The following is an interview with the American man who goes by the name of Fisto on RVF. He recently came back from an incredible Southeast Asia trip where he fornicated with nearly 100 girls in 5 months. His game and ability has been vouched by several men. I interviewed him to find out more.
You went to Southeast Asia recently and had sex with 96 girls. Can you give more details about your success along with what you did to make it happen? What type of game did you use? What were some hurdles you had to overcome?
I spent 2 months in Thailand, the rest of the time I was in Vietnam, Indonesia, and the Philippines. In Thailand, the girls are very, very, intimidated. I learned that if you make even the smallest amount of eye contact, that is a good indicator that she’s interested. It’s so subtle that you would actually think the opposite considering how quickly they look away (RVF member Rionomad taught me this). There, I had to tone down the vibe a bit.
I realized pretty quick that Thais in general can get overwhelmed and they just mentally shut down. It’s like when your computer freezes, there’s just nothing there. THC (another member) and I just started carrying around scraps of paper with our numbers already written on them. We’d almost have to force girls to take the paper only to hear from them later, apologizing. Honestly, Thailand was my least favorite place, so many chumps go there and give the rest of us a bad reputation. Decent girls are sometimes reluctant to go out with you because they don’t want anyone they know to think they’re whores. In addition, I flat out hated being associated with these guys that were obviously paying for sex. I was able to learn a bit of Thai and it really wasn’t until I returned there for a 2 week stopover after Indonesia that I felt dialed in and really started having more success.
In Vietnam, I had one of my hottest bangs ever. This girl was just attractive on so many levels. I was there 3 weeks and I can tell you, forget going out to try and pick up good girls or thinking you can shore (get free sex out of a prostitute). “Good” girls are not likely to be out in most of the clubs we came across (In Saigon anyway) and these girls that are hookers are too hardcore.
The pros might like you but they were just as stubborn about getting you to pay as I was about the principle of NOT paying. In Thailand, shoring (banging a prostitute was free) was pretty standard by the end of the night. In Vietnam, you would literally have to “get lucky” to find that. I think Vietnam is all about day game and online game. You’ve got to have your logistics dialed in regarding having a hotel that allows guests and you better be sure you know where you are. Taxis are ruthless there. I actually jumped out of a few cabs when they started trying to rip me off. One tried to chase me down after I jumped out of the window. The doors wouldn’t open and he kept driving when I was telling him to stop in Vietnamese and I lost him on a one way street by changing direction and running behind his car.
Indonesia was a welcome relief and where I first started doubling up consistently. I went from being just another “falang” in Thailand (and even in Vietnam) to exploiting the “white god factor”. THC and I would walk by and girls would stare at us and give each other high fives if we smiled at them. The only thing holding you back in that place is the language barrier. Bahasa Indonesion is very easy to pick up since there isn’t much grammar and it sounds phonetically the way it’s spelled. There’s so many fine women in that place, it was hard to leave. Everywhere I looked there was a girl I wanted to smash. It reminded me of Latin culture because of the passion the girls had. Coming from two very reserved places and then jumping into that was great. The girls have these curvy bodies and the sex was amazing. Girls in Thailand were pretty terrible in bed by comparison, even the pros weren’t any good (and you’d expect them to be since it’s their job).
Lastly there was the Philippines, my favorite place. In Thailand, no one gives a damn about where you are from. The close mindedness was off the charts. You’re just a farang there. Unless you are talking about Thailand or Thai food, the girls have almost no interest. I remember being out and that remix song “If you’re going to San Francisco” by Scott McKenzie came on and all the girls were singing the chorus at the top of their lungs. I asked “Do you know where San Francisco is?” She looked at me and said “No”. I was amazed that these girls had been singing this song for years and it never dawned on them to ask where San Francisco was. Or when I’d say I’m from Las Vegas, I’d be met with a blank stare, compared to in the Philippines girls and guys alike would be excited to talk about it. IN FLUENT ENGLISH.
There I met people that I shared intrinsic interests with. It was a huge obstacle to negotiate these language barriers everywhere else but in Manila even the garbage men spoke English. In addition, Thailand thinks of Muay Thai as being low class, and my background in MMA was really a demonstration of lower value (unless I was talking to some low class girls), In Manila, I was treated like a rockstar. Girls wanted pictures, clubs comped me and my friends cover charges, and the guys wanted to be friends. It was great. I ran into one guy from the forum who introduced me to all sorts of people in his social circle so I was almost dialed in from the beginning. It’s here that I banged more girls than the other 3 places combined (I also stayed here the longest). It wasn’t uncommon for me to triple up new notches 3 or 4 days in a row and then have 2 regular girls come by a day also.
The girl that was just a friend that helped me get my short term apartment was telling me that the leasing agent was saying the whole hotel staff was talking about the number of girls I was bringing back.
At the end looking back, my biggest obstacle in all four countries (just like everywhere really) is drinking too much. I lost a phone in each country while too fucked up. I had to start from zero with all my contacts and there was a lull between losing a phone and getting a new one. I probably missed about a dozen notches because of that.
THC jokes about putting a “buy Fisto an iphone” button on our blog.
With such stupendous success, it’s predictable that many basement dwellers will try to diminish your feat by saying you are exaggerating or had sex with unattractive girls. What do you say to that?
To be perfectly honest, I feel like I missed out on a ton of new notches. I’d get pissed off and impatient and tell girls to piss off. I’d forget to follow up, I’d be hungover and cancel, I’d want to actually experience the culture and take a break from going out every night. I missed out on dozens of notches just from being a poor planner. (I wrote an article on how to do the same thing I did with scheduling, logistics, and different kinds of “dates” to have the same success.)
As far as doubters, I really reminds me of a Marcus Aurelius quote I’m sure I’ll butcher but the gist is “Don’t doubt a man’s feat just because you have never heard of such an act, but rather, assume because he did it, you can do it too.”
In regards to haters or basement dwellers, I expected the hate. All I can say is that I’ve met a lot of guys from the RVF forum that can vouch for my success. They can also vouch for the fact that I’ve screwed up a lot as well.
As far as the quality of women, I consider myself to have pretty good standards and while I did fuck some unattractive girls on occasion, I’d say almost 95% passed the boner test and that is the only thing I care about (the only thing any man should care about in my opinion). I’ve posted photos on the blog and RVF, and I think most guys would agree I bang quality girls.
What do you think of Thailand as a country? What are its strengths and weaknesses? Is it somewhere that you can see yourself living long-term? Would you recommend it to white guys in America who are struggling to get laid?
Thailand is probably the place I feel most conflicted about. It’s got so many pros and cons that the list is almost endless. It’s strengths are the relative cost of living for a Westerner and modern infrastructure as well as the median quality of girl. It’s cons to me are pretty high as well. The people are very close minded, not intellectually curious, and behind all those smiles is some straight up evil intentions if you do something they don’t like. As a white man, you might be considered attractive, but you are still a 2nd class citizen.
I wouldn’t recommend a guy who is struggling to get laid in America go there and think he just has to show up to bang an attractive girl. It doesn’t work like that. I can’t tell you how many times I saw some guy with some ugly semi pro acting like he was on top of the world. Actually maybe it is a good idea for a guy with no game to go there as long as he’s willing to pay money. Ignorance is bliss they say. I could never be satisfied with those sort of results myself but to each his own.
Vietnam – I’ll be the first to admit THC and I fucked this trip up. We had planned to take a motorcycle ride up the Ho Chi Minh trail from Saigon to Hanoi but we were too drunk, too hungover, and too disorganized to get it done in time for a wedding we were invited to in Indonesia. We even started saying “Don’t Vietnaminate this!” when we didn’t want to screw something up.
Vietnam is a potential gold mine for a guy that can stay there for a little while. There are a ton of good girls and virgins there and it’s a neat place to be as well.
Indonesia – This place is badass. I loved it. Jakarta is a bit of a shithole, the traffic sucks, and there’s not much to do but the quality of girls and your status as a foreigner are immense. I want to go back and spend some more time at some point.
Philippines – This is where a guy struggling with game and girls should go. You can come here and really work on your game. It’s like batting practice. You can potentially have so many interactions with girls and experience feminine nature on such a large scale that your game has to improve. It’s great for your confidence and for desensitizing the tendency to put pretty women on a pedestal. I would say learning game in the U.S. is like training with weights, then you go to a place like the Philippines and you can really work on things. If you don’t have game, these girls will walk all over you as soon as they sense your frame is weak. They’ll exploit you if they can. This is where you get to fit in so much volume in a short period that your LMR skills get honed, your frame get’s rewarded for being strong.
You went back to the States for a short time after your Thailand experience. What were your thoughts about encountering American women again? Were they easier or harder to game? Were you happy to interact with them again?
Going back to the States was depressing for a lot of reasons. Chiefly, it was that NOTHING had changed. I would catch up with friends and it was like they were in the movie Groundhog Day.
Girls had their typical shitty attitudes and all the other negative things we can list but I had done a good job of keeping the fires warm with my harem and I was able to step right back into it.
My level of notches per/day plummeted but that has a lot to do with my decision to take a break from drinking and going out. I’m still getting some new notches of high quality, and that definitely helps but the girls here are just so unattractive as people. I think the SEA trip was great for my inner game. That sheer number of interactions and volume of women in a short period of time gives you unexpected insights that you simply won’t get unless you experience it. On top of that, having another comrade on the same level to analyze things and push you to do better was a huge help. The fact is, you have to have game if you want to get higher value women in any country.
I’ve noticed that I simply don’t give a flying fuck about the opinion of women anymore. I thought I didn’t care before but I realize I actually did. I used to care a great deal. But somewhere along the way I realized that believing in yourself and accomplishing things of merit will give you a sense of value that’s independent of anyone else’s summation. It’s a liberating feeling when you finally internalize the “take it or leave it” sentiment. It’s strange but I think a big part of achieving that is banging a large number of women. You start realizing that there is not much special about them. They are “nice” when it’s convenient for them. They’re children emotionally, and who could take a child’s opinion about almost anything seriously? This may sound harsh but it’s the conclusion I’ve come to. I made deep connections with some girls but again, I think that was more out of accepting their flawed nature and being real about how they are.
It has been said that intense travel experiences change you to such an extent that you are unable to resume the life you left behind. Are you finding this to be true? Have you noticed ways the trip has changed you?
This trip really gave me a lot of insights into women as well as my own life. I was on a roller coaster when it came to satisfaction and being fulfilled in my life before this trip. I observed some things about myself and I noticed that I felt my best when I was doing at least 3 out of the following 4 things:
1. Going to battle / Being physically fit – Some kind of martial arts training combined with a fitness regimen.
2. Problem Solving / Learning new skills and sharpening old ones – For me, travel and learning the language of the place I was in was very rewarding. Just negotiation how to get from point A to point B without the taxi trying to rip you off was an obstacle that would give you a sense of satisfaction.
3. Productivity in your profession – Pretty self explanatory. I realized that as much as I love MMA and fighting, I don’t want to toil in obscurity just to maybe get a few fights in the UFC. I want to make travel and reporting on the places I go and my experiences my “job”. I don’t know how to monetize it but I’ve learned to believe in myself, I think if I keep going an opportunity will present itself.
4. Positive social interactions that lead to sex – I think all of these are genetic movers but this one is probably the one that is most powerful. It’s not that women’s opinions matter, but it is that you as a social animal and “alpha male” have a harem of women that you control.
I noticed I feel the most fulfilled and satisfied with my own life when at least 3 of the 4 things are being met at once.
I’m working it out now but I really believe this is true for all men. I believe this is how we as MEN can actually be happy.
What are your future travel and professional plans?
THC, 20Nation, and myself have decided to join forces and start a blog called SwoopTheWorld.com. We cover our travel experiences, drop data sheets, lay reports, game insights we’ve had, adventures we’ve gotten into, and soon we will start having interviews with men of stature that can share their own insights and adventures.
I’m headed to Spain for about 3-4 months and then I want to go try and do another 6 month trip in South America.
Do you have any final words of wisdom for guys who want to accomplish you have?
Every man owes it to himself to put his happiness up as his highest moral calling. Your choices are your own and to hell with anyone that thinks differently. I think it’s sometimes best to keep your dreams to yourself because haters will try and kill it or sabotage you. I think productivity in those four areas I outlined earlier is the key to getting your inner game down and being comfortable in your own skin.
Some other observations: I saw how true the “Red Pill/Blue Pill” analogy is. Once you shake off what society has brainwashed you into thinking is right for you, you understand it’s only right for women and NOT for you. And people have a hard time facing that, even to the extent it’s easier for them to LIE to themselves and convince themselves they don’t want that. Any MAN saying “I don’t want to bang many different women, get to know many hot girls and having a good time with them, understanding them, getting them at their own game, controlling them better and having them thank you and love you on a deeper level even in return” is deluding himself.
Lastly, I’d like to thank Roosh, RVF, and the rest of the guys out there that contribute to this thing we are all doing.
Read more about Fisto’s adventures and game tips at Swoop The World.