What would women think if we told them who they should find attractive? What if morbidly obese men in the USA declared that they are the male ideal, and then used multiple mainstream media outlets to shame women for not liking men with beer bellies, no muscle mass, low monthly incomes, and bad comb overs? What if this group of fat male writers would also announce that if women liked the opposite of what they deemed attractive, they were “shallow” and “stupid” with no understanding of what a “real” man is?

If this really did occur, women would rightly call the men insane and delusional, arguing that they are free to choose the type of men they want to be attracted to, a choice made either consciously from their current tastes or subconsciously due to genetics that tell them to land the most resourceful and fit men in order to pass on good genes to their offspring. The fat male writers would be shamed and ostracized.

This scenario has not actually happened because most men are not idiots—they know that women are attracted to status, money, bad boys, and good looks, but the same can not be said of women. Through a media effort that at times seems conspiratorial, they are trying to brow-beat men into liking unattractive women. Their agenda scolds men for not liking…

  • single moms (women who made the decision to keep spawn of a bad boy who wanted little or nothing to do with the child)
  • overweight women (women who are ugly, gluttonous, gelatinous, and lacking in all manner of self control)
  • strong women (women who are overbearing, masculine, annoying, irritable, and whiny)
  • women who have had dozens of prior sexual partners (women who don’t know the word “loyalty” unless it pertains to buying an Apple product)
  • older women (women who are less fertile and more likely to pass on genetic defects to your child)

Attraction is not a social construct that can be brainwashed into a man. While taste can be influenced socially, such as whether a man prefers a blonde girl versus a brunette, he still wants a beautiful blonde girl, where beauty is defined objectively through symmetry, facial structure, and those three numbers that compose her body shape. Even black men who like thick girls still want a proportional thick girl who has curves instead of being shaped like a milk jug.

If a white man is accidentally born in a Chinese village without a connection to the outside world, will he grow up to wife up an asymmetrical midget hippopotamus who already has spawn from multiple fathers and is well past her peak fertility? Put another way—would any man in any part of the world prefer such a woman if he could do better? Of course not, and this is why 99% of women would prefer to get inseminated by the genes of Brad Pitt than Danny Devito.

Since you’re a man, you have something called a logic module hardwired into your brain. If something you’re doing is not helping you accomplish a specific goal, you make adjustments to improve your chance of success. American women, who lack this module, instead say that the goal they want should become sentient and drawn to her just because. Her existing behaviors and habits should be enough to give her a lifetime of happiness, and if that happiness is not realized, a man or a culture of patriarchy is to blame.

In the past, women who think like the ones we have to endure today would have had to spend time in mental institutions, but there was a breakout in the asylum and now the crazies want big rewards for just existing while shaming and attacking you for the biological and natural desire for beauty and fertility. And with every ten pounds of weight they gain, their writing takes on a renewed sense of urgency, as if they want to trick just one man into loving them before it’s all too late.

The interesting fact of DNA is that it can’t be persuaded. No matter how many wildebeest and spinsters declare themselves to be worthy of the best men, those men will follow their biological desires. Trying to persuade men what to like will all be for naught, but at least we can point and laugh at the broken and ugly women who suggest it.

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  1. Tom January 14, 2015 at 9:18 am

    Dr. Roosh,
    What country in Eastern Europe would you advise guys with a higher BMI to check out?

    1. Buddy January 14, 2015 at 1:07 pm

      The nations of Liftsomeironvakia, Swolevenia, and the Getoffthegoddamnedcouch Republic are all great places to visit.

      Seriously though, Eastern Europe or any other place outside the anglosphere is great, but don’t ever forget your duty to take care of your physical body.

      Being fit is worth much more than just attracting the ladies.

      1. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:24 pm

        Being fit is more important, so quality comment.

      2. Jannik Thorsen January 16, 2015 at 8:10 pm

        It is. Especially when you start to get older.

    2. Texas_Tryhard January 31, 2015 at 6:17 pm

      That is some serious hamster you’ve got there. Let me change the wording of your question to be more accurate:

      “What country in Eastern Europe would you advise fat guys to check out so they can avoid improving themselves?”

  2. Luke January 14, 2015 at 9:32 am

    well the thing is, these womens approach seems to be working. in the US I constantly see ugly and mature women date good looking guys of the same age who could othewise land much better wives in Eastern Europe for instance. so this shit works. many american guys are so desperate they will settle for anything. if a woman is not too ugly they ll take her. so its not so much a question of desire. its more about what can I afford?

    men may desire meghan fox or angelina jolie but if an average girl past her prime is all they can afford they will not only choose her but will be happy with her. attraction standarts change depending on the situation. you yourself once said that in your early twenties you were excited to get a 7, now even a 8 is not good enough. but stnadarts also can drop.

    after WW2 millions of russian men were dead and russian women literally had no standarts. they were even happy to date a guy who had lost both legs in the war and had a scarred face as long as he wasnt abusive. I know it because my family is from there and my russian grandpa had only one arm and one eye. he could barely see, he didnt have a job. his wife provided for him. was she attracted to him? yes. they had 7 kids incl my mom. so there you go. people are not always following their desires and instincts. sometimes the reality of life pushes them to lower their standarts. the us society will not get rid of feminism unless they allow visa travel and unlimited employment fro women from countries with many hot girls. it will create competiton for american women. otherwise US women have the power because they have no competition

    1. YosarriansRight January 14, 2015 at 10:13 am

      7 kids? God Bless your grandpa!

      1. Nelli P January 14, 2015 at 11:36 am

        why are you so suprized? in russia only 2 generations ago large families were the norm and after ww2 the population skyrocketed

      2. YosarriansRight January 15, 2015 at 1:35 pm

        I’m not surprised. Good for the poster’s grandfather for siring 7 children after being so badly wounded in battle.

      3. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 1:43 pm

        all Im saying is that birth rates in russia plummeted after ww2 even though there were barely any guys. so women are capable to feel desire towards men in the worst state as proven by this poster. so yeah there is no logic hardwired in mens or women brains about attraction. you prett ymuch take what you can get

      4. YosarriansRight January 15, 2015 at 1:55 pm

        I hear you. Although I’d rather let my lineage die out than reproduce with a fugly woman or a typical Westernized woman.

    2. NeoBushi January 14, 2015 at 10:52 am

      Without a war to wipe out some of the male population the situation with women won’t get any better. With economic stability and world peace they will only drop further into unattractiveness and entitlement.

      1. Nelli P January 14, 2015 at 11:38 am

        well then why dont you open visa free travel for women from the philippines, thailand, colombia, russia, ukraine, belarus, georgia, armenia, kazahstan? they will increase the amount of good women in the us

      2. TheGrandAdmiral January 14, 2015 at 10:57 pm

        Once they come to the US, they’ll become fucked up to the max. Better for adventurous men to take the journey to get what we want.

      3. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 3:19 am

        as long as some of you remain such egoists, nothing is gonna change. you complain about lack of marriage – worthy women in the US but if there is a solution of flooding the country with hot women who would seriosly skip the scales in the favour of men, you refuse to do it. it only proves that all you wanna do is fuck around with pretty girls. but an average american guy will never go to the ukraine, colombia or the philippines. as a result most of the US guys are stuck with fat american pigs. and you ve only got yourselves to blame.

        Ive grown up in russia, leter moved to ukraine with my family, and everywhere Ive been, ther are lietrally no decent guys. I would be happy if more foreghners came to ukraine to live here, it would help create more healthy, strong families and create some competition for he local men, motivate them to step up their game. I dont want to go to the US and find a rich sugar daddy. Id rather see more relationship minded guys come here. thats why I dont understand your logic

      4. EE Programmer January 15, 2015 at 10:43 am

        – “No decent guys?”

        Look, девушка, that’s the same thing that the Serbian girls are complaining about here in Serbia, too. But they’re completely full of shit.

        Our villages are dying out because all young women came to the towns and cities to find a husband, and many of them have succeeded in their epic quest.

        So now there are a bunch of unmarried 30-something women here in Belgrade who have no children – almost one out of every two women over 30 in Belgrade does not have a child – and there are many decent, single, hard-working, unmarried men in villages all over Serbia who have been forced to resort to using match-making agencies to bring girls from Albania and Ukraine to marry and have children with.

        Those men know that there are no jobs waiting for them in the cities, so they stay in their villages to work the land, but they need wives so find ways to get them.

        That is a feature of us men. We see a fucked-up situation, and we suck it up and we find a way to overcome it. It’s not always ideal, but it works.

        You women – on the other hand – are much more inclined toward creating problems than solving them.

        Too many women today act as if this is some fucked-up version of the Middle Ages where every woman is a princess and every woman deserves a great-looking, wealthy (white) knight who is going to go through fire and slay a dragon in order to become worthy of her.

        Well, guess what? Some of us just don’t give a fuck anymore. Too bad we’re not all knights, and you are most certainly not all princesses.

        The result is that the large number of unmarried 20-something and 30-something women in the cities here in Serbia are basically livin’ la vida loca (Sex & the City style), going out too much, partying too much, and hooking up with anyone who they think might be able to provide them a future.

        In order to make themselves out to be more than they really are, girls smoke Sobranie (very expensive cigarettes) when they go out, but then they buy blunts and cheap smuggled rolled tobacco by the kilo on the black market, and then they smoke this tobacco at home where nobody who matters can see them.

        This is and excellent example of the overarching pathetic, fake Balkan mentality that disgusts me thoroughly.

        No wonder why Belgrade has a reputation as a huge nightlife spot in this part of Europe. Foreigners come here for weekend fun because beer is cheap, accommodations are fairly cheap, and there are many beautiful young women who spend all their money on makeup, hairstylists, manicures, pedicures, dresses, skirts, and heels; and they go out every night and want nothing more than to snag a rich Western European or American guy.

        It’s just too bad that there aren’t enough George Clooneys and Brad Pitts for all of them.

        My point is – we (men) don’t need you (women) to tell us how to step up our game.

        What we need you to do is to make us give a fuck about you, because many of us really don’t give a fuck about you these days.

        Clearly, you girls still give a fuck about your acute problem of not currently having a man committed to you.

        So make us give a fuck about you, and then some of us might commit to you. But you will not achieve that by spreading your legs. You will achieve that by being pleasant to be around. In this part of Europe where so many girls are 8s or 9s, looks are not as big of a deal as a woman’s basic human decency, which is sorely lacking.

        However, you have long since lost your innate ability to do that, and the results are obvious all over the world – especially in predominantly white countries.

        Call me beta if you want, but about 85 to 90% of all straight men on this planet are relationship-minded / marriage-minded, but the women that we meet every day are simply not worth it any more.

        I have had my fair share of girls from all over Serbia and some parts of former Yugoslavia who basically told me that they want to marry me on the 4th or 5th date. It really became ridiculous – like a bad movie.

        We barely even went to bed (I don’t like sex on the first date because then it becomes clear that there won’t be too many more dates), and they’re already talking about marriage. This is ridiculous. We don’t even know each other, but they want commitment immediately. I am sorry, but my – or any self-respecting man’s – commitment has to be earned over time – coercion and manipulation just doesn’t work.

        That is why I got thoroughly sick of girls and am now seeing a 46-year-old divorced woman. I am very happy with her, and I might consider looking at girls again in a year or two after I establish my “fuck you” fund that I just read about on ROK. 🙂

      5. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 12:47 pm

        serbia and russia are not the same!!!! come to ANY russian village (russian, not other nationality) in siberia, middle russia, south russia and you will see tons of drunks who start drinking at 14 and become abusive assholes at 30. you have no idea how much shit there is! dont compare a civilized country with russia. russian villages die out because men there die of drinking. women are forced to move to the cities to surivive if you want to know how hard it is for russian women, come to volgograd. literally 10 girls to every guy. women are gorgeous, some are bitches but the majority are just trying to find a decent guy. come and see for yourself. I personally would be thrilled to find a decent husband and live in the village. btw thank you for the info on serbia. I might go there one day=)

      6. YosarriansRight January 15, 2015 at 2:10 pm

        I might have to change my European trip and go to Volgograd.

      7. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 2:22 pm

        its best in spring (april – may, beginning of june). later it gets super hot and dry and most people leave the city for resorts. come in spring and be prepared that the city is not very “walkable”, there is only the shore where people hang out and a couple of clubs. plus russia is in a state of war right now so think twice

      8. YosarriansRight January 15, 2015 at 2:23 pm

        Thank you for the info. Can you show me around?

      9. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 2:27 pm

        Im not coming there this summer but you can write to some girls on vk.com maybe they ll show you around

      10. YosarriansRight January 15, 2015 at 2:30 pm

        You’re a tease.

      11. TyKo Steamboat January 15, 2015 at 10:30 pm

        This was “Stalingrad” during WWII….
        & while there are beautiful women there, I assure you that the #’s are not 10 – 1

      12. Nelli P January 16, 2015 at 4:16 am

        weell…. have you ever been there? in summer/spring? the streets are literally full of hot women with 1-2 creepy drunk guys amongst them.

      13. YosarriansRight January 16, 2015 at 8:49 am

        I know it’s former name was Stalingrad. I really do have to go to Russia/FSU.

      14. ChimpGod January 16, 2015 at 11:47 am

        I’m going to concur with Tyko.. Nowhere is there 10-1 as far as pure #’s, percentages go, on consistent and regular basis. You may see some cafe’s or dance clubs (before the guys show up) with some crazy numbers, but lets not cook the books.

      15. EE Programmer January 15, 2015 at 5:04 pm

        Hahahahaha! That was very funny indeed! Civilized country? Serbia? Hahahahaha! :))))

        Девушка, you just made me laugh very hard, and I appreciate that!

        You know what, though? I might just go to Volgograd for like a week or two, probably next year.

        It’s kind of messed-up because the flights are from Belgrade to Moscow and then to Volgograd – and I don’t plan on flying over Ukraine any time soon.

        I think I’ll just take the train through Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, Belarus, and Russia. It’ll probably take me three days to get there by train, but who cares? I’ll just bring my laptop, a couple of good books and an MP3 player. 🙂

      16. TyKo Steamboat January 15, 2015 at 10:32 pm

        Depends on which type of train. The absolute worst effen thing about traveling in Ukraine is the old Soviet trains. Brutal

      17. bucky January 16, 2015 at 12:03 am

        if you have a ukrainian girlfriend, i highly recommend buying all four places in a kupee and taking an overnight train ride with her. best. train. ride. ever.

      18. Nelli P January 16, 2015 at 4:22 am

        we have smth called “фирменный поезд” from volgograd to moscow, only a night and a few hours drive. if you take coupe (do not take platskart) you will be reasonably comfortable. also volgograd is not a tourist mecca. women are there but except fro the clubs and the volga shore there are few places to approach them so I would recommend hit mamba.ru or vk.com first. similiar cities with huge female/male ratio are samara and saratov. also there is st petersburg which is a beautiful city itself. have a nice trip and be nice to our girls! russian women never get no good treatement from local men who treat us like crap, american gamers are also there just to slay some pussy, dont be a dick like them) they are slavic girls after all

        in ukraine I would also recommend odessa and kiev (crimea used to be great for finding women too but now its occupied so dont go there)

      19. Power9799 February 20, 2015 at 3:59 am

        Dude, I lived in Ufa and peters , I have to say there are hot girls, but not as many as 8-9a as people say. Yeah some places like clubs there are a lot!
        But girls are not that easy with connection or money.

      20. Dogbert II January 17, 2015 at 12:32 pm

        Nelli P,

        there are no decent men to be found because, after having been treated worse than dogshit for being nice, well-mannered and decent by one too many deserving, entitled woman, the decent men decided either to put up with women just enough to get pussy, or to skip women altogether.

      21. ChimpGod January 16, 2015 at 1:19 pm

        Nelli P makes a good point.. The fact is, the men over in EE are fucking lops. A lot of them are drunks, or losers, or a combination of both. I can’t tell you how many times one of them gets on the Marshutka (Bus), and smell like Alcohol and B.O. Yet the girls on the bus smell like perfume, and clean. And yes, you are right, most American men talk the talk, but won’t actually go over there. I, on the other hand, have already booked my ticket and will be headed over shortly. I’m trying to enlighten my fellow co-workers and friends, about the truths of EE. I’m a modern day Apostle, just trying to spread the truth, and the light.

      22. TheGrandAdmiral January 16, 2015 at 10:27 pm

        Just enjoy it for yourself. Less competition makes it easier for you.

      23. ChimpGod January 17, 2015 at 1:00 pm

        You think a few more Westerners in Ukraine is going to have some dramatic impact on my ability to pull women in Ukraine or EE?

      24. TheGrandAdmiral January 17, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        Well, I am a Black man. I don’t have the white god factor overseas, so minimizing competition would be in my personal interests. Long-term, it might be in yours too.

      25. ChimpGod January 17, 2015 at 8:51 pm

        Stop taking the victim approach and assume that because someone is white that pussy falls in their laps.. that’s bullshit.. start going to countries where your skin color benefits you.. if I didn’t study Russian I wouldn’t be going to Ukraine. Only reason I go there..

      26. TheGrandAdmiral January 17, 2015 at 10:33 pm

        True, to a degree. Thing is, I only like Northeast Asians. I’m not into Euro chicks, Latinas, Filipinas, Sistas, Snowbunnies, warhogs, etc. and the other stuff that Black guys have an easier time with.

      27. ChimpGod January 17, 2015 at 11:13 pm

        Well shit man.. I only like pussy.. but I see your point, if you like a certain ethnicity, well, that’s what you like. You have an uphill battle man.. you talking like Korean, Chinese, Japanese ?

      28. TheGrandAdmiral January 18, 2015 at 12:23 am

        Yeah. Taiwanese, Chinese, and Japanese.

      29. willymonfretfromsluthate January 19, 2015 at 2:15 pm

        this!same!colombianas being an exception.

      30. TyKo Steamboat January 15, 2015 at 12:07 am

        Would be nice. I submitted a thick stack of paper work & 200$ down the drain for a Ukrainian girl to get a tourist visa (B-2) to come to the US. Took a month to organize & was a pain in my ass. The officer at the consulate asked her a grand total of 3 questions & didn’t even look at all the paper work….
        You can’t come to the USA unless you duck the fence down south or are a Muslim I guess. You also have to be under the age of 21 or over the age of 60…Own property & have traveled before.
        It sucks. Marriage is the only real option & that’s simply not a real option.

      31. ChimpGod January 16, 2015 at 11:50 am

        I did the same man.. It’s fucking bullshit. Every mother fucker can climb or swim over here from shitholes like Mexico, but you go about it the legal and proper way, and they spit in your face.

      32. TyKo Steamboat January 16, 2015 at 4:37 pm

        Sure. I saw you’re in L’viv again…nice. I’m f*ck*n jealous. Send me some data…
        I got a 19 year old chick from Ladyzhin living with me at the moment. I’ll send a pic or 2 to your inbox on VK

      33. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 3:56 pm

        This seems to be unfortunately on the cards, except our WW3 is perpetual war with many minor conflicts, except most haven’t noticed… until it’s their turn, which is soon.

    3. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 3:54 pm

      In med school, all the americans and canadians fucked this girl who was a 2/10, who had major OCD and chain smoked, and was obese. These med student handsome men 6′-6′ 4″ tall, 8/10 men ALL fucked her because she was easy, despite other hotter women being available.


      Yes, feminism is super bad, but it takes two to tango and men are responsible for the shit-fest we have today in many ways too. Both sexes are basically fucked in the head, with only a handful of sane people left, if even that…

    4. mclovin89 January 15, 2015 at 3:36 am

      ehat i always wondered was what if guys just stopped approaching for a while?
      would women get desperate step up their game and maybe approach or would they do nothing and embrace it?

      1. dan January 22, 2015 at 8:48 pm

        Do you suggest men going on strike?

      2. mclovin89 January 23, 2015 at 2:38 am

        perhaps. But a strike would be some vocal thing. Im saying just drop out for a little while and improve on ourselves for a bit…leaving wondering and abandoned in a sense.

      3. Johnny Doe January 24, 2015 at 6:26 am

        No thanks. I’ve been approached by enough fatties over the years that I’d rather not let that scenario play out.

        Only desperate women approach.

      4. mclovin89 January 25, 2015 at 12:38 am

        all women are when they dont get attention and when the bio clock is ticking

    5. John January 15, 2015 at 7:11 pm

      Obviously, but the quality of life sucks balls in most eastern european cities. If you don’t have a good social group of people who are native english speakers it just gets boring. Everyone I know gets bored after a few months. It’s boring to date someone whose english isn’t great, who doesn’t have much in common culturally, and has no mutual friends.

      1. bucky January 16, 2015 at 12:10 am

        i spent six months voluntarily unemployeed in mid-sized town (population ~250,000) in ukraine in 2005. it was basically the greatest time of my life. i slept in, improved my russian, taught myself to program, worked out a lot, hung out with cool people, and had copius amounts of sex with my hardbodied 21-year-old ukrainian girlfriend. if you’re getting bored in a place like ukraine, you’re doing it wrong (i.e. not learning the language, not setting goals for yourself, etc.)

      2. ChimpGod January 16, 2015 at 11:52 am

        Bucky, sounds like you had a great time.. I agree with you man, Ukraine is amazing. I constantly try to convince friends of how great it is, but they are too naive and betafilled to even think outside the box.

      3. Jack January 19, 2015 at 4:19 am

        Um, isn’t the Ukraine at war right now? That seems like the last country I’d want to go and hang out in.

      4. ChimpGod January 21, 2015 at 11:10 pm

        I’m not even going to answer fully.. But you are retarded..

      5. Jack January 24, 2015 at 8:35 pm

        Yeah, okay. Insightful comment. Are you suggesting that there is not a civil war going on in the Ukraine? That it’s all just made up? Or do you think that wars never spread and that all of the fighting will stay in one corner of the country? Or are you SO manly that you’re going to parachute in, kill a bunch of dudes with your bare hands, bang all the ladies and then ride away on a stolen tank? If you can do all of that, you are a better man than I, and I salute you.

      6. ChimpGod January 24, 2015 at 11:06 pm

        You make it sound like there is widespread war, raging through all of Ukraine.. You are basically talking shit, and don’t have a fucking clue, just like most ignorant Westerners. I’ll parachute in to your house, bang your girl, and ride away on her. How is that for an insightful comment?

      7. Jack January 29, 2015 at 11:18 pm

        Allow me to repeat myself: “Do you think that wars never spread and that all of the fighting will stay in one corner of the country?” Putin cut off the gas, America’s already got mercenaries on the ground-there very well could be widespread war. By all means go there, along with every one of your ilk.

      8. SaltCityPunch January 22, 2015 at 10:10 am

        “Audacity, audacity, always audacity!” – Napolean Bonaparte. Jack, you won’t be banging Ukrainian beauties because you don’t have the audacity to do something so bold. That’s okay though, I hear that there are lots of single ladies in Washington DC, or Chicago.

      9. Jack January 24, 2015 at 8:31 pm

        It would be super-ballsy to go to a country at war for some tail. Most people just wait until the fighting’s over and there are a bunch of lonely widows to console.

      10. ChimpGod January 24, 2015 at 11:10 pm

        Even with the war, I guarantee you still have a higher chance of being murdered in Chicago, Los Angeles, etc. That’s fine.. This is grown up shit.. stick to cock fest clubs in Toronto.

      11. john January 18, 2015 at 3:56 am

        My point was just that eastern europe is in many ways not as magical of a long term solution as it seems on the surface. I can do it for 6 months and maybe even a year and living abroad is a good/essential experience, but it wears on you overtime. Learning Russian from scratch in even a year is close to impossible if you’re working a full time job, at least for most people.

        Everyone values different things. I’d much rather have a variety of healthy food options, a good music/comedy scene, cig smoke free air and date a 7.5-8 that understands my jokes than a marginally hotter euro chick with no prospects that can’t even visit my home country.

        Some people don’t mind living on a farm but I’d much rather be in the heart of the action than bumfuck where my game is going to go to shit because I don’t have to work as hard to pull a hot girl. My point is just that both have massive pros and cons and a short term stay can be incredibly deceiving with respect to long term contentment.

      12. ChimpGod January 24, 2015 at 11:18 pm

        What exactly wears on you? Compared to what? Long term solution as compared to becoming a beta in America by marrying some fat bitch, and having her slide out a few kids, then give her half your retirement?
        1. You can learn Russian in 1 year if you live there, and study every day.. Guaranteed, unless you are a complete retard.
        2. The food isn’t healthy? Americans are fat as fuck.. They don’t have a lot of options, besides healthy food. Bands wise, of course you aren’t going to have it like the USA.
        3. They don’t smoke indoors. I really didn’t smell smoke like I used to.
        4. If you aren’t going to make an effort to learn the language, than yes.. Stay in Toronto and date a Westerner. You already sound like you are making beta moves, so just bring her over and marry her.. Visa problem solved.
        5. Who says you don’t have to work as hard? I’m not talking about going and living on farm dude. Nothing is perfect, and both countries have problems, and shitty things. true.

  3. Spider58x January 14, 2015 at 10:00 am

    Yea, you don’t ever see men demanding that women should find fat, ugly, broke men attractive. Because that is fucking ridiculous. So why are women doing the same thing?

    1. me January 14, 2015 at 10:16 am


    2. Nelli P January 14, 2015 at 11:39 am

      just one word naafa. one of the most hypocrticic organisations

    3. Clark Kent January 14, 2015 at 11:53 am

      On the other hand guys do say that women should find normal guys who are not psychopaths attractive. I’d say that men do attempt to shame women’s choices in men.

      I think what is annoying though is that what men say they want is more or less what they actually want. If I say that I prefer good looking appreciative feminine girls who take care of their bodies and have good conversational skills, that statement is basically true 100% of the time.

      1. Nelli P January 14, 2015 at 12:55 pm

        I personally believe that women should look more for a stable/decent guy rather than a clone of brad pitt or smth. I dont mind men telling me this because its true. I can also say to a guy that he should indeed be looking for a cute and decent girl but he should not try to choose the pretiest of them all. if he goes after the prom queen and ditches a good quality woman (who may have been just as beautiful but had less sassy attitude and used less makeup/fancy clothing) and then the prom queen divorces him and moves in with a new boyfriend, well, he only has himself to blame.

        I hate it when guys skip truly sweet and pretty girls and try to choose the hottest girl ever and than complain it didnt work out fo rthem. beauty in women is important, but men should be looking for the natural beauty (as well as a good heart) rather then the superficial/self entitled beauty of top models who are spoiled with male attention. especially when they themselves look less than average

      2. Clark Kent January 14, 2015 at 1:12 pm

        I don’t know where you’re from but in the city where I am a lot of guys are actually willing to go for women less attractive than they themselves, and it still doesn’t work out most of the time.

      3. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:07 pm

        Tbh, in the UK I’ve seen shit ass looking men with nothing to offer, with cute women. The girls are so insecure they date guys who will not find anything better. Hence why this island has the most malleable population of all Anglo nations who are overcrowded to the point of their self-destruction – the men are weak in the head and the social engineering has made the only purpose in their life is to get laid.

      4. TyKo Steamboat January 15, 2015 at 12:17 am

        UK is the only place on Earth that makes me want American women. Hahahaha

      5. ChimpGod January 24, 2015 at 11:20 pm

        Something about that accent though.. I imagine the novelty would wear off.. A lot of them are ugly as fuck though, and generally have a fucked up grill.. lot of fatties.

      6. TyKo Steamboat January 25, 2015 at 1:28 am

        Any time I hear a woman with a filthy British accent I wana puke my guts out. another thing too, notice how Brits never Stop talking…

      7. euneaux January 14, 2015 at 1:35 pm

        We sweet boys don’t skip the sweet girls. Sweet girls are sadly all too scarce. Personally I’ve never had a taste for the smoking hot vamp types.

        Sometimes this sweet boy feels like he’s in a zoo with no others of his own species to keep him company.

        We may all have our “ideal” images of what we find attractive, but we certainly like a range of styles. What we resent is having others tell us what to like. It’s like that know-it-all hipster telling us what kind of food or music we like is all wrong. There is no arguing about taste.

        If you read around these parts you might find that the fellas here are pretty forgiving. Outside of a few strict rules, guys are pretty easy to please.

        1. Don’t get too fat.

        You don’t have to be built like a model, but women built like tattooed burritos are not hot.

        I can’t help thinking that trapped inside all desperate obese cows of America’s great soft middle that there’s a number of gorgeous Taylor Swifts waiting to be released. Feminism claims to preach female empowerment… Bullshit. Those feminists want you to stay helpless passive victims and clients. We Kings will set you free. Girl you have the power! You can do it! Let that babe hiding inside you out! We’ll all be happier for it!

        2. Don’t get tattoos

        You women might get turned on by dangerous men who show their rebellion by defacing their skin, but most men don’t. Women be projecting when they cover themselves with that.

        3. Don’t be unpleasant bitches

        Women may like guys with attitude who are “challenging.” Women be projecting when they put on that swagger, sarcasm and profanity. If we strive to be civilized gentlemen, why don’t we deserve the company of civilized ladies?

        4. Be optimistic about life and its pleasures

        How did wanting women to smile and be happy become one of the greatest signs of oppression that American women suffer? Men prefer women who are happy and who smile. Hollaback bitches resent this.

        Women prefer men who are distant, aloof, stoic, etc … aka not smiling. Why do they insist on wearing the bitch face? Women be projecting when they paste that scowl if they think it’ll turn on men.

        5. Make the most of what you got

        Everyone’s blessed differently, but many women show their ingratitude for whatever deficits they may have by trying to reject whatever naturally programmed sense of human aesthetics and turn it on its head. Instead of striving to make the most of their gifts, these sad women make a mockery of the natural sense of beauty by defacing and destroying whatever gifts they have. They get fat, they cut off their hair, they wear unflattering clothes to conceal whatever body they have, they cover their skin with hideous ink…. Try to convince yourselves that you are above the natural order of evolution and beauty standards, but you will fail to deceive anybody else much less yourself.

        Take everybody’s favorite punching bag in these parts, Lena Dunham. I will concur that she is terrible. But what makes it even worse is that everything bad about her appearance and style is her own fault. Naturally she has great smooth fair skin and clear intelligent eyes. But in addition to the layer of self-inflicted blubber she had to cover herself in those awful tattoos and silly hipster fashions. It’s obvious she’s trying to make a mockery of conventional natural beauty. Because she can’t be the #1 HOT BABE she works to destroy all the natural gifts she did get. Sure she probably would never be a great beauty to launch a thousand ships, but with little effort she could be a real contender. Facially she even somewhat resembles Anne Hathaway.

      8. Nelli P January 14, 2015 at 1:50 pm

        poor American boys. Im from ukraine but I currently live in Germany. German girls look nice in general but some can be quite bitchy, ukrainian women are beautiful for the most part but some are 10 and 9 and in Kiev men in their 40s chase these girls but many of them just want the money. the average (and below average) guys in Ukraine ignore girls who dont look like they ve walked from the cover of a fashion magazine. a hot girl to them is a symbol of success, smth to show off to their friends. what I mean by that is a Misha Barton/ reese witherspoon lookalike 10-15 yrs younger, a family minded woman is simply not good enough. no a woman has to look like IDK Giselle bundchen or meghan fox in order to land a date. but such women even in ukraine are in high demand so they look for a rich guy.

        and some of our men make like 300 USD a year look like kevin spacey (not hot definetely) and expect the world to revolve around them. and so just sweet, pretty girls are not good enough. Ive read roosh`s forum and its all filled with guys who chase girl after girl just in order to collect flags, and when they come to a place like ukraine they act like total jackasses. I mean once you re there get yourself a decent girl who geniunly cares and is not too much out of your league. otherwise you ll end up heart broken and miserable.

      9. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:05 pm

        Interesting point. Women have loved me when I’ve acted like a sociopath/psychopath. The only problem is I SHOULD SHAME THEM FOR IT as it doesn’t lead to a stable society that is able to perpetuate itself. They’re selfish cunts and I will call them out on it or turn my back on them.

      10. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 6:05 am

        if you call all women selfish cunts well then dont be suprized if all you meet is selfish cunts….

      11. bavieca January 15, 2015 at 10:56 pm

        – if you call all women selfish cunts well then dont be suprized if all you meet is selfish cunts….-

        You really believe he possess that much power so that he can transform reality simply by calling upon it?

        Can he also call the Sun to rise from the North and set in the East? Perhaps he can also call himself the King of France and voila! The French people goes “Vive L’Empereur Seth Datta”…..LOL

      12. Nelli P January 16, 2015 at 4:24 am

        what you search is what you find. if I would focus in the negative only I would onyl see rapists burglars and murderes everywhere I went. its how men who think most women are sluts only tend to meet sluts

      13. bavieca January 16, 2015 at 4:50 am

        – what you search is what you find. –

        Err ………. but but I’ve spent the last 3 centuries searching far n’ wide deep n’ high for the Holy Grail and still……ZERO success! Surprise surprise surprise! *SIGH* ….. I sure already knew back then during the days of the Hussars that I need to SEARCH the Holy Grail in order to find it but mayhaps you have any suggestion as to exactly WHERE should I shall search, oh wise one?

        – if I would focus in the negative only I
        would onyl see rapists burglars and murderes everywhere I went. –

        Not everywhere oh wise one, if ye went to the Moon then ye may focus in rapists and murderers until thy eyes popped out of thy eye-sockets but still ye shall see none there, oh wise one. Gnome Saint?

      14. ChimpGod January 24, 2015 at 11:21 pm

        Positive thinking only gets you so far man.

    4. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:01 pm

      I wish the women would have more stable relationships instead of promoting thugspawn and/or a weakened society with their whiteknight partner (faggotrized males that won’t stick up for anything).

      If you look at history,social collapse follows these trends.

  4. Leopard January 14, 2015 at 10:00 am

    That’s a great article Roosh.

    That’s also why game doesn’t exist. Girls (DNA) are attracted to you since first second or they will never be attracted.

    Then, of course, some qualities are necessary to handle relationships. (Call it “game” if you want.) But only for relationships. A man with no “game” can still get laid (if he has killer instinct) but he will be bad at handling relationships.

    1. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:22 pm

      Game will exist as a social construct based on societal rules and who benefits from certain behaviours. Game changes as society changes.

      Interestingly, race is NOT a social construct.

    2. TyKo Steamboat January 15, 2015 at 12:23 am

      You must have no real game I take it.
      Game (confidence) is more powerful than an attractive man.
      An attractive man that is afraid to approach a girl is in a world of trouble.

      1. Johnny Doe January 24, 2015 at 6:31 am

        An ugly man that approaches isn’t in any better a situation…unless he stands out in other ways.

      2. RebelAlliance January 30, 2015 at 2:31 pm

        That other way is confidence. An ugly man with a confident approach is better than an attractive man with shit confidence. I have seen it happen too many times.

    3. frank rook January 15, 2015 at 1:22 am

      Disagree with you about game not existing. I’m assuming you’re using a very narrow definition, if any at all.
      Setting yourself up for the initial approach IS part of the game mindset. Failing to be aware of how to navigate the intricacies of female-male attraction & bombing because of such ill preparedness is demonstrating poor game.
      I believe this also stretches to an advanced stage along the relationship life cycle, assuming the initial meet & deal wasn’t a one time thing.
      (qualifier: I’m no expert. Just personal experience & observations from my acquaintance circles & conclusions from reading the second hand stuff here on ROK & the like)

  5. invisiblehand85 January 14, 2015 at 10:17 am

    Cultural collapse, declining fertility rates, more reliance on growing government instead of families and communities. Conspiracy.

    1. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:19 pm

      Conspiracy = woe is me, they’re onto us, quick – get some propaganda or false flag on to district them whilst we grade A criminals finish our evil task.

      Let’s shame them, up vote our comments and control all media presented so we can brainwash them over time into accepting our lies and bullshit that we are the ‘Special’ people and not psychopaths hell bent on destroying the human race and perhaps even our own because we can’t help it.

  6. euneaux January 14, 2015 at 10:46 am

    Our modern culture “celebrates” every kind of sexuality except that of straight men. My indoctrination is so complete that I can hardly admit to myself much less publicly express what I find attractive. In the US I’m constantly being told how African-Americans or South Asians are the most beautiful women in the world. Or that confident assertive career broads are the pinnacle of female specimens.

    Why have I been made to feel guilt as some kind of a Nazi because I find fair, blue-eyed young women most attractive? Nobody is making women feel bad for preferring “tall, dark and handsome.” (Lucky brother Roosh…) Whenever the mass media tries to shove some celebrated icon of feminine awesome down my throat, thousands of years of evolutionary wisdom locked in my brain and loins scream, “Really? No thanks. The emperor may be naked, but I have no interest in seeing these.” I’m not sure why Hollywood and the rest of the media fixates on some of these “female idols” but I suspect it’s to idealize non-threatening women so the ordinary mediocre women don’t feel inadequate that make up the audience targeted by advertisers. Amy Poehler? Tina Fey? Beyonce Knowles? Miley Cyrus? Katy Perry? Seriously??? (Add your own examples of “celebrated women” we’re supposed to find hot .)

    For example I recall years ago seeing a movie poster for “The Girl with a Pearl Earring.” A split-second was all it took and I knew immediately that Miss Scarlet Johansson was pretty special. I didn’t need the pre-selection or pre-approval of a thousand media mavens to tell me. I knew very well in my own loins that Miss Johansson passed a certain test that Roosh and everyone else around here should be familiar with.

    In nature it’s these tests what really matter. The girls subject the guys to Shit-Tests and the guys subject the girls to their Boner Tests. Guys may feel shame when he can’t perform, but maybe it’s really the girls fault. If she were only younger, cuter, hotter, blonder, tighter, sweeter…

    1. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      You’re white, so the ‘other white man’ has it in for you and genocides you by proxy via mass immigration, whilst one day he hopes to enslave further the immigrant ‘cattle’.

  7. Zelcorpion January 14, 2015 at 11:12 am

    Ay – our mating patterns are mostly hard-wired – a dog will like a certain set of female dog for reproduction, he cannot be taught to be attracted to fish. But since gender is a social construct, men can be rewired – of course only when men are concerned since it’s a feminine primary power – women are still free to pursue the most Alpha good-looking man they can find.

    1. Nelli P January 14, 2015 at 1:54 pm

      just get out of US dude. let some decent women out there treat you like you deserve.

      1. Zelcorpion January 14, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        Thanks for your concern, I live in Eastern Europe now. But decent nude pics might improve my mood even more.

    2. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      You forgot to put ‘the man’ in the background, who has the ‘independent woman’ on a leash.

  8. Andrea January 14, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    Self-awareness and change only occur from within. Men and women alike, don’t respond well to negative criticism, abuse and blame. When we call overweight, assertive women “fat bitches” they only get defensive and try to fight back with their reactive definition of beauty. We all have fears, vulnerabilities and insecurities, including feminists and people who exude confidence like all of you alphas. Women in particular are really self-conscious. So all of you sweet, kings are only perpetuating this destruction of aesthetics epidemic by being mean in your rhetoric. I’ve been reading Roosh’s blog for a while and several of your comments and I see that you are devastated by your cynicism which claims that your “dream girls” are rapidly becoming extinct. Why don’t you realize that what you want and what we want is basically the same; to be “truly seeing” and appreciated by another human being. By calling feminists fat, ugly, single, crazy, bitches, you only exacerbate the problem. Maybe we shouldn’t fight fire with fire.

    1. Anonymous age 72 January 14, 2015 at 3:10 pm

      So, what do we call fat; ugly; crazy bitches?

      1. Andrea January 14, 2015 at 4:56 pm

        Funny. Good rhetorical question.

  9. Sombro January 14, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    Attraction is not negotiable.

    1. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 4:23 pm

      But cash can still get grade A whores to date you awhile before they get ‘the man’ to dispossess you of it and your future labor.

  10. Sean January 14, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    I can’t wait to see the storm when I link this on FB. Gonna be awesome, well done.

  11. Days of Broken Arrows January 14, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    “…women who don’t know the word “loyalty” unless it pertains to buying an Apple product.” LOL! One of the best sentences I’ve read on here.

  12. seth datta January 14, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    The media is nowadays promoting the gay lifestyle, and with 1.05 men to 1.00 women, many men do head down that path.

  13. Frosty January 14, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    As Roosh stated, as men we are blessed (maybe not so much in this day and age) with logic modules, which enables us to see past the many hours of toiling away at something, in order to reach the feeling of fulfillment once we dominate our original goal. We take pride in hard work.

    Women have no such trait. They could care less about character-building work. They care only about the rewards that come from such self-sacrifice, such as financial rewards or merit. Being the “socially savvy” creatures that they are (in addition to owning a highly valuable pussy), yet at the same time naturally insecure, they value the merit (social validation is a bandaid to insecurity) more than the money (they always have a pussy to cash-out if money gets tight).

    This explains why Kim Kardashian is every girls IDOL. Kim Kardashian:
    1) Is likely the most infamous woman in the western hemisphere
    2) Suffered through approximately 0 hours of toil to achieve her status, instead exploiting her personal scenario (father being a lawyer in OJ Simpson trial) in addition to releasing a sex tape with a famous man (RayJay or something like that)
    3) Has zero modesty (See: her flamboyant, extravagant lifestyle)
    4) Treats everyone else like shit if she doesn’t need them
    5) Treats men far greater than her like shit

    What girl wouldn’t want to be Kim Kardashian?

    1. Andrea January 14, 2015 at 5:03 pm

      Some of us are saddened by Kim’s superficial, vane and self destructive character. Some of us do recognize the value of work and its ability to give meaning and dignity to our lives. I’m sorry we don’t encounter such women often.

      1. Frosty January 14, 2015 at 5:26 pm

        Good to hear from one. Unfortunately you girls are a tiny minority relative to those who buy into the shenanigans.

      2. Andrea January 14, 2015 at 5:36 pm

        Thank you. But to go back to Roosh’s original point and to agree with Nelli P, unfortunately, a lot of men are attracted to women with Kim’s physical and ideological characteristics.

      3. Frosty January 14, 2015 at 5:56 pm

        Your point is irrelevant, that is not the topic I was discussing. My comment considered female behavior, not male behavior.

      4. Andrea January 14, 2015 at 6:40 pm

        Fair enough. But do you agree with what I said? Do you think it’s unfortunate that a lot of alpha males are attracted to hypersexual women driven by money?

      5. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 3:33 am

        the thing is, men get pissed off when some US women try to push different beauty idelas on them. no, nobody likes a fat chick. but when we tell men the truth – that they must be forts and foremost attracted to a woman of good character instead of looking for a girl that has walked off the cover of a magazine (since its most likely a money hungry bitch) they get pissed

      6. TIM MCCLELLAN January 16, 2015 at 12:41 am

        That is not the question to ask. The question to ask is why are so many of the beautiful women that alpha males are attracted to so driven by money and so void of any real personality? As a matter of fact, a better question is why are so many women of any semblance of SMV?

        Go check out this woman’s videos for her view of what’s going on in the manosphere and the way women are now being rightfully perceived by men and ask her your questions:


      7. Nelli P January 16, 2015 at 4:30 am

        oh srsly? and why are so many super hot guys like brad pittor leo dicaprio so selfish and date multiple women? and why are millionaires all polygamists? imagine I were an average looking 30 y.o. librarian and I would demand hottest guys on the planet love me be faithful and giev me all their money. oh why they dont do it? how dare they? do I really have to settle for an average good looking family minded guy with a steady income? srsly? I want an alpha male right now ! and he must be filthy rich and do what I say. a bit unrealistic right?

        just like your demads. if you position yourself as an “alpha” male who only pursues model quality owmen and you do not wish to spend a dollar on a girl because you are so alpha, and you expect to pump and dump her, dont be suprized to get selfish money oriented whores. good women want good men. period.

      8. Andrea January 16, 2015 at 9:26 am

        Well, beautiful women are driven by money for the same reasons most humans are…it gives access to resources, power and merit. But why have circular arguments, where women blame alphas and call them asshole and men blame hotties and call them bitches. Let’s ask how we can have better more meaningful interactions where both men and women get their needs met. What if our inability to have healthy relationships is a contemporary evolutionary adaptation to achieve population control?

      9. Nelli P January 16, 2015 at 9:47 am

        I agree iwth you thats what I tried to prove to the guy. rooshs blog teaches men how to be alpha and keep women in control and spend no money on them etc. but good women run away from such guys. I personally believe it would be better if men were taught as young boys to value women of character and treat them with dignity. but also not allow themselves to be fooled with a fake beauty that consists of make up and fancy clothes and high heels. this grading women in 7s,9s and 10s is ridicoulous. many guys from rooshs forum will pass on a really good and cute girl because she is an “8” and will go after a supposed ten just to impress fellow gamers…. and they call themselves logical?

      10. EdwardJi January 26, 2015 at 6:40 pm

        I agree with you. To quibble with the final sentence: that is veering into “group selection”, which is not a well supported idea and is not currently included in the mainstream body of the Theory of Evolution.

      11. Nelli P January 15, 2015 at 3:31 am

        that is so true. there is this youtuber called philochko. he always makes videos about russian and ukrainian women. he often says how even though he does have a type he still would rather choose a trustworthy girl over a super hot girl, because he needs to be able to trust her and make sure that te family stays together. all of it is cool and everything but then he saw kims naked photos and drooled over them. he said that he would give up anything to be with her and a woman like her motivates him to work hard.

        I was totally blown away by that. I was shocked. kim is a freaking slut. in a normal world she would never get a boyfriend after putting out a sex tape of herself and some random guy. if I were kanye Id be ashamed about having a daughter with a whore. but because US is so slut friendly, Kim gets a god man. and then phil this youtuber, forgets that a man is supposed to be looking for a trustworthy sweet girl. he sees Kims assets and wants her. most men in ukraine are like that. they see a girl that has big boobs for instance and will leave a good and supportive wife to be with this chick. after she screws them over they come to the manosphere to complain about women. karma is a bitch isnt it?

  14. TyKo Steamboat January 14, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    Eastern European women with long, pitch-black, shiny, straight hair. (something like Morticia Addams). Big, dark brown eyes. Of petite dimensions.

    1. Chips In Salsa January 14, 2015 at 4:25 pm

      The common stereo-type for Ukrainian women is the busty, blonde haired, blue eyed Russian girl but that is just not the case. They most commonly have the hair type you describe above.

  15. Boagrius January 14, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    Attraction is not a choice, it’s a reaction.

  16. Tent Mountain January 14, 2015 at 6:15 pm


    I am very grateful for your work. Thank you. It is making a difference.

  17. David Sutton January 14, 2015 at 7:55 pm

    Let’s see……..Lena Dunham or Jessica Biels. Hmmmmmmm. Choices.

    1. Graft January 15, 2015 at 12:24 pm


  18. SimpleDatingStrategies January 15, 2015 at 1:01 am

    Spot on Roosh V. Women AND Men want the best possible partner in order to give their offspring the best possible chance in life. All this shaming men into wanting women they are not attracted to is major BS.

  19. Fat Kelly Kelly January 15, 2015 at 3:12 am

    I agree wholeheartedly, as long as this also applies to other guys.

    If I want to fuck fat bitches (and I do, a lot), don’t start no shit with me. That’s some valuable time that I could use to fuck some fat bitches.
    Cool? Capisce? Comprende?

    1. Johnny Doe January 24, 2015 at 6:35 am

      That’s nice. Not everyone can fit in the gene pool at once.

  20. tropicalhotdognight January 15, 2015 at 6:52 am

    The title of this post could also be addressed to Roissy, who has been known to shame men who don’t share his taste in women.

  21. Quinton January 15, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    In regard to attraction is it possible for older betas or omegas to date a early 20s 8? Would a spam approach method make this more likely (approach 500 girls)?

    1. Roosh_V January 16, 2015 at 8:36 am

      You may run out of energy/hope/confidence before succeeding using a raw spam method, and assuming a relationship doesn’t succeed, you won’t have much will to start the process over again. In other words, it’s not sustainable.

    1. Just me January 15, 2015 at 7:26 pm

      Interesting article. I don’t think it’s fair to shame older men who find younger women attractive. Older women look at younger men all the time. What’s shameful, or pathetic however, are older men ( and women) who focus solely on trying to date much younger people. This really, really, really only works if you are rich and/or exceptionally good looking for your age. The vast majority of middle aged and up men and women are not rich and/or exceptionally good looking for their age. To these Johnny Depp/Madonna wannabes I say snap out of it.

      Regarding shaming men into dating unattractive women. Not right. “Oh, that obese greasy guy pumping gas is so hot” said no woman ever. That said, don’t expect the Victoria secret model type if you aren’t the GQ type. And for anyone who posts saying they easily bang hot chicks all the time despite their looks or age I say keep living the dream, in your head.

  22. Minerverse January 16, 2015 at 3:09 am

    “…women who don’t know the word “loyalty” unless it pertains to buying an Apple product”

    I lol’d.

  23. John January 16, 2015 at 10:44 am

    I used to think the girls in that Eric Prydz – Call On Me video were so hot until I recently saw it again after years. My first thought was ‘damn they got flat asses.’

    So I guess over the years I was ‘conditioned’ somehow to start liking a nice round ass. Not like Nicki Minaj-huge, but definitely more curvacious.

  24. Dom Suda January 17, 2015 at 9:08 am

    I’m black and prefer tight, white, younger girls. For me it’s:

    1.) white
    2.) latina (bc they could also look white then every other color)
    3.) asian
    4.) black
    5.) Indian

  25. ... January 18, 2015 at 2:13 am

    Roosh you are very hypocritical in saying that most men shouldn’t want a woman who has had dozens of sexual partners before him. Tell me how many women have you had sex with, would you like the women to be judging you for all the women you’ve slept with. I agree that men have the right to choose what kind of woman they want to be with but you shouldn’t be a hypocrite either because I hate hypocrites.

    1. Johnny Doe January 24, 2015 at 6:40 am

      Well, good point and maybe it will be touched on one of these days. Men are the reason many women they desire have stooped to such lows these days. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t go find the bar skank and only find bar skanks for a pump and dump and expect to be taken seriously–much like this guy I once knew who had been married (and divorced) three times. All his (ex) wives were bar trash. Once, okay…you and dumb Marine. Twice? Uh, okay. Thrice? I don’t know him anymore..

      Online example: I read a post on a forum from a guy who wanted “a good girl who has sex on the first date”

      Say what?

      1. bavieca January 26, 2015 at 1:09 am

        – You can’t go find the bar skank and only find bar skanks for a pump and
        dump and expect to be taken seriously–much like this guy I once knew
        who had been married (and divorced) three times. –

        If you as a man can’t offer resources or validation then women won’t take you seriously, skank or no skank. That guy you knew sure is helplessly beta to the core, married 3 times??? Jesus! How about never?

        – Online example: I read a post on a forum from a guy who wanted “a good girl who has sex on the first date” Say what? –

        The word “good” had been so abused and overused that it now had lost it’s original meaning and can practically means different things to different people.

        Was Adolf any ‘good’ (mass-murderer) ? Yes he was, his K&D ratio was 6 million to 1.

        Was Einstein any ‘good’ (mass-murderer)? Nah, he really sucked at it, his K&D ratio was 0 to 1.

  26. SlickyBoy January 22, 2015 at 7:07 am

    “…women who don’t know the word “loyalty” unless it pertains to buying an Apple product” EPIC line! Hilarious and soooo true!

  27. Misogynist January 23, 2015 at 3:09 am

    😂😂😂 when I read this blog and the comments below I laugh my head off.
    No wonder you guys are so fucked up. No normal woman would ever touch you 😂😂😂

    1. bavieca January 26, 2015 at 12:53 am

      In your mind what constitutes as ‘normal women’ are probably fatties anyway so thank God that you fatties be away from us farthest possible.

    2. Séan June 27, 2015 at 1:11 pm

      And yet you can’t refudiate one thing said anywhere on the blog or do anything else but dish out tired insults.

      Keep laughing.

  28. DeltaNaught January 24, 2015 at 9:18 pm

    I would rather cut off my own dick and eat it than have anything to do with a single mom

  29. Brian Lockett January 31, 2015 at 2:38 am

    “Their agenda scolds men for not liking…

    • women who have had dozens of prior sexual partners (women who don’t know the word “loyalty” unless it pertains to buying an Apple product)”

    Wait a minute, guy. Now, I certainly don’t disagree with the notion that an agenda going on with the media and politically-correct society on the matter of what a “real” woman is.

    And I do generally agree with the fact that we are definitely wired to seeking the more attractive women, as are women wired to seeking the more attractive men.

    But I’ve just got to say that, you can’t live on two sides of a principle here about the nature of promiscuity. Why are you calling out the issue of promiscuity among women as such a negative point here, when you’re the author of books on how to me a more promiscuous male? What am I missing here?

    I’m not pulling the whole “this is slut-shaming” card here or anything. I’m just dealing with simple logic. This seems to be a pretty damning piece of hypocrisy, man. You made a living teaching the notion of how to go about laying women all around the world, with virtually no real concept of loyalty.

    I believe in being candidly truthful, and saying the uncomfortable truths that have become socially taboo to acknowledge. But I also believe in being consistent to a principle, and not weakening the strength of my arguments with hypocrisy.

  30. Eric Lauder January 31, 2015 at 12:55 pm

    I always liked:
    Curvy women (“curvy” NOT ugly, gluttonous, gelatinous!)
    Strong women (I had a female soldier, an HR manager and a policewoman, during my “career” – but that doesn’t mean “masculine” – annoying, irritable, and whiny women are “radical feminists”, the opposite of “strong”)
    Women who have had dozens of prior sexual partners: these are my preferred ones! They’re the best in bedroom and even more in other rooms! 🙂
    Older women when I was young (especially the richer ones, but they had to have a good look!)

  31. Bill Phil February 8, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    agreed. don’t tell a man what type of woman he should be attracted to.

  32. Mana Capo March 8, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    The media it is trying us men to like tv programs like “sex in the city”(i do not like it) and “cougar town” i hate this type of TV programing

  33. CR7 April 7, 2015 at 8:28 pm

    I thought this would be about not telling your friend his girlfriend sucks

  34. Alex August 4, 2015 at 4:33 am

    Solid argument as always. However, why is it that in some places (Australia for example) we still see a lot of handsome, bulked up guys dating landwhales?

    I ve always scratch my head about this. I personally would rather jerk off than dating a walking meatloaf who looks like she could swallow me whole. If biology is indeed at work men should be hardwired to avoid these like the plague.

    Or is it just an example of “the thirst is real”?