Do American Guys Have The Best Game In The World?

Through my travels I’ve adopted a strong appreciation for American-style game—the same game that is made fun of by feminists and haters who love tearing apart its negging and peacocking attributes (two things I believe should be microscopic features of any man’s repertoire). The truth is that when done right, American game is at the top of its class. Only American men and their Western counterparts in England, Ireland, and Australia have the skill and ability to walk up to girls at any time of the day, sober or not, and start an interaction that leads to sex.

I don’t have to tell you that approaching is hard as balls. It takes years to get to an elite level and even then it’s still hard. There is a long trail of tears left by men who attempted it but simply didn’t have enough fortitude to push forward. Those same men are left participating in kickball, frisbee, and dodgeball clubs to meet unattractive women with thick ankles. For the majority of men in the world, watching a guy approach a girl cold and end up with a number or kiss might as well be magic, and I personally take it for granted that I have this ability when so many will die before even having a minor success from it.

Like any other challenging skill, the rewards are immense for those guys that learn it, but I find that only Western men are motivated enough to master approaching without the aid of a dance floor. The ultimate show of game commitment is approaching during the day, something you only see done by Western men.

From movies and television you’ll get the impression that Spanish or Italian men have the best game. I wholeheartedly disagree. They are more scared to approach, and once they finally gather the liquid courage, all they do is compliment and show needy behavior. If you grill any American girl who has had a lot of experience with them, the term “creepy” will be thrown around frequently. Only naive Western girls who swing by those countries for a short amount of time fall for their compliment & cuddle game. Hell, even I believed Spanish guys were game masters thanks to watching movies like Vicki Cristina Barcelona, but witnessing them in action has been an exercise in trying not to spit out my drink from laughter. They are not actually capable of doing the following:

How about men from other countries? Here’s a small sampling:

Brazil. These guys are top contenders for best game, but there’s a big problem: they move way too fast. They get a lot of kisses, but less bangs than those kisses would predict. Brazilian guys are samplers, not closers, but still get an honorable mention for their strong alpha game.

Iceland. The worst game I’ve ever seen in my life. The guys don’t know how to approach or have conversation. They wait for girls to approach them. Pussies.

Denmark. They have strong social circle game and their conversation skills are better than Icelandic guys, but they are too scared to approach unless drunk.

Poland. There’s a Dr. Jekyll and Hyde thing going on with them. When sober they’re pathetic betas who would pee their pants at the sight of a beautiful women, but when they drink they step up and do dance floor approaches that work for them since their women love to dance.

Ecuador. I was very impressed by Ecuadorian men. They’re salsa dancing is magical and they have a positive attitude that suck women in. They’re persistent and not afraid to approach outside of the bar. If you’re in Latin America and see a short dark guy approaching like a madman, I bet he’s from Ecuador.

Argentina. Similar to guys from Spain, but a little more aggressive. You have a few guys who are animals in the club but most depend on social circle game.

And now for Western guys:

England. Great humor and charm, but when they overdrink they turn loud and obnoxious. They cockblock themselves with their lack of alcohol control.

Australian. Also good humor with a great cocky vibe, but sometimes this borders on abrasive, which pushes girls away. They can be the most annoying of Western men.

Irish. The funniest of the bunch, but worse than the English when it comes to self-cockblocking with drink.

American. Most laid back, at the cost of being more passive, but they are best at preventing self-sabotage. Therefore they are better at sealing the deal on girls who aren’t drunk.

When it comes down to it, two guys in the world have the best game: Western guys and Latin guys. Western guys have better conversation ability and cocky humor while Latin guys have better dancing ability. Unfortunately, Latin guys have eye-rolling talking game that prevents me from crowning them with the top spot.

By saying “American” I’m including black guys, who help raise the level of American game by picking up slack of the beta white dudes who are too chicken to approach. Without black guys on our team, we would definitely be worse than the English or Australians, but their cool factor and aggressiveness puts them on the starting roster. Plenty a white man would do himself a favor by learning their fearless approach style.

If you are American, understand that your culture possesses the right mix of factors that allow you to excel in cold approaching. You’re more talkative than most other guys in the world and you have female targets that not only are talkative themselves but don’t mind being picked up by random men. For you not to take advantage of that fertile environment—to believe the Hollywood bullshit that European men are better than you—is to shit on your American heritage and waste plenty of bangs that you deserve. In other words, you are better than you think you are, and I know this because I’ve seen how godawful foreign men are when it comes to approaching and flirting.

The truth is that an American with tight game is just about impossible to compete with. He’s not a romantic and he’s not a particularly skilled dancer, but boy can he bullshit his way into a girl’s pants.

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American game may be the best in the world for American girls, but it doesn’t necessarily work great elsewhere.
Just a few days ago there was a post on your travel forum by a guy from NYC who claimed to be getting laid regularly back home, but failed in Ukraine. Yet I, who have never banged one NYC girl (they would not give me the time of day) have slept with many Ukrainians.

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Brazilian guy here struggling to learn some American Game moves to increase my close rate.Spot on Roosh,I move way to fast sometimes.

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I’ve noticed Brazilian guys will never talk to other guys either. I was out with a group from my hostel and we met up with another group. There was a young brazilian guy all over the girls left right and centre, but he didn’t acknowledge the guys at all – kind of came off as a bit anti-social.

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Ha, K-man, I’m the guy from the forum you mention 🙂 It’s true, my game didn’t work in Ukraine, but I really think there is a lot of evidence that it was my status as a foreigner and not my game, as I explained there. Who knows for sure. Plenty of guys in the Ukraine were serious approachers, though.

Roosh, I think you overemphasize the fear of approach. I know guys who are fearless at approaching but do so in a way that involves throwing themselves at girls, and fail again and again. They lack a kind of essential pride that makes them indifferent to social humiliation, but this same lack of pride makes them bad with girls.

In my evolution towards getting good with girls, I went through a phase where I threw pride to the winds and lost all fear of approach. It was the easiest thing in the world. But I failed again and again. I then retreated for a while into a prideful refusal to put myself out there, and I got lots of eye contact but no girls. Girls were impressed with me, but I was too proud to risk rejection.

The trick is to not be too proud to approach – in that case you will fear rejection too much – but to be proud enough to not throw yourself at girls and to conduct the interaction in a way that makes her respect you.

It’s that sweet spot that is really hard to reach and takes lots of practice. It is a very peculiar state of mind.

I agree that Western men often have the kind of balls and a kind of aggressiveness lacking in the rest of the world, which surprised me because I thought we Western men were the most femi-neutered in the world. And yet in a way we are, but we are simultaneously the most masculine.

I remember a Russian lady I met in America telling me that she thought WW2 neutered Russian men, and wondering what she could possibly mean since everything I heard led me to believe Russian men were hyper-masculine and American men were the neutered ones. But she knew much better than me, as I now see having been to Ukraine.

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Do you dance with the girls in Poland? I got to know some polish girls here in Amsterdam and they all want to dance. I just say i dont dance and move the conversation forward, you?

ps; just bought your book, its great, its practicality is basically a counterpart to mystery method’s abstractness.

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“By saying “American” I’m including black guys, who help raise the level of American game by picking up slack of the beta white dudes who are too chicken to approach. Without black guys on our team, we would definitely be worse than the English or Australians, but their cool factor and aggressiveness puts them on the starting roster. Plenty a white man would do himself a favor by learning their fearless approach style.”

you don’t say…. interesting

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Competition breeds excellence. And in the America where the vast majority of our women are over weight there is FIERCE competition for attractive women. American men have the best game out of necessity.

Great post Roosh!

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I have seen some decent aggressive Game in high-end clubs in Barcelona, better than in other parts of Spain. It did err toward the side of “drunk aggressive” though, but still, it was somewhat effective.

I have seen some decent Game from Argentines as well.

One you didn’t mention that has good Game: Mexicans.

Another that is really counter-intuitive: The French.

Those cats actually can be downright sinister.

A lot of times I think it can depend on the city, Italians in Florence seemed pretty decent on attacking the American tourist hoards that descend on their city. I think they grown up with it.

– MPM

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Vicky Cristina Barcelona remains one of my favorite movies and its scene one of my favorite game scenes. I don’t do mega-approaches like that yet, but I have wowed not to let any opportunities that I see daily pass by, and so far I have had some success. When my game improves (and some of my other attributes, like age and muscle), I will be the king.

p.s. totally true about Polish guys!

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didn’t Mixx mention that Puerto Ricans guys have some pretty tight game?

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It makes sense that the men who develop the best game will come from those countries in which the mantra of “you’re such a nice guy, just be yourself” is most severely punished: those countries in which feminism has advanced the most.

Great game is born of the trauma of realizing how wrong that mantra is.

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Men with great game; a by-product of generations men being born into broken families, with little to no social supports, brainwashed into believing women are special snowflakes, and being rewarded with absolutely zero poon.

The nations with best game in their men is inversely proportional to how bad the men are treated there.

Great game is a strong indication of something being terribly wrong in that said country’s culture.

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No evaluation of Canadians, Roosh?

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I’m spanish and have to agree that the game displayed by the average guy here is mediocre.
Once you learn and practice game you are ahead of the 99% of men.

As many times has been said spanish girls have a self-entitled pincesses complex for the most part and are more bitchy, hence game makes a big difference here.

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*directly proportional

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“England: Great humor and charm, but when they overdrink they turn loud and obnoxious. They cockblock themselves with their lack of alcohol control.”

Dude, have you been following me?

http://johnnyshornofplenty.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/heres-how-it-went-down-last-night/

You’re right about the Irish too. My favourite stand-up comics are all Irish dudes but they drink like demons.

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I believe that Americans are raised as social animals. High School is a popularity contest where you have to bust your balls or become a social outcast. There’s a lot of pressure on American kids from an early age to function socially whereas in (northern) Europe more focus is put on them to develop at their own pace.

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“Competition breeds excellence. And in the America where the vast majority of our women are over weight there is FIERCE competition for attractive women. American men have the best game out of necessity.”

– Natural selection at its best. American men either develop game or are doomed to fat ball & chain.

“Great game is a strong indication of something being terribly wrong in that said country’s culture.”

– America is a country in decline. Go to any big city and you’ll see miles of ghetto wasteland and a few rich areas. Countries like China and Japan that are advancing or stable have almost zero game.

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Great post but dreading the rush of angry comments from the supersensitive roissy hbd crowd that are gonna get really butthurt because you dared to say something nice about black guys oh excuse me “NAMs” lol

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What is up with you faggots and your love of blacks? Butthurt cuz everything they told you at school was a lie? Lol.

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I laughed at the Vicky Cristina Barcelona clip you posted. Although his character might be an embellishment that makes spanish men appear far more ballsy than they actually are, the girl in that clip who resists his charm IS the typical american ‘young professional’ woman… engaged to a boring finance douche, afraid of foreign men, and turns down a free private flight to another Spanish city, when her friend (the sane one) is like, “hey, I’m down for free shit, plus he’s hot.”

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I think the reason why black men have such fearless game is because of black women. I swear to god those women put up the biggest bitch shields probably the most out of any race in America period!!! I also think that rap culture has alot to do with it..the flashiness, picking up women, alpha behavior…… etc.

@Anon
I fear also that Roissy’s HBD crowd will ransack this thread they tend to hate black men.

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American guys approaching out in public are a common sight for those who pay attention. Still, a majority of those approaches, mainly in the moments immediately before and after the approach, are so awkward and poorly planned out logistically speaking that it’s embarrassing to watch.

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One thing I’ve learned about the black chick bitch shield and the nonblack chick bitch shield is that black women really aren’t as bad as I used to think,and nonblack American women really aren’t any more easygoing, just more strategic about their bitchiness.

For example, there is this story that supposedly if you drop a frog in boiling water, it will jump right back out of the pot. However if you turn the temperature up gradually over time, the frog will not notice and stay in the pot until cooked.

I’ve come to realize that black chicks are like the pot that’s already boiling from the beginning. Their bitch shield is up super high from the beginning. The irony is, if you can power through that bitch shield they often become pussycats. That’s why you see so many black chicks with some badass dude who they let mistreat them. White American college-educated women are often like the slowly boiling pot when it comes to their bitch shields. They can start out with good behavior to make you complacent and to make you invest time, emotion and resources, and as you start feeling more committed and invested they raise the temperature on the bitch shield to the point where she’s just as bitchy and ballbusting as the stereotypical black woman and the guy is in a henpecked dynamic, except he totally didn’t see it coming.

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it would be nice if you could share any conclusions about the receptivity of girls, specially towards day game.

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This post reminds me of Dominican Game. Growing up in nyc I used to envy those guys and I used to think they had the best gamez hands down. Now that I know better I realize that their game only really works on Dominican women. Seeing them in action with a non Dominican latina or White chick is hilarious.

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Roosh – as an asian guy, should I interpret your lack of comment on asians in general as a reflection of how asian males are seen in american culture? i.e. non existent?

Funnily enough, while I was in Europe, I had way more success without game than ever here in the US (not caring for American women probably had something to do with it tho)

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The point about the English is so true. Guilty as charged.

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@PUAVault

The truth is men in most asian countries are 100% beta and have 0 game because the women are so submissive. They don’t even have to try. Compliment and cuddle with a dose of control freak is all that is necessary. And yes, I have lived in Asia.

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I’ve always been interested in the differences in game between the cultures. Hit the nail on the head with the English I have to say and I’m with #27 here, guilty as charged on many occasions.

It’s only over the last year or so that I’ve started to tone down the drinking, it’s a massive self cock-block. But the culture here is to drink and drink..and then some.

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That video is extremely inspiring. I’ve seen it 3 times in a row… that’s the kind of game I think that fits me.

And its nice how you mentioned brazilian guys, it seems quite accurate.

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In all honest truth, you’re faulty in calling that game “The American Game”. Negging, peacocking, all invented and perfected by the venerable Mystery, a Canadian, and he perfected it in Toronto or Vancouver.

Sure, many American and British guys adopted and improved on that, but calling that The American Game is like the Romans calling the Greek Intellectualism and Religion the Roman.

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Roosh,when are u going to Post more about your experience in Poland??

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To attain a high mastery of game, 95% of it boils down to this: avoid oneitis & play the numbers game. The other 5% comes down to details, and it is these details that take up nearly all the majority of the time spent learning; hence, the quickly depreciating return on learning game.

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Damn, I’m so going to try that “Vicki Cristina Barcelona” move! THAT is a move worth trying!

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Ha, too true about English men. I don’t drink much and I can’t stand talking to drunk people when I am sober. They don’t seem to get how unattractive it is to be drunk.
This absolutely beautiful Irish man came over at the club, and he was so drunk he couldn’t focus on anything. My friend just said to me “what a shame…”. It really is.
I disagree about us not being attracted to Mediterranean man’s “game”. There is a reason why all girls swoon over them, we like that needy, romantic stuff. To be honest it’s only creepy if he’s not attractive.
I’ve never spoken to an American man before really so I can’t verify what you say. But it seems to me like you overthink too much and you analyze everything…just like your women maybe.

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gmac

thats probably true about the environment. Although even asians that have made their way over to the white shores seem less game-y.

puavault

yes i got one of my only white lays when i was in europe as an asian.
and a handful of kisses.
guess that just about makes me the:

Asian
Wilt
Chamberlain.

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Sometimes I think black men have better game than white men. Then I see the “black dude on the street” routine where he just drops compliments to female passers-by left and right expecting to get a reaction (reaction: ignored). You know the type – “hey, beautiful dress, beautiful girl,” etc.

Then I have to wonder about the ones I see nailing fat white chicks. And I mean FAT. Which contributes to two terrible notions: 1) That it takes game to nail a fat chick, and 2) That the chick is somehow turning down other (read: white) guys to go with some black dick (i.e., that she has more options than she has).

I also see a lot of black guys getting bossed around by their bitchy girlfriends/wives.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of smooth black men out there. But I think the idea that they all have tight game is yet another manufactured myth from the Hollywood crap factory.

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@28

“The truth is men in most asian countries are 100% beta and have 0 game because the women are so submissive.”

You’re wrong on a number of accounts:
1. They’re worse than betas. They’re omegas.

2. “most asian countries”? What Asian country exactly doesn’t have non-betas and omegas? Personally, I haven’t seen one. Mongolia, perhaps?

3. You haven’t seen the exceptional gamers within Asia. Sure, they can’t game white women say in America and Western Europe, but they do have their own versions of game highly effective to the local girls. Go to Singapore, South Korea, Japan and some parts of Thailand and discover some.

Watch your statement. I wager it’s unlikely you’ve been to all of Central Asia, China, Northest Asia, and Southest Asia.

Your limited exposure isn’t the pan-Asian trait.

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Alright, I am ambiguous about RooshD. I like what he does and write. But, I always get the feeling he is just the male answer to Paris Hilton. Flashy, no depth. Hoping I am wrong.

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Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of smooth black men out there. But I think the idea that they all have tight game is yet another manufactured myth from the Hollywood crap factory.

The words Roosh used were “cool” and “more aggressive” and “fearless approach style” not “tight game.” Also, where are all these Hollywood movies supposedly “creating” an image of black guys as having super-tight game? 95% of movies I see, the cocky white guy is the love interest of the hot lead actress, regardless of her race, and the black guy at best is a sidekick. The other 5% either star Will Smith or have an all-black cast.

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“I think the reason why black men have such fearless game is because of black women. I swear to god those women put up the biggest bitch shields probably the most out of any race in America period!!! I also think that rap culture has alot to do with it..the flashiness, picking up women, alpha behavior…… etc.”

I don’t know if it’s a bigger bitch shield per se, but it’s definitely one of a different style. Black girls’ bitch shields give off a vibe like “I’m going to rake you across the face with my acrylic nails if I don’t like the way this goes” versus the white girl bitch shield that feels more like “I’m too good for you and if you don’t execute this approach impeccably I’m going to mock you to all my sorority sisters so you will have no shot with them either.”

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Male game and female bitchiness is an arms race, with men trying to penetrate bitch shields and women trying to screen out all but the best men.

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Game in its modern form wasn’t just invented in Canada.

It was invented in Ontario.

Because the guys there are so inherently awesome? No. Because the women have incredible attitude and leave a lot to wish for in the looks category (3s think they’re 10s from Niagara and Windsor to Ottawa).

Necessity is the mother of invention.

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I should have been born in Ireland or the U.K. Most of my cock blocks are the result of drinking myself retarded haha.

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Much of American Game derives from Canada. But honestly, Canada is culturally just an outskirt of America, just with less war-fervor. Mystery and Tyler Durden only come off as being from a different cultural climate when they say the word “about.”

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One thing I see brightly about Americans, which I see more dimly in other groups, is an intensely self-critical perspective. I once said, “We Americans are a self-critical lot.” The person who heard that replied, “No we’re not! We’re arrogant, short-sighted cowboys!” I replied, “Thank you for proving my point.”

Oh sure, there’s a lot to detest about America. But when Americans see a fault in the country or in themselves, they internalize it and work nonstop until they’re bringing things to the table no one else is.

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What about Canadians? A lot of the true breakthroughs came from Canadians and a lot of them are still at the top. Here’s a list of some of the top Canadians:

Mystery
Tyler Durden
Zan Perrion
Cajun
Tenmagnet
Savoy

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Sid: You may be right in some ways about Canada being a cultural outskirt of the USA but man running game in Toronto or Vancouver is not easy. Maybe it was just my experiences or I was in the right place at the right time but I actually found gaming in New York and Chicago easier than in Toronto. You better bring tight alpha game in Toronto or you’re going to get blown out. I haven’t got a whole lot of experience in Vancouver but check out this post by Donlak on it:

http://donlak.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/if-you-can-make-it-here-you-can-make-it-anywhere/

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This post was incredibly inspiring.

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Great post. Besides your book, what are some good resources for practicing cold approaches?