How To Bang Argentine Girls: The Final Chapter

There are a few things I learned upon my return trip to Cordoba, Argentina.

1. A white Argentine girl is harder to bang than one with a little bit of brown in her. These brown girls are more similar to Colombians in the work it takes to get with them. And I must stress similar because there is a difference. In Colombia girls flake right before the date, but in Argentina they do stupid shit well before. For example, in Argentina a girl will throw her number at me and then when I get her on the phone to make plans she’ll say, “Sorry but I have a boyfriend,” or something equally retarded. They just wanted to see if I’d ask them out or not. If you’re doing it by text then she simply won’t respond after a couple back-and-forths, no matter how much affection she gave you previously, making asking girls out here a lose/lose dilemma which game theory doesn’t have obvious answers to.

Many times it’s happened where a girl responded very enthusiastically when I messaged her, with replies that included exclamation points, but then simply gave me radio silence after I tried to set plans. I wanted to get an insiders look at this phenomenon, so I went through the steps of making plans with one of my Spanish speaking partners with the intention to disappear on her when it was time to finalize the time, like Argentine girls did to me.

She texted me on a day I had mentioned I might be free, asking if I could meet up later in the evening. The plan was to simply not respond and leave her hanging, but I just couldn’t do it. It’s too mean to leave someone out there like that so I eventually replied (with an excuse, but at least she got a response). It’s almost evil how disrespectful Argentine girls can be. While we do see issues like flakiness in Colombia and even Brazil, at least those girls have the consideration to let you down easy. It seems like in Argentina the girls have a goal to make you feel like shit, at multiple points in the seduction.

2. In the U.S. to upgrade from a 5 or 6 to a 7 takes a marginal amount of work. But in Argentina it’s significantly harder. There are the very cute girls who take quite a bit of time (and luck), and then bangable girls who are similar to Colombians in terms of difficulty. For example, I get looks and approach invitations from 5’s and 6’s all day, but the 7’s and up only look with their peripheral vision, if at all.

3. If the club you’re going to has a web site or can be googled, you shouldn’t go there. Alright that’s an extreme rule, but you don’t want to go to trendy places frequented only by “white” Argentines who think they’re European. Experiment with trashy bars and clubs.

4. Because your first date with an Argentine girl will most likely be with her friends, the appearance of the girl you approach doesn’t matter much because odds are she’ll have at least one cute friend. Argentine girls younger than 30 don’t like doing one-on-one dates right off the bat like in America. So what happens is she invites you out to a big group and then you can play the field and turn on the charm for the girl you really like. Stay on a friendly vibe with the initial girl you met in order to make a painless switch. In other words, don’t lead her on because if she likes you too much then her friends will back off.

On my first day in Cordoba an ugly girl at the mall was eye fucking me. I wanted to practice my Spanish so I opened her, and within five minutes she had my number. She called me later that night and invited me to a birthday party that had many girls cuter than her. There was a sad moment when she realized I didn’t like her, but I was able to meet prettier women that I wouldn’t have otherwise. The girl you approach during the day, for instance, will be merely a gateway to more poon. It’s best to do these day approaches on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday, to get invited out later those nights while her feelings for you are still strong. Two downsides to this strategy: (1) You may not like her friends or they may have boyfriends, and (2) Who wants to regularly approach ugly girls?

5. Cordoba has a lot of beautiful girls because of the huge university population, but when you take that away, like I got to see on Easter weekend when the students went home, the locals are of equal beauty to other Argentine cities. What happens is pretty girls from small towns in surrounding states come to Cordoba to study, and then go back to where they came from or move to Buenos Aires afterwards. Cordoba has that wow factor when you go to a club, but most of those girls are under 23 and frankly, not yet ready for the type of easy sexual relationship you probably want. Even doing simple things with them will give you grey hair.

6. Like I described in A Dead Bat In Paraguay while observing my Italian friend Beppe, you can’t escalate on an Argentine girl like you can with Western sluts. You have to be 50% more passive than usual (assuming you’re as aggressive as I’ve taught you), and let the girl do a lot of work, either by messaging you first, inviting you out, or asking you to come to the bathroom to do drugs. The main idea here is for her to initiate the escalation move and then you finish it off.

Unfortunately many Argentine girls will not put in any work, so you’ll get “rejected” when the girl simply does nothing. Pushing the interaction hard or going direct only works on desperate girls (i.e. ugly), and boy do those desperate girls skip out on game playing to get laid! Note this passive type of game is not optimal in Brazil or Colombia. In Argentina you’re punished for being a man who goes about getting what he wants, which is probably why so many Argentine guys are weird and creepy, or have just given up on women completely to devote their lives to rock music and pot smoking. Your best option is to sit there, be cool as fuck, get her laughing, and just hope for the best. In America the game is like a mountain, difficult at times but with a visible goal that is attainable for those who train hard. In Argentina game is like a cloud, impossible to grasp.

I have to put some things in perspective. When I first visited Cordoba, I was coming from the dregs of South America (Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia). I was blown away by the appearance of the women without having the twelve months of experience that I later gained in Colombia and Brazil. While I still think Cordoba has some of the most beautiful women on the continent, they’re pretty lame, insecure, and immature. And even when they get older, a Cordobesa in her late 20’s has the maturity of a Brazilian or Colombian in her early 20’s. Sure their appearance is splendidly feminine, but they are missing the sexy vibe of Brazilian and Colombian women, and definitely the dancing ability of the Brazilians. On the bright side they seem to pick up on sarcastic humor a lot better than other South American women because of their love of American television shows.

7. Many guys told me that once you get an Argentine girl out of her city and social circle, she’ll be much more tolerable. I find this to be the case with two Argentine girls I’ve fooled around with outside of Argentina, one in the U.S. and the other in Brazil. They were very easy to make plans for, hardly flaked, and didn’t play psychosexual games. Therefore it may be easier to get your Argentine flag outside of Argentina. I hear there are a lot of Argentine girls in American ski resorts.

8. Argentina is the only country where the quality I can get is lower than in the United States. I’m talking about a timeline of one or two months. Sure if I lived there forever I’d land some decent girls, but why bother when there’s this big country that starts with a B right next door, where women have healthy attitudes towards sex and like wearing high heels instead of dirty Converse shoes or cheap boots.

9. I don’t want to make it sound like you can’t get laid there—I know tons of guys who have and even a few who got one night stands. But compared to other places, the amount of work you have to put in for something average is insanely high. I’ve never seen a gringo with an Argentine girl who was higher than a 6, which means I’ve never been jealous of something a gringo has pulled. But in Brazil it’s happened a few times.

10. My Argentine lady friend says that once you have sex with an Argentine, the floodgates open, but that’s how it is in Colombia and Brazil as well. Argentine girls think this compensates for their pre-sex craziness, but they obviously haven’t banged girls from other countries. Argentine women are simply not vale la pena (worth the pain) that it takes to get them in bed. Stop by Buenos Aires to get your flag by visiting some lame Irish pubs, where the women are more progressive, older, and speak English, then get the hell out and head to Colombia or Brazil. Honestly even that may be too much of a waste. You miss out on nothing by not banging an Argentine girl. Nothing.

Argentina is a very nice country, but trying to crack their women is a waste of life. I don’t plan on ever returning.

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Armchair Theoretician
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Good read. Yes, the more european blood an argentina has the more weird and difficult she will be. I think especially the porteñas are a bit narcisstic as well. They like attention and give back nothing. Psychos.

Though, in Argentina I saw a lot of ugly to regular guys (Argies) with stunning beauties. A few were rich asses, most were certainly not.
Social circle and contacts matter big time. Roosh’s game doesn’t seem to work because they don’t know what game is, ha ha.

There I never found it too difficult to bed a chick that was already interested in me. But yes, argentinas are a bit weird in the head – “histericas”. Playing it cool, aloof and not giving them the attention they crave so much might work wonders.

There is some truth to the fact that exotic looking latinas have a crush for light skinned gringos. Poor Roosh is getting a hard time down there. But I think you will do VERY well with the blondes in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe.

Ever thought about visiting “your” countries Turkey and Iran? Awesome beauties there from what I heard. Iran is an islamic police state but it does have a very liberal underground scene with the youth. The youth loves the western party lifestyle. Teheranis are well educated and many speak decent english.

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And u still virgin? Look maybe argentinian girls are wierd but at least we arent sluts like american girls, pelotudo

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Amsterdam has more sluts than American girls combined. American girls pour their passion and hearts out too much. Get your facts straight. Petero

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How do u know american girls are sluts you cant get visa 😂😂😂

You think your better than u are. Your still spanish like mexians and everyone else, but try to pretend to be white 😂😂😂 concide pr*cks 🤣

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I’m from south America, born in Uruguay and live in Australia for forty years. I’m of Spanish/ Italian type looks and when I arrived in Australia, Australians always commented how ”beautiful” I was, almost every anglo australian men was in love with my looks and my ”persona” but I’m not an ”easy” woman I don’t like being ‘used’ or ‘bang’ as that man above write in his article. Most south American women don’t like or appreciated being used only for sex and for the value of few drinks or an average dinner plate. That is the case in USA or Europe and Australia where the ”blonde” women are seen or are famous for men buying drinks for them in the bar and like that these women can be ”bang” at a cheaper price. Now I’m married to an Australian man, and I never let any man to use me for a few drinks. For what I read in many internet sites men from all over the world make comments about going to Russia eastern Europe England USA and is very easy for them to ”bang” women over there in those countries, but in many south americans countries girls and women we have nice families and religious beliefs and going to bed with and strange foreign man only because he needs to ”bang” a woman or a girl is not our ”style” or our customs.

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When I was at my youngest and hottest, I could not get laid to save my life in Turkey. It’s not that kind of culture. There are gorgeous women, but when I went to meet one in her town, just outside of istanbul, her brother and literally all his friends in town followed us around, until we ended up at the bus machine, and I was waved away and goodbye. In the city of Istanbul, you can do better, but then you’re dealing with cosmopolitan rich women, many of whom have a giant attitude. Plus now, the nation is in disorder. Iran, are you nuts? Yeah, a foreign guy is going to get a one night stand in Iran, and then what?

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Gotta hand it to you for going through that brutal experience for the rest of us. Sounds as if they just seek validation and not much else. “I’m good enough to attract an American. I’m satisfied, and will stick with Juan.” Shame. All that beautiful poon going to waste.

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“I’ve never seen a gringo with an Argentine girl who was higher than a 6.”

I did. I saw 9’s and 10’s… with gringos that were 9 or 10 themselves, ha. Still, social circle matters a hell of a lot. An argie friend of mine is not really attractive (5-6) but he’s a badass alpha guy. He has pulled models – but is also happy with a 5. Go figure. :whatever:

Argentina is an awesome country. Great nature, great food, great culture… just don’t come exclusively for the girls. Bring the girlfriend you already have for most fun.

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You have to admit, though, that part of this is because you don’t look white. Being in South America Argentinian girls are EXTREMELY snobbish about looking and being white and the good looking girls probably have a HUGELY hard time getting with a non-white looking guy, however charming and attractive.

Not that it matters, but I actually think you’re good looking, but you look like a non-white South America or non-white Middle Easterner – you look like you just about have no European blood in you – and in some places this is simply too great a handicap to overcome.

I would love to hear write up of Argentina from someone who looks very white and European and see if they got the same results as you. It would be interesting.

I’ve learned that you must look carefully at the person who does the write up before you come to conclusions about how you will do in any given country.

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There are a lot of women in Argentina going out with brown skinned guys and it is fact tghe white guys the ones having problems for having a girl. Yes…whites also suffer racism!!! So what your point?

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How’s that he doesn´t look “white” to you?. Geez, that word has lost meaning. What is “white” to you? A blonde german? There are different kinds of “white”. He looks spanish,

He has that on his side, Argies don’t really like gringos, they think they are “desabridos”, tasteless, pale, without eyebrows or lashes, and get red as a tomato when they try to get tan. I’m not kidding, part of their beauty is their mixed genes (italian, french, spanish and sometimes some native blood gives them gorgeous eyes full of thick lashes or a great complexion)

On the other hand, and this is for you, Roosh, Argentina has beautiful mediterranean looking girls, and men. But “listen” to yourself….”I’ve never seen a gringo with an Argentine girl who was higher than a 6″

Nice, so girls are like porn movies, i’ll give them a grade.

They ignore you because you are a jerk, you won’t “waste” your time (your words) with a girl that has some self respect and doesn’t fuck you the night she just met you. You don’t care about learning anything from them, not even like a friend. Have you shown some interest in their interests? Have you tried to speak spanish instead of complaining they don’t speak your precious english? You are right about these girls having a great “jerk radar”.They really do.

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You’re SO right… Read my comment above. I’m an Argentinian girl and you totally nailed it

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Roosh doesnt look Spanish and he isn’t good looking. He looks three times as middle eastern as I do, and I’m half kurdish and half Scandinavian. BTW, the Spanish are some of the most racist people around, partially because their country is next to Arab land. In my experience, the southern mediterranean darker women consider it a score to land a light-haired guy, although I have met some hot Italians. In general, I’ve always done better with light-haired women wherever, although I’ve dated some hot brunettes, but mostly in the US, not in Europe.

South America is well known to have a giant race issue between white and native. The light-wkinned racists want to think they are above the ;lower’ people plus hispanics and catholics are mentally ill socially anyway. I want to think I could do well in S America, but It hink I’d do better where women have sex with less guilt trips, and that is northern europe.

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Turkey really does have beautiful girls, Roosh, and Istanbul is as suave, sophisticated, and sexy a European capital as you could wish – better than some European cities in Europe proper – with perhaps just enough of a seedy undercurrent to make things fun and interesting.

I remember having a brief chat with a shop keeper who mentioned that he thought Western women were so fat and ugly, compared to the svelte and well turned out Istanbulians. He was quite right.

Strangely, though, for some reason the upper-class guys in Istanbul tend to look, well, European, for some reason, so your looks might go against you there as well. Irony of ironies.

No, Scandivian and Anglo-Saxon countries – Australia? – seem your best bet. I would stay FAR AWAY from Eastern European countries – Eastern Euros do NOT appreciate the dark, Middle Eastern look, they like the European look, and anyone who is telling you otherwise is setting you up for a big disappointment.

Good luck whatever you do.

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Eastern Europeans like the European look? Maybe 1%-3%. That is absolutely wrong from experience. I have dark hair, dark eyes and my mothaf*ckin Tinda be blowin up the second I step off the plane at Sheremetyevo as them hoes be hollerin at a nigga. So back on up. Bc Meditteranean with the big D’s is where it be at.

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Insightful, Thanks.
I can’t wait to hit Columbia & Brazil!

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i was told exactly this by 2 a brazilian guy and his colombian friend at a party this past week. both were in their 40’s and had been through quite the rotation in life.
thanks for the info, as always.

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“Many times it’s happened where a girl responded very enthusiastically when I messaged her, with replies that included exclamation points, but then simply gave me radio silence after I tried to set plans”

I’m having the exact same problem with this Spanish-speaking chick from Mexico that I met a couple of weeks ago. Shit makes no sense to me.

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“Argentina is a very nice country, but trying to crack their women is a waste of life. I don’t plan on ever returning.”

Sounds like travel hangover is setting in.

I give you 30 days in DC before you are begging to talk to a fly Argentinian girl who may/ may not flake on you.

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“I would stay FAR AWAY from Eastern European countries – Eastern Euros do NOT appreciate the dark, Middle Eastern look, they like the European look”

Yeah, there are Polish women who are into darker complexioned guys but they’re often lashing out at their families.

On the other hand, he’d have no chance whatsoever in Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary (and probably Romania) becuase he’d be taken for being gypsy (easily least popular people in Eastern Europe). Bulgaria has enough of the Turkic look for him to get by. In ex-Soviet countries he’d be pegged as Caucasian or Central Asian (just about as bad as gypsy).

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This is about dating ot race 🙃🙃🙃🙂🙂🙂🙂

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I know an Argentine who’s fond of saying that the reason there are so many psychiatrists in Buenos Aires is that all the women are so crazy.

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yes we are crazy and u are an asshole 😀

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not so sure if he is an asshole but indeed argentinean women are crazy…..

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Hey how are u ?

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I’d like to see someone with a more nordic look write about his experiences too. Would things be easier for me being 21 and looking very (very) scandinavian? Would having less of an backpacker/hippy and more of a “preppy”/sophisticated look be an advantage?

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Well, being a sex symbol would definitely help.

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I agree with some of the others, would love to read about a nordic dude (with good game) write about his experiences. I’d be willing to bet he would do very well in Argentina (and South America in general).

Also, I would love to hear people’s experiences in the near east. On the one hand I figure if a guy has solid game he would clean house (what percentage of dudes are going to be running good game in that area of the world? Has to be quite low). On the other hand, considering the fact that the culture there is pretty sexually repressed and closed off it might end up being extremely difficult.

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Argentines don’t dig very blonde people. Unless they can get tan. Most nordic gringos are pale, or red when the sun comes out. They have no eyebrows, no lashes, …maybe nice colour of eyes sometimes, nothing more. They prefer mediterranean guys. Spanish, Italian or French from the south. Being a white and yellow stick…doesn’t get you anywhere. They have plenty of blonde guys , and girls, in Argentina (it’s probably the “whitest” country of southamerica). Gringos are no novelty, if we’re talking about looks, of course.

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Great post. I went to Argentina for a week the first time, and got nowhere with my approaches, day or night, with one exception – a 19-year-old Brazilian who was also on vacation. (I should have banged but alas my game was not so good then.)

In any case, just compare BA with Rio and it’s simple – Rio has great beach culture, while BA is a metropolis on a dirty old port. Cool city in other ways, but you can’t beat the party atmosphere of Rio or the sensuousness of its women.

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the dirty port of Rio is a old as that of Buenos Aires

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Any new tips on where to go in brazil? Planning a flight in the next day or so. Young America student from Cali!

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“with replies that included exclamation points” That happened to me, and I thought afterwards “its just a button on her cell, she was most likely yawning when she pressed it”..

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13: My roommate met a norwegian while backpacking in the middle east that claimed to be cleaning up with the locals. (He was tall and handsome, not sure if he spoke arabic/another local language) Anyway, I’m sure there is a niche in some (perhaps more touristy) locales and milieus. And for those girls a foreigner might be preferable because they don’t think she is a filthy whore just because he got to fuck her before marriage marrying her first. If you gamed locals to openly and aggressively you might experience some hostility from the locals tough. Especially, I imagine, if you are american

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@Richard, yes the Argentinians are really damn snobby and consider themselves Europeans, so looks do matter. Although, over here in Rio and Buzios “dark” Brazilian guys pick them up like no tomorrow.

That’s the problem with the flag mentality. You try to track it and waste a lot of your energy on something that’s not worth it. I’ve been to Colombia and the girls are nice (got my flag), but Brazilians are much better. The success I’ve had in Brazil with the girls who appreciate a cave man-aggressive-direct game is fine with me, so then why change your game style for some mediocre girls who play endless games?

Como você diz, “isso não vale a pena”

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no brazilian dark guy has pick me up still…and he wont either

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13: btw the turks do have a secular/liberal segment of the population in Istanbul (and perhaps other big cities), lebanon used to be known as a pretty liberal place.. there are christian populations in israel/palestine, egypt and lebanon (and other places) that might whose women be easier than muslims

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“I would stay FAR AWAY from Eastern European countries – Eastern Euros do NOT appreciate the dark, Middle Eastern look, they like the European look, and anyone who is telling you otherwise is setting you up for a big disappointment.”

Interesting. I heard black guys do well in EE, don’t know about Arab types, but going more east, it seems that dark people have a hard time in Russia where white Skinheads regularly KILL black people and beat up darker types.

A friend of mine is the archetype latin lover. Not tall but athletic and very good looks, good clothes, native spanish and super tight killer game. A natural. He pulls whatever he wants. Almost banged a former national Miss in Colombia but didn’t only due to logistical reasons. He cleans house wherever he goes: Latin America, Western Europe, USA, Asia so far… you name it. You either have it or you don’t really have it.

Gringo looks can give you an edge in Latin America, like I experienced. But you need tight game to get the results you want. The only place where people with zero game may still get laid easily is Cuba. It’s also home of the hottest, horniest sex performers you’ll ever encounter. Even girls said the same of cuban guys. But the place itself just sucks and if you don’t know some spanish you will have to go the semi-pro p4p route (which isn’t really expensive anyway and may actually save you time and hassle). The better your language skills, the better you will perform. The better you look, the less game skills you’ll need. But combine good looks with great game and you get an unstoppable killer package. Always and everywhere.

Imagine a model good looking blonde, blue-eyed, tall westerner in his late 20’s with bodybuilder muscles, SUPER TIGHT GAME, successful millionaire entrepreneur, university education, designer clothes and a Ferrari under his ass… Go down from there to see where you stand. :laugh:

But improving your LOOKS as much as you can and learning/practicing/tightening GAME may be all you need to score with the girls of your dreams.

Forget about working your ass off for status shit like fancy cars, fancy titles and big money to throw around. That’s not necessary and much less so in the Third World.

Roosh, thanks for all your great advice and insight in website and books!

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Black is light years away from Middle Eastern. Black guys have cut notorious swaths through Scandinavia at times, just like they did in my home town in the USA. I even heard of an American black guy impregnating so many women in Denmark it turned into a national scandal. Women want to fuck a black guy a few times in their lives, and the guys know it. Some are damn big as well, and strong. It’s a no brainer for women, though many won’t go there.

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I’ve traveled (and lived) all throughout South America and I agree with Roosh.

First off, I’m European looking and my experience was the same as Roosh. So let’s quit the Middle Eastern theory.

Argies are the toughest girls I’ve come across. I had some AWFUL blowouts there and I don’t get blown out anywhere. Then I got to a point where I thought – who gives a fuck – these girls are lame. Yeah, they are beautiful but they are usually hipsters. I hate their attitude (they are despised throughout Latin America), their snobbish air, and do they have any sexuality????

Argie girls are known for being “hysterica” which means crazy.

I have had several experiences with Colombians and Brazilians. Waaaaaay better. Affectionate, no games (at least with Braz), sexual, and secure.

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I got blown out loads of times, especially in B.A. Then I learnt some Spanish and did a lot better in Cordoba and Salta. Don’t know if it has got something to do with me learning a bit of the lingo, or if the girls are just friendlier in the second tier cities. Anyway, one evening in Cordoba I made out with 4 different girls in a club and took the cutest one of them to a love hotel (actually two love-hotels, but both were full, damn..!), so these figures kinda tell me that it IS vale la pena.

Sure they are bit weird, but they are girls for christ sake – it is to be expected!

And the Quilmes beer is cheap and awesome, and so is the BBQ.

Argentina is definitely worth checking out.

And yes, I got the ‘scandinavian look’

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Roosh, you sound angry and bitter.

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a relative of mine cracked an argentinian and got married to her, she was about 15 years younger than him, very hot and attractive but he met her in Spain. he eventually got divorced after several years because she only brought headaches into the relationships (mindgames, family problems on her side) and it wasn’t worth the hassle anymore.

I hear alot about Argentinian’s sens of arrogance and superiority over other latin americans.

what is your next step roosh? you gotta hit Spain with all its easy expatriates.

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proud to be a lebanese btw! my type of women…forget scandinavians!

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who would make a better girlfriend — brazilian or argentine girls? i wonder if the up front coldness of arg girls means when they fall for you they are more loyal/less likely to fuck around.

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I wonder about that too.

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me too, wich is why I’m not completely turned off by these stories

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(of hardships)

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I can see u r butt hurt big time!

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@ Armchair Theoretician,

I absolutely love mulatas, could you break down the cuban scene a bit more?

How are the girls, not all just p4p?

How is nightlife?

I hear they have a second financial system for tourists? Is it expensive?

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LMFAO, Roosh, I’m with the first guy: it seems as though you’ve suffered so the rest of us don’t have to! Haha, I do feel kinda sorry for you, though.

Well, I’ve been learning Spanish for about 3 years now, I’m nearly fluent, so it looks like I’ll be hitting up Colombia first and foremost, maybe Peru, Costa Rica, Panama, and Chile, and staying the FUCK away from Argentina! Ha!

It does kinda piss me off now that it looks like I’m going to HAVE to learn Portuguese and I probably would’ve been better off just doing that in the first place instead of Spanish…oh well, Portuguese is only spoken in two countries anyway (not including a couple small, irrelevant former colonies) whereas Spanish is much more widely spoken and therefore FAR more useful, plus it’s a romance language so the fact that I speak it should make learning Portuguese infinitely easier when I get around to doing it.

I really think your next stop needs to be Scandinavia and Western Europe, with -maybe- a bit of dallying in Eastern Europe. You could also try Asia, but I’d honestly be far more interested in hearing about Europe, and I think I’m neatly on the side of the majority on that.

Cheers, and thanks again for all you do for us (BTW, when are we going to get that Colombia guide/report???),

Shaman

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lol… you’re as bitter and butt hurt as I was when I left.

In hindsight, classic game is not the way to go. Social circle is. My friend stayed behind and has been living there another 2-3 months.

Let’s just put it this way… after I left, he decided to take a break from the clubs and hit some tango classes.

Simply from going to these tango classes, he’s already banged two of the female instructors and is regularly invited to house parties every week where he’s banged 2 more portenas. He didn’t even mean to fall into their social circle, he just started getting invited.

Results-wise, attending two cheap tango classes dominated 25-30 nights of cold approach…

My friend’s game isn’t even that great… basically your typical “cool guy” game + the fact he speaks Spanish well…

Anyway, food for thought… That and a few of my experiences in Europe recently (Spain is just as cold and distant as Argentina, if not moreso) has got me re-evaluating my travel strategies.

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“Portuguese is only spoken in two countries anyway (not including a couple small, irrelevant former colonies) whereas Spanish is much more widely spoken and therefore FAR more useful”

I used to think the same way. That is before I visited Brazil. Of course more countries speak Spanish than Portuguese, but Brazil alone is worth knowing Portuguese.

I’ve been all over Central and South America, and most of the countries are shitty, poor, and just worth to pass by. Brazil is on another level.

Brazil is the ONLY country that I can honestly consider living in for a bit of time.

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“btw the turks do have a secular/liberal segment of the population in Istanbul (and perhaps other big cities), lebanon used to be known as a pretty liberal place..”

That might come as a surprise but Kabul had quite a lot of miniskirts in the eighties… 🙂

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Roosh,

Not surprised to see this post from you.

-You’re comparing Argentina to the rest of latin America. It would be more accurate to compare to Italy or Spain. These are not latinas, they have Italian blood and culture. Don’t believe me? I dare you to try to find rice and beans ANYWHERE.

-You’ve never seen a gringo with an Argie girl higher than a 6? I know I have…plenty.

-Your advice is right from a cold approach perspective, which everybody knows is the worst way to pick-up in Argentina.

Overall, however, you’re probably right in that it doesn’t vale la pena.

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OMG. What a bunch of retards. We are not latinas?? What is latina for you? Latin is not a race but a language root. Latin= ancient italic language, originally spoken by the latins in latium and ancient Rome. The shameless display of ignorance you show may lead you to the reasons why you can’t bang here. I’m sorry if my lack of desperation for a visa to your overrated country is not high as the rest of latin america. Most of us can get one through our ancestors. And yeah, if I’m going to date a “gringo”, he better be WHITE. And the only reason why I’m deigning to comment on this moron thread, is because no one would bang me… despite I’m smart, fun, hot and have huge natural boobs. Please, bang me … please HAHA. TEENY-WEENY DICKHEADS

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Finally a girls perspective, everyone stop talking all this nonsense back and forth and ask this intelligent girl what the deal is and and with race. I am working in Argentina in June in Buenos Aires so like to pick up the soctal scale there, I’m surprised by this post that they are flakes and crazy, I met and taught argentinian girls English for fun around Europe when I was travelling and in spain and I not to sound cheesy but really fell for thier passion, one girl kept following me around being so warm and touchy and so warm and forward even though she was underage, I was taken back and gobsmacked and retreated each time, but at the same time thier eyes and warmness really touched me because I’m from Manchester, probably the coldest in personality wise city in the world and I fell for the spirit of south America. I’m part Irish so I’m pale, blue eyes and that pale look never got me anywhere in manchester while dark coloured and middle eastern come over and get it all but the argentinian girls I talked to shocked me I couldn’t tell if it was some kind of Venus fly trap to lure me in and to then get me in trouble, I was literally running away from this one underage girl and I’m 25 but they were so friendly and warm and open, that’s what I fall for with people of Latin heritage after a lifetime in a cold city, but if you are still reading this can you tell me if it’s just a game like roosh said to get you to cone closer and then trap you or shut you off. Some girls I liked but emotionally just thier spirit thier fire opposite of English, I always wish to of been born there ontop of loving Aguero and Messi. What do the argentinian girls like? White pale skin? I’m athletic and some girls were sexual right from the get go and some my age were sexy as hell they had that fire, those big black eyes do it and thier forwardness. One kept calling my batman after a joke we had and kept leaning right in my space asking me questions and wanting to be wonder woman and wanting to touch my hair and play with it and another friend I met when she returned got sexual online and asked me to go to argentina to meet her and she’ll wait for me, I am blown away, as I’m going there in June hopefully ti meet her but is it all a trap? A psycho sexual game to say “hey we got you gringo hahs you’ll never get this” but her and arhetinian girls I’ve seen are so hot right now thier style and vibe blow me away, after reading this I partially think it is a tral but I’m working there and maybe travelling to Peru to meet another friend but hope it isn’t as I’m in love with the argentinian people from everything I’ve seen from football to Messi and aguero to thier passion with brazil and friendliness with me as I love brazil also, anyway ignore the waffle, In short laments, is it a trap?

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Maybe someone out there can give me the scoop on this question: I am 38, divorced, am in good shape, still look good, and dress well. I was looking at taking an extended vacation to Colombia and/or Brazil.

I have no ill conceived notions about visiting and swooping 22 year olds. My question is what are the chances of guy my age going to these countries and hooking up with girls in the 30-38 age range? Or are these girls all at home married with lots of bambino’s?

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“Well, I’ve been learning Spanish for about 3 years now, I’m nearly fluent, so it looks like I’ll be hitting up Colombia first and foremost, maybe Peru, Costa Rica, Panama, and Chile, and staying the FUCK away from Argentina! Ha!”

Yeah well, I’ve just stayed 4 months in Colombia and I assure you that girls are not worth their reputation there (they were probably much cooler 10 years ago with less tourists)

The only place where girls are interesting and nice in my opinion is Bogotá but it’s freezing at night without heating.

Now they are just extremely flaky and quite boring, without any sense of humor (contrary to Brazilians). Only good thing about Colombia is that it’s cheap.

I can almost sense from Roosh’s texts that I would do better with crazy Argentinian girls playing crazy game than with boring flaky Colombian girls (The challenge almost gives me an incentive to try but I’m not that masochistic 🙂

I’ll just give up on Spanish speaking countries.

Brazil and Europe are much better for me…

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1. A white Argentine girl is harder to bang than one with a little bit of brown in her. These brown girls are more similar to Colombians in the work it takes to get with them. And I must stress similar because there is a difference. In Colombia girls flake right before the date, but in Argentina they do stupid shit well before. For example, in Argentina a girl will throw her number at me and then when I get her on the phone to make plans she�ll say, �Sorry but I have a boyfriend,� or something equally retarded. They just wanted to see if I�d ask them out or not. If you�re doing it by text then she simply won�t respond after a couple back-and-forths, no matter how much affection she gave you previously, making asking girls out here a lose/lose dilemma which game theory doesn�t have obvious answers to.

Dude you are so right it’s not even funny


3. If the club you�re going to has a web site or can be googled, you shouldn�t go there. Alright that�s an extreme rule, but you don�t want to go to trendy places frequented only by �white� Argentines who think they�re European. Experiment with trashy bars and clubs.

Pure gold. Man, I live in Mexico and I’m brown. White girls are impossible, brown girls are incredibly easy pickings.

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tl;dr

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i did ok in argentina and still have a couple of argentinian gfs

it did take a while to recalibrate my game

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If you want a white chic, just stay in the west. White Latin American women think they are a higher form of life. I’ve come to the conclusion that a country where there’s a solid white majority that’s also socially liberal is your best bet for white chics. The greater the number of non-whites that whites are surrounded by, the more the “goddess” mentality of the women gets amped up. There is a minority of women in India that look very white and have light eyes and all, kind of like some Persians. From what I hear they wouldn’t even spit on a dark Indian guy if he was on fire. Being surrounded by dark skinned people makes them view their light skin like it’s a precious commodity and they will be very discriminating. But go to a place where it’s almost all white + liberal like Scandinavia or Australia and being a dark guy shouldn’t be an issue, or maybe even a bonus. However if Scandinavia gets to the point that dark people are ever the majority because of immigration, the whites will probably go into siege mentality and become like the white minority in Latin America.

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All other Latin Americans think Argentines are douchebags and there are a lot of jokes about their lack of humor and cold demeanors.

Argentines are the only nationality in the Americas that I immediately feel superior to.

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@29 Beebopaloo

Cuba:
Well, first of all, research a lot on travel forums before you go there and keep in mind that Cuba is a completely unstable destination. The club that is hot today can be closed tomorrow. The city where the police didn’t care about gringos hanging out with girls yesterday might be crawling with enforcers today. The place you booked might be unavailable as you arrive and so on.

Technically, as a foreigner you are not even allowed to hang out with cubans for whatever reason but nobody really cares unless you are a fat old sex tourist. And even they are usually left alone. You will never get into trouble but the girl might.

Stay away from hotels. They are expensive and you would need to bribe the guards to get your girl in as it is illegal. Stay in a so called Casa Particular (family owned Bed & Breakfast). Most casas now allow only one gf per stay so ask around or try an arrangement with the owner. Or bang your multiple girls elsewhere.

Cuba is dirt poor, people make only $20 per month officially. So semi-pro p4p is very big. If you want super easy bangs just wing around with your casa owner and have him ask any random chick you like for some p4p action. Yes, it’s that simple. They will more often than not agree, more so if you’re young and good looking. Now I never did p4p in Cuba but even regular gf’s you will have to invite, pay dinner as everybody is poor. There is no real middle or upper class, except for the politburo. Havana is cool for a few days but expensive and the Habaneros will always try to cheat and scam you. The countryside is more laid back, cheaper and friendlier. But you need good spanish for best results.

Nitelife can be hit or miss. Clubs in Havana are usually full of hardcore hookers and some of them are unbelievably hot. You can try to bed them without paying but it should be a nuisance. A hooker is still a hooker, all over the world. Better stay with the regular good girls. It’s best to make cuban friends and go to private parties. If you’re a good looking gringo with at least some decent game girls will be all over you and you should have the time of your life. They love to dance and party and fuck.

But Cuba is a land of surprises where nothing actually works out the way you planned before. Just stay cool and adapt. Expect the unexpected.

There is a special hard currency for tourists and imported goods pegged to the dollar, the Peso Convertible. Expect to pay minimum $25 for lodging and at least another $30 per day for food, travel, activities. The big downside is that you pay relatively high prices for lower quality as you would get elsewhere. From what I heard, Cuba was a complete fuckfest in the 90’s. A real sex heaven, but things have changed. Sex tourism and police crackdowns spoiled things a bit. It’s still a place for lots and lots of fun though.

If you’re a US citizen make sure your DHS gestapo doesn’t find out you went there.

As for mulatas, good alternatives are Colombia, Brazil and the Dominican Republic. The DR is basically a capitalist carbon copy of Cuba, though cubanas are much more educated and less spoiled and more sultry.

Cuba can be fun if you know its special rules, if not it can be a headache. If you just want fun, sun and tropical beaches go elsewhere.

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What happens if DHS finds out you went to Cuba??

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Big fines, $7000 and more and maybe jail from what I heard. Don’t know the details cause I’m no American but it’s ridiculous for a so called free country. See Alex Jones’ documentaries for free and news website http://www.infowars.com for more on what DHS et al have for you.

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This weeks Roosh appreciation: Great post! Thanks for the blog, the forum and the books.

Speakeasy: God analysis. I’m scandinavian there does seem to be a bit off novelty thing for black guys but it is not strong and not universal (more like some guys have yellow fever) and there is an (often usnpoken) social stigma. I’m not sure how much of that is racial and how much of it is the fact that blacks where I live are nowhere near as cool as afro americans tough. I suspect a kanyewestish afro american could do very well. Some (afro and not) americans has written that scandinavian culture is kind of hard to crack this may be true, especially if you do a lot of cold approaches with very direct game.

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@ armchair,

thanks for the information. Much obliged.

Now Cuba is definitely on my radar.

I have taken myself the freedom to post your comment in the travelforum to share it with the other guys.

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“I heard black guys do well in EE, don’t know about Arab types”

Black guys do do well in EE (esp if they know the local language but that’s not always necessary).

Guys, like Roosh, who find themselves somewhere on the Mestizo-Arab-Turkish-Persian-Indian brown scale (even light brown) are another matter altogether. The big barrier is being dismissed out of hand as a probable gypsy or muslim (both of which are actively disliked).

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Can you really get laid in Turkey and Iran? I would have thought it would be extremely hard with the Muslim culture.

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I hear Istanbul actually has phenomenal nightlife. Never been though.

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Well… two colombian women that I know went to study at Buenos Aires for about 2 years. One is about 6, the other 7.5 and about the same age. The 6 didn’t get laid… no matter how hard she tried… the 7.5 could but was shocked about the culture (the sexual dynamics). it seems that everybody is fucked up, girls don’t trust men because men look only for one-night stands, so the screen process has made argentinean girls very difficult to reach, even for the locals (which are said to be the hottest from latinamerica according this girls).
These girls eventually fount out that for any man it is preferable to hit on other latinas in Buenos Aires than try to bang the locals.