How The Government Is Robbing Men Of Good Wives

There are many countries in Eastern Europe that have superior women than in America, but when you start to examine these women as wives and not only casual sex partners, you encounter a big problem: they value their education and careers above that of family. The reason? Education is offered for free or at a greatly subsidized rate by the government. Western governments are therefore programming women into becoming sterile office slaves and consumers instead of good wives and mothers.

I’ve met hundreds of Eastern European women from several countries, and because I’ve focused on living in cities, I’ve been unable to find more than a handful under the age of 25 who has shown eagerness into soon becoming a mom. Instead, the girls I’ve known have made their future employment the most important goal of their lives. Here is a conversation I’ve had several times:

Me: “Why don’t you want to be a mom soon?”

Girl: “Because I have to focus on my career first.”

Me: “Why don’t you just find a good man instead? He will take care of you.”

Girl: “Because men are bad. They cheat and become alcoholics. *Insert horror story of an awful man who a friend of a friend got married to.*”

Me: “So your job is more important than your family?”

Girl: “I need a backup plan in case my husband becomes bad.”

Men are bad, and because of that, she must spend years in university where she gets to experiment with different cocks and where she is firmly taken out of her natural role to learn how to serve a corporate master while her future kid goes to day care and her husband eats cans of tuna because his wife is too tired from work to cook, assuming she even knows how. A man’s marriage with such an empowered woman is doomed before he knows it.

Women want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be able to marry the man they are most attracted to, and if that doesn’t work, still be able to enjoy an independent and comfortable life of Ikea furniture and Starbucks without having to put up with a man’s reasonable demands to cook him dinner and make sure the children are taken care of.

To accomplish that task, she must spend thousands of hours studying a topic like law or international business relations and became an obedient office worker instead of learning how to obey her husband. And because of this desire, which is being fully supported by the government with free or subsidized education, usually in the form of interest-free loans, we are seeing the disappearance of the nuclear family along with high divorce rates and out-of-wedlock births where future degenerates of the state get to watch mommy get sexy matches on Tinder.

In this crooked game, women can’t lose

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Women win through this scheme because they are able to say no to their husbands without repercussions and the government wins because women are less dependent on men for their needs. These women then become dependent on the state and corporations, which can easily lead them to behaviors of their choice, such as not reproducing.

If you take the depopulation agenda to be accurate then it makes sense that you would want to train women to do anything but bond with men in a way that leads to reproduction. That is exactly what most Western governments have done, and it starts by essentially brainwashing women of the need to be free from their husbands by making them obsessed to earn money produced by central banks. Any country where the idea of female employment is seen as “common sense” is in the process of having their culture destroyed, if it hasn’t already been done.

But do women really get a good deal out of this? In order to survive, they must obtain resources from corporate employment, the government, or an individual man. They cannot exist in the world on their own.

The less a woman has to depend on a man’s resources, the less she will have trained herself on how to be a good wife and mother. She may still end up being a good wife and mother, but she been put on a path since her teenage years by the system to spend considerable amounts of time in corporate and victimhood training, not wife training. Therefore if you end up marrying a woman who places high value in her “empowered” job, and she refuses to quit that job when her presence is needed in the home, your misfortune comes not just from your mistake in choosing her, but in the fact that the government, through their education programs and directives, have ensured that very outcome. In effect, you’re being actively cucked by your own government.

Foreign women are not necessarily a fail-safe solution

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Even in Eastern Europe, it is very difficult to find a woman under the age of 25 in a big city who wants to soon be a stay-at-home mom, or at least a mom who places secondary importance in her career. The feminist ideas that have infected America first came to Eastern Europe in the form of Soviet communism, which—surprise—had the primary goal to destroy the family unit.

The fact that an Eastern European girl lives in the city while her parents remain in the village means that she has been seduced by the prospect of free education, city lights, and the ability to sleep around without consequences. It is unlikely that she will be able to provide you with the home life that you deserve above that of an American woman, especially since they both approach career and motherhood in a nearly identical way. Unless you start visiting villages or churches, you’ll end up disappointed.

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If you look at a map of fertility rates around the world, you can clearly see that countries with fertility under the replacement rate have fanatical programs about educating women. Doing so makes a woman’s most fertile period of her life go to waste so that she can spend 5-10 years getting an education in obedience, consumerism, and selfie-taking while developing a bullshit career that will not make her happier than having a family.

If I were king of a land and wanted to destroy a neighboring kingdom, I’d simply implant the idea of female education within their culture so that they’d simply die out within a few generations. In the meanwhile, have fun trying to find a good woman who believes in the most basic of family values. The government already got to her, and put ideas in her head which will make it very hard for you to experience the simple act of having a family. Sadly, besides finding a magical unicorn, I see no way for us to fix this problem for our generation.

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50% of the population essentially tricked into being wage slaves as if men ever wanted to sit in a cubicle, grow ulcers, and die of hyper-tension (it’s great ladies, you betcha!).
That same 50%, now wage earners no longer needing allowance from their husbands to run out and impulse buy into insurmountable debt (not to mention college debt as well).
Solidarity and serenity stolen from the home in favor of bastard children with little chance to develop a sense of familial identity or loyalty, deadbeat fathers who never mature into men or pass on how to be masculine to their sons creating future deadbeats, vengeful bitter divorcees (who won’t let dad even see kids) becoming eternal spiteful bitches blaming men for everything, instead of loving wives and nurturing mothers so that the concept of “homefront” is all but forgotten.
War between the sexes while promoting non-existent genders and “alt-lifestyles” to destroy any remaining scraps of traditional values.
Promise by the government to “fix” problems they intentionally created, continue to perpetuate the dependency for power through our own progeny, and the long-term goal comes to fruition, rinse and repeat.
What a wonderful world.

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One important factor that I never see get brought up in these articles is that having a large enough fraction of the women in a community mostly focused on the home and neighborhood completely transforms it. It’s not just about having a nice homelife. Women network and gossip a lot more easily than men and problems in the area get noticed and addressed sooner. Networks of moms form the community social backbone; everyone winds up knowing more people and socializing more. None of this happens if all the women are stressed out and time crunched from professional level jobs.

You used to be able to kick the kids out the door in the morning and not worry about it, because at any given moment they’d be vaguely under the supervision of some sane mother keeping an eye on the block, even just a stranger. Most neighborhoods are just glorified dormitories now, because there’s not an army of moms and grandparents looking things over and chit-chatting.

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Yes ed – here’s the sequence of western civilization: family, community, society, culture, civilization… family, then, one of the core pillars of civilization – destroy the traditional family along with other pillars [such as religion, fatherhood, education, justice systems…] and you take out a civilization. The “long march through the institutions” is complete – western civilization is now ‘compromised’ to the point of destruction – what’s the western man’s reaction? More specifically what reaction does western man have to ‘his’ women’s betrayal and abandonment for Pimp Daddy Big Gov’t over her own family?

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Great point.

George Kingfish Stevens
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Everybody makes great points here! It is all too true, and so our civilization and our race is dying…murdered by the World Vampire!

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Elitists goals: Take every single “minority” status (Includes anyone of color, and all women), and get them to war among themselves. Success!

GoingSane, as you pointed out, its the perpetuity of it all… that is now 1-2 generations in full cycle. The cunts from the 80s-90s who decided to quit “the team” of quality life relations between the sexes, now have kids in their 20-30s, even 40s who are doing the same.

Cunts you ask? What about the loser men? Let’s be realistic here. Whose incentivized? The same minorities – esp women as a whole – to quit the family team unit, and any other potentially societal valuable person, that fits in the minority group as defined by the US gov’t as well as taught in Business Diversity classes, or “ethics” courses in ALL colleges, NOT just liberal arts colleges.

It’s not about love, it’s not about sex, it’s 100% about dysfunction. Dysfunction is how I categorize things now, people especially (namely the ones who make themselves objectifiable, which includes 70-90% of all women for starters).

Two observations in last 12 hours of my life:
1) Good friend of mine whose married with kids on both sides (previous relationships) combined to make his household. “My 401k is up to about $400k.. not bad for my age, but my wife has literally NOTHING saved up.” << yea, case in point.

2) Walking through WalMart (of a all God forsaken shit holes): 2 middle-aged men passer-by ear hustle: "You know who told me how to change all my problems, my wife!" Other Guy:"Mine won't let me consider those changes unless she discovers them first." < Sovereignty > Wife > Kids > Job > Husband.. in that order, is the order of command over MOST adult married men’s lives.

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Don’t forget also, women obtaining pointless qualifications from higher education makes it harder for their hypergamy to be satisfied, reducing the pool of men who they find attractive to the minority of high earning alphas – who for the main part, will prefer to take advantage of this and sleep around rather than commit.

Meanwhile, the betas are priced out of the market, and become increasingly thirsty, further reinforcing women’s entitlement complexes.

When a woman enters her epiphany years after failing to secure the commitment of an alpha in her 20s through sex, she has to settle for a beta provider, who she invariably becomes bored with and frivorces.

A perfect storm of society-destroying factors all stemming from women’s lib.

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It’s the Great Filter in action.

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Please explain what you mean by teh Great filter. Not heard of that one?

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Nearly every species that has ever lived on Earth has gone extinct. And it’s not that each species evolves into another; they evolve evolve evolve and then stop.

Martha, the last passenger pigeon, died without ever breeding, despite heroic attempts to get her to. In fact, attempts to preserve the population started much earlier but failed. The pigeons needed big flocks not for survival but breeding.

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Glad someone brought this up. You especially see this in the black American community to the extreme. Black women have more degrees than black men and probably have now earned more money than the men. So they say “I don’t need me no man” and they’ll rather never marry or have an out of wedlock kid with a Chris Brown type than settle for a guy they think is “below” them. I think white America is going through the same process but just a few decades delayed. Most people probably don’t know that the lowest fertility rate in America isn’t white women, it’s black women with a degree who have priced themselves out of the sexual marketplace.

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A girl from Brazil was asked if her friend “married that American guy?”
She said ‘No she got a job in Brazil working for an American company and gets paid in US dollars. What does she need to get married for?”

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They usually wind up marrying white men too.

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Women never ” price themselves out of the sexual marketplace”. Choosing not to marry never impacts a woman’s ability to have sexual relationships. Try being a woman for a while. Sex is always available to us. Choosing not to marry doesn’t stop us from living fun and rewarding lives. That we chose not to marry and have kids is a positive choice for some. That we aren’t available to be your caretakers, maids and subservient dependents is only a disadvantage to men. Research has shown time and again that men benefit more from marriage and suffer in a variety of ways when single. Men are more likely to have a higher income when married longterm compared with men of identical education, they enjoy better health and are happier. Women enjoy no such advantages and actually research shows single women are happier and when widowed their health actually improves. Men suffer from lack of wives. Women do better and don’t ever experience being “priced out of the sexual marketplace”. It’s available to us in ways it isn’t to men.

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Most of men here judge women they make sex before marriage and say lot of crap. All women are sluts and blah blah blah.
Not all men but a lot who are on this forum.
Thus according to everything they write here women should not have sex before marriage. Men have to wait. In this way their best girlfriend could be their hand and porno video. They are never happy and satisfied. If woman doesn’t make sex – she is bad. If she does -she is a slut.
Question what men who have such kind of thoughts can give to woman. Sex? Not the fact it will be a good sex.
LOL.

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Sex is easily available to women, especially women with a low bar, but cheap sex isn’t what most women want. Not any decent woman I know of. There’s only a limited number of pretty boy prince charmings making 6 figures. I was specifically talking about black women as an example. Most of them want to get married, but having pursued education and career to the degree they have, they are left without mates that they feel are on their level. And don’t tell me for a minute that these women are happy. If a woman doesn’t yearn to have a family and children, that’s a broken woman not worth marrying in the first place.

I also take it you are probably in your 20s. Let’s see if you feel the same way when you’re 42 and single and all your friends are married off and spending most their time with family.

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Utter balderdash.

“Choosing not to marry doesn’t stop us from living fun and rewarding lives?” Yes, that’s why so many women are so desperately unhappy–do you read, or talk to women older than 25?–and why so many are constantly glomming on to whatever ex-con loser will agree to touch their miserable asses and pay them a little attention once in a while. That’s why they are constantly participating in ever-more-degrading sexual escapades in an attempt to attract, get, or keep men; do you think sixteen-year-old girls are sending naked pictures of themselves to boys they barely know because they want to, or because it’s what they’re told they must do if they want a boyfriend?

Which leads into your next ridiculous fallacy, that women never experience being “priced out of the sexual marketplace.” Do you know any women? Are you actually a woman? I’m in my early forties, and I can tell you right now that no matter how young I look (which is at least ten years younger than my actual age), no matter how slim I stay and how carefully I do my hair and make-up and dress, I do not get the level of male attention now that I did twenty years ago when every head would turn. Part of this is because I am older; twenty-five-year-old men might find me attractive but they do not seriously consider me as a sexual or relationship partner (which suits me fine, since I’m very happily married) because I am too old. Not to mention, who in the world are the men still available to women in their late thirties and beyond? Divorced men with children, if they’re lucky. Or men who never married for a reason, men who don’t necessarily have a lot to offer, either. The good over-forty men still available–and there are some–are looking to marry women who can give them children, and like it or not, our ability to successfully do that diminishes quite a bit after age thirty-five. This isn’t sexism, it’s biological reality. A man looking to start a family would be crazy to start his search with forty-year-old women; we may see female celebrities pregnant at the age of forty-two or -three or -six, but what they don’t tell you is the number of rounds of IVF they went through, or the fertility drugs, or the extensive testing for birth defects (the odds of which ride exponentially after a woman’s thirty-fifth year).

You go ahead and find me a woman of, say, fifty, who has as much sexual power to attract men as a woman of twenty-two. Unless she’s a former supermodel, you’ll have to look long and hard, and even then, while she may be able to get a man in her bed, she’s going to have a hard time finding one who wants to stick around when they get out of bed.

Finally, I take real issue with your dismissive and gross reference to women like myself as a “caretaker, maid, and subservient dependent” of my husband. I am none of those things. What I am is an active half of the kind of true partnership that feminists only dream of, and have to attempt to browbeat and bully their husbands to get–all that “Trying to get him to do ‘his fair share'” nonsense isn’t part of my life. My husband does his fair share. He gets up every morning and goes out into the workplace to earn money to support his family. That is his “half” of the work necessary to have and successfully raise a family. My “half” is to keep the house he pays for clean; to cook all the meals for the family so he doesn’t have to do it or worry about it and so our children are well-fed with good, home-cooked food; iron his shirts so he doesn’t have to worry about it when he gets dressed in the morning and so he looks nice in the office; make and pack his lunches (and write notes to him every day to tell him how much he is loved and how lucky I consider myself, which isn’t my “job” but is something I truly feel every day); keep our home tidy so when he comes home he feels happy, safe, comfortable, and welcome; handle our money sensibly; keep our children clean and dressed and help them with their schoolwork (when applicable; he’s better at some subjects, so he helps with those) and social situations; make sure he doesn’t run out of things he needs or things our home needs (shampoo, razor blades, etc.) so he doesn’t have to worry about it or think about that, either. I handle the bills and car maintenance, including making sure the car is gassed up when he needs it; I run errands that need to be run (taking his suits to the cleaners etc.); I bake things for his company’s charity bake sales and, occasionally, for him to share with his co-workers, because I enjoy baking and I’m good at it. (I am also a writer, and make a good-but-sporadic income from it, but that’s work I was only able to start doing thanks to my husband freeing me from the drudgery of a nine-to-five job.)

The last few years he does the laundry, because he enjoys doing laundry, and he washes the dishes on weekends because he’s a wonderful man (and he enjoys washing dishes).

None of what I do is any more or less complex, tasking, or difficult than the work he does for a paycheck. He makes the money and I enable him to focus exclusively on that. We are two sides of a whole, and that whole is the work of having a home and family. How many marriages do you know that are as equal as mine, where there are no fights over whose turn it is to do the dishes or clean the bathroom, or who is more tired, where both parties feel equally respected and valued for what each brings to the party? My husband and I know that both of our work is equally important, because without one the other would suffer. I couldn’t–or don’t want to–do what he does, and he couldn’t–or doesn’t want to–do what I do. Our daughters have never come home to an empty house. They have never been shunted off to spend ten hours a day in some institutional day-care with strangers who don’t love them the way their parents do. They are happy, confident girls, who every day see their mother treated well and respected by a loving husband and their father treated well and respected by a loving wife. They see how important they are to both of us, that we’ve made sacrifices so they could grow up in their own home instead of spending all their time in group settings with “carers.” They see the children in their schools who don’t have fathers at home, and how they behave and feel; they see the children who don’t have mothers home with them all the time, and how they behave and feel.

All women used to have the opportunity for this kind of happiness, until feminists decided that my half of the partnership was stupid and boring and not worth anyone’s time, and started denigrating it and insulting the women who were happy doing it; just because they themselves were boring and unable to amuse themselves they assumed no other women could find intellectual stimulation when given a library and time to spend in it, or a community and a chance to make a difference in it. All of the “pro-woman” nonsense you’ve spilled above is really only you insulting women and the work we have traditionally done, and implying that there is something wrong with women who want to and enjoy doing it (which poll after poll shows is most of us, especially after we have children); it’s your fault children are fatherless and women are unhappy, and you’re not helping anything by telling outright lies like “women are never priced out of the sexual marketplace.”

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I’m glad you enjoy your choices and they feel fulfilling to you. I think we are of similar age. I am a very plain looking woman in my early forties and find I have every bit as much opportunity to find men and spend time with them as I ever had. The idea that I’ve been ” priced out of the sexual marketplace” is rediculous. Im sorry you are not turning every head like you used to. Since you claim to be in a monogamous marriage I’m wondering why you care. I’m not looking to turn every head. I’m not looking for attention from every man or to compete with other women in this regard. What I’m saying is that I have as much opportunity with men as I like. There is no lack of men in the world and I find myself not lacking for male attention. So the claims of these young men ,who are childish In their understanding in the actual experiences of women today, that women simply stop receiving male attention is rediculous. I don’t think your relationship or role is stupid or useless. I do think that the assertion that women are only suited to this role and are somehow destined for unhappiness if they don’t choose this role is stupid. I’m neither interesting in ,nor impressed by ,the assertions of misogynistis men about my role in society. I am laughing about their claims that women lose the attentions of men. I’m laughing because I know what my experiences and those of other single or non manogamous women are…..and that that men continue to express interest in them. Sorry but its not my fault that men abandone their children. Seriously? My remaining single means men cannot remain responsible for the children they create? You need to not have your existence as a woman threatened because other women chose other options and feel ok with that.

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I didn’t say you don’t have opportunity to meet and attract men, I said you don’t have the same sexual power to get and keep a man that you had as a young woman, and you don’t. That’s fact, whether you like it or not, whether you’re happy with the men you attract or not, and whether you actually ever had much power to do so or not–the fact that you’ve noticed no drop-off doesn’t mean anything, since you may not have had an endless stream of suitors to begin with. (I notice you didn’t say whether these men are divorced with children, or what, since that was one of the points that I made–that the quality of available men/men without baggage is lower.)

I don’t care that I don’t turn every head anymore, and stated as much. It was merely an example. I still get noticed and I still get hit on, just not the way I did at twenty-three, which is completely normal and understandable.

And please, learn to understand what you say and stand by it. “I don’t think your relationship or role is stupid and useless?” Except you referred to me as a “caretaker, maid, and subservient dependent.” Are you not capable of understanding how dismissive and rude that was? Who feels threatened by whom here? I have not put down your role in the world; you have put down mine, and implied that I’m some wilting moron whose health and happiness are both poor. Why do you feel the need to insult other women like that? I think it’s great that you’re having fun meeting and having casual relationships with however many men. Good for you! I hope it continues. I’m glad you’re not lonely, and I hope you continue to be as fulfilled by your life as you are now. But you must realize that you’re not the norm for single women our age.

You are not responsible for the actions of men, no. But the party line you spew to young women, and young men, that marriage isn’t important, that single mothers are just dandy and there’s no need to make a commitment to the person with whom you’re having a child, is, in part. The fact that young women today are taught to expect nothing from the men they’re encouraged to share their bodies with is, in part. The fact that young women today are told that waking up alone, being treated like a toy, is the path to happiness is, in part. The fact that mothers, who in poll after poll overwhelmingly say they wish they could be home with their children more, in, in part. All of those are things you seem to be agreeing with, which means that you are part of the problem.

Go ahead and be happy and have fun. I don’t care what you do. But stop insulting me and other women who choose a different path, and who want and expect more from life than being separated from our children and stuck in a thankless job–and remember that some women have always chosen to stay single and have careers; it’s nothing special or revolutionary that feminism made possible. It’s a hamster wheel that feminism has forced on all women whether they wanted it or not.

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When I said care taker ,maid and subservient submissive I was directly quoting the comment by the idiot gentleman here who said that was all women were good at being. Not that that is what I perceived stay at home mothers to be. You clearly didn’t read the entire piece here. I stated it that way because that is what he said all women were suitable to be. You seem to be very opinionated about the experiences of single women despite being in a monagamous marriage. I actually disagree with your assertion that older women have a harder time with men. I am actually experiencing exactly the opposite. I feel as though I have a much better knowledge of myself, have a better time expressing my expectations and do a better job setting boundaries than I did when I was younger. I feel able to be more grounded and not worried about men’s expectations influencing my choices. I feel better able to engage with men who meet my needs better because I can more effectively communicate. I’m no longer sitting in a place where I let men define me or set the agenda. I feel as though dating as an older woman is a much better experience. I wasn’t insulting your choices. I was rejecting the idiots definition of the role of women. He said that was all women were good at and in exactly those words. He is the one who devalues your role. Re read this piece and the thread in the comments above. I didn’t refer to you at all. I don’t know you. Interesting with all the comments here by men saying your only role is a maid, caretaker and subservient submissive….you only object to the woman’s comments. 🤔 You seem to be fine with men categorizing you as such……I find that very interesting.

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Now thats the kind of woman that should be the role model for our future daughters….this woman obviously understands something that the feminists have tried to destroy. I’m getting married to a Ukrainian woman because she is exactly this way and she enjoys being a woman and being feminine for me and helping me……thank you Anion for giving a real account of what a strong woman really looks like!!!

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Thank you, kind sir! I appreciate that very much. Best wishes to you for a long and happy marriage!

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Just reading your description of your partnership and family life made me tear up a bit. Inspiring, and saddening as to where our world has come to. I’m in my mid-20s and hope to have something like that some day. Until then, I will be out here in the trenches of the city chasing skirts and shallow pleasures as I build my game up.

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Oh, thank you, friend! (And you having that response tells me that you’ll likely have no trouble finding a good woman to share your life with; only a truly good man would not only have it, but would be strong and kind enough to mention it–you’ve brightened my day!)

Lol, hey, if you can’t “chase skirts and shallow pleasures” (what an eloquent way to put it!) in your mid-twenties, when can you? 🙂 And when you’re ready and you find the right woman, I’m sure you’ll be a wonderful, strong, masculine husband who supports, cares for, and pleases his wife just like my husband does me–and who is then in return supported, cared for, and pleased by a wife who is thankful for him every day, as I do and am for my husband.

There are plenty of women out there who want a life like mine. It might take a little while to find one–though again, I doubt you’ll have much trouble–but they are out there, and I think their numbers are growing. (I’ve often thought I could make a mint starting a dating service for men who want traditional wives and women who want to be one.)

Have a great day! {{{hug}}} to you, sir!

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Come to think of it, I haven’t heard from a woman what that sort of life looks like. Most of my life the world, the media, and society seem to highlight the negatives.

Thank you for sharing what your life looks like. It has been added to my vision of the future. And thanks for your support. This is a great conversation.

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You are cool!!! Doesn’t matter how old we are. Woman always can be attractive. Real man will always appreciate his woman. Losers will complain, look for sex advantures after what will write articles about it because they don’t have what to offer. Happinness to you!!

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Exactly.

And they don’t realise til it’s way too late that a 35 year old high value man has no use beyond easy degrading sex for a 35 year old biologically over the hill career woman

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truth. so maybe they should go with guys that aren’t high value.

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Why would sex be degrading? Is sex with you really that bad? All the men on this site seem to think sex is a really disgusting act which results in some sort of psychic injury? Why are you Taliban like men who follow Roosh so sex negative?

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HHMM MAYBE ITS TIME WOMEN DEVALUE MEN….

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sex is degrading women in the head of psychopaths

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Excellent point. I’ve told many girls the higher they move up the corporate ladder the fewer attractive marriageable men they will find. But they refuse to listen, because they have been socialized by feminists to believe just the opposite. Or to believe that grad school, a corner office, a 6-figure salary, and a few pets is a great substitute for an attractive marriegeable man.

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“Or to believe that grad school, a corner office, a 6-figure salary, and a few pets is a great substitute for an attractive marriegeable man.”
LMAO, pig please. I’m having a lot of fun reading the stupidity you peasants vomit around here. Hilarious! 😀

Isn’t that good enough? Even more when it comes to American women; you know how gross straight American men are, in general. Hairy, unattractive, stinky slobs. Ignorant, anti-intellectual, not even a single trace of charm and human warmth. Most won’t even wash their genitals properly or follow a skin care regime. Horrible in bed, most can’t even make women orgasm; in fact, most don’t even care and believe their own sexuality/pleasure is all that matters. Who would want this garbage? “Attractive marriageable man” in America is something way too rare. With a 6-figure salary and her own life as a single woman with female friends/relatives she will already be getting much more than she could ever get by being married in most of the cases.

• A 6-figure salary is the security they need, for themselves and their kids. They can buy food, home, health with that.
• Most men aren’t that good at emotional support. – Women bond with each other the best. Even when they actually have a husband they prefer talking to a friend or female relative. So they will never be alone and, in fact, will be having much more fun and happiness in their lives by spending more time with their female/gay relatives/friends than with one male.
• Women have sperm banks and adoption options. They can and will have children whenever they want them. “Pets” aren’t their only option, you dumb eunuch, haha.
• Women can’t feel sexually attracted for the same male for long (that is just nature telling them they shouldn’t be getting pregnant by the same male over and over again, they should seek that young adult, strong, healthy and beautiful male for the only good and worthy sperm), so her husband won’t even be good enough for sex anymore after a short time. – Women are better off with sex buddies/casual sex with the top tier attractive males, or they can buy sex if they are into gigolos or can’t find an attractive enough male to fuck anymore (most women can still find males to fuck just fine, though, at basically any age; American women will have to put up with American men’s sexual entitlement and lack of reciprocate/orgasm-indulging abilities, though, so I think they’re better off just buying sex with attentive, attractive gigolos.) We know more and more women are doing just that. Or heck, they can just go and buy a dildo/vibrator; they will be getting more pleasure/orgasms than the regular straight American male can give. Do your research about sexuality and the lack of female pleasure in America, boy.
• Many, many men leave their wives when they get ill. Most just aren’t good enough at nurturing. – Women are better off working so they will have the money to pay for someone to help them out if they ever need it. Or maybe she could rely on a good female relative/friend, once again;:women are the ones who take care of their loved one the most.

So what’s the deal? A romantic relationship with a man is worthless for women in the modern world (except for few civilized enough males, most just aren’t able and don’t want to connect, support, take care and satisfy their wives; most also can’t keep sexual attraction going on). Monogamic relationships aren’t even human nature – sub-males pushed for it so most of them could have an on-going sexual partner, whether the female wanted it not; they had to turn women into properties with no choices, agency, voice and freedom to support themselves to be able to accomplish it.

Women can’t rely on men in any way and they shouldn’t, for their own happiness. Not having a husband is better for a woman’s health and happiness, in general. That is why so many women feel happier after their long-time husbands die. Women definitely have better lives by being single than by getting married (even more when it comes to an American husband, yuck).
Women only still marry because it’s a lie and brainwash that society feeds to them since they are little girls; and you straight males can scream all you want and put on that “marriage sucks!” front on, but you are the ones who want women to feel obsessed with marriage the most. You guys have been joking about marriage being a prison since forever – even when women were being literally sold by their fathers to forcibly marry whatever male who bought them.
But the thing is, you want women to need you. You want women to obsess over being with you, to try everything they can to marry you; that way you feel wanted, needed, important. It was straight men who created faith tales. It was straight men who created marriage, and for their own good.
It’s all about female sexuality for you guys, you want them so much you feel powerless – so you try to make them powerless, you try to control their sexuality with lies, shame and even violence; you vilify their sexual freedom in every way possible. You want women to be submissive wimps so you can feel strong and worthy. Because YOU guys are wimps, weak and irrational animals who still act on instinct and emotions; that is why straight males spent the whole of the human history trying to dominate others (mostly women, because of your sexual attraction to them).

Fortunately most women wake up after marrying for the first time, nowadays; look at how much women seek divorce. Oh, and once again, also look at how much you little pseudo-men hate it that women want nothing to do with you anymore, haha! Nah, we all that know deep inside it’s not about “alimony” (you have prenup for that; alimony doesn’t occur that often as you guys love to cry anyway) or “child-support” that you care about. It’s that women don’t want you anymore. It’s that women are leaving you. No, we didn’t forget you straight males didn’t want women to be able to ask for divorce… that is all about control and trying to keep a woman for yourself… because YOU guys are the most pathetically emotionally dependent, insecure, weak shits ever.
They aren’t putting up with this bullshit anymore.

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Great post.
I agree to most of what you said. Women will undoubtedly be more comfortable with 6 figures and the corner office etc.
But the problem is many women already have money and a great career but still end up CRAZY.

I believe women need men, they need to be dominated to feel completely satisfied. Just like men need to dominate. We need each other.

If a woman tells me I don’t need a man just my career etc I don’t want to be around her. I’ve seen those women and they have emotional problems.
Same with men who say I don’t need women, the full mgtow. Don’t be bitter because theres plenty of men who aren’t the slobs you described.
Better yourself and you’ll find the right man. Same goes for us.
Men and women need each other for emotional reasons. Cats and dogs and kids only go so far. .

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I agree. Men and women equally need each other. My best friend and I openly admit that life without a good man to cuddle up to at night ain’t life at all. I am so fortunate to be married and I am one of the few who strives to please her husband and children. Lots of home cooked meals from scratch and lots of time at the gym to keep the same figure I had before we got married and had kids. The point is, I love to please him because I love him and I need him. But, it took living in Europe for me to lose the feminism. But that was in the late 90’s. It sounds like European women have changed.

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“Great post”…..are you joking? How could you even get past the first paragraph with out “vomiting”…to use one of her own repulsive phrases. The hate just oozes out of this female thing like pus from an infected wound. This is clearly a pathetic human being who hates men and everything about them…a troll in the classic sense of the word who is of such an ugly personality that it would be impossible to have a normal conversation with her.

Sure, we all know that men and women are growing further and further apart in the west, but if the feminists we are dealing with are anything remotely like her, its no wonder, because she is absolutely and thoroughly repulsive, in every sense of the word.

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Take a look at all the fem-natzi’s in the colleges and female social justice hacks and rape warriers with their anti-rape permission slips. You think any halfway normal dude would want these female trolls!!!??? Most of these pseudo men hipsters follow these women around waiting for a scrap!! Women like you deal with these beta males who have been castrated by the media and the so called women in the colleges!!!

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Amen❤️ Everything you just said.

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There may be some truth in what you’ve said, there’s also a lot of bitterness mixed in tempering it toward what I might call a somewhat hopeless and even vengeful conclusion.

Men could say a lot of the same things you know. Technically we need only rely on our own two hands (for work and for pleasure). Even reproduction without a partner is soon within the grasp of men (see ‘artificial womb’), cloning is already real, genetic manipulation too. There’s also the fact that with the implementation of universal basic income, which is already starting to happen in some countries, men will have no reason to become sperm ‘donors’ (which, actually, most do for the money, but to be fair some do it out of the goodness of their hearts).

A note on the negative stuff: Men in the past have seen plenty of negative sides to real human relationships with women too. The successful ones, the ones who passed on their genes, got over it. What does that say about them?

You’re describing a world in which an individual of a particular sex has no need or want for the opposite, and chooses material things over building lasting, quality human relationships with a sexual and reproductive component. That would take away the one thing that makes us human. That challenge. That authentic experience whereby we are taught that our right ideas are not necessarily the only right ideas, and that we have to learn to live with others. You take that away and down the track you end up with individuals who are so far up their own asses that they can’t see the light. There’s no balance in that equation.

What you would eschew in such a suggestion is not a disadvantage at all, it’s an opportunity to learn and master the human experience. To sacrifice and gain more understanding. To sacrifice that opportunity is to become weaker. You would not reach your full potential as a person that way, man or woman.

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Bachelors and bachelorettes for life? Yes, please

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You’re a dumb whore who doesn’t know her history. Women were routinely captured, raped, and enslaved by evil men, so they got protection for themselves and their children by offering marriage to good men.

In today’s soft world where women take it for granted they won’t be captured and enslaved by men, who are superior to women in almost every way by birthright, they divorce men and live the single slut-life without repercussions.

But you’re living on borrowed time. This world was created by your mothers who understood why it was important to keep men attached to their women and make things safe for them. As Western nations depopulate and go broke, there won’t be police to protect dumb sluts like yourself, and women will once again be at the mercy of men, just as Nature intended it.

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“it’s ONLY lonely at the top if you’re alone and that is a choice you make.”

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Or maybe we don’t care. Maybe looking for your hand in marriage isn’t as big a treat for women as you think it is. Men benifit way more from marriage than women do. So maybe it’s just that men aren’t that good of a deal when you have them full time and we are content with having more causual relationships with you. You guys aren’t that big of a prize much of the time.

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Bachelors and bachelorettes for life? Fine by me.

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well if that was true that would just have to change. If a mans love depends on your ignorance and lack of power, it is of no worth.

George Janeiro
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Straw(wo)man argument. By all means get all the Ivy League degrees and 6-figure corner offices you want. Just don’t expect any of that to move you even one iota closer to the “love” of the men you deem desirable.

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For some women, strapping on a degree looks just as good as strapping on a strap-on, and for the same reason …

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always funny to see a psychopath advocating for women to not be educated so they will be easier to get for loosers.

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so what if a woman decides to have a job over being a housewife? whats wrong with that? god, women should have equal rights as men AND what if a woman doesnt want to depend on her husband for money that’s good, why the fuck should she? what if hell goes down an divorce is needed but she cant do anything cuz she doesn’t have a job? she shouldn’t be forced to stay with him cuz shes dependent on him an all the while shes being beaten or talked down to because shes not “equal”

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These women would rather focus on their careers until they are too old to have children when they actually want to (like 48). So then they turn to cat collection, which devolves over the ensuing decades into a total disaster.

Want a free cat with that house visit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZn0-hZCfU

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Haaha classic simp

sasha
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bah, its now possible to frooze eggs anyway if you really want.
Plus the thing is that it should not be exclusive. A man can weel stay home himself with the kids, so the woman can take her much overdue place.
That or you know, share half of the kids rearing, like a non cheapo

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i made an account with disqus because i’m curious about something: do you guys who post here believe that this person calling himself roosh v is an actual ladies’ man? has anybody ever talked to any of the hundreds of women who he claims to have slept with? because men who are actually successful with women don’t tend to spend their time whining about women on the internet.

now roosh v may indeed be an exception to this. he does seem like an exceptional individual. but if you follow his example, you’re likely to end up cranky and alone on a barstool, complaining to nobody in particular about things that are out of your control. which is no way to go through life.

so i really am curious — do you all really believe that roosh v is an international playboy, albeit one who, for some reason, feels the need to run down women in general on the internet? do you think he exaggerates stories? or is it generally accepted that “roosh v” is a character, and a vehicle for certain fantasies? or ed anger-type social satire?

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He’s got a 5-6 photos with girls and that’s all.

Considering his reputation as an rape advocate, it is a miracle that not even one girl has come forward with a false rape accusation. Roosh is natural beta with high verbal intelligence who tries to talk himself into being an alpha. That’s all.

Having said that his sites are quite useful to a lot of men and much better than the official narrative. So he’s a good man in general.

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To what extent are you suggesting that Alpha and Beta roles are permanently wired in the human brain, like biological sex differences?

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As a Paleo-MGTOW my self, I’m not in to Roosh’s ladies’ man stuff. What I appreciate is the depth of the insight into the situation the world is in. Roosh V is a student of human existence, not just a Pick Up Artist. The world is going to hell in a hypersonic hand basket and Roosh V helps all us guys see things for what they are. This would be true even if the truth was Roosh V was a virgin, or something.

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The readership here is majority male. We are not particularly interested in anyone’s personal life, drama, relationships, etc. To quote a wise woman “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.”

Furthermore, the advice given generally tests out to be extremely accurate for me, and it works, so I follow it. It’s really as simple as that.

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but he’s not some impersonal essayist. he’s made autobiography a central part of his writing — not just his accounts of his international sex tourism, but many of his other posts as well. he is his subject. i believe this is also true when he writes his pieces about women, all of which read to me like embittered responses to some deep personal injury.

either that, or plain old satire.

now he could just be a guy who enjoys stirring the pot. but since the life advice that he dispenses is predicated on his past success with — or at least knowledge of — women, i’d think his readers would want to make sure he is who he says he is.

he’s a smart person and a fun writer to read. but whenever he writes about sex, he sounds like a horny, slangy, inexperienced (and frustrated) seventh grader. when he writes his sweeping generalities about women, he sounds like a guy who has never had a serious relationship with a woman in his life — and who is determined to make sure his readers never have one, either.

you probably have a very different take on his writing and his motivations. anyway, i thank you, and others, for answering. i was really curious.

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Citation needed.

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Yes, to answer your question, Roosh is the real deal. He doesn’t toot his own horn as others do, which should be one of the first indicators of authenticity.

I’ve met him, also.

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but i wasn’t wondering if any of you had met roosh v himself, or whether he seemed like a smooth operator when you did. i figured many of you *had* met him. i wondered if anybody had met or heard from any of the hundreds of women he claims he’s slept with. but i’m getting the sense that the perspective of those women — if they exist — is totally immaterial to the community here, which is interesting. at least to me.

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Yes I know you didn’t ask, but it’s relevant.

Meeting a man in person vs. what they may or may not portray themselves as in media is very different.

In this case, his personality backed up what he writes and speaks about, as well as his demeanor and general good will, too.

If you have doubts about him then you definitely haven’t watched many videos or read much of his material. It takes some real experience to write that kind of insight.

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His actual experience is not epistemologically important. He advances a a strong conjecture, which makes it all the easier to test. To the extent that the testing result is not inconsistent with his conjecture, it stands as knowledge. To talk about his personal in this context is just ad hominum fallacy.

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wont work to make you find love or respect fella, and especially not to find a clever woman. Just sayin

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I could not actually give a flying toss …

If it is fiction, it’s an amazingly long run of fiction, and as such should be considered a commendable effort.

I see no way in which Roosh would lose if this were the case.

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I have seen Roosh approach women in person.

He knows his shit.

And no, it’s not fantasies or persona. He really traveled the world, banged chicks, so the shit that is happening and writes about it.

Also, being successful with women does not stop you from being concerned about the fate of civilization.

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Exactly. If anything, his writing has come about because of his many experiences.

I remember seeing him approach a woman in NYC but unfortunately some guy was uncomfortably tagging along like a lost puppy and blew the whole thing.

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If he were concerned with the fate of civilization then he wouldn’t be advocating for rape. Men who rape are barbarians and not very civilized . . .

Jones
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Oh, shut up.

sasha
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its funny that the bunch of machos on here consider it so hard to sleep with a girl that they revere a man for being able to have sex with some. That says a lot about you.

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There are a lot of different angles to this. One is that most “playboys” burn out; when they achieve a certain level of success, they stop playing the game as it’s not much fun to play a game you have mastered. That said, I have little idea how good Roosh is or isn’t.

The one clue I would have is that his general demeanor is one of calm and smoothness, and most women prefer that to fidgety whining.

That said, I’m mostly in it for the social and political commentary, as I note that Roosh was among the first to identify some of the most dramatic forces affecting the evolution, or devolution, of Western society.

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” as I note that Roosh was among the first to identify some of the most dramatic forces affecting the evolution, or devolution, of Western society.”

This is what I also noticed about Roosh many years ago which put him way above any “get laid guru” .

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oh no, simple minds that blame all evils on women not being dominate enough for the males pleasure is probably the least original and ‘first’ political commentary you can make.

Many clever men have fallen in this immoral trap, showing only their depravation and shameful taste for exploitation. This shows some level of verbal cleverness does not shield one from psychopathy

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your mind is gone.
go home and watch youtube videos.

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I’ve wondered this myself. But people can can often be very different in real life from their online persona. Who knows, maybe Roosh is happy go lucky when he’s at the bar picking up women, but yeah, online he comes across as a sullen misanthrope and a doomsayer. I read his articles mainly because he always has something interesting to say even if I don’t always agree. But he does not come across as a happy guy in his online presence. I’m assuming he tones the negativity down in real life when he’s around women.

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He’s a pretty straight up guy. He didn’t make it onto Ukrainian TV for nothing.

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“because men who are actually successful with women don’t tend to spend their time whining about women on the internet.”

Says who? You’re making a statement with no factual basis. That said, women who run dating blogs and complain about men the most tend to go on a lot of dates. When you see more, there is more to complain about. So, a PUA complaining about women makes total sense — much like a computer programmer who runs a blog critiquing software or a music nut who becomes a snarky critic or a movie fanatic who invents the Golden Raspberry Awards.

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Ad hominem. Who gives a shit? Next. Stop trying to change the discussion.

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Men will get further in life if they do not take advice from a woman.

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If Roosh V never spent a day approaching in his life, there is no way his advice about daytime approaching (which scares the bejesus out of most men) could be so spot on. Having approached hundreds of women so far I can attest to the accuracy of his observations and the efficacy of his methods. His description of behavior which turns on (and repels) women conforms very well to my real life experiences. Perhaps you should try doing some approaches yourself, if you’re not too busy being a male feminist/feminist/homosexual keyboard jockey.

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A mild defense of these women…

In EE women aren’t propagandized into believing that men are unreliable, it’s a lot more likely to be a fact. If you think the economy is bad in the US or the UK, EE is generally screwed up beyond belief.

As a general rule, unless they are extraordinarily religious or thoughtful, men in these countries respond to the rough hand they’ve been dealt with, “Screw it; why not get drunk?” We joke about alcoholism and drug use but nobody on earth gets hammered like a Russian who doesn’t care if he dies.

You can’t blame a woman who wants to make sure she’s okay if a relationship goes south under these circumstances. The symptoms are similar but the disease is really different.

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I agree. It’s not the fault of the women and I would say it’s even the fault of the education-system. It is actually INCIDENTALLY the fault of the news and entertainment–the owners who are the illuminati–which purposefully/incidentally uses yellow journalism, fear, pity, and various tactics to portray straight love as an impossible affair… e.g. 2 1/2 men.

This most likely is incidental because these dramatic shows are more interesting.

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After WW2, the Soviet government actively promoted alcohol production to prop up their failing planned economy. So government at least partially to blame for EE men being generally unreliable drunks.

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Yeah, that’s yet another short-sighted solution that the old guard politicians toss as the people to placate the masses for a time, giving them a bit more time to loot the public coffers. Trouble is that all these band-aid solutions create bigger problems five fold worse than the one they tried to fix in the first place.

I blame the guberment for everything nowadays. It makes me feel better, albeit only for a short time, until, being a man, I snap back to reality that I have to solve my own problems and pay my own bills.

Oh what fun it is to be a privileged white male in this wonderful world we live in.

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And I blame the government entirely for the economy. It is one of the chief duties of government to have an honest and efficient judicial system (no more corrupt business shenanigans) combined with leaving people alone to make their own economic decisions (see Hong Kong back in the colonial period). One of the reasons you don’t see as much economic activity in EE (although it has gotten a LOT better) still stems from the days where a fellow would build a business and some goons (possibly police) would basically just take it.

Why build anything after that?

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Performance across the EE has been uneven. The Poles are doing well, have stable governments, and a viable legal system. Other EE countries, not so much.

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Poland was the ‘model’ artifically propped up with enormous EU subsidy. It’s location to Germany (massive recipient of off-shoring), massive emigration (giving remittances back to Poland), conservative ignorance (no unions or social services), made it better than its neighbors.
Even so, the average standard of living isn’t much higher than Belarus, which kept is command economy and is surrounded by hostile elites.

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Yes, “drink is the great joy of the Russ”, and has been so for centuries. The pride of the Russ has ever been, as Tolstoi put it, “they believe nothing, they know nothing, since they do not believe anything can be known”. With that attitude, alcohol is the sensible alternative.

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“As a general rule, unless they are extraordinarily religious or thoughtful, men in these countries respond to the rough hand they’ve been dealt with”

Exactly. Under those circumstances it comes as no surprise that the average Ruski searches for a bottle of booze to crawl into.

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I understand what you are saying, and it becomes a self-reinforcing positive feedback loop where if men are unreliable – women pursue careers as a result, they in turn become unsuitable as wives and mothers to any man pursuing such things, thence if my wife is a whore and economy sucks why not get drunk and so on and so on…

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The article is about the government, not women. I believe he is saying the government creates an environment such that women take the path of least resistance towards marrying the state.

The power of propaganda diminishes once it’s intent is revealed. Would women still do what they do now once they learn about the goals of elite propaganda?

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The government becomes the “husband of last resort”, being seen as a better Beta Provider than the actual Beta males who would otherwise suffice …

Eliminate the behaviour by eliminating the support.

In some countries, it should be a moral obligation to avoid taxation in order to prevent the state’s coffers from being filled to the brim for such support …

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The government has most of the guns.

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He never said it was the fault of the women. He made it explicitly clear that the government was enabling and training these women to not value a long term, traditional relationship.

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Roosh, let’s face it. Europe is dead. This is probably not going to be a popular post, but I think we need to point out the elephant in the room.
European women (and men, for that matter) have embraced feminism more so than just about any other race, with the exception of perhaps African American women. As you have pointed out in previous articles, western Europe is dead, and it looks like Eastern Europe is on the road to decline as well. Eastern Europe, contrary to popular belief, is not the great white hope. As you have pointed out, they are not promoting natalism for the most part, and in Russia, the only country that is promoting it, the only ones reproducing are Russian Muslims. I don’t realistically see Europe getting out of this.
Maybe it’s time to give up on European women, Roosh. It looks like they’re already lost, and the men don’t seem to notice or care. I know you’re set on mating with a woman with a similar skin tone to yours, so look into Iranian and Armenian women. Hell, look into certain parts of South America. But I think it’s time to close the book on Europe.

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But he is not denying that in his article

Morrison
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“But I think it’s time to close the book on Europe”

Suposedly France might decide they have had enough and fight back (Iwas told this but I’m very skeptical) and there may be mitigating circumstances in other parts of europe. But indeed natalism IS important because even if all muzzies stopped raping and commiting crimes, the demographics are already changing.

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Certain parts of Europe might survive a bit longer. I can’t see the Irish going down without a fight, and I’ve heard promising things from Italy. But most of western Europe will be unrecognizable within fifty years. And Eastern Europe better get its shit together and start promoting natalism, but the likelihood of that doesn’t seem promising. It looks like they’re starting to buy into feminism.

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Rape, a crime?! You are one of the Roosh’s little boys, come on now. He already said rape “is okay”.

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2+2=5

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you obviously cant spot satire

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Women drank the Kool-Aid of empowerment. Tasty, isn’t it ladies. You probably like grape flavor. Yummy!

Here’s a huge difference between men an women working; men will work selflessly for the support and betterment of his wife and family. A man will make sacrifices for his wife and kids from noble motives. On the other hand, women work selfishly for themselves first, with the support of her husband and family only secondary motivations to her own shopping sprees.

Unless a woman is a professional model or school teacher, I’m really not interested in hearing about her empowering career and don’t consider her for anything more than a cheap bang. I’ve yet to have even one so-called empowered career woman offer to buy me as much as a drink while expecting to pick my pocket and provide them an entertainment expense account.

A woman thinks she’ll be able to use her empowered lifestyle as a big stick with which to beat a “bad” man if he displeases her, which is guaranteed to happen. Rather, she should realize that while woman fought for empowerment, she forgot her real value is her beauty followed by her ability to care for a husband and children and maintain a household as a support to her husband. Men discovered they could use woman’s empowered and entitled attitudes to get free pussy that in the past used to be reserved for the “right one.”

Power to women! Have another sip of Kool-Aid.

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I have had that free drink, but I chose a risky path: I fucked one of the company directors, and at the time she had more money than I did.

I wouldn’t do it again though.

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That was playing with fire. Hope you didn’t get burned. Yeah, good thinking. You can rinse, but don’t repeat. lol

If you want to fuck your female superior, take her job and her empowerment away from her. Then, and only then, should you pity fuck her, assuming you’re not now her superior.

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The environment of women empowerment is an artificial and unnatural environment maintained by continuous funding and by the laws.
Continuous funding as in funding movies, songs, television, radio, newspapers, magazines, universities, institutes, NGOs etc.
Laws as in constitutions, human rights, woman rights, worker rights, marriage laws, democracy, elections etc.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA! That dude knows shit about biology and human nature. That’s embarrassing. I bet he’s American, he’s way too ignorant.

The value of females, any female of any specie, is that she is able to reproduce and take care of the offspring. Most species aren’t monogamous; humans aren’t monogamous as well. Monogamy was created by human males when human societies developed so basically most males would be able to have an ongoing sexual partner, whether the female wanted it or not; males had to make women their properties for it to happen, it was never free will, it’s not natural for women human females to bond forever with one male. Heck, even females of species that bond for life will “cheat” on their mates as they get older – females always want young, healthy sperm from strong young adult males, and only that.

All females are valuable for that, procreation and caring for their offspring. In fact, they are the most valuable members of any species – as long as she is still able to get pregnant, she is even more valuable than children; after she can still get pregnant after her offspring dies, while for her offspring to survive without her it would be harder.
Males have two valuable traits: protecting their group and donating sperm. Only a smaller group of males are worthy of reproducing (read: attractive enough, strong and healthy young adults – females can’t and won’t try their luck with older sperm, even when they are older females themselves), though. Those males are the most valuable and the only ones females will ever try to copulate with. That also proves only that beauty is only valuable in males – females choose the best males mostly by visual signs. They have to choose wisely as they aren’t fertile everyday and should never waste a fertile egg or risk genetically inferior offspring, while males don’t have to worry as they are fertile everyday and aren’t the ones who get pregnant. Females choose, males accept.
The less valuable males (older, not as healthy, strong and beautiful as the top tier males) are there mostly to keep the group strong/big enough to appear “powerful” for outside danger… and they are also the first ones to die for the females, the children and the genetically valuable males.

Try to lie to yourself as much as you want, it won’t change the facts. Male’s beauty is the most important. “Regular” males are the ones who are meant to support females, children and the more valuable males, to the point of dying for them, dying just so a younger, stronger and healthier male could pass on his superior genes.

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What rile of rubbish…you actually believe your own feminist hate propaganda. In fact females need and desire male financial support for the raising of their children more than anything else, and secondarily they seek the societal status that being with a powerful man brings them. Its always been this way and it still is. The richer and more powerful the man, the more likely he is to have many many options, regardless of his age and “beauty.” The wealthy man chooses, and the selected female accepts, for the betterment of herself and her offspring. On the other hand female power and wealth holds very little attraction for men. And no, not all females are valuable for their mating abilities…many, like yourself, based on your comments here, are too disgusting to consider ever having a relationship and children with. You actually have the whole situation ass backwards fool…but then that’s no surprise since you are such an obvious ass.

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Ware be d wite wimmiinz?

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I love robbing wives

Jones
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I like free sluts and I cannot lie
You cuckolded muthafuckkas can’t deny
When I get up in yo face and steal yo bitch
You get scorned

🙂

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Yeah I used to feel bad for them, but I should be feeling bad for their poor choice of wives more than for my vice. I suspect a return to traditional values, leading to the active policing of women’s sexuality, would help matters.

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Because you straight males haven’t always actively cheated on your wives since forever.
Because you guys aren’t doing it right now and still more than women.

Illogical, hypocritical eunuchs, AHAHAHAHA!

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Full force r-selected degeneracy.

Welcome to the Jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg

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I have been accused of such things in the past. I assume you have similar hobbies.

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How did you know ? :0

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Yet another fuckin’ pick-me-up article, Roosh. But I’m afraid you are correct in your assertion. Everything has been reduced to hookup culture now. That concept is an easy thing to accept when a man is young, but when he gets old and dumping his load is no longer needed, somehow the idea of having children means something.

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Pimp Daddy Big Gov’t whoring out the female population of a nation… been happening since females started negotiated pussy ~ nothing new with females selling themselves or being sold to the highest bidder.

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“The government already got to her, and put ideas in her head which will
make it very hard for you to experience the simple act of having a
family. Sadly, besides finding a magical unicorn, I see no way for us to
fix this problem for our generation.”

Fixing the problem can be done only by destroying the two main pillars that are perpetuating this problem:
1) the constitutions and laws,
2) fake money, that is debt certificates.

Otherwise, writing articles talking about the existence of this problem will help in nothing. After all, this generation will suffer from this problem and if the problem persists there will be no next generation.

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In this context, it is evident that you are at a crossroad, Daryush.

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i’m the only one who does fell in love only with smart girl? (not degree, but somehow reads books) and play guitare and know foreign language? not just dumb who don’t understand what i talk about or my view, just watch soap and drama movies?

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Yes. We motly rile against women who get educated in marxism in colleges.

Women who read literature, know foreign languages, love to cook, i.e actually smart women, not liberal degree whores are a treasure.

I had a girlfriend like that and she was the sweetest thing I knew.

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Thanks! i was thinking same thing, i’m in love with girl who play guitare, and sometimes i’m douchbag with her without a reason and she never argue or something she just try to find solution , and yeah she never talks about career etc
and she’s sweetest too lol

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So i am a treasure…

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Ha ha ha ha! This is hilarious! Please tell me this is brilliant satire. This cannot be a real article.

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That is in fact how the regular straight American male thinks.
Aren’t them garbage and the worst 1st world (pseudo) men? AHAHAHAHAHA!

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“… I’ve focused on living in cities …”

WELL THERE’S YOUR PROBLEM! 🙂

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to adapt your tactics so they work in smaller cities and towns.

Let’s arbitrarily choose a city size as a top limit: no place larger than Oxford.
(Oxford population: roughly 150k.)

Instead of getting the bang, the immediate priority would be to sort out the unreliable careerist sluts and then to categorise the women who are left into various levels of suitability toward being a mother as well as being your main squeeze.

This should not be incompatible with Black Dragon’s idea that “open long term relationships” are the best working model.

The problem with the Bang series is that it needs a new frontier.

Here’s a new frontier for you — have fun.

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It’s only a matter of time before those small towns and villages are westernized. It’s time to close the book on Europe, and on western civilization in general. This battle cannot be won.

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I assume that, directly after typing this message, you picked up a cleaver and hacked your cock off. No?

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One bit of advice on the small towns and villages: stay away from the ones where there are enough people “at risk” or who are old age pensioners that draw state support.

The reason for this is that “places in need” attract would-be social justice warriors, many of which are younger women, who believe that despite the shitty things that some of these people have done to themselves that they’ll make everything right and “save” some of them. They’ll pack feminism, cultural Marxism, and all of the trappings of “baby socialism” in the suitcases they bring with them, and they will proceed to start fucking up everything.

Instead, look more toward resort and semi-resort towns, even somewhat faded ones, for places where this will work.

I see a relationship with a barista babe from a back-country resort town as more stable than one with a City investment banker babe, for instance — I’ve tried both, and the smell of coffee is better than the smell of bullshit …

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Game depends to some degree on anonymity:

1. Women are less interested in casual sex if there are negative consequences. In a small community, news of her escapades will make the rounds, and she’ll suffer some social penalty.
2. An obvious player can scare off a woman. In that small community a man will find it harder to be play the game without getting noticed.

In a large city, it’s easier for a player to fly under the radar. Women can also self-select their social circles – if they want to avoid people who would disapprove, they can easily find new friends.

There are components to game that work in LTRs and marriages, but Roosh started off focusing on the player lifestyle. I think he wants to find something deeper, but he feels women can’t play that part any more.

I’d compare him to an investor who didn’t re-balance his portfolio before retirement. Now, he may not have known he’d want to retire this soon, but the day is here, and he’s stuck with lots of stocks in a down market. He’d normally have two choices: cash in and take the hit, or delay his retirement while hoping the market improves.

I think Roosh is trying to delay his “retirement”, but he’s also trying to move the market by himself. It’s a monumental task – if it’s even possible.

PS – I don’t think “open long term relationships” work in the very long term – either into old age or once you have kids.

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“… Roosh started off focusing on the player lifestyle. I think he wants to find something deeper, but he feels women can’t play that part any more.”

I think it’s more like he finally realized, “Oh, this thing ‘twixt me legs is for making babies?! I thought ’twas just there for fun!”

There comes a time in every man’s life where he realizes merely “banging” girls is just a game for pubescent boys still in high school, and it becomes harder and harder as you get older to call yourself an Alpha if you are, in fact, still a reproductive failure at the shallow end of natural selection.

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I am eastern european. I can say that,at this point ,starting family is very unpopular thing here. Mostly because finansial reasons. People-both – man and women,don’t want to enslave themselves in two or three jobs to get enough money to live just a normal life. Salaries are very low,after 26 years from soviet collapse. And many local women actually want a family,but they are afraid of living poor,hard life without a comfort,and they choose career…ain’t nothing do about it.

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Do you think Putin is a Zionist globalist banker asset/Freemason?

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Zionists created and control world wide Kratom production.

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In allmost all post-soviet countries ex KGB agents are in government or close to government. Generally-they are not good persons. Let’s say-legalized bandits. They have no rules,no morals,and they never speak what they really have on mind. Unpredictable,sick,greedy people.

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“Why don’t you just find a good man instead? He will take care of you.”

reality check: only someone who doesn´t understand eastern european mentality, history and culture could write something like this. in countries where wars and alcohol consumption made part of everyday life til very recently, families had to count on not being able to rely on man supporting them in any way possible. even nowadays, there are families which have to count on mother´s income no matter how miserable it is. other than that, earning power in EE is very low independently on what your gender is. most families cannot afford to have only one parent that works.

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When I first read the headline for this article topic, I assumed it was going to be about how incredibly difficult it is to get an Eastern European woman into North America…

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Wow Roosh,

you are finally talking about the depopulation agenda and the idea that all that is happening is not some cosmic co-incidence but might just actually be planned.

Well done.

Of course, the depopulation agenda of the committee of 300 is something I learned about almost immediately I started researching in May 2008. It is not hidden by any means.

While you were writing bang xyz books I was standing in a court room opposing the criminals in government and proving that the strawman recapture process worked.

After all, I did that on 2009-11-26….and I have been waiting for men to catch up ever since.

Alas, men have given the committee of 300 5 or 6 more years to be prepared for the inevitable social unrest that they are stirring up. And they have made very good use of those 5 or 6 years, while men have made no use at all of it.

We could have secured the rights of men in 2010 or 2011 if only men had done as my colleagues and I asked you to do.

But the 100,000+ men who I appealed to ignored my appeals.

And now you have a situation that, in my opinion, is going to require that many men fight and die in civil unrest or wars if there is to be any chance of opposing the committee of 300.

The churchill quote comes to mind.

“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

With the work I did in 2008-09 victory was relatively sure in 2010 if men joined me to secure victory. The committee of 300 was not ready and it showed.

Now, given 5 or 6 more years to prepare?

You can bet your little cotton socks they are ready.

And I was even banned off your forums by some moron claiming “self promotion troll”….sigh.

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I know Roosh makes his income from writing so he’s going to keep covering these topics to feed his readership. But I think he already has a viable solution. He’s Iranian. He enjoys living outside the USA, he wants a patriarchal society where women are beautiful, feminine and stay home, remain virgins, make babies and religious values permeate the culture. The elephant in the room staring Roosh in the face is…drumroll…Iran!

Iran is all those things. Why doesn’t he use his father’s family connections to find him a wife over there and go settle in Iran? I don’t know much about the standard of living there, but many seem to live well in Tehran and most Muslim countries will be traditional non-feminist societies for the foreseeable future. Roosh already has bloodline there and family roots, so why is he complaining about Western women when he can be in just the type of society he wants? Especially for a guy that believes in tribalism, Iranians are already his “tribe” and they already have the kind of society he wants. So what’s stopping you from settling in Iran?

These women look really wholesome in a way American women looked in the 50s. Persian women also seem obsessed with beauty. I don’t think any guy has to worry about a Persian women getting fat and letting herself go. Another added plus. This place sounds like Roosh paradise.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/alitezar/2790869106_241c9866aa_b.jpg

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I think the best thing Roosh can do is to give up European women for lost and go to either Iran or Armenia to find himself a wife.

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Iranian women, as it’s been for thousands of years, won’t marry unless a man can provide for their own home and income to provide for the family. Roosh doesn’t advocate for those traditions. FYI: Iranian women have not been chattel for a thousand years….the Koran gives them rights American women didn’t get until the 20th Century.

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I don’t speak Farsi, and don’t think I’d fare well living there, and I’m definitely not bringing an Iranian woman to USA. They turn into monsters here.

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You might have a valid point. I had a woman Iranian teacher back in high school, and she was insufferable. What about Armenia?

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Armenians love to haggle and chisel. Their women might make frugal wives.

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Just thread lightly with Armenian women or women with some Armenian descent here in the West. My ex fiancee was Mexican, but she was quarter Armenian from her mother’s side, who apparently made it to Mexico via Jerusalem in order to escape the Armenian genocide. And let me tell you, when I say the families are close, I mean it. They stick together so much it is asphyxiating. You have to take care of everyone, invite them to dinners, fix their appliances, you can’t take them out to dates without the mother or sisters checking in on them constantly, the men tend to be very cowed, you might end up being a nanny to their children. And then you have to deal with family fights, especially among the women. Combine that with modern Western style consumerism and feminist you go girl ideas, and it’s a shitstorm. And I thought my case was unique, until I bothered to watch the Kardashian clan, who happen to be Armenian, and then it all makes sense. Might explain Bruce turning into Caitlyn a bit. Now I’m not telling you don’t date Middle East or Armenian women for that matter. Just know what you’re getting into, and have an escape plan.

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Like in that reality series?

advancedatheist
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Zoroastrian women don’t marry out, and their religion will go extinct in a few more generations. But have you heard anything about how Zoroastrian Iranian women compare to Muslim Iranian women?

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Well, you are a man, you can learn the lenguage and figure out how to live there, don´t you ?

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Roosh, with all due respect, you’re not giving a real reason to not give Iran a chance. I can understand your reservations of bringing a Persian girl back to the States, but saying that you don’t know the language or don’t know how you’ll do there is not an excuse, considering you’ve learned multiple languages already and have been living in a foreign culture (Eastern Europe) for some time.

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What if you had spend your time and energy trying to address those problems? Still seems like a more viable path than the alternatives.

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That’s not a very convincing reason. You didn’t grow up speaking Polish or Czech either; you either learned some or got by with English when in Europe. I’m sure you could do the same in a country you have roots in, but you simply don’t want to for whatever reason. People who are western at heart avoid living in truly eastern societies because there are too many dysfunctional habits they would miss.

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You are an Iranian male born to an Iranian father – you have the RIGHT to Iranian citizenship. You can learn farsi at Dekhoda in Tehran.

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When your comments start getting censored you know you’re on to the truth

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It’s Adam, Eve, and the Serpent writ large. Nothing more than that.

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I just want to fuck 100’s of women, NOT interested in being stuck with a woman that will hit the wall, stuff marriage, its a scam

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And THIS is the reason it isn’t the government who’s “robbing” you of good women…its men.

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I do understand the female dilemma here. Contrary to manosphere belief, I seriously doubt that life as divorced/single mother with kids is easy.

She might get to “keep” the family house (which largely belongs to the bank due to the large mortgage remaining). If the children are under school age the cost of childcare can be extortionate. The divorce settlement against the average John is hardly going to be much.

Even if she is a professional earning a good salary then money will still be tight due to the large mortgage her and her ex-husband took out based on their combined salaries. If she has no job then government benefits may well provide her with money for accommodation, food, etc but it will likely just provide an existence in a undesirable part of town rather than an aspiration or even pleasant lifestyle.

When it comes to finding a new boyfriend, the basic logistics of dating will be awkward (finding a babysitter, introducing a new man to kids who still love their daddy, etc) and more importantly there is the simple fact that guys worth their salt will choose a girl without kids.

I suspect that the worst part is not even financial – children, especially young children, are very hard work and even for a couple it can be difficult. Struck down with a virus and need to spend a day in bed – that’s not going to happen with a toddler who wakes up at 6am, needs fed and supervised every minute of the day until they finally go to sleep. Kid has a temperature and isn’t allowed to go to nursery – she has to call the boss and explain why she can’t come to work today and perhaps tomorrow, etc.

In 95%+ of cases, I really can’t believe that it’s a fun existence.

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sweden is so gay and feminists, even the arabs are cucked

http://www.svtplay.se/video/1949092/unplay

and you guys were worried about an islamic takeover

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I keep seeing men of about average weight, or a little over, who have obese wives or girlfriends.

These men have the look of death in their eyes.

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I was out to dinner once with a really good looking Latina I was with at one time, coming out of a restaurant after we ate.

An average man with a fat, sloppy wife and kids in tow was staring hard at my lady as they got in their minivan. I’ll never forget how he looked.

I could feel the amazing contrast. What a sensation.

Men today just throw away their hope and get with fatties and frumpy bitches. How sad.

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most guys who marry below their sexual market value do so because they are shamed into it by family and society. it’s their own fault really, for not having the balls to be their own man and say NO.

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Latinas will rip you off sooner or later.

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That’s a very vague, and mostly wrong, statement.

I’ve been to what, 5 latin countries, and speak decent spanish. It depends on the woman. Many I’ve known were very honest, but random women I met often were not.

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I´ve been living in Venezuela, colombia and Dominican Republic. Al women i dated in those countries, while they realized i would never bring them to my country…they left me. Conclusion ????

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And? I was married to one, was in relationships from some from Panama, the DR, and Colombia, Peru.

Yes, some weren’t honest, but plenty were. After a while it became much easier to separate the too.

I don’t blame women for wanting a better life, that’s part of the appeal of USA/Canadian/etc men to them. But of course, I can’t speak for everyone’s experiences. Everyone has to filter out the good ones from the bad.

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Speaking of depopulation, someone will probably bring up the population figure on the Georgia Guidestones.

If you don’t that figure, set up your own rock with a bigger number carved into it.

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Socialism and feminism will kill western society.

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As I see life going, I notice everything is a cycle. In a generation, young women will notice old women unhappy and childless. We’ll see culture collapse by itself and new generations will see mistakes of old generation. After winter, you can expect spring then summer.

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I honestly don’t think that’s going to happen. Western society is too far gone. Men no longer have any reason to fight. Hopefully the rest of the world will learn from the death of the west and Europe.

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Like everything else, it’s more about adaptation. Life will never go back to the way it was 50 years ago because we live in a vastly different world, and those changes are being driven by social forces but technology is playing a major role. You need to figure out how to thrive in the current really instead of just bitching about and hoping it will go back to some wishful, idyllic version of how things were. Adapt or die. Or join the Amish.

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Well, you sort of answered your own conundrum here, Roosh: “Unless you start visiting villages or churches, you’ll end up disappointed.” You speak as if it’s hopeless to make a suitable wife nowadays even as you elude to the answers.

Yes, go to a small town or village. What did you expect to find in a city, anyhow? Finding a decent girl – and EE sounds like a fine place for that – shouldn’t be harder than squashing all these ideas into a single plan and putting it into action… assuming you aren’t fat or ugly, of course – those guys are truly without hope – but you’re not ugly, Roosh, and I’m not, and I’m sure some of your other readers are passable, too.

The requirements to making a suitable wife: virgins, compatible culture, small towns or rural settings; what is she interested in? how do you get her?

The answer is educating yourself in things like ages of consent – virgins are young, so what’s legal and where, and to which countries can you take a girl to to legally have a relationship if her current location isn’t suitable? It’s important to obey the law, now, men. Educate yourself on it. Compatible culture is important, but women often adopt her husband’s culture, anyhow (especially younger brides) – the more important thing here is which culture will allow/support your courtship to begin with? What’s she interested in? Money. How do you get her? Give her a diamond-studded tiara and tell her she’s a princess. It isn’t rocket science. It just takes planning.

It’s true that I’m chasing a “unicorn” for my second wife, but it’s far from impossible. It’s also truly appalling that a man might have to travel half way around the world to find a girl, and set up home in a foreign country for a few years just to make his marriage legal. But what the fuck else are you going to do with your life? Waste it fucking feminists? LOL No.

The game-plan ought to be something along the lines – do your research, scrape up money, then relocate to a quiet town in your chosen place and be prepared to stay for a long while. Integrate with the locals and win some respect, then identify a suitable girl and crash your bank account into her like a runaway train. There’s no reason (aside being a fucking ugly-assed mother fucker) the success rate shouldn’t be 100%.

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What’s the deal with needing a virgin?

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Check out marital statistics. Virgins are much more likely to pair-bond and marry for life (marriages with virgin brides are less likely to end in divorce). Given that, why wouldn’t a man want a virgin? The divorce rate increases rapidly for every additional sex partner the bride has had prior to marriage.

It’s also a matter of personal preference. A woman who doesn’t value her body and keep it for her life partner is, personally, unattractive to me.

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I feel like you didn’t actually answer the girl’s objection. If she skipped her education and focused on being a good wife, she’d most likely be financially dependent on her husband. If she continues her education, she might not make as good a wife, but she gains the tools she needs for financial independence.

You’re saying that she should focus on being a wife for the good of society. However, isn’t it safer _for her_ to maintain the skills needed to be independent?

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No she is not independent…she is dependent on the welfare state and the economy of the state is about to collapse. Females being independent is a fairly new concept for human societies and is only happening because we all now living in pretty comfortable enviroment

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Yeah. Wait until the feminist generation retires – childless leeches who led worthless careers and didn’t save for their retirement. The largest voting bloc will be the elderly, and they’ll suck the tiny generation of tax-paying youngsters dry. I wonder how it’ll be handled. Aside importing immigrants to compensate for the failure of “successful” feminists and destroying the remaining Western culture in the process, I imagine the younger generations are going to start asking some very serious questions about just what kind of people should be allowed to vote…

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I agree that female economic independence is a recent development. However, this isn’t necessarily due to any “welfare state”; it’s due to technology. Until recently, earning power was strongly linked to physical strength. Technology has broken that link.

If society collapses, of course all bets are off. Until then, she can choose to be independent.

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I would argue that women are truly independent on men. Setting aside the physical strength as it is now pretty much irrelevant, their attraction mechanism towards men is based upon power, wealth and status. It is common knowledge that they are attracted to men with higher status, power and wealth than what they have (which proves that they are not truly independent on men). Therefore, it would not be a good choice for women, in general, to become independent on men because then it would be a lot more difficult for them to find an attractive partner (because of the wealth and status competion) and thus creating a family and having children. Also pursuing a career to become independent means that a woman should spend the best fertile years of her life in aquiring degrees and cerifications. After entering the employment market, she would have less fertile years available if she still wants to have a family. In my opinion, it is better for a woman to choose a good partner first at an earlly age of her life that he can provide her and then maybe trying in acquiring a degree or pursue a career…Offcourse, if she does not want to have a family, she could become independent or whatever she wants to do…but then again this should be an exception and not the rule if we want to surivive and procreate to the next generations…

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OR consider this: Maybe it’s not that times are comfortable. Maybe it’s that these days it’s unreasonable to expect a man to do all the breadwinning, especially with the sheer cost of raising a child. It’s also possible that women simply have passions just like men and are able to pursue them now.

What if you support paid leave for pregnancy (for both parents) and better early childcare programs? If you want to give future generations the best possible shot at thriving, why not support family units as a whole? Let both parents be involved in raising their children and let two incomes improve quality of life.

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Women don’t have “passions just like men”. There are sex differences here and women are by far more choosier in who they mate with. An example: put 10 average men and 10 average women in a room together and get them to write down anonymously who in the room they’d have sex with if offered. The women will choose 1 or 2 men, the men will choose 8 or 9 women. Men are WAY more sex-driven than women. It’s just feminist slut propaganda that preaches otherwise, and it doesn’t withstand skeptical analysis.

You aren’t paying attention to what Adonisdim is saying, either. Women are attracted to wealth and status much more than men are. Due to this, if a woman is equally as wealthy as her husband, she will probably lose interest in him and the family will fall apart. In a serious family, however, this rarely happens, because she will be pregnant and burdened by children far too much to generate an income. However, the fact that it’s true does poke holes in feminist theory – equal income between partners and healthy long-term relationship is never going to be possible due to wealth and status conditional female attraction. It’s just a dream, an idea – it doesn’t happen in real life (at least, not for serious, long-term relationships).

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Okay, what about my family? My mother makes more money than my father and always has. She had three kids but continued on through residency and started a successful private practice from the ground up. She and my dad are still together and still very much in love. He’s always worked as well but his occupation doesn’t make as much, even though he enjoys it. Us kids are doing very well and going on to start similar families with equal partnerships. I’d call us a serious family. It’s only one anecdote, but I’m sure you’ll find others out there, particularly when the psychological and sociological research supports the benefits of both parents engaging in child raising. Personally, I’ve dated men who made less than me. It was never a factor, and we broke up for different, normal reasons that did not have to do with me “losing interest.”

Maybe your understanding of women and families is narrowed by your limited perception. Your obsession on our reproductive abilities is frankly pretty creepy, and I’m guessing it colors the way women respond to you. Just saying.

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I cannot comment on you personal situation because I don’t know it, and even if I did there are always exceptions and you may indeed be right in your particular case. This has nothing to do with the desires on average of women, however. For example, when given points to “spend” designing a ficticious optimal mate, women on average invest highly in status and income (whereas men by contrast invest highly in looks and youth/fertility and generally couldn’t care less how much money she has). Moreover, when women have a lot of money themselves (i.e. independence), their desire for a high income mate is proven to actually increase, not decrease.

You appear to be asserting that women on average will stay with men they profess not to be sexually attracted to. You’re doing this because you’re a promiscuous woman viewed as low mate value by the opposite sex, and you’re unconsciously trying to down-play the value of other women who are deemed as more valuable by the opposite sex and thus make yourself seem of higher value in unison. This is an effective strategy a lot of women use – like slut shaming, if you convince a man that some women are worth less than he actually thinks they are (which is possible) then you stand a better chance of gaining/keeping him yourself. Natural selection has repetitively selected in favor of women who are good at this (for obvious reasons), but not all men are so easily deceived. I’m a realist – I know what I want in a woman, and I’ve seen the statistics of what women want by their own admissions. You cannot dupe me, honey.

Both parents should be involved in raising a child for a healthy family environment, yes. I never questioned that. However, that doesn’t mean both parents have to contribute financially. No credible study would ever have suggested that. You’re either making it up or twisting the meaning in whatever source you’re thinking of.

As for how women respond to me – most promiscuous women will spit in my face, but chaste women like me because I make them feel good about themselves. I’m not a Beta male, though. I’m married and have 2 daughters, and I’m only 29 and I’ll find a second wife soon and have many more children. I’m doing fine, thank you very much. Your spit doesn’t reduce my success (unfortunate for you). It just so happens that there are still millions of women in the world who love guys like me – young, very hot girls many in SE Asia where I live. Not hard to find if you’re young and handsome.

You keep at it telling your boyfriends how good and equal you are with those silly chaste girls who live round the corner, but. If he’s desperate enough, he might just decide to believe you. I wish you many children and good luck in your endeavors.

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I have no idea how you got any implications about men being unattractive or my sex life out of what I posted, but happily, neither of these are true. It seems like you’re projecting your beliefs onto me here, and I think we’ve gone a little too far into the deep end for me. I’m glad you’ve found happiness and a loving and supportive family. I hope one of these days you’ll feel comfortable entertaining other ideas regarding women and our motivations and beliefs, if only for your daughters and their future dreams. Good luck to you!

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You said you had “dated” men. I assumed those dates led to sex. Sorry if I was wrong. I never partook in dating, because I don’t like casual sex/short-term relationships and I always assumed that’s what dating is about. Sorry if I was wrong, but you ought to be aware of perceptions of things you describe and be clear in your words.

I’m not sure what “other” ideas you’re referring to. I’m referring to statistics and, assuming the statistics are correct, this should mean most of what I’m saying is fairly accurate. I’m not an idealist, you know. I’m saying things because I genuinely believe them to be true (not because I believe they SHOULD be true, like idealists), and I’m only interested in the truth. Saying, like, “women on average are less attracted to men of equal or lower income than themselves,” this is a true thing. Can you disprove it? Seriously? I’d like to know.

Talking in these threads is retarded, though, to be honest, and I don’t think I’ll continue it. If you think you’ve got an intelligent argument to make, email it to me and we’ll talk further:
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/ oh, and I didn’t say the men promiscuous women might settle down with are inherently physically unattractive, although they might be. I was referring to general inferior mate value. That is, the men might be attractive but otherwise unreliable, slack and lazy, poor fathers, so on. The men who make the best husbands (handsome, hard-working, committed to family – the true alphas) only settle for chaste women.

There are a thousand arguments I could make with evolutionary science examples to back them, anyhow. Email me if you want to hear them, and get a better glimpse of the ultimate causes I’m referring to.

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How do you choose a good partner early in life when all the “red pill alphas” only view you as a fuck toy?

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If you don’t view yourself as a fuck-toy and remain chaste, a good man will eventually see your value and propose to you, especially if it is known locally that you’re saving yourself for marriage (and making the men who desire you think about marriage in kind if they want you).



Men pursue two strategies. 1, yes, they want as much sex as they can get, and if they can get it from you then nigh every one of them will try to do that – this is the short term reproduction strategy (sociobiology here). 2, men prefer only chaste women for marriage – men who marry promiscuous women aren’t top quality men – this is the long term reproduction strategy, and it exists for reasons as ensuring the woman is committed to the pair-bond and paternal reliability and so on.



It’s a woman’s choice which reproduction strategy she wants to cater for. If you ever want to marry a good man, though, then you need to save yourself for him from day 1 or your options will be limited.

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You should avoid players and play the love game: Take some time to know each other before you have sex. If someone wants only sex from you he will eventually leave early on, trust me on this. This is really important because if you play the slut game (rushing to have “passionate” sex with the exciting alphas that will eventually dump you), you will have hard time to emotionally bond with a partner and be happy. All the statistics show this : stable marriages (no divorce) are directly correlated with the number of partners a woman have slept with, the lower the number (idealy zero), the better. I am not saying to be a prude or something but you should value very much with whom you would sleep with. Offcourse, It is really hard to find a decent partner (for both sexes) these days especially if you leave in a western country… but you should never lose hope.

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Really women should wait until marriage. Not proud of it but as a young man would game women into believing it was more than it was to get them into

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Can’t she do both? The problem as I see it is that society is not set up to cater for the female sex in the work-force. See, the idea of feminists is to take women and shove them into the roles of men. This was never really an intelligent idea, because women are not men. If they try to do it the men’s way, how many children can she really have? I don’t think it’s possible to do it the men’s way and still be a good mother with a large, happy family.

What needs to happen is the women’s way needs to evolve, rather than simply assassinating femininity and forcing women into the men’s role. The ideal time for women to partner up and have children is indeed in the mid-teens through early twenties. This is just biological reality. Fortunately, this is actually good news for people who are smart enough to work with their females and cultivate a women’s way of being both prosperous and a good mother.

It isn’t hard, after all, for a pregnant woman to continue to study, and if she has parents who care and supporting extended family, then she should also find a reasonable amount of free day-care available. Obviously, society needs to evolve to incorporate early motherhood with effective education. Doing like this, as a women’s way of life, a woman could have several children by her mid-twenties and also come out with a diploma or something. She might have a slower start in life, but her later life, after her kids are a few years older, she could have a huge career if she so desired. However, if she puts off childhood, chances are she’ll end up with a loser husband, only 1 or 2 kids, and a divorce, and probably a career that goes nowhere, too, given the impact of the rest of her stressful life. I mean, women cannot expect to have healthy children after 35 (they can, but it’s difficult, and planning to start a family at THIS age is blatant poor planning). If she doesn’t start early, age 35 arrives sooner than she might think. It’s simply not an option. The feminist way is responsible for destroying motherhood and collapsing Western population.

The leftist approach is simply dumb – forcing women into a role shaped for men. It’s cultural suicide, and it doesn’t create successful women – it creates a broken society and failed mothers.

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This is actually a pretty interesting idea. It’s definitely a good compromise between education and family-building. However, it changes a woman’s education from “guarantee of independence” to “insurance policy”. Women who want to be truly independent won’t be in favor of this.

Of course, starting a family generally means giving up your independence (for both the man and the woman). Does this mean that women who truly value independence above everything else need to forgo children? Or just that women who value motherhood are automatically less focused on independence?

I guess my overall point is this – how do you structure things such that an individual’s best choices (i.e., based on self-interest) are also the best choices for society?

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Women don’t always get educations because we’re looking for a guarantee of independence. I’d argue most of us simply have passions and want to pursue them, just like guys do. We still want to have families, and you guys clearly want to have families, so maybe the problem isn’t with female ambition and instead in what the society ISN’T doing to help young families succeed.

Consider: People in general, male and female, who value financial independence, mobility, etc have to forgo having children because it’s so expensive and so difficult to juggle with the current working environment. How do you solve this then? In practice it’s been found that offering programs like the OP suggested (paid maternity/paternity leave, access to early childcare, better work/life balance for parents, etc) actually raises business productivity, improves employee retention, and ultimately saves way more money than it costs. Children who have both parental figures involved in their lives develop way better than if they’ve got a dad who’s working himself to the bone and unable to take an active role in raising them.

Encouraging young families and helping both husbands and wives actually benefits society.

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Late reply…

You just need to abandon the idea of generalized equality and realize there are multiple meanings of success.

Equality under the law is not what I mean, by the way – all should be treated equally under the law – but actual physical equality is just a fairy-tale. That’s not to say either men or women are better, just that they’re different, and you need to realize and appreciate this.

As for success; reproductive success is very important. Most feminists and women who consider themselves “successful” are reproductive failures. You need to realize humans were made to reproduce, natural selection is still selecting in favor of those who reproduce, and reproduction isn’t a small thing.

Having a family in a stable marriage is also statistically proven to increase the happiness of a women’s life. How do you think happiness should be incorporated into any definition of success? Is it not relevant if the most “successful” women in the world are also the least satisfied with their lives?

I have 2 daughters, and I’m all for bending over backwards to allow them to have any benefit they can. Yet when raising and guiding them, I also have to consider their happiness and their reproductive success, not just their financial success (and when put like this, pursuing money at the expense of happiness and reproductive success should stand out as fickle). The simple truth is women are burdened by their nature (child-bearing), and they cannot excel in everything at once like a man can. Respecting females is in understanding this, not denying it, and in working with them to achieve the best results they can despite their sex.

In any case, females are also a blessing. I mean, somebody has to bear the burden of carrying children, and it just happens to be the wife. This earns a lot of appreciation from me.

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More…

The larger social responsibility is also important. The birth rate in most Western countries is now below the death rate, meaning the population isn’t replacing itself, it isn’t sustainable, and the country and culture is dying. Feminism is largely to blame. In order for a population to be sustainable, every woman needs to have 2.1 children. Now, you need to realize that for every woman who does NOT have 2 children, another woman has to have extra children to pick up the slack (meaning it’s socially irresponsible), but this isn’t happening and the cultures are dying.

Immigrants are imported to replace the population. Slowly but steadily, the West is handing their countries over to foreigners. Oh, certain Western communities will never die. Closely knit Christian communities, for example, are having plenty of chidden and they aren’t at risk of cultural extinction. However, the left, feminists, and all progressives don’t have a place in the future. This makes me laugh. Progressives are a temporary phenomenon because they don’t reproduce adequately – the future belongs to local conservatives and foreign imported conservatives. Also, given the behavioral traits that lead people to use condoms, contraceptives, and have abortions are also being bred out of the gene pool by natural selection, the left is quite literally going to become not just culturally extinct but also genetically wiped out. They are committing their own genocide.

If you understand any of what I’m saying, you should be able to realize that feminism is stupid, premature, and hasn’t thought things through. Their plans won’t change the future of women. In a couple of hundred years, feminism will be a footnote in a history book. If they had a bit more respect for traditional womanhood, this wouldn’t be the case, but that’s their choice.

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You’re actually talking about a lot of feminist and leftist concepts here. The left really wants paid maternity and paternity leave, better access to early childcare, better women’s healthcare, etc for exactly the reasons you’ve stated. I haven’t seen the same thing from the right, though maybe it’s out there. Most of them focus on taking away women’s rights, but actually if you make working easier on families in general, you help everyone. Businesses find that offering paid pregnancy leave for men and women actually raises their productivity and employee retention, and children who have active father figures do way better behaviorally, education-wise, and later in life.

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No. Leftists categorically encourage teenage abortion and promote leaving children until much later in life when the woman is virtually incapable of getting pregnant, which is all damaging to women’s reproductive success. I am pro female reproductive success, which makes me an opponent of the left.

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Oh, and I was doing research. If you do find a “unicorn” and want to start a legal relationship, Philippines is best place for a lengthy honeymoon, if you’re smart enough to understand what I mean.

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Why not head back to Latin America Roosh?

Latinas are big on family.

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I do not usually comment on sites just lurking here and there… but this article expresses exactly what i was thinking these days. I really feel that we are being robbed of everything good in life that is worth fighting for…

Unfortunately, this breaking down of traditions, family values, customs, morality etc is being done in a larger global scale… Hell i am from Greece which is not a fully westernized country yet and we are suffering from the same diseases you have in America (feminism, leftism, consumerism, individualism, hook up culture, decedance etc) as a result we have one of the lowest birth rates in europe (1.3 and dropping) and there is already an “immigration crisis” ,apart from the “economic crisis”, with the plan to gradually replace us. if current trends continues will be surely replaced in a matter of 2 or 3 generations…The same thing is happening all across europe too. And the saddest part is that people here are so dumped down that they cannot see the truth even if it is happening in front of their eyes. There are even people promoting the destruction taking place without knowing it (the usefull idiots)… They say “oh we should not be racists, we should help these poor immigrants”, “oh it is good for women to have a career, to be educated etc”, “oh gay people should express themselves openly” etc… All these things “feel” right but there not… that is the trick right there… they are constantly manipulating our feelings and use them against us.

I was aware of the New World Order and their plan a long time ago but i always had a doubt (and a hope i must say) that all these where just “conspiracies” as people around me always told me. But as time goes by their agenda is being unraveled and many of these things are now openly stated. (There are many political leaders that have mentioned the new world order even greek prime ministers). The revelation for me was when i saw the documentary thegreateststorynevertold that pretty much questions the history behind world war 2. (If you haven’t seen this yet, i urge you to do so). Many things of the official story of world war 2 that we were taught in schools did not make sense (the holocast, hitler being a madman that wanted to conquer the world, the aryan race nonsense, etc). If you understand the real reasons behind world war 2, you can understand why we are now living in such a depraved world. World war 2 was actually a war of ideologies: globalism vs nationalism.

As of now, I am pretty much convinced that there is a global subversion scheme (“conspiracy” or whatever you want to call it) being undertaken in all western states to destroy everything diverse (ethinicity, customs, religions, way of life) and make them a melting pot so that the NWO will emerge… People will become numbers-slaves to the elite in a cashless society (“so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name” as it is stated in the book of revelation) close to what george orwell depicted in 1984…There are so much evidence of all these happening that denying it is like burying your head in the sand. I hope there would be a global awakening soon for all people around the world to fight against this globalist agenda

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I saw that the Greeks could summon the violence, which was heartening for me to see …

It was less heartening to learn that the violence was being summoned so that certain Greeks could enjoy the economic and social lies that they’d been helping to spin.

There’s a party everywhere known as the “Vote for Comfort” party, and it attracts even more votes than the “Vote for Self-Interest” party, believe it or not …

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From my own experience, EE women are very open to western guys. I have experience that with these chicks you can easily earn points while with a western girl this details are considered a given.
Details like been from a Western country are perceive by this girls like high status, corporate job adds more status, economic independence adds more status and so on.
My opinion about Roosh ???? hats off for been able to make money from male social and sexual frustration, that´s all.

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Being white and Western gets you points all over the fucking world, man (in these poorer countries, that is). Roosh isn’t really Caucasian, but he looks close enough and he’s in the same bag. It’s only the Western countries themselves where their men are treated like shit.

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“The less a woman has to depend on a man’s resources, the less she will have trained herself on how to be a good wife and mother. She may still end up being a good wife ”

Hence it is important to realize that women do not care for men outside material resources. Indeed the elites are doing some sick shit in an effort in their de-population agenda, but oddly enough st the same time revealing women’s true nature.

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My three school-age daughters struggle with defining their future career/motherhood constantly. I often tell them they can marry during university and to date men much old than them (when they’re over 18) so marriage is a consideration. My one daughter wants to be a doctor and I repeatedly show her articles of female doctors that are mothers. Meg Kelly’s life was discussed with my one daughter who wants to be a lawyer (Meg Kelly is in the magazines, so easy to describe her motherhood/career during a meal.)

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You’re a really good dad. My mother was a doctor, and while it meant hard work for both our parents when it came to raising us, there was never any doubt how much she loved us, and she was always able to find time for us kids. If it helps, she and my father met while in medical school, and they’re roughly the same age. I have a few very good friends who met doing Doctors Without Borders too. Good on you for making sure they know it’s possible.

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Roosh….a Persian man-child living with his mom whom spends his life boasting that he’s a sex predator vs a bachelor seeking a wife Traditionally — an Iranian man is required to financially support and a provide a home for his bride and their spawn. That tradition does not include taking a wife home to live with the groom’s mommy. Due to that cultural tradition, there are many older Iranian men, like Roosh, whom pimp their parents instead of making themselves qualified to have a wife and children.

He’s classically what Iranians themselves call “Bah-chay nan-nay” = a mama’s boy. We have to assume his mama banged a bunch o’ menfolk as an illiterate impoverished koos in order to earn her son’s devotion. Why else would he be still living with her instead of marrying one of his banged inventory and moving out with his banged bride?

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There are high quality women who want to be full time wives and mothers, even in the west. They just get taken off the market early, often before they even turn 20, so you never meet them and hence think they don’t exist. The best thing to do is get the youngest woman possible according to the laws in your country. In some places this means a 16 or 17 year old, that’s what I did. Teen girls have had less years of brainwashing and are much more open to absorbing your views, even if they don’t agree with them initially. They are also more beautiful and have less baggage.

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“id. Teen girls have had less years of brainwashing and are much more open to absorbing your views, even if they don’t agree with them initially. They are also more beautiful and have less baggage”

Well age 20 sounds good, but im in my 40’s so getting married that’s not happening for me. I suspect I’ll just be banging 25 year olds until I can no longer get it up.

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Quick question? Why is it that women are the ones who need to stay home and not go to school? Is it because they’re the ones giving birth? Plenty of partnerships involve men being the maternal figure. Studies have actually shown that women do better in school than men, so how does it benefit society to have millions of intelligent women not working? It seems like your advocating for a stupid society.

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Can this ‘maternal’ man breastfeed from his manboobs?

“It seems like your advocating for a stupid society.”

It’s “you’re,” Miss Educated.

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Fun fact: Not all women can breast feed, sometimes the baby actually draws blood from the nipple. Pretty Gross huh

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“Plenty of partnerships involve men being the maternal figure. ”

‘Plenty’ = ‘the one or two I know about and therefore rely on because the whole world needs to conform to my subjective experience. My subjective experience not including the long term educational or mental health outcomes of kids forced into that arrangement.’

“Studies have actually shown that women do better in school than men, ”

Interesting how you don’t cite any. The next question being: in what environment do women do better in school than men? Because if it’s not an equal, objective environment, women “doing better” amounts to sexism in favour of women and against men.

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I can’t speak for what the other poster was going for, but I can offer some sources to help the discussion.

The University of Illinois, University of Oxford, and a few other studies have found that children who have actively engaged, caring father figures do better in education and socially while exhibiting fewer behavioral health issues: http://www.parents.com/parenting/better-parenting/style/the-role-of-fathers-with-daughters-and-sons/

Interestingly, women who serve as the primary breadwinner still do about 70% of the household chores and work, so it’s not all doom and gloom for you guys: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/our-gender-ourselves/201206/the-rise-the-stay-home-dad

I don’t know if this would satisfy the conditions of “doing better” but women now earn degrees of all sorts at higher rates than men. The type of degree, college, and field don’t really matter, though there’s still some discrepancy in the STEM categories. Source: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72

There is actually an interesting correlation between sexism and workforce shifts related to jobs with college degrees, but the theory is that this as more to do with men refusing to do “feminine” jobs while women are happy to take on “masculine” jobs. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/storyline/wp/2014/12/11/women-are-dominating-men-at-college-blame-sexism/

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Let’s see…

–> The parents.com website doesn’t include any links to the actual studies.

–> The psychologytoday.com website links me to a study ( https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-66274516.html ) which points out that there is a significant argument — i.e. no academic consensus — as to whether or not women are actually doing anything more than men.

It also points out, in the introduction to that study, that women are doing half the housework they did in 1965. So let’s dispense with the amusing victimhood of women as housewives: you’re literally doing half the work your mother and grandmother did.

–> The nces.ed.gov table refers me to set of statistics on graduates. Too bad it doesn’t support your argument. It says the proportion of women earning bachelor degrees hasn’t changed since 2000. It’s still 57.4%. And the figures don’t indicate how many women then prove they wasted their higher educations by then dropping out of the workforce to have kids. The types of degree do matter, too: the areas in which women are increasingly seeking degrees are at the PhD level — perennial students, that is. Law degrees are notoriously oversubscribed and women law graduates whinge regularly about how oversupplied the law market is.

–> The washingtonpost.com article provides any number of theories, none of which are substantiated, for why more women have degrees than men.

I can offer theories, too, one of which the previous poster did not address: that women are getting more degrees not because of any natural genetic advantage, but because the education system is biased against them.

And as for the suggestion men refuse to do “feminine” jobs? Show me 57.4% of women occupying in the deep sea fishing, oil platform, plumbing, electrical, waste management, or IT trades and then you can bleat about sexism. Women don’t want dirty jobs that men do, even when said dirty jobs offer a better wage than a university graduate can get.

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Feminists are evil because a core tenet of their philosophy is the freedom to kill babies and, if they decide to let them live, the right of the mother to mutilate her son’s penis in the cruel and evil circumcision ritual. Then women buy the stem cells from the aborted babies and from foreskins to use in anti-aging creams so they can get attention and stroke their egos for longer.

Really there is nothing more evil than killing your own child! Any woman who has looked at the sweet face of a little baby, and be able to justify child murder, is the most evil creature imaginable. How could you? Especially since as a woman, motherhood is your ultimate purpose? Why else would we have wombs and breasts if we were not meant to use them for their purposes?

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i guess u talking about abortion, when the ‘baby’ that is killed is literally just a bundle of cells no bigger and much less developed and intelligent than a spider. You’d kill a spider and wouldnt bat an eyelid but a zygote inside a living humans body, (that may only exist because of rape, that may be developed into a baby and born into a world where they can’t be looked after or provided for, or perhaps that giving birth to it would kill the child and the mother) then we must put the zygote above the mothers rights and decisions

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Human life begins at conception. A spider is just an insect but a fertilized egg is a human. It is your own progeny. What does it matter whether it’s intelligent or not? Whether it’s big or not? It is still your child.

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I love how baby-killers resort to outliers to justify their genocide.

“that may only exist because of rape,” — Statistics call this maybe five percent of all pregnancies, bearing in mind said statistics presume rape to include consensual sex that’s later regretted by the participant, i.e. not rape.

Of that five percent, in the one study conducted, 11% spontaneously aborted, thirty percent kept the child, and five more percent gave the child up for adoption. The other fifty percent aborted.

That means 97.5% of women will never need a bent coathanger to protect them from the Rape Fairy.

” that may be developed into a baby and born into a world where they can’t be looked after or provided for”

Also see: adoption. Also see: governmental assistance. Also see: family. None of which require child murder to take place.

“that giving birth to it would kill the child and the mother”

Less than 1 percent of all abortions, worldwide, are conducted to save the mother’s life. Medically, it is possible for almost any patient to be brought through pregnancy alive, unless the mother suffers from a fatal illness such as cancer or leukemia, and, if so, abortion would be unlikely to prolong, much less save, life. So again, 99% of women will never need to abort for this reason. Idiot.

Indeed, the mortality rate is much higher — for women, that is — for abortion than it is childbirth. You are several times more likely to die due to complications from an abortion than you are giving birth to a child. Abortions also significantly raise the occurrence rate of later ectopic pregnancies, pelvic inflammatory disease, premature later births, and malformations in later children.

Get real. Your body is not evolved, designed, adapted, take your pick, to willingly and consciously induce an abortion. It is evolved, designed, adapted, take your pick, to bear a child to term.

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Uh…it wasn’t women who invented elective surgery for male infants.

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In fact, even the majority of men need not go to universities.

But what would benefit society more is women working in their houses. And indeed house-work needs intelligence. A stupid woman cannot maintain her own house.

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When I was younger, I’d have thought “WTF?” upon reading this article. But the wisdom I’ve gained from age and experience make me agree with this. These days, when I read about things like my female nieces getting scholarships, I don’t consider it a good thing at all. And the main reason for that is that the “female scholarship crowd” of my own generation are all unmarried, unhappy, obese and in jobs they don’t like. This is success?!

Compare this with my parents’ generation, where the women are now around age 70 and not only have had happier, fuller lives than their daughters, but often look better! (Think Christina Hoff Sommers vs. TrigglyPuff.) Ironically, many of these so-called uneducated women had careers after their kids were grown and are more successful than their “degreed” daughters who have worked like slaves all their lives.

Raising daughters as sons might earn parents claps on the back from their Yuppie cronies, but it’s created several generations of maladjusted, barren women and, by extension, disgruntled men. The experiment failed. Back to traditions.

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Check my comment above: “The environment of women empowerment is an artificial and unnatural
environment maintained by continuous funding and by the laws. Continuous funding as in funding movies, songs, television, radio, newspapers, magazines, universities, institutes, NGOs etc.”

Scholarships are part of university funding.

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whys get married?

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Come on, let’s be honest. In Russia there are a bagillion girls more than happy to be housewives/mothers. And just because u find girls in big cities studying from small towns it doesn’t mean they will put careers over their families. Totally untrue. This is just baiting readers with negative articles for more hits. This was quite an exaggeration.

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“And just because u find girls in big cities studying from small towns it doesn’t mean they will put careers over their families.”

The mere fact of removing women and even men from their villages to the towns is a sufficient cause of corrupting them. Other than knowing how to read and calculate, peasants don’t need to become erudites.

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Ridiculous

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Okay so you are saying that I can find a man and drop out college to be a mother right now in my 21 years of life? Well then please meet me up with such kind of man!!

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Thanks for another great article.
I’m married 20 years with four kids and consider it a successful endeavor.

It’s not easy but requires me to always fight her attempt to passively dominate the relationship.

I admit I was white-knighting early in the marriage. I did it all the heavy lifting and she is uncomfortable now with the expectation she’s to do more to keep it all together.

Anyways, IMHO marriage is not a panacea even with a fictional unicorn. The man always will be expected to provide ease of life for her and she should be expected to provide comfort, when we keep the woman on task.

Lastly, the purpose of heterosexual, monogamous, permanent and fruitful marriage is about community strength now and future.
Everything else is a secondary benefit (sex, companionship). Marriage is not and end in itself, only a path to a something beyond ourselves. GBA

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Great article, says all there is to it.

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Who understands Russian can see this video with Roosh. He was not very brave talking about girls as he is brave in his articles.
In his book he used photos of girls he has never met.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2INybBpXkM&feature=youtu.be

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You know that Roosh put out that video himself, and there is subtitles in English on it?

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It’s amusing you take up Roosh on the subject of bravery while hiding behind an anonymous username and private posting history.

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Marcus Aurelius is your real name?

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I’m not the one anonymously criticising Roosh. Or were you simply calling him a coward because you claim expertise in being a coward yourself?

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If you like Roosh it is your right. I should not write my real name or open my account because somebody doesn’t like my account is closed.

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How you choose to rationalise your cowardice is a matter for you. It doesn’t change that people who hide like mice, too scared of showing the world what their views are, are only amusing when they call other people cowards.

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You can read my comments here. According to what you write most of people on this site are cowards because their profiles are closed. I can be coward, I am a woman.

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You are a coward because you are a woman. Whether on your period or not.

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What kind of lazy slob is eating tuna out of a can? If I were in that position, I’d at least get something to microwave or stop by a Quiznos on the way from work. You know Campbells makes soup cans you can safely microwave now? You don’t even need to get out a bowl and pot to warm it up!

Tuna out of a can; ridiculous.

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If my mother hadn’t been educated and worked, we would have starved to death. My Dad hasn’t contributed one dime to the family after he lost his job in 1986. What would you have women do? Not go to school? Starve in the streets? I saw my mother struggle to raise us alone, and I got my degree in Chemistry and Nuclear Engineering, and thank God, I did. My husband didn’t want me after I broke my neck and jaw, and I’d have had nothing to fall back on had I not attended college. With my degree, I was able to walk away without taking any of my ex’s money. I could take care of myself. Both genders must keep their promises if this utopia of men having good wives and families is going to work.

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by law a stay at home women is worthless to any man.

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Funny.