There are many countries in Eastern Europe that have superior women than in America, but when you start to examine these women as wives and not only casual sex partners, you encounter a big problem: they value their education and careers above that of family. The reason? Education is offered for free or at a greatly subsidized rate by the government. Western governments are therefore programming women into becoming sterile office slaves and consumers instead of good wives and mothers.

I’ve met hundreds of Eastern European women from several countries, and because I’ve focused on living in cities, I’ve been unable to find more than a handful under the age of 25 who has shown eagerness into soon becoming a mom. Instead, the girls I’ve known have made their future employment the most important goal of their lives. Here is a conversation I’ve had several times:

Me: “Why don’t you want to be a mom soon?”

Girl: “Because I have to focus on my career first.”

Me: “Why don’t you just find a good man instead? He will take care of you.”

Girl: “Because men are bad. They cheat and become alcoholics. *Insert horror story of an awful man who a friend of a friend got married to.*”

Me: “So your job is more important than your family?”

Girl: “I need a backup plan in case my husband becomes bad.”

Men are bad, and because of that, she must spend years in university where she gets to experiment with different cocks and where she is firmly taken out of her natural role to learn how to serve a corporate master while her future kid goes to day care and her husband eats cans of tuna because his wife is too tired from work to cook, assuming she even knows how. A man’s marriage with such an empowered woman is doomed before he knows it.

Women want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to be able to marry the man they are most attracted to, and if that doesn’t work, still be able to enjoy an independent and comfortable life of Ikea furniture and Starbucks without having to put up with a man’s reasonable demands to cook him dinner and make sure the children are taken care of.

To accomplish that task, she must spend thousands of hours studying a topic like law or international business relations and became an obedient office worker instead of learning how to obey her husband. And because of this desire, which is being fully supported by the government with free or subsidized education, usually in the form of interest-free loans, we are seeing the disappearance of the nuclear family along with high divorce rates and out-of-wedlock births where future degenerates of the state get to watch mommy get sexy matches on Tinder.

In this crooked game, women can’t lose

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Women win through this scheme because they are able to say no to their husbands without repercussions and the government wins because women are less dependent on men for their needs. These women then become dependent on the state and corporations, which can easily lead them to behaviors of their choice, such as not reproducing.

If you take the depopulation agenda to be accurate then it makes sense that you would want to train women to do anything but bond with men in a way that leads to reproduction. That is exactly what most Western governments have done, and it starts by essentially brainwashing women of the need to be free from their husbands by making them obsessed to earn money produced by central banks. Any country where the idea of female employment is seen as “common sense” is in the process of having their culture destroyed, if it hasn’t already been done.

But do women really get a good deal out of this? In order to survive, they must obtain resources from corporate employment, the government, or an individual man. They cannot exist in the world on their own.

The less a woman has to depend on a man’s resources, the less she will have trained herself on how to be a good wife and mother. She may still end up being a good wife and mother, but she been put on a path since her teenage years by the system to spend considerable amounts of time in corporate and victimhood training, not wife training. Therefore if you end up marrying a woman who places high value in her “empowered” job, and she refuses to quit that job when her presence is needed in the home, your misfortune comes not just from your mistake in choosing her, but in the fact that the government, through their education programs and directives, have ensured that very outcome. In effect, you’re being actively cucked by your own government.

Foreign women are not necessarily a fail-safe solution

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Even in Eastern Europe, it is very difficult to find a woman under the age of 25 in a big city who wants to soon be a stay-at-home mom, or at least a mom who places secondary importance in her career. The feminist ideas that have infected America first came to Eastern Europe in the form of Soviet communism, which—surprise—had the primary goal to destroy the family unit.

The fact that an Eastern European girl lives in the city while her parents remain in the village means that she has been seduced by the prospect of free education, city lights, and the ability to sleep around without consequences. It is unlikely that she will be able to provide you with the home life that you deserve above that of an American woman, especially since they both approach career and motherhood in a nearly identical way. Unless you start visiting villages or churches, you’ll end up disappointed.

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If you look at a map of fertility rates around the world, you can clearly see that countries with fertility under the replacement rate have fanatical programs about educating women. Doing so makes a woman’s most fertile period of her life go to waste so that she can spend 5-10 years getting an education in obedience, consumerism, and selfie-taking while developing a bullshit career that will not make her happier than having a family.

If I were king of a land and wanted to destroy a neighboring kingdom, I’d simply implant the idea of female education within their culture so that they’d simply die out within a few generations. In the meanwhile, have fun trying to find a good woman who believes in the most basic of family values. The government already got to her, and put ideas in her head which will make it very hard for you to experience the simple act of having a family. Sadly, besides finding a magical unicorn, I see no way for us to fix this problem for our generation.[culturewar]

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GoingSane
4 years ago

50% of the population essentially tricked into being wage slaves as if men ever wanted to sit in a cubicle, grow ulcers, and die of hyper-tension (it’s great ladies, you betcha!).
That same 50%, now wage earners no longer needing allowance from their husbands to run out and impulse buy into insurmountable debt (not to mention college debt as well).
Solidarity and serenity stolen from the home in favor of bastard children with little chance to develop a sense of familial identity or loyalty, deadbeat fathers who never mature into men or pass on how to be masculine to their sons creating future deadbeats, vengeful bitter divorcees (who won’t let dad even see kids) becoming eternal spiteful bitches blaming men for everything, instead of loving wives and nurturing mothers so that the concept of “homefront” is all but forgotten.
War between the sexes while promoting non-existent genders and “alt-lifestyles” to destroy any remaining scraps of traditional values.
Promise by the government to “fix” problems they intentionally created, continue to perpetuate the dependency for power through our own progeny, and the long-term goal comes to fruition, rinse and repeat.
What a wonderful world.

edcdbbb6
edcdbbb6
4 years ago
Reply to  GoingSane

One important factor that I never see get brought up in these articles is that having a large enough fraction of the women in a community mostly focused on the home and neighborhood completely transforms it. It’s not just about having a nice homelife. Women network and gossip a lot more easily than men and problems in the area get noticed and addressed sooner. Networks of moms form the community social backbone; everyone winds up knowing more people and socializing more. None of this happens if all the women are stressed out and time crunched from professional level jobs.

You used to be able to kick the kids out the door in the morning and not worry about it, because at any given moment they’d be vaguely under the supervision of some sane mother keeping an eye on the block, even just a stranger. Most neighborhoods are just glorified dormitories now, because there’s not an army of moms and grandparents looking things over and chit-chatting.

Aryanblindboy
Aryanblindboy
4 years ago
Reply to  edcdbbb6

Yes ed – here’s the sequence of western civilization: family, community, society, culture, civilization… family, then, one of the core pillars of civilization – destroy the traditional family along with other pillars [such as religion, fatherhood, education, justice systems…] and you take out a civilization. The “long march through the institutions” is complete – western civilization is now ‘compromised’ to the point of destruction – what’s the western man’s reaction? More specifically what reaction does western man have to ‘his’ women’s betrayal and abandonment for Pimp Daddy Big Gov’t over her own family?

Days of Broken Arrows
Days of Broken Arrows
4 years ago
Reply to  edcdbbb6

Great point.

George Kingfish Stevens
George Kingfish Stevens
4 years ago

Everybody makes great points here! It is all too true, and so our civilization and our race is dying…murdered by the World Vampire!

GRock
GRock
4 years ago
Reply to  GoingSane

Elitists goals: Take every single “minority” status (Includes anyone of color, and all women), and get them to war among themselves. Success!

GoingSane, as you pointed out, its the perpetuity of it all… that is now 1-2 generations in full cycle. The cunts from the 80s-90s who decided to quit “the team” of quality life relations between the sexes, now have kids in their 20-30s, even 40s who are doing the same.

Cunts you ask? What about the loser men? Let’s be realistic here. Whose incentivized? The same minorities – esp women as a whole – to quit the family team unit, and any other potentially societal valuable person, that fits in the minority group as defined by the US gov’t as well as taught in Business Diversity classes, or “ethics” courses in ALL colleges, NOT just liberal arts colleges.

It’s not about love, it’s not about sex, it’s 100% about dysfunction. Dysfunction is how I categorize things now, people especially (namely the ones who make themselves objectifiable, which includes 70-90% of all women for starters).

Two observations in last 12 hours of my life:
1) Good friend of mine whose married with kids on both sides (previous relationships) combined to make his household. “My 401k is up to about $400k.. not bad for my age, but my wife has literally NOTHING saved up.” << yea, case in point.

2) Walking through WalMart (of a all God forsaken shit holes): 2 middle-aged men passer-by ear hustle: "You know who told me how to change all my problems, my wife!" Other Guy:"Mine won't let me consider those changes unless she discovers them first." < Sovereignty > Wife > Kids > Job > Husband.. in that order, is the order of command over MOST adult married men’s lives.

Simon
Simon
4 years ago

Don’t forget also, women obtaining pointless qualifications from higher education makes it harder for their hypergamy to be satisfied, reducing the pool of men who they find attractive to the minority of high earning alphas – who for the main part, will prefer to take advantage of this and sleep around rather than commit.

Meanwhile, the betas are priced out of the market, and become increasingly thirsty, further reinforcing women’s entitlement complexes.

When a woman enters her epiphany years after failing to secure the commitment of an alpha in her 20s through sex, she has to settle for a beta provider, who she invariably becomes bored with and frivorces.

A perfect storm of society-destroying factors all stemming from women’s lib.

Shortest Straw
Shortest Straw
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

It’s the Great Filter in action.

ricksantos01
ricksantos01
3 years ago
Reply to  Shortest Straw

Please explain what you mean by teh Great filter. Not heard of that one?

Shortest Straw
Shortest Straw
3 years ago
Reply to  ricksantos01

Nearly every species that has ever lived on Earth has gone extinct. And it’s not that each species evolves into another; they evolve evolve evolve and then stop.

Martha, the last passenger pigeon, died without ever breeding, despite heroic attempts to get her to. In fact, attempts to preserve the population started much earlier but failed. The pigeons needed big flocks not for survival but breeding.

ShadowRising
ShadowRising
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Glad someone brought this up. You especially see this in the black American community to the extreme. Black women have more degrees than black men and probably have now earned more money than the men. So they say “I don’t need me no man” and they’ll rather never marry or have an out of wedlock kid with a Chris Brown type than settle for a guy they think is “below” them. I think white America is going through the same process but just a few decades delayed. Most people probably don’t know that the lowest fertility rate in America isn’t white women, it’s black women with a degree who have priced themselves out of the sexual marketplace.

Earl Henson
Earl Henson
4 years ago
Reply to  ShadowRising

A girl from Brazil was asked if her friend “married that American guy?”
She said ‘No she got a job in Brazil working for an American company and gets paid in US dollars. What does she need to get married for?”

John Richard
John Richard
4 years ago
Reply to  ShadowRising

They usually wind up marrying white men too.

Caroline Carlson
Caroline Carlson
4 years ago
Reply to  ShadowRising

Women never ” price themselves out of the sexual marketplace”. Choosing not to marry never impacts a woman’s ability to have sexual relationships. Try being a woman for a while. Sex is always available to us. Choosing not to marry doesn’t stop us from living fun and rewarding lives. That we chose not to marry and have kids is a positive choice for some. That we aren’t available to be your caretakers, maids and subservient dependents is only a disadvantage to men. Research has shown time and again that men benefit more from marriage and suffer in a variety of ways when single. Men are more likely to have a higher income when married longterm compared with men of identical education, they enjoy better health and are happier. Women enjoy no such advantages and actually research shows single women are happier and when widowed their health actually improves. Men suffer from lack of wives. Women do better and don’t ever experience being “priced out of the sexual marketplace”. It’s available to us in ways it isn’t to men.

123
123
4 years ago

Most of men here judge women they make sex before marriage and say lot of crap. All women are sluts and blah blah blah.
Not all men but a lot who are on this forum.
Thus according to everything they write here women should not have sex before marriage. Men have to wait. In this way their best girlfriend could be their hand and porno video. They are never happy and satisfied. If woman doesn’t make sex – she is bad. If she does -she is a slut.
Question what men who have such kind of thoughts can give to woman. Sex? Not the fact it will be a good sex.
LOL.

ShadowRising
ShadowRising
4 years ago

Sex is easily available to women, especially women with a low bar, but cheap sex isn’t what most women want. Not any decent woman I know of. There’s only a limited number of pretty boy prince charmings making 6 figures. I was specifically talking about black women as an example. Most of them want to get married, but having pursued education and career to the degree they have, they are left without mates that they feel are on their level. And don’t tell me for a minute that these women are happy. If a woman doesn’t yearn to have a family and children, that’s a broken woman not worth marrying in the first place.

I also take it you are probably in your 20s. Let’s see if you feel the same way when you’re 42 and single and all your friends are married off and spending most their time with family.

Anion
Anion
4 years ago

Utter balderdash.

“Choosing not to marry doesn’t stop us from living fun and rewarding lives?” Yes, that’s why so many women are so desperately unhappy–do you read, or talk to women older than 25?–and why so many are constantly glomming on to whatever ex-con loser will agree to touch their miserable asses and pay them a little attention once in a while. That’s why they are constantly participating in ever-more-degrading sexual escapades in an attempt to attract, get, or keep men; do you think sixteen-year-old girls are sending naked pictures of themselves to boys they barely know because they want to, or because it’s what they’re told they must do if they want a boyfriend?

Which leads into your next ridiculous fallacy, that women never experience being “priced out of the sexual marketplace.” Do you know any women? Are you actually a woman? I’m in my early forties, and I can tell you right now that no matter how young I look (which is at least ten years younger than my actual age), no matter how slim I stay and how carefully I do my hair and make-up and dress, I do not get the level of male attention now that I did twenty years ago when every head would turn. Part of this is because I am older; twenty-five-year-old men might find me attractive but they do not seriously consider me as a sexual or relationship partner (which suits me fine, since I’m very happily married) because I am too old. Not to mention, who in the world are the men still available to women in their late thirties and beyond? Divorced men with children, if they’re lucky. Or men who never married for a reason, men who don’t necessarily have a lot to offer, either. The good over-forty men still available–and there are some–are looking to marry women who can give them children, and like it or not, our ability to successfully do that diminishes quite a bit after age thirty-five. This isn’t sexism, it’s biological reality. A man looking to start a family would be crazy to start his search with forty-year-old women; we may see female celebrities pregnant at the age of forty-two or -three or -six, but what they don’t tell you is the number of rounds of IVF they went through, or the fertility drugs, or the extensive testing for birth defects (the odds of which ride exponentially after a woman’s thirty-fifth year).

You go ahead and find me a woman of, say, fifty, who has as much sexual power to attract men as a woman of twenty-two. Unless she’s a former supermodel, you’ll have to look long and hard, and even then, while she may be able to get a man in her bed, she’s going to have a hard time finding one who wants to stick around when they get out of bed.

Finally, I take real issue with your dismissive and gross reference to women like myself as a “caretaker, maid, and subservient dependent” of my husband. I am none of those things. What I am is an active half of the kind of true partnership that feminists only dream of, and have to attempt to browbeat and bully their husbands to get–all that “Trying to get him to do ‘his fair share'” nonsense isn’t part of my life. My husband does his fair share. He gets up every morning and goes out into the workplace to earn money to support his family. That is his “half” of the work necessary to have and successfully raise a family. My “half” is to keep the house he pays for clean; to cook all the meals for the family so he doesn’t have to do it or worry about it and so our children are well-fed with good, home-cooked food; iron his shirts so he doesn’t have to worry about it when he gets dressed in the morning and so he looks nice in the office; make and pack his lunches (and write notes to him every day to tell him how much he is loved and how lucky I consider myself, which isn’t my “job” but is something I truly feel every day); keep our home tidy so when he comes home he feels happy, safe, comfortable, and welcome; handle our money sensibly; keep our children clean and dressed and help them with their schoolwork (when applicable; he’s better at some subjects, so he helps with those) and social situations; make sure he doesn’t run out of things he needs or things our home needs (shampoo, razor blades, etc.) so he doesn’t have to worry about it or think about that, either. I handle the bills and car maintenance, including making sure the car is gassed up when he needs it; I run errands that need to be run (taking his suits to the cleaners etc.); I bake things for his company’s charity bake sales and, occasionally, for him to share with his co-workers, because I enjoy baking and I’m good at it. (I am also a writer, and make a good-but-sporadic income from it, but that’s work I was only able to start doing thanks to my husband freeing me from the drudgery of a nine-to-five job.)

The last few years he does the laundry, because he enjoys doing laundry, and he washes the dishes on weekends because he’s a wonderful man (and he enjoys washing dishes).

None of what I do is any more or less complex, tasking, or difficult than the work he does for a paycheck. He makes the money and I enable him to focus exclusively on that. We are two sides of a whole, and that whole is the work of having a home and family. How many marriages do you know that are as equal as mine, where there are no fights over whose turn it is to do the dishes or clean the bathroom, or who is more tired, where both parties feel equally respected and valued for what each brings to the party? My husband and I know that both of our work is equally important, because without one the other would suffer. I couldn’t–or don’t want to–do what he does, and he couldn’t–or doesn’t want to–do what I do. Our daughters have never come home to an empty house. They have never been shunted off to spend ten hours a day in some institutional day-care with strangers who don’t love them the way their parents do. They are happy, confident girls, who every day see their mother treated well and respected by a loving husband and their father treated well and respected by a loving wife. They see how important they are to both of us, that we’ve made sacrifices so they could grow up in their own home instead of spending all their time in group settings with “carers.” They see the children in their schools who don’t have fathers at home, and how they behave and feel; they see the children who don’t have mothers home with them all the time, and how they behave and feel.

All women used to have the opportunity for this kind of happiness, until feminists decided that my half of the partnership was stupid and boring and not worth anyone’s time, and started denigrating it and insulting the women who were happy doing it; just because they themselves were boring and unable to amuse themselves they assumed no other women could find intellectual stimulation when given a library and time to spend in it, or a community and a chance to make a difference in it. All of the “pro-woman” nonsense you’ve spilled above is really only you insulting women and the work we have traditionally done, and implying that there is something wrong with women who want to and enjoy doing it (which poll after poll shows is most of us, especially after we have children); it’s your fault children are fatherless and women are unhappy, and you’re not helping anything by telling outright lies like “women are never priced out of the sexual marketplace.”

Caroline Carlson
Caroline Carlson
4 years ago
Reply to  Anion

I’m glad you enjoy your choices and they feel fulfilling to you. I think we are of similar age. I am a very plain looking woman in my early forties and find I have every bit as much opportunity to find men and spend time with them as I ever had. The idea that I’ve been ” priced out of the sexual marketplace” is rediculous. Im sorry you are not turning every head like you used to. Since you claim to be in a monogamous marriage I’m wondering why you care. I’m not looking to turn every head. I’m not looking for attention from every man or to compete with other women in this regard. What I’m saying is that I have as much opportunity with men as I like. There is no lack of men in the world and I find myself not lacking for male attention. So the claims of these young men ,who are childish In their understanding in the actual experiences of women today, that women simply stop receiving male attention is rediculous. I don’t think your relationship or role is stupid or useless. I do think that the assertion that women are only suited to this role and are somehow destined for unhappiness if they don’t choose this role is stupid. I’m neither interesting in ,nor impressed by ,the assertions of misogynistis men about my role in society. I am laughing about their claims that women lose the attentions of men. I’m laughing because I know what my experiences and those of other single or non manogamous women are…..and that that men continue to express interest in them. Sorry but its not my fault that men abandone their children. Seriously? My remaining single means men cannot remain responsible for the children they create? You need to not have your existence as a woman threatened because other women chose other options and feel ok with that.

Anion
Anion
4 years ago

I didn’t say you don’t have opportunity to meet and attract men, I said you don’t have the same sexual power to get and keep a man that you had as a young woman, and you don’t. That’s fact, whether you like it or not, whether you’re happy with the men you attract or not, and whether you actually ever had much power to do so or not–the fact that you’ve noticed no drop-off doesn’t mean anything, since you may not have had an endless stream of suitors to begin with. (I notice you didn’t say whether these men are divorced with children, or what, since that was one of the points that I made–that the quality of available men/men without baggage is lower.)

I don’t care that I don’t turn every head anymore, and stated as much. It was merely an example. I still get noticed and I still get hit on, just not the way I did at twenty-three, which is completely normal and understandable.

And please, learn to understand what you say and stand by it. “I don’t think your relationship or role is stupid and useless?” Except you referred to me as a “caretaker, maid, and subservient dependent.” Are you not capable of understanding how dismissive and rude that was? Who feels threatened by whom here? I have not put down your role in the world; you have put down mine, and implied that I’m some wilting moron whose health and happiness are both poor. Why do you feel the need to insult other women like that? I think it’s great that you’re having fun meeting and having casual relationships with however many men. Good for you! I hope it continues. I’m glad you’re not lonely, and I hope you continue to be as fulfilled by your life as you are now. But you must realize that you’re not the norm for single women our age.

You are not responsible for the actions of men, no. But the party line you spew to young women, and young men, that marriage isn’t important, that single mothers are just dandy and there’s no need to make a commitment to the person with whom you’re having a child, is, in part. The fact that young women today are taught to expect nothing from the men they’re encouraged to share their bodies with is, in part. The fact that young women today are told that waking up alone, being treated like a toy, is the path to happiness is, in part. The fact that mothers, who in poll after poll overwhelmingly say they wish they could be home with their children more, in, in part. All of those are things you seem to be agreeing with, which means that you are part of the problem.

Go ahead and be happy and have fun. I don’t care what you do. But stop insulting me and other women who choose a different path, and who want and expect more from life than being separated from our children and stuck in a thankless job–and remember that some women have always chosen to stay single and have careers; it’s nothing special or revolutionary that feminism made possible. It’s a hamster wheel that feminism has forced on all women whether they wanted it or not.

Caroline Carlson
Caroline Carlson
4 years ago
Reply to  Anion

When I said care taker ,maid and subservient submissive I was directly quoting the comment by the idiot gentleman here who said that was all women were good at being. Not that that is what I perceived stay at home mothers to be. You clearly didn’t read the entire piece here. I stated it that way because that is what he said all women were suitable to be. You seem to be very opinionated about the experiences of single women despite being in a monagamous marriage. I actually disagree with your assertion that older women have a harder time with men. I am actually experiencing exactly the opposite. I feel as though I have a much better knowledge of myself, have a better time expressing my expectations and do a better job setting boundaries than I did when I was younger. I feel able to be more grounded and not worried about men’s expectations influencing my choices. I feel better able to engage with men who meet my needs better because I can more effectively communicate. I’m no longer sitting in a place where I let men define me or set the agenda. I feel as though dating as an older woman is a much better experience. I wasn’t insulting your choices. I was rejecting the idiots definition of the role of women. He said that was all women were good at and in exactly those words. He is the one who devalues your role. Re read this piece and the thread in the comments above. I didn’t refer to you at all. I don’t know you. Interesting with all the comments here by men saying your only role is a maid, caretaker and subservient submissive….you only object to the woman’s comments. 🤔 You seem to be fine with men categorizing you as such……I find that very interesting.

1audionote .
1audionote .
4 years ago
Reply to  Anion

Now thats the kind of woman that should be the role model for our future daughters….this woman obviously understands something that the feminists have tried to destroy. I’m getting married to a Ukrainian woman because she is exactly this way and she enjoys being a woman and being feminine for me and helping me……thank you Anion for giving a real account of what a strong woman really looks like!!!

Anion
Anion
4 years ago
Reply to  1audionote .

Thank you, kind sir! I appreciate that very much. Best wishes to you for a long and happy marriage!

basedkrn
3 years ago
Reply to  Anion

Just reading your description of your partnership and family life made me tear up a bit. Inspiring, and saddening as to where our world has come to. I’m in my mid-20s and hope to have something like that some day. Until then, I will be out here in the trenches of the city chasing skirts and shallow pleasures as I build my game up.

Anion
Anion
3 years ago
Reply to  basedkrn

Oh, thank you, friend! (And you having that response tells me that you’ll likely have no trouble finding a good woman to share your life with; only a truly good man would not only have it, but would be strong and kind enough to mention it–you’ve brightened my day!)

Lol, hey, if you can’t “chase skirts and shallow pleasures” (what an eloquent way to put it!) in your mid-twenties, when can you? 🙂 And when you’re ready and you find the right woman, I’m sure you’ll be a wonderful, strong, masculine husband who supports, cares for, and pleases his wife just like my husband does me–and who is then in return supported, cared for, and pleased by a wife who is thankful for him every day, as I do and am for my husband.

There are plenty of women out there who want a life like mine. It might take a little while to find one–though again, I doubt you’ll have much trouble–but they are out there, and I think their numbers are growing. (I’ve often thought I could make a mint starting a dating service for men who want traditional wives and women who want to be one.)

Have a great day! {{{hug}}} to you, sir!

basedkrn
3 years ago
Reply to  Anion

Come to think of it, I haven’t heard from a woman what that sort of life looks like. Most of my life the world, the media, and society seem to highlight the negatives.

Thank you for sharing what your life looks like. It has been added to my vision of the future. And thanks for your support. This is a great conversation.

123
123
4 years ago
Reply to  Anion

You are cool!!! Doesn’t matter how old we are. Woman always can be attractive. Real man will always appreciate his woman. Losers will complain, look for sex advantures after what will write articles about it because they don’t have what to offer. Happinness to you!!

BSM_08091213
BSM_08091213
3 years ago
Reply to  Anion

blah blah blah

Lucas Thomas
Lucas Thomas
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Exactly.

And they don’t realise til it’s way too late that a 35 year old high value man has no use beyond easy degrading sex for a 35 year old biologically over the hill career woman

John Richard
John Richard
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas Thomas

truth. so maybe they should go with guys that aren’t high value.

Caroline Carlson
Caroline Carlson
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas Thomas

Why would sex be degrading? Is sex with you really that bad? All the men on this site seem to think sex is a really disgusting act which results in some sort of psychic injury? Why are you Taliban like men who follow Roosh so sex negative?

vixen
vixen
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas Thomas

HHMM MAYBE ITS TIME WOMEN DEVALUE MEN….

sasha
sasha
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucas Thomas

sex is degrading women in the head of psychopaths

George Janeiro
George Janeiro
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

Excellent point. I’ve told many girls the higher they move up the corporate ladder the fewer attractive marriageable men they will find. But they refuse to listen, because they have been socialized by feminists to believe just the opposite. Or to believe that grad school, a corner office, a 6-figure salary, and a few pets is a great substitute for an attractive marriegeable man.

SUPRA luca
SUPRA luca
4 years ago
Reply to  George Janeiro

“Or to believe that grad school, a corner office, a 6-figure salary, and a few pets is a great substitute for an attractive marriegeable man.”
LMAO, pig please. I’m having a lot of fun reading the stupidity you peasants vomit around here. Hilarious! 😀

Isn’t that good enough? Even more when it comes to American women; you know how gross straight American men are, in general. Hairy, unattractive, stinky slobs. Ignorant, anti-intellectual, not even a single trace of charm and human warmth. Most won’t even wash their genitals properly or follow a skin care regime. Horrible in bed, most can’t even make women orgasm; in fact, most don’t even care and believe their own sexuality/pleasure is all that matters. Who would want this garbage? “Attractive marriageable man” in America is something way too rare. With a 6-figure salary and her own life as a single woman with female friends/relatives she will already be getting much more than she could ever get by being married in most of the cases.

• A 6-figure salary is the security they need, for themselves and their kids. They can buy food, home, health with that.
• Most men aren’t that good at emotional support. – Women bond with each other the best. Even when they actually have a husband they prefer talking to a friend or female relative. So they will never be alone and, in fact, will be having much more fun and happiness in their lives by spending more time with their female/gay relatives/friends than with one male.
• Women have sperm banks and adoption options. They can and will have children whenever they want them. “Pets” aren’t their only option, you dumb eunuch, haha.
• Women can’t feel sexually attracted for the same male for long (that is just nature telling them they shouldn’t be getting pregnant by the same male over and over again, they should seek that young adult, strong, healthy and beautiful male for the only good and worthy sperm), so her husband won’t even be good enough for sex anymore after a short time. – Women are better off with sex buddies/casual sex with the top tier attractive males, or they can buy sex if they are into gigolos or can’t find an attractive enough male to fuck anymore (most women can still find males to fuck just fine, though, at basically any age; American women will have to put up with American men’s sexual entitlement and lack of reciprocate/orgasm-indulging abilities, though, so I think they’re better off just buying sex with attentive, attractive gigolos.) We know more and more women are doing just that. Or heck, they can just go and buy a dildo/vibrator; they will be getting more pleasure/orgasms than the regular straight American male can give. Do your research about sexuality and the lack of female pleasure in America, boy.
• Many, many men leave their wives when they get ill. Most just aren’t good enough at nurturing. – Women are better off working so they will have the money to pay for someone to help them out if they ever need it. Or maybe she could rely on a good female relative/friend, once again;:women are the ones who take care of their loved one the most.

So what’s the deal? A romantic relationship with a man is worthless for women in the modern world (except for few civilized enough males, most just aren’t able and don’t want to connect, support, take care and satisfy their wives; most also can’t keep sexual attraction going on). Monogamic relationships aren’t even human nature – sub-males pushed for it so most of them could have an on-going sexual partner, whether the female wanted it not; they had to turn women into properties with no choices, agency, voice and freedom to support themselves to be able to accomplish it.

Women can’t rely on men in any way and they shouldn’t, for their own happiness. Not having a husband is better for a woman’s health and happiness, in general. That is why so many women feel happier after their long-time husbands die. Women definitely have better lives by being single than by getting married (even more when it comes to an American husband, yuck).
Women only still marry because it’s a lie and brainwash that society feeds to them since they are little girls; and you straight males can scream all you want and put on that “marriage sucks!” front on, but you are the ones who want women to feel obsessed with marriage the most. You guys have been joking about marriage being a prison since forever – even when women were being literally sold by their fathers to forcibly marry whatever male who bought them.
But the thing is, you want women to need you. You want women to obsess over being with you, to try everything they can to marry you; that way you feel wanted, needed, important. It was straight men who created faith tales. It was straight men who created marriage, and for their own good.
It’s all about female sexuality for you guys, you want them so much you feel powerless – so you try to make them powerless, you try to control their sexuality with lies, shame and even violence; you vilify their sexual freedom in every way possible. You want women to be submissive wimps so you can feel strong and worthy. Because YOU guys are wimps, weak and irrational animals who still act on instinct and emotions; that is why straight males spent the whole of the human history trying to dominate others (mostly women, because of your sexual attraction to them).

Fortunately most women wake up after marrying for the first time, nowadays; look at how much women seek divorce. Oh, and once again, also look at how much you little pseudo-men hate it that women want nothing to do with you anymore, haha! Nah, we all that know deep inside it’s not about “alimony” (you have prenup for that; alimony doesn’t occur that often as you guys love to cry anyway) or “child-support” that you care about. It’s that women don’t want you anymore. It’s that women are leaving you. No, we didn’t forget you straight males didn’t want women to be able to ask for divorce… that is all about control and trying to keep a woman for yourself… because YOU guys are the most pathetically emotionally dependent, insecure, weak shits ever.
They aren’t putting up with this bullshit anymore.

john karford
john karford
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

Great post.
I agree to most of what you said. Women will undoubtedly be more comfortable with 6 figures and the corner office etc.
But the problem is many women already have money and a great career but still end up CRAZY.

I believe women need men, they need to be dominated to feel completely satisfied. Just like men need to dominate. We need each other.

If a woman tells me I don’t need a man just my career etc I don’t want to be around her. I’ve seen those women and they have emotional problems.
Same with men who say I don’t need women, the full mgtow. Don’t be bitter because theres plenty of men who aren’t the slobs you described.
Better yourself and you’ll find the right man. Same goes for us.
Men and women need each other for emotional reasons. Cats and dogs and kids only go so far. .

IQbeauty
IQbeauty
4 years ago
Reply to  john karford

I agree. Men and women equally need each other. My best friend and I openly admit that life without a good man to cuddle up to at night ain’t life at all. I am so fortunate to be married and I am one of the few who strives to please her husband and children. Lots of home cooked meals from scratch and lots of time at the gym to keep the same figure I had before we got married and had kids. The point is, I love to please him because I love him and I need him. But, it took living in Europe for me to lose the feminism. But that was in the late 90’s. It sounds like European women have changed.

MZT
MZT
4 years ago
Reply to  john karford

“Great post”…..are you joking? How could you even get past the first paragraph with out “vomiting”…to use one of her own repulsive phrases. The hate just oozes out of this female thing like pus from an infected wound. This is clearly a pathetic human being who hates men and everything about them…a troll in the classic sense of the word who is of such an ugly personality that it would be impossible to have a normal conversation with her.

Sure, we all know that men and women are growing further and further apart in the west, but if the feminists we are dealing with are anything remotely like her, its no wonder, because she is absolutely and thoroughly repulsive, in every sense of the word.

BAT 21
BAT 21
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

Take a look at all the fem-natzi’s in the colleges and female social justice hacks and rape warriers with their anti-rape permission slips. You think any halfway normal dude would want these female trolls!!!??? Most of these pseudo men hipsters follow these women around waiting for a scrap!! Women like you deal with these beta males who have been castrated by the media and the so called women in the colleges!!!

Caroline Carlson
Caroline Carlson
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

Amen❤️ Everything you just said.

Xplodae
Xplodae
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

There may be some truth in what you’ve said, there’s also a lot of bitterness mixed in tempering it toward what I might call a somewhat hopeless and even vengeful conclusion.

Men could say a lot of the same things you know. Technically we need only rely on our own two hands (for work and for pleasure). Even reproduction without a partner is soon within the grasp of men (see ‘artificial womb’), cloning is already real, genetic manipulation too. There’s also the fact that with the implementation of universal basic income, which is already starting to happen in some countries, men will have no reason to become sperm ‘donors’ (which, actually, most do for the money, but to be fair some do it out of the goodness of their hearts).

A note on the negative stuff: Men in the past have seen plenty of negative sides to real human relationships with women too. The successful ones, the ones who passed on their genes, got over it. What does that say about them?

You’re describing a world in which an individual of a particular sex has no need or want for the opposite, and chooses material things over building lasting, quality human relationships with a sexual and reproductive component. That would take away the one thing that makes us human. That challenge. That authentic experience whereby we are taught that our right ideas are not necessarily the only right ideas, and that we have to learn to live with others. You take that away and down the track you end up with individuals who are so far up their own asses that they can’t see the light. There’s no balance in that equation.

What you would eschew in such a suggestion is not a disadvantage at all, it’s an opportunity to learn and master the human experience. To sacrifice and gain more understanding. To sacrifice that opportunity is to become weaker. You would not reach your full potential as a person that way, man or woman.

George Janeiro
George Janeiro
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

Bachelors and bachelorettes for life? Yes, please

Samseau
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

You’re a dumb whore who doesn’t know her history. Women were routinely captured, raped, and enslaved by evil men, so they got protection for themselves and their children by offering marriage to good men.

In today’s soft world where women take it for granted they won’t be captured and enslaved by men, who are superior to women in almost every way by birthright, they divorce men and live the single slut-life without repercussions.

But you’re living on borrowed time. This world was created by your mothers who understood why it was important to keep men attached to their women and make things safe for them. As Western nations depopulate and go broke, there won’t be police to protect dumb sluts like yourself, and women will once again be at the mercy of men, just as Nature intended it.

Earl Henson
Earl Henson
4 years ago
Reply to  George Janeiro

“it’s ONLY lonely at the top if you’re alone and that is a choice you make.”

Caroline Carlson
Caroline Carlson
4 years ago
Reply to  George Janeiro

Or maybe we don’t care. Maybe looking for your hand in marriage isn’t as big a treat for women as you think it is. Men benifit way more from marriage than women do. So maybe it’s just that men aren’t that good of a deal when you have them full time and we are content with having more causual relationships with you. You guys aren’t that big of a prize much of the time.

George Janeiro
George Janeiro
4 years ago

Bachelors and bachelorettes for life? Fine by me.

sasha
sasha
4 years ago
Reply to  George Janeiro

well if that was true that would just have to change. If a mans love depends on your ignorance and lack of power, it is of no worth.

George Janeiro
George Janeiro
4 years ago
Reply to  sasha

Straw(wo)man argument. By all means get all the Ivy League degrees and 6-figure corner offices you want. Just don’t expect any of that to move you even one iota closer to the “love” of the men you deem desirable.

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

For some women, strapping on a degree looks just as good as strapping on a strap-on, and for the same reason …

sasha
sasha
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

always funny to see a psychopath advocating for women to not be educated so they will be easier to get for loosers.

vixen
vixen
4 years ago
Reply to  Simon

so what if a woman decides to have a job over being a housewife? whats wrong with that? god, women should have equal rights as men AND what if a woman doesnt want to depend on her husband for money that’s good, why the fuck should she? what if hell goes down an divorce is needed but she cant do anything cuz she doesn’t have a job? she shouldn’t be forced to stay with him cuz shes dependent on him an all the while shes being beaten or talked down to because shes not “equal”

Hubert Cumberdale
Hubert Cumberdale
4 years ago

These women would rather focus on their careers until they are too old to have children when they actually want to (like 48). So then they turn to cat collection, which devolves over the ensuing decades into a total disaster.

Want a free cat with that house visit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZn0-hZCfU

spike
spike
4 years ago

Haaha classic simp

sasha
sasha
4 years ago

bah, its now possible to frooze eggs anyway if you really want.
Plus the thing is that it should not be exclusive. A man can weel stay home himself with the kids, so the woman can take her much overdue place.
That or you know, share half of the kids rearing, like a non cheapo

flyingsquirrel
flyingsquirrel
4 years ago

i made an account with disqus because i’m curious about something: do you guys who post here believe that this person calling himself roosh v is an actual ladies’ man? has anybody ever talked to any of the hundreds of women who he claims to have slept with? because men who are actually successful with women don’t tend to spend their time whining about women on the internet.

now roosh v may indeed be an exception to this. he does seem like an exceptional individual. but if you follow his example, you’re likely to end up cranky and alone on a barstool, complaining to nobody in particular about things that are out of your control. which is no way to go through life.

so i really am curious — do you all really believe that roosh v is an international playboy, albeit one who, for some reason, feels the need to run down women in general on the internet? do you think he exaggerates stories? or is it generally accepted that “roosh v” is a character, and a vehicle for certain fantasies? or ed anger-type social satire?

Mano
Mano
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

He’s got a 5-6 photos with girls and that’s all.

Considering his reputation as an rape advocate, it is a miracle that not even one girl has come forward with a false rape accusation. Roosh is natural beta with high verbal intelligence who tries to talk himself into being an alpha. That’s all.

Having said that his sites are quite useful to a lot of men and much better than the official narrative. So he’s a good man in general.

Shmalkandik
Shmalkandik
4 years ago
Reply to  Mano

To what extent are you suggesting that Alpha and Beta roles are permanently wired in the human brain, like biological sex differences?

James
James
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

As a Paleo-MGTOW my self, I’m not in to Roosh’s ladies’ man stuff. What I appreciate is the depth of the insight into the situation the world is in. Roosh V is a student of human existence, not just a Pick Up Artist. The world is going to hell in a hypersonic hand basket and Roosh V helps all us guys see things for what they are. This would be true even if the truth was Roosh V was a virgin, or something.

spicynujac
spicynujac
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

The readership here is majority male. We are not particularly interested in anyone’s personal life, drama, relationships, etc. To quote a wise woman “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.”

Furthermore, the advice given generally tests out to be extremely accurate for me, and it works, so I follow it. It’s really as simple as that.

flyingsquirrel
flyingsquirrel
4 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

but he’s not some impersonal essayist. he’s made autobiography a central part of his writing — not just his accounts of his international sex tourism, but many of his other posts as well. he is his subject. i believe this is also true when he writes his pieces about women, all of which read to me like embittered responses to some deep personal injury.

either that, or plain old satire.

now he could just be a guy who enjoys stirring the pot. but since the life advice that he dispenses is predicated on his past success with — or at least knowledge of — women, i’d think his readers would want to make sure he is who he says he is.

he’s a smart person and a fun writer to read. but whenever he writes about sex, he sounds like a horny, slangy, inexperienced (and frustrated) seventh grader. when he writes his sweeping generalities about women, he sounds like a guy who has never had a serious relationship with a woman in his life — and who is determined to make sure his readers never have one, either.

you probably have a very different take on his writing and his motivations. anyway, i thank you, and others, for answering. i was really curious.

spicynujac
spicynujac
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

Citation needed.

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

Yes, to answer your question, Roosh is the real deal. He doesn’t toot his own horn as others do, which should be one of the first indicators of authenticity.

I’ve met him, also.

flyingsquirrel
flyingsquirrel
4 years ago
Reply to  GetItGoing

but i wasn’t wondering if any of you had met roosh v himself, or whether he seemed like a smooth operator when you did. i figured many of you *had* met him. i wondered if anybody had met or heard from any of the hundreds of women he claims he’s slept with. but i’m getting the sense that the perspective of those women — if they exist — is totally immaterial to the community here, which is interesting. at least to me.

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

Yes I know you didn’t ask, but it’s relevant.

Meeting a man in person vs. what they may or may not portray themselves as in media is very different.

In this case, his personality backed up what he writes and speaks about, as well as his demeanor and general good will, too.

If you have doubts about him then you definitely haven’t watched many videos or read much of his material. It takes some real experience to write that kind of insight.

Shmalkandik
Shmalkandik
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

His actual experience is not epistemologically important. He advances a a strong conjecture, which makes it all the easier to test. To the extent that the testing result is not inconsistent with his conjecture, it stands as knowledge. To talk about his personal in this context is just ad hominum fallacy.

sasha
sasha
4 years ago
Reply to  spicynujac

wont work to make you find love or respect fella, and especially not to find a clever woman. Just sayin

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

I could not actually give a flying toss …

If it is fiction, it’s an amazingly long run of fiction, and as such should be considered a commendable effort.

I see no way in which Roosh would lose if this were the case.

SomeRandomFellow
SomeRandomFellow
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

I have seen Roosh approach women in person.

He knows his shit.

And no, it’s not fantasies or persona. He really traveled the world, banged chicks, so the shit that is happening and writes about it.

Also, being successful with women does not stop you from being concerned about the fate of civilization.

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
4 years ago

Exactly. If anything, his writing has come about because of his many experiences.

I remember seeing him approach a woman in NYC but unfortunately some guy was uncomfortably tagging along like a lost puppy and blew the whole thing.

Feminist
Feminist
4 years ago

If he were concerned with the fate of civilization then he wouldn’t be advocating for rape. Men who rape are barbarians and not very civilized . . .

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  Feminist

Oh, shut up.

sasha
sasha
4 years ago

its funny that the bunch of machos on here consider it so hard to sleep with a girl that they revere a man for being able to have sex with some. That says a lot about you.

Shortest Straw
Shortest Straw
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

There are a lot of different angles to this. One is that most “playboys” burn out; when they achieve a certain level of success, they stop playing the game as it’s not much fun to play a game you have mastered. That said, I have little idea how good Roosh is or isn’t.

The one clue I would have is that his general demeanor is one of calm and smoothness, and most women prefer that to fidgety whining.

That said, I’m mostly in it for the social and political commentary, as I note that Roosh was among the first to identify some of the most dramatic forces affecting the evolution, or devolution, of Western society.

Morrison
Morrison
4 years ago
Reply to  Shortest Straw

” as I note that Roosh was among the first to identify some of the most dramatic forces affecting the evolution, or devolution, of Western society.”

This is what I also noticed about Roosh many years ago which put him way above any “get laid guru” .

sasha
sasha
4 years ago
Reply to  Shortest Straw

oh no, simple minds that blame all evils on women not being dominate enough for the males pleasure is probably the least original and ‘first’ political commentary you can make.

Many clever men have fallen in this immoral trap, showing only their depravation and shameful taste for exploitation. This shows some level of verbal cleverness does not shield one from psychopathy

Shortest Straw
Shortest Straw
4 years ago
Reply to  sasha

your mind is gone.
go home and watch youtube videos.

ShadowRising
ShadowRising
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

I’ve wondered this myself. But people can can often be very different in real life from their online persona. Who knows, maybe Roosh is happy go lucky when he’s at the bar picking up women, but yeah, online he comes across as a sullen misanthrope and a doomsayer. I read his articles mainly because he always has something interesting to say even if I don’t always agree. But he does not come across as a happy guy in his online presence. I’m assuming he tones the negativity down in real life when he’s around women.

GetItGoing
GetItGoing
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

He’s a pretty straight up guy. He didn’t make it onto Ukrainian TV for nothing.

Days of Broken Arrows
Days of Broken Arrows
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

“because men who are actually successful with women don’t tend to spend their time whining about women on the internet.”

Says who? You’re making a statement with no factual basis. That said, women who run dating blogs and complain about men the most tend to go on a lot of dates. When you see more, there is more to complain about. So, a PUA complaining about women makes total sense — much like a computer programmer who runs a blog critiquing software or a music nut who becomes a snarky critic or a movie fanatic who invents the Golden Raspberry Awards.

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

Ad hominem. Who gives a shit? Next. Stop trying to change the discussion.

Naruto Chen
Naruto Chen
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

Men will get further in life if they do not take advice from a woman.

Jack Redrum
Jack Redrum
4 years ago
Reply to  flyingsquirrel

If Roosh V never spent a day approaching in his life, there is no way his advice about daytime approaching (which scares the bejesus out of most men) could be so spot on. Having approached hundreds of women so far I can attest to the accuracy of his observations and the efficacy of his methods. His description of behavior which turns on (and repels) women conforms very well to my real life experiences. Perhaps you should try doing some approaches yourself, if you’re not too busy being a male feminist/feminist/homosexual keyboard jockey.

Hoyos
Hoyos
4 years ago

A mild defense of these women…

In EE women aren’t propagandized into believing that men are unreliable, it’s a lot more likely to be a fact. If you think the economy is bad in the US or the UK, EE is generally screwed up beyond belief.

As a general rule, unless they are extraordinarily religious or thoughtful, men in these countries respond to the rough hand they’ve been dealt with, “Screw it; why not get drunk?” We joke about alcoholism and drug use but nobody on earth gets hammered like a Russian who doesn’t care if he dies.

You can’t blame a woman who wants to make sure she’s okay if a relationship goes south under these circumstances. The symptoms are similar but the disease is really different.

Ahmed Bodhi
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

I agree. It’s not the fault of the women and I would say it’s even the fault of the education-system. It is actually INCIDENTALLY the fault of the news and entertainment–the owners who are the illuminati–which purposefully/incidentally uses yellow journalism, fear, pity, and various tactics to portray straight love as an impossible affair… e.g. 2 1/2 men.

This most likely is incidental because these dramatic shows are more interesting.

Lunostrelki
Lunostrelki
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

After WW2, the Soviet government actively promoted alcohol production to prop up their failing planned economy. So government at least partially to blame for EE men being generally unreliable drunks.

Oops, I did it again
Oops, I did it again
4 years ago
Reply to  Lunostrelki

Yeah, that’s yet another short-sighted solution that the old guard politicians toss as the people to placate the masses for a time, giving them a bit more time to loot the public coffers. Trouble is that all these band-aid solutions create bigger problems five fold worse than the one they tried to fix in the first place.

I blame the guberment for everything nowadays. It makes me feel better, albeit only for a short time, until, being a man, I snap back to reality that I have to solve my own problems and pay my own bills.

Oh what fun it is to be a privileged white male in this wonderful world we live in.

Hoyos
Hoyos
4 years ago
Reply to  Lunostrelki

And I blame the government entirely for the economy. It is one of the chief duties of government to have an honest and efficient judicial system (no more corrupt business shenanigans) combined with leaving people alone to make their own economic decisions (see Hong Kong back in the colonial period). One of the reasons you don’t see as much economic activity in EE (although it has gotten a LOT better) still stems from the days where a fellow would build a business and some goons (possibly police) would basically just take it.

Why build anything after that?

Shmalkandik
Shmalkandik
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

Performance across the EE has been uneven. The Poles are doing well, have stable governments, and a viable legal system. Other EE countries, not so much.

fd
fd
4 years ago
Reply to  Shmalkandik

Poland was the ‘model’ artifically propped up with enormous EU subsidy. It’s location to Germany (massive recipient of off-shoring), massive emigration (giving remittances back to Poland), conservative ignorance (no unions or social services), made it better than its neighbors.
Even so, the average standard of living isn’t much higher than Belarus, which kept is command economy and is surrounded by hostile elites.

Shmalkandik
Shmalkandik
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

Yes, “drink is the great joy of the Russ”, and has been so for centuries. The pride of the Russ has ever been, as Tolstoi put it, “they believe nothing, they know nothing, since they do not believe anything can be known”. With that attitude, alcohol is the sensible alternative.

Morrison
Morrison
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

“As a general rule, unless they are extraordinarily religious or thoughtful, men in these countries respond to the rough hand they’ve been dealt with”

Exactly. Under those circumstances it comes as no surprise that the average Ruski searches for a bottle of booze to crawl into.

Untergang07
Untergang07
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

I understand what you are saying, and it becomes a self-reinforcing positive feedback loop where if men are unreliable – women pursue careers as a result, they in turn become unsuitable as wives and mothers to any man pursuing such things, thence if my wife is a whore and economy sucks why not get drunk and so on and so on…

clockworkelves
clockworkelves
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

The article is about the government, not women. I believe he is saying the government creates an environment such that women take the path of least resistance towards marrying the state.

The power of propaganda diminishes once it’s intent is revealed. Would women still do what they do now once they learn about the goals of elite propaganda?

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  clockworkelves

The government becomes the “husband of last resort”, being seen as a better Beta Provider than the actual Beta males who would otherwise suffice …

Eliminate the behaviour by eliminating the support.

In some countries, it should be a moral obligation to avoid taxation in order to prevent the state’s coffers from being filled to the brim for such support …

clockworkelves
clockworkelves
4 years ago
Reply to  Jones

The government has most of the guns.

DeCode
DeCode
4 years ago
Reply to  Hoyos

He never said it was the fault of the women. He made it explicitly clear that the government was enabling and training these women to not value a long term, traditional relationship.

jz95
jz95
4 years ago

Roosh, let’s face it. Europe is dead. This is probably not going to be a popular post, but I think we need to point out the elephant in the room.
European women (and men, for that matter) have embraced feminism more so than just about any other race, with the exception of perhaps African American women. As you have pointed out in previous articles, western Europe is dead, and it looks like Eastern Europe is on the road to decline as well. Eastern Europe, contrary to popular belief, is not the great white hope. As you have pointed out, they are not promoting natalism for the most part, and in Russia, the only country that is promoting it, the only ones reproducing are Russian Muslims. I don’t realistically see Europe getting out of this.
Maybe it’s time to give up on European women, Roosh. It looks like they’re already lost, and the men don’t seem to notice or care. I know you’re set on mating with a woman with a similar skin tone to yours, so look into Iranian and Armenian women. Hell, look into certain parts of South America. But I think it’s time to close the book on Europe.

Omar
Omar
4 years ago
Reply to  jz95

But he is not denying that in his article

Morrison
Morrison
4 years ago
Reply to  jz95

“But I think it’s time to close the book on Europe”

Suposedly France might decide they have had enough and fight back (Iwas told this but I’m very skeptical) and there may be mitigating circumstances in other parts of europe. But indeed natalism IS important because even if all muzzies stopped raping and commiting crimes, the demographics are already changing.

jz95
jz95
4 years ago
Reply to  Morrison

Certain parts of Europe might survive a bit longer. I can’t see the Irish going down without a fight, and I’ve heard promising things from Italy. But most of western Europe will be unrecognizable within fifty years. And Eastern Europe better get its shit together and start promoting natalism, but the likelihood of that doesn’t seem promising. It looks like they’re starting to buy into feminism.

SUPRA luca
SUPRA luca
4 years ago
Reply to  Morrison

Rape, a crime?! You are one of the Roosh’s little boys, come on now. He already said rape “is okay”.

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

2+2=5

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

you obviously cant spot satire

Oops, I did it again
Oops, I did it again
4 years ago

Women drank the Kool-Aid of empowerment. Tasty, isn’t it ladies. You probably like grape flavor. Yummy!

Here’s a huge difference between men an women working; men will work selflessly for the support and betterment of his wife and family. A man will make sacrifices for his wife and kids from noble motives. On the other hand, women work selfishly for themselves first, with the support of her husband and family only secondary motivations to her own shopping sprees.

Unless a woman is a professional model or school teacher, I’m really not interested in hearing about her empowering career and don’t consider her for anything more than a cheap bang. I’ve yet to have even one so-called empowered career woman offer to buy me as much as a drink while expecting to pick my pocket and provide them an entertainment expense account.

A woman thinks she’ll be able to use her empowered lifestyle as a big stick with which to beat a “bad” man if he displeases her, which is guaranteed to happen. Rather, she should realize that while woman fought for empowerment, she forgot her real value is her beauty followed by her ability to care for a husband and children and maintain a household as a support to her husband. Men discovered they could use woman’s empowered and entitled attitudes to get free pussy that in the past used to be reserved for the “right one.”

Power to women! Have another sip of Kool-Aid.

Jones
Jones
4 years ago

I have had that free drink, but I chose a risky path: I fucked one of the company directors, and at the time she had more money than I did.

I wouldn’t do it again though.

Oops, I did it again
Oops, I did it again
4 years ago
Reply to  Jones

That was playing with fire. Hope you didn’t get burned. Yeah, good thinking. You can rinse, but don’t repeat. lol

If you want to fuck your female superior, take her job and her empowerment away from her. Then, and only then, should you pity fuck her, assuming you’re not now her superior.

Nestor
Nestor
4 years ago

The environment of women empowerment is an artificial and unnatural environment maintained by continuous funding and by the laws.
Continuous funding as in funding movies, songs, television, radio, newspapers, magazines, universities, institutes, NGOs etc.
Laws as in constitutions, human rights, woman rights, worker rights, marriage laws, democracy, elections etc.

SUPRA luca
SUPRA luca
4 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA! That dude knows shit about biology and human nature. That’s embarrassing. I bet he’s American, he’s way too ignorant.

The value of females, any female of any specie, is that she is able to reproduce and take care of the offspring. Most species aren’t monogamous; humans aren’t monogamous as well. Monogamy was created by human males when human societies developed so basically most males would be able to have an ongoing sexual partner, whether the female wanted it or not; males had to make women their properties for it to happen, it was never free will, it’s not natural for women human females to bond forever with one male. Heck, even females of species that bond for life will “cheat” on their mates as they get older – females always want young, healthy sperm from strong young adult males, and only that.

All females are valuable for that, procreation and caring for their offspring. In fact, they are the most valuable members of any species – as long as she is still able to get pregnant, she is even more valuable than children; after she can still get pregnant after her offspring dies, while for her offspring to survive without her it would be harder.
Males have two valuable traits: protecting their group and donating sperm. Only a smaller group of males are worthy of reproducing (read: attractive enough, strong and healthy young adults – females can’t and won’t try their luck with older sperm, even when they are older females themselves), though. Those males are the most valuable and the only ones females will ever try to copulate with. That also proves only that beauty is only valuable in males – females choose the best males mostly by visual signs. They have to choose wisely as they aren’t fertile everyday and should never waste a fertile egg or risk genetically inferior offspring, while males don’t have to worry as they are fertile everyday and aren’t the ones who get pregnant. Females choose, males accept.
The less valuable males (older, not as healthy, strong and beautiful as the top tier males) are there mostly to keep the group strong/big enough to appear “powerful” for outside danger… and they are also the first ones to die for the females, the children and the genetically valuable males.

Try to lie to yourself as much as you want, it won’t change the facts. Male’s beauty is the most important. “Regular” males are the ones who are meant to support females, children and the more valuable males, to the point of dying for them, dying just so a younger, stronger and healthier male could pass on his superior genes.

MZT
MZT
4 years ago
Reply to  SUPRA luca

What rile of rubbish…you actually believe your own feminist hate propaganda. In fact females need and desire male financial support for the raising of their children more than anything else, and secondarily they seek the societal status that being with a powerful man brings them. Its always been this way and it still is. The richer and more powerful the man, the more likely he is to have many many options, regardless of his age and “beauty.” The wealthy man chooses, and the selected female accepts, for the betterment of herself and her offspring. On the other hand female power and wealth holds very little attraction for men. And no, not all females are valuable for their mating abilities…many, like yourself, based on your comments here, are too disgusting to consider ever having a relationship and children with. You actually have the whole situation ass backwards fool…but then that’s no surprise since you are such an obvious ass.

I Art Laughing
I Art Laughing
4 years ago

Ware be d wite wimmiinz?

Roger Daily
Roger Daily
4 years ago

I love robbing wives

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  Roger Daily

I like free sluts and I cannot lie
You cuckolded muthafuckkas can’t deny
When I get up in yo face and steal yo bitch
You get scorned

🙂

Roger Daily
Roger Daily
4 years ago
Reply to  Jones

Yeah I used to feel bad for them, but I should be feeling bad for their poor choice of wives more than for my vice. I suspect a return to traditional values, leading to the active policing of women’s sexuality, would help matters.

SUPRA luca
SUPRA luca
4 years ago
Reply to  Roger Daily

Because you straight males haven’t always actively cheated on your wives since forever.
Because you guys aren’t doing it right now and still more than women.

Illogical, hypocritical eunuchs, AHAHAHAHA!

SomeRandomFellow
SomeRandomFellow
4 years ago
Reply to  Roger Daily

Full force r-selected degeneracy.

Welcome to the Jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg

Roger Daily
Roger Daily
4 years ago

I have been accused of such things in the past. I assume you have similar hobbies.

SomeRandomFellow
SomeRandomFellow
4 years ago
Reply to  Roger Daily

How did you know ? :0

Morrison
Morrison
4 years ago

Yet another fuckin’ pick-me-up article, Roosh. But I’m afraid you are correct in your assertion. Everything has been reduced to hookup culture now. That concept is an easy thing to accept when a man is young, but when he gets old and dumping his load is no longer needed, somehow the idea of having children means something.

Aryanblindboy
Aryanblindboy
4 years ago

Pimp Daddy Big Gov’t whoring out the female population of a nation… been happening since females started negotiated pussy ~ nothing new with females selling themselves or being sold to the highest bidder.

Nestor
Nestor
4 years ago

“The government already got to her, and put ideas in her head which will
make it very hard for you to experience the simple act of having a
family. Sadly, besides finding a magical unicorn, I see no way for us to
fix this problem for our generation.”

Fixing the problem can be done only by destroying the two main pillars that are perpetuating this problem:
1) the constitutions and laws,
2) fake money, that is debt certificates.

Otherwise, writing articles talking about the existence of this problem will help in nothing. After all, this generation will suffer from this problem and if the problem persists there will be no next generation.

Nestor
Nestor
4 years ago
Reply to  Nestor

In this context, it is evident that you are at a crossroad, Daryush.

KickSider
KickSider
4 years ago

i’m the only one who does fell in love only with smart girl? (not degree, but somehow reads books) and play guitare and know foreign language? not just dumb who don’t understand what i talk about or my view, just watch soap and drama movies?

SomeRandomFellow
SomeRandomFellow
4 years ago
Reply to  KickSider

Yes. We motly rile against women who get educated in marxism in colleges.

Women who read literature, know foreign languages, love to cook, i.e actually smart women, not liberal degree whores are a treasure.

I had a girlfriend like that and she was the sweetest thing I knew.

KickSider
KickSider
4 years ago

Thanks! i was thinking same thing, i’m in love with girl who play guitare, and sometimes i’m douchbag with her without a reason and she never argue or something she just try to find solution , and yeah she never talks about career etc
and she’s sweetest too lol

123
123
4 years ago

So i am a treasure…

happiernow
happiernow
4 years ago

Ha ha ha ha! This is hilarious! Please tell me this is brilliant satire. This cannot be a real article.

SUPRA luca
SUPRA luca
4 years ago
Reply to  happiernow

That is in fact how the regular straight American male thinks.
Aren’t them garbage and the worst 1st world (pseudo) men? AHAHAHAHAHA!

Jones
Jones
4 years ago

“… I’ve focused on living in cities …”

WELL THERE’S YOUR PROBLEM! 🙂

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to adapt your tactics so they work in smaller cities and towns.

Let’s arbitrarily choose a city size as a top limit: no place larger than Oxford.
(Oxford population: roughly 150k.)

Instead of getting the bang, the immediate priority would be to sort out the unreliable careerist sluts and then to categorise the women who are left into various levels of suitability toward being a mother as well as being your main squeeze.

This should not be incompatible with Black Dragon’s idea that “open long term relationships” are the best working model.

The problem with the Bang series is that it needs a new frontier.

Here’s a new frontier for you — have fun.

jz95
jz95
4 years ago
Reply to  Jones

It’s only a matter of time before those small towns and villages are westernized. It’s time to close the book on Europe, and on western civilization in general. This battle cannot be won.

Little Bo Peep
Little Bo Peep
4 years ago
Reply to  jz95

I assume that, directly after typing this message, you picked up a cleaver and hacked your cock off. No?

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  jz95

One bit of advice on the small towns and villages: stay away from the ones where there are enough people “at risk” or who are old age pensioners that draw state support.

The reason for this is that “places in need” attract would-be social justice warriors, many of which are younger women, who believe that despite the shitty things that some of these people have done to themselves that they’ll make everything right and “save” some of them. They’ll pack feminism, cultural Marxism, and all of the trappings of “baby socialism” in the suitcases they bring with them, and they will proceed to start fucking up everything.

Instead, look more toward resort and semi-resort towns, even somewhat faded ones, for places where this will work.

I see a relationship with a barista babe from a back-country resort town as more stable than one with a City investment banker babe, for instance — I’ve tried both, and the smell of coffee is better than the smell of bullshit …

Mavwreck
Mavwreck
4 years ago
Reply to  Jones

Game depends to some degree on anonymity:

1. Women are less interested in casual sex if there are negative consequences. In a small community, news of her escapades will make the rounds, and she’ll suffer some social penalty.
2. An obvious player can scare off a woman. In that small community a man will find it harder to be play the game without getting noticed.

In a large city, it’s easier for a player to fly under the radar. Women can also self-select their social circles – if they want to avoid people who would disapprove, they can easily find new friends.

There are components to game that work in LTRs and marriages, but Roosh started off focusing on the player lifestyle. I think he wants to find something deeper, but he feels women can’t play that part any more.

I’d compare him to an investor who didn’t re-balance his portfolio before retirement. Now, he may not have known he’d want to retire this soon, but the day is here, and he’s stuck with lots of stocks in a down market. He’d normally have two choices: cash in and take the hit, or delay his retirement while hoping the market improves.

I think Roosh is trying to delay his “retirement”, but he’s also trying to move the market by himself. It’s a monumental task – if it’s even possible.

PS – I don’t think “open long term relationships” work in the very long term – either into old age or once you have kids.

Little Bo Peep
Little Bo Peep
4 years ago
Reply to  Mavwreck

“… Roosh started off focusing on the player lifestyle. I think he wants to find something deeper, but he feels women can’t play that part any more.”

I think it’s more like he finally realized, “Oh, this thing ‘twixt me legs is for making babies?! I thought ’twas just there for fun!”

There comes a time in every man’s life where he realizes merely “banging” girls is just a game for pubescent boys still in high school, and it becomes harder and harder as you get older to call yourself an Alpha if you are, in fact, still a reproductive failure at the shallow end of natural selection.

just a human
just a human
4 years ago

I am eastern european. I can say that,at this point ,starting family is very unpopular thing here. Mostly because finansial reasons. People-both – man and women,don’t want to enslave themselves in two or three jobs to get enough money to live just a normal life. Salaries are very low,after 26 years from soviet collapse. And many local women actually want a family,but they are afraid of living poor,hard life without a comfort,and they choose career…ain’t nothing do about it.

Cecil J
Cecil J
4 years ago
Reply to  just a human

Do you think Putin is a Zionist globalist banker asset/Freemason?

Steve H
Steve H
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil J

Zionists created and control world wide Kratom production.

just a human
just a human
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil J

In allmost all post-soviet countries ex KGB agents are in government or close to government. Generally-they are not good persons. Let’s say-legalized bandits. They have no rules,no morals,and they never speak what they really have on mind. Unpredictable,sick,greedy people.

deneb
deneb
4 years ago

“Why don’t you just find a good man instead? He will take care of you.”

reality check: only someone who doesn´t understand eastern european mentality, history and culture could write something like this. in countries where wars and alcohol consumption made part of everyday life til very recently, families had to count on not being able to rely on man supporting them in any way possible. even nowadays, there are families which have to count on mother´s income no matter how miserable it is. other than that, earning power in EE is very low independently on what your gender is. most families cannot afford to have only one parent that works.

TyKo Steamboat
TyKo Steamboat
4 years ago

When I first read the headline for this article topic, I assumed it was going to be about how incredibly difficult it is to get an Eastern European woman into North America…

PeterAndrewNolan
PeterAndrewNolan
4 years ago

Wow Roosh,

you are finally talking about the depopulation agenda and the idea that all that is happening is not some cosmic co-incidence but might just actually be planned.

Well done.

Of course, the depopulation agenda of the committee of 300 is something I learned about almost immediately I started researching in May 2008. It is not hidden by any means.

While you were writing bang xyz books I was standing in a court room opposing the criminals in government and proving that the strawman recapture process worked.

After all, I did that on 2009-11-26….and I have been waiting for men to catch up ever since.

Alas, men have given the committee of 300 5 or 6 more years to be prepared for the inevitable social unrest that they are stirring up. And they have made very good use of those 5 or 6 years, while men have made no use at all of it.

We could have secured the rights of men in 2010 or 2011 if only men had done as my colleagues and I asked you to do.

But the 100,000+ men who I appealed to ignored my appeals.

And now you have a situation that, in my opinion, is going to require that many men fight and die in civil unrest or wars if there is to be any chance of opposing the committee of 300.

The churchill quote comes to mind.

“Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

With the work I did in 2008-09 victory was relatively sure in 2010 if men joined me to secure victory. The committee of 300 was not ready and it showed.

Now, given 5 or 6 more years to prepare?

You can bet your little cotton socks they are ready.

And I was even banned off your forums by some moron claiming “self promotion troll”….sigh.

ShadowRising
ShadowRising
4 years ago

I know Roosh makes his income from writing so he’s going to keep covering these topics to feed his readership. But I think he already has a viable solution. He’s Iranian. He enjoys living outside the USA, he wants a patriarchal society where women are beautiful, feminine and stay home, remain virgins, make babies and religious values permeate the culture. The elephant in the room staring Roosh in the face is…drumroll…Iran!

Iran is all those things. Why doesn’t he use his father’s family connections to find him a wife over there and go settle in Iran? I don’t know much about the standard of living there, but many seem to live well in Tehran and most Muslim countries will be traditional non-feminist societies for the foreseeable future. Roosh already has bloodline there and family roots, so why is he complaining about Western women when he can be in just the type of society he wants? Especially for a guy that believes in tribalism, Iranians are already his “tribe” and they already have the kind of society he wants. So what’s stopping you from settling in Iran?

These women look really wholesome in a way American women looked in the 50s. Persian women also seem obsessed with beauty. I don’t think any guy has to worry about a Persian women getting fat and letting herself go. Another added plus. This place sounds like Roosh paradise.
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/alitezar/2790869106_241c9866aa_b.jpg

jz95
jz95
4 years ago
Reply to  ShadowRising

I think the best thing Roosh can do is to give up European women for lost and go to either Iran or Armenia to find himself a wife.

Tmaximus
Tmaximus
4 years ago
Reply to  jz95

Iranian women, as it’s been for thousands of years, won’t marry unless a man can provide for their own home and income to provide for the family. Roosh doesn’t advocate for those traditions. FYI: Iranian women have not been chattel for a thousand years….the Koran gives them rights American women didn’t get until the 20th Century.

Roosh
4 years ago
Reply to  ShadowRising

I don’t speak Farsi, and don’t think I’d fare well living there, and I’m definitely not bringing an Iranian woman to USA. They turn into monsters here.

jz95
jz95
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

You might have a valid point. I had a woman Iranian teacher back in high school, and she was insufferable. What about Armenia?

advancedatheist
advancedatheist
4 years ago
Reply to  jz95

Armenians love to haggle and chisel. Their women might make frugal wives.

manuel hernandez
manuel hernandez
4 years ago

Just thread lightly with Armenian women or women with some Armenian descent here in the West. My ex fiancee was Mexican, but she was quarter Armenian from her mother’s side, who apparently made it to Mexico via Jerusalem in order to escape the Armenian genocide. And let me tell you, when I say the families are close, I mean it. They stick together so much it is asphyxiating. You have to take care of everyone, invite them to dinners, fix their appliances, you can’t take them out to dates without the mother or sisters checking in on them constantly, the men tend to be very cowed, you might end up being a nanny to their children. And then you have to deal with family fights, especially among the women. Combine that with modern Western style consumerism and feminist you go girl ideas, and it’s a shitstorm. And I thought my case was unique, until I bothered to watch the Kardashian clan, who happen to be Armenian, and then it all makes sense. Might explain Bruce turning into Caitlyn a bit. Now I’m not telling you don’t date Middle East or Armenian women for that matter. Just know what you’re getting into, and have an escape plan.

advancedatheist
advancedatheist
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Like in that reality series?

advancedatheist
advancedatheist
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Zoroastrian women don’t marry out, and their religion will go extinct in a few more generations. But have you heard anything about how Zoroastrian Iranian women compare to Muslim Iranian women?

Ace FAce
Ace FAce
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Well, you are a man, you can learn the lenguage and figure out how to live there, don´t you ?

jz95
jz95
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Roosh, with all due respect, you’re not giving a real reason to not give Iran a chance. I can understand your reservations of bringing a Persian girl back to the States, but saying that you don’t know the language or don’t know how you’ll do there is not an excuse, considering you’ve learned multiple languages already and have been living in a foreign culture (Eastern Europe) for some time.

Jones
Jones
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

What if you had spend your time and energy trying to address those problems? Still seems like a more viable path than the alternatives.

No Ask
No Ask
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

That’s not a very convincing reason. You didn’t grow up speaking Polish or Czech either; you either learned some or got by with English when in Europe. I’m sure you could do the same in a country you have roots in, but you simply don’t want to for whatever reason. People who are western at heart avoid living in truly eastern societies because there are too many dysfunctional habits they would miss.

joey zazza
joey zazza
4 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

You are an Iranian male born to an Iranian father – you have the RIGHT to Iranian citizenship. You can learn farsi at Dekhoda in Tehran.

123456789
123456789
4 years ago

When your comments start getting censored you know you’re on to the truth

oldfashionedfellow
oldfashionedfellow
4 years ago

It’s Adam, Eve, and the Serpent writ large. Nothing more than that.

BangBus
BangBus
4 years ago

I just want to fuck 100’s of women, NOT interested in being stuck with a woman that will hit the wall, stuff marriage, its a scam

I'mInDC
I'mInDC
4 years ago
Reply to  BangBus

And THIS is the reason it isn’t the government who’s “robbing” you of good women…its men.

jack ard
jack ard
4 years ago

I do understand the female dilemma here. Contrary to manosphere belief, I seriously doubt that life as divorced/single mother with kids is easy.

She might get to “keep” the family house (which largely belongs to the bank due to the large mortgage remaining). If the children are under school age the cost of childcare can be extortionate. The divorce settlement against the average John is hardly going to be much.

Even if she is a professional earning a good salary then money will still be tight due to the large mortgage her and her ex-husband took out based on their combined salaries. If she has no job then government benefits may well provide her with money for accommodation, food, etc but it will likely just provide an existence in a undesirable part of town rather than an aspiration or even pleasant lifestyle.

When it comes to finding a new boyfriend, the basic logistics of dating will be awkward (finding a babysitter, introducing a new man to kids who still love their daddy, etc) and more importantly there is the simple fact that guys worth their salt will choose a girl without kids.

I suspect that the worst part is not even financial – children, especially young children, are very hard work and even for a couple it can be difficult. Struck down with a virus and need to spend a day in bed – that’s not going to happen with a toddler who wakes up at 6am, needs fed and supervised every minute of the day until they finally go to sleep. Kid has a temperature and isn’t allowed to go to nursery – she has to call the boss and explain why she can’t come to work today and perhaps tomorrow, etc.

In 95%+ of cases, I really can’t believe that it’s a fun existence.

splooge
splooge
4 years ago

sweden is so gay and feminists, even the arabs are cucked

http://www.svtplay.se/video/1949092/unplay

and you guys were worried about an islamic takeover