Bad Girl Game: “I Like To Move Slow”

Previously: Transparency

I never tell a girl that my average bang happens on date 1.1. Instead I run normal game and break down the resistance like a merciless Israeli commando fighter. If I were to tell a girl on the first date “I like to move fast” then I’ve shown all my cards. Her pussy shield will increase and make my glorious sex goal that much more difficult.

BOPESo why do girls make verbal declarations of their desire to go slow? If I’m proceeding in a seduction and she is resisting, I don’t mind because it’s part of the game, but when she tells me she likes going slow on the first date I’m forced to do an immediate cost-benefit analysis to see if she’s worth investing one more minute of time into. On the other hand, if she went slow anyway without saying it then I would have no preconceptions and the psychology of previous investment would keep me chasing well after I had originally planned.

It happened the other week when this girl knew I was going to Ethiopia soon to volunteer at a crumbling orphanage. She told me she wanted to move slow and I just laughed it off but she meant it as I would soon find out and I wondered why she was out on a date with me if that was the case. It’s rude to lead on a man like that.

Since no value is conveyed when a girl says the line, I’m forced to believe that girls are too lazy to stop and think about game like a superior man would. Next time a girl criticizes a man’s lines, just remind them of theirs, like this one that I still hear: I don’t usually do this.

Yeah…

:hump:

I don’t…

:hump:

either.

:bukkake:

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– Well, normally I don’t give out my number, but…

– I don’t do anal.

– (after no reciprocity) But we just met and I don’t know you that well.

– But I can’t leave my friends.

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The goal of the girl’s line is to reflate a girl’s ego and/or “good-girl” image, not to give you information. There is no similar emotional rationale for your “I like to move fast.”

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it’s only after a girl hits menopause and is saddled with saggy tits etc. that she discovers superior man logic ala “The Real Housewives of fill in the blank.”

Until then, she wisely relies on her unearned T & A to get her through.

Only fugs have brains and use logic. Attractive ones are empty…thus…susceptible to Game

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So, just for sport of the question, what happens if the girl brings up she likes to move fast, before you say anything about it, do you just hop on it right there, or now think she is running some reverse-game “I’m a slut beware my forwardness and STD ridden gash” and forced to re-calibrate on the spot? Or maybe this question has no relevance because I just said “STD ridden gash.”

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Dude you need to start upping your game a little. You’re still using game 1.0 and there’s just so much more out there that’s so much easier. If you frame her with sexual same night lay frames you won’t get this type of resistance and can move things much faster. Say things like, “all of my previous relationships started passionately” and “I can tell that you’re generally a pretty good girl but when you’re around a guy that you really like you get really aggressive and go after what you want.”

You can also negatively frame waiting by telling her things like how unattractive you find self denial and how you like people who are non judgmental and don’t really care about what people think.

The 5 primary sexual frames that you have to set for both of you are:
1. Responsible
2. Independent
3. Good at keeping secrets
4. Sexually Aggressive
5. Non-Judgmental

Cold read her or neg her into those frames early in your interaction or date and you’ll have a lot less resistance.

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Good advice from Hammer. Re-framing is a great move.

“but when she tells me she likes going slow on the first date I’m forced to do an immediate cost-benefit analysis to see if she’s worth investing one more minute of time into.”

When girls say “they like to go slow” they are using that as a test.

Don’t take what girls say at face value.

I have often found (through an extensive case study) that when a girl comes over to my crib and says “But we aren’t going to sleep together tonight” they end up doing it. In fact, when they say that, it is all but guaranteed.

For a girl it gives them a defense mechanism, and when you do sleep with them it makes it seem completely out of the ordinary that they did. So you don’t think they are “easy”.

It is all part of The Game.

If you listen to what girls say you would probably take their fashion advice and start wearing designer jeans, spiking your hair and wearing glittery Ed Hardy shirts like some nonce.

I repeat: Don’t take what girls say at face value.

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G Manifesto and Hammer,

You guys are precisely what Ive been thinking about when Ive mentioned that “Game will evolve and become even more devastating”.

Men are infinitely more creative than women (notice how almost all the great artists are men), and now that they are collectively putting their minds on seduction in an organized form, sharing their information, fashion-status-fad-obsessed-non-reading-females stand very little chance against it. Young pretty girls who have never had to try in life stand about as much chance as a first-time-car-buying-16-year-old-WITHOUT-his-dad on a car lot. He’s gonna get screwed.

Personal note: Some of the game techniques Ive read about online are so good, so psychologically perfectly calculated, that its hard for me to believe that they didn’t origninate from some guys who are psychologists professionally who are into game on the down low.

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Bullshit. You think snappy patter silences a bimbo, and they suddenly spread when “topped” by Don Rickles Quipster Jr.

Wrong. hbs turn into Banter Bimbos ala an episode of Cheers

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YOU GUYS ARE FUCKED. FUNNY. BUT FUCKED

WHEN I GIRL ANNOUNCES ON A DATE ‘ I WANT TO GO SLOW’ YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH GAURANTEE WHAT SHE REALLY MEANT WAS ‘I JUST REALISED YOUR A COMPLETE TOOL WHO PROBABLY SPENDS HIS TIME WRITING BLOGS ABOUT NOT GETTING LAID’

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lol at above roosh-hate.

Yeah, Hammer’s right, sexual framing can go a long way towards preventing this bullshit–check with Captain Jack for that (pretty sure that’s where Hammer’s getting this, too)…

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Rosshv, gotta agree witht eh other cohorts here, this was a shit test. Girls love to say that because they “don’t want to be seen as a slut” because they’ve just realized that, while they’ve been doing every cock within a 5 mile radius upon 5 minutes of meeting them for the past 5 years, this activity is “slutty.”

Next time go, “Not tonight, you don’t.” And wink.

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“I don’t usually do this”

Hilarious and so common. Who am I, Brad Pitt??

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R I was going to Ethiopia soon to volunteer at a crumbling orphanage

I am so angry that you are going to Ethiopia to spread your hoism amongst my sisters. In all likelihood if you do get some, it will be from a woman of the night.
FYI- Many of my sisters don’t speak English well and I doubt that you speak Amharic , Tigrigna or Oromo so good look communicating.

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I speak some Amharic.

And if your non-verbal Game is tight enough, language is just a speed bump for the up and coming International Playboy on the Rise.

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Roosh

“No one ever comments on my photos”

Ha. I thought it was dope.

People comment on mine, but then again, mine usually look like this:

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Very often it’s only a shit test. They don’t really mean it. If they do, either they’re attention whores, or they have real issues with intimacy and commitment.

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One who blogs so much about getting laid clearly isn’t getting laid.

DoocheV

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get rid of that horrible photo on the header. you look ridiculous, plus that filter you applied to the photo is making this site look only worse. cmon now.

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Gostei…faca na caveira! tropa de elite…osso duro de roer.

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I must say…I like the B.O.P.E picture….but it doesnt match with the fact you mentions and israeli commando

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i just did a little wiki. BOPE is badass.

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This is….tiring.

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Props to #5 Hammer. The non-judgement part is absolutely spot on accurate. If you show a slut you are non-judgmental, she is much more comfortable in being a slut with you.

In fact, a slut has a twisted sense of morality. It cuts across all the lines of who she is and this is a way to allow her to be herself. She’s in a vicious cycle of being a slut because she has no self-control. All you have to do is allow her to keep cycling.

Feeding her another drink and making jokes and showing how happy you are with her will do just fine.

As G, Roissy and many others have said, ignore what they say and watch what they do. And for a slut, it’s all in the doing. All you have to do is go with the flow, she’ll do the rest.

And remember, you are just a prop. Sluts are in it for themselves. So don’t caught up in some off track drama in a conversation. It’s useless and unnecessary.

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my comment was aimed at #7

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When I saw the title of this post I immediately thought, “A girl who says she likes to take things slow is stupid and unsexy. Saying that is too obvious and kills the mood and chemistry! She should just SHOW it through her actions over time if it’s such a big deal.” Sounds like you thought similarly maybe… cool maybe I’m getting it 🙂

If someone has to say they are something, often that means they aren’t it. If they are something it’s probably self-evident immediately or over time through their ACTIONS.

All the lines people mentioned also make a girl just seem so obvious and kind of needy/desperate right… like she knows she is doing something uncool/wrong and has to try to justify it (failll lol).

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Your brain has become warped with too much game if you don’t understand this. She told you she likes to go slow BECAUSE SHE IS NOT A WHORE! Yes, believe it or not, not all women want to bang you right away. There are actually some women (and even men!) that care about social relationships beyond just using people like kleenexes. Her telling you this was the opposite of game. It’s so bloody obvious.

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Uh 28 no. She is saying that so you don’t look at and treat her like a slut as she is disrobing. She just wants you to think she doesn’t do that and may be trying to deprogram her inner slut by saying it out loud.

A girl who is not a slut doesn’t need to say anything about going slow and not getting into bed because her actions speak for her.

As always.

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Tropa de elite is pretty good, but for brazilian flicks “Meu nome nao e johnny” and “Carandiru” were both much better in my opinion.

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29 is right. If you aren’t a slut you don’t have to say it

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I took a sociology class in college where I learned that something like 90%+ of people end up with a partner of about the same level of physical attractiveness. There’s a reason for this, and it’s no fluke. Roosh is an ugly guy, so, unless proven otherwise, I have a hard time believing he pulls good-looking girls. Further, assuming it takes 1,000 hours of study and practice to get one’s game tight enough to comfortably approach 5’s and 6’s—-and assuming the average reader of this blog makes $20/hour (which is probably a conservative estimate)—would it not make more sense to just spend $5,000 on a rhinoplasty or chin implant, the remaining 15 g’s on upgrades to your car, and have the hot-looking girls approach you? It seems like a far-better return on investment, with far-less work… After all, the goal of our existence from an evolutionary-biological standpoint is to get our seed into the best-possible candidate of the opposite sex. So, on this blog the goal seems to be to trick a girl we wouldn’t normally be able to get into letting us put our dicks inside he–using words and actions as the tool. The effectiveness of this is questionable, at best. So, if we’re trying to trick them anyhow, why not just cut right to it, and trick them outright with a more-attractive nose or chin…

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funny thing roosh, despite all the whining about the absence of non slutty girls in your experiences, and how you have no respect for any women anymore, and blah blah blah; you either deride or disregard any one of the (apparently) quite a few girls who don’t spread their legs for you quick enough. In this case you insult words that ended up being the straight truth from what seems to have been one of those supposedly non existent non slutty girls, and then shrug her rejection off as silly lazy nonsense… funny stuff.

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