8 Things American Women Must Do To Make Themselves More Attractive For Men

Sometimes I can be overly critical towards women, but understand that it comes from love, not hate. I want women to be the best that they can be. If American women follow the suggestions I’ve outlined for them below, they will be truly world class. Here we go…

1. Lose the god damn weight

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The easiest way for them to have value is by being thin. There is nothing more boner-killing than a girl with blobs of unnecessary tissue that serve as a visceral reminder of her weak character and laziness. Besides a minority of psychologically deficient men who have a fat fetish, the world will never come around to accepting morbidly obese body types.

2. Grow your hair to butt level

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Have you noticed that people who are ill with long-term diseases or those facing starvation don’t have a lot of hair? I surmise that hair serves as a signal to men of a woman’s fertility (the longer the better). It is an objective marker of healthfullness and beauty.

3. Talk 80% less

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American woman try to make a novel out of an anecdote. They think their day-to-day activities are interesting or noteworthy when the opposite couldn’t be more true. If they just sit still, relax, and let the man lead the interaction, they would become ten times more pleasant to spend time with. Silence should be embraced.

4. Stop ruining intimate moments

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Stop telling me “I don’t usually do this.” Stop telling me “We’re not having sex.” Stop giving ongoing commentary of my seduction moves. Stop making things awkward through nervous post-coital chatter. If you like the man you are with, let him do his thing. Stop parroting tired lines he has heard many times before.

5. Get rid of all beliefs and ideologies that enable your worst traits

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If you are faced with two belief systems, one telling you to be fat and ugly and the other telling you to be beautiful and charming, choose that one that requires more work of you, because I promise it will make you a better woman and get you a better man. Don’t succumb to the Tumblr idiots trying to convince you that fat is beautiful. Don’t listen to internet feminists telling you that your job is more important than your man. The more work you put into yourself (outside of your career and kickball club), the more value you will have.

6. Don’t use rejection as a means to boost your fragile self-esteem

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It’s fine if you don’t want to have sex with a man, but don’t use his attempt as an opportunity to feel good about yourself. Be polite, bow out of the conversation, and go on with your life. The minute you get your kicks from rejecting men is the minute you lose sight of how to build a connection with them.

7. Stop negging

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Just because you are attracted to cocky men who neg you, that doesn’t mean the technique works on men. Men prefer a feminine challenge, not a masculine jerk. You must understand that making fun of men does not increase our attraction for you. Compliment us instead, and be amazed at how much farther you get.

8. Stop self-mutilating

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You’ve got to quit with the ugly tattoos and piercings. It makes you look impulsive and unwise, not interesting or sexy. Reading a hard book will make you more of an individual that getting a colorful tattoo on your arm that a million other girls have. I would understand if you want to do strange things to stand out, but you’re simply copying the herd.

There are other things that American women can do, like improve their style, wear heels, and tone down their smartphone addiction, but I believe the eight things above would put American women above the international average.

When you look at how America came about, with its mixing of European stock, you realize that there is nothing genetically wrong with American women. It’s just the toxic environment that is degrading their genetic value and causing them to perform very poorly on the world dating scene, to the point where American men are eagerly flying to other parts of the world for better value. If American women simply make the changes I have outlined, they will increase their attractiveness and get more attention from higher quality men. If they are not willing to change, they shouldn’t complain about the OK Cupid stalkers who try to get with them. It remains to be seen if they will listen to my advice.

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thecaptainpower
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I would add one ” dont sacrifice family for career”…half of my 35 year old nyc female friends are on antidepresents with little chance of ever getting knocked up.

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Just think of it as evolution in action.

keelah
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…except evolution doesn’t exist.

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A stable society is one in which both genders are celebrated. Men do not have children, women do. As such, whilst some women should be in the workforce, more should be better mothers and wives to avoid the huge illegitimacy rates we have. Also, men do things that actually have economic value (build stuff, oil etc) and women do not do such things for the most part, and are NOT independent – they use what men have built and then have jobs that are more based in the social world. This is why we had monogamous marriage and the like, for it was the best compromise for a society to be based on, rather than everyone doing what they liked.

Men create civilizations, women (through brainwashing by banking scum) destroy them, and make us all slaves. The next decade will prove this to be true, and there aren’t enough red pill useful alpha men to go around for the women/betas/elderly we have to support – so they will find out the hard way.

thecaptainpower
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No reason to get married, if you earn too much your spouse won’t be able to apply for free benefits….Just live together and use your mother’s address so you wife and child can get free shit.

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Just ‘live together’????

Surely you are joking?? Are you aware of false DV and “RAYYYPE!” charges, not to mention the ‘givernment’s’* feminist-inspired crusade to make nearly ANY relationship with today’s toxic Modern Womyn a ‘de-facto’ marriage? With all of the benefits of divorce for her, and all of the penalties of divorce for the man? Check out your state and local laws regarding ‘common-law’ marriage, or talk with your attorney regarding the same. Or you could find out the ‘hard way’…’divorced’ and living in your car.

Nowadays, a wise man does not co-habitate, nor marry, nor father children.

* Yes, ‘givernment’ is not a misspelling, because it ‘gives’ to the protected classes, and takes from the producers and from men especially.

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I would like to ‘remove’ the comma/quote key from your keyboard do to your ‘inability’ to properly ‘use’ it.

Also, just to clarify, your current wise man…dies alone? Lives a life of misogynistic paranoia and then…dies alone? That doesn’t sound very wise to me. It sounds unhealthy, and sad, and lonely. Good luck with that.

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Hmm, No not sad and lonely at all. I get to ride my motorcycles, drink, shoot guns and come and go and do whatever the hell I please without answering to anyone. I have a few women who check on me once or twice a week sometimes a couple of them will at the same time and the best part is they leave me to my own devices until they want some more.

Don Dressel
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YOU ARE MY HERO! I AM NOT JOKING I HAVE BEEN MARRIED 3 TIMES AND ALL BITCHES! YOU THINK I WOULD HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON!

Sam
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I can see why you didn’t stay married.. lol

Don Dressel
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Thanks!

Jena Bowman
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Judging by your comment I’m sure you were no picnic to deal with all the time either

Don Dressel
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Yes I was only a faithful loving man who sold my homes so they could own a nice home
I should have expected a comment from a woman like this
Another self centered woman are you?

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A bitter narcissistic man with a victim mentality…and you’re probably impotent.

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first men are only p*ssy hounds until he has something the average cow wants to take away. Then when men find their self worth, then they’re narcissists – typical woman. There are men who’ve been married before, paid alimony, paid the ransom on their children and have dated other women after the wreckage cleared from the first marriage. The bitter human is best represented by the female specimen who’s been rejected for the disgusting cow she is.. As the typical woman, you have NOTHING to tell men who’ve been emotionally, physically and financially attacked by 3rd wave feminism

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Yeah because he has an OPINION, deal with it

kmonster
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Good one bro

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Tell that bitch to STFHU! Men everywhere need NOT listen to a woman’s contorted opinion, especially one he isn’t married to! That’s where we make our 1st mistake. Men build shiT! Women cant even produce a decent sandwich!

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😂😂😂😂😂

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another woman hater, unless it comes to getting pussy

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No, we just produce life! Like your momma did! You should thank her. I won’t!

Don Dressel
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Yes you are a typical self centered bitch from your comment???
Or just a good woman who was screwed over by self centered pricks
Yes there are men like that also but I’m not one of them

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NO, but he’s free and his own man. More men are going to go this way more and more. In fact the ONLY reason escorts are frowned upon by the average ‘cow’ is because she know’s her butt is no competition, so they throw men in jail trying to avoid alimony, child support, ugly furniture and ugly shoes at a discount store. There are enough whores out there willing to come in between a man, the ‘average’ woman’ and his wallet..

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uh ya think it might be you?

Don Dressel
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No as my sister told me my choice in women were horrible
My first ex got remarried 2 times after me and it never worked out and she tried to come back many times
My 2nd ex passed away from cancer in 89
My 3rd ex gave away a lot of money in an online romance scam
Yes my sister was right!

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1 and 3 sure but why include 2???

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Since you are the common denominator, maybe you are the one with the problem. Choose wisely

Taitafalcon
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Uh, no. He’s just defending himself; or is that NOT allowed in ‘woman land’. You’re certainly not going to respect him if he doesn’t defend himself you hypocrite…

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Sounds like you’re the problem, not the women lol

Taitafalcon
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Hmmm, let me tell you something you simple minded fool. I was married myself for 9 years – 30 years ago to 1 woman who ruined our finances and cost my $96K/year job. After $400,000 in cold cash, our 3 children, she’s now filing for bankruptcy and needs the $800 per month I lived to live without, each month besides her own job, just to make ends meet. I now have a hot girlfriend with no kids, house nor ugly furniture that I have to pay for. Women can’t see the big picture because they complicate the crap out everything…. You’re not going to convince men who’ve lived life and seen every bit of crap that women hand out… So, while we suspect you’re a stone cold idiot, it’s best to just shut up and quit confirming it…

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The only way to get a ho to shut her damn trap is to have her close her lips around “Mr binky”! Then hold her there by her ears

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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And men are stupid and won’t just take the debit card away! You got what you deserved fool.

Taitafalcon
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Mz Lisa; you do not know me at all. I did not treat my ex-wife like an infant. I divorced her instead, waiting until my youngest was now 27 years old. NO ONE deserves to be run over a financial cliff by someone they knew, loved and married. I’ve since recovered very well and enjoy a very stable and healthy financial;portfolio. Go back to your fat ass cat.

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I know you, and a million more like you. Yes, you did deserve financial ruin for the simple reason you’re blaming her! Because it was you who didn’t set your foot down and do what I said earlier-take the debit card away. Trying to Insult me with the “fat ass cat” statement just confirms you’re a loser who got exactly what he deserved.

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Hmm… let me see, according to you I should have infantilized another adult who had her own career and farmed out her motherly duties to someone else. I escaped this marriage with a divorce settlement that is the best that I’ve heard of and probably much to your disappointment, have not had to face financial ruin. Now my choice of dating obvious candidates are made of women who’ve hit the wall with no crash helmet.

On the other hand, I have the financial option to not to only survive but also thrive while living in a state that allows ‘escorts’ in any shape, color, hair style, etc. Women who hear of a man like me, get jealous and call me ‘loser’. Well, I’ll have to ‘suffer’ my loserdom with my next date… Pray for me…

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You are responsible for your own life and that includes your own money. In a perfect world, everyone would be mature and responsible with no issues. We all know that isn’t the case! Instead of blaming the woman for not being immature and irresponsible, why didn’t you try to help her? Maybe she was raised in family that was bad with money?!
You were no more mature than she was because you didn’t handle the issues in an adult fashion. You ran away, and now are bitching on an Internet forum….it doesn’t get any more immature than that.

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Lisa Ann
We”re all responsible for our own lives, including the obligations that come like the $400.000
I”ve already paid out to her $0. Women hate a man who”s psid his court aided penalties and is able to thrive. Despite your assessment of my manhood, there is nothing a hateful woman like yourself. has thst l can’t rent at anytime. You’ll
have to tr elsewhere

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“Women hate men who paid their court appointed obligations and thrive”???? No, they don’t! Those are the ones who actually get considered for a second chance! Oh and she didn’t have “0” input…. if she gave you sex once, washed a dish or cooked one meal while you were married… she earned whatever amount you paid.

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You’re defending me well. 1) i get the “look” several times a day and have politely turn them away. A little boyish charm and humor works 95% of the time the other 5% of time is accomplished with business like professionlism. Aa a man, i do not need a 2nd chance from women because i am not seeking validation ftom women. As I said, i have. 3 children 7 grandchildren anf 1ex-wife. My ex spent 100% of our marriage eorking we shared all chores and got her sex too. Nope, some horses can’t be tamed

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Not only is your comment bullshit, its off topic if it’s supposed to be a reply to my comment.
No woman check you out daily….you’re just dreaming!

Taitafalcon
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Actually, I work in casino and encounter couple hundred women per day. Some married,some single, some out the ‘girls’. Part of the job is lighthearted banter to keep the mood playful. While I entetain 1 or the other, the others are watching/listening. Our banter has a name in the business; verbal judo. I get practice everyday. As a man my instinct is to hunt. A good knows prey well

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As a man your instinct isn’t to “hunt”. It’s to survive, the same as women. If you’re classifying yourself as a “hunter”, what you’re really saying is that you are a predator and that makes you a risk to the safety of society.
In other words…you’re low class trash that doesn’t respect women.

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What i AM, is honest with nature having a societal 200,00) year headstart in the evulutionary cycle. Along with instinct comes intelllect but judging by your avatar,you and 99% of other women are more than safe as you’re no more. than “wall”casuslties. anyway. Men like me with grandchildten have no need to seek out an obligation to have half or.most of our assets forfieted by the court. We men are leaving women behind, what is hard for most women.to accept is.the realiization that we don”t need you.

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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😂😂😂😂
That answer is truly “laugh out loud” worthy! No, your not being “honest”. Your offering your limited and non literate personal opinion. Women are just fine the way they are. Men can either rise to their level(pardon the pun) or be left behind. Women win regardless.

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Lisa; I”ve had a life of adventure and service to others. What I cannot change is human evolution’s toll on women (as in your case). As a man, I can create life for 30 more years. You and your egg husks have been done for quite some time. Along with firing potent DNA, my options to continue working is excellent my ex’s option to retire 5 years before eligibility fo S/

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😂😂😂😂😂😂
You haven’t had jack shit, that’s why you’re here complaining! Evolution hasn’t effected me or any other women….adaptation has! Sadly men have not kept pace and are being left behind. For everything mentioned on this “list” the exact same thing can be said about men. Men are more pathetic today than they ever have been! In every way! It’s men who need to pick up ball and learn the new game. As for me…I been happily married for 30 years and consider myself very lucky that I met a decent man that doesn’t have all these hang ups.

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Lisa, your points are noted, that does not invalidate my life experiences, education, nor any other part of my bright future. Congratulations on Mr. Perfect. I choose to go it alone with my family. No other woman is invited

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You seem to be missing the point. Your so called life experiences are ignorant and you don’t have bright future if it includes having views like the ones published in this story! If your views are like that you are narrow minded, and extremely entitled. Believing that women need to change to meet your unrealistic standards….Which is unrealistic! Men need to work on being the best they can be…and that doesn’t mean continuing to tow this entitlement thinking, it means becoming secure enough in yourself to not feel the need to dominate females. That’s what is at the root of it, not some biological driven, genetic trait to dominate. If that were the case men would be born great leaders…we all know that is not the case!
If you continue to perpetuate this bullshit…well you seriously are going to be left behind. If that what you want, then fine. But I don’t think men want that. They do want a life where women are a part of it. It’s up to you guys to grow up now and become better men.

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Lisa, my ‘so called life ‘ os not about meeting your approval. Why can’t you get that? I simply don’t want or need a woman. I have 7 grandchildren now. Your trolling just shows who your are. I don”t have ‘catch up” to a pack tired off poon with melting faces. I can’t get away!

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It is if you’re perpetuating the ridiculous propaganda in this article. That’s a point you seem to miss. You absolutely do not have the right to continue to push bullshit like what is published in the adobe article. Not only is your life being judged me, it’s being judged by every other woman on the planet and it’s been deemed worthless.

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I repeat for the impteenth time, no woman has anything I can”t rent; you’re particularlatly slow aren’t you?

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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You are the slow one here because you trying to repackage what was said into a acceptable form.

Taitafalcon
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Hah! And yet you respond to someone you consider a fool; what does that make you!!???. You’re showing early signs of dementia…(heh)….

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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Sorry, you loose! All I did was point out the obvious….
have a nice day loser

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Oh by the way….you’re still doing it! Still making yourself look stupid by attacking me! Nothing you have said about me is remotely true….however everything I have said about you is 💯% true!😉

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Lisa; In in order for me to lose, (not loose, your grammatical error), I ‘d have to believe in the words of a bat-shit crazy old cunt like you. But since you’re bat-shit crazy I”ll put your shit in the fucked in the head column.

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😂😂😂😂😂
You just can’t help but make yourself look pathetic can you? Remember when you say shit about me, it only reflects on you, not me!
Have a nice day!

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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You just keep doing it! Making yourself look foolish…. 😂😂😂😂

Taitafalcon
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Well, Miz Kettle, meet Mr. Pot and I”ll excercise my inaliensble right of speech I’ve earned as a human being. I will also take this moment to remind you that women age like flowers and men age like trees. You too, have a nice day!. I will still pump and dump a former model and leave you to your crazy cat lady starter kit… Buh bye

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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You spelled “miss” wrong….
Asshole

Taitafalcon
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No, imbecile; it’s callef literary license in colloquialism , fool!

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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Hardly….you’re loosing the argument and because you can’t possible loose to a woman, you have to degrade her as much a possible! Remember when you use negative language towards others, it says nothing about them and everything about you.

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Really!? YOU posted that i was an a**hole and loser, though I said nothing of the kind to you. Maybe you don’t like my options that don’t include deteriorating sample of womahood. I will shag the crap out of a laid off model, that has 0 to do with a nightmare like you; because I can. That fresher poon has no entitlement to alimony, child support, long term debt. I kills that I’m happy with my life, ability to handle my obligations, etc…and free as a bird with no twisted female interference. Peace!

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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The things I said are 💯% true. The things you say are not….that’s the difference….

Taitafalcon
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Lisa, you’re an idiot. Good Bye!

Lisa Ann Lowry-Johnson
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You’re doing it again! Man you are really dense!

Taitafalcon
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One concept for delusional women, such as yourself: MGTOW. You harpies are obsolete and don’t even know it yet. Women age like milk and men age like wine. Good luck with your starter kit.

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You’re so ignorant you can’t even form a coherent sentence. Obviously the only person who is delusional here is you! In addition you’re hiding your face and not using your name.. can’t taje anyone seriously who does that.

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😂😂😂😂

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😂😂😂😂😂🎉

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Lisa, I reread this latest posting; I realize the depth of your anger and bitterness now. No life with a loving family is ‘worthless’. You are not the official spokesperson for all women everywhere. You’re just evil and ready for your crazy cat lady starter kit. Sad and pathetic…

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Men just can’t seem to help themselves can they?! You just made yourself look like an idiot. Anytime you verbally attack a woman because what she’s saying is right, all you’re doing is making yourself look like a fool! What you say is no reflection on her whatsoever!
You truly are sad and pathetic.

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The vast majority of divorces result in the man’s standard of living going up and the woman’s going down. That’s a fact. The purpose of alimony is to get the woman back to where she can make a living. The reality is that women who take time off to stay with the kids lose time in the crucial phase of developing a career. Men benefit from this arrangement too since they can focus more on work. So if you’re a man and want to protect yourself, Insist (and put it in writing) before you marry that your wife will not take any time off with the kids and then you need to step up to the plate to caretake 50% of the time.

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Marvina1: I don’t need to be told how society operates. I know how it works. How mother nature dictates the roles of men and women is also not my calling. The lesson I”ve learned, is to not ever make myself vulnerable to the female advantage in divorce.court. We come into this world alone and we’re going to leave alone.

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There’s a solution. Don’t get married and don’t interact with women socially or intimately. Then there’s no convincing needed.

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Marvina1: As you say, no convincing needed and I”m far from a ‘simple minded fool’. I got the best divorce settlemennt for a man in this system that I’ve ever heard of. I will also never get married again nor have a girlfriend more serious than a casual weekly/monthly date.

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hail to this man! I’m just now finding my place among men and have given women what they want most; more time with their ‘Mr. Binky’ or whatever who doesn’t mind their sick neurosis…

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the use of ‘ ‘ evolves just as language does,… it’s easier than italicizing when emphasis is chosen to be done

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Everyone dies alone. Its how a man lives that matters. Women do not improve a mans life anymore. They only destroy it. So yes to live for yourself without the interference and degradation of a woman’s influence is the most wise life decision a man can make. Women dont appreciate what men do for them, they expect it. Men dont need a website to tell them that women are worthless. Feminism convinced women that they should be proud of it. So they flaunt it. Well thanks for the heads up. Im going to go play video games naked with a joint hanging out of my mouth. I may order chinese. Who knows. Anything can happen. Life is good. Dont let some selfish bitch fuck it up for you. MGHOW for life.

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Most of the women nowadays unfortunately are so very Clueless And Worthless anyway. No great Loss there.

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Bitter much?

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Youre spouting absolute gospel bro. Men can have total peace instead of nonstop bitchin n moanin with her upturning your hard work for some dickwad looser the she ends up supporting. Let her GO and Live for SELF!

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I’m 61, and I was in jr. high when I noticed in the shift in women’s attitudes toward men. By the time I finished high school in 74, it was really hard to talk to girls. In college it got worse. I never married, and looking back I found many of the girls I once knew didn’t marry either. Did they end up lonely? I don’t know. Today women have so many doors open, yet we still hear so much about how oppressed they are. It’s BS.

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It seems that you were quite aware of what was good for you in life. It’s true that women have more opportunities today so many don’t need men just as men don’t need women – just individuals who rely on themselves which makes a lot of sense. The difficult part is that you miss out on having children (if that is something you wanted) or otherwise have children in unstable situations.

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Yes, don’t get involved with women. That simplifies the issue.

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Perhaps have children outside of America? The laws there are weird and obviously stacked against you. I don’t think you should go without the experience of having a child (nothing is as awesome as many men will agree with me) with a lovely women who adores you and a child/ren who you can pass on your legacy and financial gains to. Why else are you building your empire? for your coffin?

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Again dad’s quit leaving all your responsibilities on the mom so you can have good times with promiscuous sexual partners

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Nor does a wise woman. Who needs kids anyway? Or one man for that matter. If you want love, ladies, count on your girlfriends. If you want sex just ask for it. Most men will do anything that moves.

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I bet you’re a Taurus.

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That’s the problem with this country everybody is looking for a way to get a free hand out while other people have to work their asses off to support their families

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Typical woman who has not heard of alimony, child support and 1000 other detriments to men. You blame men for women can’t control nor get the govt to harass and jail for the dumb decision to throw their ankles up behind their ears to get impregnated by them, in some madonna delusion of motherhood.

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Problem is, many kids are bastards with no fathers, just live in johns with their whores.

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god, that crazy. It’s like a big slap in the face to your own mom. Mine had to deal with my father running off with another woman to another country, leaving her in a strange country with 4 kids and no money. Women and and men are the same, both work just as hard as the other and many many women have helped create the world we live in. I’d like you to look up the averages on this stuff and see what you find, and how many men now a days abandon their wife and kids. Most kids with probablams are due to father issues.

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And I’d like to know how many men leave their wives because mama closes her legs once the wedding ring is on her finger.

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I’ve been reading MMSL which is a wonderful website for men in this situation and most men have found their women open those legs again when they pretty much follow this article. Hit the gym and be attractive. Just like you guys, we are visual too. Fit bodies are sexy on men AND women.

Almost all of his readers who have followed the golden rule of getting fit, have seen their women return to being horny for their husbands (it’s fun and lovely to read the comments on their successes). What she is describing is men behaving like boys and deserting their children!

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If that was true then we wouldn’t see rich old men with hot young women. Physical attractiveness might be a tiebreaker for women, but the man’s wealth and status (i.e. his ability to support her, or the perceived benefits to her in the subsequent divorce proceeding) are far more important to women.

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Yeah, a hot young women will marry an old dude and screw her hot trainer on the side.

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agree. And as soon as she has the ring she’s thinking about the divorce and the financial windfall that awaits her. that’s why men aren’t marrying much these days.

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I agree that it’s kind of disgusting when I see old rich men with young women – the arrangement is so obvious. Who loses out? Poor men. So poor men, don’t take your frustrations out on women, take them out on rich men who perpetuate that dynamic. It’s been that way since the beginning of time. You don’t see much the combination of rich old women with young attractive men.

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There should be prenups stating expectations of marriage. The old rich men use money as the hook – they know that otherwise the young pretty women wouldn’t give them a second look. It’s obvious and implicit in such relationships.

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My father left my mom coz he had first wife ( he tricked my mom to marry him by saying he was divorced, while he was still married to another woman).
At the end, he left my mom and went back to his previous wife, leaving 2 small kids to my mom, and my mom had to work all day long to support the family. The father doesn’t even remember us. Even if he doesn’t want my mom, the kids are still his, and we have his blood. It was sad that he died last year, without even seeing her daughter (me) got married.
Shame to my mom, when she was single, she got a lot of suitors but she chose a dick like my father.

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I’m sorry that you had to live without a father – he was a coward. Don’t blame your mom – maybe she didn’t know his first wife existed. Yes there are narcissistic people who don’t really care how their actions affect others and will lie to get by and selfishly get what they want. They are cowards.

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Well if men like you were better in bed they wouldn’t do that. Men who complain they can’t get sex from their partner need to consider they might be terrible in bed. When men figure out how to do it right they tend to get it as often as they want. The constaint theme of Mgtow men not getting sex should be an indication of how useless you guys are in bed. Notice how you all have a disdain for women…..it translates into your lack of sexual ability.

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No, most women are driving the fathers away. 70 percent of all divorces are gotten by women. 68 percent of those women are remarried very soon after. A high percentage of those women then keep the children from the father.

Many “father issues” are caused by women who don’t want the those kids to attach to that father out of a power trip. You need to do some research and recalculate.

It is that simple, I see veterans in counselling sessions repeat the same story over and over. “She almost never lets me see the kids.” “She uses them for everything she can get and then keeps them from me.” I hear it in 90 percent of cases where veterans at the VA have shown up for group counselling. It is Epidemic. American women are primarily the ones doing this, not hispanic or immigrant women. Life is different in other cultures, more respect! I think this is because American women want to remain in some sort of power over the previous husband. American Divorce courts give them amazing power and destroy many good men’s lives. Courts almost never enforce a woman who breaks visitation orders or who interferes in visitations, or breaks divorce decrees.

In the end, eventually children get to know the father and learn the truth. I have seen this happen with Native American veterans and other US veterans over the years. It almost always takes until the child is 19 or older.

So, NO, most men don’t abandon, they pay for life as women systematically brainwash and separate the child.

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I’m sorry to hear about the laws in America. They suck. Children need their fathers.

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True I filed for divorce to help me cope with husband leaving. Men can go off with young girls while wives work and raise children. No I don’t want money or anything just don’t want to be so depressed. No I’m not dating. When a man leaves his wife, he leaves his family. They are one and the same. Let’s see how often he wants to see kids. He has moved out of state.

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This is absolutely true. When my Dad left my mom I was eight and we never saw him much after that. He had a whole other family and was living in the same neighborhood come to find out.

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Most women get divorces because their husbands are douchebags. Women will try and hold on to a relationship until its very last breath. So many men get in a relationship and then just stop doing the things the woman liked when they first got together. They think it’s okay to disrespect the woman, eyef** everything with a vag and two legs, stay out all night with their buds and never bother to call, etc., cheat, get porn addicted, stop listening, neglect…Remember the golden rule men: DBAD.

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Sounds like someone with a chip on her shoulder? or maybe personal experience?? Men are simple creatures. Feed us, sex us, and look good for us and we’ll do anything for you. But if you don’t take care of us we’ll find someone else who will.

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So, what is the big problem if women do the same? Including finding another man who will treat our children better? Opportunity lost is just lost.

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By my guest. But it’s doubtful you’ll be able to find a man who is truly interested in raising some other guy’s spawn – for a couple of reasons: 1 – Guys aren’t interested in playing second fiddle to your children, and that’s what happens in situations like that. 2 – There’s a justified fear that if he begins to support the child, the courts will force him to finish supporting the child if your relationship with him falls apart. What wants that ?? Guys want to create and pay for their own families.

The simple fact is that women put themselves in this position by picking the wrong man to marry and / or father her children. There are lots of perfectly fine hard-working beta males that would make great husbands and fathers, but she goes after the tingle in her V instead. You made your decision – now live with the fallout. Guys like me have money and security, and I’m not about to risk half of what I’ve acquired on a woman who can’t keep her legs together….

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Ther is no legal president that step fathers are required to provide support for step children after divorce. You are misinformed. And I don’t think their is any woman out there waiting for your pathetic ass

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you are wrong. Courts always employ the “best interest of the child” test. If the real father can’t be found, or is a deadbeat, then courts will gladly extract money from the step father for the best interest of the child. Any degree of nexus is enough. And I do have a woman. A wonderful feminine woman who enjoys being a woman and enjoys treating her man like a man. Sound strange to you? Probably – because she is not a western woman. Western women want to be the man in the relationship and they take a certain pleasure in emasculating their men. I’ll pass on western women (just like so many other men are doing these days). I already have a penis. I don’t need a woman who envies that fact or wants one of her own…..

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You are just threatened by independent women. It doesn’t preclude her form being feminine. I don’t get sites like this. There’s lots of complaining about alimony here – yet the men want women to center their lives around men. In order to NOT pay alimony, you should WANT an independent woman.

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Legal president? What’s that??

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I think you meant ‘precedent’ not ‘president’

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Autocorrect …yes that was what I meant to write.

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My sister’s husband pays child support to his ex for two girls that are not his own. That is the law in Canada.

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Caroline it’s precedent–do some research on child support and family law.

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Best thing to protect yourself is to not get involved with women. I don’t think anyone will argue with you about that.

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This is quite offensive. Yes, there ARE men who feel honored to raise children, even if they are not blood related. Ever heard about adoption? Why do so many men adopt? Because they want to have a positive impact on young lives – not everything is about money. Actually what happens more (than being forced to pay for the children) is that men find it traumatic when the relationship falls apart and they no longer have access to those children. Now that’s unfair and one reason why men adopt these children. Not everyone sees children as burdens! Many see them as gifts.

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The big difference is that single mothers are feeding the prison growth industry. Children with no or almost no father constitute the great majority of prison inmates. A mediocre father is a far sight better than no father.
No, your boyfriend who replaced your children’s father isn’t their father because they and he know that he isn’t.

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The problem is; the nature of women – women are illogical and are always looking for something better to monkey branch onto except she has an unfair advantage thru a rigged court system that ruins men’s lives, all they’ve worked for including their freedom. I was personally sexually assaulted by a very intoxicated woman at the casino that I work at. Had I even said anything offensive to her for any reason – losing my job would only be the beginning of the sh*t I would been subject to. had to take my private parts out of her hands, nicely and put her drunk *ss in the pickup car that came for her. That’s the problem with women ‘doing the same thing’… We men don’t have the same protections. Opportunity lost to stay free by no longer putting up with women is opportunity lost. Men will get laid by a professional and leave the pudgy amateurs alone

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There’s a solution to that – don’t work at the casino. Women who work at the casino get accosted by drunk men more often I would guess

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Yes but that doesn’t include caring for the children or the home. So no men won’t do anything for their women. When people marry the man increases his house work by a few hours a week while women’s attention to the home goes up about 15 hours a week even while they are both working the same number of hours. Men want to be cared for like children. That is what you are saying John. Just be perfect and care for me totally while somehow looking fabulous and I won’t complain. Stop demanding to be cared for like a five year old and maybe your woman would have time for the gym. No men aren’t supporting women the same way men are supported by their women. Feel free to take your immature ass to the next woman willing to coddle you.

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After battling with dragons all day making a living, men don’t want to come home to their castles only to be confronted by a dragon when the drawbridge comes down and the gate opens.
Although that might be somewhat better than seeing that the wife’s facebook friends are more important to her than he.

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In my home I do the majority of the housework and all of the cooking and I am happy to for all my husband does for me. He pays for us to travel, go to dinner and he handles yard work and repairs. I also work. If it wasn’t as equitable, if he chose not to pick up after himself or to wash his own drawers, it would be incumbent upon him to pay for help. No man can expect a woman who works to run herself ragged caring for his home, kids and have time to look fabulous. That’s unrealistic bullshit.

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You know the solution? Marry or partner with a woman who is also battling with dragons all day making a living too. Don’t compromise! Choose well! You are the ones who chose those women. Make sure that she battles more dragons than you do so that you won’t feel that she is doing less.

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Those stats don’t take into consideration the work men do in the yard or home repairs and they are skewed because women who stay at home with the children do more housework because that’s there job if the husband brings home the money.

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That’s bullshit and doesn’t stop his wandering eyes and where the eye goes the dick follows. Men are selfish with short attention spans and are happy to have more than one chick cooking, cleaning and other things. Get real. We’re interchangeable to most men.

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There’s an easy way to stop a man from wandering: make his time with you better than ever. Feed him – sex him whenever he wants – and respect his position as leader of the relationship and he’ll want only you, love only you, and respect only you. And be serious: celebrate your position as the feminine half of the relationship! But feminism has taught too many women that acting like a woman is not acceptable anymore. You want to be like a man. And most men refuse to act like women (and the guys that do act like women are not attractive to women anyway). Men have lost their identity as men. We no longer celebrate masculinity in the US. In fact, women, and the manginas who control government, are doing everything they can to extinguish masculinity because it’s a threat to feminism. With dwindling possibilities of successful long-term relationships (along with the stark knowledge that a failed relationship will almost certainly involve financial and emotional devastation for him), men are retreating. Hence the explosion of the PUA phenomenon (i.e. using women only for physical pleasure with no emotional involvement at all), marriages to foreign brides (since there is a higher probability of success), and the MGTOW phenomena (avoiding relationships altogether). Men are on the defense, and it’s all women’s fault. I’ll say it again: want your men back? Then start acting like women again….

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I do all that and more but so do other women I know and their guy still cheats. Ultimately cheaters cheat because that’s how they roll… male and female alike. There is no remedy to what is essentially a character issue…

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Of course there are some guys who will cheat despite a woman’s best efforts. But the vast majority of men will respond positively if a woman simply acts like a woman. You picked the wrong guy. It happens…

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It’s hilarious that you can nonchalantly say ‘it happens’ and a woman just picked the wrong guy, after she’s screwed over by the guy that she’s treated like a king, but you cannot see how hypocritical it is when you also claim that most women are the ones that are not feminine and screwing men over. It’s very easy for you to generalize when the woman does wrong, but a guy being an asshole is an individual incident and also apparently the woman’s fault because she picked the wrong guy.
In fact, all these women that men are complaining about, that apparently screwed them over, I cannot even begin to imagine how many of them overlooked her character flaws all because she was hot as sin, while passing over the nice, feminine girls because they weren’t as attractive (and I don’t mean fat or ugly, just not as hot). I’m willing to bet that a lot of them picked wrong, suffered the consequences after they married her and then run to forums and blogs like these to bitch and whine about how women are so terrible and how feminism has ruined everything for them. If you erred and picked a low quality woman, don’t complain when you end up with half your money gone and your life turned upside down.

Your assertion that the vast majority of men would respond positively when they have women that are feminine, kind, caring and treat them like kings, cracked me up. I don’t know whether you’re wearing rose-colored glasses or you’ve just refused to face reality. Men screwing over their faithful woman is still at an alarming rate. I have way too many female friends that come crying after they’ve given their all to some man, only to have him chasing after some hot young thing after she’s had children and kept herself well for him to the best of her ability. These women have put everything into their marriages; food, sex, love, respect and at the end of the day, they’re left as crying messes that have no idea what to do next.

If you’ve decided to live in ignorance, that’s fine, but don’t come on here and defend the unwavering integrity of most men and ignore the fact that they’ve played a significant part in the resultant dysfunctional relationships and marriages we see today.

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Your argument would make sense (and your assertion about hypocrisy might be actionable) if men had a voice in the mating game. But they don’t. Ever since the dawn of time, in every species where the male is the bigger and stronger member, the male brings resources and protection to the relationship, while the female brings the babies and sexual access for the male. The male always has the greater power in the established relationship because he assumes the greatest responsibility. The female is supposed to defer to her mate’s decisions, because he is responsible for his family. Whoever has the power must assume the responsibility. The female, however, has always had the greatest power of all: she gets to choose the male who will lead her. Since this decision is hers alone, she must assume responsibility for this decision if it turns out to be bad.

The system has worked well for millions of years. But feminism has distorted the balance for humans. Men no longer have power to run their families, yet they still retain all the responsibility (this usually means the man becomes a wage slave to his wife, gets screwed in the divorce courts, etc.). That’s why there is a man deficit and a reluctance for men to “man up” and marry. Women no longer have to provide sexual access to their men, but they now have all the power. They don’t need to be protected (we have laws and police to do that) and they often don’t need a man’s resources to survive (They can support themselves, or they can have the government support them or engage in forced servitude against a man – alimony, etc.). A society cannot last long if it separates power from responsibility.

But the basic tenet of human attraction remains: women are interested in a man’s resources (money) while men are interested in a woman’s physical beauty and her ability to have his baby. A man who can maximize his resources does well with women, while a “hot” women does well with men. And since only women decide who they will mate with, it’s no surprise that the hot women get the most sex (but only from the good looking guys, the guys who can provide a tingle to the V, or guys with lots of money). But women are hypergamous – they always want to trade up. And our gynocentric society lets them do it. The two biggest mistakes that our society made was to give women the vote and approve no-fault divorce. The genie is out of the bottle and I’m not sure it will ever return. There is no longer any restraint on women’s hypergamy. For this reason, a woman is free to copulate with any guy she wants. But she will not have sex with any guy unless he can provide her with something that the previous guy couldn’t. She knows she will never have to depend on a man for survival.

Advanced cultures are in trouble because of feminism. If you look at maps of fertility throughout the world, you will find that fertility is highest among cultures that do not give women any power or rights, while “modern” societies have fertility rates that do not ensure replacement. It’s nature’s way of eliminating unsuccessful societies. I’m afraid that’s what is going to happen in any country that gives women too many rights. It’s already happening here; if you take out the immigration factor, the US population is decreasing for the first time in history.

Young women control the sexual marketplace. But they don’t understand the responsibility they have. I’ll say it again: whatever happens is on them. Your friends that are nice and feminine get passed over? They are trying to attract a man who is out of their league. The low quality woman who is going to take a guy’s resources? That used to happen a lot, but men are wising up. These days, she is more likely to end up as a 40-year-old, used up pump and dump receptacle, wondering why she can’t find a man to marry her.

The best option for women is to marry young when they are most attractive. Then work hard at the marriage by acting like a woman: keeping herself beautiful, deferring to her husband’s decisions, taking care of the house and the babies, and putting out for her husband whenever he wants (which will be all the time if she’s doing it right). I agree that, in some cases, the man will still stray – but if he does, it’s because she chose the wrong man or she is not acting like a woman. It happens, and the failure is always on her …….

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Your logic is all over the place.

Initially, you state that women have the most responsibility and should bare the consequences because she decides what male she wants to commit to. And then in the latter paragraphs, you state that men are reluctant to ‘man up’ and marry because of how unfair the divorce laws are towards then, thereby implying that men have now become the ‘commitment gatekeepers’. So, which is it? If we’re to follow your assertion that whoever has the power should bare the responsibility, it would follow that since men have now assumed the power of choosing who to commit to, they would now bare the responsibility of ensuring that that marriage has a high chance of success by selecting high quality, just as women did back when they had the power.

Also, the nice and feminine girls aren’t the ones actively trying to get guys out of their league. They still get great men because the few wise guys know the value of such girls. But the fact remains that some of the other foolish men willingly, with their own two legs, enter relationships with bat-shit crazy girls because they’re hot and then after those girls screw them over, they come to blogs like these to whine about how all women are bitches, when they’ve only given their attention to a select few. Men have now become the commitment gatekeepers, and no one forced them to enter relationships with or marry low quality women. If a man compromises good character in favor of hotness, then he’s more than welcome to enjoy the resultant misery.

I find it interesting that you can so readily condemn women that act on their hypergamous instincts by favoring good looking, successful and confident guys over more stable, responsible ones, but not condemn men that act on their visual instincts by favoring hotness over good character. Both are just two sides of the same coin. There’s nothing wrong with those instincts; they help us find the best possible mates. But when either gender follows their biological instincts at the expense of good character, that’s when shit inevitably hits the fan.

“But women are hypergamous – they always want to trade up. And our gynocentric society lets them do it. …There is no longer any restraint on women’s hypergamy. For this reason, a woman is free to copulate with any guy she wants.”

And this statement right here shows how one-sided your views, and that of many men here, essentially are. In the same way that women are instinctively hypergamous, men are instinctively polygamous and crave variety. People in committed relationships give up the right to follow these instincts; the wife reins in her hypergamy and stays with her man, and the husband suppresses his polygamous desires to stick to his woman. At least that’s how it should be. As much as you believe our society now provides little to no restraint for a woman’s hypergamy, whether or not you admit it, our society also doesn’t provide much restraint for a man’s desire for variety. Feminists have tried to shame men for this craving for variety by attacking male sexuality, but the rate of male infidelity hasn’t significantly decreased over the years. The only change is that female infidelity is also rising (due to her innate hypergamy and yes, feminism), but male infidelity is also still prevalent. A low quality woman with no integrity or sense of loyalty can trade up for a more successful mate, just as a low quality man with no sense of loyalty or integrity can cheat on his wife, essentially ruining the marriage all the same. You might think that society, to an extent, allows free reign for women on this, but it does too for men and you cannot readily accept one without acknowledging the other.

Also, I don’t think you’ve realized the variability when it comes to women older than 35 attracting good men. Especially in this culture where the thirst for female comfort and sex is still high, a woman that is 35 or 40 can attract a number of men. Sure, not as many as she could when she was younger and obviously it would be mostly men older her, which women of all ages tend to prefer anyway. As long as she can still maintain her figure and with the prevalence of high quality cosmetics and ‘age-defying’ products, these women that a lot of you assume have hit the wall, are still pretty viable. She’s not as fertile, so she would probably attract divorced men that already have kids. One of Roosh’s posts actually talks about this; about ‘the wall’ being softer than we’ve all assumed. She still has the attention of men that want to commit (most likely betas or older alphas), and a lot of these women will agree to them not necessarily for survival or for the ‘tingle’ but for companionship. She would still have these options especially if she’s still relatively attractive compared to her peers. I know this is a tall order for American women, where the obesity epidemic is still very rampant, but there’s no greater motivation for weight loss than loneliness and increasing competition as a woman gets older. Older women in places like California are a prime example of this. A lot of them in the 35-45 age range still look pretty good.

Finally, majority of men are obviously not ‘wising up’ (the ‘manosphere’ has been going on for what now? 10 years?). Some may be, but a lot of men are still going after low quality women and consequently getting screwed by them, otherwise blogs such as these would cease to exist. I agree that the best time for a woman to marry is when she’s young but it doesn’t change the fact that in our world today, men have now assumed the power for deciding commitment and should therefore (following your logic) bare the responsibility if/when things go sour. Frankly, I think both parties should definitely share the blame and the consequences because technically they chose each other, but if we’re strictly going by your power vs responsibility principle, then it’s clear who should take the responsibility.

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Your first paragraph misstates my assertions. My whole point is that men are refusing to commit. This is not being a gatekeeper; this is leaving the game entirely. Any man who chooses to enter the minefield known as marriage by desiring to make a commitment still has to “prove himself” to a woman; still has to be chosen by that woman. the only difference now is that since many men are finally realizing that they have no power, they are refusing to accept the responsibility.

I agree with most of your second paragraph. There are men who migrate to “bat-shit crazy” girls, only because they are hot. But I submit that those numbers of men are declining every year. They will happily screw these girls, but they will be very careful with their seed (so as to not be tagged with 18 years of child support) and they will – in greater numbers every year – refuse to marry them. I absolutely agree that if a man compromises good character in favor of hotness, then he deserves what he gets.

With respect to your third paragraph, I agree that the attraction instincts for women and men are necessary to find the best possible mates. But there has been a serious change in the time-tested balance, and that is the element of support. In the past, women depended on their man to support and protect them. Naturally, this meant that there was some risk to the woman if she decided she wanted another man. But this risk is not present in society today. I have no problem if a woman wants to engage her hypergamous instincts, as long as she is willing to pay for it if she makes the wrong decision. But she doesn’t pay; men pay in the vast majority of cases (she knows she can depend on the state to support her and her kids through a social program primarily financed with the taxes men pay, or she frivorces the guy and leverages the power of the state to extract money from the guy in the form of alimony). I also agree that men are polygamous. But if a man makes a mistake, he pays dearly (sometimes for the rest of his life). Women should be responsible for their mistakes too.

If every 35 or 40 year old woman could attract a mate, we wouldn’t be hearing about the “man shortage” or the”man deficit” or “where have all the good men gone?”. Younger, hotter girls never complain; it’s only the women who have hit the wall. I agree that lots of these women look good, but lots more don’t. And many have the bad attitude too (they lament about their appearance, or talk relentlessly about what “that bastard” did to them). That, coupled with the ability of older men to screw younger women today (one of the few benefits of feminism, more sex for older guys with no strings attached) makes the future for older women bleak indeed. Just look at online dating: sites that feature older women have almost no men on them at all. Guys today would rather be alone than couple with an older, used up pump and dump receptacle who has already destroyed at least one man in her past.

Your last paragraph would make a lot of sense if you changed the topic sentence to – … men have now assumed the power for deciding not to commit…. – and framed the rest of your argument in support of that statement. Feminism has come a long way, but it’s doubtful that we will ever get to the point where government will force guys to get married (But I won’t rule out a bachelor tax or some other form of financial inducement).

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I think that’s the difference between asian men andwestern men. Asian men ( like my father) are pathetic and don’t stop looking for other women while their wives do the best ( feed him, sex him, take care of children while looking beautiful). While western men are more laid back and satisfied if the 3 needs are fulfilled ( food, sex, be like a lady). maybe it’s just stereotype, but I find it true.
I am married to a French man ( only 5 weeks of marriage) and he is always happy if I make him nice foods ( he doesn’t like junk foods too much), be sexy and have sex with him anytime he wants, and can engage in intelligent conversations with him.
I just try not to be too naive… there are plenty of girls outthere who want him, even going directly at front of me.
But I am the “madame de la maison”. No matter how much he flirts with other girls, I should be his priority and I hold the legal status. The mistresses should wait until he fulfills all the attentions I want.
Maybe that’s how I drive him closer to me, coz I don’t confront the flirting

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Then choose THAT kind of woman. But don’t complain about having to pay alimony if the marriage fails because she made you and the children the center of her life. Some men like having women who serve them, and some men like women who are their intellectual equals and have their own work and interests. You just have to make the right choice for you. I wouldn’t expect a man to do the yard work since I am also capable of doing it. Some men wouldn’t want that, but I would choose a man who would be fine with it. It doesn’t make me less feminine although you may disagree with that. Being capable is not not anti-feminine. Some men find strong independent women attractive. You don’t, which is fine – just make sure you choose the right woman.

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Strong independent women are not feminine. It goes against millions of years of biological coding for both men and women. It can be tolerated. But women aren’t happy and fulfilled behaving like that and, deep down, it is revolting and disgusting to men too. Enjoy the facade for as long as it lasts. But don’t be surprised later in life when you’re not truly happy, can’t hold on to a man, and resort to gobbling anti-depressant medication – just like 60-70 of all other women in the US.

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Luckily there is a variety of women and men in this country and the world. YOU can choose a dependent woman – some women like to be that so it can work for you both. Some men like independent women, so that works for them. Leave those “revolting” women for those men. Some women like the traditional, what you describe as alpha males, but some women are turned off by that. Some men want to be mothered and babied, and lucky for them there are women who like that role. Some women are looking for daddy and there are plenty of men who feel good in that role. It’s a free country – you get to decide. So what is key is that you choose wisely. I don’t understand why it bothers you so much that others have different preferences. In what way does it impact your life? And as you write, older women are washed up and don’t rule the sexual marketplace. So what? Women who only relied on their looks may suffer from that but women who had other pursuits that were not just about snagging a man can be quite fulfilled. It all depends what you define as happiness. For you sexual happiness may be the most important, for others, it may be their work, their religion, their family, their causes, etc. Who says you get to define what is “truly happy” for others? Not everyone looks at their worth in life as their marketability in the sexual sphere. Men also take antidepressants (and others should since suicide rates are highest for men). I think you have such a negative view about women because you were burned somehow. Go find someone who is totally dependent on you if that makes you feel like a man (and find them in other countries if you want to – that’s your prerogative). There are billions of people on the planet and interestingly each person can usually find a mate if they want one.

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It’s the wanting to be cared for as much as a child that exhausts women. When women marry they assume a huge percentage of care for the husband. On average her household chores triple as she assumed the care and feeding of a grown man. They have actually studied this. So in reality it’s feed men, do their laundry, pick up after them, run their clothes to the dry cleaner, do all the housework he used to do for himself and now expects you to do to the tune of a tripling of our previous housework…..and stay sexy for you and have our exhausted selves sleep with you. Do your own damn dishes and laundry and watch the kids so she can go to the gym and you would get more of what you want. Women divorce because they are exhausted of caring for you. When women divorce even though there is one less pair of hands to potentially help around the house women enjoy less housework becaue they don’t have to care for a grown man who acts like a helpless infant.

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John 03063; her comments are just examples of ‘transferrance’. Men do what they do because they can’t depend on women to give them what they need. The formula you’ve laid out is not hard – it ain’t rocket science. Most women have something extremely charming about them if they let it out. In my 30+ years of bachelorhood, I’ve only seen one truly unattractive woman and even she had a very nice set of hands.

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That is a selfish outlook since the casualties are the children

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Because you American women are useless!!!

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Yes so please leave us all alone. We don’t want or need you .

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applause applause.

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You’re fucking useless, buddy. Without women, there would be NO reproduction. Without women, your dumb ass wouldn’t even have had the chance to post your bullshit on this RIDICULOUS page.

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Have you considered the implications that in no more than ten years, there will be no need for women. Eggs will be a market commodity, in oversupply, and men will donate their own sperm to the gestation labs. The subsequent fertilized egg will grow to term and be decanted. What was once fiction will be commonplace fact.

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WTF is the egg going to gestate in? How will it be nourished? This is what women provide. It’s a lot easier to extract sperm than to create a functional womb.

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Well it’s already the case that women don’t need men – if they are self-sufficient and want to have kids, they can go to a sperm bank. Men still need women to make their babies so that frustrates a lot of men. Maybe gestation labs will be good, but then the men will have to raise those kids!

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You are not a female, only a man with breasts.
Go away, or we will taunt you again.

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Please stay far far away from American women.

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They’re the Worst of all since they cause Most Divorces these days too.

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Most of them nowadays really are.

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As he evidence presented here, repeatedly, shows, and as we seen in the cultultresmog and divorce courts, what you say – is not so.

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Your argument would imply that most men who marry are ‘douchebags’. What is your evidence for that?

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I know someone who found out about their dad later on and found out the truth. And it is the same story.

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Men who want to see their children generally can. The courts allow for visitation and if a man is being prevented it isn’t because the woman is preventing it, it’s because she has proven in court that his access is to be restricted. Women don’t just have the ability to disregard court orders. Men have legal rights and if they aren’t taking advantage of them then that’s their fault. Quit whining. Stop playing the victim role men. I hear men whine about not getting their kids but not putting forth any effort to do so.

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The courts decide how often a man can see his kids and the fact that most women get primary physical custody is sometimes used by bitter men to complain that they can’t see them. Most dads have the option of seeing their kids several times a week but chose to see them less. If the courts have restricted visitation then there is often a reason. I’ve heard dads say they are restricted to twice a month when in reality they get every other full weekend and visits during the week as well. That’s a pretty standard formula arrangement. If there is deviation from that it’s generally due to the man’s fitness to care for the kid.

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This is exactly how it is! Who’s getting the divorce? Women
Whose getting paid? Women.
Who’s blockading the kids? Women. Who’s denying the sex? Women. Who’s taking any blame? It damn sure isn’t the Women!

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Using the same logic as much of this site, maybe you should work harder for the marriage so that she wouldn’t divorce you. Most people who get married have the intention to stay married, however, some go into marriage with magical thinking that everything will always be exciting. Some serious growing up is needed.

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you are right Richard–nearly all divorce cases I dealt with were filed by women. Children today are lucky if they have parents who last 20 yrs. together.

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Some women are exceptions, there are always exceptions.

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wow. some woman reeeeaaally screwed your head up.

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Yes but I’ve met a great one who was screwed over by her ex

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We want real men back, men who loved us, men who protected us not men who are obviously really screwed up with strange conspiracy theories.

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Want real men back? then act like a real woman! You can start by protesting against the women friendly lawmakers, and the pro-women family courts. How about abolishing no-fault divorce? What about expressing your outrage at the college communities – places where one false allegation of rape can ruin a man’s life and earning potential for the rest of his life? Why is it that we have a federal “violence against women” act, when men are victims of violence too? Or maybe you are interested in exposing the inequity in federal medical research; more dollars are spent on women’s issues, when men have the shorter lifespan? The list goes on and on – and none of what I say are conspiracies; they are fact.
As soon as women begin acting reasonable, men will act reasonable too…

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John I’ve read quite abit the laws over there and they do, infact, seem very unreasonable on the American man. I can see and agree with your fight there but as an Australian I don’t think I have much say in protesting from another country.

I’m all for 50/50 shared custody for children as they need the support from both parents (and not just the money from dad).

To my knowledge, we don’t have alimony here in Australia. If a couple divorces without kids, you simply go back to your previous ways of living.

We also have 50/50 custody with the children. Many of us women are earning more than men so in my situation I have to pay the father of my children a significant amount of money and if he chose to sit on his bottom all day and watch TV, I have no say in the matter. It’s not man/woman thing, it’s a higher/lower income earner issue.

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Thanks for the insight! It’s nice to hear from a foreign woman looking from outside the US borders. I like a lot of your country’s thoughts. Since women are now fully able to support themselves (they make up the majority of college admissions, and female participation in the workforce has never been higher) there is no need for alimony. Get rid if it. And if 50/50 shared custody and 50/50 financial responsibility for children was the norm, then much of my anger against the system here in the states would vanish. But feminists in the country will never let it happen. And you’re right – there is a problem when the woman earns more than the man…Not so surprisingly, the female friendly courts in this country often do not consider that fact when awarding alimony or property division. It’s so unfair!

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actually, i suspect it’s worse in ozzieland than in the USA. Too many liberal dipshits as far as i can tell and the men are emasculated, i guess croc dundee was a myth

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It seems life balances itself somehow. In my observation, men don’t want relationships in their earlier years and women do. Later down the line, women’s estrogen drops and therefore there testosterone is higher and once they have had their children they seem more interested in being single and experiencing life.

I don’t think our laws are as tough as yours. Sounds like men get the wrong end of the stick in the USA.

You are right on one count, I’ve never met a croc dundee but I live in the city. I’m sure they are out there in Darwin.

I happy with my Ozzie man, he is big, strong and protects me. I provide more financially than he does but he is ALL effin man. Dominant and Sexy as fuck. I feel sorry for my sisters and friends though as he is rare. Most men I see are babies, play video games, wont listen when a woman complains they are not happy and then when she leaves him, he cries into his pillow at night and asks “why me”.

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I was dating an aussie guy once – big and manly! loved it, because men like that are a rare find in India smile so I know exactly what you mean!

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“…Later down the line, women’s estrogen drops and therefore their testosterone is higher…”
Past menopause, women’s androgens are higher in proportion to their estrogen but both men’s and women’s sex hormones drop with age.

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What you describe in your last paragraph is alimony (that you would have to pay the father of your children). Alimony works both ways and it also happens in the U.S.

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We call it child support as it wouldn’t exist if no children were involved. Also, it wouldn’t exist if he gave up his 50% care for the children in my hypothetical example.

What we do is divi up the assets so in my case he may get 50% of the house I paid for.

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Women by and large don’t make false rape allegations. Why would she do that when the system is hostile against rape victims? Did you know someone in the USA is raped EVERY TWO MINUTES. Most of those someones are women, typically really young women. Not to mention most domestic violence is against women. That is why, my friend, there is a violence against women act. It is needed. Women are in the subordinate position in this country and on the Earth and most of the violence perpetrated against women is done by males. Every two minutes. Think about the implications of that. Most of the time women are too afraid to even report on the violence, so the idea that there are these false allegations floating about is ri-goddamn-diculous.

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tell that to the four guys whose lives were ruined because of the Duke Lacrosse rape case. Or the wife in Florida who faked her own domestic attack (complete with a bruised face because she got a friend to punch her) in order to get an eviction notice against her husband. Or maybe you could talk to TechCrunch owner Mike Arrington. He’s been fighting a false rape allegation for over a year. He had to sue the accuser for libel and defamation in order to get her to shut up. Should I continue??

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Yes, those were injustices, but the vast majority of rapes against women are unreported. Not even on the same scale. You cherry-pick a few cases but look at the sheer number of sexual assaults by prominent men in the news now (I realize this is an old thread)

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I can’t listen to the argument about sexual assaults against women being unreported. Women want to be equal – so report! If you don’t report it when it happens then I have to surmise that it did not happen – It’s the same analysis I used when something bad happens to a man. Or are you saying the women really are not equal in the US ????

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There is no argument about sexual assaults being unreported – it’s a fact (not really up for debate). I don’t know the stats, but I would guess that young women (rather than older women) are targeted more and because of their age, are in positions of less power…so it’s more difficult to bring charges against someone who is a boss, coach, etc. Look at Nassar who assaulted teenage girls. Why didn’t they speak up? 150 of them? Because they felt powerless in the system (besides Nassar, the whole structure intimidated them.) And this isn’t just about women – men and boys who have less power also become victimized. The reasons why women don’t report are many – even when shown to be true, the consequences have often been mild for the assaulters, the power structure is often where women will pay the consequences for speaking up (only recently has this injustice been brought to attention where men are facing consequences). Assaulters pick their victims carefully – look at Matt Lauer – he didn’t target his co-hosts or anyone close to being a co-equal, but rather the young powerless women at work. It is predatory. Women in that position look at the reality – who is more expendable in that situation? Her or Matt Lauer? It’s usually her. I suspect if it were only one woman who came forward, then NBC would have kept him, although he is such a public figure that he may have been too big a liability to keep. But it’s more onerous in other industries where the men in power positions can get away with this. I AM saying that women really are not equal in the U.S. (do you really think they are?) How does it make sense that women make 20% less for the SAME job?

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Every victim of a crime feels powerless! And most criminals choose their victims carefully; they want maximum return for minimum risk – no matter what the crime is. I don’t buy it for a second.

20% less for the same job? Do we really have to go there again? The labor marketplace is the great equalizer, and it doesn’t much care about political correctness or people’s perceptions; it cares only about profits. Women are paid less than men because they are less valuable employees; they do not work as hard, they take more family and sick time off, and they often interrupt their careers or leave their careers early because of their children.

If women are truly underpaid relative to the product they produce, then the best business move a company could make is to hire only women. Profits would go through the roof. But we don’t see it happening. Why not ?

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Women are subordinate to men by nature (biology).
If you will do a little research on male abuse of women in the recent past, you will see that wifebeaters (what men who abused women were called a few decades ago) were treated very harshly. The whipping post was not abolished in the USA until the 1950s.
It was women, feminists, who got the whipping post abolished.

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I’m sorry that you were born in the wrong century. You really don’t want to live in modern times. There are other cultures/countries that would be more suitable for you.

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So it seems that you are acknowledging that my statements are true about living in “modern times”. Thanks for agreeing with me !

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Its entirely womens fault these are not conspiracies western women have no idea how men feel about the unfair position they have ben placed in and are now paying the price.Men are simply losing interest in women relationships its just lose lose lose for the man you have to make all the effort to get what the rawest deal of the century.Most are prefering to be single and use utube porn instead to get sexual relief.Bye Bye female power !!!

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Jojoe, men have always been uninterested in commitment. Their testosterone makes them seek variety and novelty in women. Since women started having casual sex, there is no need for men to settle down anymore for regular great sex.

Once upon a time men would work hard for a woman because free sex was UNavailable. That’s how we said goodbye to female power.

If we hold off giving you men sex, we can stop wars happening. We don’t realise how powerful we really are.

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then perhaps you should learn to seperate the good from the bad. I have been mistreated repeatedly by men, with them later in life trying to force themselves back into my life with apologies and old memories completely ignoring the fact they cheated without cause. I have always treated my men like kings in public and like naughty boys in the bedroom as to me sexuality is very spiritual and there is no shame. Even with these apologies I forgive but refuse to have these men apart of my life. Cheating and lying are the two greatest sins in my book and immediately closes the door between us.

Until then, I treat my man like a king, I support and honor him. I never went for Mr. popularity even though I was. I knew the game, changed the rules found that sweet shy guy in the back. one with the nice crooked smile, the sensitive one. But because I was Miss Popular.. they got socially accepted from being rejects and would mistreat me with their new found fame. You would think the sensitive guy who sits in the back has no friends wouldn’t be like that. But they are.

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Awwww poor baby. Yes please develope a good relationship with porn and stay away from women. We are fine without you.

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So start acting like real women (see your grandmother for advice and tips) and you’ll start to see the rise of real men.

All of you women complain about chivalry being dead and no gentlemen…where the hell are the ladies?

Feminism has really created a toxic environment for women and now they are starting to see the results.

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These women I refer to (sisters and friends) do infact act like real women. They generally love my big teddy bear and make a fuss about him and want to clone him.

You should probably read my comment before responding….you sound a little cranky Driver.

I consider myself a Feminist and yet act very feminine (as do all my friends and sisters). We all love and I spoil my man (feel free to be jealous).

I’m usually the one applying makeup to my grandmother and telling her to wear something a little more fitting lol. If I took her advice I’d be screaming obscenities at my man. Careful of the advice you give hehehe smile

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ok, so when you say you hate feminists – its more femi-nazi philosophy you’re after, I hope. Feminism is still very relevant in 3rd world countries. The rest – yes, I agree, real women and dwindling, but so are men, and that’s where I feel its not about being a man/woman after all. What’s you’re definition of a real lady?

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Feminism is a plague and the rest of the world should learn from our mistake (in the west). When you keeping giving and giving, then they (women) keep taking and taking….but the complaining (and victimization) never stops.

We’ve had quite a bit of progress over the last 3 to 4 decades on many fronts (with women)…yet you wouldn’t know it listening to women, today, in western societies. They still have everyone believing that they are in chains (first world problems). They want selective equality…not true equality.

They want men to hold up their end of the bargain while they pick and choose which ones they’ll uphold. It’s nonsense and more people need to call them out on it.

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It’s not a conspiracy if some one is actually planning to harm you. To deny that Feminism is attempting to do to women what Communism did to workers and peasants, is to ignore the unambiguous statements of Firestone, Friedan, and Steinemm. These marcist-leninisst started the war to create a vanguard party and obtain power. With it, they have taken over the Women’s movement to subjugate women. We are n ow in the Brezhnev years of Feminism. The implosion is coming. The USSR lasted seventy years. The Feminist movement probably has another 20 to go. But the recovery will be long and painful, afterwards.

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When setting up arguments I’d advise using “facts” that are wrong. Doing so negates everything you are trying to say.

“men do things that actually have economic value (build stuff, oil etc) and women do not do such things for the most part”

I do not know a single women who does not do something that has economic value. For example, I am an engineer. My mom is a nurse. My aunt is a science teacher. My sister is majoring in business. My cousin (girl) works at a science lab at Harvard. My best friend is a art therapist.

Just get the facts straight.

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Yeah, that formula is REALLY working for places where women are basically enslaved and of little value like India, where they are constantly raping and murdering their women. A society that takes into account the needs of both sexes would be best. Most women don’t WANT to have to choose between family and doing something in the world. It’s because we have a society built around men’s needs primarily that women HAVE to choose. By the way, this society also makes it difficult for men to spend time with their families as well. Also, as far as men building stuff, women do too and always have, just not on the same scale having been a prisoner of her biology for so long. Hard to do anything when you’re popping out a baby every year and tied to the stove.

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you’re way off base. Our society was created with the notion that women are more important, and must be protected. Men’s needs have always been driven by what is important to ensure survival of women and children. In the distant past, it was the men who hunted and gathered – risking life and limb to bring food to the women and children. How about the notion of “women and children first” in an emergency? same idea. Men are routinely asked to die for their country, but conscription is not required of women. Why not? If feminists were truly interested in equality, why don’t they petition the government to allow selective service registration for women? On a more local scale, I just love cutting a woman off in a checkout line, or passing through a door first and neglecting to hold it for her – letting it slam in her face. I don’t hold doors for men, so why should I hold them for modern women? And if any of this bothers you, then you’re a hypocrite as well as a feminist. Remember – it was feminism that brought you here. I agree that a society that takes into account the needs of both sexes would be best. But lots has to change in the US before the needs of men are adequately addressed.

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I don’t know what you’re smoking, but it must be good. Up until very recently women were looking
upon as property in the good old USA, and we weren’t given the right to vote
until the 1920s. We are raped every 2 minutes, sexually harassed on the job and make 77 cents to every male dollar earned.
Not to mention the horrific and frequent incidences of spousal abuse and murder perpetrated against women and their children by men. That’s just the good old USA. You must be very young and naïve indeed if you are going to sit there and tell me men are somehow in the
down position based on a few factors that favor women. This will be the last time I respond to you,
but this is a society created by and for men.

Women do not run this country, the media, or the entertainment industry. There’s a reason why porn is so ubiquitous and even the English language assumes the male as the default gender. So, please, please, please just STOP. Your false male persecution complex is f***
sad and not based in reality.

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Great talking points (one sided) by their all the same from your group.

The court system (in a landslide) favors women during divorce, child care, child support, etc….Women can cry rape at the drop of a hat and the man is taken away (no if, ands, or buts – no evidence).

Many commercials, today, point out the stupid, brainless man (bf or husband) in the relationship (we’d see a backlash if the shoe were on the other foot). Corporations and media (overwhelmingly) cater to women through commercials, tv shows, etc..

Women want equality for the things that they don’t have (i.e. equal pay) but everything else is fine. Many are looking for ‘payback’ and power….not equality. Men are abused (verbally and physically) in this country every day and the issue is still laughed at (even by the authorities).

Give me a break. Not buying this bullshit.

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That sh* pales in comparison to the fact that women are
raped and murdered by males every day, every minute in astronomical numbers. Like I said, buy it or not, men
are not being persecuted nor are they in danger of being persecuted.
This society is built for and run by males. And I don’t remember the last time some guy was just hauled away for rape without due process. Except if you’re talking about the Jim Crow South where hundreds of black men were falsely accused of rape and lynched.

So you just need to shut your chauvinistic, delusion dumb ass down and STFU because I don’t give a damn what you buy or you don’t, Neanderthal, facts are facts.

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I never have a problem with anyone agreeing or disagreeing with my comments. It’s your opinion and you are entitled to it. Leave the emotions out of it, though…that’s for women.

If you are a woman and you are commenting…then I really don’t give a fuck about your opinion…go back to your own group (men only here).

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Thanks for demonstrating that my low opinion of you and your ilk is correct.

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no problem…GFY.

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“I don’t know what you’re smoking but it must be good”
Hahahaha! Love it.

So many men today playing the victim mentality. And it is appalling! They have essentially become what they hate about feminism. The ones that claim that women need to become more like women, so that men can become more like men, are even the most stupid of the bunch. If men are so wise and powerful, why the hell do you need a woman to act like a woman before it gets through your thick skull that you should act like a man and take care of your responsibilities? You want to be the leader in your relationship or in your marriage? Be a man, take care of your wife and children, love and lead them, don’t neglect them, don’t cheat on your wife, respect her and make her feel like she’s important to you. Many men claim that they’re being emasculated and not made to feel like the leader. No one is going to hand you leadership on a freaking platter! We (at least good girlfriends/wives) give you sex whenever you want, sometimes when we’re not in the mood, but to sit down and talk with us and listen to us, is a chore. Just like this blog post, we’re told that we talk too much and to ‘shut the fuck up’, yet you get angry when feminism attacks male sexuality. Well, you shut your libido up! Be an example of a decent human being and lead her with confidence in the way you behave towards her and watch her follow you and reciprocate.

But of course many of them won’t do that. Especially a lot of the ones on here claiming to be ‘alphas’. Just a bunch of pseudo-betas prancing around with misplaced confidence and chasing anything with a vagina. They use feminism to justify sleeping around and avoiding commitment. I mean, let’s be real here, a lot of them don’t even really want to settle down yet, they still want to play the field and rack up their numbers and so they use feminism to excuse their slutty behavior. “Well since women are going to act terribly if we try to get into relationships with them, let’s all just pump and dump ’em!” Like you weren’t going to do that anyway. They’ll find any excuse to avoid commitment. While playing the field, they go after the slutty girls and ignore the kinder, more feminine and caring girls because those ones won’t put out quickly enough. But when they eventually want to settle down after they’ve become fat, balding and all used up and the hot young girls don’t want them anymore because they start to view them as creepy old men, they still expect the woman that they end up with to be as close to a virgin as possible. The fact that most cannot begin to see the hypocrisy isn’t even a surprise anymore. I’ve come to expect it. They play victims and put the blame on women and feminism.

But it’s funny to see how much feminism stings them. They long for the ‘good old days’ where a woman was tied to a man and was completely dependent on him for her basic human needs. If the man cheated and had multiple mistresses, their wives couldn’t do much and many wives couldn’t leave because they had no other option and had children to feed. But now feminism has come, given women some independence and choice and now it pinches so many men that they could no longer get away with their irresponsible behavior. Has a significant part of feminism become this man-hating group? Of course. Have some women mistreated their boyfriends and husbands and turned into entitled bitches all in the name of feminism? Absolutely! I would be an ignorant fool to deny that. And I would actively shame and reprimand such women. But we also cannot ignore that feminism has helped women have voices, given them choices, fought hard for female education, given a voice to the abused and raped, changed the negative way some women used to view sex and helped a lot of women feel like they actually matter. Men like to brag about all the things that they invented and their contributions to civilization, but your ancestors had their women supporting them as they did this. Your mothers raised and nurtured you to be the men you are today. Whether or not she’s proud of what you’ve all become is yet to be decided. Like it or not, feminism is one of the major reasons that your sister, daughter, female cousin and even your mother got a decent education. It’s a shame that feminism has deviated to what it is today, but this hatred for it and anger at women seen in blogs like these, is doing nothing but proving the original point of feminism.

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Speaking from a purely anthropological point of view, men were the hunters in hunter-gatherer tribes. Women, children, and the elderly were the gatherers and those that would care for any plants grown. While, yes, the men’s job was much more dangerous and, if a larger animal we’re brought back, there would be more food for the tribe, in addition to food for surrounding tribes that could be used for reciprocity. However, anywhere between 70-90% of the food consumed by the tribe came from the gathering done by the women, children, and the elderly.

From a cultural linguistic point of view, women are just as feminine as women have been in the past. Women still use hedging words (sorry, excuse me, well, etc.) in order to soften their comments as opposed to men’s more blunt speech patterns, women swear less then men (and from my own experience, the women tend to swear more with other women than they do with men), and women

Academic mumbo-jumbo aside, there are things present in modern society that have pushed men and women to be the way that they are today. How victims of rape and sexual assault, whether they are men or women, is completely asinine. Female friends of mine are asked what they were wearing or how drunk they were that night, where my male friends are told to man up, or are questioned as to how they didn’t like the advances (if the perp was a women) or asked if it even happened or why that would happen (if the perp was a man).

Alimony, no matter the gender, is a load of horse shit. Both genders are perfectly capable of getting a job and working. Few people like working, but you have to do what you have to do, especially when it comes to taking care of your kids. I have seen cases and had friends where the father’s cheated repeatedly with various women when the women had not cheated with anyone, with a few exceptions of “revenge”, and then the father’s did up and leave their wives/the mother of their children. On the other end of the spectrum, I’ve seen the nicest guy end up with the biggest bitch (but hey, she was pretty) who couldn’t keep her legs closed and the guy ends up being shocked that she cheated on him, and then continues to keep her around (though, to be fair, I’ve seen decent women keep around good looking guys that cheated on them repeatedly too). In my opinion, if you are in a committed relationship, (heterosexual, homosexual, or otherwise), BOTH parties need to keep everything in their pants and be committed to the other person. If you can’t do that, then you shouldn’t be in a serious relationship PERIOD.

While I am perfectly capable of taking care of myself and earning my own money, I’m not going to tell a guy that he can’t “be the man” in a relationship. I’m also not going to make a guy pay for me for the first few dates because “that’s how things are done.” If he insists, I’ll let him pay, but I’m not going to force him to pay for everything for me. However, I would appreciate the same courtesy of not forcing me to do something just because “that’s how things are done.”

I am not, nor have I ever been, a guy’s first choice. I’m quiet and tend to shy away from being the center of attention (usually telling people that the work I put into things is just “what I’m supposed to do/what I’m paid to do”), and would much rather be gifted with a book than makeup, clothes, or jewelry (not the things a lot of guys I know want to hear but hey).

Anyway, that’s just my shiny piece of two-cents. Take what you want from it, after all it is just an opinion.

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I DO think that women should be conscripted – maybe no for the combat arms specialties if the physical demands are too great, but for the other specialities. Besides registering for the draft, I think that all young people should do some sort of public service for 2 years. Not only will it allow them to meet others of different backgrounds and see more of the country, the service can help build infrastructure, promote skills, provide care for the underprivileged, etc. People should serve their country since we have it so much better than most of the world.

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Stop discouraging women. It won’t empower man anyways. Men and women generally may have different types of intelligence and talent. But this different types of skills are all needed to have better civilization because each compliments each other. Men may be good at military and other jobs that requires “physical” strength, while women may be good at healthcare and other jobs that requires skills in organization or socialization. You can never say that all men can handle all types of jobs. It depends.

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Wow,how can you big strong men be slaves to women if
you are better?

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Well in America a lot of the men run away from their responsibilities leaving most women to work their asses off continuously so if you want better wives and mothers start being better men and fathers

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Question for Roosh-
Since you’re so cheap-
When you cook at home, what kind of mesmdo you cook to keep from getting bored and be healthy and cheap???

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Roosh-
When are you going to drop all this philosopher-king pseudo intellectual bull shit and stick solely to game aka the reason for your sites existence???
It would be cool to hear more things like Nlp patterns and how to capture and lead a woman’s imagination to stand out from the middle management beta hordes and to be more interesting than to talk to a girl about the usual main stream non sense- movies, music, coffee, her friends, Cosmo psycho babel, etc.

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Amen to this and Roosh’s sage advice-you are doing a service to womankind-too bad many of them don’t realize it

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You’re fuckin dumb too.

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Your forgot the apostrophe after “fuckin'” and the comma between “dumb” and “too”.

Judging by the similarities in punctuation (or lack thereof), you and Noah appear to be somewhere in the vicinity of a few I.Q. points within one another. That’d be somewhere in the “fuckin dumb” neighborhood, presuming accuracy in your comment.

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you flatter yourself too much

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You are fucking disgusting this is a pathetic ad for idiots living in 1863 you and whoever this roost piece of shit is can go fuck yourselves you won’t ever find a good woman like that but anyone who agrees with this obviously wants a quiet submissive baby maker so again fuck you!! smile

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It’s entirely satirical, meaning they’re showing how extreme sexists are to prove how stupid it sounds, and you’re kind of an idiot for not seeing the idioms and sarcasm in this post and it’s comments.

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I disagree, many American women could stand to lose a bunch of weight.

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Hell yes completely agree with you. This “boy” (clearly no man here) is a disgusting human being. How about you stop being a controlling piece of shit and join 2014! Pull your fuckin head out of your ass. So many rude and cruel little boys in this world.

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no one wants you you loud mouthed dyke

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Gentlemen, now this is a modern woman! I’d love to marry her and listen to all of the colorful language every day. I’ll even buy my own stick so she can beat me with it….

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All these chauvinist Neanderthal cum stains should just give up their American citizenship and move to Saudi Arabia or some other backwards ass third world hell hole where they can own a female sex slave of their own.

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Where a good, stiff drink is strictly verboten. For men as well as women.

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im gonna guess your single correct?

Parker Bandhauer
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It seems satire is too complicated for you.

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Satire isn’t simply stating problematic societal trends with a completely serious tone and then coughing “just kidding” into you elbow in the comments section. Satire dismantles these trends and behaviors at the same time that it points them out. Let me guess, you watch family guy because that’s ‘satire’ as well? If this concept is too complicated for anyone, I’m certain that person is you.

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Alright, so you’re defending the misogynistic ass hole who wrote it then? If you want to rant to me about my mistake of “calling an alligator a crocodile”, then fine, I suppose you’re correct. The article is more close to irony than it is satire. It does occur to me, however, than you’re assuming I wrote the article or one of the nasty comments and that was my defense, but my initial, and only comment was this one you replied too, and I was telling the man who wrote the comment agreeing with the article that he doesn’t understand the article’s bull shit. I bite my thumb at you, sir.

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Biting thumbs and likening reptilian’s does not give you the authority to pretend like you even have the slightest clue what irony is. I agree that this guy is a ass, but you don’t seem to far behind him with your “I get it” approach to things. Define irony and we’ll talk.. on a related note, yeah this guy is a dick, hes bringing a gun to a knife fight. Girls suck, guys suck, we all suck.

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Irony is the use of words that are the opposite of the intended meaning. In which case this article is just that. The rest of my comment had nothing to contribute towards my understanding of literary terms, and I’m not sure why you think that was the point of it.

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Right, the problem with intended meaning is that you have to actually know it, not guess it. Think of irony this way, “how does one ‘ironically’ wear clothing?” If that many people ironically wear an outfit does it loose its ability to be ironic? In this case you first have to know the intended meaning, and I think a lot of us are unsure of whether this guy is either a complete dick, or just a troll on the internet.

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Ask the question thuswise: when a million people shout “I am an individual” in unison, are any of them actually being an individual? Someone who does not shout along with everyone else (or worse yells something completely different) is easily wont to pass for a jerk or a troll no matter what his motive.

Maybe Roosh knows nothing about the issue. Maybe he is a chauvinist fool. Maybe, he has no more self awareness than many of the worst straw feminsits whom he criticizes. But I see his point, and if they want respect, feminists would do well to listen to him, especially when they detest him. Whatever Roosh’s motives, he does offer some highly useful tools which can quickly and immensely empower a woman.

If he is a chauvinist fool, that would be ironic.

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great post-bottomline—women need to become women again not non males-cheers

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A real woman has a vagina.

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Ah, look at this. I’m guessing that you would HATE to be told that you had to change for a woman? Just because we’re females doesn’t mean that we can’t do whatever we won’t with our bodies. Eg be “fat” as he calls it (Sorry, that some girls have a natural curvy structer while others don’t) “mutilate ourselves” (You know, get tattoos and piercingly which are perfectly fine on men but not on women) or have really long hair (which can be almost impossibly to manage, let alone play sports with.) Obviously, you have either no brain, or you are as STUPID and sexist as this “Roosh” here. Cheers -A female that you would never ever want to meet if you enjoy walking xx

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Fat women are fat…don’t sugar coat it. Christina Hendricks from Man Men is a curvy woman…that’s the definition.

Many women out here are saying they are curvy or athletic…and in reality they are fat. Plain and simple.

A fat woman with short hair isn’t doing it for me (and plenty of other men). She has the right to do whatever she wants with her body but telling everyone that she is ‘curvy’ when she’s clearly fat is just lying.

A fat, balding guy is exactly that…fat and balding.

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Agreed. People got to stop using curvy as synonym for plumped. Curvy has nothing to do with size. It means being pear shaped or hourglass shaped.

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Take a look at the fat beer bellies and bald guys they are standing next to.

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What if they don’t want children and enjoy being on anti-depressants. Not everyone has to be spermed inside to consider their life valuable.

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I agree. This guy is just an asshole.

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dumb american woman deteceted. Shut the fuck up, whore.

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*American, *detected. Who’s dumb again?

donalda
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Your momma.

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“enjoy being on anti-depressants”?
lolwut

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I don’t enjoy being on antidepressants, but I am glad that I take them, because I truly have a chemical imbalance that leads to depression. If I didn’t truly need to take them, I wouldn’t. But therr are some people that are truly depressed. But none of us enjoy taking antidepressants.

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Agreed. For instance, they can be wage slaves who donate their earnings to their more reproductively successful siblings and cousins. There’s a role for everybody.

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Why would you never want children? To earn more money? Fuck making money….Its not what life is about…

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Some people just aren’t cut out for parenthood and recognized it early on in their life. Others might not be biologically able to have kids even if they wanted to.

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Because children suck. They make you miserable, they are a pain in the ass, people always question your parenting skills. Having kids sucks away your hard earned money leaving with you nothing but a back talking little joy bundle that eats your food and bitches at you and gets mad when you won’t buy them a toy.

I have two kids, worst two mistakes of my life. I wake up everyday and work a job I hate just so I can pay their bills and put food in their stomach.

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OMFG Austin, hopefully you’re joking. In case you’re not – maybe you forgot that you used to be that little shit screaming for toys and sucking up your parents money. That’s life. Man up.

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It’s not what lifes about for you and me but it may be what it’s about for them.

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Some people just want to live for themselves or they don’t want the responsibility for children. Some people are not biologically capable of having children and God knows some people who have children should have NEVER had them. Children don’t make your life mean anything. Children are not your legacy. Children are their own legacy and you are your own legacy.

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Legacy definition – anything handed down from the past as from an ancestor or predecessor. How can a person be a legacy to him/herself? What am I missing? This sounds like a woman who can’t or wont have children and who is trying to justify her position. She says that children don’t mean anything? So passing your genes down isn’t important? The fact still remains – reproduction is the most important function a human can engage in. If enough people felt the way donalda felt the species would have died out long ago. Thank goodness the “no children” paradigm is a self-canceling phenomena.

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Some idiot will always be pumping out a kid. People like to fuck too much and half of all pregnancies are unplanned, so I wouldn’t worry too much about our species dying out. If we do it will be because we fucked up the planet to the point its uninhabitable and poisoned ourselves or mother nature in her infinite wisdom decides to Ebola all of our asses.

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It’s really a Darwin cause and effect relationship. If a screwed up woman (who is on anti-depressants) doesn’t have children, then her screwed up depressed genes die with her. It’s a good thing.

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enjoy being on anti-depressants? bless your heart.

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If a woman refuses a man, he will simply find someone else to propagate his lineage. But if a woman makes a lifelong commitment to never have children, then her genes (and presumably her way of thinking) die with her. Her lineage stops, while the succeeding generations of women who choose to reproduce live on. So I’d say that with respect to survival of the species (arguably the most important thing we can do – much more important than career or money), a barren women’s life is not valuable at all. And I think deep down inside they know that. Maybe that’s why they need anti-depressants?

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of course its y, they realise their life is a huge sack of shit, after havin a gud ride on the ferris wheel

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F* u. That is the meanest thing I’ve ever heard that a barren woman’s life is worth nothing. Do you feel the same way about a man that is “shooting” blanks? Everybody’s life is worth whatever they make it worth. Some individuals have contributed more to the world than most of the people mindlessly pumping out children.

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exactly. my wife enjoys working and i love seeing her happy. I don’t want kids,she doesn’t want kids and we’re extremely happy together.

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A woman can get knocked up as fast as she can get sex and for most of us we get offers walking out to the post box. I’m uncertain why your friends aren’t knocked up. This makes no sense.

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Too much of that ‘Sex in the City’ philosophy will do that to a woman. She thinks she can have it all only to find out that no one can have it all.

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I would agree with that, but in most cases a lot of women don’t have a choice. A good man is hard to find and since the 50s are over, a woman needs a decent Job so she can eat and weather the douches she’ll have to wade through.

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Well they hang out wth you so that’s depressing☹️

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Guest–that is so sad to hear. My advice to your friends is leave NYC and look for available men elsewhere. Why do women stay in places where the competition is fierce then complain they can’t find anyone? If you’re a quality woman, you will stand out almost anywhere. America is a big place, and it’s tough to meet good women. Move around and loose the medication fix.

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So engineer our lives to serve your complete whim.

Sounds like the rantings of a desperate man.

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Live your life however you want it. Just be aware of the consequences.

fmudd
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Except Mr. Daryush Valizadeh here doesn’t want women to live their lives however they want. Dress, eat, act a certain way specifically for him.

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And how about women who want MALES to dress, eat, earn and act a certain way WOMEN want?:-))

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Laughable comparison.

WorldTraveler
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Care to elaborate WHY it is laughable?

Here I’m gonna change your initial comment :
“Except North American females here do not want males to live their lives however they want. Dress, eat, act a certain way specifically for them. ”
Please tell me WHY your comment was OK and mine is laughable.

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Think before you type; it’s like the white guy complaining about racism and slavery to a black man because of some random “knock out” attacks.

Men are presentaly and have historically had more power over women. This is the hidden premise in Mr. Daryush Valizadeh’s rant. Women need to completely change and reengineer themselves and then maybe Mr. Daryush Valizadeh will grace us with resources via marriage.

Women have no such power over men.

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Disagree:-) How does slavery and so called racism authorize “affirmative action” and “knock out” games?
Where is the correlation between now and then? Ain’t it a reversed racism these days when hiring preferences are given to minorities, LGBT, women and aboriginals instead of basing a selection on skills, professionalism and education?
Same applies to relationships. Ain’t it supposed to be based on equality, respect, mutual understanding and support?:-)

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So called racism, eh? To start, no one “authorized” knock-out games. It’s just a stupid comparison reactionary whites make just like the stupid comparison you are making with “what about what happens with men!!!???”

Here’s a crash course; after slavery, there were Jim Crow laws. After Jim Crow laws, there was an exodus of money from the communities, schools. etc. because whites didn’t want to put their money in the aforementioned communities, schools. etc. when segregation ended. That further deteriorated the already bad ghettos and increased poverty.

And all of what I wrote is just for black folks. I can keep writing for women, LGBT, etc.

Affirmative action was enacted BECAUSE of that history. You want to lament the situation of the skilled worker without putting anything in place to correct the imbalance the whites of the past put in place from the get go.

Now, getting back to “relationships”.

You know an easy way to tell if what Mr. Daryush Valizadeh wrote is bullshit? How many men would want their mothers or daughters to live up to what Mr. Daryush Valizadeh is telling women to do? With a straight face? Folks will talk all kinds of talk on this forum but by and large most men wouldn’t dare tell this shit to the women they care about in their lives.

Because they know, and I am sure you know, it is wrong and it is bullshit.

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It ain’t no bullshit, pal.
Please tell me WHY all the cases of slavery and racism from the PAST do entitle minorities THESE days to take over position without having enough skills, experience and education? And HOW is this kind of a reverse racism towards whites different from the racism towards blacks or other minorities in the past?
And YES, I’d want my wife to live up to the Roosh’s standards of living, health and behavior! I see nothing wrong in being healthy, educated , sporty, active and not so politically correct.

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Right, your wife. Notice I didn’t include women you simply want to have sex with. Nice slight of hand; but let’s try all of the women of your life. Chances are you wouldn’t want every woman to constantly contort themselves to live up to Mr. Daryush Valizadeh’s standards because it would be stupid to do so.

As for this:

Please tell me WHY all the cases of slavery and racism from the PAST do
entitle minorities THESE days to take over position without having
enough skills, experience and education? And HOW is this kind of a
reverse racism towards whites different from the racism towards blacks
or other minorities in the past?

It’s simple, really.

When you have been enslaved, forced to live through Jim Crow laws, then have all of the money/jobs taken from your communities AND to this present day still looked at as criminals, etc. simply for existing then you can talk about reverse racism.

Unitl then, you don’t get to simply pretend you didn’t benefit as a white man from what your ancestors have done in the past like nothing happened.

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Incorrect, again. I’d want EVERY single woman I’ve been with to live up to the Roosh’s standards which coincide with my own. Again I see nothing wrong in being sporty, healthy, educated, active and having own views and visions of life and politics. And this is true in regards of BOTH males and females!

You did NOT answer my question though:-) I’ll repeat it again:

Please tell me WHY all the cases of slavery and racism from the PAST do entitle minorities THESE days to take over position without having enough skills, experience and education? Ain’t it about skills, education and experience after all?:-)

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Right, you want every women chained to the weight scales and cooking/cleaning after a man while also being his mommy and sex doll. Uh huh.

And I answered your question; white men don’t get to pretend that what their ancestors did in the past somehow doesn’t beneficially affect them in the present.

If your grandfather robbed a bank and is living off of the dividends that doesn’t mean YOU aren’t obligated to give back the money or repair what was broken. Especially when (1) you are living off of those dividends and (2) the damages are clearly document and are currently still happening.

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Are you for real? Where did I mention that I want every woman to be chained to weight scales and do all the cooking/cleaning after the man while being his sex doll and mommy at the same time??? Please give me MY QUOTE.
But I do want every woman to do sports, to take care of herself and her appearance, to get educated, to be interested in new things in life while having EQUAL duties at home with a male!! Same applies to the sexual life in a family! Nobody is a doll and nobody is a slave!
You’ve never answered my question as to WHY does a minority person or anyone representing a LGBT community get a hiring preference when applying for any position in North America.
Your example of someone’s father robbing a bank many years ago and relatives later living off the dividends is completely irrelevant.
You seem to be just another Canadian brainwashed politically correct pussified male who vehemently denies the obvious. Too bad North America is overwhelmed with such a people….

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Are you for real? Where did I mention that I want every woman to be
chained to weight scales and do all the cooking/cleaning after the man
while being his sex doll and mommy at the same time??? Please give me MY
QUOTE.

Uh huh. Re-read the OP above that you are so vehemently supporting. It’s all about physically doing everything possible to please men. This site is all about getting women back in the kitchen: you just had this comment telling other wmen how happy they would be if they were “raising kids and taking care of the house”.

You guys talk shit and then balk when we point it out.

You’ve never answered my question as to WHY does a minority person or
anyone representing a LGBT community get a hiring preference when
applying for any position in North America.

Ignoring the answer I gave you and then claiming I didn’t answer the question. Won’t work.

You are angry and listening to bad advice for no reason; rather than be a reactionary try listening for a change.

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If you were smart enough you’d notice that I constantly push for equality in a relationship, but you chose to ignore my messages completely.
If you were honest enough you’d notice that I never wrote a message you pretend I did and gave a link to. And I hate liars and people with double standards. You are one of those.
You still never answered my question as to WHY selection criteria are based on skin color, sexual orientation or other bullshit. Please tell me WHY professionalism, knowledge and experiences are no longer selection criteria in North America.
Tell me why a minority is entitled to a position only because of a fact that slavery existed in North America over 200 years ago.
And why is someone better qualified only because of a fact that “shim” has both dick and boobs?

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If you were smart enough you’d notice that I constantly push for
equality in a relationship, but you chose to ignore my messages
completely.

If you were “pushing for equality” you won’t be supporting what Mr. Daryush Valizadeh said in the first place. He is completely anti-equality and your support of him obliterates your support.

If you were honest enough you’d notice that I never wrote a message you
pretend I did and gave a link to. And I hate liars and people with
double standards. You are one of those.

And here is the fake outrage over something you obviously support. I at least respect Mr. Daryush Valizadeh for being explicit in his hatred of women.

You still never answered my question as to WHY selection criteria are
based on skin color, sexual orientation or other bullshit. Please tell
me WHY professionalism, knowledge and experiences are no longer
selection criteria in North America.

Tell me why a minority is entitled to a position only because of a fact
that slavery existed in North America over 200 years ago.

And why is someone better qualified only because of a fact that “shim” has both dick and boobs?

And here is the twist of what affirmative action actually is. Applicants hired under affirmative action are just as qualified as anyone else, they have to meet the standards; it’s when you have two comparable candidates with the same qualifications that other factors come into play.

Read up on Affirmative Action before you criticize it.

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You are unable to discuss anything since you consider your opinion as an ultimate wisdom and the only right one while all others are wrong by default.

You choose to ignore all the facts and arguments given to you and keep plugging along with your politically correct mantra of a Canadian feminazi.

Please comment the following: http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/29/cbc-no-caucasian/

And have you ever heard about the “organizational needs” in the hiring process when an organization HAS TO fill quotas for the number of hired minorities, women, aboriginal and LGTB?

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Again with the one off examples. Kind of proves my point when you have to point to a few examples of affirmative action done poorly.

And you have a lot of hate on Canada, eh?

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Somehow I ain’t surprised that you are Canadian. Canadians are the most brainwashed and politically correct people in the world and Canadian males are the most pussified creatures in the world obeying every order given by their females Masters.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/federal-affirmative-action-policy-faces-review-1.940237

Sara Landriault of Kemptville, Ont., told the media Wednesday that she applied online for an administrative assistant job with Citizenship and Immigration Canada, and was asked by the online application if she was white, aboriginal or a visible minority. When she answered white, she said a message informed her she did not meet the criteria and could no longer proceed.

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Shall I post a few instances of white male mass shooters and then say all white men are violent and prone to killing a lot of people?

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Argumentative fat sloppy undomesticated tattoo freak harboring a bit of envy towards women who can do everything on this list while she can’t. Boo hoo!

That’s why you’re single. No decent man wants you because you’re good for absolutely nothing but being a bitch. “Strong and independent” is working out for you real well – don’t need to learn to cook or be thin or pretty when no man wants you huh?

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Did she say she was single? You know what they say about assumptions…

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I’m having so much fun reading these horribly irrational comments from both sides.

PWF, do you talk like this offline or just behind your shield of anonymity? You’re probably going to get clocked in the head one day by an angry broad, and I’m not sure if it will be entirely undeserved.

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@fmudd “Re-read the OP above that you are so vehemently supporting. It’s all about physically doing everything possible to please men.”

No, it’s “8 Things American Women Must Do To Make Themselves More Attractive For Men”

If you don’t want to be attractive to men, then don’t do these things. Problem solved.

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@fmudd “Chances are you wouldn’t want every woman to constantly contort themselves to live up to Mr. Daryush Valizadeh’s standards…”

This list of 8 simple things is that hard? A woman would have to “constantly contort” herself to accomplish them? You have I have vastly different definitions of “contort” it would seem.

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Incorrect: Women do have power over men. It is based on their desirability, as outlined in the above writing.

Would you grace someone unpleasant with YOUR resources?

fmudd
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Again, laughable comparison. Someone who looks good has more power over you than your boss?

Childish thinking.

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Incorrect: Someone who gives me a reason to get out of bed in the morning by way of her appearance, personality, and contributions (these combine into desirability) has infinitely more power over me than any employer.

fmudd
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If all you live for is a good looking woman then that is your problem but don’t try and say women WANT you to live that way. Demonstrably not true.

Phil Galt
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Incorrect: I Never said that. ‘Looks’ are only part of the package.

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“Men are presentaly and have historically had more power over women.”

yeah, going to work while the woman stays at home doing nothing, that’s having power over a bitch. yep

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1. Very good and thoughtful right, man! Right on!
2. She ain’t gonna get it though since feminism is a set of mind and feminists will never have enough guts to acknowledge the truth. They all live in denial…

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Sorry, very good and thoughtful message.

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The purpose of a woman is please a man and bear his children. Nothing else can make her happy.

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Thank you Mr. Old Testament.

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Women are increasingly buying into the latest form of slavery.

Women make better slaves, they work harder, consume more garbage and cost less to maintain over all and can be satisfied with trinkets. Hence the rise of women in various male institutions.

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Right, women living as they want is now “slavery” but cooking/cleaning for a man, raising his kids, being his mommy AND his sex doll is “freedom”.

Thank you for the Orwellian speech, Mr. Old Testament!

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Women were a lot happier when they were raising kids and taking care of the house. I don’t know where women got the impression that men went to work and had fun all day. My dad works 40-50 hours per week. My mom has lunch dates with her friends, plays cards, does a little cleaning, and socializes. Sounds like terribly oppressive slavery to me.

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Interesting that it’s always a man or men telling women they were a lot happier.

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You don’t exactly seem like a happy person. fmudd: internet warrior princess

fmudd
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Define happiness.

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Happiness: 1. a mental or emotional state of well-being characterized by positive or pleasant emotions ranging from contentment to intense joy.

2. If you need a definition for it, you don’t have it.

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Right, and women don’t experience happiness as you define it.

Only when she is serving a man and raising his kids.

Keep talking.

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Well normal women would at least get some happiness out of that. But Western women sees it as a chore that intervenes with her girls out nigths.

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You sound like a really ‘happy’ woman.

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My current squeeze loves it when I call her “sex doll”. Go figure…

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One side note, they helped the bankers deconstruct society, hence why the bankers wanted feminism. They actually cost more to maintain. But the bankers could get rid of male competition using them.

Only men create things, women destroy them more often than not. Why does the human race keep forgetting this.

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lolololol okay keep telling yourself that

Phil Galt
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take it, or leave it.

fmudd
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Women are increasingly leaving it.

That’s why Mr. Daryush Valizadeh is so angry.

Supposedly Europe is SO MUCH BETTER yet he can’t stop talking about American women.

And judging by many of his recent articles and books so are women all over the world.

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Hope that works out better for you.

fmudd
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It sure is. It’s not working for Mr. Daryush Valizadeh, that’s for sure.

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Why would anyone ever want to be with you if you’ve got such a hostile attitude towards doing anything that makes them happy?

If you don’t want to please your partner, don’t expect them to ever do anything to please you, either. If you’re happy being a disgusting, fat slug, then stop expecting to date a guy who isn’t also a disgusting, fat slug.

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Why would anyone ever want to be with you if you’ve got such a hostile attitude towards doing anything that makes them happy?

False premise: Mr. Daryush Valizadeh is talking about himself and not all men.

That’s the problem; he wants women to do everything for him.

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And how about all those North American women who want males to do everything for them? smile

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Answered above.

Elmer Fudd Mudd
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He wants them to look attractive. They want him to look attractive. He works on himself, so he expects them to work on themselves.

What about this is hard to understand? I’m not sure if this is trolling or some kind of weird autism with a formal name fetish.

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Butt-length? I’ll settle for shoulder length. Anything that can sustain a normal braid or pony-tail.

Flapper bobs? What is this, the 20’s? Pixie cuts? *ugh* (Emma Thompson, what have you DONE to yourself?)

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You’re only settling for shoulder length because butt length hair is so far outside of your reality you don’t consider it.

I don’t see it often, but when I do, and the woman is young and even moderately attractive, it’s absolutely hypnotising. The confluence of great hair resting on a nice ass is beautiful.

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Butt-length hair can compensate for a so-so face.

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Nail on head. fantastic post as usual

Girls totally use rejection as an ego enhancer. they look for opportunities to reject guys so they can brag to their girlfriends.

sickening.

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Is this how you think women operate? I have never rejected a guy just so I can brag to my friends, only immature women do that. I reject a guy because I am genuinely not inetrested or attracted to him and not because it makes me feel good about it.

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I live in Chicago so I know all too well about #1. I constantly hear from people outside of this city how chunky the women are here. The downside of a short bikini season I gather. Too much drinking, eating out and lack of activity. Their diets are horrid-actually most people’s diets here are bad. It’s hard to imagine these guys getting it up for their obese wives-I know a few of these guys personally. If you don’t care enough about yourself to be healthy and maintain a proper weight, why would you care about the guy in your life?

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Chicago here as well. The women are fat here for the same reason the men are fat here. Good food and limited self control.

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Truth Bullit-since most women can’t cook these days they are constantly going out to eat, with the expectation that men pay of course. We need to move.

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Male fatness doesn’t matter. Women go for a guy with social status; and fat guys can be the leader of their pack and command respect from other guys. That’s why it’s not uncommon seeing a guy with a gut with a decent looking girl. It’s not our fault “fat chicks suck” but fat guys do just fine- blame that on women who don’t consider male body shape to be a deal-breaker.

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As a guy who lost 30 lbs in the last year, it matters. It certainly doesn’t matter as much as social status and game but go gain 50 lbs and tell me it doesn’t hurt your success rate.

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Bravo for the weight loss-always great to hear someone getting healthier and making the efforts. And I would agree while yes some fat guys get girls(typically the desperate ones looking to get married and breed ASAP) a fit guy will get far more women. You’ll get laid a lot more at the very least although it may not lead to LTR’s. Sounds like a fair trade anyway

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Or maybe it’s because women aren’t as shallow and sex-driven as guys to give a fuck about how fat someone is. This might be hard for you dickwads to understand, but maybe women care more about a person than how much they weigh. Sure, maybe not every woman out there, but can you blame them with posts like these inflating their social media? You can lose the weight, but you can’t lose the shitty attitude you guys have towards women. Makes me fucking sick.

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LOL, grow some ovaries. Or just get the injections and surgery and be done with it.

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But good-looking women wouldn’t want to fuck fat men.

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With a wind chill of -20 and grey skies that look like something from the abyss- who wants to do anything but grab some pizza and beers and keep the pilot light on. I see your point but living in Alaskan type weather with all the great food isnt helping.

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This is brilliant trolling.

Bullitt315
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What’s sad is it shouldn’t be trolling. It’s 8 legitimately good tips

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FORGET ABOUT IT! It ain’t ever happening in North America since there are hordes of desperate and sex hungry males roaming around cities and towns willing to cater to any possible or impossible demand coming even from the ugliest female in town. North American males have absolutely NO self esteem and will obey any female order just to get an access to that elusive pussy.
North American males are like robots, clones or puppets controlled by a female master.
It’s MALES who have to change their approach and visions of relationships, dating and women they want to deal with.
BOTH parties are to blame, not just females! Males allowed women to take control in North America instead of promoting a relationship based on equality, mutual understanding, support, respect and integrity!

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I’d have to agree. This country is run for the benefit of women and minorities. It’s needs to burn to the ground.

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True that! But again ask yourself a question WHO is to blame for the current state of things?
It’s MALES who lowered their standards and criteria so much that they are now willing to date and fuck even the ugliest girl on the block. All changes start from within! No magician will ever be able to change your life overnight! The power of change is in your hands! Do not blame females for your OWN faults! Blame YOURSELF, your own standards, criteria and visions, and change them accordingly if you want any improvements!

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Honestly the whole thing rapidly deteriorated since he 1970s- back then the Patriot movement started before it was as 1984 as it is now. Today- unless 30% of the peasants revolt- we are screwed but the Facebook mind control works really good on them so why would they??? In Murixa there was a chance at resistance but it seems to dismiss as the old school warrior ass does off and brain washed she men remain aka. Kids who were born into his game and have been played since birth for a life of slavery to the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.

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The reality is far more complex than this. Feminism didn’t come out of nowhere. It’s social programming that is highly funded and it is a cultural force that no one man can stop; the genie can’t be put back in the bottle. It’s NOT American men’s fault that this insidious ideology has spread so far and wide, primarily through mainstream media. And no- it’s not enough for men to become PUA experts and “plate” because as Roosh has pointed out, even that becomes tiresome as we become Slut-Whisperers having to spend much of our time training and controlling these animals.

Women watch 32 hours of TV a week- all replete with the feminist ideologies. Every SINGLE week. Men can only do so much to combat this brainwashing. American men are louder and more aggressive than most other men, especially European men, Asian men, etc. We are not as beta as many other kinds of men. There is a problem with American women behaving like butch jokes, but it’s not because of us; it’s happened in spite of us.

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I somewhat agree with what you say but imagine if every single American male would simply refuse to deal with feminists and refuse to have a date, relationship or marriage with a North American feminist? Wouldn’t it change the general trend and break the mainstream?

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Ur not beta ? really ? maybe a generation back you were the top dog..now your all feminine metrosexuals…actually entire hipster/metrosexual shit comes from US

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I watch zero hours of television a week. Try again, genius, I would have to be brainwashed to go along with the stupid shit I am reading on this page.

You view women as animals and you want us to be like animals, quiet, groomed the way you like, and above all, subservient. But I didn’t spend 16 years of my life getting an education so I could cook dinners, push out babies and generally get abused by dumb shits like you. So I guess you hit the nail on the head, that genie isn’t going back in the bottle.

America, love it or leave it, kiddos.

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LOL- enjoy your waste of a life. “Career women” are outgunned by men in the workplace and lonely at home. You’ve chosen a worthless existence; good luck with that. People like you were meant to be filtered out.

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You’re a simpleton with a dumb point of view.

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That would be why there are more educated women graduating college than men and are earning more money than their male counterparts, right? (Pew Research Center survey and analysis of Census data – 10 Findings about Women in the Workplace.) Aww, it must be tough to live in a world that no longer revolves around you.

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I don’t think so. Read the book “Men on Strike”. Then we can have a rational discussion about your assertion.

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This article is not clear to me.. Who is the man behind, demanding that perfect woman? Is it said about any woman of any age? Women who had children will not be that twenty ish looking girl that this man here demands-he must live in his own world where is entitled to this superwoman..
I see it differently: there are many out of shape, bald men too, with tatoos, men who are not that confident-obviously no one can be perfect..
Career women may have a lonely life, but so do those who were left with child. It is the career woman’s life, she decided to earn money, and there are men who don’t mind it.
That with hair lenght-no comment, that’s just expectations put boldly there.. (seems looks are so important that any shorter haired should get worried..:)
I see this article as rules put out there from men who are dreaming about this woman: obeying, not talking, staying slim and listening to him how to live her life.. smile
I would kind of understand.. ok keep slim (for myself to be happy), divide time between career and relationship wisely, and find a man who is not interested in my looks only, and did not sleep with half of the town. I then will not reject him, have respect and obviously he making me happy will keep me at my best self. (women put on weight when unhappy)
No career woman here.. I am single, and probably will stay so, men in my age go for this idea of woman, whilst sleeping with those who they don’t ‘value’. I filter promiscuous men, so is tough. I don’t buy into: ‘you have to sleep with men and if they like you enough (you are slim, have long hair, don’t talk etc.) then they will think about staying with you’ thing.. (I am slim and and am no high flyer)
I think this man should look for this perfect woman, instead of hooking up with those who don’t fit his unreal ideal, and when he finds her commit to her.

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It’s sad but you will be single for a long time…..and not know why. A few tips. It doesn’t matter if a man is overweight. Women are attracted to a man’s social status (related to ‘survival’) which is largely independent of weight. Men, in turn, are attracted to a woman for her reproduction values- an obese woman does not bode well for the ethic or body type of the children.

A person like you should have no qualifications. You don’t have much to offer. You are not special because you have a vagina. You are just another twat. Men on this forum plate multiple chicks at a time; I’ve got two going right now, I’ve had more before. You are single and using a dildo on yourself. Think about why that is.

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Man, you have a BIG problem with women. I’ve been hurt by women before, I was almost destroyed by one, but I never thought the way you think or said the things you said. I gotta ask: which woman messed you up? And don’t pretend that there isn’t one. Don’t lie to yourself. Someone did a number on you, some woman played you down and dirty.

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I’m a very fortunate man Jeff. I’ve avoided the whole marriage dead-end. I’m sorry my red pill reality-check interferes with your blue pill programming. I see feminism for what it is- an ideology based on a flawed assumption of equality. I see “career women” contributing 33%-50% of what a man would in the same role but earning the same amount. I see those same women cultivating male tendencies and becoming un-dateable. Only those that are blind cannot see any of this, and rail against the rest. Today, you are in the majority. Tomorrow, blue pillers like you will be held in contempt. And then you will feebly offer that you were “red pill before it was cool”.

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Come on, man. You can’t honestly believe that shit. For the record, I agree with this list and I believe that feminism has had some negative cultural consequences. But newsflash, there are a lot of women out there who are more intelligent than you are and more capable in whatever capacity you hope to work in. Toning down this new strain of feminism which attacks masculinity is enough for me. If you have a talent, it should be utilized regardless of sex. Haha, get laid and maybe you’ll chill out bud.

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“America… leave it, kiddos.”

Great idea.

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Not exactly. Feminists created the system, but it was men (actually manginas) that implemented it – men controlled Congress and the White house. And it starts at the top – Bush, Clinton, Obama – three of the biggest manginas I’ve ever seen. In his State of the Union speech last year, Obama said that it was men’s fault that there are so many fatherless children in America. WTF ?? Can someone please explain that to me? And why do we spend more on women’s health issues in America when men have the shorter life expectancy? Because mangina lawmakers decided that women were more important than men – that’s why….

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The first mistake in Femerika was giving females the right to vote. Big fuckup. And I tbought I’d never find myself ever saying this, ever; but female behavior is all to telling. From that point on things got shittier and then went into overdrive when the leash was completely pulled off of them when zero (0) accountability of women became the norm, i.e. today.

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Do not blame females in all male’s faults and setbacks. This is a very wrong attitude. Males and males only are to blame!

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This is a poorly-constructed argument. Try again.

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Go back to school, get an education, take some history, a little bit of economics, maybe some political science, and learn to write. If you already have an education, then you have been robbed.

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Please, tell me your address, so I can proceed to come chop your dick off you worthless ass scum.

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Agree…and the truth hurts (listen to all of the backlash, threats and hate here). Women, today, can get away with saying anything about a man (because of all of the ‘equality’…lol). But, let the roles become reversed and you’d here nothing but a storm of complaints and threats.

I don’t expect everyone to agree with me…but it’s reality. Women want equal pay but have to problem with our court system, today (because they greatly benefit from it and the man ends up paying). Equality, right? No, payback.

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Exactly, if you want to see where the US is heading look at the Afro-American – matriarchal – community AKA the ghetto.

1. African-American women are the most o’beast of every community approx. 80% of the females in that com. are land whales.
2. They were wigs, extensions and synthetic garbage on their heads.

3. They talk a lot and are loud.

Just a god damn disaster.

etc etc.

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Then again, may be, just MAY BE, if males were NOT paying any attention to such a kind of women, then it’d be a trigger for them to start and think about some personal changes and improvements? smile

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Some will do that but not the majority. It’s takes real effort to get yourself out of the comfort zone, most therefor will take the situation as is.

WorldTraveler
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If a male is unable to make an effort then he does not deserve to be with a woman of his dreams/goals. It’s that simple.

seriously
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Exactly my point.

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They were wigs? That’s interesting…I didn’t know a human being could be an inanimate object.

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What the fuck are you talking about? I hope that you realize just how misogynistic and offensive this whole article is. And these comments, and stupid fucking article, are prime examples of what is wrong with society (and not for the reasons that you morons seem to think they are). Clearly, America is filled with sexist/misogynistic assholes who cannot even fathom the idea of equality between the sexes. Also, your comment is racist as it stereotypes African American women, and the overall socio-economic status of African Americans. Perhaps a course in history or social studies could help you all? Or, maybe even a set of morals, which you clearly lack. Truly, I hope that you people can grow the fuck up and understand the true meaning of everything that you are so mindlessly posting on here in agreement with the author of this insolent excuse of an article. And if you disagree, you can go fuck yourself because no self-respecting woman is going to.

stanston
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i love hearing about how much a woman respects herself after she grabs a towel and wipes jizz off her face from diferent guys every other night.

seriously
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I love your sarcasm.

Stop jizzing on girls’ faces if you think girls are sluts for sleeping with whoever they want (the same thing guys do, sleep with whoever they want)–I can agree that “It’s MALES who have to change their approach and visions of relationships, dating and women they want to deal with.”.

If you guys had any standards, the supposed “sluts” you speak of wouldn’t exist any more because nobody would date or fuck them and people would change how they approach dating and relationship patterns…

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Why would i, as a male, ever turn down sex from young, feminine, women? i am no player of any sorts. i could count the women i have laid on my hands. That is simply because i have developed a conservative mindset of building myself, then in hopes of my accomplishments have a life partner and start a family at a young age. If a woman takes an hour conversation, 3 drinks and a walk to my home to sleep with me why would i say no?

When a man creates self destructive habits for himself he either conquers them or succumbs. when a woman has them she takes anti depressants and creates a blog to lie to young girls on how these ideals are beneficial to them. the young girls follow in these failures of femininity and repeat the cycle, only the repetition is exponential.

Finally, a man can have as many sexual partners as he wants with women without consequences because its up to the women to sleep with him. you may claim this is unfair but we get ours as well. a man who is willing to provide time and resources (a relationship, which is just a transaction between two people that enjoy each other and benefit from said transaction) should receive no sympathy either.

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All I am saying is that the standards were set so low by men. Not that you should turn sex down, but that women (most of them anyway) are the way they are because it’s what they think their peers (men and women alike) want to see. If a woman did something you didn’t like and you went after her anyway, you’re positively reinforcing the way she wants to look. “Well I can look past this if I”m going to get laid.”

Don’t be so desperate for the pussy and raise your standards if the way women look is such an issue to you. It’s not our faults you guys can’t control yourself long enough to stand up for yourselves and say that you won’t be manipulated any more for sex–you could just as easily say no and chase women who look the way you want instead of settling for what you don’t want. That’s your individual mistake, not the mistake of all of womankind, that you will have sex with anything with a vagina.

Likewise, wo