How Culture Shapes Game (Using Colombia As An Example)

The most optimal game depends on two things: the nature of the women and the culture they reside in. But since women are deeply affected by culture, we can say that it’s really culture that determines the type of game you need to use.

Once you understand the culture, you can devise a game that works in that culture (and that culture alone). Some pieces of game can be shifted around, but not all. For example cocky game works great in the United States, but less so in Colombia. It is more effective in Argentina, but not as much in Brazil. Why is that?

Cocky game was made for confident girls. Since American girls are much more confident, we’d expect it to have a strong effect. On the other hand the girls of Colombia and Brazil are rather needy and insecure. Cocky game is too hard for them, and therefore should be used sparingly, if at all (anything past light teasing will decrease attraction instead of increasing it). The girls of Argentina think they’re European, and with that comes an increase in confidence where you’d see more utility with the cocky vibe.

Instead of throwing yourself into the fire and trying a bunch of random things in a new country, it’s wiser to understand facets of how that culture works and then work your way backwards. Let’s do that with Colombia, which has two main cultural differences that greatly affect how you play the game.

1. Cell Phone Use. Charges are borne on those making the call, not receiving them, so everyone there answers their phone. No one wants to have to call the person back because making calls is very expensive (40 cents a minute). No one leaves a voicemail, and if you leave one it’s a guarantee it won’t be checked promptly. Text messaging is also comparatively expensive, and not frequently used by those who aren’t Americanized. Service is not as reliable and messages can arrive hours late.

Most people never make calls with their cell phone. They go to independent minuto celular vendors located on most street corners to make calls at a cheap rate, usually because they have empty balances on their cell phone and can only receive calls. They are also very slow to recharge their balance. Every time someone calls you it will probably be from a new number, so therefore there is no call screening in Colombia. Girls answer their phone most of the time when you call.

Optimal Game: When you get a girl’s phone number, do not text message her and do not leave voicemails. Call her in 2-4 days and if she doesn’t answer then the correct play is to keep calling back once a day. Leaving a text message may not get a response if she has no money in her balance so setting dates via text is not advised. If she’s not answering it’s because she’s genuinely busy, not because she is screening, since the strange number could be her cousin for all she knows.

Interesting Twist: Email game plays here. I’ve set dates with email relatively easily. MSN Messenger is also popular, but it’s a rather time-consuming way to set a date and I avoid it since you both have to catch each other online at the same time.

2. Family. Family is the most important part of Colombian life. Every girl lives at home with her parents, and they require details of her social life (including potential suitors). Even if she’s in her 20’s, she needs permission to go out. It’ll be common for one of her parents to call her during your date. She also has a curfew which means she cannot stay out late. You usually don’t have enough time to take her out and then return to your love dungeon for a lengthy bedroom seduction.

Optimal Game: The home dinner date. It’s the most reliable way of getting a girl into your house and boozed up in a short amount of time. Be sure to cook a light meal without a lot of grease so the alcohol absorbs properly (I recommend a basic chicken stir-fry with rice). Since you don’t have to move locations, you can bang her without going over her curfew. You generally can’t do two dinner dates in a row so only use it when you’re at least 50% certain she’s ready to bang (preferably after you’ve made out with her). I’ve done more dinner dates in Colombia in six months than in the United States the previous five years.

Interesting Twist: If you have a poor girl on your hands, she may ask you for taxi money back home.

A third dimension which I’ll just briefly mention is social circle. There is no nighttime pick-up culture in Colombia as girls hang out in huge mixed-set groups, so the optimal game will involve more daytime approaches at malls and universities.

I’m tempted to add Catholicism. Brainwashing from the church causes girls here to give robust resistance in the bedroom, but since the optimal game remains the same (persistence) there really is no need to describe it in-depth.

If you just understand the cell phone and family differences in Colombia, you’ll be well ahead of other gringos in banging the girls there. There are others which I will discuss in the future, but these two are the most important.

When you want to bang abroad, you’ll save yourself a lot of grief if you step back and see how the culture functions. How is the belief system different? What are some common things you see differently from your own country? What are the personalities and behaviors of guys who have the hot women? Then devise a few tactics that may be more suitable for your new environment and try them out.

But how about if you don’t have enough time in your visit to study cultural nuances and just want to get your flag? Then throw efficiency out the window and approach like a machine with the game you know. And hope for best.

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great article, can you give a similar one for Rio or Sao paolo?

best.

My personal experience in French canada, is that feminism is strong here so you gotta be VERY COCKY!

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Solid Data sheet.

I agree, every country has its nuances of Game.

Dominican Republic, for instance, there is no need for cocky Game.

Sounds like a lot of the cell phone issues in Colombia actually work to your advantage.

Lately, I have been kicking it old-school when traveling. No cell phone. More Artistic.

Great line:

“I’ve done more dinner dates in Colombia in six months than in the United States the previous five years.”

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I hate Catholicism. Grew up with that bullshit, it was a real pain to detox myself.

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In San Francisco we call it “Bruce Lee” GAME…..Adjusting your style to fit any “challenger”…..thanks for the tips Roosh.

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““Bruce Lee” GAME…..Adjusting your style to fit any “challenger””

I like that one.

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Cinque Powell
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Legit post. Ill info regarding cell phones.

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Thanks for this great christmas present, Roosh! I really appreciate this, as in two weeks i’m gonna be in Medellin.

btw. I read your book. Took me two days, it was so damn hooking. My other options were Hemingway and a school book about tourism industry and they were left completely untouched before I finished ADBIP. And as a disclaimer for you people reading this comment; I am not a “roosh fanboy” – there are many things that i dont agree with him and sometimes his views almost make me angry but that just tells me that he’s a good writer as he’s able to rouse feelings.

I really liked the book because it gave advice on travel and getting girls in the sack, but that was not the main point. Your writing was also very honest. The downside was that not all the time something interesting happened (I kinda got a bit bored at the Chile section) and the toilet humour was kinda low, but these were only minor flaws. I got very excited as reading about your Cordoba gaming and really felt for you in the Rio de Janeiro episode.

Also, you were honest with your initial intentions and plans and how they changed, how you changed and how you perceived the traveller culture around you. I could agree with you on many things here and liked how you made witty remarks about people looking for authenticity and a higher meainng.. The book also revealed a new side of you, a more sensitive one. The side that we already knew about, the sarcastic and witty, was there as well, of course. Self criticism is a good trait..

“The lie was so
good even I believed it. I liked Sofia more all along. We were always at
war with Eastasia, not Eurasia.”

Absolutely my favourite one.

Thanks for a great read!

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apt post.
i live/work in Argentina and this can be brutal to tackle.
it’s a constant experiment. it’s like “bang” turned inside out.

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Quite enjoyed that post Roosh. Insightful. Whilst I lived in Spain for a year, I noticed lots of Spanish women were very westernised and not what you would exactly call ‘latina.’ It’s interesting to see how game differs accross cultures. Hopefully I will experience this first hand when I go to Colombia next year marica!