Bitter Jaded Man

“What is flirtation? One might say that it is behavior leading another to believe that sexual intimacy is possible, while preventing that possibility from becoming a certainty. In other words, flirting is a promise of sexual intercourse without a guarantee.”
The Unbearable Lightness Of Being

I’m on a curly hair kick right now. When a cute curly-haired girl looked at me and smiled I was over in a flash.

“Hi!!!!” I said.

She pretended she was a tough smart ass when I could tell she was much more vulnerable. I like girls who wear their emotions on their sleeve because it’s only through emotions that real connections can be made.

As luck would have it, a tall blonde I talked to earlier wouldn’t stop looking over at me. Curly hair noticed this and said that if I really wanted to go talk to her I could and she’d leave us alone. I laughed it off. There’s game to tell a girl you are desirable and then there is another girl staring at your junk to tell a girl you are desirable. One is more powerful than the other.

About a half-hour into our courtship I made a comment along the lines of “I guess we’re going to have to hang out sometime soon.” She didn’t object to that statement. I think I would date her if it came down to that, and if she was reading this now I doubt she’d deny there was something there besides alcohol and dim lighting. It’s rare that I care about meeting a girl these days.

Her friends were leaving. She wasn’t ready to be kissed. I asked her where she lives as I reached for my cell phone in my pocket.

“Richmond.”

“Wait, where?” I asked.

“Richmond, Virginia.”

“When are you going back?”

She looked at her watch. “In about 10 hours.”

“That information could have been useful to me an hour ago!”

“Oh so you wouldn’t have talked to me then?”

I glanced away, unwittingly giving her my answer.

It was a Friday night and the bar was about to close. There was nothing more to do. The night was done.

But I was cool. Only when you cross certain bridges can you allow a girl to make you feel emotions such as anger, frustration, or even regret. A kiss is the first bridge and sex would be the next. If you let girls affect you before you got what you wanted then I imagine you would turn into a very bitter, jaded man. Those are not attractive qualities.

Related Posts For You

newest oldest most voted
Amir
Guest
Amir
Offline

“If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you…”

I recite that poem to myself every day now, especially if I start to get down. It does wonders. I always get to a line which applies to a relevant predicament. And I always smile to myself at the end when I shout out:

“And, which is more, you’ll be a Man, my son!”

The G Manifesto
Guest

“I asked her where she lives as I reached for my cell phone in my pocket.”

Always deal with this early in the conversation.

Knowing where someone lives is a great qualifier and tells a lot about someone.

ie If she said “I grew up in Georgetown overlooking the river, The Coolidge’s were my next door neighbor….”

says different things than

“I live in Richmond, my dad is a manager at the now bankrupt Circuit City there”

I like to know this info early. Also, it lets you know if you are wasting your time and what kind of percentages you are dealing with on swooping.

“Information”. The world’s greatest Commodity.

Or is that “Time”?

– MPM

The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Chris Paciello Back in Action in Los Angeles.

roissy
Guest
roissy
Offline

Always deal with this early in the conversation.

yeah, i don’t rely on chicks to be honest or to show good character. if they can get a free conversation and attention fix off of you, they will. if you experience enough of their duplicity, you will eventually become jaded and bitter. that’s why leading them to the answers and information you want is good for staying sane when dealing with women.

nice kundera quote. i ordered the book today.

roissy’s last blog post: October 2008 Comment Winner.

adrock
Guest
adrock
Offline

I’m 28. When I was a younger man, looking for more same night bangs, I would’ve totally agreed with you. Nothing worse than a girl who wants your attention all night by holding back a key piece of information that she knows would spoil her attention getting scheme. Living far away being a great example.

However, a year or so back I was in the same situation you mentioned above. An intelligent and beautiful girl (long curly hair, LARGE breasts and previously a collegiate volleyball player still in mid-season shape). But, instead of Richmond, it was upstate NY. There was ample chemistry, so we wound up exchanging numbers. About two weeks later I started getting a couple of texts from her. Just passive things like, “Work is so boring today”. I told her to shoot me her email address and we exchanged a few emails over the course of the next month or two (can’t remember the full time frame). Anyway, at some point I casually mentioned that she needs to get back down to dc. She was all for it. She made the 8 hour drive, we went to a bar for a light bite and a few beers and ended the night early at my place. Cost for the notch was less than $25 and some time spent emailing an fun girl.

“In other words, flirting is a promise of sexual intercourse without a guarantee.” If you believe this, why let a few hundred miles kill your game?

adrock
Guest
adrock
Offline

Hmmm, I guess the real key is being able to determine their level of attraction. Are they just seeking to make themselves feel desired, or are they truly attracted. I haven’t done much reading in the PUA community, but I think the word is kino (?) that they use to describe how interested a girl is? Some one correct me if I’m wrong here.

In my case above, there was some solid making out and a few venue changes the night we met. So to be fair, the attraction was substantially more built up in my example above. But, again, I still say that some long distance text/email game doesn’t waste much time, energy or money and could keep doors open in the future.

Anonymous
Guest
Anonymous
Offline

She wasted your time, and what made it worse was that she knew she was the entire time you were chatting with her. That’s just plain rude and she didn’t give a shit about how she came across to you after admitting it. She got what she wanted.

There’s nothing more uncomfortable for a woman than being out and no one paying attention to her.

Jack Goes Forth
Guest

send me her information. I’ll take over the courtship from this point on. 🙂

Jack Goes Forth’s last blog post: Save Richmond Hearts Jack.

z
Guest
z
Offline

Roosh wrote:

“If you let girls affect you before you got what you wanted then I imagine you would turn into a very bitter, jaded man. ”

So true, so true. I suppose, no matter how much a man is impressed and “naturally likes” a woman in the field, until they have been together romantically and passionately, he needs to force himself to see her as ‘just pussy’. A man who gets her to commit emotionally first is just protecting himself, becuase none of us are without feelings, and indeed I think men are the more romantic of the sexes, willing to work and build a life for a women and the children that he obtains through her. All she has to do is get fucked.

CC
Guest
CC
Offline

What happened with the tall blonde?

virgle kent
Guest

This is why I like to get the number earlier on and dip the fuck out back to home base with my boys. No way a woman is worth 2 hours of time, unless she’s given you signs she’s willing to let you hit….

I don’t know something subtle like grabbing my dick…. just saying

namaste
Guest
namaste
Offline

You’re so Kundera. Nice quote.

namaste’s last blog post: We Are E-Harmony….

Eurosabra
Guest
Eurosabra
Offline

That was my entire social life for about 10 years, rewarding attention-whoring and getting nothing for it. In fact, “getting nothing” is a misnomer because according to ChickLogic and feminazi doctrine, no one owes anyone anything, even the polite non-wastage of your time. (I suppose I could find women interesting enough NOT to care about a sexless life.) How do you avoid getting bitter and jaded without “tuning out” to the point of sociopathic indifference? This is the female version of “plowing”, they let you carry on despite the fact that you’ve reached “hook point” without attraction, to use the MM terminology. Short of rape, how do you deter this behavior? (Don’t tell me “Get attraction first.” If I could do that, I wouldn’t be here and wouldn’t be reading _Bang_.)

Approaching was never the problem. Attraction is the challenge.

Generate
Guest
Generate
Offline

Ok, I know the blog is about game. But usually, if she’s not attracted to you, she’ll let you spit (for her attention fix) and then dart when it’s time to take it further (number, make-out, grind, take-off). It doesn’t usually matter how tight your game is, because if there’s no initial attraction (see vibe) she can get some guy she is attracted to or call any of her exes, guy “friends” etc. later that night for sex.

If she’s attracted to you from the get-go, it takes a “fuck-up” move to….eh….fuck-up.

As for the whole thing about not giving a fuck- I agree conceptually. The problem is that if you’re running game to a girl who’s feeling you, and you over-emphasis your apparent disinterest (or super coolness) she usually walks because you’re not making her feel good. Women want to be with (fuck) men that make them feel SOMETHING – e.g. desired, slutty, powerful, dominated etc.

The G Manifesto
Guest

“Approaching was never the problem. Attraction is the challenge.”

Wear custom suits, get in shape, smoke cigarettes, carry a dope lighter, have a natural sense of humor, have a working knowledge of all things “cool”, travel and smile.

Be the G.

Or carry E-Tabs and Blow.

– MPM

The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Wale disses Ed Hardy.

The G Manifesto
Guest

“The problem is that if you’re running game to a girl who’s feeling you, and you over-emphasis your apparent disinterest (or super coolness) she usually walks because you’re not making her feel good.”

That isn’t tight Game then.

Gas and clutch. Intermix disinterest with interest. (preferably disinterest with the wack topics of convo and interest with the dope ones)

The Problem with modern day Pick up Artist theory is it is not fluid or agile.

Be human. Be natural. Be funny.

Don’t be robotic, unnatural, and over the top “cool guy”.

Be fun. And again, smoking and dressing sharp do wonders.

– MPM

The G Manifesto’s last blog post: Wale disses Ed Hardy.

Anonymous
Guest
Anonymous
Offline

“True she did, but there wasn’t anything else i was interested in.” – Roosh

So you took a shot and got played a little. Big deal. It’s better than standing around staring at random women like a wallflower beta.

My boys and I used to hit a half a dozen bars in DC on a Saturday night and wouldn’t hesitate to leave if there was no talent to be had. We wouldn’t even bother stopping for a drink if the scene was a sausage-fest. Walk in, scan the room, and walk out. If one of us knew the door guy, we’d ask him to give us a quick call/text if talent started to come in the door (occasionally we would make a little donation to ensure this happened). Worked like a charm, particularly if there was a line to get in the door (usually filled with dudes).

Seeing as you’re a bartender, this quote from the movie Cocktail seems apt:

“Little Darlings come in, hearts pitter-pattering for the handsome, all knowing bartender. And in their wake, a parade of slobbering geeks with one hand on their crotch and the other on their wallets. Buttons were popping, skirts were rising. When you can see the color of their panties then you KNOW you’ve got talent. And boy oh boy have you got it. Stick with me son and I’ll make you a star.”

James The Professional Adventurer
Guest

Man Richmond girls, I lived there for 2 years, bringing back old memories

That’s one of the things I like the most about living overseas, the women are 1000% cooler and approachable