How Important Is It For A Man To Suffer And Bleed?

Here’s a comment from the forum:

I love Poland. A true globetrotting playboy knows when it’s time to kick back and enjoy low-hanging fruit, and when it’s time to get down and bleed. Poland for the former, while places like Argentina and Spain for the latter.

After a few months of bliss, boredom and complacency sets in, and you’re longing for girls to feign indifference and play a mind game or two rather than show their cards right away. As a man, I just love the novelty and struggle of the chase too much, otherwise I’d live there forever. Great in the short-term though.

Not all guys have great success in Poland, but if you have the right key then the girls put out surprisingly fast.

I have the right key.

My game is not going up in Poland because what I had before arriving was insanely overkill. I came packing nuclear bombs when all I needed were slingshots. About two months in, I started to get “bored” of banging so much. I wanted to go somewhere else where I would struggle a bit and then have to come up with new methods or tactics. And then I slapped the fuck out of myself.

I bled for four years in high school, unable to talk to a pretty girl without urinating in my pants.

I bled for four years in college, constantly stuck in the friends zone with girls I hoped would give me pity sex.

I bled for nearly a decade in DC, improving my game on career-driven cunts who didn’t make me happy.

I bled for six months on my first South America trip, trying to figure out why my DC game wasn’t working on Latin girls, all while shitting my brains out due to various infections.

I bled for two months in Denmark on girls who were even worse than the DC girls I hated.

And then a short while into Poland I considered leaving because I believed that struggling was necessary to my growth as a man. Truth is I’m not sure how to live without bleeding.

I look at my reflection in the mirror a little longer these days, to make sure what I’m experiencing is real. I savor the moment because soon I will become numb to what is making me happy right now. I will stay in Poland until I no longer care about sex, until I need to give my dick a rest, until the thought of fucking another 110 pound Polish girl disgusts me. I will stay in Poland until I get deported. Maybe this will take another month, maybe another three months, maybe longer, but I would be a damn fool to leave when all my dreams are being met in a place that is as close to natural viagra as I’ve found.

I originally planned on some grand European voyage of visiting ten countries, but now that’s out the window. I will stay in Poland indefinitely, because I don’t want to bleed anymore.


  1. Ugg July 22, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Leben ist kampf.

  2. cupojohan July 22, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Off-topic: Roosh, any chance of the day game book being released while it’s still summer and the bitches are still in heat?

  3. Bigfoot July 22, 2011 at 9:47 am

    The bleeding is what makes our game grow tight, but countries like Poland is why we learn game.

  4. Brian July 22, 2011 at 9:57 am

    I came to a similar realization a little while ago about American women after getting involved with Brazillian and Italian women.

    American women aren’t all useless wastes of space. But the few that aren’t are snatched up pretty quickly. I have a few friends who have been married for years, after meeting their sweet and beautful wives while they were still in high school or college.

    But if you weren’t lucky enough to manage that, your best bet for being happy with a woman is to find one that didn’t grow up here, so she avoided all the feminist brain washing that makes them all so hateful and just generally miserable to be around.

  5. Magic July 22, 2011 at 9:59 am

    Roosh, Im polish and from my observations you have paradise here for a reason. You have strong game, and evrything play to your hand. You are tall and this important in Poland, dark but american and this is killing combination here and give you massive status. We generally like americans and our gilrs educated one love to speak english but they dont feel so confident when they speak and evrything seem to them more funny than it actualy is. You also find already two best cities in Poland with beutiful girls and without competition at all. Congratulation I think that you find your fishbowl where dark american guy have more advantage than blonde guy in Rio, enjoy! (I have to warn you that living long term in Poland espacially in winter may dissapoint, and you have check out also some some places where you been even more desired like lithuania for exemple!
    Be respectful to our girls , and good luck, maybe i will go to Brazil to find my fishbowl too:)

  6. Magic July 22, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Chech republic is also a killer but not, Prague, Brno!

  7. Seed July 22, 2011 at 10:05 am

    You sound inamorated.

  8. spinaroonie July 22, 2011 at 10:10 am

    So if you can’t get laid here move to a Third World country. Wow, this had never occured to me before. You are a genius, what a ground-breaking discovery. Man, you definetely should write an ebook on the subject, this is so unheard of.

    Does this work in other Third World countries too? Say, Thailand or the Philippines? I was thinking of Estonia, would that work? Pls make a list of Third World countries that will get me laid, thx.

  9. outlaw josey wales July 22, 2011 at 10:25 am

    Poland is not a third world country.

  10. Brian July 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

    An honest, great post man. Keep it up – that sounds easy to do in Poland. The girls there might not be stunners, but they have a feminine, easy-going, girl next door look and vibe that is fun to be around. Sounds like fun times in Poland.

  11. Shallow Hal July 22, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Polish girls love the kielbasa =)

  12. Yams July 22, 2011 at 11:16 am


    If you think Poland is a third-world country then its obvious that you live in a bubble.

  13. Wolfie July 22, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Roosh, what is it about your game style that makes it work so well there? Different cultures need different approaches, and as one who dearly loves the shapes and minds of Polish women, I would love to hone my game for them.

  14. Polski July 22, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Calling 20th biggest economy the third world = hater fail

  15. Tampa July 22, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Such an awesome post. Congrats man.

  16. Carmo July 22, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Funny how tons of ignorant white trash Americans who live in nowhereville think that everywhere outside of America is the 3rd world. One day in a place like Poland or anywhere else in Europe and the US starts looking like a decrepit hell hole.

    BTW your argument is awful. If bar A is filled with fat ugly people, and bar B is filled with hot young nubile women where are you going to spend your time?

  17. Arcey July 22, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Carmo says: ‘Funny how tons of ignorant white trash Americans who live in nowhereville think that everywhere outside of America is the 3rd world’

    They don’t think that at all. they just apreciate what they have and absolve themselves of the quest for greatness outside of their culture. On the flipside plenty of somewhereville residents falsely identify consumer culture with high culture and get as much from foreign travel as they would from a trip to the mall. The former is like roosh, absolved, the latter is still bleeding for glory.

  18. The G Manifesto July 22, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Damn Roosh, you did a lot of bleeding before Poland.

    I never really bleed in the early years (well, junior high wasn’t that great), but I keep on going to Spain (now) and Argentina (last April).

    I need some Poland and Thailand in my life.

    Both are on the docket.

    – MPM

  19. Epic July 22, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    I wonder how much of Roosh’s success in Poland is just his “look.”

    Roosh has never had a boost because of his looks, so maybe he is overlooking this crucial fact and attributing too much of his success to game.

  20. Lumiere July 22, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    I notice that my game suffers too when I am in a place I get laid really easily (like Philippines).

    Going to places like Poland sounds like a great way to get laid but not a great way to improve your game.

    Then you have to ask yourself why you are in the game to begin with?

    To be good at dealing with bitch shields carried around by fugly, feminazi mall rats or to have sex with real women?

  21. Sherwood Schwarz July 22, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    The beard and long hair are turbo boosters in Poland.

  22. Johnny Milfquest July 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Aside from Game, I can think of two reasons why Poland is working out well for Roosh.

    1. The girls there dig his swarthy looks.
    2. Roosh digs the way Polish girls look.

    I think I’d have to go to Brazil to get the same effect as a nordic-looking guy.

  23. Tuthmosis July 22, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    “I will stay in Poland indefinitely.”

    I called that shit from jump street. You’ve chosen wisely. To quote BT Express, “do it till you’re satisfied.”

  24. Jake July 22, 2011 at 3:03 pm

    How about not posting these kinds of things, B-roosh Lee? It’s making me envious. It’s making me want to move to Poland. It’s demotivating me from talking to these American bitches in this coffee shop.

  25. Falcon July 22, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    “To be good at dealing with bitch shields carried around by fugly, feminazi mall rats or to have sex with real women?”
    This warrants repitition.

    “Truth is I’m not sure how to live without bleeding.”
    This often happens to guys who had to suffer a lot. But don’t become a masochist. Life is short and to be enjoyed. In the end, nobody cares except you.

    Still looking forward to your Denmark hate guide. And would love to see you checking out Russia, Ukraine, Serbia and Bulgaria. Maybe next year?

  26. Timothy July 22, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    Feel no guilt Roosh…it’s not as if you’ll forget how to game. There’s no shame in fully exhausting this incredible resource of pussy you’ve found. As you said, you’ve bled and suffered plenty to get here, and I’ve often found it can be either feast or famine with women – either a lot of them want you, or none do. Pound away my brother.

  27. Mo Jahama July 22, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Beautiful writing. Its funny though when you don’t care about getting laid anymore suddenly you find yourself with a rolodex of booty calls.

  28. red_bandana July 22, 2011 at 4:32 pm

    duh dude i told u to go to poland… planning on going back sometime myself. how’s the zubrowka?

  29. Bob Rastaman July 22, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    Roosh, how do you think you would you have evolved had you not bled all those years?

  30. red_bandana July 22, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    i even had a polish friend pimp his sister to me (in poland).. polish hospitality at it’s best

  31. red_bandana July 22, 2011 at 4:48 pm

    be sure that u get yourself a few bottles of ‘wodka zoladkowa’ and ‘zubrowka’… keep a couple at your place. buy at least one bottle when you’re at a bar (versus a club.. the bar is the ‘before party’) and share with everyone that u even vaguely know/just met. they’ll pay u back in spades (thru pimping); and for a measly 12 or 14 bucks

  32. red_bandana July 22, 2011 at 4:51 pm

    man, u refreshed my memory of the country. checking ticket prices as we speak.. but then for me in poland i do like michael mason. i have the place on lock

  33. Mark Zarpozi July 22, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Where do you think you’d be in life — professionally and personally — if you never bled during your youth? That is, if you were born an exceedingly handsome man, got laid with 6-7s effortlessly, and experienced a positive feedback loop through favorable encounters with women that eventually resulted in “natural” game?

    Do you think that the pleasure you feel upon conquering a new chick is largely dependent upon past suffering and your conscious application of game techniques you invested time in learning? We tend not to value what always came easy to us, no?

  34. riker July 22, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Fuck it, find out if you can immigrate hah, and see if you can find two hot bi chicks and have a threesome!!!

  35. Sherwood Schwarz July 22, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    what are your favorite cities there so far Lech Walesa?

  36. 2mques July 22, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Sounds like you went to a non-gender war country, and you have PTSD. Be happy man; most American men have been brainwashed into believing that happiness doesn’t exist for them, it on;y exists when we make a cunty woman happy.

    It does exist guys, sometime, you just got to jump across the border to find it.

  37. pilgrim37 July 22, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Well done for the News coverage…let us know if your traffic and book sales get a Boost!

  38. Timothy July 22, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    That news coverage is another reason why Roosh has to stop blasting in chicks raw, even internationally. He won’t be some anonymous dude on the internet anymore – he’ll be traceable, because he’ll become something of a celeb. Folks know what he looks like, and what city he lives in. If some chick wants to bad enough, she’ll be able to track him down and introduce him to his kid in person…HA HA!

  39. Bob July 22, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    To hell with bleeding, man. As the great philosopher Crash Davis once said, don’t fuck with a winning streak.

  40. Urty July 22, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Ok Roosh, I’m a girl and I read your stuff. Seriously, you have to go to the other countries and entertain us with your writing!

    I need that Denmark Hate Guide also, because I have a dude in Denmark. By reading the Hate Guide I can go to Denmark and act the opposite of the Danish girls and get my supremely handsome Danish dude.

    Come on man!!

  41. Travis July 23, 2011 at 12:58 am

    Polish women are so easy, and need slingshots instead of proton torpedoes, mainly because Polish men are extremely Beta…

    They are. Ask any German or Russian man about Polish men, and you will uniformly get the ‘weak und Beta’ assessment.

    Is there any country more famous for getting easily invaded? Weak men make a weak army.

    If we rank countries based on caliber of women against alphatude of men, Poland and China might be the best.

    America might be the worst (best men, worst women), along with Caribbean countries like Jamaica.

  42. Johnny July 23, 2011 at 1:01 am

    There is a great episode of Star Trek, the Next Generation, called ‘Tapestry’, where the difference between a man who took big risks and bled early in his life, vs. was cautious, had very different outcomes in life.

    It is a great episode, even for people with no interest in Star Trek. Check it out.

  43. Johnny July 23, 2011 at 1:14 am

    If someone has no connection with Poland at all, is there a guide that easily lays out :

    1) How to book a modest apartment, that is cheap but still good enough to take women back to.
    2) Where one should stay in the country (since logistics are a huge part of getting laid).
    3) What else one should do?

    We need this sort of guide for those of us who want to go to a country like Poland or Iceland or Brazil just to be a PUA, but don’t know where to begin and don’t want to waste money unnecessarily.

  44. Servo July 23, 2011 at 2:18 am


    If you get bored, head up to Helsinki Finland or Turku Estonia, you literally have to beat them off with a stick on the dance floor. I am also the tall dark type – being an American or just speaking english gets you very far.

    I studied abroad in Helsinki btw.

  45. Lika July 23, 2011 at 5:33 am

    Hell! Now I wonder if I should go to Poland, being a tall Nordic looking guy, or just stick to Brazil and such…

  46. polish guy July 23, 2011 at 5:48 am

    wow, it didn’t really work the fist time. lemme try again.

    Hi Rooosh.

    I’m Polish, 25, student. Reader of your blog for a good year or more. You were among the people who heleped me not only get better with women but primarily realise what was my problem. I had the obstacles of an abusive family and low self esteem, shytness etc to overcome and to the extent that I did it was thanks to your blog and a bunch of others. Thanks and cheers!!

    Now for a few reflections on the topic from my viewpoint as a Polish man who has some insight into what is my country about. I don’t know if I can be as structured as you are in your posts but I write the following with the best intention of helping out the most guys in the community and on your site so please bear with me. This may get long and maybe better suited for the forum, but please forgive me, I can’t be bothered to create an account on the forum.

    1. Overview of Poland from the game standpoint.

    Poland for the most part really hasn’t been infected by feminism and manhating yet. It is true that girls are feminine and delicate and affectionate and all of the other things that you already noticed and twitted about. Especially if you compare to the so called civilised wealthy west. Let’s just hope this lasts because it’s not like we don’t have crappy american shows and movies on every channel, quietly corrupting the minds and hearts of the viewing public with snippets of feminism etc etc.
    I think in Poland the sexual markteplace (I hate the expression) is skewed in favor of men. There just are fewer decent men that women and that is true for most countries in the region. The horrible history tied with continuous economic hardships etc, all of this just targets men more directly and severely than women. Anyone who ever went to Russia or Ukraine will get what I’m saying in a second. Women are like cockroaches, they just adopt and survive. Men, laid off from the liquidated communist factory start drinking and die early. Their sons continue drinking their life away, while their daughters get all primped, bleached and hit the big city to try and cling on to some succesful and wealthy older dude. This is way oversimplified but still true for all of Eastern Europe.

    I’d like to give you a sincere advice: Stay in Poznan, Wrocław, Łódź and maybe Trójmiasto and Kraków. Don’t bother with the capital. It’s the DC of Poland. Not to the extent of course, but if you want uppity whores who are all about status, that’s the perfect place. In general the girls are more like the ideal warm feminine gal in smaller and poorer places.

    2. A short analisys of why Roosh is so sucessful in Poland, in my opinion:

    a) You are exotic in the attractive way, with the combination of Armenian and American. I mean, for me Armenian women have at least a bit of exotic atractiveness to them so I gather the same works for the Polish women. Plus you are an American but not the pasty Germanic one that many people despise and see as weak and stupid. Trust me, if you were a readheaded, pasty freckled guy with a hick accent from Virginia, you would have it alot harder even with game. The bearded levantine but not dirty look is a major plus.

    b) You hit the gym and you have basic style, grooming and clothing put together and taken care of. A mojor plus. As stated above, the history of this place so severely negatively affected men that they are a very depleted bunch. Just doing what anyone does in this respect puts you in front of the bottom 80%. I know you wrote dressing up doesn’t work in Poland. Maybe true but having discrete elegant style, tight tshirts on a fit body instead of big ones on a fat gut, it works here as it sets you apart from the majority of men.

    c) You are rich, relatively. Don’t get this the wrong way. Poland is not Africa, but it is not common for a man aged 30 to have a flat for himself, to have disposable money for partying and to have extra cash for other things. Plus living the jet-setting lifestyle is a major DMV in Poland. Somewhere around 2 million mostly young people left the country since 2000. They couldn’t get jobs due to severe structural unemployment and they couldn’t buy flats which are as expensive as in Western Europe, whereas wages are a fifth of the western european wages. An average wage buys you 1/4 of a square meter of a flat in Warsaw. If you combine 80’s and 90’s emigration, more that 4 million people left Poland. Which again is not uncommon in the region, especially if you compare to Bulgaria or Lithuania. There are problems in this part of the world that will take decades to solve and severe economic degradation is one of them, no matter what the Economist or any other neoliberal hack publication says.

    d) You have game on top of all of this. That also sets you apart. In this region men are weak and the culture destroys their character as much as the continuous socio-economic problems. We didn’t have feminism, but since the 1700’s we had numerous wars and national catastrophes. The country was wiped off the map and partitioned between the neightours. Men were sent to Syberia to sort-of prototype concentration and labor camps as early as 1795(I remember you recomending a book about it). This continued for decades which made mothers the centers of households. This in turn with a peculiar catholic reverence of “mother of god holy virgin Mary” made the mother the sole person responsible for upbringing of children. They of course did their best to raise manginas (unwittingly I believe). Rinse and repeat for 200 years. Throw in two world wars largely fought on Polish soil and 40 years of soviet communism and you arrive at the present state of the Polish male. Shy awkward beta Polish men, who only get tough and coragous after they drink enough for their repressive education to let go.

    Game is king in Poland because most guys don’t have it. The numbers of beta herbs here are shocking. Guys not only don’t know. They don’t know that they don’t know. I was one of these guys for years so I’m very sensitive to this subject.

    3. On the topic of Poland vs. Russia and Ukraine which was mentioned in the comments and on the forum. I’d say, from my travel experience to both and to Moldova as well:
    These countries are similar to Poland but they went through the same historical periods with a lot more suffering and everything is more extreme, every problem is more severe if you know what I mean. In Poland the guys are what you called “busted” and that is even more so in the East. They went through what we went through, just alot more, alot longer alot more severe. Thats why the men in Russia are so destroyed by life, die so early, are so plagued by alcoholism. The 6’s, 7’s and 8’s will be as a result even more affectionate and feminine than in Poland. They will put out more easily and they will fall in love with you after the first date. That is my experience. On the negative side: outside of big city Moscow and Kiev, the people there are severely deprived which results in an overflow of golddiggers and people trying to fuck you out of your money or use you in some other way.

    These countries are more dangerous but you will get more smoking hot 9’s and 10’s. The problem is, they already have their local oligarch or criminal sugar daddys so you being a Westerner doesn’t mean that much anymore.

    I know this was way long, but if there are any questions I will try to adress them.

    1. Roosh July 23, 2011 at 7:14 am

      Day game book is 98% complete. Definite September release.
      Iceland guide is 90% complete. Hoping for a late September release.
      Denmark hate guide is 50% complete. Hoping for a December release.

      I’ll do a Polish guide, but not until after I leave when I’ve collected all the data.

      Polish guy: amazing breakdown. Dziekuje bardzo! Everything you wrote matches with my experience here. I like your observation that women adapt better than me in extreme environments.

  47. @polish guy July 23, 2011 at 7:11 am

    great post, thanks for very useful comments. Any places you recommend for a 10 day stay in Poland?

    Im not dark latin looking, so I guess I got to show more of my natural carisma….

  48. @polish guy July 23, 2011 at 7:16 am

    looks like a im a similar sensitive guy. Still very much beta on the outside, but with strong alpha moments to the point of rock star. Am going to poland for first time and getting laid would be nice. Shall I taint my hair black? 😉

  49. @roosh July 23, 2011 at 7:19 am

    Just discovered your site and Bang a few weeks ago and already feel this is it. Buddy, how do you get people changing my life? AS so many dudes out there wished I had read the damn book ten fifteen years ago. But since i banged my first model now i have hopes to catch up in a short time span. Thanks!

    BTW how to contact you for a beer in Poznan mid sept?

  50. flashbang July 23, 2011 at 7:44 am

    @45 Servo – Turku is in Finland not in Estonia. Perhaps you mean to say that Tartu is in Estonia. Just saying this for accuracy’s sake.

  51. polish guy July 23, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Polish cities I recommend: Wrocław, Poznań (these two are by far the best), Trójmiasto (Gdańsk, Gdynia, Sopot) , Łódź (very poor but big population), Kraków(spoiled, hottest girls in Poland, titanium bitch shields, they are hit on 10x a day by inept drunk English or Spanish dudes with no game)

    There are 2nd or even 3rd tier cities: Lublin, Szczecin, Rzeszów, Katowice, Białystok, Kielce but they are either dead in the summer (college population leaves) or just small and dead all year round. I think Roosh noticed how Poznań changed with university out, and its a major city in Poland. The smaller cities have few people and little nightlife but nicest girls and best “wife material” I believe.

    Also I’d like to add something that many people I believe overlook: In the regione of Central, Eastern and South-Eastern Europe most things are relatively similar from place to place. Almost everything I write of Poland is true of Slovakia, Lithuania, Hungary, Romania etc etc.

    Things may vary but they are all relatively similar. It’s not like Poland is some island of femininity and tradition amid a sea of feminist calvinist capitalism. The entire region has nice ladies and is still not spoiled by protestant inventions and garbage. So if you like what Roosh is writing about Poland, you can pretty much apply this to the entire region.

    Think about it this way: Are UK, Australia, New Zealand and USA all that different? No they are full of feminized obnoxious protestant-calvinist work obsessed manly women. It works the same for the entire region east of Germany and south of scandinavia.

    I will add more things if I think of something else.

  52. polish guy July 23, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Oh and one more thing, concerning your looks.

    If you are on this board and know anything about game then you know that even bad looks can be overcome with other things, at least with grooming, making the best of what you have, being fit and tan or just matching your looks with the best hairdo and style that suits you.

    But you would be crazy to deny that girls in this region aside from status, money and game also look for good looks in a guy and often particular type of looks. I would say that Roosh’es looks are a great advantage, sort of like Matt Taibi and his jew friend had that advantage when in Russian in the 90’s.

    That is why many Spanish, Portugese and Italians with shitty game still do well in Poland and the region.

    Trust me about this one: if you have a pasty, freckled look like many Englishmen or many americans of Scots/Irish/English/German/Scandinavian persuasion your looks will be a major setback that if not compensated with game will render you sexless and frustrated in Poland and the region. If this wasnt’t so every stag party of drunken English dudes would get laid in Kraków, which isn’t the case, believe me.

    As an extra, a few polish sites with pictures of girls (and men) and rankings. Most of these are self-shooters who upload to have their ego elevated by beta-orbiter type of commenters. But beware, some of the sites have only the hottest girls and the polish average is nowhere near as hot, even in Kraków. Some are sites that pick most obnoxious photos from such servers for mockery and insult, just to give you some perspective.

  53. Jesus look July 23, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Roosh, so being dark haired “latin” like is the key to banging polish chicks? isnt it rather your Jesus like look that makes you so popular in over-catholic Poland?

  54. azuzuru July 23, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Struggle is what gives life meaning.

    Read this outstanding interview with Robert McKee, screenwriting guru:

    Good storytelling is all about struggle. Without struggle, there is no life.

  55. Anon July 23, 2011 at 11:15 am

    “Anyone who ever went to Russia or Ukraine will get what I’m saying in a second. Women are like cockroaches, they just adopt and survive. Men, laid off from the liquidated communist factory start drinking and die early. Their sons continue drinking their life away, while their daughters get all primped, bleached and hit the big city to try and cling on to some succesful and wealthy older dude. This is way oversimplified but still true for all of Eastern Europe.”

    Isn’t the same thing happening to America in its decline?

    A bunch of Herbs and a bunch of chicks flocking to the LA, NYC, etc. to get pimped?

    But why to we have so many fat chicks who think they have testicles?

    Perhaps it’s all the chemicals that we pump into our food that shut down our gonads.

  56. @polish guy July 23, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    Thanks, amico. This is very informative! I´m getting very curious to get to see these places. Since Poznan and Krakow are on my itinerary, I cant wait to get there. Met a girl from wroclaw some weeks ago, already married, but great body. I´ll end my trip in Krakow, so hope I wont need to give them V.I.P treatment to get more than a nice conversation. IT´s just an exploratory trip, so I hope to have a better idea when I get back with more experience and knowledge (Roosh, we wait for your new book!).

    One more thing: do some Polish girls like the intellectual-sensitive type with some alpha traits (insatiable) and good humor? Usually it works for me when I try to be creative (without getting too wussy)…I hope to learn some words and expressions, I love it when some chicks open up (mind and legs) after saying two (or five) words in their language.

    PS what you wrote is very relevant for the Forum (poland thread)….

  57. Arun July 23, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    Polish guy,

    Great info. I hear that in Poland, a lot of women are really into Indian Bollywood films, and like those actors.

    Would a sharp-looking Indian guy do well in Poland? With OK Game?

  58. Anonymous July 23, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    American chick suck,over seas girls rock! Conclusion to many years of putting up with Americunts.Glad you are happy Roosh.Alot of us wish we could be in your shoes right now.Hopefully someday soon for me.

  59. polish guy July 24, 2011 at 6:16 am

    Oh and one more thing, ok my last input on the subject of looks.

    I don’t know if being Indian is a plus, because there is a stereotype based on UK citizens of that background in Poland that is very negative and coupled with a certain racist tinge.

    If you are on this board and know anything about game then you know that even bad looks can be overcome with other things, at least with grooming, making the best of what you have, being fit and tan or just matching your looks with the best hairdo and style that suits you and game of course.

    But you would have to be crazy to deny that girls aside from status, money and game also look for good looks in a guy and often particular type of looks. Especially girls in this region. I would say that Roosh’es looks are a great advantage, sort of like Matt Taibi and his jew friend had that advantage when in Russia in the 90’s.

    That is why many Spanish, Portugese and Italians with shitty game still do well in Poland and the region.

    Trust me: if you have a pasty, freckled look like many Englishmen or many Americans of Scots/Irish/English/German/Scandinavian persuasion your looks will be a major setback that if not compensated with game can render you sexless and frustrated in Poland and the region. If this wasnt’t true, every stag party of drunken English dudes would get laid in Kraków, which isn’t the case, believe me.

  60. Arun July 24, 2011 at 6:28 am

    Polish guy,

    I don’t know if being Indian is a plus, because there is a stereotype based on UK citizens of that background in Poland that is very negative and coupled with a certain racist tinge.

    Why? What is the root cause of this?

    And what of these reports of Bollywood Indian films being popular with teenage Polish girls?

  61. Cliff Arroyo July 24, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Bollywood is a fringe (at best) interest that peaked a few years ago. Still, if you look like a bollywood star you’ll do fine as long as you don’t mess it up. If you look (and act) like most Indian guys then …. not so much.

    Generally Indian guys are not attractive, wealthy, masculine or cool enough for most Polish women.

    You don’t need to be all four of those in Poland but you need at least one.

    Also the demoralization/drunk/useless thing polish guy mentioned is mostly a working class thing and shouldn’t be overrated. There are plenty of polish guys who do just fine.

  62. polish guy July 24, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Ok this is really the last batch of thoughts from me.

    I don’t know anything about bollywood being popular in this country. I’m not a teenage girl but the only attitude towards bollywood I have ever witnessed here was trainwreck-bystanders type curiosity. Of the bad sort to leave nothing in the grey area. It’s considered weird and curious, not cool.
    By sharp dressed Indian I hope you mean GQ style and not a bollywood impression. Twilight is big with teenage girls not bollywood.

    Two other thoughts:

    Poland is no Argentina when it comes to the quality of female beauty. In Poland there are few 9’s and 10’s. They exist but for the most part they are in circles which you as a visitor in the country will not be able to penetrate. Celebrities, actresses, models etc. All extreme hight maintanance and they tend to choose position, money, connections and career help over your charm. They hook up with other celebrities. However you still have your 7’s and 8’s in large numbers.

    Despite what I wrote earlier about girls being feminine and nice (and what Roosh already noticed and commented about) don’t think for a second that women here are exempt from their biological imperatives. They are as hypergamous and egotistical as anywhere else.

    Yes Roosh has a great time and pulls hot young students in Poznań for casual sex. They are more feminine and nice than in Western Europe or the USA, but consider the things I wrote earlier: he has game, he looks sharp, groomed and fit, he has money and a flat plus he is exotic in an attractive way.

    I would hate for many wannabe pickup artists who read Roosh’s site to come to this country and be greatly dissapointed that they don’t get laid just because they came here from America or some other place. I’m afraid some of the readers might misinterpret what Roosh is saying about Poland and reach some strange conclusions.

    Last thing: I have traveled across the region for the last several years and from my experience all I wrote about Poland is also true to a great extent for Hungary, Slovakia, Belarus, Lithuania, Romania, Bulgaria and probably the remaining countries.

    Thanks. I hope this helps all of you and remember, the most important thing is who you are inside, in your mind. If you fuck any number number of girls but won’t change your internal self opinion, won’t accept and like yourself, you will remain a beta at heart.

  63. Anonymous July 24, 2011 at 10:45 am

    I dont mean this to seem condescending,but I have had the chance to know a few British guys aswell as Canadians from Vancouver,Canada and there is a sort of a”Racist” or “dislike” for Indian folks or lets loosely say “towel heads” or “Paki’s” which I don’t like to use but they love to use.Primarily because in Vancouver,Canada for example,from what a good Canadian friend of mine told me once is that They are coming in droves and gathering all their Brothers,uncles,Fathers etc.. and buying out homes in blocks aswell as businesses and driving out and lowering the “White mans” prices and comfort so to speak to a never before seen low, prior to the recent 4 year (and counting) global Recession .Its probably a white thing against Indians,who can really say bro.Being Brazilian American myself.I think its lame to see this but I feel its just Life in this big fish bowl we call Planet earth.No one said Life would be fair for any one regardless of Race,class,or creed.

  64. Timothy July 24, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    @63 Anonymous…this is believed to be the driving force behind the Norway bombing/shootings. The anti-immigrant sentiment that is just about everywhere in the world that was/is primarily white, though not everyone would go to this extent to express their opposition to darker people immigrating to their countries.

  65. E July 24, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    I think Roosh is overhyping Poland.

    There are going to be a lot of disappointed brown-skinned dudes who are going to head to Poland and find out it is not the fuckfest Roosh describes.

    I am not sure why Roosh is doing well in Poland, but I suspect it is a mix of height, grooming, style, logistics and game.

    Enough with the hype.

  66. Timothy July 24, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    @65 Lika…that camp was used by the children of people in the political party that favored immigration…that’s why he targeted it. It was the youth wing of the Norway’s Labor Party. His manifesto and other writings have been recovered…

  67. Servo July 24, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    @flashbang…crap, my mistake. I meant Tartu not Turku.

  68. to polish guy July 24, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Many many thanks, Polish guy. I don´t have the looks Roosh has, so I will:

    1. taint my hair black and talk with some latin accent (Im fluent in Spanish, so maybe Ill just present myself as Argentinean ;))
    2. work on my internal game
    3. go to Poland with the idea to improve my game early and middle game, so its not the end of the world if I dont get laid

    Does knowing Polish helps? Im curious about this…will study some words before going there

  69. Michel July 24, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    You insecure Asians need to shut the fuck up. You want white girls, we get it. Go get them, son. Grow some fucking balls.

  70. Rajiv July 25, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Primarily because in Vancouver,Canada for example,from what a good Canadian friend of mine told me once is that They are coming in droves and gathering all their Brothers,uncles,Fathers etc.. and buying out homes in blocks aswell as businesses and driving out and lowering the “White mans” prices and comfort so to speak to a never before seen low

    I get it – if immigrants don’t do well economically and are poor, they are unwanted. Makes sense.

    But if an immigrant comes in and does well, they are also resented for ‘outcompeting’ whites. So they can’t win.

    Anyway, if a group is unpopular for outcompeting whites, then white girls dig that group. Women switch tribes when a new tribe is more prosperous than her old one. A lot of WASP girls sought out Jewish guys in the past. Indians may be the new Jews.

  71. Kevin July 26, 2011 at 10:41 am

    I for one don’t need any reminding that I can bleed. Cool piece.

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  73. Anonymous July 28, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Maybe it’s not specifically Poland, but more due to the fact that you are living in a college town. Didn’t you say pickings got slim after school let out? I’m sure if you lived in a predominantly college area in the US, you would have a similar experience. Most college age girls in the US are still in good shape and if they like you, are fairly feminine/pleasing also. Maybe you should start going after late 20’s/early 30’s Polish women to get a more accurate comparison.

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  76. omega-77 August 25, 2011 at 6:03 am

    Hi all,
    I second everything polish guy wrote. 100% true.
    I’m a polish guy, 33, living in Warsaw for the last 11 years.
    Roosh, your success with polish girls comes from 3 things:
    1. you’re a young foreigner
    2. from what i sense- easy going/like to have fun
    3. you don’t project inflated ego

    one word of warning: if a polish girls is really into you/falls in love… problems down the road.
    keep’em on a short leash. otherwise she can get obsessed.
    my observation is that most polish girls /guys too/ have low self worthiness.

  77. omega-77 August 25, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Why polish guys are mostly beta?
    Same with Brits and Scandinavians.

    Little Sun!!!
    From Dec to March there can be only 5 sunny days.. horrible.
    Sun makes Vitamin D- crucial for testosterone production.

    SUN is #1 factor whether male is strong, dominant, happy, determined.

  78. moni January 28, 2012 at 2:19 am

    You are full of shit….I’m a Polish girl and as much as it might be flattering to get the stares in America where I’ve been living for awhile,I’d never EVER sleep with a pathetic loser like you.Btw Poland is not even close to a 3rd world country,it’s the only economy in Europe that grew strong during the last recession.I don’t know what games you play with the girls there but I can assure you,we’re not all like that..not to mention they do not need a foreigner to get them out of the country anymore..they can travel on their own…

  79. LOL September 29, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    Oh my dear Roosh V youre quite a writer…by the way is there any HONEST, VERIFIABLE way to just check that youre not inventing stories about getting laid (you being VERY average at best, a complete douchebag, unhygienic looking guy)?

    Because its very easy for me for example say…”Oh I went to Kate Perrys concert last night and I stumbled upon her backstage room and out of nothing we started making out and kiss” and await for the mindless apllauses of your zombies

  80. Ko January 21, 2013 at 11:29 am

    Moni and LOL- good point !

  81. Premyslav February 24, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Hi, i’m Polish. It’s nice you have fun with Polish girls.

    However using dumb-like adjectives for Polish guys is heavy thing.
    Note that generalization on entire nation based on a small sample of population is against logic.

    I’m frequently visiting US (IT/software business), and i can say that women/men in Boston, California, and NYC are intelligent, smart, and nice. However, my friends who visited other parts of the States (vacation purposes) say that Americans are dumb, not educated (they don’t know what’s outside US), and culturally insensitive. Simply: assholes.
    So we have two points of view based on two different experiences.

    So, if you want to be welcomed in Poland, please consider multiple social levels, as in every country. Calling Polish men “simpleton” includes me as well, and every sentence like that “moderates” my attitude towards guys like you.


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  86. Dragon February 4, 2016 at 5:22 am

    Lol. Brotha, you have to go through some heartbreaks. But deal with that shit like a man. Get over the ego. If you cant get laid by being yourself, maybe you’re jussst not that interesting. There’s no specific strategy to getting yourself laid bruh. You gotta get out of your head and go with the flow. Maybe you’re just yankin it too much and you’re mad awkward. Thinking with your dink can only get you so far.

    And for your views of fitness. You don’t work out to look good. You exercise to be healthy. Then you reap the benefit of toning up. You naturally attract more women when you live a healthy lifestyle. And when you act like a real man. Maybe ya gotta step it up big dog.