Bad Girl Game: Transparency

It was a Sunday afternoon when I was leaving the house of a girl I met the previous night. We didn’t have sex. On my way out I suggested that we grab a drink some time. She said, “Oh, I’m a very busy girl though.”

“Mmhmm that’s cool. When is the next night you are free then?” I asked.

“Well I’m not doing anything later.”

“Tonight? No I can’t. It’s family night… my dad cooks a feast every Sunday. How about Tuesday?”

“Umm Tuesday let me think. Yeah I guess I can do Tuesday,” she said, in a tone that made it sound like she was doing me a favor.

On Monday night I sent her a text message asking if we were still good for Tuesday night. She said, “Sure, or Wednesday too if that’s better for you.”

So the self-described “busy” girl was free on three of four subsequent nights. If you’re going to play the game, then play it right. Otherwise you look like an idiot.

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a_c
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I’m not sure why girls do this, in fact. Are they keeping their schedule clear just in case, or do they really think that acting unavailable will make us more interested?

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todd h.
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their version of Bang (the rules?) or maybe cosmo tells them to do that

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Heh, she did not play that game well, which is a good thing in a way. It’s really annoying when girls play the busy game. Ok, I get it; you don’t want to come across as being too available or desperate.

A girl’s playing the busy game with me right now. It’s not making me want to see her more.

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flakesters abound. *sigh*

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Not to be too Pollyanna-ish, but maybe she fucked-up bc she’s attracted.

Male AFCs increasingly err the more they like the female.

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If this is an Amerian chick then say something along the lines of “Cut the crap or I´ll kiil you, bitch!” American women get turned on by thugs and thug behavior, they will never admit it but the evidence is piling up when you see, based on female behavior, what type of men they gravitate to. A guy who is willing to beat the crap out of a chick who plays this game will never see her behave this way. Fucked up I know.

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Roosh,

I think she out-Gamed you (although, we agree she did a terrible job of it).

“On my way out I suggested that we grab a drink some time. She said, “Oh, I’m a very busy girl though.”

Right there she is playing the “Busy Game”. You should have called her on this.

A great response would have been: “Perfect. I am super Busy too. I will see you down the road..”

You should have taken control back with being aloof, this drives girls crazy, she would probably call you the next night.

Its very rare that girls run into solid “Aloof Game” because most guys are so desperate.

When you responded: “Mmhmm that’s cool. When is the next night you are free then?” I asked.

You just played into her mindless gameplan.

If a girl is going to play the “Busy Game”, play it back twice as hard…

– MPM

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It’s something I’ve learned to expect from American chicks.

Reason #451 to move to non-American country and date non-American girls.

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a_c–the reason is simple. Girls don’t play games like this, or engage in any shit tests of any sort, to make a guy more interested. They do it to trip the guy up, put him on the spot and see how he will react. The ones that have grace under pressure are the alphas–they will get returned phone calls and access to the vagine. The ones that don’t have grace get tossed aside, and the girl believes she has just dodged a bullet by preventing a lesser man’s sperm from sullying her uterine tract.

How to pass the test and get the sex? G manifesto nailed it. The alpha doesn’t get mad nor desperate. He remains aloof and just doesn’t give a shit.

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i’ll grant that roosh seems to pursue a little too much here…the aloofness of G would work well.

but the girl did tell roosh she was free the same night, so she wasn’t trying to be too coy.

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Don’t you have to be somewhat coherent to play girl bang “rules” game?
This girl could only get out the first part of the busy “rules” game out. But she couldn’t even put Roosh on hold for a day. That’s completely lame.

She offers him every bloody day on the sequential calendar.

Hate to say it but this girl does not sound too bright. She can’t even stop herself from tripping over her own “busy” game.

Then again, I had a girl try to setup a Saturday date on our Friday date. And she flaked so hard the next day, well it’s not even worth going into.

But that girl was 100% game, every freaking minute of her life. Her ego was so big that months later after we were suppose to get back together she sent an email pretending she was still out of the country.

And for Rooh’s benefit, this girl was from Brazil and not in the US long enough to be picking up US garbage. She was running her own little nonsense of a game.

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Game can’t be all indications of disinterest.

Yes, it’s crucial for a man to demonstrate he has high value and to approach his interactions with women from a position of self-respect, but if a guy acts like he has sky-high value and the girl none, the girl will just leave.

Too much aloofness and indifference no longer just suggests that you have value and options as a man – at some point it suggests that you simply don’t value the girl at all.

And girls are not turned by THAT.

Game is about balance – girls like to interact with a non-needy man who places high value on himself, but there is such a thing as too much game.

No high-quality girl will put with a continual devaluing of her self. A low quality girl might, but not a high quality one.

Game is great, indeed crucial, but people sometimes take it too far.

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“On my way out I suggested that we grab a drink some time.”

and…

““Mmhmm that’s cool. When is the next night you are free then?” I asked.”

Am I missing something? I thought PUAs say you’re not supposed to be pinning a girl down for a next date at the end of your current date. Yet you did it twice here?

I thought G’s response was perfect.

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Haha, funny ass post

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If a girl games you she deserves to be gamed back.
G’s line is perfect, has worked for me too. Just have a warm smile in your face when you do it and she’s yours.

Gotta look context though. Why didn’t have sex with her that night?

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Yes, in the Rules it does advocate seeming like you are very busy (they say it’s better to actually be busy BUT still make time for a date 3 days in the future, preferably on a Saturday – the most important day for serious dating towards marriage).

Her “game” wasn’t very good; she tried to use her words to seem busy but her ACTIONS showed she is not. (I think that’s what happened at least?)

I talked a little about how “busy game” by girls (even guys) is not cool any more past the 1990s when the Rules were written: http://lovelysexybeauty.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/being-%e2%80%9cbusy%e2%80%9d-not-so-cool-any-more/

Also, I think not seeing someone again very quickly after a date in the old days was more about pacing so the guy doesn’t get sick of you, you don’t attached to him quicker than he is to you (e.g., girls who think going on 2 dates makes a guy her boyfriend), and also so you don’t take things too fast in general and then crash; hence the excuse of being “busy” which is being misinterpreted nowadays, I’m thinking.

We all carve out time for what’s important, like dating someone we are attracted to. One of the only Rules that stands the test of time and societal change is keeping some mystery about yourself (mystery is sexy); and verbalizing you’re busy but then being available after all is WEIRD like you said. You saw right through it, lol

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By the way all my comments about Girl Game aka Marriage Game, not about PUA Game aka Sleep With Her Quickly Game. wink

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hey lsb – i just wasted time on my sunday moanin hangover to post on your blogette.

wtf is up with your restrictive posting rules.

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to me it sounded like you were being too available to a girl who wanted some play time, still you set up the dates but that is just superficial, she was in control of your willingness to meet her again.

I would have gone G’s way, it works for me all the time, i never let a chick believe i make time for them in spite of everything. I make it sound like an effort to meet them…next thing is they are “free” everytime i say.

Women are primitive and complex at the same time (same but in opposite sense for us males).

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Dude i feel like this post is just unnecessary. What is the point of pointing out the flaw in individual girls’s game to an audience? Who does that help? I always felt your blog was at its best when it tried to show what most guys with out game think and ways of changing the bad behavior to a better one. Not that is was some self-improvement blog, but it gave something to identify with and then ways to change it. You also give hilarious stories at times. But bitching about girls behavior and pointing out bad game in others just seems very base and unproductive. I mean I’m sure you started try to get good at the game to fuck girls. Now you just post on your blog when a girl fucks up in some meaningless way. Why?

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It’s pretty annoying when girls give me IOIs but then play the busy game. Sure, sometimes people are genuinely busy, but most people can clear a couple of hours of their time within the next few days.

I’m not looking to marry you or move in together girl; just spend a couple of enjoyable hours with me.

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whenever some girl tries to “game” me like that, i just tell ’em to shit or get off the pot

life is too short, and there is such a thing as overgaming…