Feminism Killed The Nice Guy

The problem with modern feminism is that it has disrupted a gender equilibrium that has existed for millenia. And yes, that equilibrium had men exerting their control and superiority over women, but it was an equilibrium nonetheless that has helped the human species perpetuate and colonize the Earth. Feminism’s successful foray on mainstream culture has destroyed that balance and made it increasingly hopeless for today’s man to land a decent woman who cherishes him, let alone one who can be a suitable mother to his children.

I will concede that some aspects of feminism are just and proper. Women should have some say of how many children they want, if they want to work, and if they want to get married (and with whom). They should not be held as sex slaves against their will. They should be rewarded based on their skills and accomplishments just like a man should, and equal pay for equal work is reasonable. However, today we have women overreaching and demanding more than their fair share. They want high positions not based on their skills but simply because they are female, continually shoving false “glass-ceiling” and unequal pay myths down our throats. They want courts to subjugate men they divorce for the most trivial of reasons, and they want to put-down and play any man who attempts to form a connection with them using a provider (beta) game that has worked for his most recent ancestors.

Unfortunately there will be no setting back of the clock. As long as women retain suffrage, our politicians will continue to appease them for votes by refusing to scale back anti-man laws. Unfit mothers will continue to keep custody rights while fathers pay support for a child who is brainwashed against him. Single motherhood will increasingly be glorified. And as long as American-style capitalism provides decreasing job opportunities for men, women will continue to excel in mundane office jobs that better suit their social, emotional brains instead of the factory and engineering jobs of the past that provided men with a fair income for his entire family.

I believe that today’s man can still restore his dominion in a world that is skewing against his favor by doing one thing: becoming a sexist. He must possess sexist beliefs for three reasons:

  • To have sexual relationships with women who are at least as pretty as he is handsome.
  • To assert his superiority over his female competitors in the workplace by playing the office game as well as they do (e.g. constantly bringing up accomplishments to managers, being outspoken, being two-faced, ass-kissing, and backstabbing).
  • To get laid at all.

In the past you didn’t have to believe that you were superior to women. The system was set up so that all you had to do was go to school, get a good-paying local job, and ask your mom to put in a good word with the neighbor’s cute daughter. The first girl you fucked would probably be your wife, you’d have your two kids, and you’d live the so-called American dream. Today this is not possible. Your father’s father would be unsuccessful at mating in today’s climate of feminism which has allowed a tiny percentage of alpha men to monopolize the best women. As American women become more obese and gross, there are fewer desirable women left outside of the alpha males’ harems. The nice guy is left with nothing but scraps—and those scraps have attitude.

While it doesn’t look good for you in terms of marriage, at the minimum any educated, employed man in a first-world nation should be able to sleep with a handful of decent women a year. But without having sexist beliefs, he will wholeheartedly struggle in that front. Here’s what it means to be a sexist:

  • Having a low level of respect for women.
  • Having the belief that the genders are not equal (you should nod or smile at the following quote: “A woman can do anything a man can do, as long as a man first shows her how”).
  • Not listening to them about anything.
  • Studying flavors of game based on the alpha-male model, an effective countermeasure to feminism.
  • Preferring the company of compliant, feminine women of different nationalities where feminism has not made strong inroads (Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, South America).

You don’t have to hate women and you don’t have to abuse them. You don’t have to commit any crimes against them. But you must believe that you are superior and deserve more than them. With the addition of game practice, you will then be sexually rewarded for those beliefs.

It’s a sad fact that the modern feminist withholds sex from the nice guy, disgusted with his subservience, while servicing the sexist alpha man, increasing his power and rewarding him with more sexual delights than he could have experienced since the days of Itzcoatl. The nice guy is weak and starved, left sexless and alone, a pathetic specimen resigned to the brunt of jokes in beer commercials and crappy sitcoms. If he wants to be procreate, he has no choice but to rise from the ashes a sexist. The more of those beliefs he accepts, the more he’ll get what he wants in the fucked-up world we currently live in.

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It is a fucked up world out there but there is a lot of truth to what you’re saying. As a man you can only react to what you see with your own eyes.

Women don’t dig providers. Women don’t dig available. Women don’t dig interested.

They want aloof, semi-asshole and challenge.

None of which are taught to young boys and girls during their development years. I have no sympathy for the modern women, because I know she’d throw me right over the golden gate bridge for a higher level alpha.

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“as a man you can only react to what you see with your own eyes”? more like your dick. you act like you have no brain.
classy, decent, self-respecting women definitely dig independent men (“providers”) who are available and interested.
we DON’T dig being disrespected by assholes like you.
for every woman who dates only based on looks, there are 50 men who do the same fucking thing. so yeah it’s a fucked-up world.
I would take a so-so guy who believes in feminism over a model who believes you ANY day. And yes I get some; so I’ll ignore your original insults and remarks about how I don’t shave or something equally idiotic.

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If you are superior, more intelligent, capable than men why would you need providers you dumb fuck?? Tell me? Maybe because you are none of those things that’s why. Feminists are just sexist bigot scum.

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“feminists” is a blanket statement for sexist females, totally ignoring those females who want equal legal rights.

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They don’t have them? In fact they don’t have them and more as you have female-friendly quotas in both education and the workplace? Or are you referring to the unfair bias in the legal system that allows women to receive far less prison time than men do for equivalent crimes.

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I’m referring to those who are actually supporting the cause and not those who you are most exposed to.

Black Knight
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That’s really not an answer.

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Late reply, I know, I barely use this account.

Yes it is. There are those who take it to an extreme and are irrational, and plain insane, which we are most exposed to, but I’m referring to those who are actually fighting for the cause that have legitimate concerns.

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The “unfair bias in the legal system” consists of juries’ opinions. Jurors are twelve unrelated individuals with minds of their own. This is also why Black men get life in prison while the white criminal on trial for an identical crime across the courthouse will get time served or a commuted sentence.

Heck, even two white guys can get wildly different adjudications. Take a sweet-looking young man from a good, Xtian family, and take a scummy young pothead with tattoos and a goatee — they both commit vehicular manslaughter, but the decnt boy gets a sympathy and a light sentence, while the MRA gets the book thrown at it.

This is not a “female-friendly quota”. This is giving perceivably “nice people” a much needed break, while giving “undesirables” what they deserve. (NO, I do not like it either, but it is also why men give pretty girls everything they want, while electing to ignore men’s needs or ugly women’s needs.) The law cannot force jurors’ opinions to match your prejudices. I wish they could, because it’s unbelievable that so many Black men are imprisoned for identical crimes while white men are allowed to go home and bang out hatred on their keyboards instead of serving even half the time as their Black counterparts.

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“Jurors are twelve unrelated individuals with minds of t
their own. ”

Which is the point, they’re ‘unrelated’ yet they all have the same bias, proof that the bias being expressed is ubiquitous.

“This is also why Black men get life in prison while the white criminal on trial for an identical crime across the courthouse will get time served or a commuted sentence.”

Exactly, minorities are treated unfairly due to racial prejudice and men are treated unfairly due to gender prejudice.

“Heck, even two white guys can get wildly different adjudications.”

Which is why we’re talking about on average and not individual cases.

“This is not a “female-friendly quota”.”

I know. That referred to hiring quotas, educational quotas etc.

“The law cannot force jurors’ opinions to match your prejudices.I wish they could…”

Why exchange one person’s prejudice for another’s?

“(NO, I do not like it either, but it is also why men bend over backwards for pretty girls, while electing to ignore men’s needs or ugly women’s needs. This “unfair bias” simply exists in humans.)”

So what? Are you saying we shouldn’t have a discussion about it or we should ignore it?

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“So what? Are you saying we shouldn’t have a discussion about it or we should ignore it?”

Hmm, you technically did nothing but angrily agree with everything I wrote. Yet I guess somehow you couldn’t tell that I don’t think we should “ignore it”. What we should all do is join in to demolish patriarchal beliefs that women are all weak & incapable, whilst men are all manly & have little control of themselves or their actions. Because it is these patriarchal beliefs that many of us hold very dearly, even if internalized as scientific or even societal absolutes, and it is these patriarchal beliefs that will continue to guarantee inequitable treatment between sexes/colors/classes.

The realist in me tends to lean more toward the defeatist in me however. We are too prone to accepting prejudices — whether “Blacks are more inherently deserving of harsh sentences because ghetto & single mothers, yo“, “men are stronger and have more testosterone ergo their violent crimes are more deserving of jail time than a tiny woman smacking a big man”, to “men favor youth and a bust/waist/hip ratio that implies good mothering genes in a mate (despite having no intention of becoming a co-parent)”. We simply believe what we get told from external sources every minute of every day. At what point do we tell everyone to stop believing everything history has ever taught us about men versus women?

If a man held up a liquor store with a gun, I’d easily vote to give him the same sentence as a woman doing the identical crime. If a [large] man pummeled a [smaller] woman with his fists in anger however, I would vote to give him a harsher sentence than a [small] woman pummeling a [larger] man with her fists in anger — because the crimes are egregiously different. But if a man beat down someone of his own size, and a woman beat down someone of her own size, they should receive equitable sentencing. There’s a world of difference between assault that causes great harm versus assault that causes superficial-at-worst harm.

We tell out daughters to NOT make dating/romantic decisions based on a boy’s income or potential future wealth; we tell our sons not to base attraction on girls’ beauty or physique. Until every parent, everywhere instills this lifting of preferential filtering in the future generations, we will all still hold onto internalized prejudices that keep “undesirables” treated less fairly than those we teach our kids are superior.

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THE PATRIARCHY!!!! THE PATRIARCHY!!!!

Noneya Bizness
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So sick of that nonsensical word lol

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If you believe only men have to change and that all gender inequality in society is derived from male fault than you are a sexist as that is an impossibility based upon the LAW of probability. I bet you do not see anything wrong with the fact that boys scores in reading and writing have plummeted to lower levels than girls scores in math and science ever lagged behind boys even though the difference in scores in those fields in the early 90’s apparently constituted an emergency that required a complete overhaul of our education system that did not involve treating the girls the same as the boys but instead ignoring boys as they should be fine do to the imaginary benefit of a penis apparently magicaly giving you an advantage in learning in some inexicable narnian way in a supposed “patriarchy”. Now their scores have continualy plumeted their graduation rates have significantly dropped as well as college attendance rates as everything was restructured not in the interest of actualy equality but in giving girls an advantage to make up for a non-existant at least statisticaly advantage in education. But none of this matters as even if you admit to these injustices you will just blame it on the “patriarchy” boogy man as with all fake feminists I suspect you just want to blame men for everything wrong in society even though that is a statistical impossibility.

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“men favor youth and a bust/waist/hip ratio that implies good mothering
genes in a mate (despite having no intention of becoming a co-parent)”

What does short term life intent have to do with inbuilt biological preference? Think through what you say before it comes out, just a little..

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I did think it through, more than a little*. In fact, I approved of the great amount of thinking it through that the many great minds thought through before I repeated what I said. Also, you might want to allow yourself to actually be in touch with your own “in-built biological preference”, as that preference was neither inbuilt nor likely even yours… you, as a westerner, were spoonfed the preferences you have been taught to call “inbuilt” and “biological”.

* Perhaps you might try it before suggesting it?

On another note, what do you think of Roosh’s living arrangements, you know, actually living the dream of playing videogames all day and residing in his mother’s basement? I’m torn about it myself. The word “Schadenfreude” has been used to death on his unfortunate situation, so I can’t even use that word. I really thought that after Reaxxion lost him so much money, he’d off himself, but that would have made the AVfMers too happy. Let’s hope his spite and desire for revenge will stop him from offing himself after today’s news about his “real” life.

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” I approved of the great amount of thinking it through that the many great minds thought through before I repeated what I said”

HINT: That’s not thinking. That’s copying. Ironic, given the quote I read earlier from this website you hate: “women can do anything men can..after men show them how”. Not something I agree with in the general case (I know some wondrously inventive women), but something that is statistically somewhat accurate, since male intelligence is more variant than women. This means there are more very stupid males…and more very smart ones, whereas women are more clustered around the average. (statistically, of course there are exceptions)

Anyway, I don’t mean to be particularly mean to you, you have your reasons for being so misled, as do some of the guys here, but I’d suggest you actually think through your statement this time…

As a little more of a hint: WHY is it irrelevant to point out your assumption (incorrect in a lot of cases) that desire to co-parent is related to attractiveness? Even babies have been tested to see what they find attractive (interesting might be a better description) and, coincidence of coincidence, it matches mainstream assumptions.
There will be some epi-genetic swing: Male (straight) children of good times will prefer partners successful in good times: not unhealthily overweight, good hip to bust ratio, long hair showing long healthy history, medium breasts etc. Children of poorer societies/families at risk of starvation will tend to prefer larger, more “well stocked” women, larger breasts (as reserves for feeding babies) etc. BUT, in general, no, we are not “told” what to be attracted to. I have very little choice in the matter, trust me, there have been some (personality wise) lovely women I’ve met along the way who, unfortunately, were just not attractive to me, despite trying (when younger).

All my guy friends have slightly different (sometimes very different) preferences for partners, and no, we are not afraid to state that due to some “patriarchy” or whatever nonsense you think rules our heads. It is as inbuilt as it is for a gay person to prefer their own sex, etc.

“you, as a westerner, were spoonfed the preferences you have been taught to call “inbuilt” and “biological”.”

Not sure what you do, but I think for myself, and this is just plain incorrect smile

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“”you, as a westerner, were spoonfed the preferences you have been taught to call “inbuilt” and “biological”.”

Not sure what you do, but I think for myself, and this is just plain incorrect :)”

Aaaaand you’ve been spoonfed as a westerner to believe with all of your indoctrinated heart that all of your thoughts and opinions are all yours and not crafted by the media at every turn.

I’ve lived in too many countries, hosted too many internationals, and seen too many beauty/taste concepts abhorrent-to-Americans to believe as you believe. It’s OK though, I am not trying to unindoctrinate you at all. It’s probably best for all that you remain the way you are.

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My god, the ego! How do fit through the door of your house with a head that big?
Funny..I’m not American, and I hold very few beliefs that haven’t come from examining my original society given ones for myself, and, almost universally, changing them to ones that make sense to me.

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“what do you think of Roosh’s living arrangements, you know, actually
living the dream of playing videogames all day and residing in his
mother’s basement?”

“his spite and desire for revenge…” “today’s news about his “real” life.”

Hmm
Spite? Desire for revenge? You might want to look up those words in a dictionary, you might find yourself…

I think RooshV is an extremely insightful guy, who, unfortunately, has been very jaded by modern females, and society in general (I agree with his descriptions of society in general, but I don’t tend to agree with his proposed solutions, which tend to amount to doing the same dodgy things back to those doing the dodgy things to him/”us” in the first place. Understandable..but not really helpful. I’d prefer to grow, and aim for NO dodgy behavior..but then perhaps I’m just a bit blessed in my own life, so that still seems possible to me)

I think you should read his article here, and tell me that it isn’t an exact description of this situation?

What Is A Social Justice Warrior (SJW)?

As to “living” in his “mums basement”:
– wouldn’t that be his FAMILY home, you know, where his (unimportant because he’s not female?) DAD lives/lived too?
– who said he’s LIVING there, he’s temporarily escaping violent crazy death threats from vile, revenge obsessed feminist morons, who are invading his privacy in his own home, that never bothered to read his page to understand that he does not support rape at all, he just see’s through the fantasy land based abuse of men and women who don’t fit feminist stereotypes, and has an interesting..if misguided solution.

I actually partially agree with him about his proposal…that it would likely work to reduce rape, but I don’t agree it is morally acceptable/a good idea (and there are far better solutions, like getting rid of the hypocritical moronic feminist crap that tells women to behave this way, WITHOUT thinking through consequences, in the first place. I also happen to have no issue with female sexual freedom, which Roosh seems to not like (strange as a pua, but perhaps, unlike your assumptions, he actually DOES want a “good” woman to settle down with, he just doesn’t feel they exist anymore), but, like him, I think it ridiculous to divorce action from consequence. We should all be free to skydive if we want, but we don’t get to blame the ground, nor the innocent bystanders, when our parachute doesn’t open)

Basically, I think he has conflated, like feminists, two separate issues: Rape is never ok, and a rapist is the sole responsible party, morally, for a rape, BUT; common female behaviors leading up to rape are also, SEPARATELY, quite dangerous, unethical in and of themselves (though not quite to the level of rape), and often actually fraudulent/deceptive/breach of contract, civil matters that would require (separate) civil penalties to curb
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Hmm, a whole lotta words, bereft of an actual response. If we kept any alcohol in the house I’d have had to down a shot in honor of that predictably calorie-laden, nutrition-free reply of yours.

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You’re funny smile not funny haha, funny like; “what’s that funny smell…is there something rotting in here?”
Yes…my reply was totally information free, whereas your response about not having an attention span more than a goldfish (explains a lot) was full of information.

Actually, you are right, it was useful. Well done. You are a shining example of a sjw, thank you for being informative to the rest of the audience here as an example of how not to learn anything.

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You do realize, that it was the “patriarchy ” that granted you the rights and privileges ( I’m sorry, equality) that you have today. If not for the funding of male power elite, where would you feminists be?

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Oddly the mostly black jurors that acquitted OJ Simpson of murdering his miscegenating wife were un sympathetic to her (she stole a Black man) and easily swayed by the false accusations of police planting evidence. I the fullness of time the evidence has been proved correct. The defence totally relied on the fact that Black jurors don’t convict blacks. If you want to see racial bias in action just look at Black juries.

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Kind of like the all white juries back in the good ole Klan days who set white lynchers free, huh?

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It took me a while to get what you meant by ‘Xtian’. There’s no shame in saying Christian.

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Yes, there is.

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Your ideals of equality you hold so highly are the product of Christian societies, but don’t let facts get in the way of your stunted beliefs.

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Oh, I didn’t know I held any particular ideals of equality. Thanks for informing the lady of what ideals she apparently holds. Now maybe I’ll just go out into the world and start acting upon those ideals you inform me of having. Now that secularism is the new “religion”, I’ll be safe to do so at least!

But anyway, more good things came from the abolishment of Xtian societies than ever came from those stunted-belief Xtians’ societies.

Crusades, anyone? Howsabout a nice witch-burning then?

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It’s clear from your posts what your ideals are.

It’s also clear from your posts that you’re historically illiterate.

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False and false.

But here’s to hoping that your opinions keep you as warm at night as your farts. But your opinions will always smell worse.

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That doesn’t make any sense and isn’t even remotely funny or insulting.

You ARE historically illiterate, because you have no idea how Western ideals have been shaped by Christianity.

You are also one of those dreadful shouty atheists, who has an axe to grind because you think your belief system is better than someone else’s.

Get the fuck back in the kitchen where you belong.

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I’ll be in my kitchen around 7 p.m., right about the time dinner is served. Until then, my break room will have to suffice.

If you’re a superstitionist, then you lack the grounds to accuse others of believing they have a superior belief system. You are superstitious. You believe in the boogeyman. Yes, Western ideals have been [miserably] shaped by your laughable superstitions, and to what end? The post office doesn’t deliver mail on Sundays, oooooooooooh, Holy. (Forget the fact that Sunday isn’t the Sabbath!)

You’re an angry idiot, something that is quite congruent with being a [white] male superstitionist. Rage all you want, your ludicrous belief systems(s) will be laughed at in the annals of history, just like the Earth’s being flat, and the Sun revolving around Earth.

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You think I’m a Christian? I’m definitely not superstitious, and not a Christian, not an atheist. Not remotely angry either. Why should mail be delivered on a Sunday? People deserve time off.

I recognise the frailness of the human condition, humans crave belief systems. You believe there is no God, that’s OK, but it’s not OK when you start denigrating other people’s belief systems. You do that because you think your belief system is better, if you didn’t you would live and let live.

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Uh, yeah. Thanks for the denigrating of others’ belief systems out of one side of your mouth while pretending to think that’s bad out of the other side of your mouth.

You might want to look into your personal posting history if you don’t think that’s what a good 90% of your posts very specifically consist of.

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This is about your post, which showed your lack of knowledge about some basic aspects of Western culture, aspects that you rely heavily on such as the freedom to express yourself as you’re doing now.

Don’t get upset when someone replies to your expression, deal with it like an adult.

You haven’t debated me at all, you have thrown immature insults around and made yourself look stupid.

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Ah, the “deal with it like an adult!!!11!” retort, to imply that I have ever done otherwise. That really only fools this site’s dudebros, and not anyone else. I guess it is an upgrade from your usual “get the fuck back in the kitchen where you belong” though.

And then you accuse me in your final paragraph of what you have consistently been guilty of yourself. No wonder you refuse to “debate” — again, your posting history illustrates this beautifully. The reason you don’t debate is likely because you don’t know how.

Why don’t you just look down into your sweatpants and count how many inches you’ve got.

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I count one.

The kitchen is where a woman can truly show her worth.

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Hey, some people are stuck in the past; they can’t be “upgraded” to be modern like the rest of the world. That is completely your right to look and act like a human VCR.

I wouldn’t take away your right to say stupid things. In fact, it’s really great when you trip up and say things like “woman” and “kitchen” in the same sentence, as it shows what a dinosaur you are. Dinosaurs were fun and all when they reigned, but they all ended up dead and in the muck right where their usefulness ended 😏

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OK Carrie

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Are you that Tennessee woman who credited Trump and god for Obama care?

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*I* am not that idiot, no. But I chose her face for my Disqus avatar. If you can bare to look closely enough, you’ll see I super-imposed her name (Charla McComic) across her face.

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Which Christianity are you discussing? The entire Abolitionist movement was Evangelical Christian first in England and then the US.

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Witch burning was mostly a Protestant custom. Catholics, mostly Spanish, tended to reserve burning for heretics. The contrast between Protestant Germanies and Catholic Spain is instructive. Bavarians were an exception in that they did have witch-hunts, even though they were more Catholic than the Spaniards (believe it or not).

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[…] (believe it or not)

My first university degree (before I got my head on straight) was in Christianity and Comparative Religions, so yeah, I believe it.

Superstitions make people do the worst things, and make them feel so righteous about doing them.

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And yet, the paradox that the Abolistionist movement clearly was inspired by Evangelical Christianity – there’s too much documentation on the subject to doubt it. The same people, in the same spirit, were at the forefront of some of the best Reform movements in 19th century America, not excepting even the franchise for women.

It was Williams Jennings Bryan who argued that women ought to vote not because they were men’s equals, but because of their unique role influencing morals, that “The hand that rocks the cradle should guide the nation”. In the US alone, for the first time, Christianity ceased to be a state monopoly, an establishment no more. Like most things human, productive of good and evil, making men stronger for good and evil.
See how the same religious impulse contributed to horrible blunders. The Garissonites, the first major organized group in the US that systematically supported Abolitionism, wanted the Southern States expelled as an ‘unclean’ thing. Had they their way, We would have had no Civil Wark, no one our of 30 Americans dead, but we would have had slavery decades beyond 1865. An equal and opposite error was the support first for servile insurrection, financed by the New England circle around Henry Beecher, and then, on both sides, the fighting of the war as a religious crusade. After Lincoln’s murder, the same zeal was tranformed into a corrupt system of voter gerrymandering intended to give the Republican party a monopoly on power and government wealth. The reaction, when it came, was furious; it took us nearly a century to fix that.

The same religious mania droves the campaign for National Prohibition, for censorship of the US Mail, books, and press, in support of ‘moral’ behavior, of ‘Keeping the Puritans Pure’ as Mencken so famously put it. Only with the Depression was this malevolent form of Religion, a kind of Christianism, put down and out.

Religion is an intellectual construct, a tool, which can and will often be used badly. At it best, it has promoted the best in the human race. At its worst, it was as Aristotle warned: the worst is the best, corrupted.

The Women’s movement, corrupted, has given us Feminism – and that is our current worst. To fight it is the obligation of every American.

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The abolishment of religion in such countries as Russia, China, Vietnam, and Cuba, worked out well. Didn’t it?. Just ask the 100 million victims.

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Why?

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Ah. Militant atheist (I’m an atheist myself but militant atheists like you are disgusting arrogant haters). Militant feminist. What I missing? Militant SJW? Militant left-wing partisan?
Lady you are an extremist of the worst sort.

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You said: “This is also why Black men get life in prison while the white criminal on trial for an identical crime across the courthouse will get time served or a commuted sentence.”

Not true. Liberal/leftist/Feminist misinformation and gullibility in fact.

White men (and women) actually receive slightly higher sentences than Black men for the same crime if they have the equivalent prior criminal record.

Black me get higher sentences because they are far far more likely to be tried with repeat offences on their record, about 10 times more likely. That includes crimes such as manslaughter and murder where the clearance rate is so high it isn’t possible to claim that the prior convictions were themselves the result of racial bias.

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“Black men get higher sentences because they are far, far more likely to tried with repeat offences…”

Well, a jury is incapable of charging for “future crime” or “thought crime”. Sounds like an awesome idea for a dystopian futuristic movie though. I wonder if Tom Cruise is available.

Also, I cannot find one source (not even one claiming that white men get anything but much lower sentencing than Blacks of the identical crime/charge.

But your “mental theory” of why Blacks get higher sentences may also explain why fathers get lower custody than women, because the judges deciding custody are using “futuristic judgment” of how the fathers will act (totally kidding and making fun of your theory). Besides in the small percentage of cases where custody is actually fought over in court, fathers win primary custody moreso than mothers do. The whole “gynocentric courts give children to mothers all the time and it’s unfair to fathers who wanted the custody” BS is just that — BS.

Sounds like you get your info from white powwuh websites, which are, um, notoriously biased. But hey, so is this website so I won’t pretend to act surprised.

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For the ALL crime categories in the USA including embezzlement (except securities fraud) Blacks have 8-13 times the crime rate of non Hispanic Whites. The authorities and liberal media go to lengths to downplay and hide this but the data is there.

Thus a for a far higher proportion of their convictions Blacks will find themselves before a judge who will of course consult their prior criminal convictions record in handing down a sentence. I’m assuming you are intelligent and that the comments about future crimes are sarcastic rather than retarded. smile

Bizzarly but unsurprisingly the US Dept of Justice categorizes Hispanics as White when they commit a crime but as a separate category when they are a victim. Since Hispanics commit crime at 3-4 times the White rate it lumping them together with Whites makes the Black population only seem about 3 times more crime prone than the White population rather than 10 or so. Many of these “Hispanics” are so Sth American Indian looking that they could have been caste for roles in Apocolypto.

The FBI’s victims of crime survey, which was developed among other things to detect racial bias crimes, however confirms that both Black, White and Hispanic victims point to Blacks as the disproportionate cause of crime against them.

One excuse offered by liberal desperates is that the high Black crime rate is a result of bias in policing or the fact that poor Trayboon is smoking weed or freebasing on the streets rather than in his White millionaire jocks fathers snooker den and is thus more likely to be caught. Firstly the victim of crimes survey scuttles that idea and secondly when it comes to serious forms of crime such as murder, homicide, assault, even sexual assault where the clearance rates are so high that we can state with absolute certainty that the Black population has ten times the Homicide rate of the White it doesn’t seem likely. If the White murder rate was as high as the Black there would be hundreds of thousands of White people missing.

The politically correct term for habitual criminal behaviour is recidivism and you can google that.

“Sounds like you get your info from white powwuh websites, which are, um, notoriously biased. But hey, so is this website so I won’t pretend to act surprised.”

Sounds like you don’t have any facts and have to speculate. My sources are the US Dept of Justice and the FBI. Thje ever honest Obongo administration stopped keeping reliable information since 2013 but the records are still there.

The Black/White IQ gap is as constant as Avogardo’s number and might be one explanation. The Black White HIV and crime rate is just as constant.

This sounds like just an abstraction, living in a liberal matrix means that you have ready answers to prevent any thought crime. Sadly there are real people being murdered and suffering out there. The homicide rate in Mandela’s Sth Africa has gone from under 1000/year to nearly 30,000 with many victims suffering unspeakable brutality.

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Trayboon and Obongo, eh? Yep, white powwah sites it is.

Yet if a woman were to make similarly truthful statements against men’s natural criminality, she’d be called a man-hating misandrist.

Irony, thy name is Privilege.

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I do have White privilege. It’s a result of evolution and the higher than global average IQ I inherited from my parents.
Do you concede the reason that Blacks in the USA get longer sentences than Whites in the USA is that the Blacks are being sentenced for 2nd, 3rd or 4th offenses whereas the White is more likely to be on a youthful first offense. Perhaps you’d like to have Whites sentenced more harshly to even out the average?
The fact is that Whites have been fair and the criminal justice system has been fair. We are not victimising Blacks. Blacks are murdering each other at an alarming rate, it isn’t White folks or police doing it.
Please don’t go into a SJW circular argument.

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“Do you concede the reason that Blacks in the USA get longer sentences than Whites in the USA is that the Blacks are being sentenced for 2nd, 3rd or 4th offenses whereas the White is more likely to be on a youthful first offense.”[sic]

Nope. Facts disprove your opinions:
http://amptoons.com/blog/2006/09/12/prison-sentencing-study-whites-women-non-poor-and-us-citizens-are-given-lighter-sentences/

Please note that David Mustard compared apples to apples, as they say, when comparing the sentencing of offenders regarding their first criminal charge, second, etc. He did not compare loads of “white first-time offenders” to loads of “Black repeat offenders”.

Say what you like, but you’re incorrect. Facts bear this out.

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Mustards report, or at least the blog you linked to, simply ignores the much higher recidivism rates of Blacks and the effect that has to have on sentencing. It carries on about harsher sentencing not taking into account recidivism. I bet even if taken into account in Mustards actual report the difference will be insignificant ie tiny. This is another case of a “SJW” making absurd claims which reinforce SJW shibboleths but are achieved simply by ignoring crucial but contradictory facts. It also seems to ignores the possibility that for similar categories of crime the crime is on the harsher more serious end of the scale and that just maybe the White and Asian kids are showing more contrition. Either way the judges are correct, White recidivism rates are lower whichever way you look at it.

There is one way around this. The British in the 18th century had the death sentence for around 220 crimes. The bloody code. Execute them and take the psychopaths both Black and White out of the gene pool. The recidivism rate will be the same then.

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If you mean wrong, because it’s only 86 percent of the time (as opposed to 100); I suppose you’re right. The only BS anyone is spouting is you.

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Feminism has out lived its “usefulness”. Women have equal rights…they just want more. More control, more power, etc…

You see this obvious example with our justice system. It’s more like payback time now versus actual equality.

We’ve gone from far right (no equal rights for women) to far left (pandering to women at every turn). It fucking ridiculous.

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As far as I see it, modern feminism is the equivalent to the “male chauvinism” that they complain about. It’s a culture shift.

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Agree. If a man was too “macho” back when…he was shouted down. A woman doing it, today, is powerful “you go girl” shit.

Equality? Sounds more like power and control to me.

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Feminism is a classic instance of how wars for equal rights become wars on all rights.

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That is not a historically unique viewpoint.

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Indeed, one of the consequences of the Civil War was a reduction in individual liberty, and an increasingly aggressive foreign policy, culminating in the Spanish-American and Philippine-American wars of the 1898-1900. “Oppressive at home, aggressive abroad”.. You can read Henry Sumner Maine’s “The Conquest of the United States by Spain” and Mark Twain’s “Those who sit in Darkness”. We can also document, with some confidence, that the first use of the Women’s vote is the support of Prohibition and all manner of mischievous “Anti-Vice” societies.

But even this is more than just. Slaves were never free until after 1865. Men were free until 1965, and were increasingly attacked by Feminism thereafter. The comparison between the two conditions is an apples/oranges fallacy.

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Men haven’t been attacked by feminism, unless you equate rape with men, violence with men, bigotry with men, and a slew of other atrocious behaviors with men.

I fully admit that when one group had sole access to all the rights, and then slowly but surely other people were allowed access to one, then two, then three of those rights, it looked like “men’s rights” were being plundered. I never worked at a nursery, but I can imagine if one stinking baby had all of the toys and all the other babies had none, then someone fair comes along and says that the others should be allowed to play with the same toys the first undeserving baby was always allowed to play with, then that first baby is going to feel attacked, attacked, I tell you!comment image comment image

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You raise several issues here. Let me start with what I feel is the top one. Indeed, Feminists don’t hate men – they hate women. It is the Communists who have been greatest murders of workers and peasants – tens of millions. To be sure, they killed a few hundred thousand private property owners – and that’s all they could kill: their were jut not that many around. If you haven’t the time to read all three volumes of Solzhenitsyn’s “Gulag Archipelago”. Feminism is indeed one of Marxsim-Leninism’s bastards, much like Marxism itself was one of Voltaire’s. No amount of economic misfortune can justify experimenting with the human race, and killing all those who will not fit some ideological mold. McKinnon, Friedan, Firestone, Simone de Beauvoir – all self proclaimed Marxists. But its worse than that.

Feminism has become a tool of Corporate control. It used women to beat down wages and working conditions, to create a compliant and submissive work force, to femnize behavior so that people may be more easily made into robotniks. The unintended consequences of actions – what Hehgel called the cunning of history – is evident here. The ideal world for women now is o ne without risk, of complete safety – which means it is a world with no opportunity, where there is no longer any rights, but merely administrative regulation.

Now, as to your argument about men being children who had ‘all the toys’. Ownership of rights is not a function of who has how many – it is a function of what rights they have, man qua man. There are not subject to some kind of social accounting, nor is it true that men’s good fortune is the cause of women’s bad fortune. What women repeatedly demonstrated in the years of the Women’s movement is their desire for their unique roles as wives and mothers to be protected. They wanted labor laws that gave them extra protection. They wanted exemptions from the draft and jury duty, so that they could attend to the duty that they did best.

Perhaps you will reject the contention that Feminism seeks power over women, on basis that even by the broadest definition, Feminists are a tiny faction of the total female population – how could they possibly have the power I ascribe to them? And, if they were indeed abusive and tyrannical as I claim, why have women rejected their authority? Well, I first not that being a minority, vanguard party didnt’t cramp Lenin, Mussolini, or Adolf. Second, Feminism is a useful idiocy, enabling the emergence of an omnipotent state that gorws by subordinating all power to itself. It is no accident that Feminist theorists have urged the destruction of romantic love, or traditional marriage, and of religious institutions, and private associations generally, as these are sources of independent power, power independent of the State. For Feminism, the State is their new Idol, and they wish to replace traditional Judeo-Christian religions with worship of it.

I charge Feminism with being the new Totalitarians And, they are guilty as charged.

We are living through the Brezhnev years of Feminism. It proably has another generation to run. Then, like the USSR, it will go bankrupt and implode. Admittedly, we cannot be certain. The war against the Soviets was a nearer run thing than many cared to admit. Perhaps indeed the Feminist ideology will prevail for some time more to come. But I refuse to believe the future is a picture of the human race with a high heel stamped on to it.

I am done.
Here I stand.
I can do no other.

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When I was in college, my friends and I volunteered to help feed the homeless. It wasn’t to stand behind a buffet service and ladle slop onto trays, but rather to “trick” paranoid schizophrenics into eating food outside of the soup kitchens, as there are a great many homeless men whose paranoid schizophrenia prevented them from stepping foot into places created to feed the homeless. They believed that the stations existed to poison the men, or to implant government-controlled microphagic devices to eat them from the inside out, and so on.

One nearby park was known to ‘house’ quite a few such men, so a few of us would pack some nutritious lunches into brown bags, go to a park bench during lunch hour, and laugh and talk loud to draw attention to ourselves. Once we’d gotten their attention, one of us would set off our pager and exclaim, “Oh, no, they need us back at the office! Darn, just grab your purses and leave your lunches and we’ll eat at work. Let the park employees throw our food out, we don’t have time”.

Without fail, after we pretended to dash off to our car, they would slowly saunter over to where we’d left the lunch bags, they’d peer to the left and right while slowwwwwly slipping the food into their knapsacks and sauntering off. This was the way we devised to trick them into believing that the food was safe to eat and not some government conspiracy to trick them into becoming “robotniks”.

Sometimes some of us would actually meet there and really eat. A couple of the men worked up the nerve to talk to us. Mind you, they WERE UNWASHED, UNMEDICATED PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENICS, with all that comes along with that. They rambled about absurd conspiracies and how they were coming to an end… well, I am having unpleasant flashbacks about getting caught in conversations with them all these years later, but your rambling conspiracy theory made me shudder, as it made me recall how absolutely devoted a.f. those homeless fellows were to their bizarro delusions. When we’d suggest that perhaps what the voices were telling them wasn’t actually real, they would deftly go into a long, emphatic defense of their positions and that sane people were the real insane people, while people who ate out of the trash and drank hard liquor all day were the actual real sane ones who knew real from fake.

So I am going to gracefully do what I really, really, really tried to do back then, and disengage from further whackjobbery debates from people who probably do believe what they claim — against all reality — to believe. BYE!

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Anyone who disagrees with her is crazy, the goto response of all degenerate vulgar marxists of the Feminist flavor.

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Oh, boy. Did you just respond to me, while referring to me in the THIRD PERSON? A person with a non-affected brain replies to someone as “you”, or by his/her name.

THAT is more damning of schizophrenic evidence than your disjointed, rambling delusions. If you think that is a “degenerate vulgar flavor”, I suggest looking into advanced signs of schizophrenia to see them for yourself. Your name-calling is also a reliance of someone afflicted with your particular psychiatric “flavor”. Again, do NOT rely on my words — go research your identifying behavior for yourself.

I don’t care that you happen to disagree with me or with facts. Disagreeing with me or with facts doesn’t affect my life or reality in the least.

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Not only do Feminists believe the personal is political, they are even attempting to politicize grammar. Orwell’s prescience in prediction Newspeak is more impressive every year. The combination of psychobabble and Communist ideology is a heady brew, no doubt, and has become more popular than Cosmopolitans or Stoly Martinis among what used to be the fair sex. A strange brew, and a toxic intellectual cocktail. There was a time, now very far away, that the bien-pensant would attempt to silence independent thinkers with the charge of Heresy. Feminism, being a politically chilliastic movement, is prone to this. ‘Not only are you evil,but crazy too’.

Well, Tu Quoque.

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Right. You get your rights if you agree with them, if not then you don’t have any rights.

Feminism (today anyways) is about control (not equality or rights). It’s about women gaining control (they could care about equality once they have control).

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Agreed, but I suggest that the control Feminists desire most is not over men, but over Women. Given the perverse incentives against marriage, men ccan and will walk away. For all but the vanguard elite, what of the fate of women then? A lesser life, lacking in love, and without hope.

Just as women helped overthrow Prohibition after have been its principal instigators, so too it will be with Feminist. Sadly,, this will happen only as a result of, and after, millions of women’s lives have been blighted by this intolerant, Procrustean ideology. That’s human History for you, one damn thing after another.

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It was never about equality in the first place.

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That’s why girls like you always die alone, or with other whores…enjoy the child support while if lasts, fuck another 10 guys who all end up leaving you…then die alone and miserable…bitch

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Dude, you need to be sedated. Maybe no girls want you because you’re incapable of a civilized conversation. America’s going down the drain.

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Who are you to profess knowledge of the lives of any of us? Most players today were the most chivalrous of men who were played by one too many women. Personally I still feel love for every girl I’ve been in a relationship with, I treated them all like queens till I noticed that all my queens preferred sorry excuses for men who treated them like crap. Adapt or die is the law of nature Ms Shitty Personality. I love how much respect your username commands btw.

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First of all, “players” and “chivalrous” should not even exist in the same sentence.

Secondly, are you not even going to take a little bit of responsibility? I promise you: no girl in the history of vaginas has ever dumped a guy for being “too nice.” Maybe you were too clingy. Maybe you lived in your mother’s basement, never brushed your teeth, and ate only frozen SpaghettiOs. Maybe your personalities just didn’t match, or you didn’t sync up sexually. There are a million other reasons these girls could’ve left you, and being “too nice” most certainly is not on the list.

You can’t blame all of womankind for your failed relationships. As much as it sucks to think about it, it takes two to tango, and you’re the common denominator in these relationships. As my father used to say: “Whenever you think everyone else is the problem, it’s probably you.” Food for thought.

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“I promise you: no girl in the history of vagina’s has ever dumped a guy for being “too nice.”

I get labeled an asshole more than any guy I know and even I know that statement is bullshit. Your promise is worth exactly zero.

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whoa whoa, yes there have been its even on youtube and google lol. Women do leave guys for being too nice. Im nt nice to say the least im the class clown and the guy who cares more about partying than anything else in the world but ive seen friends and family get the shaft just for providing and treating their woman like goddess which i have no idea why they would treat them like that. I grew up with 4 women in my house and i learned to never let them too close and never ever ever trust a woman, i learned this watching my mom, stepmom, sisters and cousins women are fucking crazy i just like my fwb arrangement its good and no one gets hurt

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“I promise you: no girl in the history of vaginas has ever dumped a guy for being too nice.” WHAT?! There is some truth to that statement, though. Most guys who are “too nice” never even get to first base.

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What in the name of Lucifer’s balls are you smoking?

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Nice guys (but NOT Nice Guys™!) get married, stay married the longest, and have the happiest marriages — according to wives. And they’re the ones who should know!

It comes down to the difference between nice guys and “Nice Guys™”. Authentically good, decent humans could never entertain the vile, bitter hatred seen in the Manosphere. Because they are nice. But “Nice Guys™” are sacks of evil shit, lol, just looking for an excuse to embrace his sack-of-evil-shittedness.

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Most players today were the most chivalrous of men who were played by one too many women.

Blunt, truthful, and well-written. i’m saving that quote, and the plebeian who said “First of all, “players” and “chivalrous” should not even exist in the same sentence.” made me chuckle.

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Bullshit. Women only go that route (independent provider men) after they’ve hit the wall and they are finished riding the carousel (and even then some jump back on it).

You don’t know how many times I’ve heard of a situation where a guy (with a decent income, education, looks, etc..) was very good to a woman only to get thrown to the side for someone who “excited” her…and then usually beat on her, verbally abused her and or dumped her.

Women are emotional and they gravitate towards someone who makes them “feel”. The only compromise is when they are too old and that attention for them is subsides (or it’s time to suck it up and find a good provider).

Feminism, today, has been taken over by a radical group of women who believe in getting even, getting power (not equality). I don’t see a march on D.C. to get the nation to change the way a man gets treated in court (i.e. divorce, child support, etc…). A man in court with a woman loses every time (even when the woman is a complete waste of space.

Woman, today, are for equality (for some things)….the rest of it is just fine (as long as they benefit).

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Where do you hide during the day? I never see women out, I never see women at the gym. There are no women at work, and the bar is always a sausage fest. Also, women don’t date based only on looks, if they did, I would have a lot more interested dates. Women date based on looks, personality, status, intellect, vehicle, prestige, wit, and money.
Men date based on looks, intellect, then personality. I could make the argument that women are more shallow, because they are much more choosy.

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Agreed, I guess I am in the good looking department too. (Based on what past dates have told me.) but they mean little unless your supermodel good looking.

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1 letter from tampax

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You’re full of shit. If women wanted nice and classy guys, this site simply wouldn’t exist. Nice guys turn into players or total dickheads after they’ve been fucked over. Fucked over for following the advice that women give them. Women only give advice because they need a large pool of enablers to get the validation they so crave. I was a nice guy once…..until I got exploited. The fact that women now flock to me is proof positive that you are a liar.

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This is the white elephant in the room that society does not want to talk about at all. Provider men (good men) who do everything right: provide a good home, good life, good to their kids, etc, etc…and are left holding the bag in the end.

I recently watched a movie (The Judge) with a good example (scene at the very beginning of the movie).

Robert Downey Jr.’s character (plays a lawyer) married to a woman who seems to have everything but she is not “happy”…..she actually cheated on him (so divorce is on the way).

Good man who is a lawyer (provides the big house, cars, has a daughter…has everything). But she still is “unhappy”.

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I guess you didn’t realize that you are basing your bigotry on movies — which is something a lot of you do actually, since “reality” does not match film fiction.

I bet no one here uses that same lazy, fallacious logic after watching The Accused, The Seasoning House, or Axed though.

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Nope…basing it on reality. Women don’t want to hear the truth. They’ll gladly rationalize why things went south (and usually not share in the blame). I realize the man bears some responsibility…I’m still waiting to hear the woman take her share.

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“And yes I get some”

from hot guys who don’t believe any dumb shit about feminism, we know

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women who are just looking to get laid are like this yes but women who are choosing a husband do not want this kind of guy. It all depends on what your looking for from both sides. I wonder Roosh – what if you have a few daughters – will you be advising them to do this?

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“women who are choosing a husband do not want this kind of guy”

My cousin Monica (25ys old) had a great guy, they had a kid and a few years later she left him for a reason no one knew…not even him. We later learned she simply was bored with him. he was a nice guy, hard working and provided everything they needed as a family.

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Thats pretty intersting to think about what you´ll think if you had daughters…

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whats new in it?…same old fucking story…i doubt roosh is true alpha…he is anti feminism….in the past he has been hurt many times by females.thats what i believe.

game is not about talking nonsense….its all about having sex with multiple women and then settle down with one.

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Any guy having trouble getting laid should read “Bang” — it’s a great book.

Typically, “nice guy” = insecure. More worried about himself and how he appears than how the women he approaches looks/acts/etc., it’s no wonder the nice guy has trouble connecting with them.

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Are you fucking serious? ‘Insecure’? Perhaps the ‘nice guy’ was raised with good morality and values, being taught that being polite and respectful was how we have to be in order to be respected. ‘Give respect in order to receive’…’treat her like a lady?’ ‘I DO believe in God, and I’ll quote a scripture I like: 1 Peter 2:11: ‘Beloved, I urge you as aliens and strangers to abstain from fleshly lusts which wage war against the soul’. Not in the cliché ‘your soul goes to hell’ soul reference, but your soul meaning your thoughts, emotion, who you are as a person. Selfish desires constantly gratified will cultivate selfishness within your soul, ‘destroying your soul.’ In this case, women and men alike become too selfish to sustain a relationship, which is why its dumb to consider such with a slutty woman or an alpha male, always feeding their selfish desires..
And in theory it would be the WOMAN who’d be insecure in that she wouldn’t be able to stomach a nice guy: being bored with said man would indicate that she seeks validation from the alpha, the rude, disrespectful, and sexually aggressive man.
This the world we currently live in. Everyone want to do for self. This Kardashian-fed Kulture is nauseating and I cant wait for it to go away.

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Solid post. There’s a lot of truth to this.

It’s always funny when I make a “sexist” joke and women get “offended”.

One girl said she “almost deleted me” out of her phone because I said “I don’t want a woman who watches sports, a woman’s only job when the big game is on is to shut up and get me another beer.”

“Almost” deleted me? Whatever, bitch…. shut up and go get me another beer…

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“almost” lol, why didn’t she delete you? was she afraid ? did seeing your name in the contact list cause painful trigger warnings?

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you must have a big problem with women. btw, it will not be funny if you experience to become a woman… esp a man like you with a very big pride about his gender. Don’t expect that women don’t have respect and pride for their gender, women we’re just like men who have pride & feelings for their gender.

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What’s interesting is that Mystery’s game theories were based on evolutionary theories, on mechanisms he believed existed when humans lived in caves. Here Roosh states that these same mechanisms are a recent adaption as an answer to feminism. 40 years can hardly be a period long enough to be part of evolution. What do you guys think, how important is real evolution, and how important is the feminism factor in this equation?

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How disgusting is it that Charlie Sheen has to pay $55,000 each to Brooke Mueller and Denise Richards as “child support”? Since when does it cost $55,000/month to raise two young kids in the US? SMFH

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Surely he could have found a team of lawyers for that amount to save his ass.

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lets go whole hog with it

whose ready to go and bash an upper cut rabbit punch to the closest growth of what passes for a hairy feminist nutsack, clubbing her man-chin as she writhes on the ground in ball-pain?

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Incoherent. Ergo totally in line with most other posts here.

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Roosh is pretty advanced and seems to have indirectly understood that humans have no freedom of action, they have only freedom of attitude and awareness and that also determines their actions and destiny.

That is truth. Do not do anything. Just start thinking that you are superior (without resentment). An you will get laid as much as you will.

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All unmarried men, who get laid at all, have or will reach the exact same conclusions as Roosh presents.

Men who marry when they are young, alpha or beta, aren’t exposed to the jungle enough to know what the score is. Same goes for unmarried men who don’t get laid.

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I just finished reading the letters of Ninon de Lenclos to the Marquis De Sevinge, and it’s the most solid and honest defense of game that I’ve ever read, and probably will ever read.

Ninon de Lenclos is probably one of the most logical women to ever comment on love, romance and seduction, and she’s probably the person most qualified to remove all your doubts of game if you’re a nice guy whose having a tough time trying to accept the amorality associated with the pursuit of game.

Here’s a link to the pdf, read it and see for yourself.
http://emc.elte.hu/~pinter/szoveg/Letters_of_Ninon1.pdf

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Feminism will never work because males are routinely capable of understanding and even sympathizing with the female condition, but the opposite is almost never true.

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Is that sarcasm? Or full-fledged himsterical schizophrenia?

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Roosh, been reading you for over a year and this is your best post to date in my opinion

40 years can hardly be a period long enough to be part of evolution. What do you guys think, how important is real evolution, and how important is the feminism factor in this equation?

“Game” isnt evolution but a response. Women like manly men. Game is a recopilation of behaviors that betas can emulate, or if they want to, become into, so they can attract and have women in the current free market.

In the past, women were raised captive, so betas could get women by providing and keeping them. Now women are free to handle themselves and free to chase alphas for as long as they wish before “settling down”, so betas have not many choices other than become alpha, emulate alpha, or die sexless (or get deviant, gay, or rape).

Then, in a society that bans / shames alphas and says being a man is a bad thing, beta / nice guys arent left with any good choices. For many “becoming alpha” is so distasteful they would rather die, and even “emulating alpha” sounds fucked up, and “wanting to get laid” sort of a crime comparable to rape.

So while freeing women, while its a good thing, you fucked up men. Thanks, feminism. Now that women can earn money and have their say, we should work on bringing men back.

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roosh thanks for just telling the truth!if u ask me women after 2003 in USA and Western Europe are ignorant and rude,and yes internet played a huge part.They complain that we dont make a move on them when they actually DONT FUCKING WANT IT.I stopted even talking to Scandinavian ,English ,Western European women and American women for years now,they are just MEN WITH VAGINAS in their behaviour.now im happy and together with a girl from Serbia,She treats me like am a man,and i treat her like a woman,simple as that.Only deal with women from South America,Eastern Europe and south East Asia,dont even bother to talk to the rest.90% of them are rude,ignorant stupid wanna be loved by the alpha male cunts.

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Chaco Anonymous

“women who are choosing a husband do not want this kind of guy”

Yes they do. They just aren’t self-aware enough to realize that they don’t actually want what they claim to want. Back when I wasted time being the nice, respectful guy that my single mom told me I should be, I’d have countless women that claimed they wanted to marry a nice, considerate guy turn around and bang an asshole the first night they met. Typically, they’d sit and pine for that asshole for ages.

I wanted to marry a good woman and have kids. Two divorces (and no alimony thankfully) later, I realize that’s a pipe dream. The only marriages I see that last are the ones where they met in high school or college. Honestly, it’s pretty obvious at this point that any woman over 30 that is unmarried probably only has herself to blame for it.

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“my single mom”

Gosh, just gosh. Thinking of mine chills me to the bone, with decades of humiliation and suppressed anger spiraling out from the darkest recesses of a soul a man may have, with an unstoppable tempest of pure, flaming, almost divine hatred.

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Roosh is correct, but some guys are still confused about what has changed and what hasn’t changed in the last sixty years.

The truth is that the social changes have UNLEASHED the innate desires of both men and women.

Woman have always been inclined to hypergamy. Men have always been inclined to promiscuity.

Remove the social sanctions against players and sluts and we get much closer to the chaotic “state of nature”.

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“Hypergamy” is “marrying up”, or making an improvement in partner. This is why men have traditionally dumped a wife after she has “given” him sires and assisted with his career, only to replace her with a younger, less invested woman. Then he might get a few more sires, a little more comfort and help in his life, then he replaces that wife. And that is where we got the word hypergamy.

That men have begun to use the word “hypergamy” to express some mythical actions that women supposedly take (but in reality don’t take) just makes the word’s meaning useless.

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Sorry, but for you to imply that women don’t “trade up” and that the word was only invented because of the scenario you provided is just plain a retarded thought process.

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Be sorry all you like, but even on men’s sites we hear all the time how a divorced woman is like a toxic load of radioactivity who has almost ZERO chance of re-marriage. After a divorce, a woman essentially becomes a pariah that NO man would want, especially if you take into account her constantly advancing age!

Hypergamy is specifically and historically used to denote a husband’s succession of new brides. Check into which gender gets re-married significantly more often than the other gender… hint dudes get re-married at a statistically significant higher rate than do their female counterparts!

So your attempt at trying to call someone else retarded turns out to be hilariously ironic.

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I’m not sure there’s anything good about feminism.

“I will concede that some aspects of feminism are just and proper. Women should have some say of how many children they want, if they want to work, and if they want to get married (and with whom).”

declining birthrates? now china and india rule the future

woman in the workplace? fewer marriages and families which leads to long term social decay and poverty (families preserve wealth more than any other institution)

and choosing whom to marry? that existed before feminism, hardly something that can be credited to feminism.

Feminism seems completely unsustainable in the long run. a disease that consumes more people than it creates

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^ that’s me ^

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I agree with Workshy Joe, but it has to be added that “in nature” is the converse situation to “in society”.

The suppression of all that feminism unleashed was crucial to maintaining society. Without it, society has broken down to be much less effective than it was previously. The downside to doing so so late is that we don’t have the benefit of natural population checks and balances that exist within nature.. So, now we have a broken society that is vastly overpopulated; therefore, social ills are excessively amplified.

If you want society, then you have to play by the man made rules that allows society to exist and thrive. If you want nature, then go move to an unpopulated island. People must make choices and sacrifices for society to function.

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hydrogonian, yeah, but was is society? I rather disappear than sacrifice myself for a society that counts me out

in other words, fuck society and its maintenance if Im not a part of it

and same goes for any society model that exploits a large group of humans: not worthy. reset and start over.

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@hydrogonian: I take your point, but I don’t think the genie is going back in the bottle.

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@yohami

It didn’t count you out. You just had a specific and very crucial role in it IF you wanted to be a part of perpetuating it by starting a family. Just like the man had a specific role, which he still does today. Men largely haven’t been excused from their traditional roles, only women have. Most men wouldn’t want to be excused from their roles.

Where feminists got it wrong is that they somehow got it in their heads that they wanted to also have a male role. They thought that men had it better.

Actually, the reality was that women had an elevated status over the men, but a status which also allowed families to survive and thrive. They didn’t have to work (a good thing – and an element of elevated status) and they stayed at home with the kids (great for the family and the kids, not to mention the labor force [less supply of labor meant cheaper goods and higher pay for the males – families could thrive on one income]).

Feminism not only fucked up families but fucked up the labor force economy. Things are twice as expensive now, in ratio to average single person incomes, and so two average incomes are required to raise a family instead of one. This puts increased pressure on everyone.

So, all of this is because women couldn’t be happy int heir societal role. They lacked the logic to see how crucial that role was. We didnt “count you out” then, but women are working hard at “counting themselves out” today by making themselves useless to males.

Actually, it was a small contingent of women who have now made it so that all women are taught that they aren’t really happy unless they forgo their traditional role. That lack of logic has doomed us all to lives that are much more stressful and uncertain than they were 50 years ago.

ps. Its a huge ego that thinks that thousands of years of societal evolution can be “reset” and started over because you have such a die hard belief in your (flawed) logic. Women weren’t exploited any more than men were exploited for their ability to provide. They are just roles that enabled society to thrive.

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As far as feminism screwing up the economy, not only it caused things to get more expensive, requiring two incomes to make ends meet. Men have been increasingly pushed out of the workforce, especially since the Great Recession of 2007-09. And in 40 percent of American households, the wife is the primary or sole breadwinner, while the husband is now “Mr. Mom”. Millennial men have it the worst in today’s economy because the system screwed them over to the point where they have been robbed of a future in this country. Notice how many ended up moving back in with their parents after college and can’t even get a job at Starbucks (yet for their female counterparts, job offers seem to fall into their laps very easily). I don’t see any light at the end of the tunnel for America because it’s already past the point where this country is screwed beyond repair.

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Laugh if you must but basically feminism is a “social shit test construct” implemented by our overlords to double the tax base of the serfs and empower the idiotic fem-males.An empowered single gal(consumer) living the SATC lifestyle is easier to manipulate than a married woman who have to answer to her husband.

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hydrogonian, bro, Im a man.

but yes, the old patriarchy counted women out from the men affairs, and men were deciding what those affairs were. I can see they felt they had their freedom cut because they were

But, yes too, men didnt have it “easier”. Having a job and a career aint freedom, its the quote you pay to survive. So many women now want to go back and have someone else pay their bills. The real world aint fun, per se.

But anyway, I give a shit rat ass about society. As a beta, when I was a beta, it did count me out. Now Im an alpha and it still counts me out. Society right now isnt a place for men. I only have a niche where Im king because I carved it, hard. Not every guy can do the same as I did, so a major change has to happen.

A society that pushes down a large number of people based of gender or color or whatever, I say fuck it. So +1 to feminism for getting rights for women, and -10 for putting men down.

The slave becomes the master just to repeat the same crimes.

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So true.

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Woman became more alpha, man had proportionally became more alpha. It´s an easy equation.

Before feminism:
Womans level of alphaness= 1

Mans level of alphaness= 3

in this case man only had to have an alphaness of 2 to get laid.

After feminism:

Womans alphaness increased to 4

Man alphaness stayed in 3 or maybe even decreased to 1,5 due to social pressure.

The thing is that as times passes and if woman become more and more like man, the level of alphaness required for a man will be absurd. Soon if this shit ain´t corrected nature will conform to social evolution.

But it´s my strong belief that mother nature will not forgive this errors. As western soeciety male is becoming weaker and feminine, others societies like China, etc, aren´t. When a war will come nature will have it´s say and torn this our Walt Disney World.

Bin Laden will soon be replaced by a Chinese.

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Amen

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The first step to not act like a wimp in front of women and agreeing to everything they say is to not act like a wimp in front of other men and not agree to every they say.

Sadly, this is what many do here, agree with whatever new post Roosh will make.

It’s cool that a guy opens a blog to share his experiences trying to game abroad and giving tips on this basis.

It starts to get annoying though when this guy starts to act like a Guru because a bunch of loosers (beta) take everything he says as God’s law.

It gets downright pathetic when this same guy thinks it entitles him to talk as if he was a sociologist.

Roosh, please, go and read a bit about feminism and gender studies. Gender differences are not natural and feminism is just women who got tired of having the shitty role. It’s perfectly possible to game and accept this fact.

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Unexpected, but not unappreciated. Nice post.

Offtopic, and possible post topic: Un- or under-employed middle class girls from decent colleges make for great targets. Doubly so if her finances don’t permit her to go out much or live on her own.

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rooks

Gender differences are not natural

Which ones? because I can list a lot of natural differences. Did you mean that not all cultural rules are natural? or…?

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What ceases to amaze me is how positively open feminists react to alpha ways, which should be their antithesis. Feminists strive to “break free from domineering men” but as soon as you actually dominate one she is absolute puddy in your hands.

If this doesn’t express the ridiculousness of female logic I dont know what does. To think they want to put a woman in the White House.

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Agree. I’ve experience these actions, twice, first hand. I had a good job, took care of myself, my own place and I was good to women. Nope, they were feeling the guy who didn’t have a job, smoked weed, and would treat them badly. That was in my 20s.

Today (and I’ve said this before) I use the bus driver approach. I have my shit together and you are on my schedule. If you don’t like it or you start to act up, then I’ll stop the bus and tell you to get off.

From that point on, it’s worked like a charm (I can’t get rid of some women). Women will say one thing but then their actions will show just the opposite.

Never take dating advice from a woman.

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THE central post on this website !

Respect to Roosh as he has understood todays relationship between men and women.

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Chad,

What feminism / women cant stand is a beta with power. A beta with the power to keep them trapped. If they get free, they go chase, capture, breed and keep the alpha man. Thats their wiring.

Feminism is a revolution against beta.

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yohami there’s a difference between gender and (biological)sex.

The biological “natural” differences between men and women are obviously our bodies and the fact that women get pregnant…. all the rest is just social constructions.

Roosh…. sorry to break it up to you, but I am a guy. And even worst, I am not by any means what you call beta nor am I frustrated and living a sex-less life thank you very much.

However your ad hominem attack, saying that I supposaly was a girl implies that you are unable to take criticism.

Have you actually ever read some serious scientific investigations about gender issues? Probably not, so keep to what you do best, giving travel and pick up tips, fits you better.

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Now on an invididual level I think you need to think you are superior to girls you interact with if you want to pick up.
It’s obviously a contradiction, personnally I don’t care so much and accept that yes, I’m full of contradictions. I am not going to change a history of male domination. However this doesn’t mean I need to go on clueless sexist rants to legitimize my behavior.

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rook

You just paraphrased yourself

all the rest is just social constructions.

what specifically? what are you talking about, really.

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“Feminists strive to “break free from domineering men” but as soon as you actually dominate one she is absolute puddy in your hands.

If this doesn’t express the ridiculousness of female logic I dont know what does.”

Actually, it’s quite ingenious if you think about it as it really is. Feminism tends to function as an elaborate shit test, getting men to reveal their true location on the alpha-beta-omega scale.

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@39

I’d give you that if that was what women intended by being feminists. If it really was a plot to weed out the weak then yes I’d give them credit for being ingenious, but thats not what they intend. Weeding out betas is just a natural side effect.

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@yohami.

I’m talking about all the typical behavior we tend to think as naturally masculine or feminine.
For examples the idea that men are by nature impulsive and ambitious while women are supposed to be introverted, passive and calm.

Research has shown that some of these can be true (obviously), but only because from the day we are born men and women are educated very differently. Not because men are naturally predisposed to be ambitious, and women to be soft and caring.
(And when I say research I mean actual scientific research, not some random thoughts on an internet blog )

The problem is that these “feminine” behaviors generally tend to give women the worst positions in society (worst jobs, little careers, much more domestic work then men etc.). Basic feminism comes from some women getting tired of this, who can blame them? Just like it’s understandable that american blacks fighted against segregation 50 years ago, jews fighting against anti-semitism etc.

But of course feminism is a complex and heterogeneous movement, and like all others, feminists are also full of their own contradictions.

The second problem is that as men, our environment and our education makes us more attracted to what is “feminine” in women. IE we are attracted to the behaviors that make women inferior to men in our societies.
And women are educated into liking what is “masculine” (alpha) in men, ie what makes them inferior too.

Personally I want to get laid as much as I can and with the women I find the hottest. This means that I have to put all this shit aside and think about my own fulfillment and happiness before issues of gender equality. I accept it.

But again, at least I think we at least should have the decency to not try and make things worst.

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The point of feminism was exactly too weed out betas.

Women wanted the freedom to be sluts in order to fuck whomever they want…..and they always want to fuck alphas ….many of whom are not providers of children and pump n dumpers.

Look at the ghetto. The triumph of feminism.

Betas get no love
Alpha get all the sex they can handle
Tons of unmarried women with bastard kids
Total community in chaos and disfunction

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The dysfunction isn’t just relegated to Shaniqua and Maria. The black/mexican ghetto model is expanding to other areas, including white suburban areas. They too are feeling the brunt of feminism and hypergamy unleashed. I’d guess seventy percent of the girls I went to high school with are baby mamas now. Impregnated by alphas of course, who they share with other women in the harem. Susie Sucksalot wouldn’t have it any other way.

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@41 Rooks –

Did you seriously just compared women having to cook and clean to Jim Crow laws and the jewish persecution by nazis?

@42 mel –

Ghetto is a bad example. In my experience, growing up in inner city ohio the loudest strongest bitches actually ended up fucking the more beta guys because they didnt challenge them. Ghetto beta guys aren’t like hipster or nerdy betas though, they’re still masculine, but they’re still yes men that constantly give the girl compliments and buy her shit.

Look at most rappers, the epitome of “ghetto alpha” they roll in expensive cars, decked out in all kinds of expensive shit, and talk about how they buy expensive booze (Cristal mothafucka) This is all to get bitches. Using material goods to get girls, to me, goes against the very idea of having game and being alpha.

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rooks

Research has shown that some of these can be true (obviously)

Which ones are obviously true? you just said all of them were socially constructed (meaning false)?

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A woman is invisible to me unless she makes me chub out by standing in front of me.

Seriously. Girls, at their best are just….BORING AS HELL.

Except for fucking. Doggystyle.

Why any man would invest his time, money, and trust in a girl in this culture, where easy sex is there for the taking, is unbelievable to me.

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@44 Chad Daring…good points, except you went a little too far with regards to the “Ghetto Alpha” using the trappings of wealth, instead of actual game, to get girls. The fact that he has these trappings doesn’t mean he doesn’t have game. In fact, it requires some alphaness to be able to hustle to afford the trappings. Other wealthy men, while not having shit that’s quite so gaudy, also attract and get women with their trappings. These guys don’t buy women anything – they let them orbit and partake of that champagne, then get fucked and put in a cab home if they’re lucky. They aren’t doing all that JUST to get girls. They’re enjoying their success, which naturally attracts groupie chicks. You see a great many pro athletes get played for their money after marrying glorified groupies and getting rolled for half their shit. Many of these guys are gameless, and only get girls because they’re famous.

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“The biological “natural” differences between men and women are obviously our bodies and the fact that women get pregnant…. all the rest is just social constructions.”

Sorry, this is about as same bullshit as Marxist theory of class struggle.

Hormones influence behavior and evolution shapes behavior.

Basically, gender studies fanatics claim that the last few hundred years have more effect on humans than the several million years that our ancestors spent on African plains.

The fact that educated people believe them just sadly reflects on the contemporary state of biology education in the US. Maybe that is because evolution is a hot topic there and many schools tacitly avoid details.

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“declining birthrates? now china and india rule the future”

What’s wrong with China and India ruling the future?

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used to play a game with my buddies when we met lawyers chicks or female whatever PhD program students. we’d see how long she’d shit test before eventually openly and flagrantly flirting….almost never failed.

as for women…play the game to the bone if you want to get laid in America. it won’t be that great anyway. the random American girls I banged or SNL’d over the years were rarely worth even that. my ex was the ONLY American girl I ever dated worth anything….but I was so blind from all else I knew about women…i didn’t appreciate it.

my advice to the rest? go abroad. DO NOT marry a woman resembling the average American woman.

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BTW As far as declining birth rates go, you will not find a worse collapse than in China and proximity (Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan).

China is demographically an aging country already. Their # of 18-yos peaked in 2010 and it is going to slide from that moment on.

Even the Party considers repealing the One Child Policy, probably too late, as the model is already fixed in the culture and in people’s heads.