Do Not Have Sex With Feminists

Feminism gets its power from two centers. The first is a large tax-paying middle class. It provides welfare money for single mothers; it extorts or steals money from husbands and fathers via an aggressive judicial system that prefers women; it enforces laws against masculinity using local authorities; and it funds feminist studies programs in public universities. If you add to that the system’s need to score female votes during elections and the feminization of men who vote along with them, it’s easy to understand how entrenched their power is in America. I haven’t even mentioned how corporate media hires feminist stooges to appeal to a fattening female audience that is just as hungry for hamster rationalization as they are for cupcakes and artisanal pizza.

It’s a large middle class that partially explains why feminism is rising in Brazil, but not in Argentina or Colombia. While there are many exceptions to this middle class rule, you will not find feminists gains in countries with a weak middle class. This source of feminist power will erode as the world approaches an economic singularity event, but until that time, we have the individual power to speed up the decline through one simple action: don’t have sex with women who identify with feminism.

A woman will only behave in a way that allows her to continue receiving what she wants in life. So far, being a feminist has not hurt her chances at “sexual discovery” when hitting the town on Saturday night, or filtering through hundreds of messages from men on dating sites. A man at a bar will roll his eyes at feminist talking points, but he will nonetheless persist in his pursuit of the notch. This must end. For the same reason you pass on fat women, resigning them to an underclass of low-quality men who will fuck anything, you must now sexually discriminate against women for their man-hating belief system.

Not only must you pass on a feminist, but you must let her know why you are passing on her. It must be clear to her that a man she was considering for sex has rejected her solely for her beliefs. Examples:

Girl: “It’s too bad that men still make more than women.”
You: “Wait, are you a feminist?”
Girl: “Well yeah.”
You: “Too bad, I don’t date feminists. Have a good night.”

Girl: “Birth control should be a human right, like mobile internet access.”
You: “So you’re a feminist?”
Girl: “I think if you believe in true equality, you’re a feminist, too.”
You: “LoL. I don’t talk to feminists.” Backturn

An argument or debate is not on the table. Do not give her the chance to explain her beliefs or demand to know yours. Once she admits to being a feminist, someone who believes in female superiority at the cost of male well-being, she no longer exists in your world.

The emasculation of men in the West is proceeding at such a rapid clip that it may be time to move past indiscriminate banging to sexually punishing women who vote for politicians that push laws and policies which make men second-class citizens. We only have ourselves to blame if we persist in the hypocritical behavior of lamenting the destruction of men while giving orgasms to the very women who are pushing it along. Our penis must take a backseat to our principles.

A part of me wonders if we’re too far down the road for this action to have a large effect, but even if we are, it’s an action we must still pursue, for we must align our behavior with our beliefs, our beliefs with our character. We can not grieve against a thief that is robbing us as long as we keep allowing the thief to rob.

If a girl is rejected only two or three times by men for being a feminist, she will think twice about sharing that affiliation to future men she meets. And if she is unable to share those beliefs, to openly discuss them, her mind can’t help but see them as shameful and controversial. Without water, the feminist soil in her brain will dry up, and the plant will wilt. She will be more hesitant about spreading her ideas, and rightfully come to see feminism as something that hurts heterosexual relationships.

The middle class in America is on the decline. The strained state will have to reduce the money flow to the feminist establishment. If this is combined with men rejecting sexual intercourse with feminist women, I believe we’re looking at a 1-2 combination punch that may put this ideology on the backburner, pursued only by the transgendered and homosexual freaks of society, instead of the cute girl you exchange eye contact with in your favorite coffee shop. Hopefully she’s not a feminist, but if she is, reject her swiftly and without compassion.

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The recently released book, “Men On Strike,” deals with this theme more deeply.

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uhhh wouldn’t that be less deeply Russ lol..
I always pass on the fat girls but instead of satisfying a feminist chick, I would just tell her to blo me and expect her to satisfy me , I ain’t gonna pass on that any time soon

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Yes because I’m sure feminists blow you on command.

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You constantly read articles about women who take a break from feminism to enjoy 50 shades of Grey or who think taking a cumshot to the face is compatible with feminsm. I don’t think a feminist blowing a guy on command is such a far fetched idea.

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NO because Blowjobs are awesome.
What crazy person thinks doing a blowjob is not nice?
I love them. Of course you must clean your cock. But further on it’s great!

And I am a feminist.

Hector Herisson
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Good for you.

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Well continue to blow away

Caroline Carlson
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You don’t understand what feminism is.

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Because feminism is the dictionary definition when it suits feminsts and when it doesn’t, feminism becomes whatever that particular woman wants it to be.

“As a feminist I love posing nude for playboy because I find that empowering”

“As a feminist, I think all women should cover up in ads, movies, magazines etc.. etc.. because objectification of women is wrong”

“As a feminist, I take pride in working out and eating healthy because that’s empowering”

“As a feminist, I take pride in being fat and ugly because that’s empowering”

“As a feminist, I think porn is harmful because it objectifies women”

“As feminist, I think porn is good because it empowers women with their sexuality”

All these statements are contradictory but they all have one thing in common: they are all mainstream feminist statements. The problem is not that I don’t understand feminism, it’s that feminism is a meaningless term. The only thing worth knowing about feminsm is that it is not and has never been about equality, especially in the US. It doesn’t help men not women; it fact, it acatively harms them. Feminism is nothing but a quest for power and it seeks to destroy gender and heterosexuality, which are the foundations of a stable society. If you can’t see that, try taking off your feminist lenses and try looking at reality objectively.

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You don’t understand it because your mind it too immature. The similarity about these statements is that it’s about women choosing how to express themselves not having choices made for them. Feminism is about power yes. It’s about women being empowered to make their own choices. Your small mind needs an easy answer. Women are diverse and want diverse things. You seem to need for us all to be the same and our complexities are too confusing to you. Most feminists are heterosexual simply because most women are heterosexual. Most don’t want to avoid men we just want men to stop controlling us. Feminism is entirely about equality. You just can’t handle any woman who isn’t on a screen playing a role for you. You need women to all be simple and predictable. I’m sorry you can’t have a relationship with a three dimensional person. You need a doll not a real woman. Apparently they make good ones in Japan.

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Frankly, I’d take a japanese doll over a cunt like you. It would probably be smarter too. If feminism can be everything, then feminism is not an ideology with set goals and principles, it’s an excuse and it’s too often used to justify terrible self-destructive female behaviour and man-hating. Also, if feminism is about equality, can you tell me when feminists plan on campaigning for equal rights in reproduction for men? Or equal prison sentences for the same crime? When do you think they will march to protest male genital mutilation? Oh sorry, they aren’t done fighting manspreading, mansplaining and the imaginary sexism in the wage gap during those slut walks. Didn’t mean to interrupt the “progress”.

82% of american women, the worst women in the entire fucking world beside maybe Toronto and Montreal, don’t even identify as feminists. So maybe tone it down a bit with the “feminism will save you all” cult.

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You just aren’t able to understand the words I wrote. Women are diverse. We want control over our own lives and choices. Why are you not able to comprehend the very simple explanation I’ve given?

Do all men Have the same desires for their lives? All men express their creativity the same? Are you not diverse? Can you not decode different things for your own lives? Is this not called freedom. Women want the ability to do the same. Sure some women will make choices we might view as self distructive. It should be their right to make them…..just as many men make choices to be self destructive.

Ive done birth work for twenty years by the way and men are much more likely to demand genital mutilation for their sons than women. In every case I’ve been involved with where there was disagreement over circumcision it was the woman who didn’t want it and the man who wanted it. So men don’t seem to doing any marching to stop circumcision either. Is it our job to deal with your issues constantly? We seem to be the ones trying to address the issue of sexual assault which 97% of the time is male behavior.

There will never be equality in reproduction since it doesn’t take place inside men’s bodies. Get over it. Don’t want to loose control over what happens with your DNA then don’t give it away. If you abdicate any responsibility over birth control then you don’t get any say what happens with the outcomes. When men start gestating then you are more than welcome to decide what happens inside your body. Want us women to have say in your medical care? Want your partner to decide when it’s time for you to get a vasectomy or a rectal exam? No your body your choice.

I’ll repeat myself since you seem to be rather slow……women want equality and control over their own lives and bodies. How women chose to manifest this will vary from woman to woman. This is a set goal of feminism. It is a well defined objective . You have too small a mindset to understand this. And you don’t seem to be able to grasp any level of complexity. Please stick to the dolls. You have a similar level of intelligence.

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Stop using “feminists” and “women” as synonyms. They are not and like you have convieniently ignored, 82% of women in the US don’t need your cult to exist and be happy.

What kind of men was it demanding circumcision? Were they immigrants? Were they white? If not, then I do agree that we need to raise more awareness and my question was why is it that feminists aren’t doing that? The answer that you won’t admit is that feminists don’t give a fuck about men’s issues, and that’s why they aren’t a movement for equality. And that’s all right, if only they were honest about it. Pretty much everyone on ROK is against gender equality but we explain why and why don’t try to hide it. It’d be nice if feminists did the same.

“Don’t want to lose control over what happens with your DNA then don’t give it away” What if I used a condom and it broke? What if they girl lied about being on the pill? I didn’t consent to have my DNA taken away and yet, the woman has all the power to get money from me. The standard you’re applying to men is ridiculous. Women, don’t want to get pregnant? They keep your legs closed you whores. That’s pretty much what you’re saying but for men. I’ve said it before, if feminists weren’t such disgusting hypocrites, they would make great pro-life advocates.

You don’t understand what is a self-destructive choice. Being a complete slut is one. I don’t care if women become sluts, I’ll just laugh when they hit the wall and start complaining that they can’t find a husband and are miserable. Becoming a single mother is not only self-destructive, it’s also very bad for the children and society in general because single mothers costs insane amounts of money in welfare just to raise messed up kids who are more likely to become criminals, especially if they are boys. And yet, feminism promotes that choice as the empowered choice for women.

Instead of calling me slow, try adressing my points. My points are about feminism, not about women. Finally, women’s happiness is in decline relative to men since the 1960’s, right about when feminism started having the most impact. Think about that without your feminist lens.

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You consented to give your DNA away and once it’s in someone else’s body you have no right to say what happens to it. Get over it. When that condom breaks she is the only one who has to deal with the physical realities of what that means. You don’t. So you don’t get to demand anything. Marriage is happening less often because women are choosing that. Credible research indicates that. Men report being happier and in better health while married. They are more likely to want to return to being married within two years of being divorced. Men married at 25 have higher incomes at 35 compared to other men in the same field. Womens health improves after the death of her husband. Women report being happier after divorce and are less likely to want to remarry . Women triple their household work after marriage to care for the needs of the husband as she assumes the lion share if his care. Women receive no financial advantages in the workplace due to marriage . Women are only 40% of the time saying they desire children whereas 80% of men state they want children. Statistically women are happier and healthier being single. Men are the ones who are miserable and sick when single.

The majority of my patients were white and the majority of the males wanted circumcision. Whereas the majority of the women did not want it. So more women are fighting for their son’s bodily integrity than are men. This is an example of women fighting for men’s equality more than men are actually. Women are doing much more public information on this subject than are men. Significantly more actually. The largest group fighting against it is a woman’s nursing group. You are tragically misinformed.

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I’m tragically misinformed, assuming that you aren’t tragically misinformed. You haven’t provided sources but I’m happy to take you at your word for it because it doesn’t really matter. What matters to me is that the system is set up in a way that a woman is entitled to a man’s money by law but he isn’t entitled to anything from the woman by law. That creates a situation in which a woman can decide on a whim to divorce her husband without reasonable justification (i.e. the effect of no-fault divorce laws pushed by the feminist lobby) and extract money from him, often for the rest of his life, if he doesn’t kill himself like so many men do, that is. I’m not really interested in campaigning against that because frankly, I don’t think it’s ever going to change politcally because people are more sensitive to women’s needs than men’s.

The only thing men have to do is categorically refuse to get married, and when women get tired of not being able to find husbands, they will find a way to convince them to come back to the table. That is simple, effective and doesn’t violate anyone’s rights.

Regarding your “sex is consent to fatherhood” argument, I find it really amusing that you don’t consider the financial impact to be a physical reality that men have to deal with. Frankly, I’d rather carry a child for 9 months and then give it up for adoption or have the government give me huge financial benefits to raise it than work for 18 years to provide for a child I didn’t consent to and probably don’t even get to see; especially if I lived in the US, since men who cannot pay child support go to jail.

Regarding circumcision, there is a lovely quote on the Nurses for the Rights of the Child website.

“But it’s a weird situation. We identify ourselves as feminists, yet we haven’t been well-received by other feminists.

Carole: They’re saying, “Circumcision is a men’s issue. Why are you helping them? What are we going to get out of it?”

Remember when I was talking about how feminism is a meaningless term? Well, you just proved my point by mentionning this group. Also, I love how completely anti-egalitarian the response from a feminist Carole was talking to is. I really cannot believe this is coming from a feminist, a self-professed member of the movement for the equality between men and women*

*some conditions may apply

http://childrightsnurses.org/index.php/nurses-stories/nurses-speak-out-against-circumcision/

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Women pay alimony as well. Women pay child support. Again so so uninformed. Yes refuse to marry. You didn’t comprehend my earlier comment . We are less likely to want to and benefit much less than men. Men are twice al likely to want marriage and children than women. Men’s health suffers when single where as our health tends to improve. Again women are more vocal about fighting circumcision and less likely to want it for their sons. Men seem three times more likely to want genital mutilation for their sins than women. Men suffer more from remaining single so please remain so. Your offer to carry a child is bogus and useless…..like your comments here.

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Yeah the wife is better after divorce because the courts favour women over men in these situations in the fact that the woman can scam the man out of half his money and take his children so they can continue to recieve child benifits and then raise the kids to hate to and I speak from experience of being a child in that scenario, my mother was vindictive and cruel as are many.

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I am a woman and I hate all this men putting down women but men should have the right to the baby as much as the woman has.Sure women have more rights then men because baby needs her more and she takes care of the baby more,
If the judicial system is making him pay for the child then he should have a say in the matter.
Its not just about women rights or men’s rights its about human rights and like men and women unborn baby is human and they should be protected from injustice.

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Those men who expect circumcision are those who believe in the Bible. As it was written BY men. There is at least one verse in the Bible where it states that the man to prove that he is faithful to Jehovah, will have both himself and his sons circumcised.
Here is one Biblical verse on that: “But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.”

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Women are selfish creatures and Feminism is used as a Front to justify womens self actions. Feminism has caused a declining birth rate in Western Civilisations, and will cause Western Culture to ultimately fail. Men are oppressed by the family courts world wide. The strange thing is the Muslim Birth rate is much higher than the Caucasian birth rates Worl wide. With the influx of Muslim people as Refugees world wide, it won’ be too long until women are again oppressed by Sharia Law when the Muslim idoelogy becomes main stream in some Western Cultures.

How Women Dismantle NATIONS * / & other UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTHS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOMkl3ApTK0#t=1.3917034

Women who carry on about Feminism will realise why men are the ones who build societies. Feminism destroys a sociey. Look at the falling birth rates. I’d be alarmed if I was a Feminist. Perhaps they don’t have the intelligence to understand what’s happening. The writing is on the wall, and the damage is perhps irreversable.

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You are completely ignorant! Women always want long term relationships but some men prefer not to have them. Are you going to ban prostitution because of this?

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Sorry you have been misinformed. Fewer women want marriage than men do according to credible surveys. Right now men are almost twice as likely to want marriage and children. Women know men create more work for them and don’t reciprocate in terms of effort. We’re tired of taking care of you like a child requires. If you brought more to the table you would be more attractive. You don’t.

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So Caroline, for you contradictory feminist statements exist because women are diverse and complex.
That is quite an explanation, although I have seen feminists fight among themselves about what was right and not.
Furthermore I fail too see equality in your writing, I see you describe men as simple predictable immature misinformed and childlike. I hope you expect more of the people you want to be equal with.
You seem to be a smart women, it must be possible for you to explain what you mean without demeaning others. Maybe then you will get back more than you are used to get until now.

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The men who follow these Mgtow authors expect women to have a hive mind and are stuck in a 1950s version of society. Women are not striving to be intellectually equal to men. We have intellectual advancement. We strive for political and legal equality which we do not have. Sorry, demeaning the quality of men here on Daryush’s site is inevitable. They cannot handle the concept of women desiring legal and political equality. They lack understanding and perspective of the issues involved.

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Ok, but I would still not use demeaning words.
There are differences in laws everywhere, but for modern western countries, what are those political and legal inequalities ?

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Oh friend….would you expect a black person to refrain from using demeaning language on a kkk site? Perhaps read some of the messed up shit proposed and supported by Mgtow men and get back to me. As for inequalities between men and women legally and politically ….I don’t think I have time to verse you in all,of them. Perhaps you’ve noticed 400 plus laws passed in the past five years to restrict women’s access to health care. That’s one example. Could you reference one law which restricts men’s rights to health care?

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Like at this article, if someone goes in a discussion with you, they are not following the “2-sentence back turn” rule they are probably not extremists nor kkk. You have chosen your avatar-pic for some reason right;).
As for the Mgtow guys I do see hate against slutty women. Ironically this site is from a manslut apparently regretting his way of life as a victim of a conspiracy.
As I’m Belgian, I don’t even know some of those 400plus. The health sector is probably your strong-point so I won’t bet against you. If I ‘ll guess for female-specifics, one or some would be birth control/abortion, is this the right direction? But in my view a big threat to overall health care is the growing national debt in most countries, and there is no easy solution. We will have to improve how we live together or the card house will fall down.

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You need to look into the future Caroline.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOMkl3ApTK0#t=1.3917034

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What credible surveys? The ones shown by the media and/or society that makes women look more strong and independent as opposed to men? Men create more work for women? That’s why so many successful men had married a woman, she pressures him to get a second job or work more hours to keep her secure, then cheats on him because he’s never home. We don’t need you women to take care of us. That credible survey that men want marriage more than women is BS. There are women all over social media claiming to be anti-feminist, etc. Why? Because they know men are walking away from women and it’s a manipulation tactic to try and get these men to come back. And as for men not bringing more to the table: I’d like to give you a more clear vision of reality on something. For thousands of years men have worked endlessly to build the world. Men continue to innovate, build and maintain the infrastructure you women live in and utilize. Everything from gas & electric companies, water co., trash collecting, coal mining, construction, firefighting, truck drivers, train operators, and so much more. 92% of these occupations are filled by men. That leaves 8% of women. However, women say men are not needed, men are useless, are men necessary, etc. If the 92% of men ever went on strike, what do you think would happen?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzRUMkSnuXQ

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Society needs all workers to survive. Men have not singlehandedly built society. Men have been at the helm of controlling industry and as a result we’re facing mass extinction due to climate change, loss of potable water and declining oxygen rates. So kudos to all you boys….mass famine is on the way. Nicely done there. Way to run the ship. No one is saying the tasks men perform at their jobs don’t contribute to society. You construction guys do a hell of a job. What I’ve said is men don’t contribute to relationships and their own up keep. This is not even closely debated. You lean on women to perform more than twice as much child rearing activities …yes even when both parties work outside the home. Even in households where there are no children women perform the day to day activities of a household where grown men could accomplish these things. Simply by marrying a woman increases her housework by 12 hours a week. This is how much upkeep you males require. So a married woman who has to put forth that much extra effort to care for her man can see the advantages to getting rid of him. Especially women with children . Why spend so much more effort to care for another adult when you are so focused on caring for children. Add to that that women who are married report fewer orgasms than women who are not married….( this doesn’t apply to women who are married to other women…..women sleeping with women whether married or not have waaaay more orgasms) and dating…..well you men don’t end up being the best use of time and resources.

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preach!

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you fucking whore shut the fuck up

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As if you had the power to make me do that😂😂😂😂😂your words are as impotent as you probably are😂😂😂

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you are a lesbiam wbo will probably be hanged to death by a man by GT

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😂😂😂😂😂well I hope he can spell better than you. Your words are as impotent as you are. Dude do you honestly think a woman like me cares for your opinion? You’re laughable…not threatening.

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You obviously care or you wouldn’t be wasting your time at a men’s website.

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Of course I care when men are advocating for women losing rights.

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Yes, feminism is not about equal rights, it’s advocacy for women, only. It’s advocating for rights for women that men don’t have, and about limiting and getting rid of men rights. Sound about right?

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Oh shit. Haha! Savage AF.

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Oh child….checked out so many of your comments on other pages….in each you threaten to kill women……so sad ….only men with no success in their own lives do this chronically. So sad you are unsuccessful. ☹️ Why do you feel so threatened by women? Do you imagine we women do anything but laugh at your statements? None of us take you seriously. 😂 You only feel like a big man on screen😂

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What far fetched is that he thinks women will blow him on command. He is a joke.

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Stop using women and feminists as synonyms. He didn’t say women, he said feminists. Don’t they teach you how to read in gender studies?

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My masters degree isn’t in gender studies.

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who the f** cares?

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I think the one who doesn´t know which subject is taught in Gender Studies is you, Hector. Besides, many women are represented by what Caroline says. I wondered what kind of people reads this stupidity and you are the only one articulated. Sadly your ideas are rubbish.

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What subjects are taught in gender studies? Easy: Victimhood 101, 102 and 103, How to blame men for your own failures, Double standards and hypocrisy fundamentals, The Patriarchy™ ex machina: why nothing is ever your fault, History of the Vagina and Penis envy in the 20th and 21st century: from Dworkin to Valenti .

Optionals: Menstruation art history, Baking bread with vaginal yeast and Internalised misogyny in Antiquity.

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Gender Studies students are typically stupidest of all disciplines. Don’t ask them to think or read, it will just confuse them more.

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I don’t think you have any concept of what feminism is actually. The sub/ dom relationship is actually one driven by the sub and has not a damn thing to do with feminism. Some guy just encountering any woman and demanding she perform in any way sexually is unrealistic. It’s actually called rape. Sub/Dom relationships are consentual. Pity you men on this site aren’t more informed about the differences between consentual and non consentual sex……sort of like Daryush here. You don’t seem to understand feminism or sex. Sad .

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The difference between consentual and non consentual sex is really simple. It’s about whether or not she’s capable of saying no. Because we’re obviously all rape supporters on this site, right?

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You are all obvious fans of one rapist…Daryush the author here. So idolizing a rapist, and being rape apologists is what all of his supporters are yes.

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And here is the crux, take your lies and stupidity somewhere else.

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I’ve actually never met women more willing to blow men on demand than feminists. Most of them are promiscuous, self-loathing sluts who don’t have standards.

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Without going full MGTOW, one thing I find useful in relationships with women is that if they get unusually nasty and mean I just zone out of unnecessary interaction with them. If my wife has been argumentative and needs to ask me where the baby food is or to care for the daughter, fine. That cannot be stopped. But she can’t ask me for advice on all the other petty stuff that she likes to talk about. I give her the “silent treatment” in that I require to be communicated with in a respectful manner.

Nearly every girlfriend save one has reached out to me to reconnect. Men smply need to know and frame their value.

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Some of the ones that I have gone with have learned to not respect any men at all, and they are lost causes. Only a man with who hates himself would stick with them. If you try to call them on their lack of basic respect you might as well sever all ties, because they’ll go ballistic, like “how dare that man treat me like I’m treating him!?!?”

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I’ve been reading you for a long time Roosh. You’ve got a little bit too far down the rabbit hole for me to follow with this one though.

Most “feminists” are not “man hating”, in fact, they probably have no friggin clue that true feminism aims for female “equality” (‘equal outcomes’ I mean of course). 9 times out of 10 if you push them on it they concede or don’t want to talk about it anymore (confronting world your views is uncomfortable for most).

> “LoL. I don’t talk to feminists.” Backturn

Is likely to make you look like an inflexible asshole. There are much better ways to deal.

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What rock are you living under? Go to the video of that feminist woman who stayed up all night forming a campaign against Julien Blanc from RSD and some of the comments state “If the male race were eliminated I would be happy” and then other women cheering her on as “the most rational voice in that discussion” .. Dude feminists are fucking psychotic bitches who will ruin your life. I 100% agree DO NOT FEED THE MONSTER.

It’s the same thing in society with everything, everyone passively accepts everything. Red light cameras, fucking everything. Grow some fucking balls man, wake up. Realize what the fuck is going on around you.

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What you assume is feminism. Is actually feminazism.
True feminists believe in equality between genders. This includes the right to work, go to school, etc..
There are feminists who are stay at home moms. While their man is out working.
As for roles in a household. That should be up to that household only. We don’t have the right to tell a household on how to run.
Maybe the gal is better at a job that brings in good cash. And her husband is the better nurturer. And the same is true in reverse, the gal is better at being a mom. While the guy is the type to work. Same goes for housework, cooking, etc…
But no matter what. If the guy is the only breadwinner. She could try for a part time and or even a at home job. Thus taking some of the financial burden off his shoulders. And still be a mom when their offspring are home. More women have more free time due to some of the mechanical stuff that is around. Like Roombas, dishwashers, laundry machines, etc…. Along with if the kid(s) are old enough, they can do chores.
Heck, even though I came from a traditional household with my mom staying at home. I found out that my mom helped my dad buy the home I grew up in, by her having a job that helped get the down payment and closing costs at the time. She held that job before she had me. And I was the first born in the family. When my brother and me were in junior high. She went back to work to help dad out. But her money according to him, was for her use only. As in clothing, jewelry, etc…. By then we kids were doing the chores after school. And I believe that kids should do some of the chores. Like laundry, cleaning, taking care of the household pet(s), and any lawn work that is not too heavy for them.

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Yes, yes, I’m sure that this is “your” feminism, which is absolutely nothing like official or institutional feminism, which has a much stronger claim to being “True” feminism because it is what is taught in Gender Studies, what writes all the gender studies text-books, and in many cases write the laws.

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I grew up when feminism started. Thing is, the feminazis have hijacked feminism. And they have rewritten feminism into their own version. Plus they are the ones claiming that the feminazi form you assume is supposedly the ‘real’ feminism. When it is not.
Feminazism is the extremist form of it. They do NOT want to give women the choice of either home or work. To them, All women are supposed to hold down a job. Along with being a single mom. Dress more immodest than a streetwalker. In the minds of a feminazi, women are supposed to hate any and all men. Including their own fathers. Who by the way, had a hand in creating that feminazi.

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yes, they are, take it from experience, unless you want to develop ptsd and consider taking your own life some time in the future, she does not respect you, she believes that you are an oppressor and will get inside your head and happily destroy you if she can, with not one bit of guilt whatsoever.

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LOOK LIKE?!

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doug i feel where you are coming from BUT even though there are women who dont know, they are women who subconsciously behave like a feminist for 20 years i have been a mangina (i was brainwashed) and two times back to back i dated these oppressing women the last one told me “i just simply believe in equal rights” but not only was she selfish not only that my feelings didnt matter not only that i was always “wrong” she still insisted that she wore the pants in the relationship AND im sure she wouldnt mind her son (she doesnt have children) in his twenties running around with tits and a mini skirt, saying that to say…even though they dont know/believe in its true nature majority of them will still act on its principles due the same way how i once was a mangina and i am part of the generation that will enforce this social behavior in 15 years ( i have encountered a lot of my female peers who said they want to tie/remove their tubes because we as men are “no good”) now its “ok” when you see that type of comment from one female once every few years but to see that ish from all sorts of females across the country in a matter of days is a serious concern for 15 years in the future…feminism is a serious cancer that needs to die a painful death and to remind our descendants that feminism is not good for our society

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“feminism is a serious cancer that needs to die a painful death and to
remind our descendants that feminism is not good for our society” – AMEN !

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They all do now. They all seem to want to tear you down and disrespect you from the first second they meet you, which you are expected to be nice, and respectful etc. It’s crap, never again for me.

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Spoken like a true white knight Beta.

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It doesn’t matter if they are not man hating. They are supporting and enabling a man hating ideology. At best they are staying silent, which is the same as complicity.

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yes, exactly

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You really are a pussywhipped idiot. Most feminists are indeed man hating, they still like sex but do not want the other attachments that go with it, feminists seem to be lopping up 50 Shades of Grey which is a porno film for women. I find it odd that women degrade men for watching such stuff, but when women do it and men point out that its wrong, the man becomes the villain.

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Actually what you are calling feminists. are really feminazis hiding behind the feminism flag.
1. a feminist believes in true equality between the genders. Including the responsibilities that go with it.
2. a feminazi believes that women are superior to men. that person is the opposite of a misogynist. one who believes that men are superior to women.

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yes, thin skinned, hypocrites. They can really dish out nasty stuff but fold like a sheet of paper when they get even a little of their own medicine back at them.

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Sure Wuss. I Bet Your GF is a little Mister and u have nothing to say!

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LOL.

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My wife is Hungarian and not a feminist, in fact she thinks feminism is stupid and thinks most American women are fucked up in the head. She does believe that men should treat women with dignity but not lick boots as most feminists believe men should treat women.

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I consider myself a feminist. I would never ask a man to ‘lick my boots’. Sure, there are some women who have completely misunderstood the concept of equality and who claim to be feminists, that doesn’t mean that everyone’s like that- some of us do want a world where every person and their perspective genuinely granted equal weight. We can’t reach a point of equality by encouraging inequality, I would never silence a man on the grounds of his gender, nor would I silence a women on the grounds of her gender. Discuss?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=feminazi

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actually most of today’s feminists are not true feminists. They are feminazis who have seriously hijacked the term of feminism.
To the point that even a true feminist is vilified. I’m talking about the feminists who believe in equality between genders. This not only includes the rights, privileges, but also the responsibilities that goes along with it.

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I read a lot of big words. “Hijacked”, “nazism”. You think you know what those mean, but you really don´t. The extremes of feminism does not go as far as male chauvinism. Feminazism is an idiotic speech, but it stops there. In many countries, women are killed because men think women are supposed to behave in some way and they have to make them behave like that. To take all their liberties and rights. They are beaten, tortured, because they dared to say no. Or to leave a home where they were mistreated. This kind of thinking is what is making the war on sex more radical. Those feminists react and macho idiots react, so is an endless chain. This needs to stop. Stop being childish trying to change everything feminism has accomplished and try to take it to the “equalitism” way. Or whatever they are trying to call it these days.

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I’m not against what true feminism has done.Like what this list has on it:
1. Allowed females to be able to go to school and learn how to read, write, do sums. One good thing also about females that have had schooling. Some become doctors and nurses. Or would you rather have a strange male looking at the private parts of your kinfolk who are female?
2. allowed both men and women to be able to choose their own mates instead of being forced into a arranged marriage.
2A even as recently as two hundred years ago. marriages were arranged by the parents. Even here in America, As well as Europe. I’m not just referring to royalty in Europe either
3. Gals being able to hold jobs as needed. In order to stop being a burden on their parents in a financial way
. This includes not making her father strapped for cash when she does get married.

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Well, it would be good if women doctors worked even near the same number of hours the male doctors do. That’s actually a huge problem. Arranges marriages seem to actually have a positive size oddly enough. Women can work as hard as they want to and have access to all jobs. They typically choose a better work life balance than men, and make less in the process.

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And? Feminists are trying to import the political systems and religions where these things are happening, so where are they really going with this? They’ll destroy their own culture, because no one wants to have enough kids to replace the people that pass away, and happily import and heap great respect on cultures that have a long history of treating women as second class citizens.

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He is indeed an inflexible asshole. After seeing 3 of his posts and I’m done. I thought he was speaking some sense in some videos but wow he is like a borderline american-hating submissive(almost slave-ish) women hunter who is hero for alpha male wannabes who downgrade any other male as ”beta and white knight” disagrees with him.

He is the reason why we have monstrous feminazis that hate anything carries XY genes.

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Again as I said to Doug… Better to be seen by a feminist as an inflexible asshole… than a
spineless wussified man pandering to womens every whim in hopes of
getting some poon.

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👍🏻

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Said the guy who enjoys his palm´s company more than another human being.

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Safer, women are taught by the culture that you’re garbage because of the sex you were born as, and it’s always an uphill battle to get any respect at all.

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Feminists often argue that evil patriarchal men who beat wives, discriminate against women, or hold nasty sexist opinions are the ones responsible for American women hating men.

Yet, this narrative flies in the face of the reality that when a red-pill man confronts a feminist with a critical argument rather than a sexual beggar who agrees with her, she goes into a kind of insulin shock because she’s never been criticized in the “patriarchal oppressive society” she’s lived in before. If such women really are living under oppression, why aren’t more men telling them off? How long would these women’s entitlement attitudes last in, say, Saudi Arabia?

Feminism is actually a warped extension of white male chivalrous patronage rather than a revolution against it. Spoiled, mostly bourgeois white women with a lot of time on their hands wanted to gripe about how oppressed they were. That’s all there is to it. It’s not that complicated and it fits the facts.

Times ARE changing. About 30 years ago, it was difficult to find men who dared to criticize feminism but now it seems the other way around: Most men have little use for pandering to feminism (since feminists treat ALL men like crap) and if this starts to move up through the socioeconomic chain to the alphas, that’s game over. Without western patriarchs to hand feminists so-called equality, how will their retain it?

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OK then. What is your opinion of women who do believe in actual equality, who are open to hearing the perspective of both men and women, and who consider themselves feminists? I can’t help but wonder if the word ‘feminist’ has been wrongly attached to the small group of people who don’t actually believe in equality, therefore giving the whole movement a bad name…

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I think that they are either amazingly naive or dishonest. I know men (including MRA’s) who fall into the same category (mostly in the naive category.) Here’s the thing: It’s not the man-hating bull dyke feminists that are the problem but rather the majority of women. Let’s break it down: most women like the idea of more money in the workplace and voting rights but crave the patriarchy the rest of the time. When their demands of men conflict with “equality” ideals they claimed to support, they get nasty and mean towards men. And they’re the best of the bunch. The majority of self-proclaimed feminists are victim feminists that ironically don’t see how their ideology is just an extension of white knight chivalous patriarchal patronage. “When will a white guy rescue me from evil white guys who don’t respect my ability to save myself?” And then there’s the man-haters that are the minority. And then finally in the super-minority, true equality feminists but at that point…

Isn’t the whole mess counterproductive for them too? The “opportunities” seemingly created by feminism (but instead, provided by a white male welfare state) has meant lower wages overall for nearly everyone and a higher cost of living. At best, it’s an “equality” that has lowered all boats INCLUDING for the tiny minority of true equity feminists.

The bottom line is that true equality feminism doesn’t work. Most women don’t want it and the supply of white knights (literally, at least by skin color) willing to throw themselves over a cliff in a noble gesture to women while the barbarians are at the gates (again, literally) dying off is an almost laughable situation.

Heck, the fact that you are this naive should make you pause for a moment and think about whether you deserve equality at all. You think it’s only a minority of man-hating feminists that are the problem. You don’t know how real people live. How they date, start relationships, families, and live their lives. Men go through humbling experiences all the time (I know I have.) I’m not going to save the world anytime soon. Lord knows you aren’t. I do know one thing for sure though: I’m not interested in saving feminism and that is quite a relief.

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Until you sprout ovaries, you aren’t really qualified to speak of “what most women want.”

You simply aren’t.

And honestly, anyone sporting a penis who feels emasculated by a woman speaking her mind, getting the same pay, etc… isn’t a man… and all this posturing and chest beating isn’t going to make him one.

I have no doubt that men go through horrible and humbling experiences, but sometimes fellas… it’s NOT ABOUT YOU.
Your gender has had thousands of years of All about You. Feminism is ONE instance in a world where you get your way about EVERYTHING ELSE… and you are going to cry about it?

That’s not healthy, my friend. You have issues.

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And there you go revealing that nice feminism is a myth. When confronted, you resort to a shaming ploy to demand men to man up and be good rescuers (while treating women as equals), stop being whiners and losers while simultaneously stop having, and I quote, “everything else”.

Aside from being a bad deal for men, obviously, feminism just doesn’t make sense. Women who think that gender equality is universal but they blame men for “everything else” and their status quo doesn’t survive outside of the chivalrous west or much of the time outside of the womyn’s studies departments on campus.

Equality means “womaning up”. No goodies. No handouts. No demands to be rescued by your oppressor. If I’m not qualified to speak for women, why should you be? Did they nominate you? Most women reject the feminist label and it’s feminism’s fault because it’s a hate movement. Plain and simple.

Finally, calling me your “friend” shows another level of insincerity on your part for someone whose whole worldview is disconnected from reality. I’ve been out there. I’ve seen the world.

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What goodies and hand outs are women getting? I see women getting child support and equitable division of marital goods during divorce cases. Child support is for the care of children which men are morally obligated to provide. Why are you men so resentful of paying for children you create? It’s not a handout it’s called feeding and clothing your offspring.

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Go get raped and murdered and dissolved in acid or something you disgusting toxic feminist whore aka waste of oxygen

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Someone’s feeling threatened. Awwww do you need a good cuddle toy? See only fear brings out a response like that. Why so afraid of not being able to dominate women? Competition that terrifying? Awwww I’m sorry. Roosh will nurse you to,sleep baby.shhhhhh don’t let the scary scary women rob you of your nap.

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Don’t worry Roosh in his fear will delete all my scary scary comments soon like he does all women. He’s just as frightened of our words as you are. You can offer him your nipple as soon as you are done with his. Then you will both feel safer.

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If he was a woman he would have called to cops on you by now. Woman UP!

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If feminism is supposed to be about equality, then an “equitable” division of marital goods should be half including the children.

FYI, before shaming me or other men for being so “resentful”, I have a friend at work whose ex-wife who was a drug abuser didn’t get custody of the kids (despite trying to demand sexist privileges in the courts). If the kids died in her care, the judge was going to be held responsible and being the cowardly jerk he was, he did the right thing (amazingly) and gave custody to my friend.

And surprise, surprise, the ex-wife didn’t want to pay her “child” support.

They’re all equal until the bills need to be paid or the lifeboats are lowered, eh?

But even beyond that, if feminism wants “independence” and equality away from the evil Patriarchy, it won’t get that as long as the western patriarchy pays the bills. You can’t have men earn all the money to support you and wonder why men stop paying the bills if they don’t. I call this thinking aborting your cake and having it too. (Get it?)

You want the state to keep it’s hands off of your body and men to not tell you what to do? Then start paying your own bills and spending less at the shopping mall. Oh, wait, you can’t. Forget it. Keep on railing against the Patriarchy. It’s going to be here for a while.

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Until the mid 1990s less than 50% of men paid child support. So yes some people shirk their resposabilities. What’s your point? Children need support. Whoever is the non custodial parent needs to pay support. I’m all for that. Before the 1990s 50% of divorced women were paying all the bills. 50% of men felt walking away and not feeding their children was an option. Also a good percentage of child support is woefully inadequate. A friend of mine gets the $115.00 a month in child support. Takes a bit more than that to raise a child. Sorry your one example of your one friend isn’t compelling to me.

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Another uncited statistic. What does it mean exactly? That 50% of men ORDERED to pay child-support didn’t pay it? Or that 50% of men who weren’t even identified as fathers on the Maury Pauvich show weren’t paying?

Consider this cite I found (you can look it up) that claims (in favor of women)

“Using 1153 court case records from 10 Minnesota counties in 1986, Christensen, Dahl, and Rettig (1990) examined the differences in treatment of non-custodial mothers and fathers by the courts. Christensen et al. (1990) found that non-custodial mothers pay child support less frequently than non-custodial fathers. More specifically, out of 114 non-custodial mother cases, 38 mothers paid support. When non-custodial mothers paid child support, they also paid less child support than non-custodial fathers (i.e., 20 percent of their income versus 25 percent of fathers’ income). Upon closer inspection, it was found that non-custodial mothers pay less because of their disproportionately low incomes in comparison with men.”

The latter argument that claims that women pay less “child” support than men because they don’t earn as much is moot because “child” support orders, even back then, were supposed to be adjusted for income. Indeed, many men have found that “child” support orders often required them to pay more in income than they actually brought home but nobody cared because there was profit in it.

And as you know, single mothers produce disproportionately more criminals than two parent households (even adjusting for income.)

One of the social benefits of feminism… (Perhaps to prevent rape, maybe single mothers shouldn’t raise so many of them? Just a suggestion.)

All that being said, if feminists supposedly want independence from the Patriarchy, stop asking for it to pay your bills. If it’s HER BODY (upper caps), and she doesn’t want to be married to the guy, then why ask him to pay for bills for “her” child. This is like you selling me your used car and then me asking you to pay for the gas because it’s still “your” car, right? Male abandonment isn’t an issue with feminism if the goal is for women to supposedly support themselves.

But they don’t. As both of us know. Because feminism is just an extension of chivalrous protection rather than a repudiation of it.

Oh, one more thing. No need to apologize for you wanting to hold your own views and not change your mind “Sorry your one example of your one friend isn’t compelling to me.”. I rarely find that people are truly sorry when their preferential narrative of the world remains unchanged. In the meantime, good luck with feminism ever taking root outside of the white male western world or surviving very long here. Oh, wait, I’m not really wishing you good luck either. smile

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Because women are given a choice and men are not, that simple, no equality.

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It’s actually never about us, “man up!”

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Feminism had a bad name the minute they asigned it the name Feminism. The word in itself is SEXIST. Break it down with liguistics. It literally means ‘to make feminine’. You cant get more anti-masculinity. The dictionary definition of Feminism is an idiot test. “Equality between the sexes” would imply a balance between masculinity and femininity. In English we would call that “Sexual Equalism”. Not Feminism. Therefore any person that ever believed that Feminism=the promotion of equality between the sexes, FAILED the idiot test. Because that is not at all what that fucking word means. So quit isulting our intelligence.

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tell that to your friend who is promoting neo masculinism

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My opinion of women who do believe in actual equality is the same as my opinion of Santa Clause. I dont believe they exist. Sure its nice when someone prends to be Santa Clause once a year but ill never delude myself into thinking he exists. Thats silly.

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The ones with the money, the power, the law and all the microphones, what kind of fool or idiot would believe that that is not the “real” feminism?

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Excellent post.

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That is mostly because feminism has led to the current West becoming third world shit. Social cohesion was much greater 30 years ago, back then people thought feminism was a way to protect women from a small percentage of men who mistreat them, when I mean mistreat, beating them up, treating them with disrespect, denying them basic rights.
The reality is feminism is a movement meant to emasculate men, and force them to kneel over to women even if they have not done any of those things. As a result many young men today do not want to be married. The birth rate of every Western country is below replacement level. Now every Western government supports the entrance of large numbers of third world migrants.

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Never, the Alphas/Elite with continue to hoard their special privileges sexual and otherwise and will continue to throw other men under bus.

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Agreed. Especially when becoming an elite is often due to sociopathic and psychopathic tendencies (such as Steve Jobs).

What I like to shock feminists with is when I tell them that they’re in the same boat. Socio/psychopaths are all about deception and they treat women just as bad as men if not moreso.

If it makes you feel any better, elite ivy school graduates are usually depressed because they realize that the elites strive to cut each other into pieces for the fun of it like a game of thrones. Eventually, the conflict rises up to meet them too.

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So you see him as an inflexible asshole. Good. A lot of women on the Internet see me that way too.

I am inflexible. You know who can flex me? My mentors, my teachers, people who actually know something and are not just a random person on the Internet.

Why the fuck should anyone flex to your opinions? Who the fuck are you? I am personally only concerned with myself, my own life, and those I care about in my tribe.

Society has really mind fucked people to think that we should actually give thought to the opinions and thoughts of others. Why?

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We’re not talking about the internet. We’re talking about real life, has not educated himself on feminism, would ‘backturn’ on any woman trying to ‘explain her opinion’, with no regard to whether that were on the internet, face-to-face or a mentor. I’d say that was more ignorance than inflexibility, though.

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Better to be seen by a feminist as an inflexible asshole than a spineless wussified man pandering to womens every whim in hopes of getting some poon.

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Gob Bless You Blake !

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This is an old topic but well worth continuing to discuss.

I thought about this as well since I met many naive young women who bought into feminism (namely, using the label to describe themselves). Any woman, even a naive one, who uses that label openly then rattles off a list of goodies they want by demonizing men (the most popular rationalization is the wage gap myth.)

In EVERY case, repeat, EVERY case an attempt to educate them that there is no real wage gap myth merely has them change the subject to one of their other “men are bad” talking points or call you an asshole and walk away. Every time. Even naive, stupid ones are in it for the goodies and this is a path down to man-hating.

Imagine if you met someone who was trying out heroin and said that it made them “smarter”. They had a number of talking points to justify their habit. In the end, they’re on a pathway to addiction so mincing words is actually harming them, not helping them.

The best thing to do with a feminist for an alpha male may be to simply call them what they are (man haters) and walk away and don’t talk to them anymore. If they want to argue with betas (like, er, me) fine but most such women will certainly give their life choice to be a feminist some careful thought if it means such a negative, radical consequence.

Even betas should try this because telling a woman off is alpha behavior. Don’t bother debating it. Underneath, they know that feminism is inevitably man-hating.

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Paranoid much

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Hahahaha!

This is a typical feminist as soon by most women:

Man at work says “good morning” to a woman.

She starts screaming: “Help! I’m being sexually harassed! Stop EVERYTHING else! I’m a victim! Waaaah!”

Feminism is about seeing a boogyman under every bed.

Except, of course, for German feminists getting raped by their ISIS immigrants at the train station. Feminists seem to enjoy that.

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Viral videos and the uneducated few in America do not count as ‘Typical Feminists’.

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Hello Susan,

I invite you to review the No True Scotsman fallacy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

Indeed, your very terminology “the uneducated few” is what makes feminism so unattracive to most mainstream: heterosexual women (most would rather say they’re in ISIS than feminists). Academic feminists, as a professor friend of mine would say, are perhaps the craziest of all who write up long dissertations on the Amazons and how a society can function without men, etc. They help hold the “take back the night” marches that don’t make a lot of sense (Will a rapist see such a march and go: “Oh no! Women are marching at night! I better not rape!”?)

Mainstream women who sympathize with feminism albeit not in name are out for a goodie grab: They like getting mo’ stuff such as voting rights, “equal” pay (more money whether equal or not) but they don’t like the idea of paying their own way, getting drafted, etc.

And those are the relatively “healthy” ones who are just selfish. Feminism was never a sincere equality movement and was a combination of goodiegrab, marxist/corporate dupes, or manhaters all along but now it’s ideologically dead but the corpse remains animated pumped by funds from the very western patriarchy it claims to oppose.

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I have yet to meet a Feminist who isn’t a man-hating lesbian. So far all the ones I have met are.

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Really mate? You need to talk to more people.

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You must not talk to many women then.
Considering any woman who believes in equal rights for men and women is a feminist.

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There’s a word for someone who believes in equality: egalitarian. Perhaps you’re being naive (that’s my first impression) but feminism is the notion of “equality” in the sense of women as victims and therefore entitled to special treatment to be equal. It’s a classic psychopath viewpoint.

Many psychopaths (not all of them are axe murderers. Many of them make perfect CEO’s or managers) see the world in terms of how “fair and equal” means entitlements based upon what they have earned and they’re lawyerlike masters of rationalizing how they’re victims, or better, or deserve more than someone else and that’s “equal”. Since other people may not see the world in terms of them being great and entitled to everything, that makes other people, to them, “unjust” and selfish OR they’re naive and stupid (which is another reason to dupe them). So other people are either dupes, or jerks.

Here’s the thing: the significant “rights” have been achieved: equal pay (for actual REAL equal work, not sitting at home taking care of your own kids and demanding to be paid the same as a doctor) and voting rights. Everything else modern feminists demand is about special stuff for women: Men don’t have “abortion rights” for ourselves we aren’t sharing. Or getting “free daycare” for ourselves and not sharing again. Feminism is a goodie grab at best and a man hating movement at worse. Or in general, a lot of women are just naive and buy into it. Perhaps you’re in the latter category but I suspect not in that they don’t realize themselves how getting goodies as a victim isn’t really equality and then lash out in defense when confronted.

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A man’s character must be rigid. Any bending will cause it to break. There is no room for compromise.

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lol, you’re such a faggot, holy shit.

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I found out that I’m not the only feminist who is a stay at home mom. Before becoming one. I talked it over with my husband to see what would work the best for us.
Heck, I even for our kid’s first five months breastfed her. Couldn’t after that. Due to me having Stage IV breast cancer back in early 2005. And the doctor, he informed us it was triggered by the pregnancy.

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Does your husband know you hate him? Otherwise you’re not a “true” feminist.

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If I hated my husband. I would be a feminazi.
True feminists realize that both men and women are equal. True feminists do NOT hate men. We just hate inequality.
Feminazis hate men. Feminazis like my ex-boss, and my other coworkers at a knick-knack store I worked at for a few months. Thank goodness I escaped from there.

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Nah. They are just easy targets. Fuck a chuck them when you have no other options that night. Just don’t give them any money or respect.

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This is why men have it so hard, because this bullshit. Morons who think fuck ’em and chuck ’em is the answer. That gives them more ammunition and motivation. Just stone cold reject them, like he says in this article.

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Mine is if your a liberal, a feminist, or supporter of genocide even by Israel… we cannot be friends. wink

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What about genocide against Israel? Not only can you and I not be friends, I will punch you in your stupid fucking nose if you ever accuse Israel of genocide in my presence. Now GFY, loser.

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Yaspar… your threatening physical violence because I dont support Israel or its genocide of the Palestineans or any genocide?

Your threatening me cuz I dare to open my mouth and point out the truth ?

I hope we do meet then. So I can say to you Israel is guilty of Genocide…. down with Israel… because I hate all genocide.

You can try to punch me in my nose, but I will fight you to the death over it… because I know Israel is my enemy and Israel is the enemy of the entire non-jewish world.

Ive read your fucked up bigoted Talmud.
And from reading it and the hate thats in it… I understand why Jews
have been kicked out of every country they have been welcomed into in
the last 1000 years!

You guys had to have your Isreal because you cause problems, and poverty , and deception and death every where you guys go….

you & Israel are a problematic country…. that the world might be at peace if you didnt exist.

Everything your people have said about Germany, the Nazis and Adolf Hitler is a lie.

But
I understand clearly why Das Fuhrer helped your zionist masters
encourage your people to leave europe for Palestine … when the plan to
steal it from the Palestineans was put into action to give to you to be
Israel.

Genocide is wrong…. wrong… wrong…. and Israel’s genocide of Palestineans or any gentile… is un-acceptable!

You punch my nose… and you will die.
Free Palestine…. long live old Germany…
Sig Heil.
and GFY Yaspar jew buttfker evil genocidal vicious jew.

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Its always the violent ones

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Isreal,is totally committing genocide friend.

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One of the dangers of pump and dump is that feminists have succeeded in this modern era to partly criminalize male heterosexual activity. If she gets angry and decides she was fooled and shouldn’t have had sex with him, that’s “rape” in her opinion and she’ll embellish the story and call the police. Or even more unexpectedly, maybe she’ll just try to get him arrested for kicks because she’s in the mood that day to destroy a man.

Yes, that’s how psycho feminists can be.

Women have sexual assets they trade for what they want from men. Money is just one thing men offer. Other things men offer is validation and even conversation (my wife likes talking with her women friends but finds that they simply can’t give her an honest, thoughtful perspective that I as a man will offer). Perhaps it does make sense to dump feminists out of our lives completely, even as friends, so that they can experience what a “matriarchy” is like and maybe get “scared straight”. The younger, the better.

As red-pill men leave these shrews alone, these women will take out their frustrations on the remaining white knight pussies who deserve what they get and I am seeing this more and more. Feminists treat male feminists far worse than we would sentence these collaborators to.

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What’s truly dangerous is this mindset as you will attract the same vibrations as you put out. Thank goodness you’re married and (hopefully) not out there fucking chicks while having this mentality because this is a sure way to attract the trouble you speak of.

The truth is with a carefree vibration you don’t have to worry about this. Trust me, cops treat false rape accusations very seriously. All cops? I don’t know but I know that some don’t tolerate girls trying to turn buyers remorse into a rape case.

You have to take precautions of course, but you cannot live with that mentality that the feminists are out to get you. Been there done that trust me I know what I’m talking about.

Whenever I feel my vibration for some reason or other meandering around those highly destructive mindsets I steer clear of women altogether until I can change the energy I’m putting out.

The true frame is I’m not the guy feminists are angry at, and if they are it’s only online because they are trolls on the Internet.

I’ve met girls who are feminists that claim to love me, etc. and not be psycho. I’m like “I bet their trolling dudes online like Jennifer Li.” LOL. and also note it probably isn’t a good idea to date them.

But pump and dump is a real stupid fucking thing to do. If you enjoy having sex with a girl why ditch her and never do it again? There’s a real lack of respect there and problem IMO. Unless she sucked in bed or ended up being a stalker or psycho or something.

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Hello Alex. I read your comment twice because I want to be fair with your response and not jump to conclusions. I even rewrote it twice. I hope the third time is a charm.

It seems we agree more than disagree. Reading through, you advocate not pump and dumping because it’s “stupid” which is what I said: Because society, whomever is to blame, encourages women to go psycho. Where we disagree is where you advocate the mentality of “blame the victim”, so to speak, for red-pill/alert men that “this is a sure way to attract the trouble you speak of.”

I have heard this from feminists as a trick to try to eliminate opposition: Men who are cautious “attract” bad women so it’s their fault. When a bad woman rolls him into the gutter, it’s also his fault for being careless. Personally, I may have provoked a woman into filing a BS sexual harassment claim against me because she knew I was hardcore but the vast majority of the rest of the time, crazy women steered far clear of me much like the way a car thief targets a car with little security as compared to cars with alarms and LoJack in the same lot. The worst risk of a “negative energy” guy is simply not getting laid. (BTW, because I was red-pill, I kept a level head and refused to apologize or accept blame for the SH claim and argued that it was frivilous, silly, and a form of retaliation and documented why. Management took my side and reprimanded her for making a bad-faith claim).

Regarding feminists being angry at certain men. Dude, they’re angry at all of us as men but it’s not personal or even due to any particular man. But that’s a whole other topic we could dive into.

About the police: Usually they are ok but again, you have to have a level head and hope luck is on your side. One gal I knew went crazy, no provocation from me, and called police during the heat of an argument claiming I “shoved” her. She had grabbed me and I pushed gently to let go and walked off. The policewoman tried to trick me to confess I had “shoved” her, even not meaning it, and I refused to budge. Without evidence, they dropped the matter but it was clear that if I had tripped up, I would have a police record now. The police then then said that because of the call, they recommended kicking her out of my place. She had calmed down by then and picked up her stuff and left. I thank the police in hindsight for ridding me of a potential problem. (Losing her temper and then calling the police was NOT acceptable!!!)

Only by being “red pill” that whole time was I able to defend myself. If I was a “nice guy” and “carefree”, I might have blurted the wrong thing and been taken for a ride (literally). I know tons of “carefree” guys in my youth that have not been as cautious as me and they got rolled. One reason I married a lovely woman was that by my age, most men were either married (carefree) but a lot also were wounded victims of bad women on a rampage and useless to a woman such as my wife for marriage material. They didn’t want other women’s throwaways.

I agree that one should “drive while angry” or date while angry either. Many women truly are innocent (after all, they didn’t make this culture anymore than you or I did) so we have to give them a benefit of a doubt. But… we are entitled to defend ourselves just as reasonable women don’t meet a new guy she’s met for a date at his place if she has security concerns. Actually, I think my red-pill mentality helps to project a powerful energy (not necessarily positive) in that I don’t feel as much anger anymore but so much as determination. And women find that to be a turn on. Sure, anger in the short run turns them off (especially bitterness) since crybabies are not powerful, but in the long run, trying to be a “clown” as Roosh puts it, is emotionally draining in its own way. I’m reminded of a recent thread on RoK about working in retail draining men because one has to be “nice” to customers all day. sometimes, I want to be a bit of a jerk and a reasonable woman should be willing to deal with that. It also helps to discourage them from making shit tests.

Finally, about “pushing” sex on women. I’m married as you know but sometimes, I just pester my wife for it even if she’s not in the mood (and means it) because she’s my wife. (Note, I don’t bother her if she’s ill or tired from work or something like that). After she finally gives in and gives me my way, I think she enjoys those sessions more than normal. It’s a real turn on for her that I pushed her. Of course, if a woman is playing a “no means yes” game during dating or other psycho behavior or just passive, that’s another matter.

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You misunderstand what I am saying, because of this: “I have heard this from feminists as a trick to try to eliminate opposition”

Feminists do not possess the self-awareness and education of the Universe and the mind and the world around them to be using what I am telling you as a way to trick anybody.

In fact, I say the same to feminists. I have encountered women on YouTube who say things like one told me she has been raped by every man they ever dated, and it started with their grandfather when they were 14. And a major victim. Men are just evil beings who exist to abuse women.

I blame her, as the victim, because she is owning that role, the way most people should own themselves and their own awesomeness in order to have healthy self-esteem and confidence. She is doing the opposite. And in putting so much focus on that, she is creating her own toxic life. She is attracting all these rapists to her.

Now I can get so deep it can blow your mind and then even go way further than you ever wished to go, but trust me on this– We get what we focus on.

The thing you said about negative energy guys just don’t get laid as the worst thing that can happen. To AFCs or nice guys, yes, that’s true. But look at Real Social Dynamics and what they teach. Look at how many gurus teach to be aggressive. To cave man kino etc.

It is not hard to see that the worst that can happen there clearly is being labelled a sexual offender.

It is all about the mindset that you have, and your vibration, and this is why I said if my energy is bad I stay away from women completely, because I don’thave that approach anxiety to stop me from just going up and doing shit.

The best way is to not put yourself in that situation in the first place. It is very easy for guys to feel threatened by feminism and all the misandry they throw at us. Truth is, I have met some feminists and they loved me and they qualified themselves saying “I’m not crazy like those other feminists”. I don’t remember if I said that. but I would think they probably are some of the worst internet trolls LOL.

Truth is all women want is to be treated fairly and appreciated and acknowledged and lot of them are frustrated because of this. Some are frustrated beyond repair. Just like a lot of guys are AFCs and some are beyond hope. completely uncoachable, and in some sad cases end up going on a shooting spree (Elliott Rodger)..

You, however, must stick to a healthy opinion of yourself and the frame that those women who have grievances with douche bags isn’t about you. Because you’re an awesome dude. And well some women are delusional nut bags. Okay. Cool. (Actually not cool but whatever smile and just say you stay out of my yard and we’re cool. The minute you come in my yard we’re gonna have some problems.

And you call the police on them. And you take action against them if they violate you.

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Sigh. I again had to rewrite my response because I want to be as clear and fair with you as possible. I hope I did a good job.

We go through a number of things that are related but kind of separate. The notion of men being red-pill and “negative” and inviting bad behavior from women and women and feminism overall.

The biggie we kind of agree/disagree on is whether men “invite” bad behavior from women by being hostile or suspicious of feminism and that our defenses trigger attacks. That’s true in extreme cases, as I’ve acknowledged (if you’re seething with hatred, then you can’t have a constructive relationship, agreed!) but aside from that, acknowledging the society we live in is a misandric hate fest with entitlement queens around us is, as I said, not going to make getting laid much more difficult especially in the long run. Women treat wimps far worse than they treat anti-feminists. Heck, let’s try this logic: If being a nice blue-pill guy resulted in women treating men better, why would men decide to be red-pill? With a society that’s full of blue pill guys, shouldn’t women in the states have a reputation for being the happiest?

Regarding the rape-chick you mention. I think she probably is a woman who actually seeks out rapists or makes up stories to get attention. Google the “Holly Collins” case and video “No way out but one”. Poor beta males one after another sympathized with this shark and got accused of being wife beaters so she could get attention. She now has a Manson family following claiming family courts are biased against women. It would hilarious if it wasn’t so insane.

I balk at your claim that it’s “all about the mindset that you have”. This is bunk sold by people who like to tell someone that if they only become happy then they’ll get what they want and the person tries to be happy, rather than address the core issue that REALLY is at the root of his problem, and it doesn’t work and he winds up miserable. It’s like bad diet advice too.

Much of the time, the best thing a guy can do to get more tail is to work out and improve his health, get some nice clothes, and pick his venues properly. That’s 90 percent of it. So when what you claim is “all about” is actually only about 10 percent, I call BS.

Regarding “threatened by feminism” and man hating/angry/entitled women feeling frustrated by sexism, I again call BS. Actually, the hyper chivalrous culture we live in combined with continual feminism all around us much like Sweden means that these women actually have entitlement attitudes rather than actual frustration dealing with anti-woman sexism. Like the supposed rape victim you mention above, they seek out sexism (or the slightest hint of it) to validate their justification for increased entitlements. They are well aware CONSCIOUSLY they live in a hyper chivalrous environment and when rarely called out by an anti-feminist, they react with shock that there’s a man whose life doesn’t revolve around validating her world view.

Feminism is a product of entitlement, not oppression. If you get NOTHING from this conversation, make sure you retain that.

I agree it’s not about “me” as I said since feminists and entitlement queens live in a universe probably where they remain disconnected with reality as you and I see it. Imagine if a baby was spoiled and then this extended their whole life where mommy and daddy said they could do ANYTHING they wanted and HAVE IT ALL and nothing was EVER their fault. Oh, wait, that’s basically what many women in the states were raised with. It’s no wonder a lot of them are psychos. We can’t “blame” them as monsters because that’s a product of their upbringing but we should be cognizant of it and see which ones are worth reforming and which ones are either beyond hope or just not worth it.

Fair enough?

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Awesome. Love what you just wrote. Amen!

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Just stay far away from women at all times not required for work and I bet you will be safe.meveryine will be happier. Trust me. Please far far away. Good boy

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Exactly. The word feminism has been equated with “anti-sex man hater” and attractive men soon get that message. Note: I don’t consider myself attractive. But I do know attractive guys and after they’ve been burned (or seen other men burned) by women such as they, they do “get the message”.

And that message is passed onto women who then learn that using the feminist label winds up meaning they have to be “independent” and pay for their own dinners and diamonds. Hence, most women reject it.

Good going feminism!

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I bet your bosses treat you like garbage too without you even questioning it. And you don’t even get to fuck them. And they don’t even need to call the police to get you doing whatever the fuck they want. It’s easier to make up a fantasy of a monster than questioning power, or even worse, understanding resistance to power. Let’s jerk off thinkin’ about the return of the kings instead…

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or the queens…

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Hi LOL. I see you have a 7 comment history. Either you’re a troll using multiple aliases or this is your first skirmish into a bigger world.

In answer to your question, I just had a confrontation with my boss and he threatened to fire my butt. I have about 5 months until my review so I have time to work it out with him. I have had take-down fights with my old lady where I told her off and then after calming down, we worked it out.

It wasn’t always that way. When I was younger I “aimed to please” and was a nice guy and got treated like dirt for it. I’m still a nice guy because I enjoy doing good things for people and making the world a better place. It’s sad that people have this dark side where they treat those who do well for them badly and laud “bad boys”.

Take care!

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Then she will probably blame 50% of the planets population for one guy who fucks and dumps her

Feminism is worse than racism srsly

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Feminists actually tend to be very racist too.

Alexander Rose
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Feminism is worse than toxic waste.

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Sort of like,you are blaming 50% of the population . Neo masculinism is as bad a racism

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That is the way it is these days, it just does not pay to be a gentlemen anymore. I do not even hold doors open for women or give up my seat on the bus for them. Fuck that shit.

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Good that shit feels weird most women don’t like it. I don’t need to be treated like a child or that I’m fragile

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Hope you wind up with a Muslim that treats you really good in that case.

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No worries, official feminism is in love with the religion of peace, they’re racing as fast (as blindly? or stupidly?) as possible to get women second class citizen status again.

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No worries, official feminism is in love with the religion of peace, they’re racing as fast (as blindly? or stupidly?) as possible to get women second class citizen status again.

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holding the door for someone carrying stuff is just good manners, you should learn some

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hmm think you need to look at the stats around Argentina. I lived there for awhile and got involved in student politics with Peronists in Cordoba. The fact the a vast number of them have dual nationality and can flee the country as they did during the last financial crisis indicates a much larger middle class that you might think.

Also consider the fact Argentine writers get a living allowance from the state. No other country in the world affords such an extravagance.

I’ve been to Brazil also and tbh most there is massive inequality there and not much of a middle class. I hung out with one chick who lived in Leblon and told me she’d never been on a public bus in her life.

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BOOM!!

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I think in addition one should never enter a relationship with any woman over 28, as this only serves to embolden women into thinking they can ride the cock carousel during their best years and still find some beta to take them.

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What do you do when she is hot, roosh?

I have a even better suggestion: Fuck her

hahaha

[Roosh: “Hot” feminist? :laugh: ]

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I’ve never understood the Manosphere’s preoccupation with not fucking feminists because…

THEY’RE FUCKING UGLY.

I’ve never even met one I would objectively rate above a 4. Why would you even consider fucking one? Why do you need to write so many articles telling men not to have sex with feminists? If a man has any standards, he won’t go there simple as.

I’m a masculine man. I like feminist women. Feminists are anything but feminine. Young, pretty girls have no need for feminism. End of.

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Yet feminists who are ugly are riding the ” cock carousel”? How could that be were too ugly. We’re sleeping around all the time yet are much too ugly to get laid? Which is it?

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Because there are men that will have sex with anything. It has always been thus. (unpaid) Sex is much more difficult for men to obtain than women, which is why men with a high count are called studs and women with the same high count are called sluts.

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Because there are men that will have sex with anything. It has always been thus. (unpaid) Sex is much more difficult for men to obtain than women, which is why men with a high count are called studs and women with the same high count are called sluts.

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Great stuff. Usually this isn’t hard to do since feminists don’t look like Kate Upton most of the time.

I’d also that any women who advertises herself as a feminist on an online dating site needs to be told where she can go ASAP.

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I like FEMININE women, not FEMINIST… Nice typo on my behalf.

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Very true, but that type of woman is now a minority in the US and English speaking countries. I think Western European women are almost as bad but still not as screwed up as those in English speaking countries.

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NO! europian femists are as worst as americans as any feminazis in this world.

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Its better to visit a prostitute for sex, and get a dog for emotional support. Most women these days give you zero emotional support, fuck them and forget them.

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man, i don’t need emotions if i can keep my child and my money when i get divorced, there is absolutely no benefit for a man to gain from marriage, the man pay and support everything to start, and when things goes wrong you lose everything, your children your house your money and if you dont have money you’ll be jailed for that and you now who cares about you ? NO ONE, you’re a wallet and a pig to them, and your aka “soul mate” she will not give a damn about you, she will rip your heart with the protection of the law and have a big smile on her face.

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Yes, it’s all on you. They make it as hard as having a second job and think that’s a good thing, revenge for historical oppression etc etc

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LOL i caught that. Nice save.

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lol… completely reversed your meaning!

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Co-signed.

It’s not too hard to do really, since feminists women almost never have beautiful appearances or bearable personalities.

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Left-wing tactics will not work for our essentially right-wing goals. A sexual Montgomery Bus Boycott of feminists isn’t going to work, not least because we have no vehicle for pressuring a critical mass of men into participating. For every feminist harpy you throw back in the water there will be at least four men waiting to reel her in. Perhaps those men will be lower-value and a disappointment to the women—but contrary to the theory of this post, that will only further embitter the women. It will not make them “think twice.” We know this because we’ve already seen it. The feminists have created a world where compelling men are far rarer than they used to be—and most of them show no sign whatever of thinking twice.

The irony is that it will take real men to fuck them back into sanity, if that’s possible. But then, real men will not form relationships with them, and the “dump” part of the pump-and-dump will hurt and embitter them, reinforcing the feminism.

I am tempted to go in the complete opposite direction, and say that we should go out there and find the feminists (the thin ones I mean) and date the hell out of them, make them feel like women for once in their lives. But, that would be (1) extremely unpleasant and (2) extremely risky, for all the usual reasons. So, with feminist chicks, no last names, and be sure to bag your Jimmy, Jim.

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This is pretty much what I think.. fuck em back into acting right. Show them the proof that they want to be dominated, and not have an emasculated man.

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This has already been tried.

One significant problem with this paradigm is that when you “dominate” a woman in order to keep her from treating you like crap, you’re not really dominating her but rather submitting to HER fantasy. Heck, feminism is one big BDSM fantasy of an evil Patriarchal western white male elite depriving her of equality while lavishing her with political and economic treats.

If a BSDM dungeon master of a feminist is just off his game a little, by the slightest amount, the feminist will be blowing her rape whistle to the police in a matter of minutes.

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Oh god I just had to call a girlfriend and read this to her. We both laughed our asses off. Are you in the fourth grade? Too fucking funny. Seriously the men on here. Comic relief at every turn.

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“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
I guess we were at the laughing stage 2 years ago.

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In economies and social movements, there are cycles that have to be followed. An alcoholic doesn’t consider going to rehab after being late for work one morning. It takes losing his family, car, home, dog and job to make him hit bottom and change.

And yes, change is happening. A few decades ago, I don’t think I ever would have seen a website “women against feminism” or women rejecting feminism openly. Feminists in the media are chattering like nuts about how betrayed they feel by young women who don’t want to be man-hating materialistic shrews.

In general, pretty women mostly do not embrace feminism almost certainly by label. They don’t feel a need to bash men to get ahead since men are already willing to be there for them. Feminism is a movement for ugly and plain women who resent the beauty of better women . In a way, it’s a beta movement for women just as red-pilling is a movement for beta men.

After telling a beta woman that you’re dumping her for being a feminist, and if she’s learned enough of a lesson to ask why, tell her that she has value (she could be a good wife and mother) but not with the current attitude she has. It’s something that will resonate in her mind as the years go by and she’ll pass onto younger women (since women share ALL information we give them.)

It may take time, but it can happen. It’s certainly better than giving women what they demand in the hope they change on their own.

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Unfortunately feminism is the water we all swim in. Women can’t help but get “wet” (not in a good way), making all their relationships with the oppressor sex more “challenging” than they have to be and much less fulfilling (where have all the “good” men gone, you’ve killed them!). A lot of men just don’t appreciate being treated like garbage, even now.

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I just saw a funny comment that I responded to on a semi-closed facebook group “God Emperor Trump (Official)” where a princess type (not a feminist, but a princess) argued men should pay for dates because it costs money for her to be pretty.

A white knight posted that he “likes” to pay because he’s a “gentleman” and well mannered and it’s no big deal.

So I said that if 80 bucks was no big deal, he could send 80 bucks to my paypal account.

He didn’t like that idea.

So a lot of guys are out there like that: They have been trained by women to clown-game them and in order to put on the act and save face, they eventually believe the clown routine is real.

So it’s not really feminism is my point but rather due to a “free market” dating marketplace where most men have been raised either by white knights, women, or the media to be a**-clowns begging for p*ss*.

This transcends “feminism” as we know it. Ironically, it really is due to something known as Hugh Hefner’s “Playboy Philosophy”.

The “red pill” involves accepting some hard truths up front for future growth and happiness later. It’s like lifting weights and exercise. Delayed gratification.

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It shouldnt stop there. Dont bang attention whores, entitled princesses and girls who dance with iphones.
In short, do not bang anyone from the West, more or less.

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Amen !

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I totally agree with this. Herein is described the only rational course of action. Boycott. And they (feminists) need to know why they’re being boycotted.
Alas, I fear, the line may be too difficult to toe for most men. We will see if American men have the balls to fight for a principle.

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i don’t understand the manosphere’s tendency to make a complete straw man out of feminism. there are certainly some aspects of feminism, notably second wave feminism, that have been detrimental to western society. Andrea Dworkin and her assertion that all penetrative sex is coercive is a great example of this.

however, most academic feminists are very smart people making nuanced assertions. if you disagree with those assertions, that’s fine – i probably do too. but to rebut these assertions you need to understand exactly what it is they’re saying, and combat it intelligently. merely walking away from a woman who calls herself a feminist isn’t intelligent nor helpful. it’s the exact equivalent of a person immediately dismissing the entire PUA/dating science community without actually understanding what everyone is trying to say.

most arguments against feminism i’ve seen in the manosphere can be reduced to “hurr durr feminists are ugly and they cause hot girls to not want to fuck me wahhhhh.” that’s not going to get the job done, gentlemen. you must remember that back when men were men they also had the capacity of rational and intelligent academic criticism, as well as all the masculine qualities we’re attempting to reacquire.

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This sounds like something a feminist would want to say: Anyone who criticizes feminism doesn’t “understand” it and feminism was “nice” at one time.

Bullshit.

From the beginning, it was a racist bourgeois white woman goodie grab. The women’s vote took long to pass because politicians were concerned that women might get drafted as part of equality. All feminist “equality” goals take longer than expected because feminists constantly try to find ways to either weasel out of the responsibilities OR bash men as villains to justify special privileges for women.

This has been going on from the beginning.

Ironically, all feminists end their critique of anti-feminists with a damsel-in-distress shaming ploy: “No anti-feminist is a REAL man”. Yeah, real convincing there. Feminism isn’t just man-hating, it also doesn’t make sense.

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Be sure that once you make the mistake of sex with a feminist, next week you’ll get arrested following a false rape accusation from her, plus inevitably some sweet STDs for you

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This fight cannot be won this way. Feminist and attention whores are now beyond reach, they will fight to the death for their right to attentionwhore. Their main goal in life is to destroy men. They now see men as beneath them.
It’s like trying to reconvert a jehovas witness or a season taleban warrior.
Only thing that might be able to save us is mass female immigration from southeast asia, south america and africa.
After that the princesses would lose all power, and would either have to change or simply just vanish without anyone even noticing.

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No Tom, I don’t know about South America but Females from Asia (Majority of them) are Shit Holes, Inferior, Low-Pride, Arrogant, Opportunistic, Manipulative and Nasty Bitches. There are more “Manginas” in Asia than in the West.

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I agree with a lot of what Roosh says, but I think this article is really informative. Being a feminist means nothing more than supporting equal rights for men and women. Read the first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry if you don’t believe me:

“Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and social rights for women.[1][2] This includes seeking to establish equal opportunities for women in education and employment. A feminist advocates or supports the rights and equality of women.”

I think the brand of feminism Roosh is against is the more radical feminism or separatist feminism, that I am absolutely against. It’s important to distinguish the difference so that when people hear the word “feminism” they aren’t automatically against it, or think of the negative annotations Roosh will mention.

I’m no white knight or feminist crusader, but I do hope going forward the correct term is defined. It will only add to the credibility of this site and what is espoused.

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You deny being a white knight but you act like one. By the same token, feminists almost never live up to the definition of “mere” equality as they demand goodies for women while bashing men.

Feminism is man-hating. Pure and simple. Just because a white knight chivalrous patriarchy is so protective of women that it puts a false definition in the dictionary doesn’t change that. People are how they behave and act. You are a white knight. Good luck with groveling for women for the rest of your life.

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Male feminists will definitely fight to the last breath to defend the dictionary definition of feminism despite all the counter evidence that keeps pouring out of establishment feminist publications. Feminism is female advocacy, full stop. Anything else, including the welfare of children, are secondary considerations.

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I define feminism as the notion that a woman should do as she pleases, without negative consequences of any kind, provided by the elite patriarchy they claim oppresses them while directing their wrath against the working class men (and their wives and children) who have nothing to do with the matter.

I dislike the term female advocacy because that almost sounds likable. What’s bad about advocating something? It’s more like female entitlement. And this all predates feminism back during “chivalry” era that this whole mess started.

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good point

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“mis-informative” …apologies.

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No need to apologize. As a male who has caused all the problems in the world and needs to give women everything they want while praising them as equals, oh, wait, you do need to apologize.

For everything.

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I’m with Roosh with the caveat that it is high quality men should not date feminists. But since they don’t already, nothing needs to change. Low quality guys are so desperate that they will take whatever they can get. What we need is to just keep bringing attention to the fact that high value men prefer beautiful feminine women. And that it is low quality men who date feminists. We need to wake people up to what the facts already are, instead of perpetuating the ridiculous fairy tale that we are taught. Then women won’t want to be feminists because it will be seen as low status, that is what will motivate the status conscious.

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Perhaps what drives feminists the most crazy is when a beta male is seen with a much higher quality female because he has taken the red pill. This is why they went batshit when men started chasing after foreign women.

Thirty year old spinsters with advanced degrees would see a “loser” they rejected a few years before come back with what looks like a supermodel from Eastern Europe and she loves him (not just going to use him for money like she planned to do with an alpha she was waiting for.) Except, she lost on both counts: She didn’t get to bang and rob the alpha AND the loser she dumped is better off than her.

Considering the strong entitlement attitudes of such women, it must super enrage them.

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So much so that they are have arranged laws to punish men that do that.

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True but they are poorly enforced and have a ton of loopholes.

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In addition, we should NOT have sex with Feminist bc they are terrible in bed:

“not this way bc it hurts!”

“don’t hit my ass”

“dont grab my hair”

They are able to make sex a shit

To the last one I had to say “Fuck yourshelf bich”, and go my way

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… You’re angry that people don’t always like the same things as you in sex?

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nailed it again. damn. for those who think it’s worth it to have a freebie, think again. you’re complicit in this mess then. cut them off and starve the beast and don’t take the Faustian bargain. yes, it’ll mean more work for you but a better society overall. if you don’t give a damn about society, then just go ahead and bang away but you’re part of the problem

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If she’s pretty enough to date, she’s probably not a “real” feminist but merely confused. Re-educate her.

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you got a better option, fuck them and dump them like the bitches they are razz

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“Girl: “It’s too bad that men still make more than women.”
Me: “I’m a man and if it benefits me I’m all for it.”
Girl: “What?”
Me: “If it benefits me, that’s all I care about. I have no intention of ever being anything other than a man, so women can worry and complain all they want, as long as it benefits me, I’m all for it.”

Too many men waste time paying lip service to women and what they say. Whatever a woman is saying is bull-sh*t – she is just spouting non-sense. That is what women do. Let her – as long as at the end of the the night she’s in your bed, it’s to your advantage. I’ve found that in general if I piss them off, that anger and emotion tends to get them turned on. Not always – but enough. And that is all that I care about…

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Bravo idea It never occurred to me that simply conceding your a patriarchal asshole rather than arguing against their man-hating paradigm might turn them on. Wish I had thought of and tried it!

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Yet women are evil for promoting things which benefits them. Interesting

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Feminists… not women, because they lie about what they are actually after.

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I strongly disagree on this. Feminists are powerless unless men give them power. All of the Presidents of the United States have been men. The Senate and House are overwhelmingly men. The vast majority of CEOs of large companies are men. All the highest ranking generals in the military are men. The police, firemen, doctors, lawyers, judges, etc. are made of of mostly men. The fact is that feminists only have power BECAUSE MEN GIVE IT TO THEM. Men vote for politicians that create unfair divorce laws and child custody laws. PoliceMEN listen to women who make false rape accusations. Judges (who are mostly male) impose unfair alimony on other men, to the benefit of women. To change all this men don’t have to do anything to women. Women are inconsequential. Men just have to convince other men to stop selling them out.

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Good idea- will not work. Guys will not do this if the girl is a 7 or up. However, a better strategy is no commitment or marriage if they are a feminist. So pump and dump,and then tell them it’s because they are a feminist.

Also, I recommend testing if they are a feminist first. Girl told me last week that she was a “woman” not a “girl.” So I shit tested her- “Do you spell that with a y, like womyn.” Her, “no!.. I’m guess I’m not really a feminist.”

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Spelling makes a woman a feminist?

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“Being a feminist means nothing more than supporting equal rights for men and women.”

What is “means” is irrelevant. What it IS is important.

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I talked to a girl who works in a store. And it was in Latin America. And she said “can you let me call for 1 minute with your phone?” And I said “if you give me a kiss”. Then she thought I was really bad and the other working girl thought so too.
But I think I was nice. Because I have seen in USA the men always help women but never other men. She also said she see me as a friend but wanted to go to the cinema with me. Then I said I do not pay for cinema for girls who see me as a friend.

Do you agree with me Roosh?

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You’re asking advice from a single man who lives in his mama’s basement .

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None of you guys read the article clearly . Roosh says ignore them but still you are giving this whore the attention she seeks by even responding once . If no one replied she would have dwelled to eat her own self up. The biggest fear of all feminist is no one gives them the attention they seek. If you find yourself arguing with women you don’t understand them

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@Comment 27

It’s a very good point that the apex alphas (either political or sexual) are very in favor of feminism because it frees up women economically to unleash their hypergamy and emboldens or pressures them to fuck more promiscuously. So feminism is a bunch of female supremacy BS but we should never forget the puppet masters at a higher level that want all this to happen. They love getting more pussy, votes, cheap labor and consumers.

And the post in my username talks more about that.

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I think most women would have these equality opinions in their hearts and minds yet don’t feel the need to speak it, but any chick who brings up these topics on a first meet with a guy is probably not a feminist but a feminazi. In which case, yeah, she needs to be educated.

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Feminists believe the penis is a rape-weapon, so this is probably decent enough if advice, if you happen to drunkenly stagger into a lesbian bar to do your pickups

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Idiot. Stop generalizing about a few radfems on the fringes. Real feminists despise them just as much as you do.

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You do not get to decide what a “real” Feminist is and isn’t.

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Dude seriously you have no clue what feminists think.

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@jihad:
No rebuttal will work against a true believer. Tearing a feminist’s argument apart might influence somebody who’s on the fence on the issue, but won’t affect the feminist’s conviction. The best way to convince most people to drop an ideology (not just feminism, but pretty much any ideology) is not by convincing them it’s incorrect and based on falsehoods, but by making it inconvenient to believe in that. Appeal to emotions and social status will trump logic and facts pretty much always, specially when talking to women.

Not that I fully agree with the article, though. First, there are plenty of women who consider themselves to be feminists without being Jezebel style nutcases. Someone who thinks women should be able to vote and work outside the home might consider herself a feminist based only on that, even if she finds the whole “rape culture”, “fat pride”, “male privilege”, etc. completely ridiculous.

Second, most of the women who have this happen to them will just hamster it away by telling themselves “Good riddance, he was a creepy loser and I didn’t like him anyway. Now pass the ice cream”. I have to admit it will sting, though.

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Actually it won’t sting. We will be grateful . You overestimate your importance. We get hounded by lots of men. If the losers sort themselves out we are just relieved and grateful.

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…. and cue female privilege, without even knowing is it is such, because of your inability to see what it is like in other people’s shoes (specifically the other, evil sex)

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The rebuttals are not for the true believers, they are for everyone else who is watching. Certain people will never be convinced that their hateful ideology is not only detrimental to themselves and others but also immoral and wrong.

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I’ve never seen an attractive feminist, so shouldn’t be a problem. Pretty girls don’t need it, they have people falling over themselves to help them anyway.

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Re: your last comment: what a load of crap, Roosh. I’m a reader of yours so I know you’ve written multiple posts about how pervasive feminism is, about how basically every US chick with a college degree defaults to feminism. So you’re saying I have to wait for the one in a million chick with a unique resistance to the mainstream programming to walk in?

If every time some lizard mouths a knee-jerk feminist platitude, I bail on the pump and dump, this is what will happen: I pass up sex, some other guy fills in and validates the girl anyway, and no larger practical goal is advanced one bit.

You know what, you’re pedestalizing these feminist chicks. Feminism didn’t succeed because of what women decided to think, it succeeded because men let it. Who gives a shit what a SNL thinks or thinks she knows? the last time I read someone use the phrase “pussy beggar” the way you just did, it was Paul Elam.

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The beta-male begging paradigm certainly seemed to work in the 80’s and it’s partly how we got where we are now.

Perhaps a better way to sending a message AND improving the quality of women overall is to dump a 7 by telling her she’s a feminist AND her numerous physical flaws: The tattoos, fat, flat-chested, etc. “I don’t date man-hating feminists who are fat.”

Even if a white knight beta moves in and bangs her on the rebound, she’ll have those words rebounding in her mind forever: “He’s banging me, but only because he’s a desperate loser who dates fat flat-chested chicks like me. So what good is feminism doing me?”

Telling off a woman, for a good reason, is something alphas do. In some ways, what Roosh suggests improves a man’s disposition more than buying a sports car. Women often improve their self-esteem by going to bars in groups, having guys hit on them, and then smiling and saying they’re too good for the “loser” men and going home. Why can’t men pull that tactic for our own purposes?

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friend you really don’t understand how women think or improve their self esteem. Do,you really think women embrace feminism or reject it that easily? Think we’ll reject feminism because of the words of a misogynist. You over estimate your importance.

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Hahahaha! Yet, you’re here aren’t you?

Most women reject the feminist label. Feminism is the notion of women being eternal victims of the same western white-male Patriarchy they demand rescue and support them (as I’ll address in another comment by you.) Over-estimate my importance? When “independent” women are capable of handling life without being helpless damsels in distress, then you’ll have a point. “Friend”, go fetch me some coffee.

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I would hire an actor to go on a date with a girl I suspected of being a feminist online.

I’m not big on meeting them in person because my identity must remain secret but if the date with the actor went well I might be up to meet in person. I unlike most have too much to lose so sex and dating in person is not an option at this point hiring actors is the way to go.

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A better alternative is to “hate fuck” them. After you shoot your load, change your attitude and tell them how much you hate them for their feminism while you are running out the door zipping your pants up. lolz.

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Yes you are too good for honesty . Being authentic isn’t for you. Deception is the only way to realize your goals.way to be you.

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Roosh, I enjoy (and continue to enjoy, seeing the full part of the glass) your writing, your insights, and your growth into the philosophical. The middle class grist for feminism not being everywhere, an important insight, and I agree there is a world economy singularity event coming that will destroy what is.

I also see, from this and the MM Is a Phony (at RoK), you are preaching philosophy from a rival cathedral perspective. You are developing your 10 Commandments and becoming philosophically what you are fighting.

You are putting the cart in front of the horse. It is easy (and unavoidable) for men with adequate SMV to be selective and not fuck feminists and fatties alike. You do not need to command it, and your pleas of behavioral solidarity must fall on deaf ears because you are not considering the merit of the ‘Selfish Individual’ (works like the Selfish Gene). You are looking for perfect sacrificial coordination, which cannot work, which is why evolution works.

I recommend you harmonize with evolutionary might rather than try to create might from scratch. We are passengers of life, even the leaders. I suggest, and I realize this is biased, you check out my series on “Proving Morality.” It is written from my philosophical perspective, which is why it goes over most guys heads, but you are now firmly in the area of philosophy and the truth is the truth, or as Martel says: A is A. If your calculations miss just a little of what A is, you could be waaaayyy off in your counsel or proscriptions. Logic is perfect only as it is empowered by the design of our universe. Human logic attempts to reverse engineer the causality. It would not work if science and philosophy could not be incrementally corrected, like the thesis in a word processor. Thanks for the opportunity to comment, and to learn about women and life.

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Westcoast (#38), how much you paying these actors. :whoa: I, like MM, could use the work. I’m mid-40s, maybe you need younger. lol Love the emoticon graphics here. :hump: :tard: :attentionwhore:

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I agree with what you say Roosh on most topics, but remember that you had sex with many feminists. So many women embody feminist ideals that you would have to go without sex in many parts of the world if following this ideal. I think the key is to disincentivize feminist behaviour through not supporting them economically and socially. This seems more realistic and pragmatic.

Your ROK site and some manosphere blogs are a great start and I have noticed a male backlash in recent years to feminst ideology.Unfortunately, it may be too late as the rot has set in bad to the point where it may be impossible to prevent society unravelling to third world proportions in the next decade or two.

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I prefer to pump and dump. Then make sure she knows that her belief system (and resulting repulsive personality) is the reason why I won’t consider any sort of commitment. This still might not cause a behavior change given that girls these days are being raised to believe that fucking around is desirable and of no consequence, but at least I got mine.

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@32/Roosh:
Ad Hominem is the last bastion of the intellectually underdeveloped. The internet is already full of it, and I’m disappointed to see you succumbing. You have an opportunity to foster clear debate in the manosphere, and instead you’re writing vitriol. It’s unbecoming, and it’s dangerously close to Gamma whining.

To further elucidate my point, let’s just take the word “feminist.” In one context, it can mean the type of behaviors we all despise – claiming rape to cover up bad sexual decisions, constant entitlement, or even the aforementioned Dworkin-style view of all sex as rape. On the other hand, it can simply mean that someone thinks a McDonalds burger flipper should be paid $8/hr whether they’re male or female. Those are two very different things – I would argue the word “feminism” is as overused and thus as linguistically useless as “conservative.”

So here’s a challenge – give me a simple bullet point list of things “I’m a feminist” could mean that would AND wouldn’t be boycott-worthy. Surely there’s a context in which you would dally a minute and find out more what that HB10 meant by “I’m a feminist.”

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Have you ever gone over someone’s house who has a cat, and it smells like awful cat piss but they don’t realize it because they’ve been so surrounded by the smell for so long they can’t tell?

That’s the equivalent of the commenters above who say feminism isn’t a problem. It’s seeped into our education system, our media, and our gov’t so completely, these men can no longer detect the stench.

The manosophere isn’t about men who are fighting the “straw man” of feminism. It’s about men who have stepped away and can smell the cat piss stench that other men haven’t noticed…yet.

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Most cat lovers are almost always feminists. Also most women who never wear high heels or never wear skirts are feminists.

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Hi Roosh,

Nice post, as usual. I just have to disagree with one point you’re making. Honestly, here (in Québec), EVERY single girl is a ”feminist”. Most don’t know what it means, thet just think they are in favor of women (or against bad treatments of women), or some shit. They have absolutely no clue what it’s all about (well, most of them)and it’s usually not a priority to them, as it may be to Anglo women. So it’s pretty obvious that they’re all going to say they are feminist.

Just like being a leftist, assuming that you are a feminist has no social consequence at all nowadays, this is mostly why these ideologies are so popular. Most people are sheeps, especially women.

Instead, I would say, just date the girl if she’s worthy of it, and her beliefs are going to shift toward yours over time. This is why 98% of single women are democrat, and married women vote for Republicans. (This guy can probably explain it better than, I suggest this video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNUIeE3qKls)

Also, I HIGHLY suggest that you all read this :http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html

It’s one of the best text I ever read on the subject.

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Singularity2050 is a great post!!

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I’m not saying it doesn’t stink. I’m saying let’s define exactly what stinks, why it stinks, and do so in a rational and comprehensive way.

It’s not just women’s behavior that stinks – I see a lot of bitterness towards women as the result of emotional and psychological wounds. Alphas don’t bitch. They conquer.

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Alphas don’t conquer they fuck. In the old days people had relationships. Its in America where you got this Alpha Beta bullshit with the Alphas going around fucking as many women as possible and the Betas getting the leftovers or just whacking off or fucking cougars and other undesirable women.
I decided to not deal with that bullshit and married a foreign woman and have real relationship a real marriage, and I get plenty of wonderful sex with one wonderful woman. Its actually possible.

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Whether you fuck them or not, it doesn’t matter. You’ve already lost the war. I’m a conservative (well, libertarian actually), caveman loving chick who is surrounded by feminist women AND men in the South. They’re indoctrinating their children and yours in any way they possibly can- in music, film, books, television, textbooks, comics, art, politics and even science. You’re soaking in it. We all are.

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Heck with American women just go for foreign women.

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Fuck feminists, but don’t FUCK them.

Fluffy McGee
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Just expatriate and all your feminist problems will be solved.

Enough men do this and their cash flow will take a nose dive.

Skilled, intelligent men should all just expatriate.