“Don’t Text Me Again”

It has become clear to me that American women have lost the ability to deal with men in an adult manner, overcompensating for feelings of disappointment and rejection by lashing out like children. The best example of this phenomenon is the “Don’t text me again” message they send to guys that said or did something they didn’t like. I’ve been to over twenty countries now and America is the only one where I’ve received this message. Everywhere else in the world, girls will simply stop messaging you, but American women will regularly hit you with the toddler equivalent of “I’m not talking to you anymore!”

You sent her three messages in a row?

“Don’t text me again.”

You tried to make her jealous by commenting about going on a date with another girl?

“Don’t text me again.”

You had drunken sex with her and want to try again without all the booze?

“Don’t text me again.”

You jokingly told her not to be “flakey” after she cancelled yet another date?

“Don’t text me again.”

In America, the girl wants to let you know that you are experiencing a live rejection, even if you made a minor error. Because she is not comfortable is dealing with things that didn’t turn out in her favor, she wants to escape from any situation that may cause her to lose face or look stupid, in a way that shows she has power over you. That last part is important, because only in America does a girl want to show that you are beneath her in the game of sex where she obviously has so many suitors that she can flick you away like a little bug.

You may experience a form of their childish outburst when getting approached by a fat hog in a bar. When you make it clear, even on polite terms, that you’re not interested in a conversation with her, she will sneer at you like you just insulted her grandmother. I remember the time when a fat American girl approached me and was disappointed I didn’t engage her, responding with, “You’re not interesting. I don’t want to talk to you anymore.” She then gave a dramatic backturn and went to her friends, safe in her deluded mind that she didn’t actually get rejected. Her friends probably piled on and commented what a loser I was so she can continue living life with the thought that she’s a desirable woman who wouldn’t dare get turned down by any man.

What factors are present in the American culture that causes women to do this? Why are they quick to make another human being feel like shit? The sad part is that even some guys are doing this, too. They see that they are losing a girl and they resort to sending a “Don’t text me again” message.

The truth is if you’re sending such a message, you’ve already lost. You’re showing that you have been personally hurt, that you are a child who doesn’t know how to live in a world where it’s impossible to get everything you want. When a woman sends such a message, she shows that the culture has made her sick. Personally, I don’t know any man who wants to be with a sick woman.

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“What factors are present in the American culture that causes women to do this? Why are they quick to make another human being feel like shit?”

The superficiality of culture… where reality TV is replacing books. Where sluttery and snobbery is replacing charm and class. Where notions of a higher power and greater good is replaced by self-obsession and compulsion. The pool of good girls will unfortunately continue to decline, though many good ones are still out there.

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Wow was having this covo with a friend last night! ^^ agree totally with george ^^

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I approached a woman one time in a bar and merely said “hi” to her. Her response was fuck off bitch. I was flabbergasted but just walked away. If that ever happens again though, don’t know what reaction I’ll have. I might even jack someone’s jaw if pissed off enough.

Women only operate under the security net of the state and can count on the police or white knights to protect them. If that collapses or they piss off enough men who simply ignore them, they are in a boatload of trouble.

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@ Jim, next time just apologise and say that you hadnt realised they were a cunt.

What pisses me off about this is, lets face it in the club, the women you approach will always have more power than you at the start of the interaction.

Lets face it we are talking to them because we want to fuck them.

But out int the real world away from the club I ask what the fuck do they have going for them.

Have they done anything of actual interest to anyone in their entire lives

In my homecity of Aberdeen, Scotland, the women have a generally unapproachable vibe to them, they tend to be fat, ( a girl is considered hot here if she isnt noticably overweight and doesnt have like a deformity) and most off all there chat is fucking terrible.

Sorry for this rant, after a month of living in my pussy paradise that was Peru, its a bitter pill to swallow coming back to this.

Id like to thank the universe for allowing such places to exist.

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I hear you. It took me by such surprise that I was literally speechless. I’ve never been treated in that manner by anyone. Men certainly don’t treat other men that way because they understand consequences. Women don’t. At least not yet anyway. Their privilege buys it but how long will men continue to allow it?

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Where is Roosh getting all this material about American women if he has been gone so long?!

[Roosh: Being away gives me a better view of what is really going on there.]

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Rick91, second that. It’s more tolerable in the South West, but some chicks have enormous sense of self entitlement.

I sent a message to a girl on POF once, she had lingerie modelling pics in her profile. Ok body (just ok), moderate face, short red hair (suggesting she would be an easy (s)lay) – so I negged her slightly suggesting that maybe she should have a more feminine hairstyle. She replied “It’s feminine, you cunt!” – and that’s a 6!

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B.t.w., pretty much all of your example texts break the guidelines you’ve established for texting. The no-joking, the jumbotron thing, etc.

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“What factors are present in the American culture that causes women to do this? Why are they quick to make another human being feel like shit?”

Here’s a personal example, in case anyone is interested: at some point last year I discovered the Jersey Shore online (it hadn’t yet been on my country’s tv), and I was shocked by what I was watching and couldn’t believe my eyes.. So I watched the first couple seasons back to back I think, while I was sick in bed for 3 days because of a cold. After that I went immediately on holiday: I got in fights with my friends, I had the worst attitude I’ve ever experienced in myself, and I could feel myself being stupid, arrogant and cranky the whole time. Just by 3 days of exposure! Fortunately it passed (I hope!)..Embarassing to admit I watched this show, and I got punished for it!

I mean obviously the Jersey Shore is trash, we know that while we watch it, but I’m not sure we realize how much or in what ways it actually affects (some) people. :american:

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Ha, you think that’s bad? This weekend a woman punched me in the face with a clenched fist because I kissed her hand. She called it sexual abuse. Believe it or not.

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why were you kissing her hand?

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I just hope Europe will never be like that. Most girls here are still cool. I never ever got such a message from a girl. Not even when I behaved like an asshole.

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Relates perfectly to GL piggy’s latest post, quoting Christopher Lasch:

“The proliferation of visual and auditory images in a “society of the spectacle,” as it has been described, encouraged a similar kind of preoccupation with the self. People responded to others as if their actions were being recorded and simultaneously transmitted to an unseen audience or stored up for close scrutiny at some later time. The prevailing social conditions thus brought out narcissistic personality traits that were present, in varying degrees, in everyone – a certain protective shallowness, a fear of binding commitments, a willingness to pull up roots whenever the need arose, a desire to keep one’s options open, a dislike of depending on anyone, an incapacity for loyalty or gratitude.”

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I don’t want to sound like I’m defending American girls but as usual you should realize that the bitch shields exist for a reason.

In South America guys tend to be a lot more “beta” compared to the guys in bars in the US, but they know how to get a cue about when we want to walk away.

If a guy hits you on a bar in here won’t stop doing it until you either leave or bluntly and rudely tell them you’re not interested, in my experience, telling a guy nicely or avoiding him will only result in him gropping you, forcing himself to kiss you if he finds you coming out of the restroom or he will keep hitting on you until you act like a bitch.

In South A. A guy will realize you’re not interested pretty soon and just leave you alone.

The same goes for texting. You might have given a guy a number because you didn’t want to be impolite or changed your mind afterwards and American guys just don’t get a clue, they are terrible at reading body language or subtextual cues.

Also, I don’t mean to be too superficial, but some guys just seem to have no clue of what their league is. For every time you complain a hog hits on you, there is a pretty girl being hit on by a guy 3 or 4 points bellow her.

After a while it’s really hard to be nice and polite.

I don’t watch reality TV (or don’t watch much tv at all), I was born and raised in South America until I was 19. The only reason I had to create a bitch shield was because American guys are as clueless as American girls when it comes to flirting, courtship, body language and subtextual cues.

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@Bianca

What you say about South American men is simply not true. Brazilian men are the most aggressive men on the planet and their style of game would get them arrested in the US. It is not uncommon for Brazilian guys to force themselves on girls long after they have overtly said that they aren’t interested.

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You can still bang her after this message 7 out of 10 times, depending on what caused this reaction so I claim its not a bad thing, just a sign of how childish and unsuitable she is for dating.

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@Bianca and Safado

Latinos are way more aggressive and insisting than american guys. The huge, big difference, yet hard to notice by westerners is the way latinos hit on women. They make women feel good while at the same time dominating them, whereas american guys are cocky and arrogant who mostly think in terms of winning for themselves. Latinos are more generous, americans are more selfish.

This makes for zero sum interaction in america, where there’s a winner and a loser. That’s why women here don’t like being picked up.

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To quote the immortal Sam Kinnison ” You need to go where the food is”. Right now the food is in quieter bars that are conducive to polite conversation. Not bass booming mega clubs.

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” I remember the time when a fat American girl approached me and was disappointed I didn’t engage her, responding with, “You’re not interesting. I don’t want to talk to you anymore.”

“What factors are present in the American culture that causes women to do this? Why are they quick to make another human being feel like shit?”

Anarcho-Nomad
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Fuck it…this country is Use-Less.

The Private Man
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Guys should always keep in mind the power that they have over women in the dating and relationship context:

Men are the gatekeepers to commitment.

Never, ever forget that.

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Just send her text message 3 times:

I divorce you!
I divorce you!
I divorce you!

(this is the legal requirement in Islam)

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Bianca, what countries in South America are you referring to? What you said is certainly not true in Argentina or Brazil.

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@muc, you hope europe will never be like that, its a pretty diverse place and iam pretty sure a lot of it is.

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Colombia and Venezuela. I’ve never had to use a bitch shield to turn men advance’s down there. In the US, however, I got really tired of forced makeouts, butt gropping, approaches from guys way below my league and general insulting. It’s as if guys here are so desperate that a girl being nice to them or turning them down politely is a green light to being downright disrespecful to her.

Women have to learn to become masculinized in the US because they are not treated like a lady, even if she behaves like one.

[Roosh: I understand your point, but ‘Don’t Text Me Again’ doesn’t come at the approach. It’s after some connection has been achieved. Your example doesn’t concern this situation.]

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Women have to learn to become masculinized in the US because they are not treated like a lady, even if she behaves like one.

But men had to learn to become assholes because women had become such bitches. So what came first the chicken or the egg?

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@ 7 and Bianca

7- Neg messages online tend to be read as insults, especially if it’s about the girls appearance.

Bianca – I don’t know whos been hitting on you, but if persistence wasn’t rewarded, it wouldn’t happen. Some guys interpret that wrong and go hardcore CreepMode. If I’m chatting with a girl and we/she feel it’s not a good vibe and she politley excuses herself – I always respect that – shows class. In my experience, the most attractive girls know how to turn guys down in a polite way because they are keenly aware of their beauty.

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[Roosh: I understand your point, but ‘Don’t Text Me Again’ doesn’t come at the approach. It’s after some connection has been achieved. Your example doesn’t concern this situation.]

Thank you. I guess I was trying to explain the reaction with a bigger picture of what happens to women when they’re not being treated as such. There is no reward for politeness or femininity.

Most American women just don’t know or don’t want to be polite or feminine because it doesn’t benefit them at all.

@dean

I have no idea. It is sad that it has come to this. I am speaking from the perspective from someone who doesn’t want to let go of her softness, cheerfulness and femininity, but has had to create a shield for those who take advantage of that.

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”She then gave a dramatic backturn and went to her friends, safe in her deluded mind that…”

Women tell themselves a lot of fucking bullshit. The reason is that they cannot handle the truth.

I myself saw one of these ‘deluded fat hogs’ once. She walked around as if she was a model. It was farcical.

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I know lawyers recommend explicit “do not contact me again”, over radio silence, in case it comes to a court case.

Probably just another example of how lawyeritis and legalitis have destroyed what may once have been a reasonable society.

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Stuff like this doesnt happen after you get shot down so many times that your ego is smashed to bits. You know what works and what doesnt.
You will get a feel for when you’re not doing the right things. Remember all of this bitchiness can be avoided if a strong impression is made to begin with.

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“What factors are present in the American culture that causes women to do this? Why are they quick to make another human being feel like shit?”

(1) Increasing narcissism in young adults
(2) Decline of traditional values,
(3) Celebrity worship,
(4) The Superficial over the truth,
(5) Decreasing empathy/femininity in women,
(6) Moral relativism,
(7) Cultural toxicity,
(8) Blind materialism (career over family),
(9) Lack of social/religious cohesion,
(10) Increasing alienation and loneliness

I agree with this article.

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Roosh, i tried the “wait until the last minute to respond to a text/call attempt to cancel a date” but i couldn’t i was seething. this was the 2nd time this broad had done this. the first time, it was mutual for i had to work and go to class…i didn’t contact her againg for 2 months. she’s a bartender in my neigborhood…of course as soon as a brought another broad to said bar, she starts disrespecting the broad i’m with by asking me about us open tix (the fcuking nerve of this whore). alas, she kept suggesting the best days “for her” of course bc she works and bartends. Of her second flake and test–btw i had reservations which i had to cancel for brunch– i simply said enjoy the day for i knew i would be back at the bar in a cpl weeks. WHAT IS THEIR MALFUNCTION. this is NYC where chix outnumber dudes and damn near half the dudes are gay…WTF??!!

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American mass media culture creates the perception that you have to be a celebrity to have a healthy self-esteem. Facebook especially aggravates this perception, as anyone with girls on their friend list can see when the girl gets fifty likes from every vapid instagram.

The problem is that in reality almost everyone is a nobody. In the past you didn’t have celebrity being rubbed in your face via a telecommunications device every minute of the day, so it was normal to be content with just a few close friends and family. Now real friends aren’t good enough, to feel important people have to have hundreds of facebook friends in order to give themselves the impression that they’re important.

The problem with this is that maintaining normal real life friendships requires one to not be an asshole, whereas maintaining phony internet mediated celebrity requires one to act like a histrionic reality show contestant. Unsurprisingly the result is that American women plugged into this shit start acting like nutcase drama queens, hence the fattitude, insulting behavior, and eggshell thick self esteem that requires around the clock defensiveness in order to protect.

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The problem is not the women, but the men.

American men simply take women too seriously.

They actually believe that men and women are equal.

Nowhere isn Latin America, Africa, and Asia is this belief held – hence better behaved women.

How can an inferior creature respect the superior when the superior is acting inferior and treating the inferiro as its equal ??? The answer is it can’t ….. hence the american woman.

She knows she’s inferior and resents being trated as equal or superior….she’s dying to be put in her place.

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Preach K!

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K while agree with you whole-heartedly, the gotdamn feminist, i.e. lesbian movement seeks to castrate us and make us into cowering pussies; in addition it has given many of us (me, for ex.) pause before we say what you just intimated. the ONLY thing i would change about your comment is the “inferior v superior paradigm.” i would say rational vs. irrational? women are IRRATIONAL and unequivocally inferior when it comes to, physiological function, honesty and rationale…
I mean, is it a coincidence chix by and large don’t trust other chix even there “BFFs?”

P.S. Roosh, what do i do about this whore that bartends in my neighborhood; here’s a little item to rev you up some more…she was born in RUSSIA but she grew up in the states. hence, your tome as to women being drastically changed due to westernized culture holds o so true!

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*their…i’m educated.

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I learned in church that when men start acting like MEN and not males, that’s when society falls back into place.

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@DAP

Think about it though, who’s really holding back from men being able to do this? Other men (i.e. the state and white knights). Women do more and more things these days that if a man did, he’d deserve at the least a good crack in the jaw. Think about how fucked up this scenario is, a guy comes back from Afghanistan to find his wife has been using his money to support her new child that he didn’t know about and her baby’s daddy. Happens more than you’d think. And there’s no real punishment for her, just him. However, you sneeze the wrong way around a woman and your job and/or freedom are in jeopardy. Now we could all be here and talk about how we’ll act in macho defiance against all this but the way I look at it, I’m only living once, don’t really care if society crumbles, and am going to look out for myself. So instead of fighting a system you’re set up to fail in, just don’t play the game. Sometimes the best action is to fold. Martyrdom isn’t an admirable trait.

But this is what the powers that be want, females in “control” economically. Why? Because they’re easier to manipulate and control themselves. I’ll try to find it, but there was this study about the make up of credit card debt in house holds. Long and short of it was that while men had some frivilous items on there statements, they had alot of home and car upkeep items and overall things that the family needed on their statements. The women, had more debt and a significant more of it was things like more cosmetics, clothes, useless things that were really only for her. As a whole (I know some women whom are very good with their money), they aren’t very good, which makes them easier to control. THey won’t use that money to create weath and expanded, it’s really just the countdown to when the give there money back to companies via consumer goods.

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Part of this phenomenon can be attributed to the well hashed out idea that women are typically more myopic than men.

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@NYC= dude

No offense but I think the issue might be you are a little too long-winded. I think if you listen more and talk less you might do better. A first step would be to use proper grammar and spelling on the internet. I’m not saying this to insult you, I’m saying this because it sounds like you are typing your thoughts with no reflection, written diarrhea if you will.

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@20th Level

“Right now the food is in quieter bars that are conducive to polite conversation. Not bass booming mega clubs.”

I couldn’t agree more. Bass booming clubs are attracting narcissistic, empty-headed overweight chicks with too much makeup.

Girls are less likely to be in big groups in the small quiet bars, and they are likely to not have expectations about their “girls night out at the club popping buttles.”

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the vast majority of girls I meet, talk to, date, and fuck, are not really worth the time and energy I put into meeting them. I deal with super bitches at the bars, like anyone. I get snubbed by girls who are not as attractive, intelligent, and accomplished as I am, on a regular basis. the numbers I get from day game are nicer, but they usually flake and start ignoring my texts within a few days. I do at least ten approaches a week, bare minimum, often several times that, even though I get sick of dealing with the same bullshit day in and day out. I do it because I want to have better game and better girls in my life, and these are the girls I have to work with, right here and right now. the one thing I wish I could change most of all is my outlook on dating and social culture here…because I think it sucks. that outlook, even though it may very well be true, makes it seem ten times harder to go out in the field and do my approaches.

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Roosh,

I’m gonna be real interested to see what you have to say after spending some time back in the states

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Roosh did you get this in Scandinavia too?

[Roosh: I didn’t date in Scandinavia but I wouldn’t suspect it happens less.]

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@ doug
how’s this?

This broad flaked twice. The first instance was just a bad day for both of us; however, the second time, after her insistence on meeting up, i made brunch plans only to have her flake, yet again. Do i cancel this whore? My ego wants to but my d*ck likes her face. haha

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I have never texted or told someone on the phone “Don’t contact me again.” No one has ever done that to me either. If it happened, I would have to ask myself what I had done to provoke such a strong reaction. It might not be my fault — the other person might be whacked — but I would have to seriously scrutinize my behavior before condemning hers. If it happened on a routine basis, then I would say it was a pattern that suggested I was either being a pest, “stalking” or at least being incredibly indsensitive to the cues that govern normal human interactions.

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NYC dude. Come on mate. The girl flakes out twice, then tell ‘er off and move on.

You know the answer already, so why ask? Tell her off. “I don’t have time for flakes, sweetheart. You’re 10 pounds overweight, btw.”. Adios. The f*cking end.

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“Women only operate under the security net of the state and can count on the police or white knights to protect them. If that collapses or they piss off enough men who simply ignore them, they are in a boatload of trouble.”

Never gonna happen. Feminism was alive and kicking in the US well before the 60’s, well before the Prohibitionistas, and well before the Suffragettes.