Flashback: Working For The Man

When I had a job a couple years ago I was asked by my little cousins to give a speech at their career day:

I talked to 3rd graders first and was very impressed with their zombie-like state. Even though they probably didn’t care about what I was saying, they appeared to be paying close attention. They stared at the front of the class while remaining completely still. They obediently raised their hands when I asked for participation, and no one spoke unless I called on them. They read questions from a worksheet given out by the teacher.

The environment was robbing them of creativity and spontaneous excitement. Whenever a kid got distracted and started doodling or going through things in his desk, the teacher interrupted me to snap at him. This happened even more in the 1st grade class because they were not fully “trained.” I felt bad for them. They were being ordered around like soldiers.

I have overcome the brainwashing of public schooling and my mom’s constant nagging to do what I’m doing today, which if you’re reading this on Sunday afternoon is riding an eight-hour bus.

In the next post I share my tips for making it through a day at the office.

Put your back to your cubicle entrance and practice falling asleep with one hand on the keyboard and the other on the mouse. (Make sure you have a work-related document open on the screen.) This is easy to do if you have a chair that has a high back. There are two things to watch out for: (1) Your screensaver may activate while you nap, and (2) Your hand may smash some keys, making people who pass by you wonder why you have a screen full of G’s. When someone knocks on the frame of your cubicle entrance, waking you up, they will confuse your tired haze with deep and creative thought.

I respect people who are doing what they can to make a living, but that office shit was unbearable to me.

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So what is your plan to make a living and retire?

Benny the Irish polyglot
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This article at Wikihow has some excellent pointers for surviving cubicle life, which you might want to link to in your next article.
It mentions how efficiency is punished so this behaviour is actually encouraged. I’ve only had a couple of office jobs but they make me really feel for people stuck in them for longer. I get paid now for the actual amount of work I do (i.e. literally PER WORD) and I take satisfaction out of it. Also, instead of a cubicle and a boss I have a view over Guanabara Bay at Rio and am working for myself. Aaaah grin

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Retirement plan = ward of the state.

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Retirement is ideal for those with a large network of family and friends, who can spend their days visiting each other and sharing some tea.

But, since we’re talking about cubicle life here, in a country where people are largely disconnected from each other, retired people are like old 286’s.

So, my suggestion would be to find a good group of friends, a nice location, and build a big family, and say F.U. to the capitalist society!

bez’s last blog post: Maintaining Momentum.

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Stupid comments, a shame really.

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Funny post.

I don’t mind my office gig because it pays well and it’s ridiculously easy.

I figure just as long as your office job doesn’t define who you are as a human being then you should be fine. It’s just some place I go to to sit around all day so I can get some money.

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However, the new economy (about the last 30 years) dictates that pensions are more and more rare, so as almost to be nonexistent. Its incredibly difficult to save enough to support yourself during retirement with passive income, in the way of interest, from those savings. Especially when you account for inflation. So what do you do?

Most people work jobs they hate for one of two reasons. First, they think that they have no other option, which may be true in many cases. Or, they think it will provide for their comfortable retirement. The truth is, to have any type of retirement income above social security payments, will take an enormous amount of creativity and effort beyond which is doable by most people. Most people live to the limits of their income, even into the six figure range. There is very little, if any, saved for retirement. And if there is, it doesn’t last long. remember, inflation is eating away at your savings every year.

So what do you do? Work a job that you hate, until you cant anymore, and then collect social security? Which means that your basically hand to mouth your entire life, but not even in an environment that you enjoy, only to live hand to mouth in retirement?

Or do you fuck worrying about retirement, hope you die before then, and live life as hard and fast as you can, and have as much adventure as you can, until that time? Of course the best solution would be somewhere in the middle, and would come from that rare creativity that I spoke about before.

But for everyone else, I cant see how they would want to live a mundane struggle of a life in preparation for mundane hand to mouth existence in their older years. But then, yes, there is that argument that its for the family. But seriously, that means that you are bringing people into an already overpopulated and over competitive world that are probably going to wind up doing the same thing, that is living for/through their children. You wont be able to teach them to be any more successful. So, from my POV, thats also a selfish and short sited strategy, as far as the rest of the planet is concerned.

And Anonymous, point me to your blog. I cant wait to read it and be captivated. Wait, you dont have one? But you know everything about Roosh because you cant stay off of his widely read blog? Oh, Ok. My mistake. I thought you had something, anything to offer the world. Alas, you do not. When you wind up killing yourself in the not to distant future, as I can see that your clearly unstable and obsessed, please be kind and do it where someone else doesn’t have to clean up the mess…

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I think it makes far more sense to just change your lifestyle habits.

People work these shit jobs so they can barely afford things they don’t really need. They buy these things because they need to fit in with others or seek their approval. This is basic human nature. We crave other people’s validation.

I know people want to blame the media and our culture etc. But this isn’t true. The media and our culture are merely exploiting an INNATE, BIOLOGICAL drive.

People whine about how materialistic our culture has become compared to cultures in the past. This couldn’t be further from the truth. Go read some of the great Roman philosophers. They were complaining about the very same things 2000 years ago.

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Theres a lot of truth in what Bez said. Thats why I’m moving to a super cheap place and having like 10-12 kids. Thats my retirement plan. I’m serious.

They won’t let daddy starve…

Remember the central american pimp from Kill Bill 2?
That might even be a better idea…

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Never had an office job before. What exactly do you get paid to do?

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Take the cue from Roosh’s lifestyle habits (which he’s talked about in older posts, look through the archives). He doesn’t waste his money on stupid shit he doesn’t need or care for, and he lives/travels in countries with low cost of living (compared to US cost of living).

People who are doubting and asking ‘what do you do for retirement?’ Look around your apartment. Look at all the stupid insignificant shit you don’t need: too much clothes (most which doesn’t fit you and is not stylish), too much kitchen accessories/machines you don’t use, TV’s, the new car, stupid interior decorative shit, extra furniture, etc. You are Jack from the beginning of Fight Club. You are pathetic.

All a man really needs is: some stylish clothes, 2 pairs of sunglasses, laptop, notebook, a good book to read, a bag of condoms, bottle of booze, and a gun. Of course I’m oversimplifying but you get the gist.

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I wish “they’d” let a man build his own house. I kid you guys not, if you could pour a 800 sq. foot-slab of concrete, throw up a frame, lay a few bricks, shingle a roof, spray-some-insulation (that new spray kind that comes out of a bottle) and sub out a plumbing and electrical contractor……………..I bet you could build yourself a small house for 20 friggin’ thousand that you could pay off in five years.

Ive thought about several options that might get housing to be more affordable: concrete houses (a la Edison), cinder-block-houses with adobe plastered over them, even mining equipment to blast living space in the sides of mountains (little cave-houses if you will). To me, the biggest financial obstacle the regular guy faces is the absurd cost of his monthly rent. Our first little house my parents had was $6,000. That home, even in the lousy part of town its in, would be close to $100,000 now. It was only 800 sq. feet. It had two little bedrooms, one bath, a kitchen, and living room. It was small, but if you could build something like that, you could always add onto it.

It takes most young guys about two checks a month to pay their rent, heat their digs, pay for their cable bill, have running water. Its their biggest expense. Food, if you cook at home, really isn’t all that expensive (eat veggies, fruit, and cook meat while drinking teas and you will see what Im talking about). Clothes can be had very cheap at Target, K-Mart, Sears, JcPenny, and Walmart. You can get a second-hand entry-level automobile that is <5 years old for about $5,000. A summer of work can get you dressed, fed for the year, and a set of wheels with insurance. What cost so friggin' much is keeping a roof over your head. Its why so many women have to work these days instead of getting to be "mom" to their kids. Its why men have to trade their health and life to be dads and husbands. When I see what people get now for $200K, it makes me sick. You should get a damned mansion for that, but all you get is a 1700 sq foot ranch (which is fine, but not for that kind of money). The 30 and 40-year notes are such a daunting untertaking for a young guy/couple. No wonder so many relationships break off over money.

If we could figure out a way to make small homes as affordable as they should be, more men could do what Roosh is doing and pursue their dreams after working just a few years. They could pay off a house by working from about 18-22 or so and set sail for a while, or they could travel as soon as they turn 18 with the knowledge that they could buy and pay off a neat little place in a few years time. A 30-40 year commitment is such a big mountain to climb that its no wonder that so many young adults are living at home or over their parents garages these days. Apartment rent is damn near as high as house notes in my city. They've got it all figured out (my opinion), and it keeps most of us guys running like hamsters on wheels.

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Roosh, I read your retirement article before. What I’m wondering is how you’re going to save $10K in a 3rd world and how will you attract chicas when your looks start to go?

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Yea I need out of the corporate and my job IS A FUCKING GRIND.

I got into work at 6pm last night and was there until 3am. Only to show back up at 8AM

I’m 26. I’m tired. I probably look 35-40. My health is deteriorated.

My boss claims I’ve become distant or that I’ve “checked out” at work. If working 6-7 days a week, often times way past 9pm is “checked out”…then what the fuck do they really want?!?!…..oh yea…my soul….I already know the answer to that

I need to get the fuck out of this… I don’t even make six figures for all this bullshit.

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Check out dome houses z around 6k.

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i like my office job, dont see what all the hate is about.

leave my house 5:30AM, get here 6AM, work all day on “office stuff,” working on problems, fixing stuff, taking care of stuff….then i go home around 3, get home around 330, and have the rest of the entire day to do whatever i want.

i take pride in being independent, taking care of myself, making my own money, living in a big city and just being alive.

lots of worst shit you could be doing!! i work for money managers, btw.

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this is so sad