8 Signs You’re A Game Denialist

1. You follow over a dozen PUAs on the internet. You know the entire product line of each, but you publically claim that all are scam artist liars. When someone posts a pirate link to one of their new 12 DVD sets, you quietly download it.

2. You are obsessed with looks. When a man claims success with women, you attribute 100% of that success to his appearance. In your world view, a good-looking guy who is deaf, blind, and mute would still get laid a lot.

3. You are obsessed with money. You think you need to be rich to get a 7, yet you spend your free time playing video games posting on hate forums instead of increasing the income that you think is so important to sexual success.

4. You offer no solutions. If you do, they’ll either be an abbreviated version of existing game advice or be just flat-out retarded. One prominent game denialist said the secret to getting laid is to take a shower and then go out and completely ignore women (he wasn’t joking). Instead of pursuing a path of self-improvement, you complain endlessly like an elderly woman.

5. Your mother had power over your dad. You’re trained to believe that only women can be empowered, not men. The best thing a guy can do is to accept that he sucks with women and get a 9-5 job to enjoy the occasional Chipotle meal with a side of guacamole.

6. You find it hard to believe that women want to have sex just for the sake of having sex. You think heavenly bodies need to be aligned for a girl to have a one-night stand or put out quickly, that she needs to go through a 100 bullet point checklist just to open her legs. I’ve seen haters who claim that one-night stands “don’t exist” and are “impossible.”

7. You believe in the myth of the good girl. You think that all the girls having sex are sluts. You think that an “honest” girl guards her pussy like a medieval sentry and only puts out for rich and good-looking guys who invest one year doing Compliment and Cuddle groundwork. You think playing the numbers game is “wrong” because it just selects for girls who want to have sex, when the entire point of game is to have sex with girls who want to have sex.

8. You have society anxiety disorder. The amount of unresolved fear has built up in you for so long that it is no longer curable by modern psychiatry. Therefore, you’re most likely a 20-something virgin. The world is a dangerous place, and those who have successfully met that danger head-on are obviously con artists or liars.

Sadly, if all game denialists died right now, neither men or women would mourn them. They provide value for neither.

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Chuck Rudd
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9. You claim that having sex with hookers is just as good as having sex with non-hookers.

Many would be aspies too
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It makes sense that many game denialists would have aspergers.

Their social senses are badly impaired. Life in general doesn’t make much sense to them, let alone interactions with the opposite sex.

Chris
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Aspergers is not the same as social anxiety, even if people with aspergers often have SA

Harris Naseem
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nope, same thing Asspie…

Little Ears
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acually it’s better, lmao loser

Samuel
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the difference between fear and faith….

living in fear is no life at all…

Bronan the Barbarian!
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You’ve actually heard someone claim that one night stands don’t exist? That’s the Nobel Prize of game denialism.

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10. Your name is Alek Novy.

11. Claim sales and marketing techniques are any different from game techniques.

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And really, why do you give a shit?

The more denialists, the more bounty.

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9. You eschew marriage because you don’t think a man with game can keep his wife happy.

Little Ears
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so how’s that marriage working out for you, cucked yet? l0l. so many dumvasses here. yes game exists and works, but some of you are just dumb LOL

Socialkenny
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Lmao the first point said it all.I credit that to the hypocrites who shit on the community yet still are heavily involved and pirating products.If onenis criticizing the community and calling all gurus scam-artists:them GTFO of the pick-up community an go wallow in some AFC’ish site where one can learn to be a wuss.

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The same guy who complains that “looks only matter” is the same guy that refuses to hit the gym or wear a suit.

Thanks for calling them out.

Anonymous
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You can’t really deny Game – It’s impossible.
Once you’ve taken the red pill, there’s really no turning back.

Mr.GM
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Brilliant.

Theodora
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On an unrelated note: I can’t wait to watch Shame.

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“occasional chipotle meal with a side of guacamole” lol so true for some dudes out there. you are too funny!

The G Manifesto
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“9-5 job to enjoy the occasional Chipotle meal with a side of guacamole.”

Yeah, you should at least be eating at authentic taco shops.

No rice in burritos. No guac on the side crap.

Straight up Carne Asada, salsa and guac in the burrito.

– MPM

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dunno, Roosh.. Big fan, but you can turn your point 6 into “you’re, well, socially awkward, if you think you need some gay-ass shit like “The Cube” to get laid. It’s more like you said yourself before, “be interesting, be cool”. And as another guy put it, “learn the basics, leave the community”

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This whole post applies perfectly to the faggots of “Pua Hate”, who call every guru a scammer yet they know the methods and such better then anyone. They offer no solutions (besides going to the gym)and they’re suspect with the homo pictures and videos they post. Yet all of them claim to be alpha and great with women, when it’s obvious their bitter and failed beta Pua’s who are salty cause they didn’t get the results or wouldn’t put in the work to get the results

Invictus III
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I think the problem with most denialists is that they haven’t even put game into practice to see it for themselves. The first time you run game from approach to same night lay and realize that you are in control of the situation, everything changes. There is no denying it after that. Now every time you sit back and watch interactions between people you can’t help but analyze and identify which game concepts are at work. The red pill analogy is the best I’ve heard so far.
Corny PUAs with their promises of “Magic Bullets” don’t really help the situation. The concepts are real but it’s just presented in a one size fits all manner that doesn’t really work for socially awkward people. This leads to frustration and denial. Hands on experience and trial and error are the best ways to learn game IMHO.

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Alek Novy is a professional cocksucker and a moron internet dweeb without a shred of masculine integrity.

Death to Alek Novy.

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10. You claim that game only works on “sluts.”

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game works and those at puahate are a bunch of aspie gremlins, but don’t fucking deny that there isn’t a shitload of lies and charlatanism in this industry/art/field/whatever

[Roosh: Just because there are charlatans in a field doesn’t mean that entire field is bunk.]

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Good post. I am dealing with a friend who has never had a girlfriend and who is 26 a lawyer, works out 6x a week, never gets laid, is 6 ft tall, and has read the Game and mystery books.

Though it is true the advice mystery is crappy. They do give denialist one good advice self improvement and approaching.

But he believes looks and money matters. So I gave up on him, which is the best thing to do. He doesn’t want it bad enough similar to the american dream.

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Game is sorta BS because the take-aways fit on a single spaced page, yet people keep spilling ink. The first third of the page is actually just “APPROACH” written in 100pt font. The spilled ink is generally entertaining, though, so people keep lapping it up.

Also, fair enough to call guys out for *obsessing* over looks and career (“money” is not the right term; chicks are looking for career and status), but they’re really, really important.

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Why do the cruder guys have this obsession with labelling stuff they don’t like “gat” homo” faggot” etc. Gay people can’t really choose to be gay as far as I can tell, so to say it like it’s something bad just makes no sense.

You are bright enough to use a computer and use the internet, you could add a few words to your vocabulariy like “flamboyant”, or tasteless– I don’t know exactly what you’re talking about because everything you don’t like from your little caveman world is “gay” etc.

Socialkenny
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@Dark Sith-Lol I totally agree with you.PUA Hate seem to know every method of pick up yet they criticize every guru around.

flyfreshandyoung
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9. You think game is a con because all it is “learning to be social”

You can be the most social person on the planet but if you have pedestalization issues, don’t know how to escalate, don’t know when or how to close, then all the sociability in the world isn’t goin to help you.

I swear the “learning to be social” hater point is the most oft repeated mantra of denialists.

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Let the flame wars begin!

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“You can be the most social person on the planet but if you have pedestalization issues, don’t know how to escalate, don’t know when or how to close, then all the sociability in the world isn’t goin to help you.”

true. some of the most sociable guys are also the biggest clowns and entertainment monkeys. they get the girls laughing along and then… nothing to show for it.

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#21 – exactly. Approach, status, attitude, few tried jokes/”routines”/negs up your sleeve, that’s it.

#24 – what’s a bigger pedestalization issue than thinking you gotta have books worth of tricks and schemes to fuck women?

Roosh, on impossible one night stands, isn’t that exactly the view of “mainstream” community? Like you need 4 hours of “comfort”, go through stages etc, and if you get laid otherwise – it’s “fools mate”. lolz. Seriously, part of the reason I read you is because Bang doesn’t have any of that crap, but practical advice instead.

#22 – that’s flamboyant =)

Game Denialist #821
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How did your dad manage to get your mom pregnant without “game”?

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On money:

You don’t need to be rich, but you do need enough to:
1) provide privacy
2) provide said privacy in a convenient location to girls
3) easy access to 24 hour transportation (usually but not always a car)
4) a good wardrobe (this is a fraction of the previous 3)

The cost of this varies widely from region to region. In NYC, it’s brutally expensive. In other parts of the country, it is realistically affordable.

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…probably you’re also as silly as some girls who claims that staying slim, keeping your hair long, using a little makeup, lipstick and perfume makes no difference to guys. All that beauty shop stuff…it’s just a myth to bilk women out of their $$$.

Game doesn’t exist? Yeah, and Bigfoot does.

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9. You claim to be against misandry, but spend 95% of your online efforts attacking Roissy and Roosh while mostly ignoring Amanda Marcotte, the Jezebelers and false rape accusers.

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What’s at least as irksome as game denialism to me is denialism of non-game aspects of attraction.

It’s reasonable to assert that you can have success with women without height, status, money, good looks, social capitol, leadership ability, and control over your environment, however the nothing except game exists denialists go much further, and say that none of these other attractive traits matters at all and that it has no value at all, and that such traits are not actually even attractive in and of themselves.

It is then when confidence becomes a religion, and the true believers self entardate.

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I don’t deny game one bit. I’ve been beat countless times by other guys who used it.

But don’t looks and money contribute to game? If you feel like a sexy bitch, and you got excess loot to spend, doesn’t that bring your confidence up enough to tease the shit out of every girl you encounter?

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Book sales down?

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Roosh..I’m not going to knock your hustle but U usually respect everyones opinion. Like an earlier poster said..doesnt some dude in denial help you score?? not that you nedd the help..this is much like someone saying religion this, religion that..dont argue with me or you are in denial!! We all can make up our minds.. Game is not eveything. Looks, Status, Money do count, it a value game fellas.

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“But don’t looks and money contribute to game? If you feel like a sexy bitch, and you got excess loot to spend, doesn’t that bring your confidence up enough to tease the shit out of every girl you encounter?”

The reason looks and money bring up confidence is because of the positive re-enforcement we receive from women for looks and money.

The reason we get positive re-enforcement from women for looks and money is because women actually find such attributes attractive.

This should be a no brainer, but instead some people ONLY allow themselves to legitimatize confidence, as the only truly existing valid attraction trigger.

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@ deepcov3r

Its called freedom of speech. All these lefty faggots talk about empowerment and can’t wait to grope each other in public on a giant flamingo float during a gay pride parade, but the minute some supposed right wing mouth breather thayss thomething offenthive, their intelligence has to be attacked and they have to be reminded what the right way to speak is?

Gimme a fucking break. The last time I checked every homo’s parents were “breeders”(is that supposed to be offensive to normal people?).

@Zorro

He also thinks that bmi is the end all be all for measuring someone’s health.

Game denialist can be easily separated into two categories, those who enjoy receiving head from men, and those who enjoy giving men head.

Audi 5000

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Name me a field that *doesn’t* have charlatans….

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9. You claim to be against misandry, but spend 95% of your online efforts attacking Roissy and Roosh while mostly ignoring Amanda Marcotte, the Jezebelers and false rape accusers.

*cough* AlekNovy *cough*

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I never knew that a virtual person whom I know purely from internet could induce in me such strong feelings of disgust and repulsion, before I stumbled on aleknovy. I see him as the absolute worst case in humanity, someone who has taken the red pill, but still wants to live by the blue pill, damn he is even more hateable than Cipher in the Matrix. I hate him more than the bully from my childhood, merely because of the twisted desinformation he persitently pukes in the net using just about every technique of a dishonest argument and faked sophist logic there is. Never could have thought it can be possible.

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I had a guy, after reading my blog, say, “This Alpha Persona appears to be a part of the ‘PUA’ community, where they believe having no less than 11 women on hand at a time will make you happy.”

I mean.. I just have to ask, do you not enjoy the prospect of having eleven different women at your beck and call?

Seriously, who would not enjoy that?

Also, I’m slightly offended that I’m only “just another PUA” blog, considering I talk about other things too lol

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Alek Novy is a funny guy. On his website he claims that Game is really about pandering to women, while also claiming that Game doesn’t work (gee, spot the contradiction in those beliefs). Among other things, he claims that it is a Game myth that women fall for jerks and suggests that men are better off simply learning more mainstream and conventional flirting techniques.

So according to Alek, Gamers are a bunch of obnoxious jerks who turn women off. But at the same time they are also a bunch of pathetic little female supplicating panderers. Good to know!

Novy is truly the master of sophistry and pseudo-intellectual bullshit.

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“Alek Novy is a funny guy. On his website he claims that Game is really about pandering to women, while also claiming that Game doesn’t work (gee, spot the contradiction in those beliefs). ”

Not really.

Game is pandering to women

Pandering to women doesn’t work

ergo

Game doesn’t work

Really now I would have thought a bunch of aspies would at least be able to figure logic out. I mean your idol Mr.Spock is all about that logic shit. The poster over your bed is very displeased.

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lol, theyre developing a video games to help girls resist sex…
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/072610ucf-developing-virtual-game-about-sex

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Anon Says:
>Game is pandering to women
>Pandering to women doesn’t work
>ergo
>Game doesn’t work
Nick S Says:

> On his website he claims that Game is
>really about pandering to women, while
>also claiming that Game doesn’t work

1) I’ve never said that game doesn’t work. What I (and most of the 8000 non-gamers) say is that it doesn’t work over *placebo*.

In other words, if you approach a 100 chicks with game, and 100 without game (and you escalate without fear and with confidence) you will get the same number for chicks.

i.e. – It’s a numbers game.

Diet Analogy: A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. Game methods are like fad diets – they trick you into *confidently escalating* the same way diets trick you into eating less cals. You get the results because of the confident escalations, not any magical ethereal “game”.

2) Of course pandering to women “works”. Most guys in relationships got them by pandering.

3) Whether you pander or not, you get the same results, so you might as well not pander…

4) I’ve praised roosh quite a few times and I’ve said he’s actually evolving away from game without even knowing it. His stuff in the past 12 months sounds a lot more like anti-game than game. He doesn’t take shit from chicks, he does numbers game, he has standards, he won’t put up with shit tests etc..

-> I wrote a post called “Roosh is Evolving”

-> Some guy on an anti-game blog just posted a comment where he linked to here, saying “man, roosh is soo anti-game, but he doesn’t even know it, he’s more like us than he is like gamers”.

Most gamers evolve out of game over years. Usually takes 3-8 years… It’s slower for people who do it for a living, coz their identity is tied into it.

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I’ve never denied it, I’ve just had too much anxiety to ever apply it to myself.

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What is funny is that this AlekNovy loser actually claims to have ‘run a game business for years’ while Ferdinand Bardamu outed him as someone who went to Ukraine and got nothing, and now hates Game.

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TwatNovy said :

His stuff in the past 12 months sounds a lot more like anti-game than game.

Oh, so your definition of Game is itself wrong, so that you can take the parts of Game that work, and call them ‘anti-Game’.

Hey! Don’t eat apples! Eat fruit instead!

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Alex, that is some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Game is not pandering… game is specifically avoiding pandering.

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Samuel,

So it seems that AlekNovy thinks :

Bad Game is ‘Game’
Good Game is ‘Anti-Game’ (and that HE came up with it and should take credit for it, even though these are things well-known on alt.seduction even 12 years ago)

So he never quite understood what Game is, and certainly has never gotten a woman.

What a loser of extreme dumbshititude.