How Foreign Women View Western Men For Relationships

I hope I have debunked the fantasy that a man can fly into any foreign country and easily find his dream girl within a short amount of time. The reality is that meeting foreign women can be just as laborious as meeting women in your own country, and that’s not including the monetary cost of travel. The rewards are far greater, of course, but traveling to an unknown land to develop a sexual and emotional connection with a woman who shares a completely different culture than you is no easy task, and should not be viewed as such.

It doesn’t help our cause that foreign women view us as a less worthy long-term partner than a local man. You may be wondering how can that be, with countless stories of mail-order brides and international couples meeting on the internet, but there are several points to consider.

A foreign girl in her prime can get top local guys

There is no need for a hot 21-year-old Russian girl to pursue a long-term relationship with an American man who doesn’t speak Russian, doesn’t have local connections, and doesn’t have any long-term roots instead of dating a high-value Russian man that she can easily get. Even in the poorest countries of the world, the most beautiful women have multiple strong options, and when you get into the 8 and 9 range, you will find it quite challenging to maintain a relationship with her since she has so many high-value local men in her orbit.

Let’s do an example. Say that you studied Spanish in high school and later as an adult met a Colombian girl who moved to your city. She speaks no English. She is quite pretty, but not higher than what you can normally get. You begin dating her and appreciate her feminine qualities and exotic nature, but local girls above her beauty range still give you tons of attention, while the emotional connection with the Colombian is stunted because of not being able to communicate properly with her. How long will you date the Colombian for the novelty factor before easing back into your previous routine?

Purely sexual relationships are easy to create but hard to maintain

It’s not that difficult to have sex with a foreign girl who happens to be interested in foreign men. If she’s never met an American man before, and you approach her with good game, she may put out for you much faster than the local guy. This sexual experience will be very valuable to her, but then the reality of the situation will hit: a relationship with a foreign guy isn’t that great. He’s isolated from the local scene and probably doesn’t have a car or other badges of high value. He doesn’t have a local sense of humor, doesn’t share an interest in local movies and music, and doesn’t have much going on besides having a job, a fact that is less important since her standard of living is ever increasing.

Even worse, speaking in English all the time is tiring. A girl wants a relaxing or exciting relationship, not one where she has to exert her brain, and if the girl is pretty enough, she can get a guy on your level who not only is from her culture, but speaks the language and has more local “perks” that add weight to the relationship. Therefore it’s very rare that relationships in my experience last more than two months with a high-value young girl. She will fuck my brains out for that time and then move on to something more suitable for her needs.

Lower value foreign girls are more willing to pursue relationships

If I’m an 8 out of 10 in a foreign country and date a young girl who is also an 8, the relationship won’t last long. She’ll get tired or bored and move on to easily date a local guy. But the lower value a girl is (e.g. a 6), the more likely she will try to lock me down. The reason for this is simple: she can not get a local guy in the 8 range, so I am the best she’s ever likely to get. The fact that I’m not local is a lower concern than the fact that I’m the highest value she can land based on her lower beauty level.

If you have low or modest standards, establishing a relationship with foreign girls can be quite easy and pleasurable. She will see you as a long-term partner and not get bored after a month or two. She won’t stray or give you bullshit. She may even start to increase her English studies to prepare for a lifelong partnership with you. Let that sink in for a second: she’s ready to throw her own language and culture under the bus to be with a man who is the highest in value she’s been able to get.

Slightly older women have given up on local men

Another potential avenue in your search are women who are 25 and older. If a woman in a place like Eastern Europe or South America is single at this age, she is becoming desperate for a man and wants to secure the highest value she can. Even if she was a 9 in her youth, she will now be accessible to the foreign man for a long-term relationship, simply because she has failed with the local men due to being deficient in some way.

The 8 or 9 who wouldn’t want a relationship with you when she was 21 and getting tons of attention from local men will now strongly consider marrying you at 28 when all that attention has dried up and you are her best option (does that strategy sound familiar to you?). Unfortunately for me, I do not enjoy the company of women over 25, so I try to limit my dealings with them, but this would be a target pool to select from especially since they’re done fucking around and desperately want to start a family. As long as you don’t mind being cock number twenty while having to wait for sex much longer than the sexy Spanish man she met during her last trip to Majorca, she’s all yours.

Conclusion

When it comes to my dealings with foreign women, I follow this prescription:

If a girl is high value (young and very beautiful), extract as many instances of sex from her as possible and enjoy the ride.

The reason is because I know I won’t be able to hold onto her for more than a couple months before she starts to crave a local guy. If she wants to try to lock me down, she can, and I wouldn’t mind a mini-relationship with her, but she has so many options from a respectful local pool that I am satisfied at only having the short-term sexual rewards, especially at my advanced age.

If a girl is merely cute or pretty, I could pursue a relationship knowing that I could definitely fuck better, but possibly not maintain a relationship with better, simply due to the fact that my value as a foreign guy has limitations that aren’t an issue in my home country.

In the end, it’s important to be realistic. Just like how I’ve stated that getting foreign women can entail a lot of work, we have to also understand that we won’t be able to easily wife up the best of what any country has to offer. I’m not upset at this for two reasons: (1) I’m not willing to put the additional work in raising my local value to keep the highest quality girls, and (2) The quality I’m able to get for medium-term relationships is solid even if it’s not the absolute top, and going higher would not bring me a large increase in happiness or satisfaction due to passing the point of diminishing return.

If there’s anything I’ve learned through living abroad for over five years, it’s that beautiful women everywhere—even in dirt poor countries—have options. They don’t have the immediate need to throw themselves on a sexy Westerner who has a marginal backstory that doesn’t include permanent local roots. But thankfully, foreign women are almost always better than American women, so I’m definitely not losing any sleep at the problems that my international pursuits contain.

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Here’s another point to keep in mind – the older foreign single girls believe that love tourists are low SMV on their home turf. I was in South America last summer and two Couchsurfing early 30s girls (still 7s) gave me a long shit test about this very issue.
What was ironic is that night, the darker-skinned one ended up banging a balding nerdy Israeli guy with extremely mushy body language and who kept singing to her.
In Latin America, skin color matters. The local men are mostly momma’s boys and often undervalue the looks of darker-skinned girls cuz they have the White Goddess thing going, and momma doesn’t want dusky grandkids.

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You mention ‘nerdy’, but that is ‘in’ these days, even for short term sex, as it triggers the woman’s ‘I’m the best he’ll ever have’/narcissism response. I’d like to think most women were banging threatening bad boys, but they just will bang some dude who pretends to be as such, never going for the real deal. Its because the women themselves are mediocre, going for style over substance – which is why the west and other industrialised nations are increasingly becoming dung heaps where the birth rate of indegous populations is plummeting. Feminism and female entitlement are worldwide, with the inevitable bad consequences. All whilst the banker laughs at us.

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true that, even western born guys going back to the motherland this day and age to get arrange marriages get the same perception from local women….they kinda look down on us,even if we are full blooded and native to the region. And believe me they get a shit ton of suitors,especially since they are literally more men then women in those regions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

year by year these poor countries are improving and they care less and less for foreigners like say back in the 80s.

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it doesnt help either as they watch the western world go into decline, be it debt,disfunctionality and morality.

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Takeaways:
1. Target smaller countries helps because the language/culture is smaller and more disposable.
2. Look for foreigners teaching (or extremely interested in) the english language
3. Try and nail as many 11’s as possible, then marry a 7.5

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I honestly would’ve thought the 7.5 has had too much alpha cock, whilst many 8s and 9s have had less as many men were intimidated by them, and the beautiful ones have less to prove. At least that’s been my observation. Besides, I am hardcore Christian and I would not marry the way it is these days – I don’t need a state based contract, just an ecclesiastical ceremony, if even that. And there are next to zero marriageable girls – even the ones with low n counts are messed in the head by the culture. I’m not marrying any of the millions of 7.5/10 sluts out there.

If you ever do find a girl who is LTR for life (the new marriage), you take her out of the poisonous culture and set up shop somewhere quieter and less modernised.

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You own the roosh v comment section bro

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Marriage is foll fools. Always rent; never buy. MGTOW

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When it comes to my dealings with foreign women, I follow this prescription:

If a girl is high value (young and very beautiful), extract as many instances of sex from her as possible and enjoy the ride.

Roosh, are you implying that your advice regarding compatriots would differ? How?

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I guess it wouldn’t differ, but I put that there because some guys may think they will wife up a 21 year old beauty easily.

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I think the long term outcome of what you say is a world where most women and most men use each other but lose power because of it, yet what you say is also true. Women’s real power is in youth, beauty and sex, and family only. Not in working corporate-state jobs that ironically, disempower so many others and keep third world countries in bondage through debt etc, whilst the female hypocrites harp on about helping the third world or people’s ‘rights’.

They are soon to swallow their own medicine.

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Roosh
What do you reccomended aging mid-low value guys do to raise their value or after a certain age is that not realistic for pulling higher quality foreign or local girls?

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Diet, exercise & save your money are the 3 things that will serve your needs best.

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I agree with that assessment. Actually in those countries where I have not been able to pass off as a local an 8-9 was always moving on fast, while a 6-7 I banged was still DTF years later when single.

The only thing I was able to perceive is that your status as a foreigner makes it easier to bang most girls. You haven an automatic an exotic value. While that is also the case in the US – of course only if you are from a “cool” country – it’s even more of a value-demonstrator for the Foreigner in EE. That value however is mainly useful in short-term r-selected seduction and sex. As long as you don’t mind being their “youthful indiscretion” then it’s all fine. Trying to shift her into a relationship is another matter altogether.

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Fuck trying to shift women into relationships – if she has any kind of ho potential, then like 99% of women she deserves no effort for LTR; the trying to ease women into relationship thing is a western magnification trick by people to get men weaker and get men to pay for things they don’t need.
Men are fucked up from this kind of thinking. Most western women are made into sluts as per the culture, so when they get shit upon, its usually because they are nothing but programmed slutified zombies, like most men are also zombies in their own way.

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Spot on analysis, Roosh.

A couple years back, I had a 29 year old Russian chick (body was a rock solid 9, face was a 6) ready to pack up and swim to the USA to get married, shit out kids, etc. with me. Nyet.

This chick couldn’t/wouldn’t settle down with the locals and was trying to lock me down after date number 2, when we first fucked. We banged for a couple weeks, then it was done.

Also, I do find that there is still cache in being American in most of the countries I’ve been to, especially if it’s used in the right situations.

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I have never been to a country where being American would be viewed as a net negative.

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Fixable typ-o above:
“Let that sink in for a second: she’s ready to throw her own language and culture under the bus to be with a who that is the highest in value she’s been able to get.”

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When she gets to America, the first thing she will do is connect with her own people. She will buy and cook HER food, rent movies from HER country, attend parties with HER people, pressure you to let her go home often, send money back to HER family, pressure you to sponsor her mother, sisters, pay tuition for her nieces and nephews, etc. No thank you!

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This only continues as long as the US economy continues to make Americans wealthy – as this ends, opinions may change.

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Yes, also foreigners tend to ONLY hear the positive propaganda about America. So of course they think it’s great. In my dealings with foreigners, they invariably think the typical American girl is thin, cute, and fun, that our economy is the best in the world, that we make great products, and that we live in a free nation.

They are exposed to a lot of lies and never to any of the negative facts about the USA, so they have a distorted viewpoint. I believe Hollywood is the only industry (other than weaponry that kills and maims) that the USA is dominant in, and of course all our movie stars, and most of the characters they play are rich, beautiful, happy, etc.

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This is an all-too-real point.
I chat with chicks online & often read this “But…America girls so beautiful”
(Imagine the stunned/shocked/disgusted look on my face)

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Don’t let them know that American women are such ridiculous cattle. Let them think the hotties from Topeka are just waiting for you when you go back home. In her mind, she’s competing for you with Scarlett Johanssen’s sister. It can only help your cause. I’ve heard the same things overseas. American women are all Kate Upton types.

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Exactly. I am from Russia but I spent a lot of time living in the US. When I returned to Russia people kept asking me about America. I told them that Russia is much better and to stay out of the West in general. Apparently that was not what many of them wanted to hear and they called me foolish or stupid, or said that I just haven’t spent enough time in Russia or something like that. People in other countries have a very propagandized perception of the United States.

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I have a friend from Russia who lives in the States. I ask him all the time why he loves it here so much. He says you can make more money in the US, it’s easier to have your own business. He seems to work all the time, has an average house and car, is in his second or third marriage.. I dunno maybe he’s happy.

I also grew up with 3 brothers from Vietnam. They all work in the fingernail industry. They work 6 days a week, until 7 PM at night, past dark. The only day they have off is Sunday, when they will typically throw a party. They have nice houses and cars, and only date/marry other Asians. But I can’t help but wonder how much worse could life have been back in Vietnam? I can’t see working on an Americunt’s smelly toenail as being much worse than whatever factory job you could get over there. I mean here they are working 6 days a week and slaving away just to get 52 days a year they can enjoy. Even if the one that owns his own nail salon pulls in 6 figures, how could that be worth it? To mention nothing about the shit society they will raise their kids in.

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Great point. They think they’ll be happy when they retire at 65. That’s the script that American/ western society sells and if everyone’s buying it then it takes a strong soul to question it. I see tons of Vietnamese guys watching my videos in Vietnam and writing stuff like “dreaming from my cubicle in California”. WTF

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A true internationalist. I passed up a job offer in Saint Petersberg a few years back. No offense, but my impression of Russia was drugs, corruption, a people who hated Americans on sight, and the infamous Russian mafia. Any truth there?

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Maybe some anti-Americanism from some people due to the recent stand off in Ukraine, but I myself have not run into any drugs or corruption or the Russian mafia.

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Because you’re a rich Lil pretty boy that is rich and does not live in poverty. Fucking trash god damn I hope you die or at least lost all your money fucking Russian trash.

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Russia is crap in comparison to the United States. There’s a reason they have a declining population.

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Fucking communist trash, like to take my guns and rape your dumb ass

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Technology, and but a very large margin.

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Obviously the US has a glamorized perception in a lot of places but claiming “hollywood” and “military” as its only dominant industries is just delusional, which is ironic given what you’re claiming. It is a huge player in knowledge and technology related industries, including energy, pharmaceuticals and high-tech manufacturing.

Entertainment and especially music is sexy, and people listen to american music everywhere. People emotionally connect to entertainment and it makes english speakers cooler by association.

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I mean yeah, if you include “valuable” firms such as google and facebook, yeah USA dominates in those fields too. They are glorified advertising agencies, but sure.

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LOL, if I was an immigrant to America, boy would I be disappointed, probably think of every women looks like young britney pears or geneive rodriguez,a nd then tcome to see nothing but land whales and fanny pack fat asses.

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well many of them try to save face about it, but theyll look down on it.

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….not even in Toronto-?

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Italy here. I avoid American women who are tourists here. Too much feminism.
Swedish are even worse, but I have experience with them (I lived in Sweden for 3.5 years) and, frankly, they are far more beautiful…

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well not to your face not to start an argument.

they dont look at americans with a sense of high morality

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its not a negative but women don’t take me seriously
Often I get pegged as a “sex tourist” even as i live abroad 6 months a year

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Western culture has infiltrated even many parts of India and 3rd world countries, not to mention that we western men are indoctrinated into the cult of poosy worship, based on promises of rewards that rarely materialise outside of a quick fuck, if even that. Many religions predicted the current state of our planet. And as for men, trying to lead a moral and Godly life was what led to civilisation – the opposite of that, banksterism and feminism leads to death. What options does a western man have outside of random fucking, as his females and the state will dispossess him of his children and his pay check, rendering him a slave, if not in so many other ways? We can see by the economy etc that this way of things is soon to end in hell on earth. I don’t say enjoy the decline, as how can you enjoy declining rewards for increased investment, knowing it will all end horribly for so many people? Holding onto any kind of money to feed and home yourself will get harder with time, as this feminazi system collapses.

Fuck the system.
Fuck those women who feed it.
Never forget the importance of questioning for truth.

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In any country in SEA , philippines , cambodia , laos , indonesia ,vietnam etc you can bang 9s all day long and they wont care about the language barrier , if there even is one . You will have more than you can handle with almost zero effort . At least thats my experience . Same applied when I was in Africa ,only difference is that the women were out of control sexually and aggressive as hell. Cant comment about South America coz I never been there .

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Nope and nope.

Banging 9s in SEA is close to impossible for foreigners. First of all, almost all guys vastly overestimate how good their new gf looks. She is more often than not a 4-6 who they think is a 7-9. The reason for this is she is slim, feminine and tanned. Every girl is slim and feminine in these countries. Seriously, ask anyone who’ve lived there for a while, most foreigners hook up with dogs, butterfaces and semi-whores.

Most 8+ in Thailand, Vietnam etc wouldn’t be caught dead with a foreigner for fear of being thought a whore (literally a prostitute).

You also fail to understand that as Roosh writes, in these poor countries, there is a lot of poor people and a very rich and very connected upper class. These guys drive Ferraris and act with utter contempt for anyone else, know everyone who matters. There is nothing better in the world than being born rich in an Asian country. They have multiple mistresses on tap, a first wife and a first mistress, go to karaoke palaces and hire 20 hot young things. For most of the girls they bang, they will be considered damaged goods if they’ve been with a foreigner.

Your best bet for a 9 is to get the odd hot farm girl who has dark skin and therefore not considered desirable. Even then, you should know the language and culture to snatch her before she decides to join some other racket, often prostitution aimed at locals or working as a ‘pretty’ at car shows and the like, which often also ends up with prostitution.

Don’t get me wrong, there are tons of hot, tanned, young and feminine 7-8s available with some effort, but they’re not considered 8 or 9s by local standards.

I don’t see why that is a problem though. I couldnt care less about skin color for short term relationships. As for the mother of my children, that’s a different story. So the best bet is just accept your place in the niche and bang those tanned farm girls.

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This is literally bullshit. From front to end. 8+ and 9+ in vietnam cannot even find a man who isn’t a drunk.

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As a 47 old who looks mid 30s, I’ll take a 29yr old EE hot tie over a fattening American of same age any day when it comes time to settle and have family.

And with the U S going the way it is, relocation isn’t such a bad option, even if the place is fuk’d up. (But moving forward)

Working social circle in this instance is key and when coupled with entrepreneurial work habits will enhance your value in a major way. Powerful local allies are key. …

I know a bunch of guys who left UK and Canada and did this in Croatia. They have pretty good lives now.

It’s not for the faint of heart…

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It’s better than the US, but many of those EE hotties whilst thin and feminine are still head cases who are no good for long term relationships. US-style feminism is worldwide now due to TV and rising living standards. Still, for a western man, EE can be paradise compared to his daily grind, if ONLY he knew how badly he was getting fucked over.

The only way to discover is to travel abroad and see if it really is all true, you only have one life to live, so it needs to be one where you live it in a way that is right.

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That’s a fact. See the world, the rest will unfold as nescessay.

EE ruined me for the states. Just wish I had known then what I know now.

But it ain’t over yet.

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First ask yourself this – why are they thin and feminine? Because they know otherwise no one is going to care about them. In EE and maybe the mediterranean countries mariage is still highly valued. Nothing like the US or Scandinavia.

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you have to figure out the family situation. I’ve met EE women who are beautiful but late 20s and still single. no surprise that their fathers weren’t in the picture.

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“It’s better than the US, but many of those EE hotties whilst thin and feminine are still head cases who are no good for long term relationships. US-style feminism is worldwide now due to TV and rising living standards. Still, for a western man, EE can be paradise compared to his daily grind, if ONLY he knew how badly he was getting fucked over.”

So true. Smartphones are everywhere in the hands of females. That is a bad sign right there.

Maybe several decades ago americans were considered something exotic, but with our glaobale viallage the planet has become (internet, slcial media, etc) you can forget it.

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I don’t understand what this guy’s hang-ups are with women that are 25-29. There is a lot of high quality in that age window.

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Don’t fool yourself. If there’s that much quality…why are they single at that age? Most of them are deficient physically or mentally or both. You might not notice it right away but there is something there.

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Brother, they’re all mentally deficient. We just look past it when they’re younger & hotter.

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True. They all are to a certain degree. But single females in that age range (late twenties early thirties) have some serious issues. If you want to lock down a woman get her young; teens to max. 24 years of age. There is still some molding possibilities here. Women 25 and above generally are damaged goods and set in their ways. The fact that they’re single at that age tells you a lot about their personalities:
selfish
opportunistic
careerist
individualistic
depressed
and therefor aren’t capable of being good and productive wives and mothers. Healthy family minded females from healthy intact homes marry early.

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In my experience, more and more women around the world, especially those going to college, are holding off on shooting out as many kids as they can by the age of 18. They know that a woman’s vagina is not barren by the age of 25.
That being said, younger always looks better. No denying that.

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That’s my experience also. The question is…why? It definitely isn’t natrual to do so. So what is triggering this unnatural respons? Why do so many younger females prefer a boss over a husband, a paycheck over children, friends over family?

P.s. they aren’t only ‘holding off’, many women aren’t breeding at all, and if they do only 1 and max. 2.

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I don;t believe this idea that goes around the Manosphere that women are barren by their late twenties. They can still have children. I think the more pressing problem is the attitude that comes with this delay.

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Is that an idea that goes around? I think the point is; the longer a female delays having kids (within a heatlhy situation i.e. marriage) the smaller the window of opportunity (getting pregnant after 35 isn’t advisable to say the least). So, while women in the past had a window of approx. 20 years, now its less than a decade. Another problem that is occuring in the West is the fact that women that are the least fit for motherhood are the ones that have the most kids.

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Maybe not their late twenties, but I have heard several men quip that a woman will have difficulty conceiving in her thirties. In my own experience, I have known a shitload of women who got knocked up in their thirties. Quite a few in their early forties as well. Proceed with caution is my only point.

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The “fertility” debate is a laughable & meaningless one.

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I’ll take the one that doesn’t wana breed at all, thanks. (But loves the practice)

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Women are realising how full of lust men are. Why be with a man that is going to want to fuck every decent looking woman when instead you can be independent and tease men, watching them drool then have a good laugh at their horney expense. Men give their power away when they lust after a woman without being able to comlete the physcial part of sex . Women get the power from the emotion, lust.
Women need to feel special, what about a man wanting sex with every attractive woman makes her feel so special when he comes to her wanting her to meet his sexual needs?
She can make herself feel special by being able to treat herself to spa treatments, new clothes, etc. And still have all the desire men give to her by lusting and flirting, because shes young and attractive ,without having to settle for a man who will not only misunderstand her different needs and emotions but harm her by not understanding.
Forgive the grammtical errors this is typed from my mobile.

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At that age they often have the “thousand cock stare “

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A single high quality girl at 25-29, more like just some alpha’s left over. That is why the will say must be honest, must commit, or some other bullshit implying they were cheated on.

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Sweet Fancy Moses. Get rid of the photo for this post.

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If you pipe-line, you can easily weed-out a lot of the hurdles mentioned above here & still realistically spend your time with one very nice girl or a variety of girls if you prefer. I know this, because I do it all of the time & I am pretty happy with my current system.

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“Let that sink in for a second: she’s ready to throw her own language and culture under the bus to be with a who that is the highest in value she’s been able to get.”

But isn’t this, in a sense, what we’re being advised to do? Throw our language and culture under the bus and go east / SEA because the highest value we can get here. ..well…sucks?

What about the rates of alcoholism and bs corruption in EE. Is a girl to be branded traitor to her culture because she takes up with a westerner who can mean a way out of that, either through immigration or if a say western man makes a go of it in her country?

No disrespect to roosh, who brings huge value and wisdom to our community. Just thought I was seeing a bit of a double standard.

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Big Daddy R. I think you are discounting the American marketing machine and the fact that coming to America is still very glamorous and still holds the status of “promised land” to so many foreigners.

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Perhaps but girls find very early in their dealings with me that I dislike America and am not going back.

The glamour is going down because America is coming to them. Many girls tell me now they just want to visit NYC and LA, but not live there.

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Wow, this post couldn’t have come at a more timely moment for me.

After years of reading Roosh, I finally started traveling this year and met a foreign 23 year old 8 – 8.5 while on my travels and successfully bedded her.

I’m now back in the US trying to Skype my way into keeping the momentum before I fly back in a few weeks to continue what I started. This post is helpful to realize that she has bountiful options and I need to keep my game sharp, but she is willing to spend upwards of 2 hours Skyping with me as we practice each others’ language and flirt heavily. She also texts me at least once or twice a day.

As she’s 23, hot, and European, I’m looking to cash out and lock her down if possible, I admit. I hope to play good intercontinental clown game and keep the embers burning hot enough to sustain momentum. I guess I’ll just have to see.

In any case, thanks Roosh for the lifestyle advice and great posts throughout the years. I can’t help but think it’s a very small minority of men who actually go out and live these kinds of experiences, but for those of us who do, it’s incredibly rewarding to read the musings of a fellow man who has tasted the ambrosia as well. All the best to you.

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totally agree on the first bit, if shes top tier and she aint above 25, shes already locked down the best local guy. Plus keep in mind women tend to perfer to stick with their own men. Plus local tradtional men tend to stay away from women 25 and up. Everytime I see an older girl from my community marry or others(from other ethnic communities) for that matter its usually to a white western guy that doesnt care.Her traditional men expect youth,while the white western guys dont.

Yes womens hypergamy will always trump exoticness and they are lazy by nature too, if she knows if she can get similar with less work. If you are high value(in the girls country) then the girl will change for you like that american girl with Tsarniov, whom demonstrated value by being dominate. In other places,you better be famous,rich and powerful.

This is a good hard and cold analysis, that seems to line up to what Ive noticed.
When you go overseas the best one can hope for is a young 7 really. you might get a slutty 8 or 9, but she will be used by local men too and try and con you into ltring her up,since no one else would. Like Ive heard of foolish men from the west like uk usa and canada(among others) trying support their undercover thai whores whom they think are good girls….and others dumb enough to marry them.

Like Ive heard and seen of men losing their brides even from arrange marriages right when they get the green card(india and iran so far). And plenty of fillipino women taking their white husbands out when they get to bring their families….and they are full of them at my dads work. It was shocking to me,since they seem like the best wives a man could ask for.

After hearing this and seeing men on tv get screwed over(he got a 2min segment while the 2 white women got the rest of the hour), I think its best to chase after women from developed countries that arent feminized or westernised heavily. Like Japan,kora,taiwan,macau,china east,hong kong,singapore,malaysia,chile,cuba,argentina,urban south africa and europe. Even western europe(non britian) at least the women there are at least slim and are cool with confident betas that arent alpha clowns. The only draw back is that they are promiscious. Though that can be reduced when you go further south or east on the continent.
Looking forward to mexico,uruguay and panama becoming first world in 10 years.

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worth trhowing out there, from this indian-british comedy says what many non white or western say.
Basically once they marry white they start acting white and lose all tradions

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another point worth throwing in, they see us as a meal ticket ready to be hustled so they play on their act when we make our moves.
plus they see us of having lower standards, as you kinda mentioned. Like if shes a non virgin, not traditional like western influenced, older,she sees you as way to get away from her traditional life and expectations.Like her chance to act like a white girl and get away with it.
We are seen as freedom and tolerance. Her own country men wont touch her so theyll try and play us, women are cunning, but foreign girls especially from 2nd and 3rd world nations are down right conniving hustlers.

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the best analogy I can give for these types of women, is that we are willing to pay double for a half eaten burger just because the ingredients are exotic and tastes alil better.

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http://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-daily-news/news/7726927/Family-violence-death-toll-revealed

this guy just pulled a master stroke with his fame social circle game. I dont see a negative with her unless shes really been around but i doubt it.
I wonder how many other foreigners have pulled similar success.

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An athletic type South American girl with a ‘6’ face would be the perfect wife, I think. Then you have 2-3 decades of a healthy female body, full hips, great legs. Faces get old anyway. Fuck faces. Get those healthy hips. Find an insecure 6 face with a 9 body who is addicting to squatting and working out. Buy her some bolt-ons when the time come. That’s your best bet in life. They grew up in the land of beauty with a normal face and they will always have a touch of insecurity.

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(does that strategy sound familiar to you?). LOL cracked me up !
I guess the situation is pretty much the same BUT abroad the situation is bearable
because of the subtle difference in women here and there:
Here, women radiate coldness, indiference and hostility, even if they like you. There, they radiate warmth and interest, even if they are not really into you.
That difference alone is enough for me.
Also, you cant compare the 25-28 year old there who is now ready to get off the caurosel, to the 35-40 year olds here.
One bought a single ticket, the other had a daypass package.

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It’s interesting that all your points would also apply to interracial dating.

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Black guys pursuing white girls?

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That, or any other combo, really… change “foreign” to “other-race” and “local” to “same-race” and very similar phenomena apply.

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Ultimately, you have to be willing and able to expatriate, learn the local language and absorb the culture. I did just that and it was the best move of my life.

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Hi Roosh, I would like to get your thoughts on how dating Foreign Women in Europe if it has change for other reason then just the influence of Americanism and feminism?

I was thinking things like the conflict in Ukraine and the problems with the EU.

I would think (and I could be wrong) it would have some affect on say in the Ukraine, that some females would be more likely to tried and do things like married a Foreigner to escapade and others doing the complete opposite and living only for
the moment not thinking about the future. Also this might be going on in other places like Greece.

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The myth that a white guy from the Anglosphere can hop off a plane and get laid needs to die. While it is easier for even the betaist of betas to get laid with low SMV girls than western girls of low SMV, don’t think for one minute that your westerness carries any real value.

You still need to perform, look good, and have game if you wanna slam some high SMV foreign ass. Even then, no high SMV girl wants to be seen as a tourist fucker or gringo fucker by her fellows. This is especially true in Latin America.

Stop evading and resisting self-improvement, as Roosh has said in the below link, There is no Shortcut to Getting Laid, both at home and abroad.

There Is No Shortcut To Getting Laid

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True that, a lot of Western men come over to Eastern Europe expecting everything to be given them on a silver platter including sex, flirt and a possible relationship.
Just like North American women a.k.a. WHORES expect everything from a North American male without ever giving anything back.
The problem is that any male willing to build a strong, solid and evolving relationship anywhere in the world (excluding North America) still absolutely HAVE TO take good care of himself, stay polite and attentive to his own AND female needs, work out on almost a daily basis and constantly develop himself in all possible aspects of life be it intellectual or physical form.
DO NOT expect anything to be given to you just cause you are a Westerner and have some money and a foreign passport.
Many women might play a game just to get access to your money or to marry you and get out of country, but it IS still very hard to find a genuine relationship.
And males, please, NEVER lose your self respect and always respect others who you happen to encounter during your journeys in a foreign country!
Respect will go a loooong way especially in Eastern Europe.

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TO Former Canadian: I read comments from you. They are very good ones. Canucks are piece of shit, evil, fuckin dirty children. I wish these motherfuckers die of cancer. they are too evil and made my life hell and miserable. How did you leave Canada?

Anglo women are shit. British, Canadian, American, Aussie, NZ, Swedish, etc are dirty, entitled whores.

You are right. You have to put the effort in a foregin country. Women are like employers. They have options. You have to present yourself in the best possible way. Now Anglo women are shitty employers and i do not work with such scum.

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On the flip side, if a hot foreign girl moves to the US and you live in the states, you have the exact advantage that she would have in her own country as Roosh mentions in his post. So take advantage of it when you come across that young, sexy French poodle asking for directions…of course, have some game, a job and look good.

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South America is the destination to find gorgeous women.

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I’m plan on planting my roots in Ec. I have female friend selling a house and I’m gong to buy it sometime soon I hope

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No way, first of all you can pull rich girls, for whom you are a top option(other rich guys will just cheat on her, and other guys are below her class). Venezuela is probably the place you can pull the very hottest girls, interestingly they seem to often view their own beauty as something separate from themselves, kind of the way a rich guy might view his money. I know Vene is a war zone now, but it was like this even before things went bad. Guys there often treat women like shit, so with your game skills you are the 1%. I have girls on my facebook who will post hot photos, and will barely get any attention. This is the girl I’m seeing who is 12 year younger than me http://imgur.com/mbAGKF3. Here 2 facebook photos posted a few months ago that didnt get much attention. One is venezuelan, the other dominican http://imgur.com/pEUwwnz,OjXZyk2#0. The kicker is that these girls are all friendly and zero BS. Sure if you go on a trip for 2 weeks to the capital of a country speaking none of the language you will do poorly..you have to stay and you have to look.

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If you already live in a foreign country, it makes it a whole lot easier. You are already used to the culture and can speak the language. With the explosion of online dating, especially sugar dating, websites such as seekingarrangement.com and tempted.com are very popular with older, wealthy guys, wanting to date younger beautiful women.

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Excellent post Roosh. I am glad that you have come around to having a very reasonable stance with respect to foreign (specifically European) women. It is very important to point out the advantages that top locals (usually) have: a car, nice house/apartment, a good presence, connections, and shared interests as well as no language barrier issues. This has been a recurring debate here and on ROK and it seems that a lot of people don’t recognize (or want to recognize) the strength of the top natives. I have met a lot of women in
Central and Eastern Europe that married and had kids with a “local loser” at age
22-24. To all appearances, this shocks many foreign men. Later once you realize the guy has a free house from his family and connections in other ways, it suddenly turns out to make a lot more sense.

Even if you appear to be a wealthy foreigner in countries with not a lot of wealthy people generally, a woman may still get far more support from a local in situations like these. It is not uncommon for women to marry a “loser” who rocks a house that would be worth 2 million dollars if it were in California. In this sense, looks are a bit deceiving, and I would exercise caution in making strong judgments about the men women date in various Central and EE countries. Although I completely empathize with Roosh and think this post is very good (one of his best), I don’t think it’s as methodical as he describes it. You can test the idea: if you know an attractive woman in one of these countries, look to her 5 or 10 best female friends and the men they date long-term. Ask yourself how many of them are high quality men in any sense. Most of the time you will find that the guy they’re married to or dating is just kind of random and doesn’t follow an obvious pattern. True, the man will likely be above average, but the connection isn’t as clear as one will expect. After all, women try to mimic their
parents and their values as best that they can and most of their mothers and
grandmothers married blue collar average men. Women are programmed to mimic their cultures to a large degree, although unfortunately most girls obviously have retarded parents and retarded friends and end up becoming degenerates.

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The ones that do for “western” males view them like this: “look at this PUSS wussy americoward brat…do they get some $$?….he’s is gonna get FAT like all of them do….but can be milked for money and green card”.

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Hahaha….Very good point! Very true as well….I’m laughing so much, I can bearly write this. From a ravishing woman, more than a number…beyond this “game”. Glowing sensual beauty, to the highest, inside and outside!!! You all wish you could ravishing me….I’m taking by a handsome, European, wealthy gentleman! (Sweet) 💋

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Its interestning to notice that the longer the conversation on Game continues, the less obvious and efficient are the techniques used for gaming.
The facts relevant to mating value are far more important than the pro PUAs would like to admit. Maybe Roosh is one of the few exceptions in this industry.
In general status, income, connections and looks are at least as important as pick up techniques. Not being able to speak the local language seems to be a major drawback, which detracts from the foreign novelty factor in the long run.
When going foreign, same social and cultural background is a major advantage when trying to establish LTR. The PUA traveller is only a novelty short term, and even then it is irrelevant if he is not from a high status country.
These PUA skills are good for breaking the ice and giving solid first hand impressions. But as Rooshs anthropological travels have revealed, these thechniques are not always easily transferrable across countries. Basic social skills need to be combined with more intricate knowledge of the local customs and national mentality.
So the basic message has to be that game can improve your interactions with women. Its basically just tailormade social skills honed for female/male interaction. But these skills are on par with other essentails like status, income, looks and local connections. Game is not a substitute for these Essentials, and therefore you can not give them a low priority without suffering a penalty.
And you cannot fake these elements in the long term. Your true dating value will reveal itself sooner or later.
Game therefore remains as a good supplement, but not as a substitute for the other essential traits which prove a man as having high status.

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Being a guy from a country that is foreign to the ‘Anglo sphere’, i would say that Rooshv is a hundred and ten percent correct. Here, sex before marriage is considered evil. Therefore any foreign woman who has sex with you before marriage is, by the standards of her society, a characterless woman, a loose woman ect. No man in the society will marry her and this is why she is throwing herself at you. Be cautious. She may be dirt of her society and not your prize.Another point I would like to add is that the foreign society as a whole(both men and women) view the western culture as degenerate and promiscuous, and believe that the westerners are not long term relationship material, owing to the ever increasing divorce rate. So a good girl who is looking for a long term traditional marriage will NOT be interested in western men. Metrosexual betas confuse and repel them. They have grown up in a society seeing men and woman in traditional gender roles. Despite the fact that in western societies it is woman who pursue for the divorce most of the time not thinking about their kids, and all, people in foreign countries don’t know about this. They just think that if they marry a foreign man, he will divorce them upon the slightest inconvenience, and divorce is a very serious and rare decision here.

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A local 8-9 will always have options for valuable men, local and abroad. A Russian 9 has potential access to valuable men from all countries in the world. Any hookup will only be temporary.

Things get interesting when comparing 6s and 7s in your country vs the ones where you are travelling. Assuming you as a man are a 7-8, from your point of view, a Spaniard 6 will be roughly equivalent to an american 7. A Polish 7 will be roughly equivalent to an UK 8, 8.5 without the cuntish/shitty attitude. Therein lies the value of dating women abroad.

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I have held the same opinion as Roosh on this for a long time.

The way round it is to choose a spot and develop a genuine interest in the cultural landscape of that land or go to the place where you already have some strong cultural interest. That way as Roosh pointed out you CAN begin to talk to her in her own language, laugh at the same jokes, sing the same songs etc. and thus lesson the differences where you are perceived primarily as ‘foreign’. The thing is it takes too much energy to fake. If it’s a natural curiosity then it’s no effort at all or at least much less so. The kind of cultural understanding needed to get that vibe in a country with the highly attractive talent where you are seen as ‘one of ours’ takes years of incremental advancement. It means getting outside the expat bubble and subconsciously assimilating to the point where you feel more or at least equally as comfortable in the adopted culture. I think few get to that point when abroad which is why bars from Kiev to Manila are full of old expats complaining about how it’s not like the good old days.

When it does happen and you assimilate with a certain culture over a period of time it takes your relationships with the locals, both male and female, to another level of trust and depth. You find higher quality women who are wanting/willing to invest in your relationship, either sexually or in a platonic way. Pushing on with my Russian studies 14 months ago which took me to upper intermediate and the cultural experiences I gained in those 14 months have given me more than I thought possible in terms of reward. I naively thought the reward of better language skills would mean merely being able to talk to more women as opposed to just English speakers but what it in fact did has allowed me to forge deeper relationships with women and deeper relationships with more attractive women than before.

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“especially at my advanced age”. 35 years old is by no means an advanced age for a man.

That is to say, for a man who has traveled and experienced the world, enduring time with the average modern young women (18-24) is an exercise in patience, which only shows the extreme intellectual and life experience differences between them. Of course you only find temporary pleasure in sex with them. They have, literally and materially, nothing to offer you besides sex.

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I immigrated from Belarus with my parents & my younger sister in 1998 to Sacramento, California when I was 19 yrs old. Before California I finished 2 years of a local university, my major was English & Belarusian. When I came to California I went to California State University for 4.5 years, I banged many blond American girls, I had a fancy convertible car, sexy accent, money making, lived with my parents & did not worry about anything.
During the next 10 years I went to my native city in Belarus 3 times, I knew the local culture well, local hot sports, river beach, clubs, banged a lot of local girls and believe me or not on my third voyage I met a stunny gorgeous with nice arse, big boobs – dream girl next door, girl who was 10 years younger than me and a virgin form my native city from a poor family without a father. I married her and brought to California. We have kids now and my mother-in-law lives with us babysitting them.
In conclusion, Eastern European guys who live in the USA have the best chances to bang girls in their native countries cuz they now their customs…etc.

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I have some typos in post…was writing from an iphone, dunno how 2 correct my post.

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From my point of view American guys look so freaking dumb with their grotesque faces, laughing trying to impress local girls in Belarus. American guys are so freaking put a pussy on the pedestal, they are so low here in California, American guys are so miserable, those usa guys who go visit Eastern Europe countries are complete losers, believe me, I have seen them in Belarus. Just my 5 cent observations.

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What do you think Roosh, fellas ?

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I think you are somewhat correct Dzmrty. This blonde of Swedish origin 2cd generation American has found absolute bliss with a certain Londoner. He lives in California now. We have been together 4 yrs. We also feel that same ” in lust” feeling, as the beginning. I’m the blonde, green eyes, natural big firm breasts, tiny waist, lovely arse….give my man my everything girl!!! My man also believes I’m the most gorgeous woman to him. Many others do as well.
That Roosh elder man seem like his prick and balls stink….he looks like he smells awful. His teeth are probably rotten, as he doesn’t smile. His bountiful neck….actually no neck and big ass body are a real turn off.

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I live in Thailand and this pretty much applies. Its quite easy to date a girl in the 6-7 range (even for older and less attractive guys). But dating a 9 or 10 is exetremely difficult for foreigners for all the reasons mentioned. These girls have rich, high status Thai guys constantly after them, and have no reason to bother with a strange foreigner who doesnt really get the culture and lacks permanent roots. Even many very good looking and wealthy white guys end up fishing from the same pool of average Thai girls

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Just like some American women and the rest of the people in this world, some foreign women are interested in men outside their countries but other foreign women are not.

It is true that a Westernized man can find true love in a foreign country (Colombia, Dominican Republic, or Ukraine) easily.

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Not easily… but it can be done

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You treat woman as a commodity! You pass bite, woman in this country that are beyond 25, also are more beautiful and sensuous than you will ever begin to comprehend. I am approached by all types of men and woman on a daily basis. You are the most gorgeous….an older Asian woman said ” wow I wish I had your body!” Children hide behind mama and say, mama look!, she is so pretty, she looks like a mermaid. This is also in front of my very BRITISH France’s. Yes I wold never want a man such as you, ever. My man is the most wonderful gift to come into my life. I, in return am anxious to give him all of me. Yes also a bit more submissive too. He gives me everything, I give him all of me. He has travelled extensively and yes, this California girl ( roots in Sweden, France) is smitten. I am the best lover he has ever had. Ever. He loves my large firm breasts, small waist and lovely ass. My long blonde hair and green eyes. My extreme feminine ways. My laugh and little girl that sneaks out once in a while. If you think woman from the U.S. are not beautiful, you need your eyes and brain checked. You Will never see it and I would see through your games. Have fun playing, while time passes you by. You will wake up one day to find yourself confused and an old ugly man! Good going! You’re a leader of arse holes! Congratulations!

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your attempt to persway him seems to be a big lie

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Sorry my auto correct went crazy. Well you get my point. Hey guys, don’t be so negative. You are over thinking every move, as if it is a chess game.

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Oh, yucky poo! Is that you in the pic? You are pathetic! Eeeks. The woman is a 4 if you like numbers so much! You are below anything I would even look at as well.

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thats not him
ya sadly shes better looking then alot of young girls now a days with obeisty tattoos and short hair cuts

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Your prick must need a great deal of “help”. Is the big V your next best friend? In your advanced, fat, double chin, old age? You are absolutely living in your own made up fantasy of yourself. You are scamming on any guy…thinking other loser men think you rule the game. In reality you need the funds to try and fuck a foreign woman. What a joke!

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I can’t believe there’s still people like this who objectify women. I’m just speechless.

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http://www.sneakymag.com/tv/tim-sharky-people-shit/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joSkLoAX6qs Chaco:20
to add to what u have said, Tim Sharky says westerners are getting screwed.
Good girls basically dont fuck foreigners. Only the liberal ones and whores do. Conservative girls are religious,nationalistic and prefer marrying their own when young.

They see western especially white men as parachutes,doormats or captain save a hoes.
In their eyes why should we get the traditional girls since we come from a liberated culture. We dont follow their customs.
They see us with lower standards. If we want anything close to that in we the west we will have to go to small towns like you have roosh such as the mid west.

Best to keep in mind as a westerner, dont hold your breath for an 18 yr old sexy virgin with domestic skills. That girl will ready too marry her local man soon.
Youll likely get a westernized version of that at best.

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to add to it, think the best we can hope for are 7s, consider all the good 8s and ups are likely marrying the alpha rich guys in their country asap. If shes high value then chances are shes an older career woman taking the western culture in.
Any girl willing to marry out especially to a westerner shell throw her culture under the bus(as you have said) which will give you the very thing you were running from. ANd because shes denied that type of freedom she could be worse then the western girl. As many of our friends have noticed when taking in foreign brides.

Being foreign seems to really demonstrate lower value as you noticed in turkey, which is typical in middle east and south asia. But at least in east asia,eastern europe and latin america youll get the foreigner chasers for short term.

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as you said here westerners are better off going to conservative areas of their OWN countries for a good bride. This is even happening in non western countries, they avoid city girls. Be it in India,japan,thailand,brazil,etc.

as a foreigner youll get alittle bit better quality for the most part but dont expect alot.

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You are largely spot-on in your analysis. You are especially accurate in your assessment that the 3rd world hottie has many options at her disposal, regardless of where she is from (i.e., Donbass region in Eastern Ukraine). This doll will manage herself a higher-end leopard-print mini-skirt, matching 5″ pumped heels, hair job attracting plenty of trophy seekers, local and abroad. I believe there is a very important variable which was left unaddressed however. The focus was on the quality of the lady (scale” 1 – 10). However, no emphasis or barometer placed on the western lad. The assumption is that this opus is directed at the rapidly aging, balding, belly-enlarged, peaked in High School gent making trips abroad (lets focus on Eastern Europe). The reality is, the information age has placed a more globally stamped standard on what women across the world are seeking in a lifelong mate. I was in the Ukraine for nearly two years (off and on) as the Senior Design and Executive Architect during the development of the Ocean Plaza Mall in Kiev. To sum it up, I and several of my team quickly noticed the qualities of the Ukrainian woman – beautiful! I can attest that we had no issues or problems finding female company during my entire tour. I will additionally attest that many of our team were young, educated, athletic driven western men. It was often times difficult to burn the midnight oil working on the project, knowing that the “SKY BAR” Club was just down the road. Yuri (the doorman) became a personal friend of ours, and would allow us in, no matter the capacity or circumstances. The lady I spent most of my time with while in Kiev, worked in the dry cleaners where I took my apparel to have it pressed. She was unbelievably attractive, demure and lived with her mother and sister. She was demure, however can unequivocally state that I have never been shaken from heel to top with passion like this сексуальные женщины was able to do. This is turning into a memoir, so want to just say this most important fact – there is no way I would have been naive enough to marry a Ukrainian (or Russian woman for that matter), as I have everything to lose and nothing to gain. I will never forget my time there however, it was like an “adult Disneyland”. The members of my team were in full agreement. One of our team (who I will let remain nameless), romanced a beautiful girl by the name of Olga for almost a year and a half. he was seriously smitten. I knew Olga, and she would be everything you fantasize in a Ukrainian woman (tall, athletic, domestic, cultured), and I mean everything. However, at the end, my staffer realized that when he returned to the States, everything would change, and could possibly affect his life in an adverse manner from that day forward. Once the Ocean Plaza Mall project was completed, we all returned to America unattached. In closing, please bear in mind that the author is directing his article to American men whose better days are long behind them. You may have been the High School quarterback back in the day, and dated the Homecoming Queen. You may even have a wow house, Benz and a boat. Feel free to trave to Eastern Europe and enjoy the “Club Bed” experience. The more unattractive you are, the more loot you are going to have to throw around to attract a getter looking gal. Whatever you do, DO NOT, and I stress DO NOT get into a fiancée nightmare and bring one of these ladies over to marry. I assure you, you will regret it – take it from someone very familiar with the culture.

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Love does not even exist any more apparently its ALL about sex and looks and status not about who you are as a person how pure your heart is nor how you treat your friends and enemy’s. All you fuck boys AND whores want is some rich beauty queen or stud to fuck for a week and call it quits…..real love isn’t even a fucking thing and all you comments are disgusting as fuck.

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I disagree with you about the high end women not wanting foreigners. Go on a high end dating website and you will see foreign women who complain about the men in their countries being serial cheaters, drunks, and abusers who can’t keep a job. Latin men expect their women to be their servants. Tell a Latin American woman that you will treat her with respect and take care of her, and she will have an interest in you.