How Men Are Being Socialized To Act Like Women

It’s well-established that human beings are like monkeys when imitating and copying social behaviors such as mannerisms, speech, and even ideas. Birds of a feather flock together, so if you know one individual within a tight social group, you probably also know the others (this is why self-help gurus strongly advise you to choose your friends carefully). There’s nothing stopping this social mimicry from crossing gender lines, meaning that the more time males spend with females, the more they become like them.

My sister has three brothers who she has spent thousands of hours with. Without her even realizing it, she has developed a genuine sense of humor, giving her a personality that leans away from elegance and more towards entertainment, similar to what her oldest brother does when attempting to bed women. At the same time, my younger brother has picked up on a few of her mannerisms, making him less masculine in the process. This phenomenon is normal among mixed-sex families, but can you imagine the effect on people if they were forced to interact with the opposite sex not only in the home, but outside of it as well?

Thanks to feminism, and the penis envy it installs in women, men no longer have spaces where females are not present. They have invaded education and workplaces at all levels. They are present in coffee houses, formerly male clubs, and even barber shops. Not only are men no longer able to “practice” being a man around other men without fear of offending the opposite sex, they are unconsciously picking up female mannerisms and ideas at the same time that females are picking up on male mannerisms.

Because the sexes are not segregated, women are becoming masculinized and men are becoming feminized. This is greatly harming male development and creating a generation of feminized men who are confused about their identity and masculinity.

We need to ask ourselves two questions:

1. How much time does a male need to spend around females during adolescence to gain sufficient socialization ability to procure female mates?

2. After adolescence, how much non-intimate socialization with females is required to maintain his well-being and happiness?

If you look back to the generation of our fathers or grandfathers, masculine and feminine spheres were significantly more segregated than what we see today. Each sex kept to their own and were only brought together in a handful of situations outside of family. Even family, if you go back to agrarian times, consisted of men working the fields or engaging in hunts for most of the day while women (and little children) attended to household duties. They did not sit down together and watch movies all day or gossip endlessly about other people. That sort of business is too trifling for a man to endure.

In modern times, men are constantly forced to interact with women. Not only do they have to infantalize their speech and behavior to not trigger the ever-present politically correct police, but they are passively absorbing female behavior through chronic daily interactions. This assault on males begins from their first day in kindergarten, and continues without relief for the next several decades. By the time the average Western man is 20-years-old, he has spent at least half of his entire history of socialization with women.

Is it a coincidence that the increased visibility and flamboyance of homosexuals tracks with the social integration of men and women in all spaces? Of course I’m not stating that this integration is the sole cause for the homo-obsession we have in the Western world today, which has recently culminated with the sanctioning of anal marriage, but it’s hard to deny that men whose masculinity has been diluted since childhood find favor in behaviors that are decidedly feminine.

Even men who pursue casual sex with women have to be careful about being feminized. I spent an extended period of time talking to thousands of women in my life, trying to excite and please them through trial and error. I have come to understand women more than most men, so I wasn’t surprised recently when I caught myself speaking in a feminine uptalk cadence that only girls and manginas use. I was horrified. I’ve since become more conscious about blocking other female mannerisms that want to slip into my being.

It’s no shock that the most successful players I know are not ultra-masculine at all, but have many feminine traits that actually allow them to connect more easily with women who prefer a more cosmopolitan man than one who looks like he just came from the Siberian tundra. While masculine men have no problems getting a woman, I’m starting to suspect that men without feminine personality traits will find it hard to gather the ability and motivation to lay a lot of them in a playboy manner.

Every man should do a preventive check-up to see if his social interactions with women are actually making him more feminine, and if more masculine interaction is needed to tip the balance. Because humans adopt traits of the individuals they spend the most time with, we need to be more conscious about what influences we are allowing into our lives that take us away from masculinity and strength.

I personally see little need for a man to work with women, go to school with them, or even maintain asexual relationships with them, especially with women who don’t give him sexual access to her friends. While there are many problems in modern society that are difficult to solve, excising needless social interaction with females outside of sexual relationships is an easy one to fix. Choose to spend your free time with men so your masculinity remains strong and steady.

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Laguna Beach Fogey
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Excellent piece. It’s almost as if neo-masculine men have to self-segregate and remove themselves from feminine company, outside of sex., which contradicts most men’s natural inclinations There’s no reason to have female friends if they’re not providing sexual access.

I have to remind myself of this. I’m drawn to women, and they’re drawn to me, but too much time in their company is toxic for a man. I grew up in a female-only household (my father was away on business most of the time), and most of my parents’ friends only had daughters, so I had to constantly find ways to remove myself. Being around females for too long can really fuck you up if you don’t realise the danger you’re in and extract yourself.

It’s been remarked on before than a lot of PUA-types are quite effeminate in their mannerisms and mimic the chattiness and speech patterns of women. This is why.

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Excellent indeed. Roosh, you nailed it!

My sister has three brothers who she has spent thousands of hours with. Without her even realizing it, she has developed a genuine sense of humor, giving her a personality that leans away from elegance and more towards entertainment, similar to what her oldest brother does when attempting to bed women.

And, I discovered that finding a girl with more brothers than sisters (like one I’m intimate with now), provides them an appreciation for male behavior and true manliness. This particular girl, while being a foreigner here in America, is the most feminine and appreciative women I’ve ever met. Not to mention, she’s petite, and fit as hell. She speaks adoringly about her father and brothers and how they shaped her ideas of strong, masculine men. In the future, one of the first things I’ll ask a girl is how many fathers and brothers she has in her life.

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That’s the first question I’m trying to get answer when I meet a new girl. What, How and Why does she love her father and her brother and every other male in her life? If her love towards men is somehow broken or less than acceptable, I avoid.

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Single-Mom raised is a major red flag for me. Strong father figure is invaluable to proper raising of a female.

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I agree with you. But remember to give respect and credit to widows and women who do their part in raising good children, good children who reject SJW and their filth.

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Only if one emulates the bad actions.

Caligula Rex
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You are a mangina, my friend, if you think love comes into this. It is codependency you are seeking, not fluffy love bunnies. Grow a pair.

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Google ‘The Five Love Languages’ by Gary Chapman. With that, it’s easy to quantify love in to something worth measuring. Grow an intellect before you open your mouth, boy.

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Do you want to love an inhuman animal? Don’t let your emotions rule your head and grab your nuts in a vice.

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Read the thing, kid. Then we can talk.

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What an assclown

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yep.this is why women avoid men as well. most have whore virgin complex. mom/sex. “not my sister” yet watch porn. men are generally less than acceptable. why marry or love something that will rot and decay 6 feet under one day anyway? its the reason women have periods. we are purging life/men and attaining eternal life as women. /one woman…without a parasite. an eternal son might be nice. (one that remains a child and doesn’t breed) its the gial of God as mother..one male son as Bible repeatedly says . this is why term M-other f-er is so common. it means a f-up. a male. who has “failed” gaslighting women is deplorable. a woman avoided for how she feels about her ABUSIVE father and brothers and then YOU avoid her means you need to coddle yourself lol. you are also an abortion then. (spiritually speaking you missed the whole point) you cannot parasite a good women or reject a bad woman as YOU are not anything yourself. you need to understand that.

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evolution is BEAUTIFULLY taking its course and I’m GLAD that you men are “avoiding” women ;)! keep it up!!!!! youre avoiding women that have bad men in their lives!!!! so you are EXITING as a man yourself as well. this is perfect though! like a moth to the flame …..we rise because you avoid. thank you! youre a parasite to the good father who raised a good daughter. you know that right? youre the subset of ‘men’ its why youre on this site. there is no coming back. I am not saying there is hope for you. this is nature and evolution. getting angry is only a sign you feel you lost and want to share it. no one cares! that’s a GOOD thing!

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song truly you sound feminine. you want and need love from a woman who came from a good man? you really need to examine yourself. we are all waking up. you will find not only yourself unacceptable to ALL women..but worse yet you will be stuck in your own body wholly unacceptable to your own self . fair warning. no fucks given if you find out too late. it will fall on deaf ears. women aren’t “allowed” by nature and evolution to listen to stupid. you have an inner gay man. and it is your own fault. you have no one to complain to. who ? are all women/random women your mother? lol .someone lied to you when they told you women will always be there for you men. its a chore and breeding drains the one lifesource. why would anyone do that willingly once love is gone? why love you at all? women have a covenant with God it says its “father daughter” eternal love. a man cant intrude on that with breeding. nice try though.but youll be punished for even thinking to do it. these days men pay for vast majority of abortions.theyre aware of what they are. and the remaining men “avoid” all of it. so they are also aware of these same truths. I would not give one second of my lifespan to a male who has to judge me as acceptable lol.its my lifespan that HE is using!!! its a joke .im good. lol as Bible says women die due to breeding. men have KILLED women for centuries and still today through BREEDING. the rest abort and say “love me instead” its all ridiculous…….woe to you and your children….when they shall begin to call her blessed who never gave birth…woe to those with child in those days….someone wants their lifespan/lifesource back..as an all one female….you might be dead weight. too bad you try to manipulate.

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song..ironically though…these abusive fathers and brothers that cause you to avoid the daughter/sister of them..will later on to save face say they abused their daughter/sister to save her from you..its that ridiculous how all men lie about their lifesource….bible even says to woman”every BROTHER will usurp you and trust not your father and brothers when they shall speak kindly to you” youre all the same ….women get abused by fathers and brothers and then “rejected” by men who “avoid” such women lol….its all working together…….bible says she must be restored 4 times as one…daughter loved by father.. 4 beast kingdoms (humans) all blown to chaff after 4th and final…for “tormenting her” your death is her relief “all the hoardes that fight against daughter zion shall be as though they never were” “she will wake up and say “that was a bad dream I was having” God wants his daughter back and she doesn’t have any sons……..you were supposed to just be thankful and enjoy the life you had…not fight it and kill “mother” as she wasn’t willing anyway…..and someone does have her back and torture seems to be his thing….you’ve been told.

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“I’m drawn to women, and they’re drawn to me”

Sure they are dude, suuure they are

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“”I’m drawn to women, and they’re drawn to me”

Sure they are dude, suuure they are”

I get your sarcasm, but as long as a man has something a female wants (eg. drugs, money, position of power) she will, indeed be ‘drawn’ to him.

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They love me. Can’t get enough.

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“Being around females for too long can really fuck you up if you don’t realise the danger you’re in and extract yourself.”

In particular, an unhealthy interest in the trivial: gossip, talk shows, fashion magazines, etc. There seems to be something genetic in women that is drawn to such entertainment.

When the dust settles, they all look around like, “Ok, so where are the men at? Not here, talking to us!”

That is why a man must extract himself from such circles as much as possible, lest he develop this addiction to trivial passivity (amongst other things).

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A warm loving man with “feminine” characteristics has an equal or greater chance for transferring his genes than a macho man who invests 4 hours in the gym each day. So shave your chest, get an ear-ring and educate yourself in culinary arts. Your little black book will be over-flowing.

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Why use woman for anything but sex? I totally agree. Like lesbians can go fucking kill themselves because what do the have to offer. VAGINA. thats all the influence men need in this culture. Cut down a fucking tree and braid your blonde dick hair. This is the revolution of EQUALITY FOR MEN stop being pussies and having any human decency. FUCK EVERYONE WHO WASNT BORN WITH A DICK- LITERALLY. i read your comment and now i am no longer afraid to die. I embrace death with open arms. thank you, and goodbye world.

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The days of women as ladies, at least in the Westernized world, are dead. So outside of sex, why bother socializing with women at all? To discuss politics? Art? Science? Music? Travel?

Give me a fucking break.

“UHHHH!” “I’m done. Cab fare’s next to the door.”

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Excellent

AmericanPie
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Sounds like the anger of a pale, friendless virgin…

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So if I watch a couple episodes of “CSI” can I be your friend?

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Sure, I will translate the big words for you.

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Awwww! What rest area do you want to meet at? That’s where you hang out, right?

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That’s the refuge of a genuine troll, to allude to homosexuality as a means of argument. Get out your dictionary and look up “reaction formation ” by Freud. You’ll find yourself there. Add coward to that too, unless you’re willing to come out from under the bridge.

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Shitzipper, you must have stumbled upon one of my posts when you were sobbing after a spat with your “partner” and started with me for some reason.

You don’t like my posts? Tough shit, don’t read them. Remember, YOU started with me, keyboard commando, champion of your mommy’s basement.

You’re exactly the type of little bitch that when they shoot their mouth off IRL and get called on it, simultaneously starts crying and pissing your pants. Coward? Look in a mirror, bad boi.

Why don’t you try gargling glass shards; the world will be a better place if you did.

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I’ve already won the argument and verified your status as a cowardly troll because I, unlike you, don’t hide under the bridge of anonymity.

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Ok…you win. Now you can put a gold star on mommy’s refrigerator!!! Good boi!!!

AmericanPie
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Come out and fight like a man or large overweight woman as the case may be! Every anonymous post of yours yells out,”I am a coward!”

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I’ve thrown down the gauntlet and the best you can do is remain fixated on my sexuality. You must be a potentially recidivating endomorph with an excess of definitions favourable to the violation of societal conduct norms with a proclivity for deviant philia.

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Feminization is an understatement. Take a look at the “The Good Man Project” site and what you’ll see is BIG push to feminize en. Article after article reflecting men being warm and fuzzy … Pushing boys to wear pink. They despise masculine men.

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Good point.
I caught myself dumbing down sometimes in order not to “mansplain” myself to females.
I recently to talked to a girl on a more philosophical note. I tried to bring her to my level, and failed. So I had to use “her language” in order to make a point (which I successfully did).
My point was that male and female are like Yin and Yang (she agreed), so why should the male embrace something which is 5% of his essence?
She was shocked, as she never thought of it like that.
I noticed that in the past, males are drown to that type of behavior because it is easier. You need “less effort” to act like a female. This also explains why you see this type of behavior.

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I find myself lately during any attempts to explain anything normally appealing to traditional male logic – but greatly beneficial to a woman – having to give the Cliff notes, abridged version for their scattered, female brains. to remotely comprehend.

Surly the addition of social media and info overload via smart phones makes attention spans even worse. Sadly, I’m a concise person who likes to provide just enough reason backing my logic that it hopefully “sticks in” their brain for future use, and to my benefit. Teach a person to fish right? However, it’s futile attempts.

Explain nothing to women, tell them XYZ “needs” to be done. Give little reason why. If they inquire why, exaggerate the negative result of doing otherwise. They won’t understand the result, but they will remember the exaggerated nature of what you told them. Fear is a wonderful tool. But if you engage women regularly, expect immediate dependencies to develop.

We’ve entered an era where women can’t even do normal womanly tasks correct without guidance. Dishes (shit still crusted on out of the dishwasher), Clothes (6″4″ and still shrinks my clothes in the dryer), raising kids (selfies, FB, twitter, & Instagram overrides attention to kids).

Finally, women talking over men mid-sentence is a damn epidemic. Bitch shut up, the entire crux of what I’m explaining and you just opened your fat mouth and interrupted.

Small minds talk of possessions~
Average minds people~
Great minds ideas and concepts~
*****Just ear hustle women and feminized men in public and review their topic of discussion, t’s almost always the first 2.

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Pro post. Some great points here that could be expanded into a great article…

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“Surly the addition of social media and info overload via smart phones makes attention spans even worse. ”

It’s so frustrating to have a convo with a woman and not be able to delve deeply into a subject. After the first 5 minutes they’re ready to move on to the next topic, and if you continue, they act like you’re beating a dead horse.

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Did you also explain to her that gender is an ascribed role, not a biological given? Did you tell her about Kinsey’s landmark research which shows that the majority of men have had at least one homosexual encounter in their lives. Did you tell her about XXY and XYY and XO chromosomal patterns? If you’re “dumbing down” to women, try dating one with with a PhD in biology or engineering. I’d love to listen in on your first conversation.

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Stop being a butthurt little girl. You’re not getting anywhere with that kind of attitude, here amongst us men.

We’er bigger than you. We’re stronger then you, so watch your mouth.

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In many long-term stable “primitive” cultures (e.g. much of pre-colonial California) the sexes were ordinarily segregated – women & children in the village, men & post-pubescent boys in the men’s lodge some distance away. The sexes would meet only occasionally, for (a) reproductive purposes, and (b) certain prescribed rituals. Maybe a little too drastic for our modern taste, but it worked.

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There were only boys and men in those societies. The puberty rites is what changes the status from boyhood to manhood.

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I’ve come around to defending the Ultra-Orthodox Jews (or the Ultra-Jews, as I like to call them) who refuse to sit next to women on airliners.

Ostensibly they do this because of the Jewish taboo on physical contact with women during their menstruation, and the Ultra-Jews don’t want to take chances with strange women they meet haphazardly.

But I can see a deeper principle at work here. In a healthy patriarchal society, men would control their womenfolk’s contact with other men outside of the family. These patriarchal Ultra-Jews want to show by example their willingness to hold up their end of the deal regarding other men’s women.

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This is the same exact comment you left on another article. WTF are you doing?

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It’s one thing to not believe in god, like myself, but to label yourself an atheist reveals your capacity for mental illness.

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Not using your real identity labels you a coward

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And why we are wrong to side with Trump and friends against Islam, when really shariah law could solve this problem once and for all.

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Hm, I agree. When I first arrived in North America to go to school, I noticed men gossiping about women in such a way that I thought: “North American men gossip about women in the same way that European women gossip about men.”. In other words, these “men” were like women to me. They were metrosexuals in my mind – and I even told them – but now I’ve gotten used to it. Also, where I’m from in Europe, men don’t keep women around as so-called “friends”. Either you’re with a girl to be intimate, or you don’t spend time with them at all, save for at work, because you have to. Where I’m from, you will also not find any women who regurgitate the all-ubiquitous “most of my friends are guys” line. Surely that’ll be changing soon – everything that happens in North America happens in Europe 20 years later after all – and I’ve lived in N.A. now for 10 years, so when I go back to visit I already notice the difference.

There are other things too, like women’s subjectivity being socially accepted in North America, whereas where I grew up, women also want to be subjective, and base every decision on emotion instead of reason, but society sort of forces them to be objective. Here, in N.A., people simply state “women are more emotional than men”, and they accept it for what it is. Objectivity is not a social requirement. This of course encourages women to be emotional rather than rational, which is where certain HR practices come from, such as “it doesn’t matter what you said to her, all that matters is that she felt offended”. Whether the statement was actually offensive or not is irrelevant here. No wonder “men” here talk like women. Also, why do American rugby players have to wear padding and a helmet and call it “American Football”?

– European: “Hey guys, let’s play rugby!”
– American: “Oh nooooo, I need paddiiiiiiing…”
– European: “OK here’s your padding, now let’s play rugby!”
– American: “Oh noooo, I need a helmet tooooo…”
– European: “OK here’s a helmet, now let’s play rugby!”
– American: “Oh nooooo, we’re going to call it “American Football” now, and when we get huuuurt, we’ll go lie on our therapist’s couch to talk about how it makes us feeeeeeelll…”
– European: “No wonder you people can’t even win a little war against a bunch of guys that are wearing sandals, that are dressed in robes, and that have light arms.”
– American: “Oooohh that’s really offensiiiiiive. What you just said gave me pee-tee-ess-deeeeee, I have to go lie on my therapist’s couch now to talk about how that made me feeeeeellll…”
– European: “Fuck you pussy. Go home to your Americunt, cuckholded little bitch boy.”

Man the fuck up.

Oh and another thing: why do half of the North-Ameri-sluts I talk to ask me what my favorite color is? What are these chicks, retarded six year olds? Adults don’t have favorite colors, and if they do, it depends on the object, for instance, I like my cars grey, but I like my Ferraris red, I like my sky blue, I like my watch metal colored and I like my furniture brown. How retarded is it to state one color that is your favorite in absolute terms? I just can not believe how dumb women are allowed to be here.

End rant.

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Well… well… oh yeah? We Canadians are the only people who have been able to teach Frenchmen to play hockey, so there!

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That’s great. Now go get some couples-counseling. And have a wonderful divorce.

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Interesting my German friend has literally ordered others to stop saying unkind things about Muslims on Facebook. Must not hurt their tender feeewings. As an Americunt I must say I find European males strangely effete. I guess it’s the “in England everyone’s a queen except the queen effect. Where in Europe are all these manly men hiding? In Sweden?

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Yeah, it clearly depends on the person rather than the continent. I think this guy might come from the former Eastern block, because Western Europe and America are interchangeable on these issues nowadays.

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LOL. Sweden is probably the most feminized country not only in Europe, but on Earth. You’ll have to look in the former Soviet bloc.

It’s actually scary how even a decade ago normal men were common in most western Europe countries. Not so anymore.

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No, not in Sweden. Sounds like your “German friend” is a bit brainwashed by the establishment.

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Ya think?

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I’m from the South and it’s not that bad here between the sexes . We still separate men and women. Men pamper the shit out of their women here ,but they still go do men stuff like hunting or shooting with each other and women go do women stuff like cooking and shopping. We are almost unanimously represented as dumb inbred racists by the MSM though. Which is funny, because the high Black crime rate down here seems to make women realize they need us around and not pussified. The recent confederate flag debacle is a good example of how delusional the country is. One crazy mistreated young white boy goes crazy and the world acts like the South is lynching black on a daily basis with JIm Crow Laws. While in reality, Atlanta and Birmingham have Black on Black crime deaths equal to a modern war zone. Religion is big here too. I honestly that is a direct result of the needed networking to survive a whole system setup in favor of Blacks down here. Despite the system favoring them they still largely result to the average mean of criminal lifestyles. The nightly news tells the stories thought despite the MSM narrate and women see this crap. The indoctrination is still strong and we lose a few,but the mass white population is still proud to be southern and lives a more traditional way than the rest of the USA despite the huge factors working against us everywhere.

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It would take you to bring race into the discussion…. you backwoods clod

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European men don’t talk about women? What European country are you from?

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Very nice. I concur.

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I don’t know where you come from in Europe, but Europe has surpassed the US or Canada when it comes to sissy boys. I originally come from Europe and I’ve been all over the continent, Europe is a breeding ground for cowards, defeatism and a false sense of superiority to countries outside of Europe. You’d expect Europeans to be courteous or gentleman when they lack balls, but many haven’t even got that going for them. This continent needs a reality check, for it’s nothing more than a pathetic passive-aggressive playground, with welfare keeping the herd in check. Everything thrilling and/or dangerous is automatically bad. When Europe is called out on it’s stupidity and what many Europeans lack you’ll get the ol’ Europussy babbling about “yeah, but we no shoot up the place, yeah but we no use carts with horses no more, yeah but we no savages, we no live in dessert” etc. It always has to be something extreme, cause you know.. In the USA EVERYONE is shooting one another. EVERY Arab milks camels in the desert, EVERYONE outside of Europe is living like it’s 1910 right, yeah, nope. You want to push legislation through? Don’t tell the benefits for people of this legislation, tell them only how dangerous and scary it is if it doesn’t get through. Europeans are heavily dependent on their governments, addicted to “safety” provided by anyone but themselves, it’ll pass. Europe is childsplay.

The constant bitching and moaning about Arabs. Arabs aren’t your problem, your backstabbing, hypocritical governments are. They come up with your delicious integration policies. “Do you come from a war torn country? Do you have values which are the complete opposite of which we have in Europe? Great! Cause here you can live exactly like you did in your previous country! Wait what’s this? You aren’t functioning in society? You aren’t happy in this country? How could this possibly be?!” Arab culture is more dominant than European cultures (cultures that are pretty much dead anyway). Europeans are scared shitless for these people, but perhaps you wouldn’t be so afraid when you weren’t such push over pusscakes to begin with.

What the fuck is up with the whole “freedom” argument any way. If anything Europe is anti-freedom, cause freedom is being self responsible, that’s dangerous thus bad. European governments have taken away most, if not all responsibilities, (over) regulates everything, et voila, welfare. You have some minor freedoms, but pretty much anything is pre determined for you. When your government functions like your insurance company for every aspect in life, you’ve got an obedient populace. I believe Benjamin Franklin once said something along the line “people who give up freedom for a little safety, will receive neither”. It can’t be a coincedence European sounds like “You’re a peon”.

Europeans need to grow a pair.

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I have two younger sisters. I think that is a boon as far as gaining experience with dealing with women. In my 20’s my first serious girlfriend was a friend of my sister. Before that there was a whole parade of jailbait that I had access to. While taking a taste, I never did anything “statutory”.
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In the end, dealing with my sisters was a good preparation for dealing with other women.
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But in terms of “man space”, it was the army reserve for me. It was a hyper-masculine experience that only got weird in the early 90’s with my junior leadership course that got taken down the garden path by SJWs who figured women could soldier as well as men.
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Stepping into the way-back machine I recall that when I was really young some of the other guys thought there was something off about me. I actually preferred skipping rope or playing tea to rough housing and doing sports. While the general opinion was that girls had cooties, I thought they were rather nifty. In the end, while other guys were out scoring touchdowns and home runs in the literal sense, I was playing doctor with Suzie Schoolgirl. I think I got the better deal out of that.

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Lol, if you want to find a manly place with no women, go to aircraft maintenance school, or get a job in construction or resource extraction. You will see one or two women here and there, but all those places are 99.9% male. Also, if you want a picture of what our society is becoming, look no further than the late 18th century.

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The problem with the kind of all-male spaces that you mentioned is that you’re constantly surrounded by gorillas. Those professions have zero education, every single bit of humor that comes out of those men’s mouths is going to be penis-vagina humor, and the vast majority of your co-workers won’t even be able to spell the only language they speak. You’ll be intellectually miserable.

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Put 50% of your time in an all-male space with the gorillas.

Put the other 50% somewhere intellectually nerdy. Expect to be alone in that pursuit in the beginning, and on the way you’ll meet soft, un-intellectual posers, but eventually you’ll meet the hard ass nerds with tiny arms full of testosterone. With them you’ll be able to be masculine AND intellectual.

Just like Rooshv.com and Return of kings. Some of is it for the gorillas, but if you’re patient, you’ll find the stuff for the intellectuals.

Besides, if you don’t seek for intellectualism in the gorillas, then you’ll never find it in them, and you’ll never be able to introduce them to the intellect.

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In my experience, I’ve never met a gorilla who can transcend his limitations. The humor always remains penis-vagina, and the opinions always remain “U.S.A.!!!!, U.S.A.!!!!”-like.

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You realize a modern car has much more complex computers than those that went to the moon, right? And those gorillas can fix them, which I’m betting a real smart guy like you can’t. Ammi rite er ammi rite?

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You need to meet more of them. And when/if one of them shows potential for intellectualism, slowly ease him into it. 90% might not have the potential, but you won’t find any who do, if you don’t believe that any are capable of it.

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Yes,numbnuts. The worst spellers in the world are male engineers. I know, I work with the best in the country. If you were as “smart” as you want to try to appear, you’d know that. Dumbass.

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I think you meant: the worst spellers in the North American world, which is 4 to 5% of the world’s population. Engineers where I come from can spell.

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I call bullshit. I work with Engineers from many different countries. The more mathematically inclined they are, the worse they are at spelling. I’m extremely good at spelling and a poor showing mathematically. I’ve certainly found this to be true of those extremely mechanically inclined as well.

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He’s just anti american look at his other posts he’s going to say Americans are bad at everything no matter what it is

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As opposed to those manly men in Feminist gridlocked Europe.

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I think it’s more difficult to generalize Europe than it is to generalize North America. In North America, (almost) everyone speaks the same language, has the same curriculum in school, only talks about two political parties, and the variation between states is somewhat less than the variation between different countries where completely different languages are spoken. I mean, sure, you say “feminist gridlocked Europe”, and that may be true in England, but Western Russia is also Europe, and it’s hardly feminist gridlocked. Denmark? Sure, feminist gridlocked. Bulgaria? The opposite. Compare that to The States, where every girl I go out with is like a clone who reads date-questions off a script. Having said that, I don’t know any European man, from any European country, who thinks it’s normal to have a therapist who tells him to talk about how things make him feeeeeeel. But I know many American men who have a therapist; some of them talk about it openly. This means that, in Europe in 20 years from now, men will also have therapists – and probably wear those unbelievably gay ankle socks. I don’t like these kinds of trends.

I was in Ukraine last March during the fighting, and I traveled east of Odessa to see what it’s like in a war zone. I saw the Russians sitting on their tanks chilling out in their balaclavas and their full gear. I can assure you, with one hundred percent certainty, that these guys do not go lie on their therapist’s couches to complain about their “PTSD”, and about “how things make them feeeeeel”.

So sure, I know it’s funny in The States to say that “Europeans are gay” and such, because they wear tighter pants, or clothes that actually fit them. And in Europe it’s common to make fun of Americans for all having therapists and for wearing gay ankle socks, but these are just little things that one culture uses to make itself feel better than the “other guys”. I also know that American men have more meat on their bones. But more McDonald’s fat doesn’t mean more courage. Quite the opposite.

There is a reason why an American, with the largest army in the world, with predator drones and reapers, and the largest defense budget in the history of mankind, cannot even win a little war against a bunch of guys that are wearing sandals, that are dressed in robes, and that have light arms, and that, after “fighting” in that little war, Americans have to go home to The States and go lie on their therapists’ couches to talk about their “pee tee ess deeeee” and about “how it makes them feeeeel”. There is a reason why Americans choose to kill people with drones from home – thousands of miles from the battle field – instead of getting into a jet and doing it from close up. You can say it’s “noble” to have this trend, because “Americans aren’t getting hurt in conflicts as much anymoooore”, and because the American government is terrified of body bags coming home, like when The States got its ass kicked into oblivion in Vietnam – so much so that when they retreated from Vietnam, they went so far as to dump perfectly good helicopters into the ocean from carriers so that they could take more “men” – but the reality is quite different: if you have a population of cowards, and you select soldiers out of that population, and you send them to war against real men – the Taliban or the Vietcong for instance – they’re not likely to do so well – they’re more likely to run.

Oh, please spare me the “we helped you out in WWII” crap, okay? By the time The States joined the war, Germany was already so resource-depleted that their tank bottoms were built from concrete instead of metal.

“Yeah, but we won against Japan!”. Yeah, sure. All able bodied Japanese men were either fighting at the front in 1945, or were already dead, and then The U.S. threw 2 nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were inland cities that were solely occupied by women and children at the time, because there were literally no men left. Killing hundreds of thousands of women and children with nuclear weapons. Yeah, Americans are real “men”. They’re heroes. Decades ago, they killed other countries’ women and children. Now, American “manly men” mass murder American children, in schools. What a surprise.

Call me a “troll”, but it is how the rest of the world, which is 95% of the world’s population, sees it. I know, I know, you’ve been swearing allegiance to the flag since you were a child. None of what I just said is plausible, and it’s not even close to what Hollywood taught you about “history”.

Manly men in The States. Give me a break.

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You’re making fun of veterans with combat-induced brain damage. If you babbled on as you are now in public, in person, someone would knock your teeth out.

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I understand your vitriol. Your points are coherent and factual. America is a feminized mess that abhors masculinity. I know… I live here…

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I’m actually not anti-American, The States has historically been responsible for most of the inventions, or improvements on inventions that the rest of the world uses on a daily bases. The States is also a great cash cow for me, but it is common for an American to label a person anti-American if that person criticizes American culture only a few times. If you make your populaion swear allegiance to your flag every day, starting when they’re little children, then their love for their country becomes something that’s not objective, but more like a religion. Generally I just don’t like the way the west is headed, and because Europe is always 20 years behind on American culture, I criticize American culture first. Then again, it’s no different from what Roosh does. But alright, message received, I’ll try to be a bit more positive. And besides, I live here, and it’s a pretty good place to live. You know, whenever children are not being mass murdered. JUST KIDDING.

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The metrosexual image actually started in Europe and was exported to the U.S.

I agree with the rest of your points in this thread though

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A few things: Europe can never agree on anything, see Bosnia or even Syria. Whenever the USA comes in and does something, we are complained about. Further more US Americans are extremely violent and armed. Since genetics do not change that fast, wait till a war breaks out and you will see the kind of violence I am talking about. What kind of people will leave everything they know to cross an ocean or illegal go over a border, a certain type. Sure there is a beat of Botany Bay Australian in us, but fuck Europe and it stupid abortion policy self-destruction. I was a US Army combat arms soldier and most of them are from the South, a place where being military, a man, a hunter, fisherman with a beautiful women is still prized. Also a place where Christianity is from Southern Baptists. They do not f–k around. The Northern European races are self-destructing and it makes me very sad. The USAs immigration policy allows first generation men like me to assimilate and keep the country the one my family loved after WWII and before the feminist poison made our world so sick. One more thing, a war is coming and we are all arming up with whatever we can find, assault weapons, pistols, bows, knives, sharp sticks, and big rocks. It will likely come down to a religious clause in citizenship before the muslim jihad is stopped. In the old days you kept them out and only took the best. My parents had IQs above 145 and were both double MDs and Army officers. Europe is being overrun and has NO CHILDREN. Now Russia? If they can master their own self-loathing let’s burn the Middle East to the ground.

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Bullshit. Britain built the modern world, and the Yanks only caught up in military technology because Britain gifted them their entire research portfolio during WW2 in the hopes the USA could put it to use against the Nazis.

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Okay, so you work with Engineers from many different countries. This means that those engineers, who come from different countries, have different native languages than the engineers who come from The States, right? Unless you only work with engineers who come from England, Canada and Australia, which is the Anglosphere, and which is identical to N.A. anyway.

For example, a Chinese engineer would speak Chinese at home, and a French engineer would speak French at home. So the “bad spelling” that you see in them is in their second, or third, language, which is English, then? Because, unless you speak the native languages of all the engineers from “different countries” you work with, and you’re assessing their ability to spell their native tongue, and you’re concluding that they are poor spellers in their native tongue (because you are 100% fluent, in speaking, spelling and grammar in their native tongues), your argument doesn’t apply. So what you’re saying is that you’re fluent in numerous languages. After all, if you’re just assessing their ability to spell English, and English is their second or third language, and they’re not good at spelling English, then what does that prove?

Anyway, don’t get me wrong, I get that this forum is not about spelling, and I get that men should band together instead of infighting. However, the way I see it is like this, just bear with me for a moment: a person is born in The States. He goes to elementary school in The States, and begins to read and write English. He then goes to middle school and high school in the States, where he continues to learn English. His entire life, he reads English road signs, English restaurant menus (mostly pictures), reads English internet, reads English books and English-everything-else. He then goes to university or college, where everything is taught in English. It is even possible, in North America, to get a university degree in just English, and English alone, and nothing more than English, and then be considered “educated”, which is unthinkable in any other place in the world. By the time he graduates college, he has had some 22 or 23 years of education in one single language, which is English, and as a result of several decades of education in one language, he still cannot even spell the only language he speaks.

How intelligent can this person possibly be?

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They can be extremely intelligent, dumbass. Christ, get over yourself, already!

I’m an excellent speller, but I know people who are not, yet I’m intelligent enough to recognize they are FAR more intelligent than I am.

YOUR ignorance about intelligence is showing.

My son can’t spell “moon”, but he can score an almost perfect 100% score on any mechanical aptitude test.

I’ll bet you cant even change a flat tire, much less top off your car fluids, yet I’m sure your’e convinced your more intelligent than he is.

You AREN’T, cupcake.

I get it. You hate ‘mericans, ‘mericans suck. That’s why so many foreigners attend ‘merican universities – they can get an Engineering degree without being able to spell simple words.

“The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination.” – Albert Einstein

…and you ain’t got it.

Sorry. You’re boring me. Go find a spelling bee somewhere, genius.

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You’re. Sorry, this is hard to type on a phone mid-air.

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Wipe your nose, punk.

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That is the damn truth. I worked in a factory for 15 years. It was an eye opener for me the first time I had to write a reminder note to a guy on the next shift. Turns out he couldn’t even read at a 4th grade level. However, it was nice to work with a bunch of guys, and be able to freely tell any dirty joke you wanted.

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I mentioned the army reserve in another post. Specifically, I was with the military engineers. Simply put, no woman could do our job. We built bridges by hand which meant lifting 100+ pounds to shoulder height and above repeatedly over the course of several hours. The women in our unit took their proper role in administration, logistics and as medics. There is a lot of bullshit GI Jane noise and maybe some girls have made it though their infantry course. However, not a single female that I am aware of has been able to cut it as a 041.

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That’s how my son got a Masters Degree debt free, without a scholarship, being an evil privileged white guy. No woman would shovel snow at 3a.m.and attend night school with the old farts as a student employee. See? Being male has it’s privilege.

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Sometimes I think that I am “normal” and that everyone else has their own version of the fucked up shit I have experienced. At other times I feel an absurd loneliness in thinking that what I have gone though is uniquely twisted: many guys have no frame of reference.

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The only time I spend on women is when I”m extremely horny and need to get some pussy. Other than that, I avoid them like a plague. Can’t stand the typical female complaining, gossiping, bitching all day. Just unbearable to hear their typical conversations outside (not that I’m trying to eavesdrop) and can’t stand their presence at all. Only time I give them the time of the day is when I”m extremely horny.

If you hear them neg all day long, it’s mentally draining. Most of what comes out of their (modern day western women) mouth is fast to turn off any man.

I spend majority of my time reading books, wrestling or practicing BJJ, working out, gaining useful knowledge online, and going to good websites/blogs like this.

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Here’s news: the men with attitudes like yours don’t get laid. I love natural selection!

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Well, if males ain’t able to withstand the pressure or whatever is coming from the society and mainstream media then they fully DESERVE to get feminized and to act like women.
Any normal self respecting male individual should be able to withstand any pressure and propaganda from the mainstream. How come I never changed my thoughts and behaviors when living in a politically correct hell called Canada?

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I don’t think you resisted. Based on your response you seem as anti-man as a militant feminist. Look at your choice of words, “Any normal self respecting male individual.”

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Another pale, friendless virgin living in mom’s basement?

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I agree. When I lived in a traditional culture, women and men had private spaces to socialize. Men and women were segregated. Here, unless you go to a math class or play DOTA women are everywhere.

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But tell me, WHY are y’all folks sooooo damn afraid of having women around?? What’s wrong with that??
I know, I’m married and have my own views, but still WHY should any normal and self respecting male individual be afraid of women?

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LOL, I’ve been married 40 years and women these days are fickle. Feminism totally screwed them up. I love having women around me but just for fun and lightheartedness, anything beyond that is open season.

I work with a lot of women and that’s not so good. Female bosses … the worst and I hear that from women as well as men.

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THIS point of view is indeed correct! Modern women are “removed” very very far from what real women used to be just several decades ago. Feminism, political correctness, quota hiring, affirmative action made a huge impact on modern women turning them into feminazi zombies.
Ain’t nothing bad in being around women for fun, sports and entertainment, but I do agree that having female bosses, coordinators or senior managers is the worst;)

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Sounds like Roosh needs to enlist and become a TRUE NEO MAN

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I’m an older man (55) and I’ve noticed that men under 30 are much more feminine in look and actions. I started referring to them as “Weak Chins”. When I said this a few months ago to my wife, she asked what I meant. After explaining to her that men under 30 have spent so much without male influence due to single moms, daycare and the barrage from MSM to put all White Males under siege the inevitable has happened. Men are no longer men. Now when we see an under 30 guy with thin legs and arms, effeminate gestures and speech cadence, we just say “Weak Chin.”

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Nah man don’t take it out on them. It’s not their fault. They never had a chance to know better. They’ve already had a lifetime of abuse. Any little bit can push them over the edge and all their pent up masculinity comes out at once.

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“Here’s all you have to know about men and women:
women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is
that men are stupid.”-George Carlin

George Carlin got it right so many years ago. For the most part men and women drive each other crazy. We’re so different and we have to constantly socialize with the opposite sex. It’s no wonder to me why both the manosphere and SJW causes both arose at the same time. Frankly, I think both genders are equally agitated by the ceaseless co-ed interaction. I think some sex segregation would be beneficial.

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Carlin forgot to mention that the main reason that men are stupid is because women are crazy ;-P.

Our ancestors did something right in designating some spaces just for men or just for women. People need a healthy balance between time spent with the other sex and time spent just with their own. Otherwise they go crazy. And stupid.

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George spoke from his own experience. He was plain stupid. And he must have driven all crazy, only he didn’t notice the men because his balls drove him to look at only the women.

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Go to Kalifornia to see and speak to feminized men. been in Texas for 15 years went to visit family and just laughed. A Texas man and Kalifornia man are very different indeed.

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I find this to be both true…and hilarious. I am in the throes of getting the F out the USSA.

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Roosh is offering what are essentially Islamic principles, but no one who actually wants to be moral would listen to an immoral person on how to be moral. The irony is that Roosh helped open my eyes to the error of my ways, but now it is getting increasingly hard to follow him because he does not admit to the error of his own ways. I’m heading more towards Zakir Naik and Mufti Menk and such.

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I was not taught Islam by my secular father and I have not learned anything beyond the basics as an adult. If what I’m teaching is indeed Islamic principles, of which I have arrived at solely from my experiences in the USA, South America, and Eastern Europe, then Islam understands masculinity and the true nature of women, and will certainly be victorious in supplanting sterile European populations that currently refuse to reproduce.

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“, then Islam understands masculinity and the true nature of women, and will certainly be victorious in supplanting sterile European populations that currently refuse to reproduce.”

Ironically, Islam’s attitude towards gender is the only thing I agree with Islam, and I agree 10000%. But aside from that, Islam represents criminal insanity.

http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=ccd_1407931049

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I’m not sure I could get behind “an eye for an eye” but they certainly deal with the criminal element better than the west, with our huge incarcerated population. The way I look at it, they want to preserve their way of life. Period. That goal is their first priority, and they will do anything up to and including losing their own life in order to achieve this goal. If the goal is just, is that really a bad rationale?

That gets into very dangerous philosophic territory, because while I view life today in the west as insane, I can’t quantify a certain number of deaths I would be OK with if it brought about the end of feminism. I mean, completely remove females from your life (to the degree that’s possible) and you can still live a pretty good life in the west. So it’s hard to identify with them, even though I do believe their attitude towards sex is correct.

EDIT: OK I know sick atrocities are committed in wartimes, and the US even killed thousands and thousands of innocents in firebombings of Dresden, as well as many other wars since, but after seeing that video, it’s hard to tolerate any movement that supports cutting the head off a man’s body. That was some sick stuff. Maybe they view droning a wedding party the same way, but I just can’t tolerate a movement that is OK with such brutality.

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That’s the key difference. A Muslim would lose his OWN life for his beliefs. Yet in the West we are okay with discussing how many OTHER people would we be okay with dying for the end of feminism.

It has happened all throughout history. Philosophy has no limits, it is not bounded by morality. It is strictly utilitarian. That is why people have killed millions in the name of philosophical ideology.

There is not a single life that could be lost in the name of ending feminism. If a person would accept a single death in the name of ideology than they are just like any of the worst people of history.

Islam knows there are limits. Unfortunately, the Nazis, communists, etc. didn’t know these limits. That’s why Islam is still around after 1400 years while these various ideologies have come around and then quickly died.

Roosh knows these limits: http://www.rooshv.com/when-you-should-not-be-persuasive. He knows you cannot force anyone into a belief in anything. That is why he is a blessing to America and this movement. If people corrupt his ideas, that’s when it becomes dangerous.

Prophet Muhammad knew these limits. The Grand Mufti at the Hajj Pilgrimage in Mecca gave a speech to 3 million Muslims stating that ‘ISIS is the #1 enemy of Islam.’ They know that militancy is the #1 enemy of any social movement. http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/08/19/Saudi-mufti-ISIS-is-enemy-No-1-of-Islam-.html

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No, Muslims love death and destruction nearly as much as sex-slaves and war booty from the kuffar (non-Muslims). That’s why a Muslims ONLY lose his own life for his beliefs, if he can kill kuffar. Every Muslim scholar knows this, so Muslims, unlike Christians, are permitted to lie about being a Muslim if faced with any danger.

I can show you thousands of documented cases, just in 2015, where Christians would rather be martyred than denying Jesus Christ. Show me ONE Muslim doing the same. Christianity have TRUE Martyrs, Islam don’t.

Islamic scholars say that the only reason why Islam still exists is that Muslims kill anyone trying to leave their Satanic and evil death cult:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMu8ihDlVA&list=WL

Islam has ZERO limits when it comes to unleash hell on earth and destroy non-Muslims.

Timur Lenk killed approx 5% of the world population. Only reason why he did not kill more people, is that his men were exhausted and asked the scholars if it were not OK for pagans (Indians) to live and pay the extortion tax (jizyah), even though they were not people of the book.

The pig Muhammad had NO limits. Before Islam, Ramadan was a holy month were fighting were forbidden. Well, the super evil and false pedo-“prophet” couldn’t care less and raided and slaughtered caravans as much as possible, as they had no weapons and protection during the holy month of peace.

Muslims can only have four wives, Muhammad as many as he wished. He saw the wife of his son partly naked and went crazy with lust, so he married her.

Muhammad lied about everything, including peace-treaties. And because of that, Muslims can do the same today. It is called “Hudna” in Islam.

I could go on and on about super-evil Islam and Mummad.

The Saudi family promotes Wahhabi Islam with tens of billions of dollars throughout the Western world, to conquer the world for Islam. In return the Wahhabi shaykhs ignore the vile hedonism, drug abuse and pathological sex from the al Saud family, while all other Muslims live in dirt and poverty with zero support from the rich Gulf states.

Da’esh just don’t care and wish to topple the Saud family so ALL the revenues of Saudi Arabia can go to Jihad and mujahedeen fighters. THAT is why the Saud family and Wahhabi clerics see Da’esh as an enemy.

You will NOT see any of the Islamic clerics in Saudi Arabia say it is wrong to behead POWs, rape captive female war booty, sell (sex) slaves at the market etc.

Islam ONLY produces insane third world Islamic hell holes, and the so-called Islamic “golden age” is a total lie. Islam is the most evil and destructive religion the world has ever seen. Even Satanists don’t routinely kill they own children if they leave Satanism.

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You are committing a faulty generalization. How many people are in Da’esh? There are over 2 billion Muslims in the world. How do you explain the military of Pakistan and Afghanistan fighting against the Islamic terrorists, when Pakistan and Afghanistan are Islamic countries? 80% of Pakistan’s budget goes to the military to fight terrorists along the Afghanistan border. Why are there terrorist attacks in Pakistan, against Muslims, for example the 2014 Peshawar Massacre of children? The overwhelming majority of Muslims, like most humans, want a peaceful place to raise their family. The family is the most important element in Islam, not killing non-Muslims.

Before Prophet Muhammad, female babies were commonly buried alive because families wanted sons. He helped to give them prestige by making them ‘equal’ to men, not in the feminist sense, but in the sense of being the counterpart, ying-yang to man.

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You are a true Muslim liar. 80% of Pakistan’s budget does not go to fighting Muslim terrorists.

In an online survey by Muslim news channel al Jazeera (note Arabic speaking – not the white washed English speaking) over 80% supported Da’esh! And these are educated Muslims that can read and have access to a computer and internet (most Muslims don’t).

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/580221/Islamic-State-support-Arab-world-poll-finds

When Muslims have no more kuffar in their country to kill, rape and extort money from, they always start to fight among themselves.

Pepsi and Coca Cola were fighting like crazy for market shares. Using your false and deceitful “reasoning” they both should have been very different from each other due to the fighting, and not that they were fighting so hard because they were de facto more or less distinguishable.

As all Muslim countries are corrupt and criminal to the core, they will always have many Muslim groups fighting each other for market shares. Like Mafia groups do.

No, Muslims and the leaders fighting Taliban and al-Qa’ida are not peaceful and in opposition to Da’esh, al-Qa’ida etc on a theological stand point, only a tactical one.

Name one major Muslim group that denounce offensive Jihad in Islam (Muslim group speaking in Arabic to a Muslim audience – not western Muslims – like CAIR – lying to the kuffar). Name one major Muslim group that says that Islam shall not conquer the world with the sword. Name one Muslim group that denounce that Muslims shall be above non-Muslims in every way (legal, economically, authority etc).

The family is the most important element in Islam, not killing non-Muslims.

Yeah, right, Muslim liar, show me just one quote from the Qur’an or Sahih hadeeth that says that family is more important than Jihad for the sake of Allah (aka Satan).

What a joke. You are lying through your teeth to defend your super-evil and satanic “religion” from hell.

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Before Prophet Muhammad, female babies were commonly buried alive because families wanted sons. He helped to give them prestige by making them ‘equal’ to men, not in the feminist sense, but in the sense of being the counterpart, ying-yang to man.

Again, women in Islam can be war booty, raped, held as sex slave, beaten, married off against her will, forced to have sex with a man before puberty, cover herself, can’t go where she want without permission/male guardian, share husband with other wives/concubines, in court her testimony is only worth half of a man and she will thus always lose against her husband per se, if she marry a non-Muslim man she will be killed, if she is raped – she must provide four male Sunni witnesses that actually saw the penetration – or she will be stoned to death. Even if she can provide video of the rape, this will be dismissed by a Sharia court as irrelevant as Islamic teaching only admits witnesses but no video/DNA etc.

To claim that Muslimahs are “equal” to men in any way is insane.

The first wife of Muhammad, Khadijah, was a rich business woman. She could trade, have legal contracts and properties, go wherever and whenever she wanted. This was the freedom and status of women in pre-Islamic Arabia. So when the Muslim women complained that they had it better before Islam, evil Muhammad gave them an obscure answer that before Arabs used to bury female babies. The Arabs told the Muslims that it was not true, but the myth lives on in the Muslim world even today, to defend a really bad treatment of women in Islam.

Women in pre-atheist Europe behaved like women and were treated like women, with classic morality, without the cruelty and barbarism found in Islam.

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Islam understands it, and Judaism and Christianity understood it but became diluted. The strictest Jews and Christians still adhere strongly to the structures you refer to. Note that the birth rates of Israeli Jews are strongly correlated with their strictness of adherence to the orthodoxy. Only the most orthodox have birth rates higher than replacement. I see little reason to believe that Islam will not become similarly diluted over time.

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It seems that some of the most religious even slept man and wife in separate bedrooms. They really wanted to keep passion, mystery, and anticipation alive. It is a shame the West does not understand these three concepts anymore.

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I can’t help but see your work as following in the line of Sufism, although I could be wrong. From my understanding Sufism is wisdom predating Islam, with a strong emphasis on experience and interaction as the path to wisdom, not monasticism or isolation. So one need not be Muslim to reach knowledge of the fundamental principles. From my understanding, Islam means nothing more than ‘submission to the laws of nature.’ Yet in this definition, then, it is impossible to ‘predate’ Islam, as Islam is the law of nature.

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You have no clue what Islam is. If you go to any Muslim country, including Turkey, you will be called a munafiq and risk being killed.

You are a western convert to Islam, right? And can only parrot what Muslims have told you to snare you into Islam.

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Devout Christians see children as a true blessing, and have a lot of them.

The ” sterile European populations” are mainly so, due to spiritually dead atheism.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/edwest/100029971/atheism-is-doomed-the-contraceptive-pill-is-secularisms-cyanide-tablet/

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Oh, and thank you very much for standing up for all of us and defend sane morality, social order and our Western Civilization.

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No, the Islamic treatment of women is hellish and pathologically insane.

When Da’esh are raping women and prepubertal girls, having them in cages and selling them on the market, they are merely doing what the super-evil and false “prophet” Muhammad did, al-Insaan al-Kaamil (اَلإِنْسَانِ الكَامِلْ), the person who has reached perfection, and the four “righteous Caliphs” (الخلفاء الراشدون) did.

One of the worlds largest and most popular Sunni Fatwa Banks, by Muslims and for Muslims, gives a good insight into what true Islam REALLY is. Not the kind of Euro-Islam that English speaking Muslim apologetics gives to Kuffar (non-Muslims) or the kind of religion of Peace Islam that Western Marxist college professors, haters of Western Civilization and Christianity, indoctrinate their students with (and thereby our politicians and media talking heads).

Can you please mention which of these Islamic principles Roosh is following?

Muslims are commanded to conduct Jihad. Some of the reasons are humiliating the kuffar, war booty, and taking kuffar girls as war booty (sex-slaves)
http://islamqa.info/en/34647

Enemy kuffar women (non Muslims) can be taken as war booty and used as sex slaves:
http://islamqa.info/en/12562

Also married Muslim men are allowed to have kuffar (non-Muslim) girls as sex slaves
http://islamqa.info/en/10382

It is not adultery or rape for a Muslim man to force his female kuffar (non-Muslim) war booty to sex.
http://islamqa.info/en/20802

So in Islam it is OK to rape non-Muslims, Kuffar, but you can’t take them as friends:
http://islamqa.info/en/2179

Muslims can not be ruled by kuffar (non-Muslims). Islam is here to dominate, not to be dominated:
http://islamqa.info/en/82681

It is haram (forbidden) for Muslims to honour kafir (non-Muslim) in any way. Including farewell parties:
http://islamqa.info/en/32560

Greeting a kafir (non-Muslim) is haram (forbidden). The kafir must always greet a Muslim first:
http://islamqa.info/en/48966

It is forbidden for a Muslim woman to pluck or shave her eyebrows:
http://islamqa.info/en/13744

Female genital mutilation (cutting clitoris) is Sunnah (model to be followed) for Muslim women:
http://islamqa.info/en/427

Wife beating is OK in Islam:
http://islamqa.info/en/41199

If a raped woman can not produce four male Sunni witnesses who witnessed the sexual parts coming together, she will be stoned for adultery:
http://islamqa.info/en/158282

Even if the rape is on video, but without four male Sunni witnesses, she will be stoned to death:
http://islamqa.info/en/6926

A woman can work and be with other men if she has breastfed them:
http://islamqa.info/en/111872

Pedophilia and marrying prepubertal girls is OK in islam:
http://islamqa.info/en/12708

A Muslim father can marry off his child daughter against her will:
http://islamqa.info/en/22442

A divorced (three talaaq) Muslim woman must first marry and have sex with another Muslim man, before she can go back to her Islamic husband;
http://islamqa.info/en/11798

Lying to the kuffar (non-Muslims) is permissible in Islam:
Arabic only: http://islamqa.info/ar/154955

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They are Christian principles as well, women are to be silent in the church. Unfortunately Christianity has been feminized to the point that it is no longer Christianity.

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“Choose to spend your free time with men so your masculinity remains strong and steady”

Provided of course one has male friends who are not girly, auto fellating, and faggy. Finding masculine male friends is becoming more difficult these days.

I do agree too that a smart guy shouldnt be too masculine, but rather he should remain flexible in his behavior to finese his way to the stinkbox of today’s females.

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Another coward troll who does not have the balls to use a genuine identity…

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Ive once worked as a technician in a DataCenter where 98% of the staff consisted of men. Best job I ever had.

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Are you gay?

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I have to say, I spent almost no time around females growing up… very very little. I was in the boyscouts growing up, spent alot of time exclusively around men doing manly things like camping, shooting guns at stuff, making huge fires, hiking and doing alot of manual labour. Yet, by the time I was 14, despite having all this masculine reinforcement in my life, I became a rather effeminate gay guy. I still enjoyed all that manly stuff but I also was really in touch with my femininty despite having almost no contact with girls my whole life. I still to this day have only 1 female friend. everyone else i hangout with is a guy. and theyre almost all heterosexual too. If anything, im clearly the antithesis to this claim, I spent so much time around male figures and I ended up being so attracted to males that I started to adopt more feminine qualities, like having long hair and wearing tightwr clothing and so on, in hopes that maybe one of the other guys would like me. I wanted to be held by another guy and I wanted to share the bed with a masculine body and hear a guys voice tell me he loved me. now I also am the kind of guy who despite being gay and feminine, also enjoys shooting guns and football and beer and doing all sorts of regular guy stuff.

So… after almost exclusively male influence in my life, i ended up as a gay guy who likes both girls things and guy stuff… I dont see how hanging around men all the time is going to make you feel more heterosexual.

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I don’t think that it’s stated or implied that being around men makes you heterosexual. Rather, it’s that, in general, time spent around women feminizes you, and vice versa. I have personally noted that when I act in a feminine manner around women, I get affirmed for doing so. If I act in a masculine way, they may be attracted, but it’s less overt than the affirmation or approval for being feminine. Since the latter signals are easier to read, it’s easy to unconsciously respond to them more than attraction signals.
In any event, these environmental influences are not all that strong. Innate characteristics tend to win out, as you found.

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“It’s no shock that the most successful players I know are not ultra-masculine at all, but have many feminine traits that actually allow them to connect more easily with women…”

Great point. I remember a friend of mine that used to get trim right and left. He could chat with women for hours, talking about the most trivial bullshit as if it had relevance.

Ironically though, he has had quite a bit of trouble in his marriage (he is on his second now).

Perhaps the qualities that get a woman into bed are not the same ones that result in a happy marriage.

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this is why i always said that most men think they need to act like a bitch to get a bitch.

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Typical… American women, as well as men are being heavily poisoned. Possibly more so than any other culture in the world. The phenomena that you are noticing, and are trying to articulate is not that phenomenal.

A person in the woods once saw something that was pleasant to the eyes, but was not food. That person ate it, upon doing so he became sick, because it was not food. This is more akin to what is taking place, the psychological effects of consuming things that are not biologically acceptable for humans are indeed very detrimental to humans. Now of course it is not just the food in America that poisons, but it is a large portion of it. One also has to consider the environmental, as well as medicinal toxins.

Additionally, Americans are the most likely to believe that they are as you say “like monkeys”, so they have whilst consuming these poisons have also suffered the loss of identity, and have attempted to replace that identity with a false one. The repercussions of what you see are most noticeable in the areas of behavior. For men it is easy to see these behavioral differences in Women. For Women, it creates the necessity to feel ill will towards men. I could explain more in depth, but in short, the poisons which Americans are more likely to be exposed to, and then portray as being a positive, are making them less.

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While masculine men have no problems getting a woman, I’m starting to suspect that men without feminine personality traits will find it hard to gather the ability and motivation to lay a lot of them in a playboy manner.

This is me in a nutshell. I even have to turn down a lot of women who offer themselves to me as to avoid the evil influence a woman has on man.

I’m married too and people ask me when I am with my wife as they really see us us together. They usually ask me: When does your wife sees you? I replied: Almost never, as when we’re together I’m inside her! LOL

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The kids today act gay. The reason for this is cause gay behaviour is mainstream where kids follow herd mentality. If they see men acting feminine and women acting muscular, they think this is normal behaviour.

I hate being in the west, can’t wait to head back to the East! I feel like im living in a mental society. Oh wait i am…

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very well said

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And its the same with POC’s/progressives/leftists and their victimhood mentality. These people have learned through observation that one of the few ways to gain moral status in the West is to be a victim of oppression. So all these people know how to do is to try to make themselves out to be victims, and since there is very little actual “oppression” they have to resort to inventing concepts like “microaggressions” and “white privilege”. Its all getting pretty hilarious actually.

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Sounds like you’re whining like the victims you portray.

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Except there is a legitimate reason for my complaint.

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Heh, again you think all gays are feminine.
Remember that there are three types of Gays.
Alpha = Hypermasculine
Beta = Feminine
Wanna-Be Alphas = They play masculine in leather, bushy mustaches, deepen their voices, get tattoos & piercings, and the moment they’re in the bedroom it’s legs up begging to be drilled.
If you’re going to mimic a group, be the Alphas or at least be a decent Wanna-Be. Boys that are wavering should be given these hints so at least the Fem-Boys aren’t batting for the FemiNASTY team of backstabbing bitches.

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I agree about not be ‘friends’ with women. I haven’t even had sex for ages, but I don’t really care, I have no time or money to waste around women at all. When I am horny, I jerk off and am fine for a few hours. I do it when needed, and get onto other things. I don’t even think of women anymore, and I am not missing them at all. I absolutely refuse to be ‘friends’ with women, even if it’s a woman I would not have sex with. I am so disconnected from women that I have no desire at all to hear their stupid shit anyways. If you are a man, you ONLY have male friends. No female ‘friends’. I respect women, not because they are women, but because I generally respect everybody until someone gives me a reason to do otherwise.
But I absolutely agree about not having female ‘friends’, it makes no sense, because men and women are TOO different. The last woman I spoke to was 2 years ago, she invited me to do some stuff with her (not sex), I said I wanted to have sex with her, she refused but still kept treating me like her older brother or something. She continued to be very friendly, but as soon as she refused to have sex, I ‘dumped’ her immediately, stopped responding to her texts, and deleted her from my memory. I have no time to waste. As for friends, my only friends are MEN. We only talk about MEN’s stuff. I don’t care how friendly a woman is toward me, I might say hello to her and ask how’s she’s doing when I see her at the mall, but that’s it. No ‘friends’. I just am way too removed from a woman’s world. I don’t understand it. Oh, by the way: you should NEVER try to understand a woman’s world, you’ll f**k yourself up big time.

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Forcing yourself into interacting with thousands of women doesn’t sound like fun, it sounds like a nightmare.

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All women should be treated as disabled people and institutionalisd to prevent them from interacting in everyday life with males, except for sex.

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You’re such a coward that you can’t use your real name.

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Heh, I think “Anal Marriage ” is the norm. Most women are assholes with very rare exceptions.

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kill yourselves you rapist fucking idiots. you all are a disgrace to the male sex and to civilised standards. I cannot believe that this fucking rubbish is being touted as a philosophy in the 21st century. It is you people who are weak in your masculinity in so much as you have to “produce” a game to get women. Try being friendly charming and patient and you may get a woman to like you rather than ending up in jail for Rape by listening to this cheap rate pick up artist. Writen by a real man by the way not a fuck obbsessed easily led FOOL,,,

Don’t bother replying as i wouldn;t talk to your sort if you were dying…Call me feminised etc if you like but say to my face and i’d kick your fucking nasty women bothering inadequate teeth down your fucking ugly throats, then we’d see who’s feminised. Women dont need this, they need real men with morals and values, not a slimy fucking hipster with a scraggy beard that will use any means to fuck and promote his ego preaching this hateful sexually violent claptrap…Roosh V you are a fuck obsessed loudmoth Sex pest that gets the rest of us a bad name with women..,The internet is where you belong with all the other online douchebags.

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This is why Autistic people and others with “social disabilities” are vastly superior to you neurotypicals. We can’t really be brainwashed or lead to act differently from the way we are meant to act, we’re literally incapable of it. We are born to be ourselves no matter how hard any element of society pushes for us to be otherwise. I’d even go so far as to suggest that we’re not really socially disabled but socially superior and the neurotypicals who are in the majority just can’t handle it. Waste all the time you want trying to “normalize” us but in the end you will fail. Ultimately as the numbers of the supposedly socially disabled rise we will correct the failings of your society and permanently end the ridiculous “battle of the sexes”, which believe it or not was started by feminists. No, not modern day feminists, way back when feminists, because it’s true that those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and that’s exactly what’s happening now. Fortunately nature abhors imbalance and it is making strides as we type/speak to correct the horrible imbalances that have been going on for far too long.

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You’ve got it categorically wrong. Men dress and act according to female preferences, according to well-established evolutionary theory. Males have plummage, females are dressed for stealth and survival. In modern society, if men are shaving their chests and wearing ear-rings, it’s because those cues enhance their attractiveness to females which increases their opportunity for sexual reproduction. So you can go all macho, but your breeding stock will be from the Trailer Park, not Park Avenue.

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Good points raised I also agree 100% women are degraded they have freedom and this causes a loss for most women who cant balance the power of being finiancally indepandant

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this was so fucking hilarious i almost peed! WHOO! What i time to be alive!

Like shit, I just want to douse myself in gasoline and shoot a firework up my ass!

A+ material my man. Couldn’t have said it better myself.

ME MAMA MIA BELLE BONITA

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Women pollute and destroy everything, they say the worst can happen to a boy is to be raised by women, and you should only pay attention to those unfortunate grown among girls.

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I’ve been living as a masculine man independent of society’s influence for a long time. It isn’t easy. The workplace is designed around the emotional needs of women. By being myself, I’m seen as aggressive and inflexible. My desire to conquer and win is misunderstood by even my male colleagues. It’s sad. While there are women who do still appreciate a masculine male, they are few and far between in California. Here, all the beta cucks are willing to act like women for a shot at being their meal ticket. I also find my masculine behavior is incompatible with dating. I don’t give a damn, I will be myself and call her BS when I see it. Most modern American women are spoiled and would rather fight and disrespect a beta male than deal with the insecurities I point out. I very well may live my days out as an old bachelor, but I will do so on my terms and happily. I can do whatever I want whenever I want and there is no answering to an overbearing woman trying to challenge my dominance at every turn. I can’t help but laugh when I see them write “there are no good men left”; no, we just aren’t willing to tolerate your immature and emotionally unstable behavior.

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If it was 1940 man you would not be saying this shit unless all american men are in a faggot organization

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I think this is alluding to something that does exist but takes it way too far. Trying to say that you shouldn’t be around females at work, school or be friends with them unless they open up sexual opportunities, is just fucking dumb. Women are cool in a lot of ways, and they provide things men can’t in any situation. As a masculine man, surely you should be able to see the value in that. Advising men, of all persuasions, to segregate themselves from women, if employed fully, would be catastrophic for the functioning of pretty much all critical societal infastructure. Furthermore, being scared that dwelling in the company of a woman will scar your masculinity is in itself a hugely feminine trait. If you’re that tender about it to begin with, it can be all that solid in the first place. A true embodiment of raw masculinity should be grounded, remaining steadfast in his masculine prowess, regardless of the company he keeps. That in itself is a defining trait of true masculinity if you ask me. Just because you spend some time with a few women in a non sexual way, doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you want to get a manicure and dress up like a cheer leader. If it does, you were kidding yourself all along from the get go son.

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So wouldwit be better to send a boy to an all boys school? My son is 6 and I sometimes feel he’s not as boisterous as he was when he was around 4. He seems shy and a bit timid and could this be because of a coed school?

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to socialize men as women was just one last ditch effort to try to keep men alive…she is so long suffering…..(God) she tries so hard to make man acceptable…as bible says “let not your son cease,the apple of your eye,him you dandled on your knee(mother imagery) nice try though..no sons are seen…where is this son? it was all a trick to get women to breed through using her heartstrings? its her life/lifespan/life source..you men are growing in a garden…as weeds it says… “they are a burden for you to bear I will remove them from you daughter zion” she cant bear sons….that are as her/same as her for they “whine and complain” it says woe to those who complain how they were made! or those who say “she didn’t make me” (Isaiah 29 all blown to chaff suddenly and instantly” who torment a “her” girl….) enter as a child or in no wise enter…yet you all want sex from your ‘mother’ men feel it these days..its why they are voicing all this same as Bible said they would right before being removed FOR complaining….”they will be called rejected silver for the lord has rejected them” you don’t accept who and what you are..you try to manipulate it…and then you wonder why women call you abusive and whine about that too….daughter zion says “my soul faints due to the ‘murderers'” (parasites of her lifespan) she is saying its not a labor of love but that she is eaten by parasites….that’s why you come out foul…”conceived in disgrace/I will not show my love to them/I will starve them/kill with drought”) you cant reason your way out of what you are.and will be removed if you don’t love what you are.its just nature. youre seen as a “foreign body” if you don’t joy in what you are and instead attack it. some abortions are monsters!! they take form as grown human males recycled and still failed.i would set you free. you don’t need to breed or confuse motherly/Godly love with human women you abuse.its ok to admit youre just not made right. you will be placed where life suits you better. cant be father son husband all at once. and you failed to choose one. you teeter between them and so you abuse. the answer is no. women deserve to be whole without males. that cant decide what they are. its not in your power to decide what you are anyway. woman made you. and some became a natural enemy just as God said.. “I planted you wholly good why then when I returned I found you a wild vine to me?” it means even he admits he is at a loss for this vine. “how can I heal you and with what shall I compare you that you can be healed?” men keep talking PAST the lost cause and that’s not breedable or functional. men who can see its a lost cause show some sense. life is not in your hands. every male on earth knows he will die one day . yet he still pretends that through a woman he will live. through breeding..but even THAT lifespan comes to an end and gets tapped out. if final result is mother son I can see why she is vomiting. men till want sex. “due to this “present “distress” separate for a time…(no sex in marriage) “she is happier if she doesn’t marry” “better if he were to remain as I and not marry” if a mans lust is a reason to marry become muslim and marry first cousins….and make sure to offer up your daughters for another mans lust…….”I will make your fathers your sons” plenty of women out there haven’t awakened yet…you still have a few to choose from…however they are as angry as you are.