Freedom

I’m going to tell you what freedom is not. Freedom is not having burdens or responsibilities. It’s not having a job you must go to. It’s not having a girlfriend who is expecting you to call, or having a standing date with friends where your absence must be explained with an elaborate excuse. It is not having to give some type of prolonged notice to terminate a contract or job. It is not owning so many possessions that you need a storage unit. It is not having a wallet full of so many cards that your life turns upside down when you lose it.

I’m reminded of my freedom when I’m on a bus to another city. All my possessions, my summer and winter clothes, my dress clothes and two extra pairs of shoes, are in the undercarriage riding along with me. No one knows where I am and no one cares. I’m going to a city I’ve never seen before as a complete stranger, with no obligations to see anything or visit anyone. I have no worries, no bills, and no tasks. I’m reclining on an old chair, but I might as well be floating above the street, with no string wrapped around my neck pulling me back to where I was. I could die on the autostrada, in between villages whose names I don’t know and which are not announced with pleasant signs, and it would take several days for anyone who knows me to find out. Or my bags could go missing and within a couple weeks I could easily have the contents replaced. This is freedom.

I wouldn’t trade these bus rides, of having to answer to no one, for all the money in the world or for all the women in the world. I lay back, close my eyes, and let my thoughts and dreams go wherever they want, with no stress or anxiety disturbing them. There is no rush and there is no hurry. I am free. The whole world can demand something of me and I can laugh them off. My own government can take all my money from my bank accounts but they can’t find me on this bus.

Maybe I will stay a while in my destination or maybe I won’t. Maybe I will invent a new identity with the locals I meet or maybe I’ll be me. Maybe I will get laid or maybe I will work. Maybe I will take a tram or maybe I will walk. I was not free when I lived beyond my means, when I depended on the income that the man would grace me with every two Fridays. But I started to spend less than my earnings, and over the course of years it has given me my freedom. The only person I have to answer to is myself. I can vanish tomorrow, and nothing will happen. If I never check my email, never answer my phone, if I just disappear—I’ll do just fine. If you can’t simply close your eyes, and say goodbye to the world, you are not free.

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84 Comments

  1. smokinjoe July 19, 2013 at 9:30 am

    Great writing Roosh. You are an inspiration to red pill Libertarians everywhere. Thank you for this.

  2. G July 19, 2013 at 9:36 am

    “If you can’t simply close your eyes, and say goodbye to the world, you are not free.”Fully agree!

  3. muc July 19, 2013 at 9:44 am

    This. Exactly. It’s not the money, it’s not the recognition, it sure as hell aren’t all the toys, it’s just doing what you want to do when you want to do it.

    But I think some are born to look for that. Other’s aren’t. Otherwise I could not explain to myself why so many live the opposite.

  4. bb753 July 19, 2013 at 9:46 am

    Nice to see you are finally evolving…. Best of luck! I guess you’re in Italy or whereabouts.

  5. Shiteghshj July 19, 2013 at 9:46 am

    If you aren’t a lonely sociopath you aren’t free.

  6. Philly John July 19, 2013 at 9:50 am

    Don’t vanish just yet Roosh, your writing is addictive.

  7. Raul Felix July 19, 2013 at 9:56 am

    This is the stage I hope to get to some day. I have had it and it feels great. I have to continue moving forward to make it happen again for me. My idea of freedom is traveling the world on a motorcycle with everything I need and I want in my saddlebags. Riding through roads of different countries and only worrying about myself.

  8. Rob July 19, 2013 at 9:58 am

    Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose.

  9. Vincent Vinturi July 19, 2013 at 10:07 am

    Damn straight Roosh.

    If you’re not ready to die right now, you’re not living!

    I left a wage slave existence in the US to come to Thailand with a one way ticket.

    Since then I’ve:

    – progressed my online business
    – wondered where my next meal is coming from
    – fell off a waterfall and thought I was going to die (and I was ready)
    – saw the US from afar and began to see it for what it really is, a strange little place with an oppressive government, backwards culture and messed up women (not all of course…)
    – met amazing people and beautiful women

    …and more.

    As you said, the less you “have” the more you “are”. Keep on doing your thing brother.

  10. Engineerio July 19, 2013 at 10:20 am

    Hi Roosh,

    I’ve been reading your writings for over a year. I enjoyed this piece. What you are touching on is something that I have been struggling with for perhaps 4 years. I make good money working as an engineer, but I cannot stand being called late at night to fix something. I have been traveling to Europe my whole life, and I must say that when my cell phone doesn’t work (non-GSM), and I am not checking e-mails, it all feels pretty wonderful.

    My main issue is sustainability. I still have a large ($80k) student loan debt that I hope to pay off in two years (my income will allow for this). Then, what? Even beyond money, haven’t you also written about some desire to build something on this planet? When traveling constantly, I find that the only thing I build is a network of friends, some loose and some tight, that I can go see again if possible. This has been amazing as I can stay in countries for cheap and spend time with people that I know.

    Something tells me you have also built something like this. Is it satisfying you? Do you still feel the need to build something greater than a free life for yourself? Or has your mind transitioned into some place where you only want to build for yourself? Trust me, I wonder every day of my life which choice will bring more happiness. Some of my best moments have been when I solved problems in the field using my engineering knowledge. Being put into intense situations where lots of money is on the line can be thrilling. However, I go home and at the end of the day I feel like the people who I work with only see me for the value that I bring to the company. Some become friends, most do not.

    I feel that we are all a slave to something, in some way. If you take anything that you do daily and ask yourself if you could go without it for two weeks, I imagine you would find several things that you cannot go without. Perhaps working out, or getting a coffee and reading the paper. These are things that are beneficial to you, for sure, but are you a slave to them?

    Perhaps I digress too much. I just wonder if the other side of the coin, wherein you build something – a family, a business,etc. – has any worth. Certainly you have obligations once you go down that path, but are all obligations negative?

    I am not so sure.

  11. DistinguishedGentleman July 19, 2013 at 10:35 am

    Really love the one where your absence from events must be explained with elaborate excuses. I hate that. Sometimes I want to be alone, for no “reason”. Many times, in fact.

    Anyway, I’d say you have more freedom than typical wage slave, but not “true” freedom (which makes you WAAAAAAY better off).

    Not sure true freedom exists for anyone who is not millionaires (i.e. people who really can go *anywhere* they want and do *anything*). That said, not all millionaires are free.

  12. Rob July 19, 2013 at 10:41 am

    Great article, but for most of us this isn’t really attainable until well into our 30’s at the earliest.

    I’d love to just drop everything and go, but there’s only so many people that can live that type of life where they have residual income from an online business, or book sales like Roosh.

    Still, awesome writing.

  13. Ruxman July 19, 2013 at 10:42 am

    Thought of the Hendrix song of the same name pretty quick.

    I get bored when I read about other manosphere writers describing themselves in their tailor made suits and high profile jobs where they get to share the table with their boss and that I should aspire to the same.

    I’ll never get that homogenised trash with roosh though.

  14. cryo July 19, 2013 at 10:50 am

    “I’d love to just drop everything and go, but there’s only so many people that can live that type of life where they have residual income from an online business, or book sales like Roosh.”

    If you are not at that point yet, you should be striving to get there.

  15. Anonymous July 19, 2013 at 10:57 am

    When you are forced to look at angry feminist every day, you are truly reminded of how little freedom you have.
    Imagine being able to escape this hellhole..imagine living in a country where the women are so terrible that you would have to leave to get a decent life.
    Imagine living in a country where the men hate the women so much that if they all dropped dead or simply disappeared, not a single tear would be shed, no formal investigation of this incident (miracle) would be initiated …just a huge collective sigh of relief:Thank you God..
    To live in such a place..is the furthest from freedom you can get.

  16. OldHornDog July 19, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Was living in Los Angeles for about 20 years. Went there with two suitcases and as life commences you start accumulating, like everyone else. Did the whole employee routine in the IT sector – money was good for a while, then the dot.com bubble burst and it all went to shit.

    One day in late 2008 I started a blog and somehow it grew like wildfire. A year after I was able to start charging money and the year after I made the same with it that I had earned as an employee. A year and a half after that I sold everything I had (frankly a lot of it I simply gave away) and put the rest into a small storage unit – just in case. Moved to Spain with two suitcases and here I now live like a king on less money than I spent in West L.A. for a modest treehouse in the hills.

    Women are amazing (and cheap) here – food is excellent – my Spanish is getting better. All I own here is my laptop, a big monitor (need it for my blog) and my clothes. That’s it – everything else is rented and I can drop my apartment at the drop of a hat. I don’t recall when I have ever been this happy in my life – it came a bit late as I’m in my late fourties but everyone tells me I don’t look a day over 35, so I guess my genetics (and my lifestyle) are working in my favor.

    My Spanish has been improving steadily and after a bit over a year I am conducting fluent conversations. Don’t get me wrong – it’s a bit different than what Roosh is doing but I love what I do and the fact that I don’t report to anyone gives me as much freedom as I have ever desired.

    Life is good – and very rarely do I miss Los Angeles. Perhaps the dry weather, but that’s about it. Women are gorgeous over here – despite the bad rep that many here are giving Spanish women I am connecting pretty well with them (perhaps it’s the blue eyes thing).

    Guys – sit down this weekend and think about your life. What really motivates you, what really makes you happy. Women are not the reason you should expatriate – there are many other and more important factors to life and what we have learned in the United States is a great bonus that can give us a big advantage on other shores.

    In essence: Don’t be afraid to re-invent yourself at any moment in your life. No matter where you are or what you think ties you down. Chains can be broken, so let your mind wander free.

    Life is too short. So get naked, fuck a lot, and make a lot of noise.

  17. Krauser July 19, 2013 at 11:00 am

    Agreed. I’m not quite as nomadic as you but the principle holds. I came to the realisation that I only care about three things: my time, my freedom, and the people in my life. I strive to maximise and make the most of those.

    Money is only good to the extent it enables that.

  18. ladderff July 19, 2013 at 11:02 am

    The fact remains that even under some idealized economic system not everyone can be an entrepreneur and not everyone should have to be. Not everyone would be happy with that–or good at it. Sad that the choice today is to be either an itinerant or a put down schlub– though I know which one I prefer

  19. Anonymous July 19, 2013 at 11:13 am

    Freedom is a liberating thing I’m reminded of every time I get on a train to see a new country, but freedom can be very lonely at times.

  20. Anonymous July 19, 2013 at 11:21 am

    You are lucky. Money buys this kind of freedom. I would love to pick up and leave like you but I only make enough to get by and don’t have enough saved to truly be free. One day hopefully. It is a dream and with hard work I hope to be there one day myself.

  21. Tampa July 19, 2013 at 11:23 am

    I think true freedom is purusing a goal or ambition that you personally want to obtain. There is nothing like the pursuit of a conquest. It could be money, it could be women, it could “freedom.” But the joy of life really exists in the chase of a goal. Wandering around like a nomad isn’t fun. A man needs a goal and a purpose and that’s when he is most happy.

  22. gfly July 19, 2013 at 11:28 am

    Wait you can’t go. Who is going to take out the trash in suburbia?
    I used to live that way. Once you have a kid, unless you are pyscho you are not free.

  23. Théau July 19, 2013 at 11:35 am

    So freedom is loneliness ? Freedom is not having any roots ? How can’t you feel alone/sad ? We all have and need family and friends right ?

  24. DJ July 19, 2013 at 11:57 am

    I would add this to my definition of freedom:

    Freedom is being the protagonist prime actor and director of your own life and writing your own script according to what you want out of life.

  25. Anonymous July 19, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    hmmm….freedom, I wish I was in Brazil right now, speaking Portugese,learning Samba, exploring their immense sexuality …. but I work 9-6, 6-7 days a week, and I am married … I think we are all where we’re supposed(or choose) to be, in a sense.

  26. derthal July 19, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    One by one, tribe by tribe, the free people of this planet disappear. Bushmens are fading, free tribes of Amazon forest become dependent on external world. There are many others which fate is uncertain. The rest are just numbers in databases. Every bit of information written about you somewhere on device takes tiny part of your soul.
    Many a pickle makes a mickle.

  27. OldHornDog July 19, 2013 at 12:43 pm

    “hmmm….freedom, I wish I was in Brazil right now, speaking Portugese,learning Samba, exploring their immense sexuality …. but I work 9-6, 6-7 days a week, and I am married … I think we are all where we’re supposed(or choose) to be, in a sense.”

    If you wish for all those things then WHY did you get married? That was a major beta move and you know it. You thought she’ll be the best you’d ever find – just like all the other brain washed sheep.

    If you really want those things then what is stopping you for f…’s sake? Chances are in 50 years from now you’ll be dust. You are given one life – so do what it takes to fulfill your dreams. A marriage is not easy to unravel – I admit – but if you are unhappy then that should be your first goal.

  28. Brian July 19, 2013 at 12:44 pm

    There are two types of freedom: the freedom from restraints (negative freedom) and the freedom to do things (positive freedom).

    An alcoholic who is allowed to drink himself to death has more negative freedom than one who is forced into an AA class, but he dies, whereas the one forced into the class (assuming it is successful) will go on to have all kinds of freedoms that he wouldn’t have while bound by the chains of his addiction.

    I highly recommend an essay about this by Isaiah Berlin called “Two Concepts of Liberty.”

    What you will find is that this dichotomy is fundamental to most of the disagreements between liberals and conservatives.

  29. Sean July 19, 2013 at 1:34 pm

    I like a lot of your writing but not this.

    Freedom is living a life that you freely chose to live. Someone with a job, a pretty wife, and three kids is perfectly free. Its the life they chose for themselves.

    The key point is the ability to choose you own path. Freedom isn’t removing responsibilities from yourself, but the ability to choose which responsibilities you want to bear. That being said I’m single 20 something and love it, but I wouldn’t call someone whose chose to take on responsibility as lacking freedom.

  30. nguyenimproved July 19, 2013 at 1:46 pm

    Wow, one of your best posts Mr Rooshman.
    Simple but effective. It neatly sums up that great high-inducing euphoria that shedding the skin of friends, family, and social obligations gives you. Awesome feeling knowing noone knows where you are, what you’re doing. You can recreate yourself at those times.
    Quite invigorating post. I’m guessing this is what a vagina feels like when it is freshly shaved.

  31. nguyenimproved July 19, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    @mrhorndog your story is very interesting. you should write a blog..oh wait. btw are you in madrid. i think the women there are classier than in barcelona. to facilitate that life you’re leading guys will need a passive income of some kind. for you it was easy cos of your IT background but most guys are stuck in work which requires them to be physically on site. and what is your blog?

  32. Lemon July 19, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    I had this kind of freedom when I was young, but then I got bored with it, and it felt hollow.

    I had a family and now I serve them joyfully. I also work at a career that I love, pioneering science that means a huge amount to the world.

    The point is, being a “servant” to things you love is a great honor as well. Don’t be afraid to abandon your freedom when something calls. Don’t be afraid to sacrifice your self to provide freedom to your children and grandchildren.

  33. Bui3 July 19, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    @24

    “So freedom is loneliness ?”
    NO IS NOT, YOU CAN MAKE GOOD FRIENDS, FIND INTERESTING PEOPLE TO SHARE AND BANG NICE WOMEN ALMOST EVERY PLACE YOU GO (not hard at all).

    “Freedom is not having any roots ?”
    YOUR ROOTS ARE ALWAYS WITH YOU IF YOU SO DECIDE.

    “How can’t you feel alone/sad ?”
    BECAUSE I AM NOT A NEEDY AND INSECURE SISSY, I AM MAN WHO CAN TAKE CARE OF MYSELF.

    “We all have and need family and friends right?”
    YOU CAN GO VISIT THEM ONCE IN A WHILE, THERE IS ALSO A THING CALL INTERNET AND TELEPHONES FOR YOU TO COMMUNICATE.

  34. Mage July 19, 2013 at 2:57 pm

    This is the corrupt understanding of freedom westerners have. This is individualism.

    Feminism is the logical product of individualism when applied to women.

    You cannot defeat feminism unless you defeat individualism, but you love it to much.

    This post is a step backwards a fall back into ignorant darkness.

    You are quick to see the fault of women who disrespect men who biuld technology and civilisation, but if all men would embrace your “freedom” then we would have no civilisation and technology either.

    True freedom means the strenght to be congurent with oneself and not to deviate from the course you have set for youself from the always changing desires and fractuating whims that flow in and out of your mind constantly. That is the freedom all great spiritual leaders have been talking about. That is the freedom Christ talked about, but humans misunderstood him and thought that hee spoke about freedom from state, which is a much less significant a thing than freedom from your own demons (changing desires).

    Abandoning everything on a mere whim and pointlessly restarting your life just for the sake of your failures in previous life of your feelings (note the feminine nature of following feelings) is the true slavery of a frustrated mind that gets constantly bombarded by ever new ideas and desires from media, changing fashions, peoples opinions and other fleeting and unsubstantial things.

  35. decomposer917 July 19, 2013 at 3:21 pm

    Some people call this true freedom while others would call it trying to run away from responsibilities and obligations and refusing to grow up. I don’t have a particularly strong opinion on which one it is, but would like to get your perspective, guys, on this.

  36. Sam Spade July 19, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    Sean above nailed it. As long as you’re pursuing what you want and not for some other reason, you are free.

    Case in point, I have a job that I like. Do I give up something to get my paycheck? Certainly. Everything is a transaction and the world is a marketplace. Roosh has found a different way to get what he wants, but there is always a cost incurred. Only you can decide for yourself what’s worth giving up and what you want to gain.

    Great post nonetheless. I got divorced because I missed what Roosh is describing. Had nothing to do with the ex. Just my vision of my personal freedom.

  37. Phil July 19, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Money is still important.

    What I mean is: Possessions are usually more trouble than they’re worth. They lessen one’s freedom.

    Money however, *is* freedom.

    I have enough money at this moment to buy a one-way ticket to Thailand, Poland, Costa Rica, etc, and live there for the next year a free man, Heck, maybe for the next four or five years if I play my cards right.

    But after that??

    It’s going to take more MONEY. I’m only 31 years old.

    The trick is building an internet business that spins off enough cash to keep you mobile and FREE.

    Buying a plane ticket and selling your stuff is ridiculously simple. Generating lasting cash flow–without a boss, without a 9-5 job–isn’t.

  38. MattW July 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    This principle can be taken too far. The simplest example is road rules. If there were no rules for driving it’s very likely that it would be more difficult to do what you wanted to do. A few rules make it so that everyone can get where they want to go more easily with fewer accidents or interruptions.

    There are other cases where writers like Roosh advocate principles and ideas that are great on an individual basis, but simply would not work if applied universally.

  39. Virile Kent July 19, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    You are not getting ready to kill yourself, are you???

  40. Paul July 19, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    A very Buddhist post

  41. Curt July 19, 2013 at 6:52 pm

    “If you can’t simply close your eyes, and say goodbye to the world, you are not free.”

    True but this is much easier said than done.

  42. Bob July 19, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    “No one knows where I am, and no one cares.” Does that really strike you as being a desirable condition, for the rest of your life?

  43. JM July 19, 2013 at 8:29 pm

    Really curious what your financial situation is, and how you plan to sustain it, particularly without the fuck guides. Is the end game an early retirement, vis a vis Smith and Wesson? Is it gaining EU citizenship, renouncing US citizenship, and suckling at the dole for 30 years? or do you seriously (recklessly) not think about it and let the chips fall where they may? Not to say you haven’t had one fuck of a ride so far, but there’s a lot more stops on this bus to go for you.

  44. GeorgeoftheJungle July 19, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    anyone can travel and do this… I have been traveling for the past 2 years… I left home with $1,500 usd in my bank account, Everywhere I travel I stay in hostels and every hostel is looking for work… So no matter where I go, I have a job and I get to keep traveling… I can leave whenever I want… Just have to think outside the box a little… just get on that plane and go

  45. supra July 19, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    Roosh is still young and he is accomplished (His books and R.O.Kings are no small feats). He is going through phase of life and, I suspect, coming to the end of a particular phase and he’ll create a new one. Transitions are tough sometimes. He’ll probably marry a Polish girl and settle downt here.

    For the younger guys, something David D said that is true but often not adhered to: the money you make is not the ‘feed corn’ where you earn and then you consume. It is the ‘seed corn’: you earn it and consume as little as possible – the rest is to set you free. That freedom can be in the form of:

    -living like Roosh,

    -starting a business that will throw off cash (where you are free from a boss or company that has control over you),

    -or it can be in buying your house and car for cash where you are free from, and need no longer give consideration to the banks that hold your mortgage or car notes when making your decisions -can you envision how nice it will be to have your paycheck without any rent or mortgage due?

    -To be able to tell your company that you really would like to take 3 more weeks of vacation over the 3 you’re allotted but that you don’t expect them to pay for it. I personally love my work and I love business and building a business: I just don’t wanna do it 49 weeks out of the year. I read one guy who runs his own business lifestyle: he and his wife take 8 weeks of vacation a year – that’s 2 weeks off every 3 months. Yes, yes, it’s not Roosh’s lifestyle or the gentleman commentator from Madrid above lifestyle, but this is more attainable and to paraphrase the stones, not what you want, but probably more of what you need.

    -EVERYONE here should read the book “FLOW” by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (American of Bulgarian origin I believe). It will quickly disabuse you of the fantasy notion that you will be happier basically doing nothing or playing constantly. You won’t. In short, he had 100 people wear pagers for like a year and he would page them 10x a day and they had to write down what they were doing and on a scale of 1-10 how happy and fulfilled they were doing it. Results are surprising: people were generally much more fulfilled at their work than they were sitting on a beach on vacation. The most fulfilling things were the things wherein…..(read the book and don’t try to get the cliff not paragraph summary from me)

    Money used thus can provide tremendous peace of mind – just knowing you have the power and ability to not work, to not be under the pressure that 98% of people in the Western World are under because of their spending habits – to be able to take the breaks and have the adventures you need/want within reason (I’m shooting for 8 week/yr) – that’s an important form of freedom. In short, there’s a spectrum and Roosh is all the way at one end, and, I sense, not altogether happy there, nor would you be after as many years as he’s been at that extreme end.

    1. awesomeme January 2, 2014 at 7:59 am

      polish girls are too ugly and fat for marriage

  46. supra July 19, 2013 at 9:39 pm

    Finally – a lot of people are not business people naturally, just like a lot of us are not warriors naturally, nor scholars, successful with women, or artists naturally or whatever. BUT, there are lots of people who would like to have the results/benefits of some of those things without being a ‘natural’. In this respect, for those not good at business may want to confine themselves to something rather simple for starters that I allude to above:

    1.) Buy a condo and pay off your house or condo as fast as humanly possible.

    2.) Buy your used car with cash

    3.) Use the mortgage and car payment you would have been paying and save it (like profits from a business) or just buy another condo or house and rent it out (like expanding your business).

    4.) DO NOT increase your consummption in any way/shape or form. There are a lot of encouraging things about game and one is that money is not paramount so take that lesson to heart.

    Although struggling to swallow and choke down the red pill one piece at a time (I think it broke in my throat and sometimes I cough part of it back up) I can personally attest to the above method. It’s like learning game: you have to really want it and really care about it. Just saying you care will not cut it.

  47. Phero July 19, 2013 at 9:44 pm

    Freedom is having the ASSETS and income stream from doing what you like doing. Which makes it goal achieving and not work.
    You make your own hours, you get paid based on your results. It give great personal pleasure and satisfaction.

    Now you’re living in disney world.
    Sure everyone has the option to unplug, but if you’re using any electronic comms device, credit card, bank accts or eftpos…the gov knows where you are.

  48. Chi Hsu July 19, 2013 at 10:05 pm

    So say goodbye to your family?

  49. Ocean July 19, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    @48 supra
    J
    -“EVERYONE here should read the book “FLOW” by Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi (American of Bulgarian origin I believe). It will quickly disabuse you of the fantasy notion that you will be happier basically doing nothing or playing constantly. You won’t. In short, he had 100 people wear pagers for like a year and he would page them 10x a day and they had to write down what they were doing and on a scale of 1-10 how happy and fulfilled they were doing it. Results are surprising: people were generally much more fulfilled at their work than they were sitting on a beach on vacation. The most fulfilling things were the things wherein…..(read the book and don’t try to get the cliff not paragraph summary from me)”
    ————
    If someone like this Mihaly guy was paging me 10X a day and making me write shit down I think I would arrange a hit man and do the prick in. No fucking wonder they were not happy with some fucktard harraing them all the time. That book you talk about would be good to wipe my ass with–and that’s about it.

  50. nguyenimproved July 20, 2013 at 12:02 am

    @52 sea-man
    i haven’t read it but i would give it a chance. the east europeans are very observant and offer a lot of great insights into the inner machinations of the west.
    @48 toyota supra
    having said that there’s already a study on happiness that concluded people were most happy when they were ‘lost in the moment’. basically not idle and without time to think. those times when they were hard at work or similar. i think limitations can be drawn. maybe these drones should not be compared to the thinkers of scoiety like roosh (who are quite rare). when people are on vacation there is also an expectation that they SHOULD be happy so they will compare this to their current level and are more likely to find it unsatisfactory. like when you hear rave reviews about a movie and inevitably get disappointed. when at work there are no expectations of such happiness. also work is a “known” and familiar setting and structured. people may feel safer and at ease in such a situation. i don’t think it’s something that should be aimed for though. Humans like the “known” but it applies limitations to seek to stay in those fields.

  51. Moses July 20, 2013 at 1:51 am

    Best quotes in the post and comments:

    Roosh:
    “I wouldn’t trade…having to answer to no one for all the money in the world or for all the women in the world.”

    Krauser:
    “I came to the realisation that I only care about three things: my time, my freedom, and the people in my life. I strive to maximise and make the most of those.

    Money is only good to the extent it enables that.”

    I just turned 43. I stepped out of corporate life about 15 months ago. I was CEO of a small company and making good money. I liked the work too.

    What I didn’t like was reporting to a board who were not only dumbasses but who would take everything I could give and then screw me the first chance they got. Which they did.

    I realized that I was an idiot for pouring my heart into a job working to make others rich. I was CEO but had no fundamental control over the business or the value I was creating.

    I started my own business in the same field. I have 5 people now, working in a small office with second-hand furniture. I’m spending money and not making a dime (yet).

    But I choose the people I want. I decide everything. I answer to no one.

    And, goddamn, I’m loving it. This is the way to live. I never want another job again.

  52. N July 20, 2013 at 2:33 am

    @48 supra-Hungarian not Bulgarian

  53. Paul July 20, 2013 at 2:33 am

    Hey Roosh do you have any insights on how to achieve this freedom ? I would like to visit and spend some time in different cities from Romania but I would need at least 400 euros a month because rent is very high .

    Also are you still in Romania ? (autostrada) 🙂

  54. Joe Dick July 20, 2013 at 6:44 am

    EXCELLENT, man! You know, I don’t have money, I don’t have a girlfriend, I don’t have even a family, and you know what? I can be all you mentioned. I don’t have debts. I live modestly, and yet, because I always try to develop myself, I don’t give a shit about status. I am my own boss, I don’t owe shit to anyone. Sometimes I think ‘man, maybe if I had a nice wife, then I would be getting all the sex I want until my balls hurt. Maybe if I had a steady job, I would be more ‘normal’, because I know my life isn’t ‘normal’. Then I tell myself again: ‘A wife? Look at all the guys that are going through hell, getting thrown out of THEIR house and having to work for years for alimony because the bitch started to feel ‘the spark is not there anymore’ so she started eating like an hog, and they still get no sex’.

    You are right, Roosh. Taoist philosophy says that ‘the less you have, the more you gain’. That translates to: WE HAVE LITTLE TO LOSE. WE DON’T GIVE A FUCK. Yes life is not all bad. Yes not everybody is a crazy asshole or a psychobitch. Yes there are nice things in life, especially things considered ‘little’, that people learn to take for granted (especially women). But what else? When you aren’t in a jail and yet you have little to lose, YOU ARE FREE. And you know what? I totally understand why you think often about death. I do that too, not in a morbid way, but because I wanted my mind to learn not to deny it, like many people do. They say crap like ‘oh, I don’t think of it’. Yeah you don’t, but by doing so you are denying it, and when you deny it, it means you think you have all the time in the world. Ah, Roosh, my man. I wish I knew people like you that understand all this shit. Peace out

  55. OlioOx July 20, 2013 at 8:09 am

    I think everyone would really like the answer to one question in particular: Roosh, are you planning to change your way of earning a living?

  56. supra July 20, 2013 at 9:24 am

    @52 OCEAN: it’s a mostly free western world and you certainly have neither to be bothered with being part of a study you don’t wish to be part of, nor reading a book you don’t wish to read

    @53 nguyenimproved: (I used to own a Toyota Supra but I lent it to an Afghan soldier and ….though they are born to fight, I guess they don’t check oil in Afghanistan. The supra i refer to is actually a class of ship) you pretty much hit the nail on the head. The things that make us most happy and satisfied in the moment are the things that absorb us the most and require the most of what we’ve got. In lots of cases that’s our work. Most of us were imbued with the urge/instinct/drive to DO SOMETHING in life. I’d posit that a lot of unhappiness comes from not finding what we like doing and then doing it.

    At the very top of the lengthy list for things that people found most satisfying and absorbing, and that make people happiest in the moment were rock climbing and dancing. The analysis is that when you are doing those things you literally cannot think about anything else. If I could overdub “Dance Away the Heartache” by Roxy Music while you read this I’d do it

  57. supra July 20, 2013 at 9:57 am

    @54 Moses: That’s an important lesson for the young guys here and one that i’ve found to be true. When you get to a certain point where you make a certain amount of money (it varies widely from industry to industry) and you are a certain age, you become a target because the calculus is that they can save a lot of money by getting rid of you. The protection against this that you must find ways to cultivate are:

    -becoming so valuable by your personal contacts or expertise that it would hurt the company so badly if they got rid of you that they will refrain from doing that.

    Sometimes of course personal issues will trump the above, but it’s the irony of working for a company that the more you succeed into middle age, the more you become a target and someone they think they can replace by hiring 3 x energetic 23 year olds. I’ve seen it too many times

    All the more reason to not consume the seed corn and instead to plant it

  58. DJ July 20, 2013 at 12:28 pm

    +1 Phil. I agree 100% with you. MONEY is very important to FREEDOM. It is a key tool that must be generated in residual income stream to have the playboy lifestyle that Roosh talks about.

  59. JamesZed July 20, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    @ Roosh, That’s a mean trade-off
    @ DistinguishedGentleman, regarding elaborate reasons – see Patrick Bateman: “Just say no.”
    @ Sean – “Freedom is living a life that you freely chose to live” – you’re on point. Freedom implies choice. If you choose the life you have – you’re free.

    and finally, someone’s gotta make shit – hell, there’s even something to be said for producing something.

  60. Ocean July 20, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    @61 DJ

    You are thinking like a Westerner.
    You are also using the words “money” and “playboy” in the context of the Hollywood portrayal of what a playboy is.
    You know the sory of the Mexican Fisherman, right?
    If not I shall imprint it here for you to read — and think:

    THE STORY OF THE MEXICAN FISHERMAN
    An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.
    The Mexican replied, “only a little while. The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs. The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”
    The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.” The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
    The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”
    To which the American replied, “15 – 20 years.”
    “But what then?” Asked the Mexican.
    The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”
    “Millions – then what?”
    The American said, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”

  61. misterinfinite July 20, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    this reminds me of a post I wrote a while back..

    The things you own ultimately end up owning you. There is nothing I value more than my own freedom. If you cannot walk away from anything, you are not free.

    http://misterinfinite.com/2013/01/27/debt-is-slavery/

  62. Joe Dick July 21, 2013 at 4:28 am

    48 supra, you sound like someone who’s completely full of crap and doesn’t understand jack. Roosh ‘young’? He’s in his 30’s, are you retarded, that’s only a step away from being a middle-aged man. ‘He’ll probably marry a Polish girl and settle down’
    WTF? You sound as if you were some fucking retarded grandad. LOL…..It amazes me how overconfident, conventional-thinking asses assume how someone else’s life is going to turn out.

  63. Joe Dick July 21, 2013 at 4:39 am

    PS supra, David D is a marketer, I was studying his stuff 4 years ago, he’s the kind of guy who will market to you a 14 dvd course to explain something that can be explained in a short book. He also doesn’t live by what he preaches, look at the photos of him buying diamonds to women.
    The concept of ‘Flow’ is just some overly exaggerated way to describe the focus you have when you do something that you really like doing. You are still in what I call the ‘WOOOH-OOOOH’ stage

  64. Eliezer Ben-Yehuda July 21, 2013 at 5:26 am

    Everything you guys say is true.

    But….

    Aren’t the manospherians the ones who always claim that Men Built the World? Is that our goal, to be as unproductive as a vagina’s life-support-system is?

    If you are living a subsistence lifestyle, are you _secure_? And if you aren’t secure…. are you free, or merely as ignorant as the Mayans were in A.D.1491?

  65. Scandibro July 21, 2013 at 1:00 pm

    Freedom isn’t freedom from responsibility. It is freedom to choose your responsibilities.

    I think Roosh will come to this realizition after a few more years being a wandering spirit.

    I very much know the freedom of sitting in a bus alone in a strange land, but eventually it becomes meaningless. You begin to long for belonging and stability.

    Now this isn’t the same as craving security because of weakness, but a need to put your mark on the world with people you care about.

    Otherwise I believe you will never be able to feel at home, that wanderlust will become you and you will become a drifter. That’s the life for some perhaps, I am not sure if it is for me.

    I do know the gnawing feeling of wanting to uproot and go be born again somewhere else.

  66. mich July 21, 2013 at 6:37 pm

    Some of the best of Roosh’s writing comes in shrt, condensed texts. Keep going, keep improving.

  67. Quintus Curtius July 21, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    This is the voice of a Sufi mystic.

  68. Remo July 22, 2013 at 1:59 am

    But… don’t lose your passport or else… (or have it taken for taxes, child support, alimony, or any other gov’t reason) oh and don’t end up on the no-fly list either.

  69. OttoAu July 22, 2013 at 2:30 am

    Lucky you, no noose around your neck, free as a bird!

    One day you will find *her* and u will give up this freedom to be with her

    May it be a LONG time in the future for u! 🙂

  70. Giovonny July 22, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    I love it.

    Freedom is all I really care about.

    You were asking about Buddhism and Stoicism on Twitter.

    I love this type of philosophy.

  71. ken July 22, 2013 at 9:42 pm

    Sit tall in the saddle,
    Lift you head up high,
    Live like you’re not afraid to die.

    cf. Mel Tillis

  72. nguyenimproved July 23, 2013 at 12:35 pm

    @66 watching that white t-shirt guy beat up an unconscious brazilian dude made me feel sick to the bones. pretty savage. i’m not sure if it’s white knight cos those females were probably family/ gf. isn’t wk when you go in to bat for a stranger.

  73. Anonymous July 24, 2013 at 11:57 am

    So returning home every few months to live on your dad’s couch to replenish funds is freedom for you, but certainly not for him.

  74. Anonymous July 26, 2013 at 1:07 pm

    I too have pondered what true freedom was. Day after day passed during a very rainy, forcing me indoors to obsess over this question. (Since I couldn’t go day drink at the frat house what else was there to do?) But since I can’t condense my own understanding into a few sentences, I’ll give you the words of those who can.
    Q (Rouge Samurai): Since the begging, man was born into a state of freedom. He was not born so that he might submit to rules or to a master. This thought has occurred to me. My question is this. The duties of a warrior; does this philosophy no contradict them?
    A (Monk): No. Because freedom cannot be forced into existence, nor can it be won from painful struggle. Freedom cannot be bought or sold, it has nothing to do with someone’s social status, ones’ profession is of no consequence. In order to for you to accept yourself as you are and live with your soul in peace, you must simply let it be. Only then will you discover freedom.
    I live with the heart of a samurai only seeking truth and the strength to do battle with life’s obstacles.
    Roosh, your story is simply one more in the collection and nothing that I have not already heard. I will make sure to study your words, and one day I will find myself living like you. Freely.

  75. Anonymous July 26, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    Cause my beat plus your melody
    makes me speak a better beat
    e eloquently
    so evidently

  76. LoneWolf July 26, 2013 at 1:35 pm

    Yeah… uh-huh.

    It’s too bad we’re not all blessed with pulling magic dineros, rubles, or euros out of our asses to pay for the little pleasure rides between exotic ports-of-call, hotel rooms and the occasional meal to, uh, … I don’t know… sustain additional life via nutrition. You get the idea, I presume. Unless, of course, you’re able to steal your way through life – there’s no effing way that you, or anyone else can expect to have “freedom” from maintaining some sort of income to subsidize such nonsense…. yeah… and that includes income from “blogging” – since you still have to answer to your advertisers and your audience. So – you’re not really “free”, are you?

    This sounds as insipid as the laughably moronic belief in “game”. Game… really? So – you boys think you’re “gaming” some chick? For what? A nice evening of conversation? If you have to “game” some skank just to talk to her – well… that’s simply pathetic. So – it’s not about talking to women then, is it, Casanova? No… the “game” (and everything attached to it) is, quite simply, juvenile posturing in order to insert your penis inside some broad for 2 minutes. Now…. that’s even more pathetic.

    You want to know what’s more pathetic than that?

    The idea that you Casanovas think you’re in control of that process. Reality check boys – you’re not. Try inserting your penis inside of some skank without her permission. Yeah… it’s called “rape” (it’s even called “rape” whenever she feels like labeling it as such when you DO have her permission). So, who’s in control? Regardless of your ridiculous notion that “game” spins the odds to favor an occasional phuck in your favor, make no mistake… you are not in control – ever.

    To sell the idea of “freedom”, or “game” in today’s society is truly a disservice to young boys who would be better served not growing up in your whimsical fantasy world.

    1. Westsider October 15, 2016 at 3:00 am

      Wow, you’re so cynical even red-pill is considered “magical thinking” for you.

      “”the “game” (and everything attached to it) is, quite simply, juvenile posturing in order to insert your penis inside some broad for 2 minutes. Now…. that’s even more pathetic.”

      Funny, I’ve heard it’s also the way that genetic mixing takes place so as to increase the diversity of allele combinations, and therefore phenotypes, and thus improve the race’s odds of survival.

      But I’ll guess I’ll take your word word that it’s pathetic and “juvenile.”