How The Male Sex Drive Is Being Manipulated

How much of your sexual desire is innate, based on a natural human urge, and how much of it is based on influences from living in a cosmopolitan environment? I asked myself this when attempting a short break from sex in order to prepare for my recent summer tour, where I decided not to focus on women at all. This mild chastity experiment has forced me to conclude that my natural urge is being strongly affected by my surroundings.

I’ve already commented how watching porn can actually increase your perceived need for sex, but there’s something much more ordinary that is tempting you every day: the sight of female skin. Once summer finally got around to Poland in early June, girls walked the streets in little booty shorts and tank tops. This may have been a welcome sight for the horny man on the hunt, but for a man attempting to complete an important project on deadline, it was an impossible distraction. I could not help but think of sex when instantly viewing their bodies—and then how to get sex from them. This wasn’t as big of a problem for men thirty years ago when women were less eager to show their bits in public.

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While porn is doing a fine job to increase male thirst, you don’t need to load up a gangbang video to become aroused when most women are competing with each other to present themselves as sexual objects. At the same time they whine at misogynist men for not viewing them as intelligent and empowered creatures, they are wearing yoga pants where you can clearly see the mound of their vaginas, their individual labia, and even whether or not they’re shaved. Men have no immunity to viewing half-naked women in public and not thinking of sex, which instantly manipulates their sex drive. The reason you are hornier in the summer than in the winter is not due to air temperature, but because in the summer you are seeing 100 extra pairs of bare legs a day.

If you were to live in a village without internet and only three of four attractive women were present within a 50 mile radius, would you think of sex more or less than if you lived in a Western city with internet? The answer is obvious. This means that while you live in cities, your sexual urge is being amplified to a level that may be difficult—if not impossible—to sate.

A man’s behavior is far easier to control when he is in an extreme state of either sexual frustration or sexual excess. He’s so concerned with a blinding sexual urge that he is less able to direct his masculinity onto becoming more independent, self-reliant, and free-thinking—traits required to fight against corrupt forces that surround him. It’s no surprise that Hollywood productions aim to whip up the sexual appetites of men to a level that they can’t possibly satisfy.

The encouragement of in-your-face female sexuality and the pornification of our society is merely a new version of a program to control men. These men think they are “free” to do as they want, and certainly feel privileged to have casual sex with the object of their desires, but so much of their time is now occupied towards sex, based on a urge that is being deliberately manipulated by their environment, that they have no leftover energy or will to dedicate towards more serious concerns like the improvement of their neighborhood, city, or nation.

I wish I could say that men have the strength to resist the delicious naked flesh that cavorts in front of them every day, but like all other animals, we are not immune to our environment. I now fully understand why Islamists insist on covering women in public—to prevent the true sexual objectification of women. If women of the West want to prevent this, they are more than free to cover up their skin so that the men who catch sight of them in public will not think of sex. And then maybe us men could get some more important work done.

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Ming the Merciless
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Gee ya think the bearded twit in the yellow shirt in the bottom photo is getting any slut action? Those sluts aren’t even particularly hot, but my guess would be NO.

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he might have a shot if he were to lift a bit, lay off the starbucks, and lose the gut and man boobs.

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And shave that fucking fungus off his face! WTF? Those girls are all pretty damn ugly anyway.

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Spot on as usual.

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The implication, of course, is that women expect to get something from amplifying the sexual signals that men face. But what could that be?

American men are steadily becoming more, not less wary of women. Social, legal, and cultural changes have made even glancing contact between the sexes a hazardous thing. Is the attempt to inflame the male libido intended as a counter-agent? Do women believe that they can have the legal and social privileges already achieved by feminist activists but still have the attention, support, and deference of husbands — or at least steady, faithful boyfriends?

I can’t see how they’ll pull that off, especially while the “casual sex is no big deal” ethic of the Sexual Revolution continues to hold sway.

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Q:What could that be? A: Participation/interest?
From a cost/benefit perspective having no interaction (or even exceptionally) limited with men would be highly damaging for women in modern society:
No child support, no rape accusation settlements, no half of everything or more in the divorce (even in more optimistic terms: no support, no safe haven/home, no progeny). Of course, if we were to have our sperm collected and dispersed by the state, and became socialist/communist so that our labor could be taken for free to brace-up the elite class and females…

Maybe it is because we are more weary? Sort of baiting the hook. And particularly insidious if so, as the thinking that backs it all up is that: When a woman sleeps around = slutty, when a man does it he is praised. As though women are deserving of some special consideration due to this without any acknowledgement that a man can be penalized too, legally or through communicable disease, etc. Yet know that they must present themselves as appealing, at least in the beginning, to attract interaction while at the same time seeking to shame the men who point out unacceptable actions and behaviors, sort of: This is a free* (*first look is free then pay as you go from there) buffet line, how dare you question the nutritious quality or taste of the food?

And that’s before even considering the marketing and industries built up entirely for the sole purpose of profit from counseling, court, tension/suspicion/friction between the sexes, etc. and their added manipulations.

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Yeah. Every woman dressed like a whore is saying, “the first hit is free.”

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“I can’t see how they’ll pull that off, especially while the “casual sex is no big deal” ethic of the Sexual Revolution continues to hold sway”

I think it is a couple of factors, 1.) women are simply too stupid to see the bigger picture, and 2.) There are still enough clueless and emotionally desperate men willing to still waste their time on westernized females.

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“Stupid” is the wrong term. Short-sighted is a better description. Women are myopic, not necessarily stupid. Those aren’t always the same thing.

Women are different, not less valuable. So learn to treat them according to who they are, not who you think they should be. It’s like long-term and short-term memory. You need both. Men are more visionary, women more myopic. They are supposed to be complimentary to one another, not opposed.

Incidentally, this is why children need both fathers and mothers. Women’s myopic viewpoint addresses the immediate needs of children, where men’s more visionary approach leads to better development as future functioning adults.

My youngest daughter actually wrote a paper as a senior in high school entitled “When My Dad Made Me Cry,” thanking me for being so hard on her when she was in grade school. As a 17 year old, she understood that I saw more ability and potential in her as a 6 year old than she did, and appreciated me for pushing her beyond her comfort level.

This is something most mothers won’t do – especially if the child starts crying. I didn’t let her crying stop me from pushing her to do better. (I also didn’t prevent her mother from comforting her at the time.)

Kid’s need both persepectives, and believe it or not, you could benefit from a woman’s perspective also. Men may be better at understanding the long-term implications of behavior, but that doesn’t mean short-term considerations don’t have meaning and value.

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Generalizations are necessary but we need to remember that some women can and like to theorize.

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Of course there are exceptions. But you don’t make decision based on exceptions. You make decisions based on the statistically dominant reality.

Nevertheless, I don’t understand how your comment changes the generalizations I made. Theorizing doesn’t mean that women’s generally shorter-term outlook doesn’t affect how they theorize.

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Well to theorize you need to be able to think objectively and also long term instead of short term. Theories ought to withstand notions of time and space.

Scott
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Really? Are you making up the rules as you go?

Andrea
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No, history makes the rules.

Scott
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So, you’re a historian. Got it.

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So you’re right? Got it.

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You suck at arguing.

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Yes I do, when the argument is senseless.

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Not an argument.

Scott
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LOL. You start with an inanity: “There are exceptions to generalizations”, and think that makes you sound intelligent. Then when I call you on it, you follow with with a non-sequitor: “You have to think long-term to theorize”, which isn’t remotely factual. Finally, you appeal to authority: “History makes the rules.”

You are just a bundle of logical fallacies all rolled up together. I think I’m falling in love. Can I get your number?

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A beautifully executed troll takedown. I doff my hat.

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While I appreciate the sentiment, winning an argument with a child is no great achievement. I doubt the young lady actually learned anything. And I was just toying with her anyway, for my own personal amusement.

The “Yeah, but that doesn’t apply to everyone” argument is a dead giveaway of how undeveloped her reasoning skills are from the start.

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Now I really know you love me.

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It is the every present NAWALT argument women ALWAYS initiate without fail based on their hive mind cult programming “not all women are like that”.. but every woman I know and thousands of other guys I know, each of whom have known dozens or scores of girls that all do the Exact same thing. but nawalt.. right.. more hypocritical bullshit from brain dead beings.

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In this context, the manosphere, pointing that out was not inane but necessary. Then, are you really trying to argue that sound theories can be short sighted? Historically, sound theories have been objective and long term. I fell in love with you when you said you knew how to play with women. Can we just get married already?

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I think we could have some fun…

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We went from mere theories to sound theories, but since you brought it up, history demonstrates that the vast majority of those sound theories were postulated by men – or the rare (and less appealing) women who think like men.

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Andrea is right by stating that there are exceptions to generalizations. In science, you hypothesize first, then create an experiment, collect the data, evaluate and interpret results insofar one will reject hypothesis or accept it. Since experiments always involve a sample(s) (you can’t collect the data of every single item within a domain), you are forced to extrapolate (generalise) the results from the sample(s) to a domain from which you’ve collected the data. Hence, not having observed and measured every single item within the domain, new incoming data (exceptions) at some point in the future can (and most likely will) invalidate (to a lesser or greater degree) the hypothesis and all the process starts a new (look up Kuhn’s paradigm shift regarding revolutions and evolution in science). All of the scientific results ever have been and are provisional and open to revision. Famous examples being change from geocentrism to helicentrism or from Newtonian to relativity mechanics.

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Are you really lecturing me on how the scientific process works? I’m a scientist/engineer who teaches in college.

I teach Basic Electrical Theory, Mathematics and Practical Thermodynamic Design.

Seriously, get a grip. The reality that generalizations have exceptions is so axiomatic that describing it as inane is EXACTLY the right way to characterize the statement.

Also, such a statement only sounds profound to a child. “What, not everything Daddy says is true of Everyone? Wow! Hey Dad, did you know that sometimes you’re wrong?,” she said with great seriousness.

LOL

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Scott, You fucking rock XD

Scott
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So, the science is NOT settled on Global Warming? Quick, someone tell the President!

At Ari
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Not some but all women and men do all the time (with an exception of humans with congenitially underdeveloped relevant brain structures).

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Another way to apply the action-reaction comparison and contrast between the genders is: Men raised by a solid male figure, whose entire patriarchal chain tends to have few breaches in solidarity, are prepared.

Prepared for most everything life throws at them, unless of course it’s undoing was wielded by a women unnaturally empowered by legislation that fucks the guy away from his chain of solidarity, and affect on the child.. which is far to common and at the core of social erosion.

Women “react” to problems they were warned about, almost always from a man, or a system created by a man that’s stood the test of time, months, years, sometimes decades in advance. They don’t fix the check engine light of life, they let shit break, and often cause the breakage with their behavior.

Skin flaunting, yoga pants wearing, and can’t figure out why guys begin to permanently mark them as sexual objects. Problem causer. Shooting themselves in their own foot then crying like a baby about it until the patriarchal replacement of gov’t, or feminist sympathizers comes to their rescue, only to put a big, leaking bandaide on an open wound, which resurfaces infected and worse than before later in life.

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Women are absolutely less valuable in our current times due to the fact that their primary value…giving birth to the new generation has been abandoned for careers and you go girlism.

Everything a woman can do a man does it better.

The only thing a woman can do which a man cannot is give birth. Women are so brainwashed now that they actually revile and murder the fruit of their womb.

In this respect women like this are not just less valuable but completely lacking any value whatsoever.

Do they have a career? That’s one job a man could be doing better right this instant. She should be at home raising and tending to her family and helping it remain strong.

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Exactly.. I’ve said these exact same things myself many times!

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Sounds like you’re fighting the good fight to raise a decent daughter. Society needs good fathers; keep it up.

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Scott, I think it would be worth to back up your assertions with evidence. Bold claims need them. A lot of it. Otherwise, it’s pretty much a word salad with no substance. For example, you write that “Women are different (…).” Can you back it up with some evidence? Writing that “Women are myopic (…)” is a malapropism, to start. I reckon you used that word as a metaphor but it’s a very poor one which doesn’t help clarity of your argument(?) one bit. Also, in respect of males being better parents than mothers, this is another assertion with no unequivocal evidence (perhaps you could cite some longitudinal studies regarding parenting? – there would be so many confounding factors it would be virtually impossible to state what is the case, anyway). Frankly, I’d recommend for you to do the readings, then thought things through before putting forward claims. Otherwise, you might get laughed at (many) more times than you’d like to.

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I need to cite some study to make the claim that men and women are different? Ahahahahahaha.

Are you retarded?

Next up: “Studies Show That Apples and Oranges Are Different. Critics Claim That Both Can Be Classified as ‘Fruit’.” Let’s debate…

Also, when did I make the claim that men are better parents than women? I claimed that they have differing viewpoints, and that both are necessary. You are the one who imputed more value to the male perspective, not me. I claim that BOTH are equally necessary – something the Divorce Courts seem to misunderstand. If anything, we as a society have given primacy to the female perspective, which is why our society in general is so short-sighted, and focused on immediate gratification

And, perish the thought that someone might laugh at me. I wonder if my fragile male ego could handle it?

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While Scott may not think that men are better parents, I personally do and have seen it countless times. Some say that up to 85% of all criminals are raised by single mothers and studies conclusively that children of single mother homes are more violent than single father homes.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/single-mom-households-create-more-violent-men/

http://deltabravo.net/cms/plugins/content/content.php?content.284

Differences in men and women
Typically, men’s brains are 11-12% bigger than women’s brains
Mathematical abilities. An area of the brain called the inferior-parietal lobule (IPL) is typically significantly larger in men, especially on the left side, than in women. This section of the brain is thought to control mental mathematical ability, and probably explains why men frequently perform higher in mathematical tasks than do women. Interestingly, this is the same area of Einstein’s brain that was discovered to be abnormally large.

Spatial ability. Men typically have stronger spatial abilities, or being able to mentally represent a shape and its dynamics, whereas women typically struggle in this area.

These all combine to give men superior mental abilities and intellect in virtually everything that matters, such as creating the ENTIRE WORLD, inventions, problem solving in the 3 dimensional Newtonian world, which is the level humans live in, fixing things, being able to keep calmer and come up with solutions instantly in a crisis and SO much more. Not to even mention men being stronger, faster, having 17% greater lung capacity and a heart that moves more blood overall, giving men greater endurance, strength and energy reserves than women have, etc.

The only area’s a woman’s brain is larger is in the language and emotional centers..

http://www.mastersofhealthcare.com/blog/2009/10-big-differences-between-mens-and-womens-brains/

http://drjamesdobson.org/Solid-Answers/Answers?a=ff773023-2693-410d-b9e1-662f6985be4e

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Women have been raising males since the feminist revolution and men have been growing up being really fucked up. Not sure you need evidence for that you can see the current state of society. Men don’t even bother going to college meaning more women go to college. Most serial killers are raised by WOMEN. And if you go back to the pre feminist revolution society was solid and strong set with “manly” values and children grew far more succcessfull in their adult endeavors.

You can Google all these and get articles, and studies that prove it. I can say that the sky is blue but some knuckle head might say okay where is the evidence to prove the sky is blue. There’s no need to show evidence because one the sky “appears” blue when you look up which only takes 1 second and you can research the info on the world wide web and get a fancy video on YouTube by some professor about how light travels from the sun and due to the angle of entry into the atmosphere causes the blue color effect that results in the current color that the sky holds, yada yada yada. It’s easy to research.

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But men have both. Women are redundant and abusive.

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“But what could that be?”

Simply: Notice me! Notice me! Notice me!

After all, she must signal if she wants to snag her five minutes of alpha.

“Do women believe that they can have the legal and social privileges already achieved by feminist activists but still have the attention, support, and deference of husbands — or at least steady, faithful boyfriends?”

They– correctly– believe they can vote themselves all the support and provisioning politicians can muster. And as the prime consumer, women have the rapt attention and complete deference of media and industry.

The last part, the prospect of diminished individual beta attention, is not a critical threat to women. More of an annoyance. Men misunderstand this because they are incorrigibly solipsistic romantics.

“…especially while the “casual sex is no big deal” ethic of the Sexual Revolution continues to hold sway.”

The Sexual Revolution ended with “Affirmative Consent.” Watch the glass, Mr. Monahan.

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“diminished individual beta attention…” when men can GO TO FUCKING PRISON FOR HAVING SEX it causes some huge fucking problems, dig?

These men weigh cost vs reward and decide that pussy isn’t worth 10-15 in the pen. Then they get sexually frustrated. The shit builds up and he explodes, killing humans in the process.

Why do men participate on the psychosis of society and its psycho rules? FOR PUSSY!!!

WITHOUT it! We have no fucking reason not to kill everyone and anYone around us!!

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Dann that sounds fucking sad, but then again it’s true for most of the losers psycho killers that go on killing sprees.

I always wonder if the male population was lowered to 100million what would happen to the world honestly, would it survive and what would the 3.5 billion females do would they actually try to maintain the world or would they let it fall apart? It sounds fucked up but I really wish i could create this experiment in the real world would be such a beautiful thing to study and finally figure out if women can actually maintain a world as they profess in every argument they have with me.

Any scientist who can create this scenario in real life please do.

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The best decision men can make is to tell women, “we have collectively given you trillions of chances to join us.” Then leave them in the dust. Women ARE The Great Filter.

Through our genius of technology we can create our own partners — even with perfect bodies, perfect tits, perfect pussy, and most importantly, lack of all psychosis and evil.

Men will become Gods without women in their tow.

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This article is one of the reasons I have difficulty with the whole range of definitions of men as Alphas, Betas, Gammas, Deltas, Omegas, etc. It seems to me that it makes men define themselves on the basis of their interactions with women instead of their individualistic pursuits as men. Hence, women are still (passively) in control of how a man is defined. I have some philosophical struggles with that.

On the other hand, I find the descriptions of the hypergamous nature of women to be very enlightening, and that helps me understand my own interactions with women. I honestly don’t know how to define myself according to the range of descriptions, and wonder if they don’t change over time. Also, I wonder about the “natural” inclinations of men versus the behaviors that are learned.

When studying Meyers-Briggs personality types, it is apparent that over time someone who is naturally introverted can train themselves to become more extroverted in professional settings to help themselves be more successful. But the core underlying personality type remains the same, and the person reverts to that in other environements, or at the very least find unnatural behavior more internally stressful. I wonder about “training” alpha type behaviors, and how lasting those behaviors would be over time in a long-term relationship.

Just as a natural Gamma or Beta can be trained to adopt some Alpha-type behaviors, I wonder if our society is also training natural Alpha-type men to adopt beta behaviors. So, if you are a natural Alpha-type, and find it fairly easy to attract women without much effort, does affiliation with a religious upbringing, or immersion in our mind-numbing K-12 school system tend to teach you to behave contrary to your natural inclination?

Also, is your natural category determined by more than how women react to you? Can it also be descriptive of how other men react to you?

It seems to me that if a natural Alpha type man behaves contrary to his inclination, then simply exposing him to the deception to the point he begins to understand women on a cognitive level, and not merely on an intinctual level, would help him revert more easily to his natural alpha state without much effort or training. On the other hand, if a man is naturally a Beta or Gamma, exposing him to the truth would be more likely to discourage him because the effort required to change would seem insurmountable in some cases.

Hence, for myself, I am grateful to the manosphere for educating me on the differences. But I can see how other men might not find the information so welcome. For myself, I have always been a dominant male in both male and female environments, and when younger, always dated the prettiest of women. I even instructed my son that the easiest way to get a pretty woman to go out with you is simply to ask.

Maybe that worked for me because I was so naturally dominant, and simply asking doesn’t work for other men the way it always worked for me. I simply didn’t care if a woman rejected me because 1) there were always plenty of other very good looking women you would say yes, and 2) I didn’t really care if she didn’t respond favorably the first time. I assumed she would regret it later.

Even now, overweight, and 50 years old, and 7 years divorced, I have had 5 different women propose marriage to me in the last few years, ranging from 17 years younger than me to a couple of years older. I am NOT a stunningly attractive man, but once I start interacting in a social or professional setting, both men and women fall into line and follow me. Sometimes, it is actually annoying because I don’t want the responsibility of leading them.

Nevertheless, during my marriage, I can honestly say that I adopted some Beta and/or Gamma behaviors because I thought that was what I was supposed to do to 1) be a good husband, and 2) respect my wife. I didn’t understand why she reacted negatively to the things I was told I was supposed to be, and tried to be. Now, because of the manosphere, I understand what I was doing wrong.

This is why I have no idea where to classify myself. I don’t see pursuing women as the “vital” characterization of what makes a man manly. Simply put, women are too easy for me to use their reactions to me as a definition of who I am as a man. I think it needs to be something more intrinsic to the man himself, and if a woman finds that attractive or not is immaterial. A man defines himself, and shouldn’t be labelled according to how women react to him.

Although I find it naturally easy to attract women, I also find qualities in other men which are very admirable and even enviable who don’t have it as easy with women as I do. And to downgrade them as men because of their success or lack thereof with women is to diminish your own exposure to the many, many fine qualities that other men have simply as men.

This is why, although in the limited sphere of how women react to men and their behaviors, I find the labels useful; in the larger sphere of how men interact with other men, and with society at large, I find the definitions very limiting. We, as men, should not place value on other men based on how women see them, but on their intrinsic value as men. There are a great many things we can learn from each other, and the vast diversity among men in talents, skills, and ability are something each of us should value in each other.

To sum it up. Men should be about men, not women. Women are an enjoyable diversion, and add spice to life. But men provide substance and weight to the advancement of the species. Women simply provide the next generation of men. So, despite the definitions, we can value the Gamma male for what he provides as a man to other men. The understanding of women is helpful because we need to have subsequent generations of men, and tolerating and even enjoying women is desriable. But if you define your manliness by your notch count, then you are simply another men who is letting women define your value. And that is just sad.

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I can see what you are saying, and will say that I have seen dominant males indoctrinated to the point of submissiveness through societal pressures. They were very unhappy and discontented, like a kettle under too much pressure, quick to snap and emotionally chaotic (more like women in that regard). Don’t know about the other “labels” and whether they can be converted to “alpha,” but from a purely repetitive behavioral pattern standpoint, surely familiarizing oneself with good practices and acting on them would be possible and preferable?

I find that in being who I am without any excuses, justifications, or filtering naturally attracts others, while also being off-putting to some. However, I would choose to associate with those who come to me rather than my having to go to them. That would be unnatural, I would always be miserable, and my social circle would be those who I found I could tolerate with enough effort instead of those I enjoyed. As for “notch counts,” I agree, they shouldn’t define any man, they are a by-product.

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“Even now, overweight, and 50 years old, and 7 years divorced, I have had 5 different women propose marriage to me in the last few years, ranging from 17 years younger than me to a couple of years older. I am NOT a stunningly attractive man”

I hear what you are saying, if you do not mind me asking you, are you a man of financial means?

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LOL. My ex-wife got most of the “financial means” in the divorce. I do ok, but I’ve had offers to become a “kept man.” So, if you are thinking it is my money that is attracting women, think again.

Also, just for the record, one of the women who wants me to marry her self describes as a sexual addict, weighs 110 lbs, and rides 100 mile bike races for fun. She’s now 32, and has been after me to marry her for 4 years.

Like the literature says, it really is the fact that women get turned on by dominant men. It’s like catnip to them. And they love men who other men defer to. They like being attached to the top guy, and find their identity in who they are attached to.

As far as attracting people, I also have been offered a loan of several hundred thousand dollars by a multimillionaire friend to start my own business. I’m still mulling the offer since I hesitate to take money from a friend.

But the main reason he offered me the money was because he likes hanging out with me. He’s an Alpha male in his own right, having sold his company at age 41 for $300 million. Once again, he did not get his self-worth from how women reacted to him. He defined himself, and still does.

So the attractiveness is not simply to women. Other men find being with me enjoyable.

What is NOT enjoyable is the women-loathing that many in the manosphere engage in. Women are just women. They are who they are. Hating them for it is pointless. Yes, the Power dynamic is off, and yes, men need to be made more aware of how women tick in order to deal with them effectively.

But by and large, women are just like pets. If you treat them according to their nature, they’ll love you. If not, you have all kinds of problems. You don’t treat a cat like a dog, and you don’t treat a woman like a man. Women are intrinsically selfish and interested in themselves.

The way to a woman’s heart is to make her feel good about being a woman. It’s not by elevating yourself. That false bravado doesn’t work in the long run. Just be manly, and above all, DO NOT elevate women above who or what they are. The other thing is that women like to be played with – much like a dog likes to chase a stick and bring it back to you. So learn how to play with them.

It’s really very simple.

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“It’s really very simple.”

No, actually it really isn’t very simple at all. That’s why the manosphere and PUA blogs exist. Women are incredibly difficult and picky and highly selective. You assume just because it is very easy for you to get attractive women, it should be just as easy for everyone else. .but it isn’t. You maybe naturally extroverted and with the ability to put people and women at ease through conversation but not everyone has that ability by default. Some of us, especially the introverts, have to work very hard to develop these kind of social skills and ease with people and women that others take for granted.

Anyway I find it very difficult to believe that according to you:

“Even now, overweight, and 50 years old, and 7 years divorced, I have had 5 different women propose marriage to me in the last few years, ranging
from 17 years younger than me to a couple of years older. I am NOT a stunningly attractive man”

Maybe you’re being too modest and you are more attractive than you say.. or you’ve just been incredibly lucky and been in the right social circles.. or maybe it is as you said.. that getting attractive women for some reason is just very easy for you .. because of your innate personality traits.. Be thankful you were born with those gifts naturally and don’t be so smug and condescending to men who aren’t as lucky and who have to work hard to develop them.

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It’s true I had a friend who was obese, okay he was 5’8″ and weighed about 250lbs. And had women in and out of his room all the time. I went out with him a few times and he just had the ability to talk sly talk his way into any woman’s pants.

I’m not hideous but I’m not a model lol, but once in a blue moon when I’m not being a dog at a club hitting on every woman at the bar lol, I get hit on by women.

The best advice I got from a friend who was pretty good looking he said if you work the room and hit on as much women as you can you are garaunteed, more than not, to leave with one at the end of the night.

Statistically speaking he is right, I mean if you are introverted and too scared to hit on anyone then you will not go home with anyone unless you are super model material then women will come to you and take you home even then it’s up in the air.

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This I’m printing out and putting on my refrigerator. Well done! I assume you hail from the States?

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I’m printing this out and putting on my refrigerator. Hopefully you are telling the truth. That said, I strive to be you, good sir.

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Morrison,

Yes, I am from the States. I live in Texas, but have lived in 7 other states and another country, also. I weigh 145 kg, so yes, I am overweight. It bothers me, and I want to get back to the 74 kg I weighed when I was 20 years old. I have 3 children, a 25 yr old son, and daughters who are 23 and 21. I have never been ugly, but not really hansome. I would rate myself a 6.5 if I was at my ideal weight, and right now I’m below average due to my weight. But I have always been extroverted and confident. I had my first girlfriend and first kiss at age 7 (her name was Cheryl), and the level of women I dated as a young man included a Playboy model (girls of the Southwest Conference – 1988 edition).

Be careful what you wish for, though. The main reason I am now divorced is because my ex-wife was very beautiful, got hit on all the time, and never really put it all aside to be married to me. I was married a month short of 20 years, and she never really stopped looking for attention from other men. Although I was never the jealous kind, I was always being compared to others, and found lacking. She obviously thought she might have done better. It was a pretty miserable marriage.

Yes, I have a natural ease with women, but I also have a powerful sense of commitment, and put women off the entire time I was married. I never strayed. So, for years, I avoided connections with women on purpose in order to stay faithful. In the end, she strayed, and I was pretty devastated. But looking back, I did adopt a lot of beta/gamma actions while married. I thought I was supposed to do that to be a good husband. That’s why I talked about natural Alphas acting like betas or whatever other label someone would give my behavior. I think you can “learn” wrong behavior also. So, the whole concept of Hypergamy, which I discovered AFTER my marriage ended, was a revelation to me.

Lastly, NEVER strive to be someone else. Seriously, I’ve never wanted to be someone other than who I am. You shouldn’t strive to be me. I’m sure you have innate gifts and abilities, and should strive to develop your strengths.

As for women, unlike Roosh, I can go for months at a time without female relationships. But even when I’m not that interested, women still come on to me. I’ll give you an example.

Up until about the end of June, I had been on a self-imposed hiatus from dating women. I had simply gone without dating women for 4 years, and didn’t have much interest. I closed my company 2 years ago, and moved to Colorado. Once there, I was working as a design engineer, and there was a lady salesperson who was a real bitch to everyone else in the company. She TRIED to be a bitch with me, but I shut her down completely. I simply wouldn’t put up with her. Within a short time, she became more passive and submitted to me because I strongly asserted my will in meetings we had together. She started calling me “Babe” in meetings.

While others were intimidated by her, she actually started treating me with deference and respect. (note: after 9 months with the company, the owner asked me to sit on his executive team, so it wasn’t just the lady who was reacting to me.) In July of 2014, at a company event, she came onto me very strongly. She was in my truck, with her skirt pulled up to her waist, and asking me to kiss her. I refused because I didn’t want to get involved with her, and I knew her type. She was very similar to my ex-wife. She actually grabbed my crotch and asked me if I was a real man. Ultimately, I took her home and even though she got undressed and in my bed, I still refused her. Needless to say, I DECIDE who I will have sex with, and who I won’t. I am not led by my penis.

When I decided to start dating again, it was the last week of June of 2015. Within 10 days, I was on a trip with a woman I’d just met to the Apostle Islands in Lake Superior, and we subsequently took trips together to Chicago and Houston. Last month, I flew to Minnesota to spend my 50th birthday with her, and she bought tickets to the symphony for us. I stayed with her 6 days, and she cried when I left because she knew I wasn’t coming back. She also told me my ex-wife was a fool to let me go.

Yesterday, I had a first date with a different woman here in Texas (I moved back to Texas 6 weeks ago) that lasted 4 hours, and at the end of the date she was holding her head in her hands, staring into my eyes, and saying “Amazing.” She told me she’d never met another man like me.

But also, 3 days before that, I had another first date with a different woman that was completely a complete dead end. There was no connection at all. I wasn’t upset by that. I just went on to the next woman. Not every woman is attracted to me, and vice-versa.

It really is as simply as walking up to a woman with confidence and asking her out. My suggestion is to learn how to “play” with women with your words. Be a little dismissive, and a little disrespectful – what a woman would call “sassy.” They eat that stuff up. Don’t be me. Be you. But don’t be so serious about it. Have some fun with it. And if a woman responds in a less than positive way, move on. Don’t dwell on it. There are a lot of women in the world. Don’t get hung up on one.

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Thanks for sharing, man.

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Interesting stories and I highly agree with your thoughts on what define a man.

6 months ago I got out of a 3 yr relationship(my longest). She was 10 yrs younger than me and highly insecure. 3 days after we broke up I fucked one of her ex friends who came on to me. It was some pretty rough sex with a slutty girl. I was choking her so hard she was tapping out.

Of course she hit me up again for more of the rough sex but I particularly was done with her but said yea we can fuck tonite but I’m tired and ill probably just fuck your mouth. This is exactly what I did.

Now in the past I would’ve felt awesome about this. This time I just felt dirty and empty.

Then I started having problems socializing with women because I didn’t care about gaming them and fucking them as quickly as possible anymore.

I realized that even though I treated my ex kind of shitty, I really did have strong feelings for her and I basically realized this after she’s gone for good.

Not that it wasn’t necessary though. The relationship grew kind of toxic and I just got lazy and stagnated.

So when it was finally over I started working out again and getting my drive back. Just started a new job that is a great opportunity for me and challenge to rise to the occasion.

At this point I’ve basically sworn off women kind of like you did. But also for the first time in my life I quit watching porn and masturbating. .

It has been nearly 3 months now of no sexual activity whatsoever. I honestly do not know how I’ve done it or how I continue to do so. Not to mention I work in the nightlife at a popular bar with loads of beautiful women.

Just this past weekend I had a girl offer to blow me just to let her in the bar.

Because I have been able to exert this level of control over myself I have reached a point where I feel superior to almost everyone.

Mostly I just feel disgust towards others. While they glut themselves on various vices and lusts I have achieved another level of self mastery.

Now I look at women and I see shallow caricatures of wannabe men in their mannerisms and speech.

Since I’m not a homosexual I find this very disgusting. After a few seconds of conversation with most females and the constant up talk they use, where they end every sentence in a way that sounds like they are asking a question, I find myself just wanting to fucking strangle them.

Now that I no longer desire casual sex this I suppose would make me an omega on the smv hierarchy?

I only want to fuck a girl at this point for the purpose of her happily squirting out my children and dutifully staying at home to tend to home and hearth.

Realizing the near impossibility of achieving this in western civilization I aim to use all my productivity to give me options for travel abroad in a few years.

To what ends though I’m not sure. I have all this freedom and options and yet I feel a stifling isolation from others.

I am a natural introvert but as an ex pro fighter and current kickboxing instructor, I can be very dominant whenever I wish. My natural state however is a contemplative introspection.

I do like to be social though and being alone all the time can make me depressed. The problem is I’m not satisfied with banal social interactions and I despise “small talk”.

In the past I trained myself to do all these things because I wanted to bang as many hot girls as I could and it gave me a rush to go out there and dominate them.

Now I’m just indifferent. By my definition most women are disgusting pigs who will ride the cock carousel for as long as they can. Women like this if they were dying on the side of the road it isn’t very likely I would help them. I want them to expire and even though they are killing themselves and their offspring…..they simply can’t do it fast enough. Call me impatient but I just want them out of my fucking sight.

When I see single women 30+ yrs old I immediately feel this in born revulsion and disgust. I know they are defective with very little exception.

In conclusion fuck this gay earth. Why in the fuck did I have to be born in a time when I can’t swing an axe into someone’s fucking face?

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READ YOUR POST AGAIN AND SEE WHY I AS A WOMAN SEE YOU AS A PIECE OF SHIT

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You should seriously consider seeing a shrink. Good luck!

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Everyone needs a shrink except him (just kidding wink )

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I purely despise /what women have become/ as well as the rest of the “woman-haters” in the manosphere.

Women CAN be a great complement to men when society controls their natures instead of piling everything on men’s shoulders and treating them like dirt.

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‘Men should be about men, not women.’ Yes.. People here continue to claim that ‘Women are attracted to men who have slept with many women, as it proves their alpha-ness,’ or something along those lines. I think this is untrue. Women are attracted to men who ‘attract’ other men. A woman can instinctually tell if a man is a leader or follower. She doesn’t need the approval of other women (at least the confident women don’t). If he does not sleep with a lot of women, it RAISES his value, because it shows he has self-control, strength, and will- all extremely masculine qualities.

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My conclusion is the most “alpha” thing a man could ever be, is undefinable. I know too many real sapps that were once “alpha” by standards loosely thrown about the manosphere. And if my years of solitude building a business and pushing nearly everyone out of my life to do so is “omega” or “beta” while putting most pussy on the backburner, well then I’m all that too. Losing the business during a turbulent market wasn’t beta either, it’s the balls taking the risk in the first place that mattered for me.

To me being a real “man” has nothing to do with emulating the Ratt Pack, suiting up, constant wittiness, or being this performance-burdened exhibitionist. It’s moreso about leading a balanced life. You leave something unattended to for too long, and it weighs everything else down with it.

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Society uses men’s own desires against them to enslave them while women keep the beta hordes thirsty long enough to make them desperate enough to marry. As a man, if you cannot properly satisfy your sexual desires or at least control it, they will find a way to fuck you over eventually.

It is male thirst keeps the gynocentric system going. Can you imagine all men suddenly losing their sex drives? Women would fall off from their sky-high pedestals and the entire rotten system will come crumbling down.

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The problem with the idea of all men simultaneously losing their sex drives is that it is a demographic dead end. It is species suicide. Women have one vital role to provide – providing the next generation of men, and providing a new generation of women who will provide subsequent generations of men. I agree that the power dynamic is off, but to go to the opposite extreme is an overreaction.

Also, while I agree that we overvalue sex in a feminocentric society, it is still an enjoyable distraction. The problem really arrived when we gained the technological ability to separate sex from procreation. When the inevitable result of sex was pregnancy and children, that mere fact imposed a discipline on sexual profligacy that no longer exists today – especially in western society.

A woman would be more circumspect in her activity because she knew that pregnancy meant the loss of freedom. And that would diminish a man’s ability to sow his wild oats – simply because of the lack of women willing to accommodate his irresponsible behavior. Both Genders behaved with more consideration for the other because the reality of pregnancy forced them to do so. Now, you have both sexes acting irresponsibly, and blaming each other for the excesses of the other.

We cannot put that genie back in the bottle. But we can choose to act responsibly, and only associate with those of the opposite sex who also make the same choice. Unfortunately, as men, we are still at risk due to the “cash and prizes” reality of our family court system. But that is simply a risk you must either decide to take, or otherwise adopt the MGTOW philosophy completely.

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LOLZ @ “Biocunt”

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Making a “society” means making a better nest.

It’s necessarily gynocentric,– as healthy, happy women presumably make better kids. This serves men’s interests in the very long term.

In a healthy society, the main incentive “carrot” for a man’s participation is grounded in hope: belief in the likelihood of better outcomes for his offspring. Men sacrifice a tremendous degree of autonomy and personal power, negating their own immediate self-interest, to advance this abstraction; to build a “commonwealth.”

It’s not thirst that keeps things going; thirst is just one of several prime movers. It really comes down to hope… and gullibility. The power of faith in the commonwealth. Of expectation.

Unfortunately, as they are only abstractions, these concepts can easily be overlooked… or, as in our society, subverted and completely turned on their heads.

For example, the desire for intergenerational advancement is now a sin: privilege. The desire to collect on the commonwealth is also a sin: entitlement. Displeasure with this state of affairs is prima facie evidence of one’s fallen nature: ‘isms or ‘ogonies. Complaint and argumentation are heretical,– “violence”– and, naturally, require suppression for the good of the… “commonwealth.”

It’s a perverse inversion.

They fuck you over because you cling to your faith. Unfulfilled sexual desire isn’t the fundamental problem.

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Inter generational advancement is only a sin if you are white and still hooked into the mainstream media matrix

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“Inter generational advancement is only a sin if you are white”… and male. But that’s all that counts anyway. Going after white men is a decapitation stroke.

When you say “mainstream media matrix,” I say culture. Now that religion is lifeless and captured, media shapes expectations. It is religion and culture-maker amalgamated. And is unavoidable… unless you are Amish, English.

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For obvious reasons, guys like us are acutely aware of the fact that gender stereotyping is a two-way street, and the hypersexualized, Feminized culture we live in implies that men are defective if they don’t fit the “Every Seven Seconds” rule.

I think our gender could spare itself a lot of grief if we asked ourselves if sex is really the end-all, be-all a little more often.

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Men self control, but this is not about it because it is presented as “normal” due to indoctrination and habitualization, thus men are not aware of the “manipulation”. It’s not exactly women, but the whole game. In fact studies show that women have low self control despite their low sexual drive.

Females primates, or animals in general behave like that for mating purposes, in other words, “it is an invitation for sex”. If men were to act in congruence, women would be banged in the act in the streets. Our society allows women to act animalistic to lure men, but punish men for been natural/men(libido).

We also see that women are closer to the animal side of our species and men to the human side, despite the high libido men is the one who creates a human meaning for sex. You can see an animal in how they dress, in porn, promiscuity, prostitution, movies, etc. Otherwise rape would not be rape(a human concept).

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” If women of the West want to prevent this, they are more than free to cover up their skin so that the men who catch sight of them in public will not think of sex”

Because it is exactly why women dress the way they do in order to manipulate men. That whole “be attracted to me for my mind” that women scream about is all bs. The second the Human male stops looking at women as sex objects is the same second women will no longer be able to play men for suckers. Read “The Manipulated Man” by Esther Vilar.

“Once summer finally got around to Poland in early June, girls walked the streets in little booty shorts and tank tops. This may have been a welcome sight for the horny man on the hunt, but for a man attempting to complete an important project on deadline, it was an impossible distraction”

It’s no longer an issue for me anymore and I’m surprised it still is for Roosh. After enough experience with women and you know their true nature, and I’m talking when a man truly understands them, that women flashing their skin doesnt do much for him anymore. In fact when I see obvious signs of attention whoring from a female, flashing skin, whorish attire, I’ll make it a point to look the other way from them.

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“Read “The Manipulated Man” by Esther Vilar”
2 years ago I took out this classic from a Montreal university library. A few weeks ago I checked the catalogue and noticed it was gone. Gone… after being in the circulation collection probably since the early 70s.
Consider this in the context of what happened to Roosh ‘s State of Man tour this past summer. Make no mistake, we are living in historic times. Feminism is now not even hiding their attemps at censorship, and the current power dynamic is enabling them to ‘decide’ what is truth. No other opinions allowed.
note : I had another library re-order the book… free-speech is not dead, bitches.

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Interesting. The Manipulated Man has been made available as a free .pdf – though I think it’s a warez file, but at least the engl8sh version seems true to the kindle version I purchased. And bte the same site also offets the pdf free in the original German version, as well as spanish. Try googling the “Manipulated Man” in wuotes and add “.pdf” and you should be taken directly to the source.

But what you experienced in the library is something we will see more of happening. A rough way to monitor this is by nonitoring the book count in library listings from Workdcat.

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There is no reason to cover women up in Burkas. That stuff goes way too far. There is plenty of room between being dressed in an attractive way, but without over-sexualizing it. In a sane society women try to attract a relationship quickly and running around in sexy clothes all the time just shows that she may be a slut and not relationship-worthy. But since women can ride the carousel for a long time, then there is no reason to play safe. Their sexuality can run wild and men need to control their appetites.
Oversexualitzation is a solid field of manipulation by the social planners, no doubt, but repression of sexuality as in the Victorian times or in Saudi Arabia just produces even bigger problems (paedophilia, zoophilia, homosexuality, psychological problems, frustrations etc.).

The simple solution is the natural one. Marry young, have a woman that is your personal slut at home, fuck your brains out at home, have children. Women then have barely a need to strut around as proud sluts until they are 35. They are at ease and happy to be modestly sexy. Also I might add – women will always arouse our sexual appetite unless they are clad in a tent and paper bag. Victorian men were going crazy over an exposed ankle.

But yes – there should be a balance in order not to stimulate the sexual appetite too much. Women are just following the trend that very smart and rich men make up for them.

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I don’t this how young women now a days do so to control men. I strongly believe this is an outcome of the consumer market / society controlling these young women. Insecure women buy – shopping therapy.

I do agree that how women dress now is ridiculous.

For example: booty shorts were daisy dukes, short shorts. Now booty shorts are underwear with pockets.

I am old. Clearly. I am very worried about the mentality of these young girls.

I was young once and at that time was completly clueless on how I made men feel. My worry is that these girls also don’t know. I can see their naivity of what they do to you men in their eyes. Unfortunately, they feel they are being playful, just having fun and not bowing to their insecurities.

However, they very much are caving into their insecurities and they don’t know that either. Their rebelling they think. Every where they turn they are being told they are not pretty enough, they are not enough and not skilled enough.

Example: if they do attract every man they are not pretty. If they have not cured a disease or answered a complex math problem that stumped everyone until her by the time she is20 then she is stupid. If she is not fighting on behalf of harmed people then she is week. If she can not swing a hammer or shoot a gun then she is not skilled.

All these come from the media to ensure these girls shop.

The fall out is half naked young naive girls behaving dangerously…and you men’s drive and mindsand strength and self worth being dragged down along with them.

It’s sad really. A sad situation for everyone.

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Great essay, Roosh. You hit some key points.

Pornification is up–while T-levels are way down.

As I type this, there’s a group of six 12-13-year old girls next to me in yoga pants and booty shorts [no perv].

Something’s not quite right.

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Their mom’s buy them that shit to wear, (with the husband’s credit card). Remember we’re a solid full 1 generation into the slutness.. to be expected.

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“Something’s not quite right”

Inded. The situation is fucked up. I’ve read that girls that young giving handjobs at the shopping mall for $$$$ to buy cigarrettes and the latest trendy fashion attire.

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The masses are in a state of constant manipulation. I don’t blame young women for their self-destructive behavior any more than I blame young men for having a strong sex drive. I blame those that benefit from the manipulation.

The solution is not more government control, since government control is part of the objective of this manipulation. The solution is a societal renaissance.

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Roosh knocks it outta the park here. Particularly the part with the Islamists. It’s obvious that MAKING women wear full-body suits is a strong abridging of people’s personal freedoms, but if you’re a hot young woman, your body is like a weapon.

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“The masses are in a state of constant manipulation” to drive consumerism and maintain our capitalist economy. Men and women who are free, aware, and healthy don’t over consume. So we need to come up with a different economic system that can generate a healthier society.

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The US is the largest debtor nation in the history of the world.
At the same time Americans, and in particular women, consume the most per capita in the world. Without Government and central banking this would not be possible. A true Capitalist society would entail that people had to live within their means, as there would be no (oversized) Government to print or borrow money to fuel excess consumption. This would go along way towards solving the worlds environmental problems, and would insulate us from economic bubbles like the one in 2008. You are in fact blaming Capitalism for the sins of Socialism and/or Croony-Capitalism.

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The sins of socialism? Can you elaborate on that please? Are you also arguing that we simply need to implement “true capitalism ” ? Why can’t we synthesize capitalism and socialism to innovate a new economic system?

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He’s right. We haven’t been a capitalist nation since the creation of the Central Bank and tampering with our money. We’ve already been living in a synthesized capitalist and socialist society.

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A “new system”
That’s classic socialist-progressivist thinking.
How about looking at history, and learning what worked and diden`t work. This is exactly what people on the left are afraid of, simply because they are proven wrong.
Do I really need to elaborate on why socialism does not work! That would take a very long post.
I think I mentioned some important points in my first post regarding the crisis of 2008. The easy Money, granted by Government via Money printing, lowering lending standards, and saving banks and Investment houses who had acted irresponsibly (Clinton-LTCM for example) led to a situation where the crooks thrived and the honest conservative guys where chased out of the industry.
But it was Big Government that created a situation where this was (and is possible). You don`t end corruption, you remove that which can be corrupted. Hence you want a minimal State, exactly what the founding fathers knew, and what we are currently rejecting, to our own downfall.

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I agree, we can do without a centralized state, bureaucracy, and cronyism. We also need to live within our means, like you said. So these changes would generate a new economic and political system never seen before. Change, like death, is inevitable. But the upsetting truth is that we lack leaders to bring about the changes we want to see.

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A moral absolutist religion is the only thing which could make a society healthy.

This is why Islam is beating western civilization. They are zealous in their beliefs and their women have lots of children. Those 2 things alone make a dominant society. The weak western man has forgotten this as he jerks off to porn and plays video games.

He and his butch women will get every dirty thing they deserve.

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I can’t sleep and I just read your comment. I also read some of your other comments and finally understood where your frustration and anger is coming from. I agree, sometimes it just feels fucking depressing to deal with so many lost, empty, mediocre people. A lot of women are stupid and annoying that’s why I only have a handful of female friends. But I cannot agree with adopting an absolutist religion. Do you have any other ideas?

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Studies have shown that people who hold religious views are generally happier.

Faith=stable societies.

Since the average person is a dullard it’s easy to see this is true. Society needs guard rails for the reckless

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Im not so sure we agree:)
First of all I would say it`s an exaggeration to claim that this has not existed before. Granted no system is ever 100 percent this or that.
Capitalism is also not an ideology, but rather what happens naturally when people trade, unchecked by Government. It`s therefore likely to have “been in place” before.
The other thing, do you really believe we can elect a “new leader” that will cut of the branch that he or she is sitting on? This has never happened before in the history of politics. The state always grows until there is a revolution or dramatic turnover of some sort.
You see this with the foundation of the US for example. I think people need to smarten up on this and start rejecting the political system as the solution to everything, and rather look to family, local community, local enterprise etc. Not voting and trying to pay as little tax as possible is a good start.
Sorry for long post!

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You’re absolutely right. Such changes won’t happen without a revolution. : )

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Not sure how to interpret that:)

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Why can’t we synthesize capitalism and socialism to innovate a new economic system

It’s called fascism and has already been tried, with poor results.

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http://www.rooshv.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/2015-4.jpg
Man oh man… What happened to a normal decent western female?
I wouldn’t touch any female on this photo with a mile long pole! MILE long!

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The women’s fashion industry has gone bonkers. In a lot of department stores in America they don’t cater to 20 something/30 something women. It’s either teens or middle aged. I’ve notice this when trying to buy shirts or dresses.

The hemline goes to the mid thigh. There is no modesty. I fix this by wearing pantyhose. The neckline on shirts and blouses are too low and I have to wear undershirts

I don’t like the overly sexual attention of men and showing less skin helps. When I dress I want to convey pretty, feminine, and cute. I get treated better by dressing nice and modestly.

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The whole idea of allure is to leave parts covered for the male mind to complete the mystery. It leaves much stronger initial attraction hooks in a man when doing so. This is something that’s been completely lost sight of with modern women. Sexy-classy vs. Sexy-slutty

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Yeah.. I mean I was crushing hard for some of those 90210 girls in the first photo. But to see them now all fully clothed and covered is surprising. If you would have asked my teenage mind to remember them, I would have said they were all dressed like Miley Cyrus, but in fact they were dressing very conservatively. It shows how a woman can be sexy no matter what she is wearing. But sluttiness and showing too much skin is a huge societal problem. I’m starting to wonder what’s so bad about Sharia law.

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Don’t just go to extremes. Don’t assume that Islam requires women to wear the burka. It doesn’t. That’s actually just a traditional regional practice that predates Islam. It was worn by upper-class women only.

The Qu’ran only directs women to dress modestly. Historically that has been interpreted according to what Muslim cultures consider modest.

It also directs men to “avert their gaze,” not to behave immodestly around women.

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That’s interesting that you say that. I always act neutrally around women in public because the things I’ve seen regarding the recent breakdown of our culture makes me very cautious of myself. I watch my back. But that is interesting, that you say that people treat you better when you dress modestly. Do you mean both men and women treat you better? Honestly, I have an internal bias towards treating modestly dressed women better, but like I said, I act neutral to avoid getting myself into deep trouble with women in our society these days.

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I get treated better by both sexes. Women are generally polite to me and less combative. Men are more gentlemanly toward me. When I wear a dress they always hold open the door for me and have manners. I dress modest by today’s standard, not in a overtly religious sense. I really just dress like a grown up. So many women in the 20-40 age range dress like teenagers in my opinion.

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I’m not surprised you get treated better. I’ve read your posts on a few articles. You sound like a really cool, real person.

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Women have no idea how to dress anymore . . . they are indoctrinated into it by the stores, like you say. There are literally no sane options.

Girls seem not to understand how little it takes to be pretty, I mean as far as explicit sex appeal. I think it’s because they have such dramatically lower sex drives than men they don’t understand that they are going nuclear for no reason. And there is no one there to tell them any better.

Literally any girl in any culture’s “traditional dress” looks better than a girl dressed in modern women’s fashion. I have seen this time and time again. I thought it was only true for my own traditional culture, but it’s true everywhere — for the Russians, the Swedes, the Germans, everyone. It’s amazing how much prettier the girls look.

Actually showing flesh is an extremely crude form of sex appeal, not at all necessary, and degrading in comparison to the alternatives.

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Even i have found myself increasingly sympathetic to the Islamic view of modesty as of late.

I generally have a sexual release once a day to keep my sex drive in check. On the rare occurrences where I abstain for a couple days, I get hypersexual and start eyeraping every decent looking woman I see. It gets especially bad in places like airports and malls where there is so much hot ass everywhere, and it becomes hard to focus on other things.

It is during those moments when I think “Wouldn’t it be nice if the women were covered up?” That way my mind (and others) wouldn’t be so fixated on lewd thoughts. Of course Western women love the power that their sexuality gives them to control men, so modest dressing is completely out of the question. But chances are there would be a lot less infidelity on both sides if modest dress was the norm.

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This also prevents you from being a man. Your power and energy increases dramatically if you stop masturbating. I tried it. But I wasn’t able to control it. Because of the way girls dress. It would just become infuriating. I would have tons of energy and I would be in a perpetual state of sexual irritation and inflammation, constantly being taunted by the women around me.

It is also a form of humiliation. Every time you walk by a naked women, your masculine instinct tells you to pounce; but you repress yourself. And eventually this turns into a form of learned helplessness.

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HOW YOU GUYS EVER WONDER HOW MALES IN TRIBES LIVE PRETTY OKAY AROUND NAKED WOMEN AND DONT SEEM TO RUN AROUND WITH BONER?

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Total true. As a normal red blooded male living in a city I always found the summers tough when trying to stay faithful to my girlfriend (I always did).

So many women are trying their hardest to look as sexually desirable as possible and expecting us to notice but not notice all at the same time.

Take Charlotte Proudman – Has professional type photo, hair and makeup done to make herself look as attractive as possible and then as attacks someone who states that she look great. Fucked up

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Love that one on the left in the ass pic, not going to lie.

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How do you spot a prostitute in Oslo in the summer?
Look for the most conservatively dressed girl you can find…no joke.

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Why is that?

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Great post.

I recently spent some time in Utah, heavy Mormon territory.
Though their myths are completely batshit – they have resulted in some pleasant societal traits.

One being modest dress for young women – clothing must cover the shoulders, no cleavage showing and no skirts above the knee. It’s not the law as in Shariah/Islamic nations, but supported by cultural pressure.
This was also the norm in middle-class America pre-1960. Not so much anymore.

The result of this is that male-female relations in momo communities seem a lot more civilized than in the rest of the US, women actually have to work on their personalities rather than rely on secondary sexual characteristics, and the men are able to concentrate better on work.

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According to a 2009 report of online porn subscriptions by State, Utah topped the list.

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Not coincidentally, a lot of financial businesses have set up shop in Mormon country. A lot of your credit card bills are being mailed there, and a whole lot of financial customer service. Ostensibly, this is because Mormons are more honest and trustworthy than the general public, but this is only possible in part because of the social structure provided by rules on women’s dress and behavior.

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There are bad men and bad women. Bad men start fights, wars etc etc. Bad women play the games we are talking about – mind games..

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Behind every bad man is a bad women egging him on.
It’s nonsense to believe women have no power behind the scenes

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It is funny that these slut walk chicks with tits that hang down to their knees are like Anti-Viagra.

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Yes, ironically their physicality is anti-boner and subsequently, anti-rape. But then again, it’s usually those who are at least risk of being rape-raped that screech the loudest about it.

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It’s not females fault if you’re distracted by what they’re wearing in regards to sexual feelings . Same principle applies if the situation were reversed with males

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You claim you are being “manipulated” by the elite to horny yet at the same you usually claim you’re being “manipulated” by the elite to become effeminate and less testosterone driven.

Isn’t that a conflict of interests for the “elite”?

Or let me guess, the “elite” manipulates you both ways so to drive you nuts (one day horny, one day effeminate), and confuse you as to their true, hidden intentions which are yet to be revealed.

Is that it?

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Both forms of ‘manipulation’ have the same social effect – the downfall of successful marriage and family.

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“A man’s behavior is far easier to control when he is in an extreme state of either sexual frustration or sexual excess. ”

Being effeminate puts him in sexual frustration. Both bases are covered while moderation and healthy sexuality is avoided.

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you may not know but the more you lost your semen the more you lost testosterone and dopamine. and with it your concentration and creativity and you become lazy. so yeah the elite use porn and sexualise the women population to lower the potential of men. why do you think porn is free?

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Pornography and masturbation saps and weakens male drive. Sexualization creates a demand that you are forbidden from actually satisfying, driving you instead to masturbation, learned helplessness, and depleted levels of dopamine and testosterone.

At a society-wide level the effects will be devastating. It’s too taboo for us to address, let alone solve.

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Mmmmm… Shannen Dougherty & Tiffani Amber Theissen ….

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there is no grand conspiracy by anyone to control men. This is just what happens when social constraints are removed and you discard traditions and social mores in the name of “feminism” and “progress” and “liberalism” that previous generations developed through best practice and experience.

The bottom line is that women have an incredibly amount of sexual power.. The male sex drive is powerful and glimpses of bare skin and large parts of the female body does have a very significant and powerful reaction in men. But women want to wield that sexual power selectively.. to rub in men’s faces.. literally… but to only grant sexual access to a limited and small percentage of “high-value,” “hawt” men.. leaving most other men out in the sexual wilderness.. This is indeed a great source of frustration.. anger.. and demoralization for a great number of men.. and previous generations realized it was best to curb a woman’s sexual power by enforcing social standards of dress and behaviour in women.. in order to balance things out a bit and reduce problems. Because if women are allowed to wield their sexual power over men without any constraint then why shouldn’t men then be allowed to use the tools they have in in their disposal .. i.e, force and manipulation to get what they want from women.. especially if they flaunt it in front of men ? Both sides decide on a kind of armistice in order to create a more level playing ground and reduce friction and problems..all that has bee discarded thanks to feminism and liberalism, and you have what you have today.. which is that women have been freed from all restrictions and obligations and allowed to wield their sexual power mercilessly over men while men have even more restrictions on their sex drives and behaviour. What a pathetic state, unfair and incredibly unbalanced state of affairs it is indeed for men today.

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Typical brainwashed westerner. The fact that you are not able to organize and plan for the next weekend doesn’t mean there are not people way cleverer and able to do so.

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its not a conspiracy because its true.

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well its not islamiss. asian indian middle east societies do this too and they have forged great empires n science.
europe and other whites were the same way too hence more productive.
plus itdesensitizes u like porn. if u see topless women all the time like in europe youll lose interest an demand more extreme to get aroused think japan n germanys porn.
while place like india middle east they see little skin they goid to go. the novelty is there for them. for overtky sexed europeans n japanese it kills the libido..sexual iverload

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If you remember 90210 on TV you likely had a huge crush on at least 2 of those beautiful girls. At the time I thought they were dirty little sluts I wanted to bang hard. Looking at them now it looks like they are dressed for church. And I’m only in my 30s, shit. How fast it goes downhill….

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Wow, fashion really sucked in the USA in the 1980s! Girls dressed way hotter at my high school in Canada at the time, just 52 miles north of the border. Many girls were into mid-thigh skirts, knit tights (what they call leggings nowadays), tight sweaters and turtlenecks, tailored-fit shirts, too small T-shirts and of course ubiquitous super-tight designer jeans. It was my favourite thing to try to view as many panties as possible in a day. Some girls would even let me stare up their skirts in class. No wonder I barely graduated!

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Roosh, love you man. But its posts like these that remind me that, more and more often…how to say this, delicately?

Your entire income history and that of every single person on RoK exist and is entirely dependent you being EXACtLY the source of the problem?

How is this article any different from any post wall bitch ephiphany book deal?

When the barbarians hit the gates and men must Draw The Line And Die, this day Is Coming in your lifetime, your post wall epiphany sex in the city shit ain’t going to save your life and not one fucking thing you are responsible for will directly save the lives of a single man at either side of me.

Shut the fuck up. Shut the site down. Read Jack donavan. Train. Maybe you’ll be a man by the time you must Draw the Line. Or know this – every man who remembers this post on that day, holding the line? Those that don’t die first Will Find You.

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And you think you’ll be saved? Men want you on their team?

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Two questions with a rhetorical flare, well done. I will answer both, but first: Do you know how many man you’ve inspired? Including myself, and I own everything you’ve ever written, with the exception of your Canada talks (yet)

There is some older wisdom. When I was a child, I did childish things. As an adult, I put the childbehind.

So, to answer your questions – will I be saved? Yes, but by myself, my hand, my mastery, and a good death. With brother on either side. I have no delusions as to the direction the world turns.

What do men do? We draw the line and hold it. What do I do now? As the oldest living man in my family, I live the example my father, grandfathers, and godfather set. I have no children, yet I am an uncle and am a strong male inflance in the lives of boys in my family.

My nephew got his father back for his 12 birthday last week. His father took that heroes journey out of the muck of pointless indulgences, as you and.all of us are, and discovered that being a father and a husband is the better way. He and my sister are remarrying, and he is a man worthy of respect.

When giggles hit the wall, she cashed in and justified her wasted life. Please man….don’t make her mistake.

Neomasculentiy is a grand discussion, but it will be yet a broken.chess piece after Ragnarok. You know this.

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I will die with my brothers, defending what we bought with blood. Your writings, their recent turn towards self reflection and emptyness of pleasure, begain taking depth to me. This very recent superfisicial turn, its just my opinion, I don’t even know you personally, but I would loose a lot of respect for you if you end in the great cop out.

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And finally, yes, men are with me on our team. Cause that’s really what were doing out here, isn’t it? building our warbands, biding time, challenging each other to grow in strength and power.

Take up middle age with us, and continue to inspire.

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Great points but I blame the ESPN/ lazy boy jock nation for all of mens apathy in not taking care of the basics like paying attention to local and not so local political events happening right under their nose. ALL of the stuff we talk about on ROK and the manosphere comes down to men not doing their job. We, as in men cant be bothered with very important things that the “progressives” and SJW’s hijacked to their benefit. We have no one to blame but the fantasy football fucks, the video game nerds and pretty much the ESPN sports 24 hours a day frat jock douchebags that all dropped the ball when it comes to taking part in the direction of the country.

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The yoga pant epidemic is ridiculous. These damn women wear these things showing they’re incredible asses in public and expect not to get approached? Fuck that ! I approach every fucking one of them and they’re usually flattered. I end up dating very very few of them but Jesus….how could a man with any testosterone in his body not approach a fine woman in yoga pants? Or at least not go right home and beat off to it. It’s ridiculous.

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Yoga pants are boring. I prefer them in tight jeans or dresses with heels.

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When the short shorts phenomena started when I was in high school, I knew it was doing something to my brain I couldn’t quite understand.
I’d been trying to put it all together for a while but you hit the head Roosh! So with this in mind, is it not completely irresponsible of parents to let their young children going out wearing the skimpy clothes they do?

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This is something that’s been nagging at my brain for quite some time. The way men are sidelined by sex, technology and prescription drugs is very advantagous to the powers that be. Think about it, if men are busy chasing girls, abusing painkillers and/or playing video games do you think the chances of a revolution or even just having general concern over current events increases or decreases? Roosh, do think its possible there is an elaborate agenda to demotivate men?

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Ill take the present day hot girls in yoga pants any day over the awful fashions of the 80 or 90’s like mom jeans and padded shoulders on womens clothing.Talk about trying to compete with men in the workplace. Chicks wanted to look as capable as men even in the 80’s. A lot of people wax poetic about the Reagan years but its funny how selective our memory gets after time wipes away the inconvenient truths like the homeless explosion since Reagan cut funding for psych/ mental rehab facilities. Overnight the mentally ill, dangerous and unstable were forced out and onto the streets. That was the beggining of the homeless nation underground we have now. Dont get me started on the nightmares I had due to cold war nuclear grandstanding the president of Russia and U.S.A had going up until the 90’s. The reagan years also boosted many counter cultures in reaction to the presidency. Hardcore punk probably would have never taken off if it wasnt for him and his cronies. I work out at a gym and I pray this trend never ends. I dont know what i’ll do if yoga pants go out of style. http://www.girlsinyogapants.com/

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” Dont get me started on the nightmares I had due to cold war nuclear grandstanding the president of Russia and U.S.A had going up until the 90’s”

I’m convinced that the world was more stabile during the cold wat than now.

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The only thing that puzzles me is how so little important work gets done in the societies which cover up women the most.

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dude, the “todays” picture are a vast exaggeration and not realistic. No one thinks this is todays fashion unless they are completely disconect from reality.

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“. No one thinks this is todays fashion unless they are completely disconect from reality.”

Then how can you account for that photo? I’m sure it was not a photo that was produced for Roosh’s websites.

But I hear what you are saying, maybe it is not so often to see some trollop wearing a shirt with bold caps that say “twerk” but one can be assurred that the virtue of today’s female is essentially non-existant now.

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Girls/women MIMIC popular female celebs/singers/actresses. Monkey see monkey do. Males do that too by mimicking the appearance and behavior of popular male celebs or people they idolize. (I tend to dress and act like Bond when going out)

In the early 1980’s, styles were more modest because the celebs dressed more modestly. The rise of a celeb-obsessed society with 24 hr DirecTV and Internet/social media changed all that. Look at old IMDB pics of movie premiers from the early 90’s and compare them to now. Huge difference. Men now wear power suits to signal high status/wealth, while young girls wear skimpy outfits to signal their sexual availability/rebelliousness.

Every chick in her late teens/early 20’s wants to look like a Jenner/Kardashian/Rihanna. The word “diva” is an understatement.

So it’s no surprise that the women as exemplified under “Today’s Fashion” are the ones who get pumped and dumped. Sure I’ll lay a slut on any given night/day, but would not want to stick around to deal with her various issues both psychological and probably physical. Why bother.

Relevant: check out work by French philosopher René Girard on mimicry and status-chasing behavior.

See also: Roosh’s writing about how women have reduced themselves to sexual commodities. Commodities are to be used, churned and burned.

Using investor speak, I would be SHORT Western oversocialized, hypersexualized women as they have overpriced themselves through extreme narcicissm, and LONG the rarest type of women who are their polar opposite: feminine, demure, modest, supportive, relaxed. But good luck finding those types. That’s the challenge. Also: think about ways to capitalize from female narcissism. You don’t have to build “the next Instagram” but you can make money off women as they now spend the most money. For example, start an ecommerce site that sells leggings and other frivolous female-focused items. I am personally looking into that option for 2016.

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This is the one thing that really infuriates me. There are a lot of conspiracy theories out there but this is the one conspiracy that is real. And guys will never admit it, though I’m not totally sure why. I think it’s because they’re some combination of stupid and afraid—too stupid to realize what’s in their interests, and that they’re being manipulated, and too afraid to go against what they’re told to accept as normal.

I think I’m especially sensitive to it because I’m always trying to get important work done. Everything I do depends on a high level of focus and concentration. Yet there are whores wearing crop tops and tights even in a university library, in a classroom. And we’re all supposed to act like this is normal or acceptable.

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Try growing up on a southern California beach. Young women in bikinis literally everywhere. The grocery store… walking or skating down the sidewalk… riding bikes… the library…

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All true. Of course one of the main response from brain dead and brainwashed western women is “If men learned to control themselves then I wouldn’t have to cover up” or “Why should I cover up just because you can’t control your sexual desires?!” and “I wear SUPER TIGHT Yoga pants because they’re comfortable”.. right, because there was NO such thing as comfortable clothing before Yoga pants right?

No, there was no such thing as TIGHT comfortable clothing before then that could be soo tight to show their snaps, camel toe, ass cracks and every curve of their hips, ass cheeks, legs, calves and more.

Of course todays retarded western women think they should be able to walk around naked, bend over as much as they want without having to worry about getting groped, felt up or raped, it’s only because men are “evil” that they have to worry about this.

Such nonsensical comments only highlight the SHEER stupidity and blindness of women and further shows how they live in TOTAL DISCONNECT from reality on virtually every level and only seek to “validate” their illusions and fantasy worlds then love to live in.

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I have not have sex for over 10 yrs !!!
Women I meet in Toronto, Canada either hate sex, men or both.
Unless you look like G. Clooney and drive a nice car, girls do not even spit on your shoes.

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Omg… Are you serious? Is this a real website?? Your excuse is just a cop out. “I am more Horny because women dress more provocative now than before” if you don’t want to be disturbed by woman’s immorality don’t look…. Lol

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THIS ENTIRE WEBSITE IS DEDICATED TO THE MANIPULATION OF THE MALE SEX DRIVE

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your best article roosh , your best

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Many of Roosh’s “followers” (readers and posters) are male sluts, or “manwhores” who have no business judging women whatsoever. Take a look in the mirror and you will find the reason for society’s problems. It is YOURSELVES. Many young people, male and female alike, make the mistake of seeking new love through eroticism. But for the mature, once you have children it is time to re-evaluate your priorities and create a stable environment. Not for Roosh followers though who skip out of the country to avoid responsibility and commitment to stability though. Roosh followers continue to be manwhores into their old age. Roosh is obviously obsessed with sex and probably will be until he dies.