Cultural Collapse Theory

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It was Joe’s first date with Mary. He asked her what she wanted in life and she replied, “I want to establish my career. That’s the most important thing to me right now.” Undeterred that she had no need for a man in her life, Joe entertained her with enough funny stories and cocky statements that she soon allowed him to lightly pet her forearm.

At the end of the date, he locked arms with her on the walk to the subway station, when two Middle Eastern men on scooter patrol accosted them and said they were forbidden to touch. “This is Sharia zone,” they said in heavily accented English, in front of a Halal butcher shop. Joe and Mary felt bad that they offended the two men, because they were trained in school to respect all religions but that of their ancestors. One of the first things they learned was that their white skin gave them extra privilege in life which must be consciously restrained at all times. Even if they happened to disagree with the two men, they could not verbally object because of anti-hate laws that would put them in jail for religious discrimination. They unlocked arms and maintained a distance of three feet from each other.

Unfortunately for Joe, Mary did not want to go out with him again, but seven years later he did receive a message from her on Facebook saying hello. She became vice president of a company, but could not find a man equal to her station since women now made 25% more than men on average. Joe had long left the country and moved to Thailand, where he married a young Thai girl and had three children. He had no plans on returning to his country, America.

If cultural collapse occurs in the way I will now describe, the above scenario will be the rule within a few decades. The Western world is being colonized in reverse, not by weapons or hard power, but through a combination of progressivism and low reproductive rates. These two factors will lead to a complete cultural collapse of many Western nations within the next 200 years. This theory will show the most likely mechanism that it will proceed in America, Canada, UK, Scandinavia, and Western Europe.

What Is A Cultural Collapse?

Cultural collapse is the decline, decay, or disappearance of a native population’s rituals, habits, interpersonal communication, relationships, art, and language. It coincides with a relative decline of population compared to outside groups. National identity and group identification will be lost while revisionist history will be applied to demonize or find fault with the native population. Cultural collapse is not to be confused with economic or state collapse. A nation that suffers from a cultural collapse can still be economically productive and have a working government.

First I will share a brief summary of the cultural collapse progression before explaining them in more detail. Then I will discuss where I see many countries along its path.

The Cultural Collapse Progression

1. Removal of religious narrative from people’s lives, replaced by a treadmill of scientific and technological “progress.”

2. Elimination of traditional sex roles through feminism, gender equality, political correctness, cultural Marxism, and socialism.

3. Delay or abstainment of family formation by women to pursue careerist lifestyles while men wait in confused limbo.

4. Decreasing birth rate among native population.

5. Government enactment of open immigration policies to prevent economic collapse.

6. Immigrant refusal to fully acclimate, forcing host culture to adopt external rituals and beliefs while being out-reproduced.

7. Natives becoming marginalized in their own country.

1. Removal of religious narrative

Religion has been a powerful restraint for millennia in preventing humans from pursuing their base desires and narcissistic tendencies so that they satisfy a god. Family formation is the central unit of most religions, possibly because children increase membership at zero marginal cost to the church (i.e. they don’t need to be recruited).

Religion may promote scientific ignorance, but it facilitates reproduction by giving people a narrative that places family near the center of their existence.[1] [2] [3] After the Enlightenment, the rapid advance of science and its logical but nihilistic explanations into the universe have removed the religious narrative and replaced it with an empty narrative of scientific progress, knowledge, and technology, which act as a restraint and hindrance to family formation, allowing people to pursue individual goals of wealth accumulation or hedonistic pleasure seeking.[4] As of now, there has not been a single non-religious population that has been able to reproduce above the death rate.[5]

Even though many people today claim to believe in god, they may not step inside a church but once or twice a year for special holidays. Religion went from being a lifestyle, a manual for living, to something that is thought about in passing.

2. Elimination of traditional sex roles

Once religion no longer plays a role in people’s lives, the stage is set to fracture male-female bonding. It is collectively attacked by several ideologies stemming from the beliefs of Cultural Marxist theory, which serve to accomplish one common end: destruction of the family unit so that citizens are dependent on the state. They achieve this goal through the marginalization of men and their role in society under the banner of “equality.”[6] With feminism pushed to the forefront of this umbrella movement, the drive for equality ends up being a power grab by women.[7] This attack is performed on a range of fronts:

  • medicating boys from a young age with ADHD drugs to eradicate displays of masculinity[8]
  • shaming of men for having direct sexual interest in attractive and fertile women
  • criminalization of normal male behavior by redefining some instances of consensual sex as rape[9]
  • imprisonment of unemployed fathers for non-payment of child support, rendering them destitute and unable to be a part of their children’s lives[10]
  • taxation of men at higher rates for redistribution to women[11] [12]
  • promotion of single mother and homosexual lifestyles over that of the nuclear family[13] [14]

The end result is that men, confused about their identify and averse to state punishment from sexual harassment, “date rape,” and divorce proceedings, make a rational decision to wait on the sidelines.[15] Women, still not happy with the increased power given to them, continue their assault on men by instructing them to “man up” into what has become an unfair deal—marriage. The elevation of women above men is allowed by corporations, which adopt “girl power” marketing to expand their consumer base and increase profits.[16] [17] Governments also allow it because it increases their tax revenue. Because there is money to be made with women working and becoming consumers, there is no effort by the elite to halt this development.

3. Women begin to place career above family

At the same time men are emasculated as mere “sperm donors,” women are encouraged to adopt the career goals, mannerisms, and competitive lifestyles of men, inevitably causing them to delay marriage, often into an age where they can no longer find suitable husbands who have more resources than themselves. [18] [19] [20] [21] The average woman will find it exceedingly difficult to balance career and family, and since she has no concern of getting “fired” from her family, who she may see as a hindrance to her career goals, she will devote an increasing proportion of time into her job.

Female income, in aggregate, will soon match or exceed that of men.[22] [23] [24] A key reason that women historically got married was to be economically provided for, but this reason will no longer persist and women will feel less pressure or motivation to marry. The burgeoning spinster population will simply be a money-making opportunity for corporations to market to an increasing population of lonely women. Cat and small dog sales will rise.

Women succumb to their primal sexual and materialistic urges to live the “Sex and the City” lifestyle full of fine dining, casual sex, technological bliss, and general gluttony without learning traditional household skills or feminine qualities that would make them attractive wives.[25] [26] Men adapt to careerist women in a rational way by doing the following:

  • to sate their natural sexual desires, men allow their income to lower since economic stability no longer provides a draw to women in their prime[27]
  • they mimic “alpha male” social behavior to get laid with women who, without having an urgent need for a man’s monetary resources to survive, can choose men based on confidence, aesthetics, and general entertainment value[28]
  • they withdraw into a world of video games and the internet, satisfying their own base desires for play and simulated hunting[29] [30]

Careerist women who decide to marry will do so in a hurried rush around 30 because they fear growing old alone, but since they are well past their fertility peak[31], they may find it difficult to reproduce. In the event of successful reproduction at such a later age, fewer children can be born before biological infertility, limiting family size compared to the historical past.

4. Birth rates decrease among native population

The stage is now set for the death rate to outstrip the birth rate. This creates a demographic cliff where there is a growing population of non-working elderly relative to able-bodied younger workers. Two problems result:

  • Not enough tax revenue is supplied by the working population in order to provide for the elderly’s medical and social retirement needs.[32] Borrowing can only temporarily maintain these entitlements.
  • Decrease of economic activity since more people are dying than buying.[33]

No modern nation has figured out how to substantially raise birth rates among native populations. The most successful effort has been done in France, but that has still kept the birth rate among French-born women just under the replacement rate (2.08 vs 2.1).[34] The easiest and fastest way to solve this double-edged problem is to promote mass immigration of non-elderly individuals who will work, spend, and procreate at rates greater than natives.[35]

A replenishing supply of births are necessary to create taxpayers, workers, entrepreneurs, and consumers in order to maintain the nation’s economic development.[36] While many claim that the planet is suffering from “overpopulation,” an economic collapse is inevitable for those countries who do not increase their population at steady rates.

5. Large influx of immigration

An aging population without youthful refilling will cause a scarcity of labor, increasing that labor’s price. Corporate elites will now lobby governments for immigration reform to relieve this upward pressure on wages.[37] [38] At the same time, the modern mantra of sustained GDP growth puts pressure on politicians for dissemination of favorable economic growth data to aid in their re-elections. The simplest way to increase GDP without innovation or development of industry is to expand the population. Both corporate and political elites now have their goals in alignment where the easiest solution becomes immigration.[39] [40]

While politicians hem and haw about designing permanent immigration policies, immigrants continue to settle within the nation.[41] The national birth rate problem is essentially solved overnight, as it’s much easier to drain third-world nations of its starry-eyed population with enticements of living in the first-world than it is to encourage the native women to reproduce. (Lateral immigration from one first-world nation to another is so relatively insignificant that the niche term ‘expatriation’ has been developed to describe it). Native women will show a stubborn resistance at any suggestion they should create families, much preferring a relatively responsibility-free lifestyle of sexual variety, casual internet dating via mobile apps, consumer excess, and comfortable high-paying jobs in air conditioned offices.[42] [43]

Immigrants will almost always come from societies that are more religious and, in the case of Islam with regard to European immigration, far more scientifically primitive and rigid in its customs.[44]

6. Sanitization of host culture coincides with increase in immigrant power

While many adult immigrants will feel gracious at the opportunity to live in a more prosperous nation, others will soon feel resentment that they are forced to work menial jobs in a country that is far more expensive than their own.[45] [46] [47] [48] [49] The majority of them remain in lower economic classes, living in poor “immigrant communities” where they can speak their own language, find their own homeland foods, and follow their own customs or religion.

Instead of breaking out of their foreigner communities, immigrants seek to expand it by organizing. They form local groups and civic organizations to teach natives better ways to understand and serve immigrant populations. They will be eager to publicize cases where immigrants have been insulted by insensitive natives or treated unfairly by police authorities in the case of petty crime.[50] [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] School curriculums may be changed to promote diversity or multiculturalism, at great expense to the native culture.[56] Concessions will be made not to offend immigrants.[57] A continual stream of outrages will be found and this will feed the power of the organizations and create a state within a state where native elites become fearful of applying laws to immigrants.[58]

7. Destruction of native culture

This step has not yet happened in any first-world nation, so I will predict it based on logically extending known events I have already described.

Local elites will give lip service to immigrant groups for votes but will be slow to give them real state or economic power. Citizenship rules may even be tightened to prevent immigrants from being elected. The elites will be mostly insulated from the cultural crises in their isolated communities, private schools, and social clubs, where they can continue to incubate their own sub-culture without outside influence. At the same time, they will make speeches and enact polices to force native citizens to accept multiculturalism and blind immigration. Anti-hate and anti-discrimination laws will be more vigorously enforced than other more serious crimes. Police will monitor social networking to identify those who make statements against protected classes.

Cultural decline begins in earnest when the natives feel shame or guilt for who they are, their history, their way of life, and where their ancestors came from. They will let immigrant groups criticize their customs without protest, or they simply embrace immigrant customs instead with religious conversion and interethnic marriages. Nationalistic pride will be condemned as a “far-right” phenomenon and popular nationalistic politicians will be compared to Hitler. Natives learn the art of self-censorship, limiting the range of their speech and expressions, and soon only the elderly can speak the truths of the cultural decline while a younger multiculturalist within earshot attributes such frankness to senility or racist nostalgia.

With the already entrenched environment of political correctness (see stage 2), the local culture becomes a sort of “world” culture that can be declared tolerant and progressive as long as there is a lack of criticism against immigrants, multiculturalism, and their combined influence. All cultural identity will eventually be lost, and to be “American” or “British,” for example, will no longer have modern meaning from a sociological perspective. Native traditions will be eradicated and a cultural mixing will take place where citizens from one world nation will be nearly identical in behavior, thought, and consumer tastes to citizens of another. Once a collapse occurs, it cannot be reversed. The nation’s cultural heritage will be forever lost.

I want to now take a brief look at six different countries and see where they are along the cultural collapse progression…

Russia

This is an interesting case because, up to recently, we saw very low birth rates not due to progressive ideals but from a rough transition to capitalism in the 1990’s and a high male mortality from alcoholism.[59] [60] To help sustain its population, Russia is readily accepting immigrants from Central Asian regions, treating them like second-class citizens and refusing to make any accommodations away from the ethnic Russian way of life. Even police authorities turn a blind eye when local skinhead groups attack immigrants.[61] In addition, Russia has also shown no tolerance to homosexual or progressive groups,[62] stunting their negative effects upon the culture. The birth rate has risen in recent years to levels seen in Western Europe but it’s still not above the death rate. Russia will see a population collapse before a cultural one.

Likelihood of 50-year cultural collapse: Very low

Brazil

We’re seeing rapid movement through stages 2 and 3, where progressive ideology based on the American model is becoming adopted and a large poor population ensure progressive politicians will continue to remain in power with promises of economic redistribution.[63] [64] [65] Within 15 years we should see a sharp drop in birth rates and a relaxation of immigration laws.

Likelihood of 50-year cultural collapse: Moderate

America

Some could argue that America is currently experiencing a cultural collapse. It always had a fragile culture because of its immigrant foundings, but immigrants of the past (including my own parents) rapidly acclimated into the host culture to create a sense of national pride around an ethic of hard work and shared democratic values. This is being eroded as a fem-centric culture rises in its place, with its focus on trends, celebrities, homosexuality, multiculturalism, and male-bashing. Natives have become pleasure seekers with little inclination to reproduction during their years of peak fertility.[66]

Likelihood of 50-year cultural collapse: Very high

England

While America always had high amounts of immigration, and therefore a system of integration, England is newer to the game. In the past 20 years, they have massively ramped up their immigration efforts.[67] A visit to London will confirm that the native British are slowly becoming minorities, with their iconic red telephone booths left undisturbed purely for tourist photo opportunities. Approximately 5% of the English population is now Muslim.[68] Instead of acclimatizing, they are achieving early success in creating zones with Sharia law.[69] The English elite, in response, is jailing natives under stringent anti-race laws.[70] England had a highly successful immigration story with Polish immigrants who eagerly acclimated to English culture, but have opened the doors to other peoples who don’t want to integrate.[71]

Likelihood of 50-year cultural collapse: Very high

Sweden

Sweden is experiencing a similar immigration situation to England, but they possess a higher amount of self-shame and white guilt. Instead of allowing immigrants who could work in the Swedish economy, they are encouraging migration of asylum seekers who have been made destitute by war. These immigrants enter Sweden and immediately receive social benefits. In effect, Sweden is welcoming the least economically productive people in the world.[72] The immigrants will produce little or no economic benefit, and may even worsen Sweden’s economy. Immigrants are turning some parts of Sweden, such as the Rosengard area of Malmo, into a ghetto.[73]

Likelihood of 50-year cultural collapse: Very high

Poland

From my one and half years of living in Poland, I have seen a moderate level of progressive ideological creep, careerism among women, hedonism, and idolation of Western values, particularly out of England, where a large percentage of the Polish population have emigrated for work. Younger Poles may not act much different from their Western counterparts in their party lifestyle behavior, but there nonetheless remains a tenuous maintenance of traditional sex roles. Women of fertile age are pursuing relationships over one-night stands, but careerism is causing them to stall family formation. This puts a downward pressure on birth rates, which stems from significant numbers of fertile young women emigrating to countries like the UK and USA, along with continued economic uncertainties faced from transitioning to capitalism[74]. As Europe’s “least multicultural” nation, Poland has long been hesitant to accept immigrants, but this has recently changed and they are encouraging migrants.[75]  To its credit, it is seeking first-world entrepreneurs instead of low skilled laborers or asylum seekers. Its cultural fate will be an interesting development in the years to come, but the prognosis will be more negative as long as its young people are eager to leave the homeland.

Likelihood of 50-year cultural collapse: Possible

Poland and Russia show the limitations of Cultural Collapse Theory in that it best applies to first-world nations with highly developed economies. They have low birth rates but not through the mechanism I described, though if they adopt a more Western ideological track like Brazil, I expect to see the same outcome that is befalling England or Sweden.

There can be many paths to cultural destruction, and those nations with the most similarities will gravitate towards the same path, just like how Eastern European nations are suffering low birth rates because of mass emigration due to being introduced into the European Union.

How To Stop Cultural Collapse

Maintaining native birth rates while preventing the elite from allowing immigrant labor is the most effective means at preventing cultural collapse. Since multiculturalism is an experiment with no proven efficacy, a culture can only be maintained by a relatively homogenous group who identify with each other. When that homogeneity breaks down and one citizen looks to the next and does not see a person with the same values as himself, the culture falls in dis-repair as native citizens begin to lose a shared means of communication and identity. Once the percentage of the immigrant population crosses a certain threshold (perhaps 15%), the decline will pick up in pace and cultural breakdown will be readily apparent to all observers.

Current policies to solve low birth rates through immigration is a short-term fix with dire long-term consequences. In effect, it’s a Trojan-horse prescription of irreversible cultural destruction. A state must prevent itself from entering the position where mass immigration is considered a solution by blocking progressive ideologies from taking hold. One way this can be done is through the promotion of a state-sponsored religion which encourages the nuclear family instead of single motherhood and homosexuality. However, introducing religion as a mainstay of citizen life in the post-enlightenment era may be impossible.

We must consider that the scientific era is an evolutionary maladaptive feature of humanity that natural selection will accordingly punish (i.e. those who are anti-religious and pro-science will simply breed less). It must also be considered that with religion in permanent decline, cultural collapse may be a certainty that eventually occurs in all developed nations. Religion, it may turn out, was evolutionary beneficial to the human race.

Another possible solution is to foster a patriarchal society where men serve as strong providers. If you encourage the development of successful men who possess indispensable skills and therefore resources that are lacked by females, there will be women below their station who want to marry and procreate with them, but if strong women are produced instead, marriage and procreation is unlikely to take place at levels above the death rate.

A gap between the sexes should always exist in the favor of men if procreation is to occur at high rates, or else you’ll have something similar to the situation in America where urban professional women cannot find “good men” to begin a family with (i.e., men who are significantly more financially successful than them). They instead remain single and barren, only used occasionally by cads for exciting casual sex.

One issue that I purposefully ignored is the effect of technology and consumerism on lowering birth rates. How much influence does video games, internet, and smartphones contribute to a birth decline? How much of an effect does Western-style consumerism have in delaying marriage? I suspect they have more of an amplification effect than being an outright cause. If a country is proceeding through the cultural collapse model, technology will simply hurry the collapse, but giving internet access to a traditionally religious group of people may not cause them to flip overnight. Research will have to be done in these areas to say for sure.

Conclusion

The first iteration of any theory is sure to create as many questions as answers, but I hope that by proposing this model, it becomes more clear why some cultures seem so quick to degrade while others display a sort of immunity. Some countries may be too far down the wrong path to be saved, but I hope the information presented gives concerned readers ideas on protecting their own culture by allowing them to connect how progressive ideologies that may seem innocent or benign on the surface can eventually lead to an outright collapse of their nation’s culture.[culturewar]


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Joe
Joe
6 years ago

So Roosh
What’s the answer for younger men (below 35) in America?

Людмил Иванов
Людмил Иванов
6 years ago
Reply to  Joe

If you’re white you can kill yourself, I guess… some professor recommended you do so.

G Marvelous Hos Bounce My Tree
G Marvelous Hos Bounce My Tree
6 years ago

Clown talk from you.

People need to run up out of this bitch before she sinks. Common sense player- race wars and martial law- the Americon way.

Людмил Иванов
Людмил Иванов
6 years ago

The way things are going in my corner of the world, we are going to collapse into chaos sooner than the US. I have already accepted the fact the future is going to be violent, running away – fine, but where to?

Grand Designs
Grand Designs
6 years ago

The premise of multiculturalism is that people are tribal beings, who are defined—and who define themselves—by the racial, sexual, and ethnic groups they belong to. Multiculturalists believe that any disparity among groups is the product of unjust discrimination and oppression. This egalitarian assumption has been developed into an elaborate theory of victimology in which people actually debate such questions as whether a gay Afro-American male is more or less oppressed than a handicapped Latino woman. (And in the a group of Harpies, the gay male is celebrated not for the quality of his opinions, but for his sexual orientation. This is the pervasive creep of Victimology. It creates a vacuum; and nature abhors a vacuum)

This is the dominate philosophical theme (add in Feminism) promoted by left wing academia along with Progressivsm, (inequality…see the new darling econ Prof), POMO’s, ect.

These jackass professors (professional academics) are nothing more than nihilists. Anit-reason to the core. Nice that the current Job market doesn’t support worthless degrees and the Ivies and a ton of higher education institutions are getting there ass kicked by dropping enrollments and starting to see the writing on the wall. (And this is the unintended consequences of Govt policy fucking things up too, just like all of the asset bubbles and the economic crash, probably throw in the banksters and crony capitalists).

You can see the collapse (CZ, is a little more Xenophobic) in Western economies in the Eurozone. Immigrants are pilling in b/c of generous entitlements. It’s taking their economies down. In the US 49 million do not pay into the system and are on the dole.It’s taking the system down.

Culture is a reflection of a philosophy. If the dominate philosophy is a philosophy of feces, so the culture goes. It’s not hard to spot it everyday.

Just like during the dawn of the Enlightenment, there’s going to have to be a dominate shift in idea(s). The Enlightenment ushered in reason in all sphere’s of arts and sciences, promoted Romanticism, or the projection of the ideal (as opposed to any art collection in modern contemporary art museum…trash can anybody?).

I don’t think any profound changes are going to happen via intellectualism. It’s already too polarized. It will start with the Sovereign Man; a risk taker, a rebel and an attitude that your happiness is an end in yourself. Psychological freedom is not compatible with the current philosophy of Victomology Also, under the current dominate culture, obtaining psychology freedom is akin to a Salmon swimming upstream. It’s damn hard.

Людмил Иванов
Людмил Иванов
6 years ago

Another thing, the manosphere is sort of a relief for me, I have been noticing negative developments in everything from the dating scene to abortions now outnumbering births (in Bulgaria), the divorce rate quadrupling in 25 years, hyperinflation twice in 1997 (which erased my college fund among other things) and steady annual inflation of 8-12% as well as scarce job opportunities. Whenever I bring that up I am either shouted down or ignored, most people are focused on simple pleasures – fucking the neighborhood slut, paying tons of money to see a madonna concert, fucking their brains with cheap booze, etc. so to me the manosphere is one of the few places where I can compare notes with other guys.

cheers
cheers
6 years ago

Cheers m8.

John Cool
John Cool
5 years ago

I assume you are white/Russian too. You should be looking toward answers instead of crying.

EvigtRegn
EvigtRegn
5 years ago
Reply to  John Cool

He’s bulgarian it seems.

sing31
sing31
6 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Looking after yourself, the ones closest to you and trying your best to be a true friend to your own people. Which isn’t easy with so many of our own turning into parasitic low lifes but there are still many decent people left. I wish you luck.

ConanTHB
ConanTHB
3 years ago
Reply to  sing31

I completely identify with what you’ve said.

Cheers & blessings !

Roosh_V
Roosh_V
6 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Leave to a more traditional country.

Nick
6 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Or at least try to find more traditional regions in the U.S. but this may be more rural/small-town than most men wish to accept.

John Cool
John Cool
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Roosh is there any traditional country left for whites? I almost wish we could grab onto one and stop immigration. I know Switzerland blocking new immigrants, but it looks like it goes for whites too.

Cody McKibben
4 years ago
Reply to  John Cool

I have a fair amount of rather affluent friends moving to New Zealand. I’m not certain of all the variables in play there, but they do seem a little more generous towards men too. Too cold for me though.

EvigtRegn
EvigtRegn
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Roosh,

Another interesting country to consider is Switzerland.
More conservative than perhaps any in western Europe (e.g. gives lower tax burden if mother doesn’t work outside of home, still upholds objectivity and strong schooling as virtues etc), but they still have high immigration and low birth rates. Perhaps the cultural collapse is just as imminent there despite their inherent conservatism?

EvigtRegn
EvigtRegn
5 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Just what traditional countries are there left that are not bound to go down the same road? According to your analysis, Russia? Others?

John Cool
John Cool
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

My suggestion would be to spread white nationalism and increase white births. Just as atheism got more popular when books came out and atheists got talk time on shows.

HBD
HBD
5 years ago
Reply to  Joe

Learn about population genetics. Flush all this bolshie talk about “culture.”

Mark Yuray
Mark Yuray
6 years ago

Good article Roosh.

riiiiight
riiiiight
6 years ago

If a man can’t get laid, he blames society? I’ve expected more from this whole pick-up thing. Now it’s full of bullshit none of which will help any man get more tail. Seriously, the more you read this the more you automatically buy into this kind of theories. And the more beautiful young girls will slip thourgh your fingers. The rich get richer and the loser stays a loser.

Good luck with that.

sing31
sing31
6 years ago
Reply to  riiiiight

Ah to be a close minded egoistic hedonist. Must be nice.

1337
1337
6 years ago
Reply to  riiiiight

Oh please Adonis, share your sacred wisdom with us proles.

Charles McDonald
Charles McDonald
4 years ago
Reply to  riiiiight

There is more to this website than picking up tail.

David Hurt
David Hurt
6 years ago

Roosh… Great post and a great summary or addition to Mark Steyn’s recent books. Do u see this happening with Russia also? Along with much of western Europe the demographic trend seems to be the result of the change in mind set among the culture. Relativisim from Marx to Derrida have undermined core values and feminism has signed the death warrant.

Did ubthink about this when in Ukraine?

Marcello Battista Alberti
Marcello Battista Alberti
6 years ago
Reply to  David Hurt

most of “cultural marxists” get jailed in Stalin era:

(…)Stalin, who was horrified at the
undisciplined, “cosmopolitan” operation set up by his predecessors, cut
the Institute off in the late 1920’s, forcing Lukacs into
“self-criticism,” and briefly jailing him as a German sympathizer during
World War II.(…)

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html

M
M
6 years ago

This is one of your best articles so far. Glad to see you spending more time discussing cultural and social issues, instead of just focusing on game. Keep going, Roosh!

turkishcandy
turkishcandy
6 years ago
Reply to  M

Agree. There is only so much you can discuss about game. After a while, it’s less about sharing wisdom and more about announcing your latest success to stroke your ego. I’m glad you’re writing about things that matter.

Acehole
Acehole
6 years ago
Reply to  turkishcandy

I agree as well. I would like to see the manosphere mature into a space where we can talk about important issues like this; issues that will surely effect us even more than our relations with women. We’ve beaten the whole “game” thing to death. Now we need to start focusing on more important things that grown men must be aware of.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago

You’re overestimating the immigrants resistance to the host culture. Within a generation most of them will be socialized into TV & celebrity culture, facebook, smartphones, porn, drugs and alcohol and so on, only a few outliers will remain hardline outsiders. As a ratio I would guess their number will be similar to the few native outliers who are fanatic christian converts. Meanwhile the mainstream islamic organizations become more and more secularized and soft just like christian churches have become. The dominant cultural force is consumer capitalism, islam doesn’t stand a chance against it in the long run.

Monroe Ficus
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

That’s our only hope. That a decadent Miley Cyrus skrilled haircut gangsta rap and burberry hat society of trash replaces tradition, a day where all people come together in degeneracy.

Lest we forget indeed.

Tom
Tom
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes, that’s what the elites thought (I suspect); and they could not have been more wrong. Look at what happened to France, UK and Belgium. This is not a theoretical question, the cake is already baked and “consumer capitalism” has already lost the culture war in most of western europe.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Tom

“”consumer capitalism” has already lost the culture war in most of western europe” – that’s ridiculous, has no contact with reality.

FreshMan
FreshMan
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Nope. In France, second or third generation immigrants are actually more religious than their fathers, precisely because they reject consumer capitalism.

hrm
hrm
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Let me take you on a tour of Hayward, Union City, and San Jose and we’ll see how well integration is working.

Nick
6 years ago
Reply to  hrm

Great read here, especially for SF Bay Area residents on the massive class divide between Silicon Valley technocrats and their immigrant, servant class: http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/silicon-chasm_768037.html

Roosh_V
Roosh_V
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Carry out your thought. Once the immigrant children fall prey to the culture and reproduce less than their own parents, new immigrant replenishment is needed. It’s an immigrant carousel so to speak, with the first world using the third world as their own womb to avoid economic collapse.

But what happens when the third world reproduce less, which is something we are beginning to see…

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304773104579265520447488200

If this trend holds, it may be the trigger that causes us to swing back to tradition. The elites will have no choice but to get natives to reproduce if they can no longer import 3rd worlders.

Julian
Julian
6 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

My first thought to that is whether increasing population is always conducive to economic growth. I would guess that with the changing job-market & new technology, unemployment is going to keep rising, and population increase won’t bring the benefits it used to, it will no longer be desirable.

More generally though, I would be more interested in reading what kind of tradition you envision. My impression is that most of the manosphere imagines tradition to be more like 1950s America but that was already a highly anti-traditional culture that already contained the seeds of its own destruction.

casinobox
casinobox
6 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I don’t think you understand what traditionalism is. Nothing in the West over the past 400 years has been traditional. If you’re talking about traditionalism and nationalism in the same light, you don’t understand either. Traditionalism is rooted in tradition; nationalism is rooted in the nation-state. The idea of a nation-state is a modern idea. The governmental structure of a traditional society is an empire. Empires are, by their very design, multi-ethnic and thus multi-cultural. Nation-states (along with the modern views of race and ethnicity) are a modern phenomenon.

You may wanna take a look at this. This is what traditionalism is about. Virtually no one in the West understands what traditionalism actually is because the West has been anti-traditional for the past 400 years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School

EvigtRegn
EvigtRegn
5 years ago
Reply to  casinobox

But the difference is between being multicultural (as in the empire having de facto several cultures) and worshipping it like it’s some progressive virtue of the future.

The first is just an acknowledgement of facts, no promise to cater to minorities in particular. The latter is what has come into play in the especially the last decade.

Ilias
Ilias
5 years ago
Reply to  EvigtRegn

I am sorry but you should study more then.

Successful empires were multicultural and at least had minimum care for minorities. When they did not they collapsed. Rome respected religious minorities and gave citizenship to many people, though we can not speak of strict equality. The Ottoman empire, and the other muslim empires before it allowed religious minorities not only to practice their cultures and religions but also to have their own legal and judicial system as long as they respected a minimal public order.

It is not about worshipping multiculturalism. Nobody does that unless, for you, being interested in other cultures and showing passion for them is a sign of ‘submission to foreigners’. Rather we always hear about your systematic desire for cultural uniformity. You personify the alliance between the uniformisation of the world through the american soft power and the obsession of nationalism for uniformity. And pointed out very cleverly above, nationalism has nothing to do with traditionalism but rather is a modern conception which showed its limits and superficiality.

EvigtRegn
EvigtRegn
5 years ago
Reply to  Ilias

I don’t advocate empires either. They come at too high a social cost. But now we have even small nations like Sweden being completely fanatic.

You think empires collapse when they stop caring about minorities?

Most empires grew multicultural primarily by conquest. Now it’s more like we’re being colonized.

Believe it or not, I have a deep interest in other cultures and languages. Just not any culture, any language. Some interest me a lot, some not at all. I don’t want massive immigration from cultures I have little interest in. I’m more inclined to agree immigration from more interesting cultures. But even that must be in reasonable quantities.

To me it is an ideology that is used for massive colonization of the western world. The immigrants does what’s best for them, I get that. But that our elites sell us out like this, that’s the main problem.

I’m no nationalist either. It’s too big a scale and a bit utopian as well. We humans can’t have any real bond and social history with more than 150 or so people. So I advocate decentralisation. Decisions being made where they have effects. E.g if you agree to massive immigration, they will live in your neighbourhood. You will spend your limited local resources on them and the sacrifice as well as rewards will be felt intimately. Not like our elites now who claim to love the immigration but won’t live anywhere near it. Others take the burden of their decisions.

casinobox
casinobox
6 years ago
Reply to  Roosh_V

Roosh, what if we take the other scenario and try to get the world to keep repopulating. The strain being put on natural resources, water, food, the environment, etc. is simply unsustainable. If the world population keeps increasing, it’s gotta come crashing down. The world’s population must come down in one form or another.

Also, you’re not looking at increases in productivity. If you’re experiencing 1% decrease in your workforce size, but you’ve got a 1.5% increase in productivity, you can sustain the fall in population. Rome experienced depopulation several times during its existence. Hell, during the reign of Marcus Aurelius, I believe the population of Rome fell from a peak of 65 million back down to 40-50 million. Successful societies and civilizations are robust to shifts in population.

J.M.
J.M.
6 years ago
Reply to  casinobox

You cannot compare Rome with our times. In our case we are literally aging, in Rome the population declines were mostly because birthrates didn’t keep up the losses in war and to plague, not because there were more elderly people than babies and teenagers.

By the way no one has proven that the planet is overpopulated, and even today we are ABLE to feed the whole world if we really wanted to http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/welthungerindex-warum-niemand-hungern-muesste/8928552.html

casinobox
casinobox
6 years ago
Reply to  J.M.

You can’t prove that the population becomes overpopulated until it actually happens and shit hits the fan. World history is filled with population crashes. Do you really think that population and technology can keep growing exponentially forever? Usually, these things come crashing down towards the down side. Exponential growth at this kind of level is simply unsustainable. Look at what we’re doing to our environment as the most basic example. There are consequences for this kind of behavior.

You do know what caused the Arab Spring right? It was the spike in food prices caused after QE that caused it. If you were to see some major spike in food prices or water resource problems (this is primarily a worry in the poorest parts of the world like Pakistan), you’d see wars break out.

Westsider
3 years ago
Reply to  casinobox

“Usually, these things come crashing down towards the down side.”

Not “usually” – always.

Overshoot and die-off is an iron law of population biology.

Felix46
Felix46
6 years ago

Great points. These Western nations have been decaying for some time, and its now a matter of when the reckoning day will come. All of this is clearly unsustainable

FreshMan
FreshMan
6 years ago

great article. you are putting the bar quite high. roosh you remind me a bit of alain soral and other pestiferate thinkers that started with criticizing feminism, then moved on to cultural collapse. you are entering the dangerous zone.

Fry Koskenin
6 years ago

At my last corporate engineering job in California (where I was one of three whites surrounded by a hundred Indians and Chinese), a very tiny dorky Asian guy got in my face one day and plainly explained that because of the low birth rates for whites, his race will soon take over America, and he was happy about that. He was very bold and smug and none of it came across as an abstraction.

I simply agreed with him about his analysis of the relative birth rates, but told him not to ignore the probable coming spike in death rates. I told him that if whitey gets pissed enough, he can easily fire up the gas chambers and eradicate millions of interlopers. His face got very serious and he stayed away from me from then on. I’m surprised he didn’t go to HR and have me fired for standing up for my culture.

jew putin
jew putin
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

high death rates is actually on the jew agenda, they have engendered a race war, and i think maybe this time they have chosen whites to come out on top, if not in america at least in euorpe, they have imported all those non white immigrants in for a blood bath, a high jewish ritual slaughter as offering to their G_D.

Jon
Jon
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

Lol, takeover? Asians are only 5% of the US population. Moreover, Asians mix a shit ton with whites.

We (I’m Asian American) will disappear in 2-3 generations since we will pretty much mix up. I expect Asian immigration to decline as Asia becomes richer and more developed. In anything, I propose Asians and whites work together to rule and exploit the rest of the world.

agreed
agreed
6 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Believe it or not, smart whites like Asians, they raise their property values. Look at Fremont, CA. We also love Farsi speaking refugees from the Shah era, like Roosh’s family, see Alamo/Danville, CA for further confirmation.

AFemaleCat
AFemaleCat
6 years ago
Reply to  agreed

I’ve had a very similar experience as Fry Koskenin, I’ll just leave it at that.

Nguyen Improved
6 years ago
Reply to  AFemaleCat

Is that the mating call of the white loser? Yes sucks to know your kind are dying out..Those dorky asians are the future bitch. So suck it up.

blinkeTitte
blinkeTitte
6 years ago

The ones with the small cocks?! Which like to fondle Gals in maiden outfits? Good luck with them… Are you in yet? 😉

Prince Valiant
Prince Valiant
6 years ago

Too bad they can’t think for themselves zollozolool. Asians are the least creative ethnic group on the planet.

Wayne Youn
Wayne Youn
4 years ago

Your are dIisgrace to vietnam women. I bet you are single, divorced, or leftover. White loser? What a joke, especially from a vietnamese when all the vietnamese women do is try

Wayne Youn
Wayne Youn
4 years ago
Reply to  Wayne Youn

to be as white as possible. LOL

Jon
Jon
6 years ago
Reply to  agreed

They are pleasant neighbors, superficially, but establishing strong community trust, that people of the same race can establish, is next to impossible. This takes both a psychological and political toll. Low community trust=low political effectiveness=vulnerable to stronger, more community-effective political groups=decreasing quality of life, wealth, and political influence/rights. This isn’t anti-Asian, it’s the political reality for all groups in mixed communities.

I do appreciate the benefits that come with living next to higher intelligence neighbors though (not that all Asians are of higher IQ, but If you live in a wealthier neighborhood than it is likely). Low crime, pleasant conversations, etc…

Nguyen Improved
6 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Yes there is beginning to be an exodus of whites to asia now. Lotta white cunts polluting the asian gene pool here in vietnam.

Tom Dane
Tom Dane
6 years ago

You mean enriching.

Triple OG Pimp C
6 years ago
Reply to  Tom Dane

Well played. This got a legitimate laugh out of me.

Jon
Jon
6 years ago

You’re right, Europe has nothing on Vietnam…

Jon
Jon
6 years ago

How about us other Asians? If Japananese, Taiwanese, Chinese, and Koreans start “polluting” the Vietnamese gene pool, would you be against it? Vietnamese girls can be damn fine!

AL
AL
4 years ago

Wow. So many racist Whites and Asians in these comments. What’s up with that? Roosh, the racism in many of the comments sections in your articles, really takes away from your message. All I see in the comments section are Whitey this, nigger that, ragheads this. Cmon now…you guys can do better than resorting to that.

Danish Broski
Danish Broski
6 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Asians and whites get along pretty well and both have cultures (talking original white culture) which can compliment each other.

Asians are very collectivist, while the nature of whites is individualist (to the extreme), which is also why there have been so many wars in Europe.

That being said, there is widespread xenophobia and racism against whites in Asia.

AL
AL
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon

I’m Korean American living between China and Thailand. I think more and more Asians will head back to prosperous Asia after the West collapses. I’m neither anti-White nor anti-Black–and I like all races, but I agree with David Duke when he makes the point that multiculturalism and mass immigration is bad for a country. I also think Marcus Garvey was a hero for the Black community, but unfortunately, the U.S. government stopped him from accomplishing his goal of returning Blacks back to Africa. (Stupid U.S. government).

Jack
Jack
2 years ago
Reply to  Jon

Asians are well mannered. High IQ. Asian women are polite.

Tokyo Teddy
Tokyo Teddy
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

Almost all asian countries have a way worse birth rate than the US. Japan is dismal, Korea is the same and China has been forcing women to get abortions for a generation leading to a dwindled population and a female deficit of 30 million today. None of these countries however are replacing the population with immigrants. Japan, being wacky as they are, are aiming to replace humans with robot labour.

fluffybiskuts
fluffybiskuts
6 years ago
Reply to  Tokyo Teddy

The stat that in Japan they sell more ADULT diapers than baby diapers is true. Japan has the oldest population on Earth and way below the replication rate. China’s one kid policy and it’s high selective abortion of females ( sometimes even female infanticide ) has resulted in a huge excess of Chinese males. What do you with excess males ? War.

PoosyVortex
PoosyVortex
6 years ago
Reply to  fluffybiskuts

Correction: “What do you with excess males?” China is really just not a warring and aggressive nation (for example, little Vietnam repelled and kicked communist China’s ass in the 70’s – for real). The proper answer is: Either rampant homosexuality, celibacy, immigration or Real Dolls (and we are talking a lot of them, like a 1,000 fuck-tons of Real Dolls – I wish I could buy stock in this company):

https://www.realdoll.com

fluffybiskuts
fluffybiskuts
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

Damn how did you not punch him in the mouth???

Nguyen Improved
6 years ago
Reply to  fluffybiskuts

It’s a new thing. It’s called “the difference between reality and typing words on a keyboard” bitch lol. Or are you 5 years old..

fluffybiskuts
fluffybiskuts
6 years ago

Growed up people often get mad when they are insulted and sometimes respond with violence. The little twat discussed in this thread wilted when even confronted with a snarky reply by Mr Fry so punches necessary..

gu
gu
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

“I told him that if whitey gets pissed enough, he can easily fire up the gas chambers and eradicate millions of interlopers.”

Yeah, because YT is the only one who can do that.

Nguyen Improved
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

I highly doubt you said that. You sound like the kind of guy who’s tough over the internet but in reality you probably just mumbled stuff into your coat jacket with the 5 assorted pens.

cunt dracula
cunt dracula
6 years ago

actually i go home and suck my own ballz

Ricky Vaughn
Ricky Vaughn
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

Not sure a major pushback will ever happen. Was there a civil war in Rome when it collapsed? No, the Romans were drowning in decadence and too fat and happy to defend their culture.

Brad Turner
Brad Turner
6 years ago
Reply to  Ricky Vaughn

Actually yes many civil wars happened before the end. This is partly why the empire collapsed. The legions aggression was turned inward. Also, the romans hired many barbarian mercenaries. The image of fat and lazy romans is a common misconception that became popularized by hollywood. Actually,l rome was contracting economically at the time and everyone was worse off, even the nobility. Some of the latter emperors were incompetent, some were smart. It was a complex series of factors that brought down rome. Plagues, civil war, economic decline all played a part. Also do not forget that only the western part of the empire collapsed. The eastern part of the empire (byzantine empire) survived in some form for another 1000 years.

Ricky Vaughn
Ricky Vaughn
6 years ago
Reply to  Brad Turner

+1 Thanks for the info. Should probably start reading Gibbon or something.

casinobox
casinobox
6 years ago
Reply to  Ricky Vaughn

Yea, that might be a smart idea because Rome was probably the most multicultural civilization in history (Rome had black emperors like this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimus_Severus). Rome had a shitload of civil wars throughout its history. Rome experienced depopulation lots of times too. Under the reign of Marcus Aurelius, the population fell from 65 million to around 40-50 million at one point. Rome didn’t even have the same view of race that we have today; Rome had a spiritual view of race. Our view of race was developed over the past few centuries starting with European colonialism and it was also around the same time when the nation-state was developed. Anyone arguing for nationalism as a route to traditionalism just has their head stuck up their ass as nationalism is an idea that’s inherently opposed to tradition. The governmental structure of a traditional society was a multi-ethnic and multicultural empire, which is the exact opposite of a nation-state.

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  casinobox

2/10, too obvious.

Gaylord
Gaylord
6 years ago
Reply to  casinobox

Since when are Libyans considered black? You’re just spreading myths. Romans had a very strict policy on their nationalism ,,SPQR” and this also: ,,when in Rome, do as the Romans do”. They also borrowed the term “barbarian” from Greeks, the cultural mixing came from free migration and conquered territories.

Brad Turner
Brad Turner
6 years ago
Reply to  Ricky Vaughn

Gibbon is good. He is a little outdated though. I recommend Adrian Goldsworthy’s “How Rome Fell.” It is comprehensive and up to date.

Jon
Jon
6 years ago
Reply to  Brad Turner

…and the Byzantines rightfully banned circumcision of a non-Jewish child under an anti-mutilation law. Who says that we are more advanced…

R bere
R bere
6 years ago
Reply to  Brad Turner

“Lost to the West” is an excellent highly readable book about the Byzantine empire. One reason …and I’m sure there were multiple ones…that the Byzantine empire flourished for so long was the absolute adherence to a sound, gold based, monetary system. All money was in gold and I believe silver. No debasement of the currency was allowed upon punishment by death. This allowed stable prices, low to no inflation and reliable thriving economic commerce for centuries.
Contrast that with the world currency today where “money printing” is simply done by mashing a computer key and adding more digits into the system. They’re not even truly printing.

Brad Turner
Brad Turner
6 years ago
Reply to  R bere

Interesting I will have to check it out, thanks for the recommendation.

blinkeTitte
blinkeTitte
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

Same here in germany, everbody who doesn’t bow spinelessly to p.c. islamlove and braindead gender-mainstreaming is called a racist and a NAZI. Sometimes I reply to those morons: “Shh, don’t wake the NAZi in me, you know what we (allegedly) can do”. And I think we agree, that antiracist is antiwhite, cause everybody else here is allowed to cherish his racism. It happens that peaceful german young men are trampled to death by turks and other scum. Goole Daniel Siefert Kirchweyhe, Johnny K. Berlin etc.

R bere
R bere
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

Haha. Too bad he didn’t say this in the parking lot or you could have punched him in the face after your wonderful retort. That’s what would happen to someone like this where I live where men don’t take no shit off pencil necked punks; The South!

Badwolf
Badwolf
6 years ago
Reply to  Fry Koskenin

You should have smiled and agreed with him. As he walked away smugly you could’ve reminded him that whites will be the ones carrying on the future of the Asian race, just ask any Asian girl.

Let the hate commence.

Mark
Mark
6 years ago

what a bunch of pseudo science crap, if you do something sociologically at least think about causation and the use of empirical data when making probability statements tsk tsk

funny
funny
6 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“if you do something sociologically at least think about causation and the use of empirical data when making probability statements”
Maybe that’s why he’s used footnotes for the first time I’ve ever seen (vnice Roosh) in his many years of posting, specifically for douchenozzles like YOU.

bunch of sheep
bunch of sheep
6 years ago
Reply to  funny

Sheep like you are easy to impress..

FuriousFerret
FuriousFerret
6 years ago
Reply to  bunch of sheep

Ok there chief.

We’re the sheep. The tiny minority of college educated men that resist some form of liberalism while every other guy falls for it one way or the other. Trad Cons with being white knight feminists and the liberals being themselves.

Bahhhhhhh.

UnpluggedBeta
UnpluggedBeta
6 years ago

I felt like I was reading an academic paper; I really appreciate the citations and references which illustrate your points.

Derrick
Derrick
6 years ago
Reply to  UnpluggedBeta

It must have taken all day to write this. Very nice research Roosh. It had a peer reviewd vibe to it.

Game Hustler Roosh
What’s a cheap spot for a player now withwhite women that look good?

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Derrick

I hear Ghana, The Congo, and Uganda have lots of fine white wimminz. Why don’t you hop on the next boat out of here and go find out?

Conrad Stonebanks
Conrad Stonebanks
6 years ago
Reply to  UnpluggedBeta

If it was a paper, Roosh would probably have been outed from the academic community before completion of the peer review process. Academia has become antithetical to the truth.

typo
typo
6 years ago

“I hope that by proposing this model, it because more clear” => “it become more clear”

Roosh_V
Roosh_V
6 years ago
Reply to  typo

Fixed!

Stalin's Condom
Stalin's Condom
6 years ago

This is a masterpiece. Some of Roosh’s best writing yet.

Nevsky
Nevsky
6 years ago

This is one of the most comprehensive analysis of the destruction of the West that I’ve ever read. This article ties in manosphere/red pill observations with other traditionalist ideas, presenting a unified theory. Well done.

mmhmmm
mmhmmm
6 years ago
Reply to  Nevsky

Concur, more amazing articles, all since he decided to kill his facebook and twitter and think more about what he writes. Just to point out, Kaddafi from Libya paid 50 grand to any couple who had a child. THAT’S how you grow a native population. Of course, the Khazars don’t like that much.

Andrea
Andrea
6 years ago
Reply to  mmhmmm

Ghaddafi was a dictator and murderer who justified his state sanctioned oppression by quoting radical Islam. Get ure facts straight and ure comment is anti-Semitic.

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Your hate speech against muslims has been reported to the Tornonto Authorities. You’d better starting looking for a good attorney.

Kim Mitchell
Kim Mitchell
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

that’s funny. TO authorities, who are they? the talking cunts?

Joe Spennato
Joe Spennato
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Quiet yourself jooo, nobody wants to hear your Zionist crap

Jon
Jon
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

His comment is pro-Libyan, which is by default pro-Semitic. Get your facts straight. Also, your ironic lack of awareness in using progressive oppression speech after this great article is shameful.

SpectrumWalker
SpectrumWalker
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

Gaddafi was also the first person in the world to issue an arrest warrant for Bin Laden. Maybe we should have listened to him. Israel and Saudi Arabia are the two biggest threats to US national security.

Kris Kemp
Kris Kemp
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

You’re an idiot. Ghaddafi did more for his country than Obama ever has. He was protecting his country from Zionists (most of whom happen to be Jewish). Just like Putin is doing currently. Viva Putin. And Andrea, continue watching mainstream news and continue being an idiot.

fizziks
fizziks
6 years ago
Reply to  mmhmmm

The Khazar hypothesis has been rejected by every shred of genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence. Sorry.

Jon
Jon
6 years ago
Reply to  fizziks

Sorry, but it hasn’t. The low quality studies that supposedly disproved the Khazar accusation have been roundly discredited as lacking in validity.

The Legend
The Legend
6 years ago
Reply to  Nevsky

hmmm if this is one of the most comprehensive analysis of the destruction of the West that I’ve ever read, may be it’s time to get off the matrix and experience life outside this so called manosphere/redpill bs.

Nevsky
Nevsky
6 years ago
Reply to  The Legend

What’s this “outside” you speak of?

Andrea
Andrea
6 years ago
Reply to  Nevsky

yu need some meds if you think misogyny, anti-Semitism and hatred of Toronto women is worthy of reading!

Nevsky
Nevsky
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

6/10 trolling attempt. You almost got my feathers ruffled. Not bad.

Cunt Dracula
Cunt Dracula
6 years ago
Reply to  Andrea

can you spell ‘suck my ballz’?

Brianmark
Brianmark
6 years ago
Reply to  Nevsky

I agree. Roosh, this was a very good article about something I’ve researched and talked with my friends about many times. What you are talking about will occur MUCH quicker than 200 years. I’d go with 20
years! Technology is not just an amplifier, it is a driver too. The internet and the smartphone have changed the world more in the last 5 years than everything else did in the previous 20. I’ve been traveling to same foreign
countries regularly over the last 10 years. Changes I was expecting to see occur in 5 – 10 years came in 2 years. I hear all the time, Thailand will always be Thailand or the USA will always be the USA. Yes, they will occupy the same places on the map they do today, but both countries will change culturally so much in the next 20 years they won’t even resemble
the countries they are today.

splooge
splooge
6 years ago
Reply to  Nevsky

http://static.squarespace.com/static/51c946cde4b0f05142538988/t/530f1874e4b05a56d51cfeee/1393498231260/shaded-scaled-percentages.png

heres an updated percentage of native europeans. However important to note, mixed people,native balkan muslims,gypsys,chechnians and other caucaus people for some reason are not considered european(shocked cuz caucuas people are european)
worthy to note lot of those people in russia are native to the country but are not slavic(tatars,dagestani,checnian,caucase ppl, native american in far east)

In canada and austrailia both are 20% non white(includes natives)
BUt these are still better then being arab or malay in UAE qatar singapore or malaysia
o and 1 in 3 latin americans are full blooded europeans…the rest are mixed
the level of diversity in europe is literally nothing compared to the americas and Oceania.

Nevsky
Nevsky
6 years ago
Reply to  splooge

What is your point?

invisiblehand85
invisiblehand85
5 years ago
Reply to  Nevsky

Agree–extremely insightful, accurate and substantiated

Interested in how this compares to the East, and how will the revelations here affect world geopolitics

Ilias
Ilias
5 years ago

I am European and things here are not ‘black and white’. We don’t have your racial classifications here. For instance, my father is from Morocco and is looks totally european, though his ancestors are not. If you go to the south of Italy, some people look very brown while in Turkey or in Algeria you will find others who are blond-haired. Genetics showed that on average 40% of maternal ADN lineage of moroccan population is european. And we also have diversity as berberians, arabs and also marginally blacks.

I want to show you that your white/blacks category are typically american, sometimes british. But we do not like to think in these categories here in western Europe, especially when they do not fit the complexity of the common history of mediterranean countries.

jew putin
jew putin
6 years ago

Putin is a false conservative, he works for the jew like all the rest, he has arrested and imprisoned all the white nationalist leaders and killed all the momentum Wn’s had in russia years ago, his anti-homo rhetoric and laws is all a cover to make him look hard, but he is just another jew agent destroying a white nation.

MrLemon
MrLemon
6 years ago

Brilliant.

However there is another scenario I’d rate more likely in the US: hyper-fanatic Mormon/Christian revival.

You’d be surprised how many US citizens will embrace a radical right-wing christian takeover, in a time of danger. It would start slow, would not be noticeable. Then after 10-29 years, Feminists and homosexuals are being sent to “reeducation camps”.

Everybody scoffs when they hear this idea. They forget that only 60 years ago, this kind of thing was the mainstream. We could easily see the pendulum swing back in our lifetime.

Chode-Warrior
Chode-Warrior
6 years ago
Reply to  MrLemon

Possible, but I would think it’s unlikely. I think this path that we are currently on will end in a major world conflict (WW3 style bloodbath) before any sort of grassroots native revivals take place in any of the major Western nations. Major war is right around the corner. Time will tell I suppose.

Nick
6 years ago
Reply to  MrLemon

Yeah, mainstream in Germany under atheist, national-socialist rule. Funny how feminists and homosexuals already run “re-eduction camps” in virtually every university and corporation under the guise of “Diversity” and “Sexual Harassment Policy” offices.

Lobotomite
Lobotomite
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick

Hitler said Nazism was founded on Christian principles.

casinobox
casinobox
6 years ago
Reply to  Lobotomite

That’s what he said, not what he believed. Hitler was also kind of an arrogant idiot. That’s what fucked him up too. Hitler was pretty close to being a nihilist and many would consider him a nihilist.

Inside UoM
Inside UoM
6 years ago

Very good article, very heartiste-like.

nomnom
nomnom
6 years ago
Reply to  Inside UoM

Roosh’s diction is approaching heartiste status, too bad the SAT’s no longer test for complicated words.

Emfo
6 years ago

It has already started.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG6R_RnVAw&sns=em

The good one:

The bad one:

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Emfo

disgusting filth. the makers of this shitshow should be brought up on hate crimes charges for denigrating white men in a racist and religionist movie.

Uh-oh
Uh-oh
6 years ago

Chateau? Did you take over Roosh’s site?

eheh
eheh
6 years ago
Reply to  Uh-oh

The truth’s a shiv, as they say.

Grody
Grody
6 years ago

Let’s see some corobrative evidence dude. I have a feeling you are just pulling all this stuff out of your ass.

ummmmm
ummmmm
6 years ago
Reply to  Grody

Corroborative evidence like ummmmmmmmmm……. Footnotes to peer reviewed research? Ponder. You do understand footnotes, yes? Or has the Amerikan school system fallen this low.

Deebos
Deebos
6 years ago

Solid article. Too often American culture takes the blame and this is true to an extent but the difference is today’s American culture is liberalized and it is this liberal culture that is the ultimate cause of cultural decline. The Iitems pointed out in the article that are indicated as causes of decline are values liberals actively promote.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Laguna Beach Fogey
6 years ago

Well said, Roosh. I stroll the beaches and I see Asians, Mexicans, and Middle Easterners with hordes of kids in tow. The non-Whites are multiplying; the Whites, not so much. If we’re going to get our countries back, there’ll be a lot killing going on. That’s something our people are going to have to accept. And personally, I look forward to it.

G Marvelous Hunidds Right
G Marvelous Hunidds Right
6 years ago

I doubt many want to play with the beaners at night. C’mon man-do you think many can fight like the la raza- those German off the grid Idaho and Texas 50 Barrett 82 totting off grid white militia dudes are the best but
Lb for lb Is bet on beaners with AKs over most crews home boy.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Laguna Beach Fogey
6 years ago

My money’s on the Americans. It’s their land, after all.

Smart Alex
Smart Alex
6 years ago

So …your money’s on the Native Americans?

Laguna Beach Fogey
Laguna Beach Fogey
6 years ago
Reply to  Smart Alex

The Americans.

Smart Alex
Smart Alex
6 years ago

So what, in your opinion, is the arbitrary date one’s ancestors would’ve had to immigrate to America in order to qualify as “American”? Since everyone came from somewhere else: (Even the native Americans are believed to have migrated from either East Asia via the Aleutians or South America)…I’m just really really curious

Laguna Beach Fogey
Laguna Beach Fogey
6 years ago
Reply to  Smart Alex

The date doesn’t necessarily determine who is “American.”

Smart Alex
Smart Alex
6 years ago

Well looky there…we actually agree on something. (But I suspect it’s from diametrically opposed viewpoints)
OK, I’ll bite. What then is/are the determining factor(s)? Specifically how do you diagnose who is or isn’t “American”?

Mr. Z
Mr. Z
6 years ago

Killing people because of their race or ethnicity is not the answer and never will be. I agree with the article but comments like these are where we need to draw the line.

Laguna Beach Fogey
Laguna Beach Fogey
6 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Z

Violence works.

Always has, always will.

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Mr. Z

Every conflict in world history has ultimately been resolved through violence. This is true even in the animal kingdom. So, yeah, that’s you being way wrong, bro.

Acehole
Acehole
6 years ago

This is some of the most interesting writing I have seen on the internet in quite some time. Well done. Great theory. Sadly, I see many aspects of your theory leaving the realm of theory, and entering the realm of reality.

Steve H
Steve H
6 years ago

I just recently finished Jonathan Last’s What to Expect When No One Is Expecting. Another really good book is The Empty Cradle by Phil Longman. They both look at demographics and make predictions for the future. Both are not optimistic. Phil leans left and Jonathan leans right.

Russ
Russ
6 years ago

Brilliant article! I wonder how the rise of Islam and its culture in some western countries will jibe with feminism? That’s a battle I’d love to see

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  Russ

It will be a perfect fit, since feminism is a war specifically aimed at White Christian Heterosexual men. All other men, including muslims, are deemed exempt from the shaming and control matrix of feminism.

asshole
asshole
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

This is incorrect. Feminism has reached many muslim countries and is starting to create havoc there as well. Many social ills that the West suffers from (high divorce rates, low marriage rates, delay in having children etc.) are now also seen in many muslim countries, especially the westernized/more liberal ones like: Turkey, Morocco, Tunisia etc. Muslim minorities in the West deal with exact the same problems as the general population. Careerism amongst many Western Muslim women is as high if not higher than among white women. A positive i do see is the fact that Muslim men tend to be less passive when it comes to gender relations. The moment they deem it is going to far they’ll lash out.

Conrad Stonebanks
Conrad Stonebanks
6 years ago
Reply to  asshole

“Careerism amongst many Western Muslim women is as high if not higher than among white women.”

That’s no surprise given the massive affirmative action policies and the equally massive enabling lobby. Who can blame them for taking advantage of this opportunity?

asshole
asshole
6 years ago

The biggest recipients of “affirmative action” are white women. Second are white gay men.

Guest
Guest
6 years ago
Reply to  asshole

BZZZZZT! Wrong-o.
White women, sure. But next in line are black women, then black men, then men or women of ANY race but white, and finally gays at the bottom.

In other words, in the land your white forefathers built, you are put at the very bottom of the totem pole in consideration for jobs, homes, or college acceptance, if you are a white male. And this scenario is supposedly meant to address sexism and racism!! The hypocrisy is mind-boggling.

Ilias
Ilias
5 years ago

I am a european muslim and i can tell you that there is no affirmative action in Europe, except slightly in the United Kingdom.

Especially in romano-germanic legal systems, affirmative action is a heresy.

So as we muslims suffer from discrimination (which is a natural reaction through human groups), we deserve our success when it is reached.

Let me also inform you americans that muslims are not a race but the followers of a religion. My wife is a belgian blue eyed-blonde and is more muslim than 99% of us in Europe. And I know arabs who are atheists.

We do not care about colors our race. The matter is moral and civilisational. Your obsession on color is really strange for us mediterraneans as we are of every colors and never seriously care about it.

Conrad Stonebanks
Conrad Stonebanks
6 years ago
Reply to  Guest

“Muslims are deemed exempt from the shaming and control matrix of feminism”

This is true for every Western-European country. Pat Condell has some excellent vids on this topic where he masterfully exposes this hypocrisy.

Ilias
Ilias
5 years ago

Unfortunately we are submitted to the same rules than others sometimes worse as we are looked with suspicion.

But we managed to keep a little margin of action, as we have a deeply rooted alternative and do not bow to the dominants without resistance.