Game Will Never Die

You haven’t seen many game articles from me in the past year, creating the impression that I quit the game entirely and am ready to renounce my previous books Bang and Day Bang. Many religiously minded men suspect I’ve found God or experienced a spiritual awakening. The plainer truth is that I still use game every single day, not to gain notches or casual sex, but within the dynamic of a relationship. From this new experience, I’m convinced that game is just as essential to maintaining relationships with non-sluts, especially in the modern age.

Approach game vs relationship game

For over ten years I used “approach game,” where I would cold approach women, present the most attractive version of myself based on my understanding of the true nature of women, and apply logistical tactics to seal the deal quickly and efficiently. This style of game has helped thousands of men with their sex life, whether their goal was to gain a notch or enter a relationship.

As many people predicted, I got tired of sleeping with random women. My dopamine receptors burned out to where I saw no point in duplicating sexual experiences and pursing notches with sluts. I also began to feel degraded from putting my phallus in so many dirty women who I had no respect for. So I changed course and eased into a monogamous relationship with a girl who meets my standards and has stronger values.

Even though I don’t approach women anymore, I’m still using game. I’m hyper-conscious about my girl’s behavior and actions along with my own, and I work at managing the gap between our nature and self-interest in a way that ensures our relationship is successful.

While this relationship isn’t the same as approaching ten girls in the club every night, it still uses the same part of my brain, along with skills that carry over from juggling many women at once. In terms of the differences, approach game requires more balls, grit, and energy while relationship game requires more emotional control and leadership.

I met my current girl through approach game, so for me to denounce that would be the same as wishing my relationship never would have happened. Approach game is a tool that is extremely useful for men who are introverted or lack a robust social circle while living in a large city (i.e. any man who has moved away from his hometown after high school). For this group, knowing how to approach women is just about required to meet a girl on the same socio-attractiveness level as him.

This doesn’t mean that my past writing is without flaws. If I were to write my game books all over again, I would make two changes:

1. Focus less on encouraging notch-building and “banging.” Building notches is not an effective long-term method to building your masculinity or confidence. For a time, however, I really thought that banging a lot of girls was the answer to happiness, and now that I see it’s not, I can advise men on what I learned and how—after a period of necessary experience—game should be used more as a tool than a lifestyle.

2. Advise men to stay away from mentally unstable girls. My advice did push men to sleeping with girls who were extremely promiscuous. The problem with this type of female is that they have issues that could cause men a lot of problems, ranging from stalking to false rape accusations. I want to focus more on keeping men out of harm’s way.

Most men would suffer without basic game knowledge

If you are a man living in the United States and are not in the top 10% in terms of attractiveness, and don’t have some innate knowledge of approach game or relationship game, there’s a good chance you won’t lose your virginity until your early 20’s or beyond. Even with my recent embrace of more traditional values, you can’t entirely skip out on game, because we no longer live in a traditional world.

I mentioned this fact in my State Of Man speech last year (speech transcript is included in my book Free Speech Isn’t Free):

It now takes hundreds of hours of game work and self-improvement work to enter a sexual relationship with a girl who is good looking. Did your dad have to put in a hundred hours to meet your mom? My dad had to take a shower every day. (Laughter and clapping.) Is that enough now? (No.) A shower every day… come on.

Using traditional behavior on women who are non-traditional may get you killed, and I do mean that in a literal sense if you consider all the men who commit suicide after getting divorce raped by modern wives they attempted to treat in a traditional manner. Even celebrities like Robin Williams, who hung himself because of a bad divorce, are not immune.

If I were to tell men right now not to use game and just be a traditional man like their grandfathers, I’d be sending them to their doom. It would be nothing short of betrayal. I’m sure many of you want to be traditional, as I do, but unless you hit the lottery and find a traditional girl in some conservative pocket of America who is immune from the negative influences around her, you’re stuck with women who have toxic progressive ideas in their minds that can only be screened, tamed, and managed with logical game application.

I’m not going to tell you right now to hit the nightclub, get drunk, and bring home a slut, but I will say that it is just about essential for you to have the ability to start conversations with women, maintain attraction, and steer female behavior in a focused way that ensures a successful relationship. Your father or grandfathers didn’t have to acquire these manually, and a lucky few of you reading right now possess natural talents or a favorable locale that allow you to skip out on game learning entirely, but most of you, like myself, need to be taught this knowledge.

My future game writing will focus on meeting girls who are less promiscuous than average and how to maintain relationships with them. Until we revert back to a traditional society, men are going to need game, and if they choose me as their teacher I will be blunt to them about their prospects. As much as we wish we can just be ourselves or be an honorable man, those days are long gone, meaning that today’s man needs game more than ever.

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Game has existed from time immemorial. Had different names (or no name at all), but, like psychology, sales, interpersonal dynamics, politics, etc. it will always be there. those that master Game (and the various subsets) will be more successful (however success is defined).

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“I really thought that banging a lot of girls was the answer to happiness, and now that I see it’s not, I can advise men on what I learned and how—after a period of necessary experience—game should be used more as a tool than a lifestye.”

I hear what you’re saying Roosh – and for any man to come to this correct conclusion he has to bang chicks for a while to get it out of his system. Pussy should be seen the same like beer: every man gets his fill then he goes home and throws up. Call it a necesarry rite of passage. But this is indeed a phase of life a man has to experience; at age 15 he cannot simply be told women will not bring him happiness. He has to experience not only the good moments i.e. orgasms, but also the bad moments – their hormonal driven behaviors, the pussy farts, the false acusations, etc. And when all of these good and bad experiences hit critical mass, it is only then when a man breaks through the propaganda he has been fed by his culture, media, parents and religious leaders: that women are not the key to happiness.

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Something I read the other day:
The bad man doesn’t learn from his experiences.
The good man does learn from his experiences.
The wise man learns from the experiences of others.

I am certainly not a wise man but a good one.
I don’t know a single person who learns from others mistakes as if it was his own. I don’t even think it’s possible. You would need a mad load of empathy for achieving this.

I’m blessed that I learned all women are the same when I was only 19 years old and my unicorn cheated on me. Then I saw how my sister cheated on her boyfriends. And my cousines cheated on their boyfriends. And finally I found out that my mother cheated on my father while they were married.
AWALT.
Hustle in the west,
fuck all the rest (of the world).
But don’t be stupid and wife up a hoe from SEA.
Need to sleep now for the upcoming debate at 3am CET.
Good night.

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Will you still talk about travel?

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That will probably see a sustained dip. I don’t travel nearly as much, but the Travel forum is active on rooshvforum.com.

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Careful, the forum is “Not for everyone” & you are subject to ban without warning for speaking your mind…

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He´s back.

Game applies to everything. Sometimes think of relationships like a stock market. It starts at 1000points. And starts inflating. The more it inflates the more dramatic will be the crash. So it goes up. Up. Up. If you don´t hammer it back down. It will go every time more up. Until the crash. Bam arguments. Yelling, etc. And it resets. And the bubble starts growing again. Your job is to keep the romance bubble stable. If it goes up. Let´s say you offer a flower. Next day criticize her for something ridiculous. She gives you shit. Correct her in the moment. Sluts are continuously trying to inflate the bubble.
Your job is to manage you girlfriend expectations. She´s your puppet. Do not let her get out of hand. Don´t let the bubble grow too big. Sometimes it grows too big. And when the bubble bursts. It´s a clusterfuck. And there´s nothing else to do. Sluts tend to inflate the bubble harder. You always need to bring it down. Conservative will also inflate it. But much slower.

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Good article Roosh and as I get older this is what I’m more interested in. I’ve run through my fair share of girls the past several years after getting into game and discovering RVF. I look forward to your future writings regarding gaming less promiscuous women and maintaining relationships with them.

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Roosh, Can we get a book on relationship game? Do you have any thought of writing this in the future?

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It will probably come, but I would do a disservice to the book if I write it now. Until then, I will touch on the topic.

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Game and Red Pill Knowledge led me to religion. And True Religion helped me improve my relationship game a lot.

It is easier to hold frame and pass shit tests when you have Purpose and accountability to a higher Being. The interest in truly helping my girlfriend become a better person helped me push through tough moments and make some serious decisions that I could not make If pleasure and comfort was my only goal.

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couldnt agree more.

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Finding a “higher being” doesn’t solve anything. What if you rebel against it?

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You can always read about game, understand its principles and ignore them. That does not make it less true or effective. It does not make it less real, nor it changes the consequences of your actions.

Your stance towards a higher being only affects yourself, by definition a Higher being is higher than you. You can always choose to be unhappy.

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..”You can always choose to be unhappy.””

Or choose not to be unhappy! Really it’s about us not external factors..

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Finding a “higher being” means accepting objective morality, unlike atheism with logically inherent subjective morality and moral relativism, leading to the retarded my-truth and your-truth nonsense we see in the West today.

There is no way you can logically “rebel” against objective morality, at worst you can disobey, but then every evil deed is despite belief in a higher being, not because of it. Atheism per se has no moral foundation whatsoever and you get the typically “*no one* shall tell me what to do!” yelling and screaming.

That’s also explains why atheists are distrusted as much as rapists.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-12-10/religion-atheism/51777612/1

Even atheists distrust their fellow atheists more than Christians. How pathetic is that?

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very well said

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completely agree. without accountability to a creator, people debase themselves to the lowest common denominator

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Yeah I think the whole breakdown of the west was because of rebellion against Christianity. Maybe I should start going back to church. I have a lot of liberal friends and even developed a few liberal views. Now I realize They are a miserable, lonely bunch.

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That is the fascinating thing about the manosphere and game. The PUA though maligned by so called good men,cuckservatives and “Christians” who by behavior and comment worship women. The PUA living in truth by default seem to in the end align with biblical principles. A PUA will grow past women while the “good men” never get past the worship of women and there actions have done more to destroy civilization than any foreign army.

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I think our grandfathers did have game and were required to do more than simply shower. Until recently, men were allowed to talk to women without being harassed. They had confidence back then. Feminists have given women the feeling of entitlement which has removed the ability for men to be confident.

Somewhat related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MVyQNNFobA

l'Américain
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Y’all, is the SJW attitude just one big shit test?

Like do chicks and cucks act like that to test the boundaries of what they can get away with?

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It’s just a misguided attempt by humans at seeking happiness.

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I never understood these people who got it into their minds that the purpose of life is happiness.

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Thank you for sharing your insights roosh, they’ve proved to be an immense help in navigating the new world.

I personally have not had any interest in pump and dump tactics since uni, but i have recognised how necessary it is to filter a woman with a view to long term pair bonding. I think any advice you provide will definitely be of help to us traditionalists that detest clown game and nightclub thots, but also don’t want to fall into old cucked religious conservativeness that has resulted in men being constantly sexually unsatisfied as they fuck their 30 something christian-wife missionary style bi annually as she reminisces about all the ‘it doesn’t count’ anal sex she had in her youth.

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It’s going to be a hard balance between degeneracy and traditionist behaviors. I don’t think we ever get to full-blown traditionalism, but we can do a better job screening for girls who have some of those traits.

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The best homely girls I’ve dated have been through Daygame. I’m really looking forward to some ‘relationship game’ advice because I haven’t had one since I was 25, I’m 30 now and would like a more serious relationship.

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Roosh, do you think that game can be used also with mens to improve self social status within a group of mens ?

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Definitely. I’ve gotten comments from men saying they read Day Bang not to meet girls but to improve their conversation skills.

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“1. Focus less on encouraging notch-building and “banging.” Building notches is not an effective long-term method to building your masculinity or confidence. For a time, however, I really thought that banging a lot of girls was the answer to happiness, and now that I see it’s not, I can advise men on what I learned and how—after a period of necessary experience—game should be used more as a tool than a lifestyle.”

All I can say is….FINALLY.

I almost got kicked off the board at one time for questioning the motivation of guys that had the single mined goal of sleeping with as many women as possible by constantly approaching women night after night…. day after day.

The truth is I never really believed that a guy would bang an 8 or 9 like they said and just drop her to go out cold approaching and maybe not even get a 6.

I questioned their claims of banging top notch women because who wouldn’t want to spend time enjoy the fruits of their labor by sleeping with a super hot chick (least a few weeks) instead of slugging through the bars and streets just to get something new that was most likely of a lesser quality.

I did find myself wondering if some of these guys were so socially inept or bad in bed that they couldn’t get a hot girl to sleep with them more than once.

So any advice you can give to guys (that can’t go from a one night stand to at least a mini relationship of at least a few weeks) is sorely needed.

Traditional game should be reserved for guys that have trouble getting quality women in bed in the first place.

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Game is simply sales. You are the product and you are simply convincing and persuading a woman to sleep with you or have relationship with you.

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PUA hedonism or SJW marxism can’t fix what’s broken. Naive adolescents will merely amplify this issue in the coming times.
Only those that follow functional (masculine and feminine) collaboration can heal the gender gap.

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As a fan of your writing, I’m so happy for your blooming relationship and excited to read all about relationship game. You’ve definitely come a long way since I began reading your blog, 2 years ago. Moreover, do you think learning about relationship game can have a negative impact on our relationships as women?

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Go away

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Not at all, especially if the point of such game from a man’s perspective is to strengthen the relationship and make it last.

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Roosh answered well… I’ll be more direct. It depends on what you term a “negative impact”. The problem is most women will see not being able to use their vagina as a way to manipulate a man as a “negative impact”.

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Roosh, looking forward to more of your take on relationship game. I’ve used Bang/Day Bang in mine and it has improved the relationship.

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Meaningless conquests are like any other drug, empty and selfish. Sex with someone you love is rewarding, fulfilling, and has a greater purpose. This concept is as old as time, but it takes some people longer than others to catch on. Where things get tricky is when you love someone, but eventually realize you are not the right fit for each other.

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Just as much… it’s important to realize that those feelings of love are incredibly powerful and as such can drive a man to do things which are not healthy for him or in his best interests. A man should only allow himself to have those feelings for someone who reciprocates… and if she doesn’t… get away ASAP. A man must be ever vigilant of this and ensure that he’s not putting himself in a bad spot. This goes ever more so for today seeing as how men are outrageously disadvantaged when it comes to the entire relationship arena

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Roosh, I’m happy with the way your views on sex are evolving but wish you started to see through the theater that the current elections are.

It’s off-topic but this article might help you (and others) in that direction.

Debate Underscores Fact Both Candidates Are Warfare State Advocates
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/debate-underscores-fact-candidates-warfare-state-advocates.html

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Clinton will appoint justices that will take away our guns. Trump won’t. That alone should make you vote Trump.

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I found this article to be both vibrant and culturally enriching.

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Good writing. I’m 32 & cannot stop approaching, getting numbers & meeting all kinds of girls. Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to have a feminine hottie…but these girls are the real players…

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Gaming your woman past initial close and lay and on into LTR is a necessity for maintaining the upper frame in the relationship and carries through every year of marriage. It’s not a chore to keep her subdued, not even with a so called BPD since the same management tricks work over and over again, though a BPD woman can be a time drain and a slip up in managing her can send her berserking naked or homicidal in public. Properly managed she’s a kitten like the rest.

PROPERLY MANAGING any woman is non specific, since with the LTR what management techniques work effectively depend on you two’z’z (or three’z’z) interpersonal chemistries.

NOTE even a perfect well bred and undamaged woman can be faulted if you dig and find fault with her. She’ll pull flaws out of her ass that didn’t exist prior if she’s not properly managed and gamed. Don’t try to find fault with her but concentrate on perfecting the game and management techniques on her until they become second nature and automatic.

YOUR DICK IS GOD to her and will remain so. Steer conversation with her seeking a point of zen where she compliments and caps your thoughts exactly like Ed Mcmahon & Johnny Carson (or Squeaky Fromme and Charles Manson lol). Reach a point where you can throw her into ‘happy gear’ at any time with a few gaming motions and words and where she’ll salivate for your dick on queue.

Gaming and managing a woman long term is like keeping any stabled and tamed animal safe and of service to you. With a woman it is keeping your thumb on her at all times. Sometimes it’s your thumb on her clitoris, sometimes it’s the thumb ‘Spock pinch’ on her neck when the hypergamy goes nuclear. But keep the controls on autopilot. Never let the controls completely loose.

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Great comments, when I first got married, my wife when we were arguing about something she would try and pull out some crap about my shortcomings! Over the years when she started that I told her to stop her shit test because I know your game and it does not work!. That along with keeping my hands and Johnson on her ass kept her off that path!

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Alina Kabayeva (to-be Putin?) is a very very talented and limber gem and specimin of femininity.

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Whoooah! Betty Ford, nope. Roselyn Carter, nope. Barbara bush, Eleanor roosevelt, Jackie Kennedy, Hillary, Michelle the cross-dresser . . . NONE OF THEM can catch that ball.

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Melania is the only (prospective) 1st lady that even comes close. Could Melania actually do that gymnastics move like Putin’s girl? Ivanka could . . maybe. I bet Melania is doing her mat exercises right now in the morning. Keeping up with the Putins is the new ‘space race’, beautifying the ‘space’ that opens up when shameful hambeasts fall to the wayside. Trends dictate both a resurgence of masculinity AND a concurrent decline of hambeastery is forecast. Women everywhere will soon begin sexying it up and packaging themselves for LTR service to patriarchs – and to at least try to match their national first lady. I have a crystal ball somewhere you know. Just have to find it but trust me I got it.

Melania is anxious to show other American women what she too can do.

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eeh . . well ok that’s not Melania but at least Melania has perfect eyebrows. Not since Julia Tyler have we seen a 1st lady who knew that eyebrow obscessing is something known only to women with a face worth keeping (or showing to the masses).
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Julia Tyler was actually a covergirl before she became 1st lady in 1844. She was known for her amazingly large and productive tatas. This was in an age before surgical enhancement. Julia was for real. Real working genes! Proof is in the puddin. Julia Tyler produced five Tyler sons and two Tyler daughters. That alone puts her a point above Melania. Be a real ultimate woman. Use ’em till you’re dry Melania.

Now I don’t know for certain if this next 1st lady is even a ‘lady’. I’m trying to compare her eyebrows to Melania’s/Julia’s but this sic(woman’s) eyebrows are harder to see than Hillary election signs around here. The deers must have chewed the signposts. Hmm where’s the eyebrows? I need to up my reading glasses again. Shit.

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Holy shit I just had a flashback. That’s my old elementary school lunch lady. My bad.