When I was a teenager, the idea of “experience” was aggressively pushed onto me. The only way I could grow up and enjoy life, I was taught, was to get a lot of experience. It would make me a mature, responsible adult. I went on to rack up a lifetimes’ worth of experience all around the world, and now that I look back at it all, I see that it was a waste.
In 2007, I backpacked for six months through South America. I started in Ecuador and snaked my way through half of the continent, eventually ending up in Rio de Janeiro to celebrate Carnival. During that trip, I met hundreds of people and saw countless exotic sights. I drank in dank bars and had deep conversations with dozens of Australians about nothing. I went through six years of experience in only six months. Where is that experience now? How does it help me today outside of the specific task of taking a road trip?
If I were to write a memoir of my life, the most prominent lessons would be knowing how not to live, what not to do. I was floatsam on the river of Western culture and yet gained nothing. I traveled, developed worldwide notoriety, and “explored my sexuality” with female partners who wanted to do the same, and yet I’m firmly on my way to forgetting most of it. You could argue that knowing what not to do is valuable wisdom, but was it worth half my life?
When those who control the culture tell you to gain experience, what they’re really telling you is to gain experience with sin. They certainly don’t mean experience with prayer, going to Church, and understanding the Bible. Instead, they want you to exercise your sin muscles and develop addictions to money, lust, and achieving a level of status among other worldly people so you can convince yourself that they will all gnash their teeth in your absence, but experience is just a code word for sin, and the more experience you participate in that is disconnected from God, the more you please Satan and his efforts to condemn your soul.
I see experience as a shovel. Every time you embrace the world for a new experience, you dig out a chunk of earth from where you stand. The hole around you gets deeper. There is no pause between your experiences, or else you’d wonder why you are becoming surrounded by dirt, and by the time you get exhausted from all the digging, you find that you’re stuck in a pit of worms that your shovel can’t help you climb out of. Some people keep digging, because all they have is a shovel, but soon the pit becomes a chasm. There is no escape, and as you dwell with the worms, you look at the shovel and feel a sense of disgust. It wasn’t the tool of your salvation that you thought it would be.
If while in the pit, you see experience for the lie that it is, and beg God for help, He will lower down a ladder. You start the climb, nervous that the ladder will fail you. You step over the first rungs (prayer) and gain confidence that it will hold. You step over the next rungs (the Bible) and feel a brightness in your soul unlike you’ve ever experienced before. You can finally see the top of the pit, and then you step over the last rungs (the Church) until you lift yourself out and step onto firm ground. You crane your neck over the edge to look down into the pit and marvel that it’s so deep you can’t even see the bottom. You begin to lift the ladder out, and realize it’s as light as air, and you take it with you because you know it will come in handy for an even greater ascension to come.
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Your articles are getting better with every entry. My heart was definetly moved because I felt tears coming up after reading it.
Thanks, man.
Lately I have been thinking deeply about the effects the industrial revolution has had on our lives. I am originaly from eastern europe. I remember the old people during my childhood and even now. They had some issues too but they had some kind of aura that is hard to explain. An aura of nobelty and determination. They usually didnt have many years of education but they werent stupid at all. I was thinking what actually changed. I dont see this nobelty nowdays. I was thinking about this for a long time. What I concluded is that the main reason of this is the way we measure masculinity has changed. In modern capitalist society masculinity is measured by two things,1. the amount of sex and sexual partners you have and 2. the material possesions. No wonder today a guy like Dan Blizerian is the dream life of today guys. Back then masculinity was measured by integrity, the good following of traditions, by serving you family and your community, and not by the above superficial measures. That’s why the looked so noble.
You’re not the only one: https://www.rooshv.com/ted-kaczynskis-manifesto-predicted-the-catastrophe-from-technology-and-liberalism
That is an insightful article Roosh. That’s why weapons are destroyed or refashioned for peaceful purposes before Christ starts his millennial reign (Psalms 46:8-9; Isaiah 2:4). I also think,t that’s why the elements will be destroyed with fire (2 Peter 3:10-12). When Jesus returns he will literally burn this world system to the ground while simultaneously protecting those in his sheepfold.
The people of the WW2 generation, and in some cases Baby Boomers, had character and spirituality that is unparalleled to the current social wreckage. To a large extent, they didn’t base their self worth, or other people’s self worth, on such trivial things like career or neighborhood or status. The women were quite different too. I don’t have any illusions about female nature, but they at least upheld their social responsibilities of tending to the home and family. I can’t recall my grandparents ever gossiping or embracing materialism. In the case of eastern Europe (they were from Ukraine), they had seen so much suffering so as not to acknowledge the existence of God and the devil.
TBH, Dan Bilzerian is the result of the corruption developed by the earlier generations. Was Hugh Hefner a millenial? In fact, the earlier generations had more people (specifically men) having more sex than what we have today. Just that they didn’t have social media and the internet way back then to boast about it and post explicit content about them, as the present young generations do today. Plus you’d be surprised that the vast majority of sugar daddies who are maintaining young women or sugar babies both on the internet and in real life, are from generations preceding Dan Bilzerian’s – simply because it was much easier way back then for those men to hoard wealth.
And today, with the skewed dynamics in the sexual marketplace as lesser men are getting laid than their predecessors, any person like Hefner or Bilzerian will inevitably get glorified as a paragon of male virility or masculinity, in a culture which glorifies lust, fame and wealth to begin with. It’s then unsurprising to see his popularity and cult like status, because he’s experiencing sexual abundance in a pleasure worshipping decadent society where a lot of men are not experiencing the same as him. A decade or more back, in the golden era of pickup gurus, PUAs were glorified and had their own cults too. Because sex was glorified way back then too.
Developed societies have always been worshipping the 7 deadly sins for decades, Dan Bilzerian just is the present poster child for it today. He’s got the money, he buys the hot women, and he shows off the extravagant lifestyle of narcissism, greed and vanity. But he’s not the only or the first one. There are others like him too, and there were many like him before him too. He just advertised himself well in today’s social media paradigm, like Hefner did before him in the age of television and magazines. In fact, Bilzerian himself admitted to having Hefner as his role model in an earlier interview, and how his own sexual abundance was a part of a setup that he manufactured, just like Hefner before him.
But who created the present paradigm where men like Bilzerian are glorified? It’s the elite men from earlier generations who are at the top and creating the social paradigms where men like Bilzerian can thrive. Not that I condone Bilzerian. In fact he pays women for pleasure and temporary companionship, just like Hefner does. Yet modern culture and society, with all the skewed imbalances in the wealth gap and sexual marketplace, favors and glorifies him.
“Not that I condone Bilzerian. In fact he pays women for pleasure and temporary companionship, just like Hefner does. Yet modern culture and society, with all the skewed imbalances in the wealth gap and sexual marketplace, favors and glorifies him.”
Indeed. If it were not for his money he wouldn’t be getting his women. Based on the bio from Wikipedia, this dude paid one million dollars to be in some movie. Seems like everything he does, any affection he gets from women is all artificially propped up via being paid for.
And you are correct that this has been going on for generations in societies have been successful, but social media makes it easy to “get yourself out there” as the expression goes.
Dan Bilzerian doesn”™t actually have any money, it”™s all paid for by a promotion company designed to market him to sell shit via social media. Look it up, dudes wealth is vastly exaggerated and his whole image is a lie.
Indeed I saw the doco about him and could not understand why it goes mostly unknown
The worst part of the ”˜experience”™ lie is that so many people perpetuate it as a way to make themselves feel better about buying into it in the first place.
Thank you Roosh for speaking a hard truth where so many others would just repeat a lie.
I drank some Monster Energy recently think it made me paranoid
I know exactly what kind of people dislilke this comment
My ex used to have a blog called The Experience Junkies. You can suppose what she was into… being the female version of Roosh.
great article. I wholeheartedly agree
Agreed. I’ve had the suspicion that “international travel”, “the college experience” and other modern wisdom were just tricks for young people to waste their hard earned money and most importantly, their time.
Agree. Also, I suppose the so called “experience” is a very effective way to uproot and eradicate young people from their own communities. In this way the system can count on lonely individuals, easily manipulable, that will enslave themselves to meaningless jobs, moving from one city to the next without having time to build any meaningful relationship. On the contrary, having young people who form a strong bond with their community (and vice versa), is the stepping stone to create a strong society founded on a different set of values (maybe a return to traditions). Whoever wanted the society we live in today, is very scared of those kind of traditional values and are working very hard to destroy them completely.
You’re absolutely right. But unfortunately a majority of the present, immediately preceding and subsequent generations will fall for this bait, and predictably end up alone – simply because they would be unable to pair bond due to sexually promiscous “experiences”. Show me a promiscous man or woman and I will often show you an emotionally and psychologically hardened person with often a lot of “baggage” and a reluctance to pair bond sincerely to a single person, simply because their past or present promiscuity has often damaged that ability. But that’s Satan’s ultimate agenda – to drive an insurmountable wedge of distrust between men and women by corrupting them both – and he’s winning a lot of souls as of now in modern societies.
This is a valuable insight. There was a time when a man and woman married upon completing education in order to have children and build a community. These communities were able to resist foreign invaders and abuses of power. They formed organic social networks independent of government. The 20th century initiated the mass destruction of the village and the community. The trubulations of the 21st century will likely complete this destruction.
The worst case is when people travel but never really experience the foreign land. They fail to notice whether there is a black market, a shadow economy, or how big it is. What the country does with its trash and sewage, do you have to bribe your way through life. Some really don’t care as long as they’re having fun in a guarded resort, and if that’s the case, the poorer the tourist destination the better. In communist Poland government functionaries would just drive down the street oblivious to the poverty and the struggle for basic necessities and survival they could see out of the car’s window (in the 1980s the average citizen would spend 1.5 hrs waiting in lines every day), probably they felt gratified and could revel in their illusion of superiority. Those tourists who want real world experience, should get a job in the underground economy, and they’ll learn more about life in a day, than after years at a university.
Put aside your regrets, Roosh. Even your sin was God’s plan. An argument against Christianity is that one can sin for most of their life, decide to believe in Jesus, have all their sins forgiven in one instance and then reach heaven. As if all that was necessary was to manipulate the rules in order to mazimize one’s pleasure. Yet that ridiculous argument doesn’t consider the regret and sorrow one feels when realizing they had wasted much of their life on sin. And how much damage they had wrought on other people’s lives. And how empty their life is as a result.You have much time left on this earth to help others and ease their suffering, as Jesus commands us.
True, but at the same time I do think that this whole “experience” chasing doctrine that the societal engineers push onto the masses could be another ruse to activate the DRD4 gene (“wanderlust/whore gene”) in many people. Scientists over the past decade have now isolated and also linked adventure seeking, ADHD and promiscuous behavior to an activated DRD4 gene in humans – which is then often genetically propagated to offspring and subsequent generations (as it is now being understood that cheating and promiscuity may also be genetic). But if that claim is indeed true, then one of the effective ways to push social corruption further is to indoctrinate people (especially young people) to chase a life of “wanderlust” and adventure seeking to awaken the dormant DRD4 gene in them, even if their preceding ancestors already had that gene activated. There’s a lot of source material about DRD4 gene online and on YouTube, and how it plays a role in adventure or experience seeking behavior.
This recent theory about the activated DRD4 gene may also explain why North Americans or nations with significant immigrant populations (eg. parts of western Europe, and the commonwealth like New Zealand and Australia) may have many people inclined to promiscuity today too (apart from the liberated culture that they’ve been indoctrinated with for decades), because they could’ve also inherited the activated gene from their wanderlust seeking predecessors/ancestors who migrated there.
So the elites must push more immigration into the developed world, and also socially indoctrinate people to chase a life of wanderlust to awaken the DRD4 gene among those people in whom the gene is still dormant. It’s a puzzling theory by geneticists, but may very well have weightage with more evidence with time just like microchimerism which many doctors today are endorsing too.
God cannot will evil, so sin is not God’s plan.
The Bible makes clear that the original sin was part of God’s plan. (Ephesians 1:3-4) If the original sin was part of His plan, then all sin afterwards was part of His plan. Though sin was part of His plan does not mean He is the source and cause of the sin. The Devil rules the world only because God allows him to. Ultimately, “we know that ALL things work togetherfor good to them who love God, to them who are called according to his purpose.” (Romans 8:28)
No, that’s not true. God’s plan was to have all people in the paradise that he created for Adam and Eve. He gave us, out of love, his biggest gift: our free will. Every being that has reason can freely choose to love God. But our first parents, Adam and Eve, committed the first sin and had now the consequences of that sin. So, if Adam and Eve hadn’t commited the original sin, we would be all in paradise on earth now, without illness, without having to work, without the consequences of sin. There we would have only to go for a walk with God.
It seems that you are teaching the heresy of Calvin. Please read:
 94.-That God predestines man to sin and to hell, and Faith alone in Jesus Christ is sufficient for salvation. Under that link:
https://sensusfidelium.us/apologetics/history-of-heresies-their-refutation-st-alphonsus/the-errors-of-calvin/
and this: VI-Â GOD CANNOT BE THE AUTHOR OF SIN.
https://sensusfidelium.us/apologetics/history-of-heresies-their-refutation-st-alphonsus/god-cannot-be-the-author-of-sin/
Małopolskie ? Ok Tarnowa ?
No need to castigate yourself. Even the Amish people allow a time for their young members to gain life experience (rumspringa).
The underlying issue of what you are describing is that what is past is past even when it was the best possible experience at that time.
Even if you had children, what you say you desire, this period is over and becomes the past when they move out of your house.
The past is the past WHATEVER you did.
I am a Romania Orthodox in Italy and your articles are a fresh breath especially for young people that are constantly pushed to “experience”! Amazing work Roosh!
My story is similar to yours, minus the internet status and fame (I started out a few years ahead of you). International traveling, seducing ladies, searching for ever more exciting experiences… And in the end emptiness and a bitter acknowledgement that it was mostly a waste of time.
While I have not had a religious epiphany, I have come to realise “experience” has not made me a better man. Rather it has diverted my energies and time from valuable endeavors (creating a healthy and happy family, achieving inner peace, putting my talents at the service of something meaningful and greater than myself, becoming a valuable member of a community, developing strong ties with other people), towards fleeting superficial pleasures.
A few of those experiences have been valuable. Most of them were worthless.
Sleeping with a hot slut or sluts, whether she may be local or foreign, young or older, often produces no lasting contentment down the line. It’s often mere tactile sensation and pleasure down below, till you get your orgasm and for a little time after that. This is unfortunately how modern society works. It’s like many modern men are merely masturbating themselves with the bodies of modern women, and vice versa – without any real emotional fulfilment or pair bonding.
This article kinda dovetails well into a piece you wrote 6 years back called “7 reasons why American culture is the most degenerate in the world”. To quote from it:
“If you want an American to hate you, simply succeed in life. No other country breeds people with such feelings of inferiority to think that another person”™s success is their personal failure, as if everything in life is zero-sum. In fact, the phrase “Keeping up with the Jones’” originated in America as a direct result of our envious view upon our neighbor.”
Here “success” can easily be substituted with “experience”. Our culture today teaches us to seek out as many “experiences” (albeit often shallow and worthless ones) as possible, to feel fulfilled and “successful” in life. If you’re not getting the experiences of getting laid enough, having enough orgasms, making enough money, driving luxury cars, owning worthless clutter which you don’t really need, not traveling enough, eating exotic foods, or getting enough likes and popularity on social media or fame – our pleasure obsessed culture often indoctrinates us that you’re unfulfilled as a human being without these. Even if you already might be contented without them. Basically we’re subtly taught that we’re indolent and must have to shake ourselves out of inertia to chase these shallow experiences to feel fulfilled. And this phenomenon is common in most of the developed and developing societies in the world.
Basically, envy is thrust upon us through social indoctrination – even if we may not feel envious of someone already having more such “experiences” than us. Look at the subtle messages we find on social media. They all push the masses onto the hamster wheel of chasing such “experiences” – but there’s often no real contentment as the hamster is still running on the same spot on the wheel.
Such experiences are thus often like the salt water of the ocean, they’re endless. You can drink as much as you want from it, but you’ll feel more thirsty with every gulp. You explained this analogy similarly in an earlier article when you mentioned how you felt more triggered to find more women to sleep around with once you started to get laid, while on your dry spells you weren’t really caring about getting laid enough as the dry spells prolonged.
The elites have thus successfully created a society of people who’re addicted to chasing experiences. Again dovetails into an earlier piece you wrote where you mentioned how the easiest way to control the people is through pushing them to pursue pleasure, than through strict laws. The more they’re addicted to pleasure, the more oblivious they are to the fact that they are being controlled by the ones who peddle the pleasure to them.
Not all experiences are necessarily always bad, because much of the technological advancements we have today is the result of humanity seeking out worthy experiences. The scientists, health workers and inventors who wanted to experience scientific and technological breakthroughs. The farmers who wanted to experience harvests. The intellectuals who taught us wisdom through their experiences.
Unfortunately, these experiences means nothing to a lot of people in society today, as what we have today are hordes of people who are just chasing the wrong type of “experiences”.
This reminds me of one of the most frustrating conversations I’ve ever had. Me and my ex-friend were like brothers from another mother for about 14 years. Then the two of us going in different political directions started the deterioration of our relationship. We started out both basically being garden variety, left of center/left libertarian liberals. Then as I got older and broadened my knowledge and began to see Leftism for the lie that i was, I became more conservative. He in turn,became more “Woke.” In hindsight, I think his return to college to further his education was a major factor in him going in that direction. Though upon further reflection, there were also other signs in his past that indicated that he would be ripe for being prodded down that path without much effort.
When we first met years ago, one of the major things that we bonded over was our shared disenchantment with Christianity at the time. As such, I knew in my gut that once I told him of my return to Christ, that our already zombie/in a coma on life support friendship, would further decay and/or die.
Most of the precise details are hazy, but I remember us conversing about religion, and him essentially going off on a rant against the concept of objective truth. I pushed back enough for him to backpedal on his stance. He claimed that contrary to what he had just said, that he actually believed in an objective truth. However, he claimed this “objective truth” was based on personal experience. I found this particularly ironic, as one of his main grievances against Christianity was “Christians” like Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson, saying random stupid things that angered him. One of the main central tenets that define charismatics like Roberts and Robertson, is the valuing of subjective spiritual experiences over the solid rock of scripture.
As such, he and his family, the last time I was in contact with them, became members of a Unity church. While not the same as a Universal Unitarian church, nevertheless, identical in essence (i.e. nominally Christian, while being a big tent for every false religion under the sun, and generally holding to New Agey doctrine.)
TBH, a lot of men turn “woke” for 3 major sexual reasons:
1. To get supposedly easy access to liberated modern females, to do away with their own inceldom or lack of sexual abundance. The usually common result of that approach is simpdom down the line.
2. To justify their own cuckoldry if their partners cheat on them in the name of “liberated wokeness” – pretty common among celebrities who espouse “open relationships”
3. Because they’re bullied into covert homosexuality or bisexuality by a “woke” modern society
90% of “well initiated” men into this paradigm of modern “wokeness” often fall into these three major types. Right out of the ancient pagan cult of Astarte which was popularised by Jezebel during Biblical times. Ahab was a Biblical example of a “woke” man then.
There’s also another category that my ex-friend, as well as another ex-friend of mine, both fell into. It’s basically a variation of category 1.
To keep things simple, I’ll call the ex-friend I elaborated upon in my prior post “J”, and the other ex-friend “A.” J was definitely left-leaning, but not full on Woke. A, was basically apolitical from what I could gather.
J met up with this woman at a tea party in the city he was living in. Besides claiming to be a “Christian Witch,” we got into a debate over nature vs. nurture. While I acknowledged the role of nurture, I ultimately gave a slight edge to nature. She was full-on nurture, 100%, no brakes (which is very characteristic of Leftists of all stripes, and further feeds their victim mentality.) When J went back to college, for one of his art projects, he made a “Wanted” poster of Christopher Columbus, based on the Woke narrative of Columbus being an unhinged genocidal maniac (which is just as much mythology as him landing in North America, and proving the world was round.) Eventually, he accidentally got her pregnant, and they had a self-imposed shotgun wedding to save face with their families. Since then, I’ve noticed the following dynamic between them: J being a submissive house husband, while his wife is an archetypical termagant/harridan.
A was a pretty laid back guy, for the most part. Then he ended up moving out to California. As soon as I noticed on his Facebook page that he had hooked up with a black-rimmed bespectacled woman, with a bob cut dyed in wild colors, and spouting typical SJWisms, I knew what was coming. Sure enough, lack of firm belief ultimately gave way to Wokism; marching lock and step with her. They’re married now as well.
My oldest brother also went through a similar metamorphosis. He had girlfriends before and didn’t have trouble acquiring sex (neither did the aforementioned, but I will touch on that later.) Nevertheless, he went through a particularly harrowing breakup. His friends introduced him to a woman who was the local village bicycle, in order to cheer him up. However, he ended up going into White Knight mode, and got into a relationship and then marriage to cure his ailing heart and rescue her from her plight (i.e. she had no power on at her house/apartment when he first met her.) They ended up having two children. Even so, they eventually divorced after her infidelity. He went into a long depression induced EverQuest binge in the aftermath. Through this, he ended up meeting and falling in love with a woman he met over that game. She lived in Oregon, and so he flew out to meet her, and eventually moved there and married her. Before that chain of events, if you had asked me to elucidate his political views, I would’ve given you a blank deer-in-headlights stare. Afterwards, he became an insufferably outspoken Leftist, getting into a particularly nasty and rancorous yelling session against my conservative other older brother.
The ultimate point I’m driving towards is this: none of these men were incels or had much trouble acquiring sex when they wanted it. None of them tolerated cheating/cuckoldry. For the most part, they were not covertly bi or homosexual (though J had some moments in retrospect.) What they all had in common was not being traditionally masculine, while having confidence issues and a sense of desperation regarding relationships. A very strong desire for a “happily ever after” with a white picket fence. In other words, a marriage with a woman, and the hope of a married life with a family became their “god.”
So you could possibly consider “submissive men who marry viragoes who convert them to Wokeism” a fourth category, or just a sub-variation of category 1.
Roosh, if you didn”™t have those experiences, you likely wouldn”™t have found God.
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. (Romans 8:28)
“To live with lucidity a simple, quiet, discreet life among intelligent books, loving a few beings”
https://don-colacho.blogspot.com/2010/01/intelligence-wisdom-stupidity.html
That wasn’t just a post. That was a sermon. Roosh, you boosted my faith and hope more in 3 minutes than church could have in 3 months.
Just to clarify (simply because I find this to be common these days), a church sermon is about the teachings of Christ, or biblical history and how it applies to Christ, not self-help topics. As awesome as Roosh”™s testimonial is, I think it”™s important to note that it shouldn”™t be confused for a church sermon. However I”™m glad his testimony inspired you to pursue Christ further!
Very good article and insight.
May Christ bless you Roosh!
Thank you man for your words.
Were not for all that “experience”, would have you found the path you are on now?
Osho (yes, sorry…) once said: only after being deeply atheist one can become a truly and fully believer. Only after diving onto worldly and bodily pleasures, one can value the spirit over all that. It’s easy to be a saint without temptations. You get the idea …
BTW I liked very much that shovel metaphor.
My uncle used to say: “experience is the hair comb life gives you after you’ve gone bald”
Cheers and blessings
You dont need to become a hedonist to trully become a believer. Thats false dialectic. By that logic people who havent perverted themselfs are not true believers or the more horrible crimes you commit the truer believer you will become. So a pedophile or a mass murderer is a bigger believer than people who didnt do those things or did lesser things? A prostitute who proclaims to be converted is a firmer believer of GOD than a person who followed him faithfuly from the beginning without debasing himself?
Another Great article Roosh your last one on prepping, self defence and what your thoughts on the Church’s reponse to the corona virus situation, was i think propably your best, but this one is up there as well.
The prose is improving and quite enjoyable, but the empire of red pilling you made should be passed on to other men. perhaps you can moderate it in absentee by issuing guidelines. The world needs this more than ever given the censorship.
This is amazing, thank you Father Roosh. I’m waiting for the next sermon.
Next up article: Why going to the bathroom to urinate and defecate is a sin.
Apparently the author does not understand the element of causation. That is to say that if he did not have his experiences, he would not have ended up where he is today, for better or for worse. Had the author not hit rock bottom, he would not have turned to his religion which he seems to relish in these days.
That said, I’d like to pose the question: What became of people before Christianity? Are their souls eternally Damned?
This is a pretty vile comment about defacating. As for causation, Roosh is demonstrating with this article his humility and repentence. His sin led him to where he is, but that does not mean he should celebrate that. As a proper Christian, he looks upon his sin with disgust and regret, no matter the result. For all we know, God could have allowed him to remain on the path to hell, where many of his old buddies are (Donovan Sharpe).
Bodily functions are a part of being human””grow up. My point about causation, which you are obviously too obtuse to see, is that R should see his experiences as a natural and normal path to his brand of spiritually. If he just stayed in his dead end job and didn’t bother to see the world in the way he wanted to, there would be a very good chance he would still be in a stagnant life, and he would be very indifferent to religion, if not out-right agnostic or atheist.
My point about it “being a sin to go to the bathroom” is about his over-the-top somewhat rigid christian perspective, which does more harm than good. People run from the church when the fundamentalists start laying down guilt trips.
The problem with predicting the future is that it doesn’t care what you predict.
The problem with predicting alternate history is that people think they have free reign to make up nonsense that has less bearing on reality than the average fantasy novel.
“People run from the church when the fundamentalists start laying down guilt trips.”
Wrong, what kills church attendance is ‘acceptance’ and being of the world with St. Flyod and pagan king Biden. Look up the data if you’re honestly curious.
You know who supports that and opposes honest, devout ‘rigid’ Christianity?
Enemies.
Declare Jesus is Lord and God raised Him from the dead if you can.
Gentlemen, Roosh arrived at where he is today not because of his classic escapade with sin, but because of the catalytic life event that made him realize that his carnal investments were for naught (which I”™m sure most of us in this community are already aware of) ”” one that God undoubtedly allowed to happen. Saying that though, it does not diminish the fact that he may truly be repentant for the right reasons. After all, only God knows the heart and it isn”™t anyone”™s place to judge others”™ faith. So with that said @JonW, while church attendance may be a reflection of one”™s faith, you cannot measure one”™s faith by their church attendance.
“while church attendance may be a reflection of one”™s faith, you cannot measure one”™s faith by their church attendance.”
I can measure whether or not “people run from church” by it.
Only God knows a man’s heart, but I’m not going to pretend the rest means outward signs are good and useful indicators of a person’s character.
Yet another dolt speaks.
Witch confirmed.
You have no standing to preach to anyone for you lack any moral authority.
Dumbass confirmed.
inside us, We have a seed for anxiety, the fear of missing out FOMO, the urge to go and find about living, and the culture feeds this seed with relentless propaganda about people achieving and happy. you don’t want to be left out, you want to do those things before time passes and you are too old to catch.
the human dilemma, is that when you act on a feeling that feeling will grow and come back stronger to demand more.
you act on anxiety to put it to sleep and after temporary time of peace it comes back stronger, dominating your perception of life, giving you the feeling that you are deeply unhappy and need to move again.
you act on fear, by giving it what it wants and escape the situation, and it will grow and grow, making you a coward a mean a dark envious person.
anxiety is a hidden fear, it is the fear of death, until you accept death wholeheartedly you will not find peace.
every-human being on earth should experience this world,
but that experience should not be about indulging our senses,
but bringing up the fear inside us so we can face it and choose to let go of attachment to life,
if this is properly done it will be easy to find the peace in ordinary routine things, it will be pleasure to have simple and deep conversations with family, it will be pleasure to walk and breath fresh air and you will be full.
This is why Stoicism has endured so long. The idea of not being afraid of death is key. And that all things come to an end. The drawback to Stoicism is that it asserts that nothing we do during our time on the planet really matters, and with that, one might lose ambitions to achieve something in life, but Christianity also states the same about personal ambitions. the difference is that christianity teaches it’s followers to fear death, and from the fear of death comes the ability to be manipulated.
Christianity does not teach it’s followers to fear death at all. “For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.” Philippians 1:21. This gives us an eternal hope that the best is always yet to come. I could be laying on my death bed, but have peace in my heart knowing that even still, the best is yet to come.
And as for personal ambitions, it teaches us to be motivated by love by considering others needs before our own. Also to not be worried about amassing large amount of possessions, that if we truly seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness that all these other needs of ours will be met by God Himself. In fact He is the only one that can truly fulfill our hearts desires. Our universe and everything in it was created by God for God, therefore whenever we attempt to take something as though it is our own, we are really stealing from God, and there’s a big difference between having something because we stole it verses having something that God has lavished upon us as a gift. Once we are redeemed by God we are given a new ambition which is to love God and His people. This new ambition can and often times becomes so much stronger than any selfish ambition we had while we were still chasing after sin for fulfillment.
I am not aware of any stoic that feared death as little as the least of the Christian martyrs… of which there are so, so many.
Stoicism doesn’t have the ‘guilty for being alive’ vibe that christianity has.
Thank you, Roosh. This explained me something. I have always wanted to live quite, tranquil little life. When I was younger, I felt really guilty because I was not interested in getting experiences and exitment and such. It is amazing how people can be brainwashed; I even felt guilty for NOT having sex before I met my husband. I felt there must be something wrong with me, not wanting to have fun at all!
After finding some TradCon blogs and later God, I realized there was nothing wrong with me and in reality, God in his great mercy protected me all the time. Why he does not protect all women that well, I do not know. My guess is he knows my character is not strong enough to carry the shadows of sexual sins; my own sins are quite enough burden for me. But perhaps stronger characters need bigger sins to finally find God?
Roosh when you were writing in PUA mode, you knew what you were talking about. You were doing it, and were successful. Now you have changed gears, but are still unmarried without children. You have not experienced the first second of living a square life with a square wife and going to a square job everyday, yet you want to be a teacher on this subject. On another issue, I see where your book GAME is selling for $50.00 on ebay.
Can anybody answer the question: what happened to those who have come and died before the era of Christianity? Are their souls eternally rotting somewhere? Given the fact that this is the Achilles’s heal to Christiandom, I expect to get either radio silence to this question or some sort of fairy tale response here on this forum…
Hello AG, not sure if they would help you, but here is my Catholic faith’s believe regarding people that died before Jesus Christ came to earth.
https://www.irishcatholic.com/where-did-dead-people-go-before-jesus/
The Church teaches that those who died in friendship with God before the Resurrection went to a place in Hell called the ”˜Bosom of Abraham”™. This idea is echoed in the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus (Lk 16:19-31); both men descended to Hell, but Lazarus was comforted, while the wealthy man experienced suffering. There was a great chasm between them.
This spiritual waiting room has been referred to as the Limbo of the Patriarchs or Fathers, where they remained until Jesus descended into Hell to free them.
After his death, but before his Resurrection, Catholics believe that Jesus entered Hell and preached the Good News to those hadn”™t the opportunity to know it in their earthly lives. In doing so, he opened the gates of Heaven to those who had died before him.
“Scripture calls the abode of the dead, to which the dead Christ went down, ”˜Hell”™ ”“ Sheol in Hebrew or Hades in Greek ”“ because those who are there are deprived of the vision of God. Such is the case for all the dead, whether evil or righteous, while they await the Redeemer: which does not mean that their lot is identical, as Jesus shows through the parable of the poor man Lazarus who was received into ”˜Abraham”™s bosom”™. “It is precisely these holy souls, who awaited their Saviour in Abraham”™s bosom, whom Christ the Lord delivered when he descended into Hell,” the Catechism of the Catholic Church reads.
“Jesus did not descend into Hell to deliver the damned, nor to destroy the Hell of damnation, but to free the just who had gone before him.”
This teaching reinforces the doctrinal idea that Christ is central to salvation, as it is through his life, death and Resurrection, that the possibility of eternal life is made real. Jesus”™ descent into Hell brought the Gospel message of salvation to complete fulfilment.
There”™s plenty of artwork depicting this story, often referred to as the ”˜Harrowing of Hell”™, where Jesus triumphantly bands together the righteous and delivers them from the realm of the dead.
Thanks for answering this. But where is your proof? Just because the church says so? With all do respect, that’s not proof enough for me I’m afraid. The church is based on the Bible, which is a document passed down by word of mouth before it was recorded in writing. You do not think that the accounts recorded could be highly distorted?
Roosh, you are so right, maybe instead of “experience” we should be asking for or seeking wisdom. I am Catholic, but I finally read the entire Bible (like a book from beginning to the end, and not just chapters or passages ) when I turned age 40. I learned that God says you have to ask him for wisdom, my understanding of this is that wisdom is not automatically given to us or earned with age, that true wisdom / discernment must be asked for and given from God. Also, I wish I read and really listened to Ecclesiastes  “vanity of vanities, all is vanity”, when I was younger and I would have known that ‘experience’ is a lie, and not learned the hard way, Thank you for your work and Merry Christmas.
There is nothing wrong with having experience as long as no one is getting hurt. Looks like you are having an emotional breakdown of consciousness. Many of the women you were with, perhaps you probably help more than you hurt. If you did not get them pregnant or give them an STD and you were a good experience for them; then perhaps them experiencing you was what they needed. Take some time and get off the train. Experience something different for e.g watch The Good Lord Bird. Perhaps you can learn something from someones else reality.
Offered up a half hour of suffering for you today, and a Rosary. Hang in there.
Thank you for this article! I’ve been feeling this way about the value of experience for years. I’m so grateful God got me out of that hell. It was all a complete waste of time and energy. Praise God for the body of Christ.
Oh wow! Beautiful article.
I’m just wondering if Roosh is confusing experience with Indulgence. Indulgence can certainly be a bottomless pit. Traveling seems to me to be a very interesting experience. I don’t see where it doesn’t hold value. I have good memories from places I traveled and interesting thoughts from interesting people. I don’t see how that’s any different from anything else people do as a pastime. I don’t think it’s a sin to have fun. I think the sin comes from over indulgence. If traveling is used to drink excessively and fornicate, that would be a different matter than from just the joy of seeing different places and experiencing different cultures. Of course excessive travel can be very stimulating and when we aim to be constantly stimulated, then we are overindulging. That could have bad effects, but I think it’s really more a matter of intent and the way we spend time as to whether that time is spent in a quality way. Roosh seems to be suggesting that which leads to stoicism. How can we do good works in the name of God if we are bored out of our mind? It takes some Spirit of our own to be closer to the Holy Spirit.
I still haven”™t decided whether Roosh is trolling or not.
i have to disagree that ‘experience’ is a waste’. I think the prism that we all view life through is to some degree shaped by our experiences/how we were parented/ what we did or didnt gravitate toward in terms of ‘interestes’ and beliefs…Roosh i think our ‘motivations’ with in us at any given point will have alot to do with what we experience at any given point in life as well. i went to cancun several years ago as a 50 year old..the bars /shopping didnt impress me..but what did was one morning i drove into the city..chose a spot and walked around. i came upon a small open air catholic church having a service. i was in awe and the humble nature of the participants..and through this began to see where my own american culture sas failing us in this area of life. i didnt go to cancun looking for anything in particulat..but in time i realized there were lessons woven into this .
25 years earlier i also drove from the united states to compete in a motor race in canada..my concept of canada at this time was that it was probably just an extension of the united states. i was wrong..it was eye opening and thought provoking in many areas
ani in 2003 i went to peru in south america with my liberal attorney wife…i was pretty liberal myself polkitically. at that time.but after seeing what life was really like in a country that reuly lacked wealth and opportunity opportunity (in comparison to the united states) i began to question alot of the american /western liberl ideologies…the children in peru were extremely well behaved..and the people were very pleasant and worked very well together..america never looked the same to me again after that..nor did my wife..we divorced a couple years later