Dilemma For Guys With Tight Game

So you spent years in the game and built yourself up to a real man. Not only have you fucked a lot of women but you have gotten many women deeply into you, to the point where they stalk you. They have waited for you outside locations they knew you’d be at and have harassed you with dozens of calls and emails. They do anything to keep themselves connected with you, even contacting one of your parents.

With regards to game you’ve gotten your shit together and know how to build a strong (fatal?) attraction that goes beyond the physical and deeply into the emotional. All that’s left for you to learn is how to screen out mentally ill women, though it’s not hard to argue that just about all women are mentally ill in some way.

Then you go alone into a club one random night and see this cute girl standing near you. She’s not bad, but you’ve fucked better. Four words into your opener, she rolls her eyes and turns around, laughing to her friends. She doesn’t even give you a chance.

What could you have done instead to let her know that you are in fact stalker-worthy, a valuable man that many women want to be with you at this moment in time?

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Ugslayer
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You would have to….excuse me I was distracted by the dozens of other girls in the club.

Virgle Kent
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you know my game is usually based on humor so I would have been like….

“wait, most girls usually don’t laugh that hard till after I take off my pants… I still have some good material to get through”

can’t let her know she’s stunned you in any way

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make her jealous by getting another girl….

Zarathustra
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You’re in a club ffs. Plenty of the women are going to have very superficial standards that they won’t compromise just because you were witty or because a fat chick was throwing herself at you earlier. Game works great if you are within or borderline to her standards, but when you’re not you can expect the harsh 180 rejection.

I think Virgle’s suggestion of finding humor in it and not looking stunned is the best option, though that will even seem superfluous if it’s a loud club and she has already turned around. In the countries where several aggressive attempts are the norm it would be the ideal recovery.

For some of the more superficial women all the game in the world isn’t going to get you anywhere.

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You move on and come back only after you’ve shown enough social proof in that club.

Once you approach a girl you can count on her “stalking” you for the rest of the night, just to see what she turned down.

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Nothing, other than getting across a vibe of total sexual satiation through facial expression and body language, which will not register with all girls, especially those you cold approach without them having checked you out. Game is broadcasting the maximum amount of attractive traits in as short a time frame as possible, but if the audition is cut off after 4 seconds, there’s not much you can do. In hindsight, a boderline harsh neg or bold statement (“you look like the kind of girl who would stalk me after we slept together”) might convey the information, but who cares. Unless a celebrity or heavily social-proofed, these rejections are inevitable and not worth a second thought or even slight bitterness.

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Seems to me that if you came in with a few girls, right away you improve your odds in general. Anyway, who says you will win them all?

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You need to eject and find some credibility through some other hot chicks in the club. Roll over in the corner with a solid 9 and she will play ball if you open again.

You need some street cred and to look like you weren’t fazed.

Chick is going to be watching to see what the other women think of you.

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An easy answer would be to say move on, I wouldn’t do anything instead, who cares if she thinks you are stalker worthy or not. But we could get a little creative with the re-approach.

Let’s just pretend that we STILL want to talk to this girl. How would we go about doing so if she won’t even listen to 4 measly words?

Well a real man should always have a pen on his person. If you are at a bar, they probably have little square bar napkins. I would at this point order a drink and sit at the bar. Then I would write a creative little note, explaining how since she wouldn’t listen to me I had to write my opener via napkin. Most of my openers are situational so I’d write something appropriately pathetic. I would go over and give it to her friend and ask if she could deliver this telegram to her. (Pointing) I could probably make this work. If not, I’d be sure to sabotage this approach enough to the point where I could laugh about it later.

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as soon as the eye toll comes laugh at her say nevermind and and turn away

shes one of those girls turning down strangers to impress her friends … what class

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Its hard to know exactly what you could have done differently if we don’t know what your first opener was.

That being said, generally, if you approach with something disarming/playful/funny/sexual/non-needy that assumes you both already have a relationship, then outright shoot-downs are rare in my experience. Girls like to play/role-play.

If she does shoot you down in that instance, than only her witnessing you having fun regardless of her being involved (social proof, etc) will likely ignite an interest. You have to show that she is missing out, rather than her rejection having an affect on your mental state. However, club game is tough, because she often can’t hear or will even think to look at you again.

And really, who cares. Because if you approach as I described, you should have far more success than rejection, and therefore one girl doesn’t matter in the slightest. After all, she could be a devoted girlfriend/wife, or just be having a bad day. Who knows.

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Roosh is my hero!

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“Then you go alone into a club one random night and see this cute girl standing near you. Sheâ��s not bad, but youâ��ve fucked better. Four words into your opener, she rolls her eyes and turns around, laughing to her friends. She doesnâ��t even give you a chance.

What could you have done instead to let her know that you are in fact stalker-worthy, a valuable man that many women want to be with you at this moment in time?”

1. Don’t go to the club alone, bring some girls or friends as social proof. ( I go alone sometimes- so I’m guilty of this as well, when I’m in a group, espically a group with hot women, my success rate goes up signifcantly)

2. Ignore her for a bit- witholding attention is a form of neg; it increases her self doubt- espically if she’s trying go get your attention in the first place “WHY ISNT HE HITTING ON ME???”

3. Be an asshole when you open- assholeness towards women is an indicator of an abundency of pussy to women- her beauty means so little to you that you can actively insult her impunity- because you know you’re getting poon tonight anyway.

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Roosh wait till her friends alone and turn th fustration into an intense pickup.
Now you have her friend and and your pride.
Jelousy…

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Fuck her mom (or dad, or dog, whatever), and get it on video, post it on the internet, and then e-mail her the link.

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Welcome to Brazil.

Once you find the answer (or at least a guess), you’ll be able to publish a book about picking up the bitchiest girls in the world.

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just remind her good looks are a curse, but she can count herself lucky…

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9: “Then I would write a creative little note, explaining how since she wouldn’t listen to me I had to write my opener via napkin.”

Trying to imagine how this would go down I cringed so hard I almost blacked out. If a girl does the head turn she’s basically saying: no matter how amazing your personality is your physical apperance (clothes and/or body) is a deal breaker. If she’s superficial enough to not even give you a few minutes before she ignores you then she will probably be a huge chore to sleep with anyway.

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The only way to salvage a situation like this is to pull out the heavy artillery and say, “Don’t you realize I’m a close personal friend of RooshV?”

From there, she’s putty in my hands. Although her constant whining, “When am I going to meet Roosh???” can get a bit annoying.

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This is the problem with you Game people – deep down inside you care way too much what women think.

I cant believe this is even something on your mind, Roosh. I just dont believe a guy who genuinely has had tons of success with women dwells on these kinds of things enough to actually write a blog post about them.

Whats so puzzling about so many Game people is that they claim to have tons of sucess yet exhibit a preoccupation with womens opinions and reactions that is far more typical of guys who dont have much success.

There is something fishy in the game community – people who are successful with women just dont think and write like many of the more prominent game people.

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Approach her again, later, with the exact same line.

Just to see what would happen.

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“Approach her again, later, with the exact same line.

Just to see what would happen.”

-That’s awesome, made me laugh.

Anonymous
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Didn’t you just write a post on not letting women validate your existence?

Carl Sagan
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This is the problem with you humans– deep down inside you care way too much what other humans think.

Fixed.

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Realize that is what guys do to girls all the time and move on. It is the equivalent of her boobs being to small or her butt being too big. One small flaw killed ya and you will just have to find someone else. Hopefully someone with enough respect to let you finish your line.

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Creepy post.

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wow thats a knock out punch from the girl , emotionally

i guess some girls are retarded , or maybe she just had a bad day , hey she might be on her period , women are emotionally unstable during their period .

thats how i think after i got a knock out punch

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This always makes me chuckle a bit inside.

I was in a club in Germany once where literally in the same night one girl told me that I was creeping out every girl in the club and to mind my own business… and then not two hours later, an equally hot girl told me I was the coolest and most interesting person she had ever met in a club.

Who knows… maybe they’re both right? Haha…

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just tell her “hey, i’m a friend of the owner’s son”