Culture War Chat: The Failing Media And Their Manosphere Attacks

Scholar of the manosphere Quintus Curtius joins me for a special edition of Culture War Chat, where we discuss current events. Here is the timeline of our conversation:

1:03: Thoughts on Trump
5:01: How the media’s power is rapidly fading
7:30: Spurt of hate articles against the manosphere, especially one by Mark Zuckerberg’s sister
15:03: Addressing accusations that the alt right derived from pickup
18:33: The media’s failed game plan to destroy their enemies (us)
23:33: What is the neoliberal establishment going to do to retain their power?
35:25: Are we smarter than the elites?
43:33: How my kid brother (and other post-millenials) are being red pilled through 4chan memes
48:27: Why feminists launch attacks against men online
52:35: The future of the alternative spheres (manosphere, new right, etc.)

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Great recap discussion for 2016.
And it’s interesting that your female readership has been growing.

Also agree that the young generation is growing up a little more red-pill. I haven’t seen it so much in terms of politics but young working class guys that I meet definitely know the score between boys and girls (scratch the liberal arts kids who are basically asexual).

I remember at a family dinner my 84 year old grandfather insulting the divorcees in the room saying that “without family, you have nothing”. A 13 year old female cousin of mine, daughter of one of these divorced Italian parents, piped up and said “I agree with him”. It put all the adults in the room quiet. I think there are some young kids that see the destruction of their parents and contrast it with the older generation and other traditional families.

Break it down to basic economics and any young kid with half a brain is going to realize that other kids that come from stable families have an edge over them. Loser kids will say that the state should break up families for equality (or some other crazy lefty shit), while the smart ones will be able to admit that what their parents did was short-sighted and look for a more lucrative path.

Combine that with the old mainstream media having to compete with an open market of new alternative media, as you and QC discussed, and I’m not surprised that more people are coming around.

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>> insulting divorcees >> That’s great. The best place to insult divorcees is at a family reunion. It seems they rarely show after that but if you’ve got one pinned at a family dinner table and boxed in, then go ahead and rip them up where the tribal bonds are strongest and boy oh boy do they squirm in the hotseat. It takes a versed patriarch to openly cross examine the belligerent selfish whore spirit she brings to the table. Watching the divorcee bitch wince makes the dinner wine taste much sweeter. Watch her kids withdraw from her and turn on her. Looks good. Good for your younger cousin too for calling her out. It is always an enriching and valuable experience to witness a divorcee getting publicly tarred, especially for adolescent girls. They need to witness more witless old divorcee hags placed on the REAL spinning carousel, like a tether rope of unending humiliation which spins them by their hair radially and provides a sideshow for solid family members to commune and guffaw like Roman spectators; a foreboding place young girls will never want to go. Cut on the divorcees until they’re in a puddle and there won’t so flagrantly be another successive crop of divorcee lemings.

Feminism has already had the wooden steak stamped into its heart. Feminists are already walking dead. So divorcees who try to proliferate the ‘divorcee life’ are like ‘talking’ dead. Rebuf and interrupt a divorcee mid sentence whenever she tries to justify her breaking of vow without repenting. We want to hear cries of repentance only from frivolous divorcees. Just play rubber hammer/ground hog game with anything else they may say and stamp out the words. Feminism is already as good as dead. It’s the remnant ghost voices of feminism that need extinguished now so they don’t spark more trouble.

Please give your cousin a bubble gum cigar for having the last word on the old cunt. You have to cut down divorcees otherwise they’ll toxify everyone they associate with. Aside from a widow, a divorcee single mother had best mope around and look at the ground and not speak unless questioned. Her children can’t take advice or orders from her. What a mess.

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Haha great post. It really was that satisfying to see this proud old patriarch from the WW2 era speak so bluntly and plainly in front of everyone. I could see that she felt embarassed, and knew that she had nothing of substance to say in response. I don’t see what casual divorce culture is going to accomplish other than alienate people from each other.

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My wife and I agreed to have four children (discussed before marriage) and we’re both from families with three children. I often wondered if we’re reversing a trend. My sister also had four kids.

Friends of mine wanting to ‘reverse the trend’ with more children than their parents had often just run out of time since they married later in life. That must put headwinds on the trend, if it exists.

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I’m only 25, but I’m coming to the conclusion that if I want several sons to carrying on the ol’ genes, I should probably get to it.

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At least you acknowledge time is a factor.

Most women won’t admit their fertility declines as they age. Or they just lie about it. Be warned, a few older women will even spend a boatload of money (while on leave from work, of course) to try to get pregnant.

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I just want to have enough energy to raise kids right. Take them snowboarding, hiking, play ball, etc. Hopefully live long enough to see some grandsons. I was seeing a girl slightly older than me and I could tell the baby rabies was taking hold. Needless to say I removed myself from that situation ASAP.

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For years I have been telling my daughters if they meet a man they want to marry, promise them sons. Usually, they have a long list of things they want in a husband and marriage, and I say ‘promise them sons’. I hope it sinks in. Yet they still think what’s in it for them mostly.

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That is true to a degree, young people see the destruction of their families and contrast things with older generations, particularly grandparents. To most modern women though its all about their personal happiness, husband and kids are not their priorities. Women initiate most of the divorces in America and often its for very BS reasons. Thank the no fault divorce laws. I knew female co-workers who often started to broadcast to me that they were getting divorced, it seems as if they trying to tell me they were suddenly available. Some guys are tempted by this but its not good to mess around with a divorced woman. Could easily become a catastrophe, a woman with kids divorcing is not good, because it shows she puts herself above her own children and family, so any guy she goes after will be expendable.
That co-worker of mine, her husband ditched her for an Asian woman. So yes feminism is going down the toilet where it belongs. Guys want a traditional woman.

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“Guys want a traditional woman.”
Heh. That really is the bottom line.

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Things seem much more positive than last year’s chat (Also very good). I was really focused on politics and getting Trump elected this year. In 2017 I want to focus on personal victories, and a little politics on the side.

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Please do it, Quintus. Please put that stupid bitch back in her place, because you may be the first man in her life to tell her the truth in a way that her father should have taught her long ago.

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A comment since y’all discussed Jezebel. All comments have been pre-moderated on JEZEBITCH.. They are so terrified of a troll like me violating orthodoxy, that there is no dynamism. No exchanging views. Thus, almost no comments.

(Speaking of orthodoxy, there is also a part of manosphere like that. I enjoyed posting on AVFM a long time but got booted off for one disagreement. I was actually for male circumcision if it is the parents’ wish. They were trying to play the feminist angle. That is, creating a male victim narrative to get sympathy with the martiarchal syatem.)

But I got booted off. Paul Elam is stopping his own website from growing. Personally, if I cannot comment on an article, I will not read it. Or visit the site. Not as a conscious boycott. I just lose interest.

There are actually some decent articles on some leftist sites. THe only one I still read regualry is THE GUARDIAN. Because I can still troll there some. They only delete about half my posts, which is great for a cultural marxist.

It really looks like ROK has a lot of commenters. Which tells me one thing. AVFM, as it seems oriented to helping men get things like social services with for men within a collectivist system, has in reality already been co-opted by the matriarchy. And is losing support for that reason.

Yes, dudes do need protection from the kangaroo courts. There is no hope for Jezebel. But Paul Elam, in spite of some good work, needs to change his approach.

I think he is on his way to becoming a non-entity.

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You should have read Jezebel’s article on white males, absolute garbage writing. And the reality is that most Feminists, which make up the entire staff of Jezebel are bigoted as fuck, especially to people of other races.

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I hate to say this, but I still think they’ll win regardless of how hard the liberal media falls.
Non-whites will be majority and vote in their Marxist insanity. It’s like there’s something genetically wrong with them that they can’t conceive of limited government (granted plenty of whites can’t either but they’re more likely to).
It might be the only way to create and sustain a civilization is through racial segregation.

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I’m going to have to disagree with you. There are many non-white men in the manosphere, including, but not limited to Roosh. Keep in mind that Europe was once a backwards hellhole, while Arabia was once the center of scientific research.

Isn’t racial segregation what sjws want? Racial segregation causes people to care less about ideas and more about their race.

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Star Wars is now the latest media weapon against masculinity, since it was taken over by Disney, the folks there have remade the series to reflect feminist dogma. Force Awakens and Rogue One are perfect examples. The original Trilogy and the Prequels were focused on male heroes while the newer films focus on female heroes driving the story. The strongest male character was killed off in the Force Awakens and his son is portrayed a psychotic, an MSM article compared Kylo Ren to a white mass shooter. Its just more demonization of white males as perpetrators of evil
It might seem silly but Star Wars is an extremely popular media icon out there and millions of people see the movies. Now its being used as a weapon against men.