Differences Between European and American Bar Scene

-In general, Europeans do not binge-drink like Americans. I thought I drank pretty well, but Europeans have perfected the art of maintaining a buzz for an entire evening as opposed to pounding several drinks in the span of a few hours. Many Europeans do not get drunk while they are out.

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-Going to a bar or club is not really a reason to dress up. People will go out in their work clothes (and I don’t mean like “hey I’m an asshole who wears a suit to show you how important I am”) to a fancy bar or they’ll wear a basic jeans/top outfit. I once threatened to leave a cool rooftop bar if I saw any women there wearing dirty Converse sneakers. There is less concept of going-out clothes – the exception is people who live in party-heavy cities, like Barcelona or Paris.

-Eurotrash is a stereotype but it’s also true. Have you ever seen adult Americans spraying each other with champagne at a bar?

-In Europe, you do not approach strangers who are unknown to your group. Europeans in general are somewhat distrustful of people unless they have been introduced to them by someone they already know. My girlfriends and I have never been approached while out, and a stranger would absolutely never try to dance with us.

-Because bars and clubs are not limited to people over the age of 21, it can be tricky to figure out which places are legit and which are a bunch of high-schoolers trying to act cool. For instance there is one particular club I can think of that is written up in every guidebook as “posh” and very much a scene, but it’s full of 18-year-olds.

-No matter what city and what bar you go to, you will hear the song “Everyday People” by Arrested Development.

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LOL, Roosh, you are excluding the UK when you say Europe & Europeans, right?

Here in the UK it’s a race to get battered, pass out, fall over and throw up on yourself in every major city on a Friday or Saturday night (myself not included).

Not so much in Europe. I’d probably move there if I spoke their crazy European languages. :p

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And Ireland. English is an European language. It’s Germanic.

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Plus it’s because Britain had stupid licensing hours. Even French people tell me they know it’s because British people have to drink up fast, or the owners would be prosecuted for serving after licensing hours.

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“hey I’m an asshole who wears a suit to show you how important I am”

Heh, I have to deal with egotistical schmucks in suits on the train every day.

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Yeah, what about the UK? People get shit hammered there.

“In Europe, you do not approach strangers who are unknown to your group. Europeans in general are somewhat distrustful of people unless they have been introduced to them by someone they already know. My girlfriends and I have never been approached while out, and a stranger would absolutely never try to dance with us.”

What?! Have you seen Euro guys in a club in the US? They’re constantly hitting on chicks.

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“In general, Europeans do not binge-drink like Americans”
It depends on the country. In America, the binge drinking rate (5+ drinks in one session) is 23%.

That’s on a par with the Danes, and better than the Finns, Brits and the Micks especially.
“Binge champions are the Irish with 34 percent, followed by the Finnish, British and Danish with 27, 24 and 23 percent respectively. Italians and Greeks, on the other hand, tend to stay relatively sober: only 2 percent of those asked reported excessive alcohol consumption.” http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,471912,00.html

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In general, Europeans do not binge-drink like Americans. I thought I drank pretty well, but Europeans have perfected the art of maintaining a buzz for an entire evening as opposed to pounding several drinks in the span of a few hours. Many Europeans do not get drunk while they are out.

Yeah, its pretty clear you’re not talking about the UK here. Good lord those are some sloppy ass drunks.

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Yeah, some of these generalizations are way too broad for their own good.

You do realize that Europe is a continent made up made of ~50 unique countries with differing cultures, right? How many of them have you actually partied in?

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“In Europe, you do not approach strangers who are unknown to your group. ”

Have you actually been to Europe? The men are almost without exception gregarious and sometimes downright sleazy. Italian men will cut in on you while you’re dancing with your wife. On your wedding night. American women especially get hit on relentlessly in Europe.

“My girlfriends and I have never been approached while out”

Hmmm… wonder why that could be? Just sayin’.

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You retards still against the “bailout” now? Some people need to be hit on the head by a ten ton anvil.

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnnm/081003/100308_california_crisis.html

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“The federal rescue package is not a bailout of Wall Street tycoons – it is a lifeboat for millions of Americans whose life savings, businesses, retirement plans and jobs are at stake,” Schwarzenegger said.

“Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis that restores confidence and liquidity to the credit markets, California and other states may be unable to obtain the necessary level of financing to maintain government operations and may be forced to turn to the Federal Treasury for short-term financing,” Schwarzenegger wrote.

“Payments for teachers’ salaries, nursing homes, law enforcement and every other State-funded service would stop or be significantly delayed,” Lockyer said. “And California’s 5,000 cities, counties, school districts and special districts would face the same fate.”

“The economic fallout from this national credit crisis continues to drain state tax coffers, making it even more difficult to weather the continuation of frozen credit markets for any length of time,” Schwarzenegger said.

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I hate that song…….fuuuck I hate that song

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Really broad brush strokes.

“In general, Europeans do not binge-drink like Americans.”

There are plenty of Europeans that “binge-drink”. I seem to always meet them.

“hey I’m an asshole who wears a suit to show you how important I am”

Depends where you are at. Some Italian cities are the best dressed in the world. Nothing compares to wearing a bespoke suit.

“There is less concept of going-out clothes – the exception is people who live in party-heavy cities, like Barcelona or Paris”

Add any major city to that list. There is always a scene.

“Have you ever seen adult Americans spraying each other with champagne at a bar?”

Yes.

“In Europe, you do not approach strangers who are unknown to your group.”

You do if you have Game.

“it can be tricky to figure out which places are legit and which are a bunch of high-schoolers trying to act cool. For instance there is one particular club I can think of that is written up in every guidebook as “posh” and very much a scene”

Never go by guidebooks.

This really seems like it was written by someone who is experiencing their first trip to Europe.

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” “My girlfriends and I have never been approached while out”

Hmmm… wonder why that could be? Just sayin’.”

Maybe European men don’t like fat American chicks?

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Hey I’m a fat American chick and I constantly got approached my European men in whatever country I happened to be in, so I guess that theory is off. They think we’re all easy though, so that may be why.

I will say that the more effeminate men I met in places like France or Italy were less likely to binge drink. The fun europeans I met however were always way drunker than I was, especially at any organized sporting event.

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“the more effeminate men I met in places like France or Italy were less likely to binge drink”

I am not knocking you for stereotyping, I do it all the time myself. For example, anyone who isn’t from the city I instantly think is an unsophisticated hick.

Interestingly, the biggest drinker I have ever met was from France. Pro Snowboarder pioneer, from the Alps, drank 30 beers on a decent day (no exaggeration), complete psychopath. Great friend.

About as far from “the more effeminate men” of France stereotype as possible.

I have some friends from Italy as well, complete hoods, that drink and drug real heavy.

The reality is, “Americans” in general are not really any more heavy partiers than “Europeans” in General.

My experience anyways.

But then again, I have never really thought of myself as a American. The world is my hood.

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Bob: I guess that explains why my tax-exempt money market fund has suddenly started yielding over 5.5%.

At the same time, as an ex-Californian, I have a hard time crying for California. California has been ruined by high-tax liberal policies. Rather than whining about their budget shortfalls, they should ask why several hundred thousand people (on net) leave the state every year for other states, many of them rich and successful folks who are tired of paying 9.3% income tax when WA, NV, TX, etc. have no income tax at all. The LA Times studied the numbers and found that the average person leaving CA has an income about $40K/year higher than the average person entering CA. In other words, the Laffer Curve is alive and well.

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loll at Anon and JT….Roosh your intern blows.

“In Europe, you do not approach strangers who are unknown to your group….. My girlfriends and I have never been approached while out, and a stranger would absolutely never try to dance with us.”

wow you must be beat as fuck…american girls are easyyyy and european guys know this…i get wayyy more attention from european men then americans

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Roosh your intern is not sparking my interesting in visiting your blog, btw how do you get an intern anyway…..are you that busy writing a blog a day…your past experiences to write about are probably running out and the new issues you present are on every blog in America…get back you niche..travel…I’d much rather read about yours instead of hers….

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Hmmm, man, think you might need an intern pre-post reading policy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption

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how did this get back to the economy?

zorgon:
for what it’s worth…

warren buffet has gone on the record that Californians don’t pay ENOUGH taxes: particularly property taxes.

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Yeah, I was in Stockholm and Amsterdam and the drinking there was insane. They handle their liquor better than Americans due to starting at a much younger age, but they really knock them back. And the Italian and Spanish guys I met were approaching women nonstop.

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LMAO @ Arrested Development being responsible for the unofficial party anthem of Europe!

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its weird because despite their stalwart dedication to drinking americans (canadians) under the table, canadians always win. granted, i was in germany. but the majority of persons who had to have their stomachs pumped were of euro descent. i just thought theyd have more gumption. but i was only 18. who knew that 26er of schnapps coupled with weissbier would impale me: the last thing i remember was my german host mother, brunhilde, screeching: du has geztzen (sic) uber alles!!!!

it went down from there.

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Good post

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FACT: Suits are awesome. Everyone should wear them. With suspenders.

Also, Sally, good post!I’ve never been to Europe though so I can’t tear you apart for any inaccuracies. But…ummm…the formatting…with bullets…nice job!

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ACT: Suits are awesome. Everyone should wear them. With suspenders.

Put a man into a suit and his ego immediately becomes superinflated and his obnoxiousness level increases by 10,000%.

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The amount of legs, arms, backs, and who knows what other body parts in that picture without there being a single clear face is impressive.

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LOL @ Peter’s suit comment: “ego immediately becomes superinflated. . .”

This post was a little weak in style and content. Bar hopping in several different countries does not make anyone a cultural authority. Sally talks about people on an entire diverse continent like they’re another species.

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Complete BS. I wonder which Europe Sally has been to.
Like almost everything Sally wrote about Europe, it’s ranging from daft stereotypes to cultural blindness. Go on lady, keep on confirming western stereotypes about the unability of american people to understand, not even to mention accept, the various cultures sorrounding them.

Hopefully some of u guys are out there and know better.

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Good post but a little oversimplified. I’d be curious to see posts for different cities.

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“About as far from “the more effeminate men” of France stereotype as possible.”

I’m not saying that all men in France or Italy were effeminate. I met plenty that peed on walls, played rugby and drank with the best of them. But the men who were more likely to layer turtlenecks and polo shirts, wear skinny jeans and sip a “petit jaune” I found almost exlusively in those countries. They were freaks in the sack, but their effeminate behavior in public was uncomfortable for me. On the other hand, I highly recommend everyone go to Denmark to get drunk. A night in the free city of Christianhavn is perhaps the best time I’ve ever had.

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I’m European myself and have been reading game for some time.
But isn’t it kinda just suited for America? You just don’t approach people here if you are not introduced, or even if you do, the gaming is very different.

There’s serious need for a new school of European Game,

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The UK is not in Europe. “Europe” is where the Brits go off to fight wars.

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“In Europe, you do not approach strangers” Rubbish!

I was bridging the Anglo-French divide with this French chick who had moved to England, She commented on the fact she didn’t get approached much in England (she was no 10 but a solid 7) compared to the rest of Europe where you get hit on all day, every day! She had Lived in France, Italy & Spain.

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I have lived in Germany and France.

Generalising the whole of Europe because you live in Belgium, of all countries does not yeild good evaluations.

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I kind of felt it was the same way in Brazil. They will drink all day, but they won’t get waisted. They mostly drink beer or Caprinha. Not many shots. Americans are just alcoholics.

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“I hate that song…….fuuuck I hate that song”

HA! HA! 😀