Are You A Real Man?

Modern society has warped what it means to be a real man. The result is you have “men” who are successful on paper, who have a house, some money, respectable wardrobe, stylish furniture, and fine tastes, yet they can’t get laid with a beautiful woman. I don’t have to remind you of the hogs that a lot of men are carrying around on their arms in public, a sort of reverse natural selection that our feminizing culture is allowing. I have thought long and hard about all the qualities that make a real man, and have determined that only two are absolutely essential.

1. Ability to get laid at will. If you can’t get laid with multiple women, you’re not a real man, plain and simple. If you can’t mate with superior genes then you’re a blight on the human condition, and should be euthanized. What else is there more important to human existence than fucking? Nothing.

There was a time when I couldn’t get laid, when I was a useless parasite on the world, but then I learned and now I am spreading my seed on multiple continents. It’s true I have not had children (as far as I know), but with a flip of a switch this can be accomplished easily. In all likelihood my human destiny will be accidentally achieved rather soon.

2. Personal strength. Can you defend your lifeblood if the shit really hits the fan? Can you protect yourself against an attacker? Otherwise you are not a real man. Personal strength comes in two forms: the confidence to make a stand and the physical apparatus to carry it out. If you fall over at the slightest breeze then are you not suitable for life, and should be terminated. If I can wrap my thumb and index finger around your bicep then you are a decaying organism that would perish without the nanny state to keep you safe and warm. While I am not a meathead, I am prepared to fight to the death if my being is threatened or questioned.

Real men are made, not born. If you choose not to be a real man, but instead a half-man like 90% of Western males, then you don’t deserve the benefits that come with it—sex and respect. I cannot imagine living life without either.

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Excellent.

Boston66
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Best post I’ve read.
Survive and replicate.
Good shit..

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Any guy can get laid at will if he simply lowers his standards enough…

Getting laid with HOT women at will is what you should be aiming for. I would edit the 1st point to make this clear lol. A guy who regularly fatty fucks because he thinks he can’t get the hot chicks is just a loser. A real man always goes for the hottest chicks.

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Knew a guy with a claim of 60-70 lays in a span of 10 years or so. Met many of them. All hideous. All fatties. All well below 5s. 5 would have been generous. He got laid more than anyone I knew. Wouldn’t call him a real man AT ALL.

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Somehow methinks you are engaging in the SJW act known as projecting. It was your job as his wingman, IF what you say is true, to then stop him from committed faticide. Some friend.

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yawn…………..

Carl Sagan
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Funniest post I’ve read.

Good shit though.

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So gay men aren’t real men?

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This sounds like sour grapes, since you don’t have those things you say aren’t real. I think the best way to define manhood is winning in any zero-sum game in which you choose to compete – being effective, highly effective, in whatever you choose to do.

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“The result is you have “men” who are successful on paper, who have a house, some money, respectable wardrobe, stylish furniture, and fine tastes, yet they can’t get laid with a beautiful woman.”

The Paper Alpha.

There are tons of these. I have no stats to back it up, but my guts tell me there are more of these now than in years gone by.

– MPM

The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Manny Pacquiao VS Miguel Cotto: Post Fight Thoughts.

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Survival and reproduction. Basic.

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I guess I have to come up with another commenter name, as someone else has usurped “Chris” (above). Thats fucking annoying, as I’ve commented here a lot under that name. Maybe I’m just in a slightly pissed off mood. Time to get laid, I guess.

Anyway, the funniest thing about paper alphas is that they are just so eager to tell you about their alphaness, as you would never otherwise know if they were in the room. “I drive this car, went to this school, have this job, and own this much property”. There is no question about who is a real alpha, and they rarely have to open their mouths to prove such if they do not choose to do so. I equate “tough guy” alphas, who try to unnecessarily square off with every other guy in the room if given the chance, almost with the paper alpha. Its just about the same thing. Neither are real alphas. However, the real alpha will successfully defend himself if necessary, as Roosh said, you just won’t know about it until you are attacked.

I pretty much agree with VKs comments, althugh some leeway has to be given to older (40+) alphas who can’t quite as easily get away with banging the 23 year old 9.5 anymore. You have to grade on a curve.

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Also, I think BCGs comments, while coming from a good place, aren’t right. I can choose to get very good at a number of things which make me nothing more than a parasite on humanity, let alone not “more of a man”. Think investment banking. Does skimming value out of the economy generated by the working class, while adding no value to it, make you a man? I think not, no matter how lucrative it is and how “good” you are. Integrity and character has to factor in there somewhere.

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Chris, do you even know what investment bankers do?

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yeah, i do. I don’t want to derail the comment section though with a debate about that. Can you tell me how they “earn” their money, though? What value do they trade to society for their income? Product? Service? What? This discussion could easily degrade into an economics discussion, which would be too much for the comments section. But they create no value, they only take it from the economy on a large scale. My investment banker acquaintances have admitted as much. Thats hard to refute. All traders do the same thing, investment bankers only being worse because of the power of their banks and the large scale of their operations. Value/wealth is traded for in a normal economy. Those parasites don’t trade a thing, but gamble their money, our money, and money which doesn’t actually exist to societies detriment. Once you get rid of all of the noise and double talk, it comes down to the fact that they skim value from the economy without adding anything or trading society for it in any way whatsoever.

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I mean, if they are buying and selling hard assets, like businesses, thats one thing. Thats just selling product. Nothing wrong with that, and they engage in a lot of equity investment. But a lot of what they do is described as above.

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I enjoy reading your blog and I think you have many useful and inciteful things to say about getting laid etc. But what cracks me up are these sort of ego trip posts. You’re not an Alpha Roosh. I’m sorry but you’re not. The real Alphas are those you term the “Naturals”. They don’t need to think about all this existential bullshit to make it happen, THEY JUST DO IT.

I also get a real laugh reading you talking about fighting. Let me ask you, When was the last time you were in an honest to god fight? (Assuming you have actualy been in one) What went down? Who won and how?

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If you really believe that all traders add no value, Chris, then you must believe that rational, self-interested individuals wouldn’t bother to trade with them, since they would only lose by doing so. But oddly enough, traders of a variety of kinds play an enormous role in modern economies, not only as investment bankers but as intermediaries in the production and delivery of all kinds of goods and services.

All the parties transacting with traders must be making a terrible mistake, from what you say. But that suggests that an enterprising alpha-male like you ought to be able to correct this massive, trader-wrought, systemic inefficiency in the world economy, and make a buck (or a trillion) doing so, by organizing our complex economy along trader-free lines. Please do so!

I know I’ll be better off without ubiquitous traders skimming the fat, given that they only take. And you can start small–since transacting with traders is a value-losing proposition, you should be able to enter any line of business in which traders play a role and bypass them, delivering goods and services more cheaply, and thus out-compete them.

The only thing puzzling me is that no other genius has taken advantage of this gigantic arbitrage opportunity already. Count yourself lucky that you’re so much smarter than everyone else, and strike it rich!

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@ Chris:

The important job that i-bankers (or rather i-banks) do is making the economy as efficient as possible by enabling capital to flow from source to use. All the economic theories based on an efficient allocation of capital are moot if capital does not flow efficiently. Without i-banks and some other financial institutions, the flow of capital would be stifled.

We could argue whether i-banks enable this flow in the best possible manner or which is the optimum trade-off between efficiency and protection of some stakeholders and then we would have an interesting discussion. But denying the service they provide is, in my opinion, rather ignorant.

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¿Quien es mas macho, Roissy o Roosh?

¡Roosh es mas macho que ese maricon Roissy!

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Roosh your 2nd criteria doesn’t make sense. A man with a skinny bicep with a gun can defend himself better than a man with a big bicep without one. Personal strength is not only relative, it’s up to interpretation. It’s better defined as power rather than muscular strength.

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And these are the only two things that everyone has told me for my whole life are the least important for being a man. But now I’m putting a lot of thought into it and working on it. I’m 22 by the way.

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“And these are the only two things that everyone has told me for my whole life are the least important for being a man.”

American Society will teach you that.

Transport yourself to a 3rd world beach town or city and you will find that these two things are all that matters.

And being a “cool” person. (Read into that however you would like).

– MPM

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Roosh,
My understanding is Real Men are BORN, not MADE. You don’t teach a lion to hunt…Its in his nature to hunt. Was that a typo from you??

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I don’t rely on the nanny state. I rely on the state to protect my right to life. The guys with big weapons would run the world without a state to protect rights, not the guys with big biceps.

You are coming from the right place, but you are creating a cartoon version of the truth.

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Just out of curiosity, Roosh, when was the last time you punched a man in the face?

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I agree that men aren’t born they’re made by their fathers, grandfathers, and uncles but claiming that these two qualities are the only one’s that matter devalues the very statement you concluded your post with. I know guys that are good at pulling chicks and fighting but that’s about it. I would classify each one of them as nothing more than a man-child at best. Irresponsible, directionless, devoid of discipline, resolve, purpose, or ambition.

A few years back I sparred with this one cocky mofo that had maybe 3 months boxing training under his belt but he wanted to fight. He liked to lift weights, spent weekends blowing his construction job money on chicks, drugs, and bottleservice. He had maybe 20 lbs on me and the first words out of my trainers mouth were, “take it easy on him.” Shiiiittt. He came at me so quickly he ran out of gas in a minute, so much so that his punches were coming at me slow motion. I floored him with a hook to the body that curled him up into a ball. He quit after that, not just boxing but the sparring match not more than two rounds in. He had no heart, no discipline. If you can take punches and still think about what you have to do, that’s a real man and I don’t mean literal punches either.

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DF: I think your story supports Roosh’s point. He couldn’t fight, so he wasn’t a man.

This post is surprisingly thought-provoking. I was trying to construct an imaginary man who couldn’t fight and who couldn’t get laid but who still seemed manly, but I couldn’t. Imagine a story where Albert fights Barry. Barry wins, then Barry bangs the girl who watched them fight. You can say anything you want about Barry, but can you call him a boy? Give Albert a house, a job; give him money; give him a sweet car; give him anything you can think of, as long as he loses in a fistfight and doesn’t get laid. What mystery object or quality can you give him that makes him a man? I can’t think of any.

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I’d just love to meet Roosh face-to-face. I mean he’s such an Internet tough guy – but then again, he’s a great writer and likes to provocate. It’s also super funny when a skinny guy like him boasts about hitting the gym and fighting.

I don’t know what to think of Roosh. Some day I’m reading this blog, I consider him being completely lost in this life. The other times he’s very spot on. As I said, it’d be interesting to meet him face-to-face.

Btw, how does getting laid not make you “a useless parasite”? I mean, this globe is becoming so overcrowded already, what good is it to be able to produce multiple offspring? Oh, letting YOUR genes pass on? What good does that make to you actually?

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So your idea of a real man is a brute? I think a real man has many levels beyond this cliched idea of “man’s sole purpose is to replicate” bullshit.

Real men are good for a few things, but EXCEPTIONAL MEN are the ones that matter in this world.

If it weren’t for those exceptional men, we would still be living in huts and fucking our daughters.

Man has higher faculties that separate him from other animals, and to reject that is to reject reality.

What is my idea of a real man? A real man is someone who understands the circumstance at hand (or at least does his best to learn) in order to make it work in his favor.

This would work in your case because you understood there was something wrong because you weren’t getting what you wanted, so you went and figured out a way to get what you wanted.

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What about guys who have huge dudes around them for security? Would 50 Cent be less of a man now because he hires security?

If you fought to the death and lost, would you say you weren’t a real man? It sounds like personal courage is what you’re aiming at…

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I think about that personal strength theory all the time. I see people commenting about if they had a gun, or people around them for security.

You won’t always have a a gun on you, or security to protect you from dangers.

There is a large majority of the country that wouldn’t even be able to run down the street for the sake of their own life. In the event of a natural disaster, you might need to be agile enough to escape danger. A gun or security is not going to help you then. Strength and agility is your best defense.

I’ve been robbed at gun point in Amsterdam, and mid robbery I smashed his head against a brick wall. Turns out, as suspected, he didn’t have a gun. It was fucking scary, and the adrenaline probably helped…but if I never stepped foot into a gym, I don’t think I would have pulled that off…

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I just want to say that I love Roosh, but I don’t think pickup, or any other aspect of life, should really define a man. I think we should do whatever we want with this life. I choose to study pickup and to approach and try to bang girls, but I don’t think anyone is less of a man because he chooses not to. Just my two cents…

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Roosh,
When was the last time you were physically tested by another man? When was the last time you put yourself in a position to be tested, even in a controlled situation (training/sparring)? How often and regularly, if at all, do you do it?

Lifting heavy objects will not help you defend yourself in a fight. If anything, it will endanger you by giving you a false sense of confidence, similar to how people who carry guns put themselves in dangerous situations.

That said, I think I know the answer to my first question. If someone is an experienced and proven fighter but cannot execute game and bang chicks (but understands the theory behind it), is he not a man? Since you are inexperienced at defending yourself and are yet untested, aren’t you by your own definition seriously lacking? Like game, shouldn’t you be practicing some method that is proven, rather than deluding yourself into thinking that weight training will help you in a scrap?

If the definition of being a man is being able to bang the hottest chicks, then shouldn’t it too include the ability to defend yourself against other tested male opponents?

Go to Brazil. Bang Brazilian hotties by night. Immerse yourself in the world of BJJ by day. Learn what it is to struggle. Become a complete man. Learn humility like you never thought existed. It’ll give you plenty of fodder for another book. You’re right there. You won’t regret it.

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DF: Like bcg said, in the end that guy couldn’t fight, but I think you’re thinking of a definition for GOOD man (you mention heart, discipline). That’s something else.

No. Having discipline, persaverence (i.e., heart), or ambition are not uniquely moral qualities. They can be found in the most depraved men as well. Had I mentioned ethics or honor then yes, it would have been applicable to the definition of a “good” man.

I should point out that boxing or sparring in a gym is a controlled environment. When shit goes down on the streets, there are no rules. Knowing how to fight won’t guarantee a damn thing, it just imparts you with some confidence to carry yourself with a little bit more swagger.

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I disagree.

With a few tweaks, your arguments are similar to those provided by some extreme racists when they are asked to explain why they are racist. Just expand your focus from the individual (i.e., yourself) to the race, and from “fucking” to “propagation of the race.”

“not suitable for life, and should be terminated” — Many handicapped people have been sent to concentration camps for being handicapped.

“If I can wrap my thumb and index finger around your bicep then you a decaying organism that would perish without the nanny state to keep you safe and warm.” — I can almost wrap my thumb and index finger around my own arm, but you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone who opposes the state more strongly than I do.

Realize that “the nanny state” (or any state, for that matter) is based on violence. Although you throw in a reference to self-defense at the end of your post, most of your comments seem to encourage the *initiation* of violence, which makes you no better than the state you condemn.

The state has no legitimate moral authority to initiate violence against innocent people, and neither do you.

Support freedom all the time, or don’t support it at all.

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“I should point out that boxing or sparring in a gym is a controlled environment. When shit goes down on the streets, there are no rules. Knowing how to fight won’t guarantee a damn thing, it just imparts you with some confidence to carry yourself with a little bit more swagger.”

I agree, but while it is a controlled environment you are dealing with an unwilling opponent who is trying to “hurt” you back. If you train regularly and for a while you’re going to own 99% of the fools who wanna bow up on you. you’re going to be used to physical confrontation if it comes down to that, especially if you compete, and you’re not gonna spaz and gas when someone comes at you. more importantly, you’re going to have a better appreciation for the fact that half the guys out there who are gonna fuck you up don’t look like they can fuck you up.

if you’re really interested in self defense, time spent doing 3 x 10 curls could be spent in the ring or on the mats. roosh brags a lot about how many approaches he’s done to get where he is now, which explains his skills at picking up chicks. how can he explain his prowess for defending himself? he can’t. he just thinks he can. it’s the same as someone who reads all the blogs about picking up chicks and claims to be a master PUA w/o ever having done so. easy concept to understand.

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I really think one of the best ways to reinforce your manhood is to get into regular “fights”. My old college roommates and I used to have these little fights, everything below the neck was game, and I remember during that time I walked differently, and people looked at me differently– just like in Fight Club. Although this probably sounds childish to you MMA/Boxing goons, it’s still an effective exercise.

The confidence that comes from knowing you can defend yourself can really push you to another level in sooo many aspects of your life. Girls smell that testosterone and drop to their knees and give you 20 (licks). “I guarantee it”

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A fascinating post because it highlights so many of the intellectual dangers of the Game community.

Sad. Unfortunately, this is a very real and dangerous tendency amongst all who think very long about Game – they run the risk of slipping into a kind of primitive and brutish machismo. It happesn on Roissys site too.

At its best, Game is invaluable in developing an authentically masculine personality, but it always teeters on the brink of slipping over into adolescent machismo, it always skirts the abyss.

It is pathetic to define ones self-worth by how pleasing one can be to women – good god, that is giving women way too much power, and is actually a subtle, subterranean form of woman-worship.

That is another danger that constantly threatens the Game community – to fall into a kind of slavish woman-worship one surrenders ones meaning and sense of worth to the judgement and decisions of women.

As regards violence, physical violence always represents a fairly low form of power and those in our society who spend much time and effort developing their physical strength are typically on the lowest social scale. There is a reason for that.

The reason is that a much greater power and strength is achieved through reason, rationality, cultivation of the intellect, and psychological qualities like self-discipline.

One only has a limited time in life to develop and cultivate ones assets and best qualities – those who focus on their physical strength as their best – sometimes only – asset are clearly at the bottom of the social pole.

In our society, one simply dosnt HAVE to spend too much time developing physical strength, and to do so would be detrimental to developing our other, higher, and more powerful faculties. That is one of the glories of being civilized.

Now of course, one should probably devote SOME time to being physically strong, but it should clearly NOT be ones primary pursuit. Its definitely one of the lower ranking pursuits for anyone who has been blessed with other, more important personal assets.

What defines a man can be expressed in one word – strength. Yet strength has many different manifestations, and physical strength, while shouldnt be entirely neglected, is perhaps its lowest form. Intellect and psychological strength, even culture as a form of enhancement, count for far more.

And finally, philosophically, you are continuously and apparently unconsciously commiting what is called *the naturalistic fallacy* – you seem to think that just because we have genes that help us get laid, we should adopt that as our only *purpose* in life. But life or nature has no *purpose* – the genes that help us get laid survived merely because they helped us get laid and thus were ABLE to survive. Its a kind of tautology. The whole process is entirely impersonal and without consciousness and doesnt imply any kind of *purpose* that we should now adopt consciously.

Our genes dont WANT us to get laid – there is no consciousness there. Those genes are there as a result of a completely random, pointless process.

If you want to say that getting laid brings you great pleasure, that is one thing, but to say that reproducing is ones *purpose* in life and that is ones *destiny* is to involve oneself in a whole host of misunderstandings and probably shows one hasnt really understood the nature of evolution and gene selection.

Developing a genuinely masculine personality and eliminating weakness and fear is very worthwhile – being macho is childish.

There is a built-in tendency in the Game community to skirt the abyss

There is something pathetic about defining your self-worth by how pleasing you can be to women. There are things a self-respecting man should refuse to do no matter how many hot women it gets him.

It just so happens that the world is set up in such

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Oh, the last few lines of the last post were meant to be deleted. Sorry for the messiness.

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“when was the last time you punched a man in the face?”

I think he’s more into punching girls, he’s certainly hinted pretty broadly at it a few times.

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First of all, if you’re trying to present some standard by which men should live, referring to men who meet your standard as “real men” is not a good idea. There are already too many bizarre and conflicting ideas about exactly what being uber-manly means.

For example, there’s this idea that real men are supposed to coldly analyze things and be very rational, right? I read a story about two guys that were drunk and fooling around with an axe. One of them lay his head on the table and said “I’ll bet you aren’t man enough to chop my head off.” The other guy *was* man enough. How rational was that?

Aside from giving your standard a name that’s already in widespread use, you don’t present much of any reasons for why anyone might want to follow it. Instead of promoting the benefits of individual items in the package (having sex with hot women is fun, being able to defend yourself is useful) or the combined benefits of all the items in the package (fucking and fighting raise testosterone levels and will help you live longer and healthier, I just pulled that out of my ass), your main arguments go something like “Anyone who’s far enough away from my standard deserves to die”. Well first of all, the idea of someone “deserving” something is meaningless in my moral system (utilitarianism). Someone should die if and only if they’re life is too miserable to be worth living and they can expect things to stay that way. I don’t find it plausible that most men who are far from meeting your standard fall into this category.

You need to think carefully about which of your instincts make sense and which don’t. Does being afraid to approach strangers make sense? No, and you overcame that. Doing traditionally masculine things might make sense if you feel happier that way, but don’t get religious about it. Carl Sagan: Better the hard truth, than the comforting fantasy.

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I agree with number 2. However, I disagree with the perception of the extent of the problem.

There are plenty of men left in manual trades and with active lifestyles who don’t conform to the cunty, metro.MediaNorm.

Also, being a gym rat alone doesn’t make you tough.

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It’s seem very telling the author will not reply to any question about real life fighting experience.

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its not telling at all, he said nothing about wanting to fight or how he fucks people up in his weekends. being prepaired to defend yourself verbally and physically without being foolish about it is what a real man does.

paully, yes sparring and mat time are the best ways to prepare yourself for that situation, but your trying to tell me that lifting is conterproductive? get out of here. being stronger then a man you are facing off with is always an advantage. especially as 95% of men have never sparred.

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“paully, yes sparring and mat time are the best ways to prepare yourself for that situation, but your trying to tell me that lifting is conterproductive? get out of here. being stronger then a man you are facing off with is always an advantage. especially as 95% of men have never sparred.”

i never said it was counter productive. lifting 3 sets of 10 of a different muscle groups isn’t any more effective for fighting or self-defense than, say, running or circuit work. the latter might even be more effective, considering how quickly people gas during confrontation, or if you need to run away.

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And finally, philosophically, you are continuously and apparently unconsciously commiting what is called *the naturalistic fallacy* – you seem to think that just because we have genes that help us get laid, we should adopt that as our only *purpose* in life. But life or nature has no *purpose* – the genes that help us get laid survived merely because they helped us get laid and thus were ABLE to survive. Its a kind of tautology. The whole process is entirely impersonal and without consciousness and doesnt imply any kind of *purpose* that we should now adopt consciously.

Solid point.

Something that’s never addressed by the game community.

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Very, very few men have actually been tested (like in combat) so by your definition there are almost no real men. A boxing match (while good training) isn’t the same as getting shot at.

By your definition most of the real men in the world are either special forces (get laid easily) or gangsters.

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Your points are flawed. I just came back from happy-endings trip to Russia, where pretty much all the women are hot. It’s not hard to get laid there. There are a lot of losers there who can get laid at will (to any assortment of hot women). Likewise, you can take karate classes, go to shooting range, etc. To both, the question follows, “so what?”