How To Play Real-Life Tinder

I was hanging out with an Italian friend recently when he asked me if I wanted to play “real-life Tinder.” Intrigued, I agreed.

He positioned me at the top of a park staircase and told me to wait. A pair of girls climbed the stairs but did not look at me. “Keep waiting,” he said. Then a girl walked up and locked eye contact with me. I heard a yell from behind, “It’s a match! She swiped right.” It turns out that I’ve been playing real-life Tinder for 15 years without even knowing it.

There are only two steps to real-life Tinder. First, confirm that a girl is paying attention to her environment and not walking fast. This means she installed the real-life Tinder app and wants to play. Then you look at her. If she looks back at you without immediately looking away, you matched her and can start a conversation using a basic opener. If she smiles or gave you a rape stare, you have a super-match and can open with literally anything, even a primordial grunt. (Of course you can approach girls you don’t match with, but the responses will be hit or miss.)

The best thing about real-life Tinder is that there is minimal lag. You never have to wait more than one second for her reply, and if you’re good at reading body language, you’ll perceive instantaneous reactions that approach zero lag. Forget about the frustration of waiting minutes or hours for a reply to come in!

Another benefit of real-life Tinder is that girls rarely have sustained conversations with men they don’t like. If she thinks you’re not her type, she will look away quickly, because the last thing she wants to do is give you encouragement. Compare that to Tinder, where what may appear to be a solid match turns into immediate silence after your opening text. In real-life Tinder, you always get a response, even if it may not be one you prefer.

Real-life Tinder also makes it impossible for a girl to ghost on you while in the middle of a conversation. Due to the laws of physics, it’s simply impossible for a girl to vanish or teleport to another location while she’s standing in front of you. When she wants to leave, she has to say goodbye or give some sort of excuse as to why she’s ending the conversation. In Tinder, she can disappear without any excuse, even if you had what appeared to be a nice conversation, and feel no remorse about displayingΒ anti-social behavior.

But by far the best reason to play real-life Tinder is that you know exactlyΒ how she looks like. She won’t be able to defraud you by sharing old or photoshopped photos taken at precise Myspace angles. I only went on one Tinder date in my entire life, and boy did she not look like her photos. In playing real-life Tinder for 15 years, it has never happened that my eyes defrauded or deceived me in any way—not even once!

The argument that Tinder takes less time than real-life Tinder over the long run seems dubious, and even if Tinder was faster, it requires you to stare at a screen that you already stare at for several hours a day. Aren’t we technologically zombified enough? For men who are trapped indoors and don’t have time to play real-life Tinder, I suspect they have bigger problems to solve than meeting women, and should vigorously question their entrapment.

I like to play real-life Tinder when I have a sexual need. I walk out my front door and within five minutes I can begin swiping. I can do 200 swipes within an hour, depending on the time of day, and get a handful of worthy matches. Four hours of real-life Tinder will yield enough leads to keep me busy for a week. Since I’m able to and willing to put in this real-life work, I have no need for the original Tinder.

There’s one final advantage to playing real-life Tinder: you feel like a man doing it. To aid in your live-action hunt, your body produces testosterone, but when playing Tinder, your body halts testosterone production since no hunting ability is required. I believe it’s the lowered testosterone which allows men who exclusively play Tinder to accept the demoralizing behavior of impressing and entertaining girls who are either not that attractive or happen to be secretly fat.

It’s a great feeling to get a real-life match with an attractive girl. Only three feet separate you from her, so you can absorb her entire essence without lag or fakery, and be able to trust your instinct on her value. By comparison, Tinder seems archaic. It introduces unnecessary obstacles that any socially competent man who lives in at least a medium-sized city should feel constrained by, but if you’re a woman, it’s an app from heaven that gives you the attention you desperately crave without having to put forth any social effort.

I can’t help that I love to look at women in the flesh. I enjoy their efforts at attracting men such as myself, assuming they know how, and am titillated when I can sense they are attracted to me and want my penor. Tinder simply doesn’t give me this feeling, so it’s only the real-life game that I will play.

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mitch
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WOW just reading the title, I knew that article would be a little treat!

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Great article and way to remind men to day game, day game, day game! Keep pushing yourself because it is way more fun and far superior to lame ass online dating. Roosh, I am curious, though: did you ever install Tinder just for the hell of it? If so, what did you think and what were the results? Also, are the girls in Eastern Europe big on the whole “dating app” thing now, or are they still more into traditional dating? Apologies for the 20 questions, but just curious what you think; your work changed my life for the better, just to let you know. Thank you.

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Yeah I tried it about 3 years ago. My pictures were subpar but I got some matches (in Eastern Europe). I really hated texting the matches… it was such a grind because some girls didn’t write back or others trailed off. For a man who can walk up to any girl just about anywhere, it was a grossly inferior experience. My value displays better through face-to-face conversation than pictures or clown texting.

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As far as I know, Tinder is only really big in the US/Canada and kind of big in Australia. In other places I have heard it is used by locals trying to filter to find foreign guys to either practice English or hookup. I found it useful in Japan, Portugal, and Mexico where I felt like a woman getting 20 matches in an hour, but only about a quarter of those were interested in more than practicing English. In the US? Not so much, waste of time and much better to spend time not looking at your phone.

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I’ve never used it, but to me it looks like what happened to Tinder is what happened to Craigslist. When CL came out it was unusual, not widespread and fun – the felons and fatties hadn’t found it yet. Ditto for Tinder – when it first came out it was the same way, novel and fun, but as the teeming masses quickly piled on it became a real mess. In fact you might actually have better results with CL – not that i recommend either.

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just in the last year, I’ve done better with craigslist than Tinder. I don’t know WTF is wrong with Tinder. Women aren’t really made to qualify via pictures. Language is their trigger.

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It was a thing back in 2012 or so. Its well past its prime. My phone couldnt download it at the time, so I missed out on what were supposedly really easy pickings. Back then, you could go from virgin to multiple lays fairly easily I heard. Now, youre lucky to get a date out of a dozen matches.

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You’re just a low IQ Middle Eastern man who is having “sexual emergencies” with dumb and gullible White girls. Question: do you go only for White girls because you understand your inferiority?

Why not bang Middle Eastern girls, since you want “virtue” and virginity or whatever? Are you really that stupid?

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I notice the eye contact, but what do you do when it is quickly in passing? How do you initiate contact when the you are already past each other and you would have to turn around and give chase?

I can approach in other situations, but can’t crack this one. Would appreciate advice from those with better game.

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Most of my approaches are done on girls who don’t give me eye contact. It’s not necessary, though saves energy in the long run. If you like the girl, go for it.

R Sagan
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You don’t like girls. You like cheap and easy pussy. You’re a slave to your id and your very basic sexual desires, which is common in brown men (even middle-aged ones).

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I’ve had girls with the worst sneers on their faces turn all smiles. It really is weird sometimes. In fact, maybe they get picked up less because they have resting bitch face, maybe just because they are shy. Still, eye contact can be the best encouragement, but just like Lets Make A Deal, you really don’t know what’s behind the door, so you might as well look on it as an adventure.

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“Hi” with a big friendly grin is all you need mate grin
And then just throw anything that strikes your mind! If she is interested she WILL reply with something constructive. Women are better at that whole communication thing smile

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Three girls from Online. 2 secret fatties. So I disappeared. 3rd one went ghost-mode after the first date. Guess she was a secret bitch.

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I need to say hi more. I always get stuck on what to say, but once I say something, Im fine. its just kick that door open that can be a problem sometimes.

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I notice the eye contact, but what do you do when it is quickly in passing? How do you initiate contact when the you are already past each other and you would have to turn around and give chase?

I can approach in other situations, but can’t crack this one. Would appreciate advice from those with better game.

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Can we play Duck, Duck, Goose with real people too?

Or what’s that game…. Hide and Seek.

I am currently stuck playing. Do Your Job. It’s quite amazing really. The graphics are real and the NPCs are interactive. You can punch them in the face and you end up in jail or a hospital just like in Grand Theft Auto.

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This article is purely awesome, Roosh! Tinder is nothing but a waste of time. I tried it a few times, and it did absolutely nothing but swallow up valuable time I could have spent actually meeting women IRL. Not to mention, there’s no being a secret fatty in real life, too. What you see, is what you get.

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lol. Nice!

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Tinder distorts the real male-female dynamics.
In real life, a woman can select only from those guys who approach her.
On Tinder, it is assumed that all guys approached her so she can select from all. So wrong.

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It gives them an already more inflated sense of self worth than they already have.

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Exactly!

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*In real life a woman can select whoever she fancies and go approach him herself.

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Except it does not happen.
The Female ego, her self-worth, is resting on her perception of being wanted, being desirable for men.
It is based on the fact that in her whole life, she is approached by the men who find her sexy, by men who want her.
A woman would never approach a man cold, without knowing if he finds her desirable or not, because a possible rejection, a no from the man’s part, would totally shatter her self-perception and her self-worth.
Even men suffer from approach anxiety, but men are risk-takers, they must overcome that to succeed.
A woman will never take such a risk, a woman will never initiate with a man if she is not sure that her action will be welcomed.

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I totally agree with you Hunn, it’s a horrible feeling being rejected. It does really lower your self-esteem. I can speak from experience, I’ve approached guys myself, and even got rejected, and it’s not pleasant. I just wanted to disappear afterwards. And it’s also true that most girls/women wouldn’t dare to approach a guy first either, but that’s mainly due on how the society taught us all to behave, sadly (as in guys do the chase and girls feel precious) But it doesn’t have to be that way.

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One of the few gifts of rejection is that it does help to toughen a person up. Feminists attempt to rationalize away women’s contributions to the wage gap:
http://newsroom.iza.org/en/2016/09/13/differences-in-risk-attitudes-do-not-explain-gender-gap-in-leadership-positions/

but it’s pretty obvious that someone who lives in a universe of thinking that they can get the man of their dreams simply by waiting for him to literally fall into her lap probably are going to have issues with the job market and other aspects of life that require risk taking.

This also explains why feminism requires continual proselytization: Left to their own devices, on a level playing field, women tend to be non-risk takers unable to compete with men. Men who rescue them do so for the man’s agenda (not merely to please her) and this is the “patriarchal oppression” narrative: That men don’t take care of women solely to please women.

Consider Roosh: I like the guy, but he’s been a PUA most of his life. Most women are not satisfied with PUA’s for relationships (even if their behavior makes them ideal targets for PUAs) and, consequently, healthy societies frown upon women who sleep around in order to help dissuade them from falling for men that are ultimately unhealthy for them (kind of like fat shaming to keep women from eating too much.)

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How is a Polish man ok with a Middle Eastern POS like Roosh who admits to raping his women? You are a cuck to the filthy brown hordes.

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i’m amazed roosh lets an insecure little boy like you continue to post on his site……come back when you grow a pair

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Hey troll.

Nice try. You are obviously obsessed with Roosh because he is having cultural significance while you don’t. So whose the cuck?

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Do you know what a guy thinks when a woman takes the first step?
“What’s wrong with her?”
Especially if the girl is hot.

That’s what we think, and I speak from experience, too.
There is nothing wrong with a girl sending signs of interest to a guy, because then if the guy is clever he can act on cue. But no direct approach, because that will feel unnatural.

And I think this has to be that way, because on the man’s part, the “what’s wrong with her” is gut feeling and not a conscious reaction.

NO society taught me to react this way when it happened to me once in my life , it just happened. And these things will not change, no matter if we want it or not.

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A woman only made the first move once in your life?

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Yes. But that is not strange that it only happened once. The strange thing is that it happened at all. It is not normal for a woman to make the first move, and it takes away from the pleasure of the hunting.

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i totally disagree, but it’s just never the really hot ones that outright approach me. It’s always a drunken, used, old or some woman with way too many delusions about where she is. Or maybe my delusions. I think women should venture to make the first move, but considering the rejection in men’s lives, they should expect to get a taste of what they’ve dished out. Sorry if that sounds bitter, but I’ve been more successful than 90% of men, and yet, I’m still not ready to give women a pass for their never-ending horseshit judgements, not just in short meetings, but longer-term relationships. Women are made to judge, particularly in the West, and the final answer becomes Bite Me. You want to approach me, you better bring something to the table.

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I think one of the perks of being a man is hunting. You are hunting for a girl who is to your liking, who is your type, and ignore the rest of them.
I am, at the moment, a failure career-wise, but the last thing I would discuss with a woman is my career, my job, or the amount of money I have in the bank or in my wallet. None of their business, as far as I am concerned.

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I’ve been published, I’ve got artwork hanging in a city collection, I’ve got products selling online, not a drunk or an addict, and simply because I’m not more than middle class, a crew of stupid women think it’s their right to judge me. Women are fucking parasites on men and each other. They are the biggest bloodsuckers earth has ever created.

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I think you should have standards, period.
Any woman who is not supportive, any woman who does not appreciate you, your goals, your results, and what you bring to the table, should fail your standards by default.
Instead of trying to please them, and worrying about not meeting their inflated requirements, tell them to kindly fuck off.
Maybe you will not fuck them either way, but sure as fuck you will feel like a man with a backbone, taking no shit from women, but your chances to do it will rise. You will be surprised what a man with having standards and making a woman to qualify according to those standards can achieve, smile
Their judging power over you results in them having the pussy and knowing you are lusting after them. Turning the table, showing them that you couldn’t care less unless they meet your standards, is a whole new ballgame.

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Can’t recall too many female geniuses throughout history. No Beethovens or Rembrandts either.

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To be fair, there have been excellent female artists (though there really are very few women musical composers, or even songwriters), and in the periods you mention, women had zero opportunity for the kind of training it takes to be Beethoven or Rembrandt.

That said, women are usually sidelined by their own urge to spawn, and then they bitch that they don’t get further up the work ladder when they don’t put in the time. Plus many women are fucking in their teens while geeky men in puberty are improving their skillsets. Women, at least hot women, are born to leech. It’s in their DNA.

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Thats a whole lot words when “women are cowards” would have sufficed.

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My feelings are that only the average women with overwrought egos approach me. I try to be polite, but I don’t have time for some overly aggressive Western power broker thinking she’s gonna tell me what to do. I try to be polite, definitely, but the nicer women don’t put on the more aggressive show. I try to be liberated, but the last thing I want to see initially from a woman is her claim to be in charge. F No, you’re not!

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Women who approach men can get raped, you know. Most men hate being approached because it emasculates them, even in church.

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I don`t know about that. A woman approaching a man signals there is no need for rape, she will go willingly. I wont say it is emasculating, but surely depletes the intensity of the chase.

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Women who approach men can get raped, you know. Most men hate being approached because it emasculates them, even in church.

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I had a woman hit on me two nights ago. Too bad she was a short bowling ball grenade with eyes like Jabba the Hutt.

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Did you say yes, though? smile

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Instagram is even worse. It turns all hot women into imagined supermodels with careers. It turns average women into hot girls who have lots of suitors. It’s a bullshit situation.

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That is why I refuse to follow a woman on any Social Media. It gives a man an instant beta orbiter status, which must be avoided at all costs.

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While I do agree on several points made in this article, I find some remarks to be kinda closeminded and sexist.

As a girl, I don’t use tinder cos I have a desperate need for attention, like stated in the article, but it’s simply just because I wanna find someone I can go out with (crazy I know). If I was craving for attention I would surely choose other dating sites or social media where anyone can message me and comment on my pictures. The reason for choosing tinder is simply because you can actually select the people that you can interact with, of course I’ll only ever choose the ones I’m actually interested in… So that I don’t end up wasting my time scrolling through lots of messages I’m never going to reply to (not cos I’m a dick, but it’s not possible to hold a decent convo with 30+ men a day, it would be a stressful full time job), as well as not wasting the guys time too!

Also, on so many occasions I’ve matched with guys, contacted them first, then never received a reply from them. Or even they messaged me first, we’d have a pleasant conversation, then they would just disappear and stop replying altogether. And this has happened countless times… Just saying this to let you know it’s not just one way, but it happens to us girls too!

Same thing when you talk about girls not looking like in their pictures, can be applied to boys too! Photoshop, Snapchat filters, good camera angles, etc. For example there was this one guy I dated that looked hot and muscly in his pics, a real macho! But in real life he turned out to be a below-average looking guy, and really fat. Nothing wrong with that hey, but I just wished his pictures were not as deceiving.

And finally, although I’d love to play real life tinder more often in my life, sometimes it’s simply not possible, and thanks to the app I’ve met some great and fun people that I would have never met otherwise. Let’s say I’m lying in bed, it’s 1am but I’m not sleepy at all. But I fancy finding some cute guy I can have a chat and flirt with, and possibly arrange a little date for the following days… It’s highly unlikely that I get all dressed up and go out by myself on a man-hunt around town ;p that would be plain weird if I did. So there’s the app for that.

I’m just saying the key is moderation and balance for everything, and that us girls are not the attention-thirsty monsters you depict us to be.

Sorry for the length, I got a bit carried away hehe. Peace xx

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How many men have you slept with through Tinder?

Stella
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4… and what?

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You’re probably lying, but even if not, your real-life notch count is well into double digits.

My blog concerns how to merely sleep with girls like you. You’re making the wrong choices by staying on apps like Tinder when it comes to your well-being, rationalizing it by saying you’ve met “fun friends”.

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I don’t see why I would be lying, especially because I have no idea what point you’re trying to make by asking me that question.

Yes, my count is double digits, I’d say a good half of those guys were met on dating sites (not just tinder, but also other apps I used to be on years ago, like POF, OKC, etc), while the other half were guys meet in real life.

I think that – although quite different – they both can be fun and interesting experiences… while I completely understand that meeting someone online isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, and I totally respect that.

One of the guys I met online even eneded up becoming my (now ex) boyfriend and we had dated for over a year, just to prove that the online world can either be used just for fun or even for something more serious and meaningful, depending on your and your partner’s needs.

And thank you for concerning about me, but I know what I’m doing and what I want, and I don’t need a stranger teaching me about my own well-being, cheers xD

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Stella, you really haven’t looked around this website have you? After leaving multiple comments on this blog, you haven’t looked around this place?

Amazing

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No love, this article appeared as suggested on my Google feeds, so I read it and decided to leave a comment. Did I actually end up on http://www.misogyny.com by any chance? Cos I wouldn’t be too surprised at this point πŸ˜…

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Triple digits.

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Hey, you should be named after the Arab rape-gang phenomenon Taharrush –> Taharoosh. How many White girls have you raped? I bet your number of rapes is way bigger than Stella’s number of hookups…

You’re just a rapist, criminal, and shitty writer who wants other men to be as ugly, stupid and alone as you are.

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Always multiply a woman’s lie by 5. It puts the truth closer to reality.
Tinder is a snake pit full of triple-digit notch count, validation-seeking tramps. The best thing you’re going to get from it is HPV, if you’re lucky.

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Yes of course Turboprop, I’ve been lying all this time…it’s actually 5 digits and I currently have at least 20 stds, but you’ve seen through my lies, you got a talent man, nicely spotted! wink

You ALL seem to be so obsessed over my number that makes me laugh xD I’ve simply made my first comment to say that things are not just one way, and that men are not a piece of cake either. Simples. Did I trigger you that much?

And no matter what I say, cos all you can give me as a come back is: ”oooo but you’re lying!!!11!”. Yeah boys, great argumenting skills on your side wink

Stay close minded, stay angry, stay virgin! Peace out

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Gotta feel bad for the poor cuck that will wife up your overused XXXL pussy.

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I don’t think someone will ever be miserable and desperate enough to wife me up, obviously. I’m a shame of a human being. And if someone did, I wouldn’t even bang them, I’d just use them for their money #golddiglikeapro

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Makes sense. Your father must be really proud of you.

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He is indeed! :’) My aim in life is to reach my father’s count. When i do, he’ll consider me a real woman!!1!

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Daddy issues. That explains a lot.

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Sooo…you’re saying the men she’s been with are “XXXL” compared to you?

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Solipsism. AWALT.

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That describes you well wink

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Hi Stella. I appreciate you in the discussion because if this forum is going to be a sausage fest of men comparing notes on talking with women without actual women, that’s really sad. I’m an old timer having engaged in internet debate from the days when the internet required you to know your route to the other computer (the machines in between) to send messages. I appreciate you being here.

In regards to your original comment and this article in general: About 40 years ago in the states, before tinder, MOST men “day gamed” and Roosh’s tips were common knowledge which was the problem: Many women “attention whored” back then in real life: They’d make eye contact, have the guy drop a line, and then sneer: “What makes you think I’d want to talk to YOU?!?!?” Women didn’t want to use online dating or “tinder” because the workplace and real life got them plenty of approaches and online dating was full of men who didn’t want to go through that (I was one of them) or losers (again, I guess I could be considered a loser by those womens’ standards). A minority of women who were so unattractive that they couldn’t get daygame attention OR were smart and realized that the PUAs were dominating daygame started to move over to internet dating.

In theory, things should be more equitable now in that the internet really does equalize things aside from gender ratios. There’s little risk and women can’t dress down men in public for approaching them and creeps can’t freak women out by staring them down as they walk up the stairs. But the sex ratio is still skewed towards women as many women drop out altogether and become antisocial loners.

All of this is ugly and unpleasant and makes one wonder whether the PUA lifestyle was really worth these social pathologies that have sprung up. Women were a lot happier in the days of dancing with a few guys at the sock hop and getting married to someone at 21 and working it out and raising a few kids. Yeah, some of the men were jerks but no more statistically then as now (heck, it appears that the quality of men that women pick now is worse than back then.) By the same token, the average guy’s notch count was in the single digits as well (my father and mother’s notch count was 1 each. Guess who!) but my sisters and I could walk home from school from 5AM to 6PM and nobody worried about it.

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Thank you PolishKnightUSA for your insight on the topic, and for being polite while argumentating your own experiences and point of view smile … I was starting to lose hope on this website. I wonder why these males are so mad at the female population, so much repressed anger and frustration that I’ve seen in the last couple of days, which is quite sad.

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Thank you. I don’t want an echo chamber and if someone doesn’t value your (or my) opinion, they simply won’t respond. Silence is the ultimate indicator that someone is either unentertaining or useless more than dissent.

In answer to your question, it’s ironically due to The Playboy Philosophy (yes, it wasn’t merely a now outdated nudie mag) that largely proclaimed:

“Not only does Playboy create a new image of the ideal man, it also creates a slick little universe
all its own, creates what you might call an alternative version of reality in which men may live in their minds. It’s a light and jolly kind of universe, a world in which a man can be forever carefree, where a man can remain, like Peter Pan, a boy forever and ever. There are no nagging demands and responsibilities, no complexities or complications.”

It’s a lot like the life that Roosh leads but at the same time, it demands rigorous discipline and, like with Hugh Hefner, a reading audience of those who dream of such a lifestyle but lies beyond their personal reach. There simply isn’t enough room in the world for most men to live like Hugh Hefner (or Roosh).

Ironically, I think that women are equally miserable in their own way. But before I go into that, I want to say that a majority of women, albeit not a sheer majority, are largely likable in that, statistically, they marry reasonably young, squeeze out kids, and largely are invisible. Men here will not meet a happily married 25 year old woman whose a new mother at the club. They’ll meet skanks and this disproportionately represents women just as if you go to the after-Christmas sale and see what’s left over (which I find to be a real bargain!)

That’s not to say that this modern culture hasn’t poisoned many women but that’s like blaming the tuna for being full of mercury.

So I think that due to women going to school and getting careers because they simply don’t have anything else better to do (and whose going to tell them otherwise) and then being frustrated that men aren’t living up to traditional standards anymore, this leaves them p*ssed off and this causes them to alienate men and it’s an ugly, vicious cycle which the leftist elites gleefully chuckle over.

When I was dating, I simply wanted to have an honest, respectful discussion of these issues with young women but early in the dating process, they’re largely acting like spoiled children at a birthday party but nonetheless, I found a woman capable of at least having the discussion and married her. She was foreign though. Perhaps a (single) American woman in her 30’s could have worked out if I had managed her well (kept my big mouth shut for at least 2 months in until they had enough emotional investment where I didn’t have to be a party clown for them) but by then, I had moved on.

So anyways, my point is that, ironically, due partially to a libertine philosophy of “party and casual sex”, it now takes a lot of discipline and effort (and often time!) for men (and even for women who don’t want to fall into a trap) to start a relationship and family that my parents largely got started in their early 20’s.

Personally, I wonder if I had married my first girlfriend (who was and is a sweetheart for someone else). I’d be a grandfather by now instead of a father. At the same time, I’d be a lot less interesting.

Anyhoo, thanks for listening to an old man’s babbling. I just got done singing “the wheels on the bus goes round and round!” for my daughter for the 100th time so this is a refreshing intellectual diatribe.

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Western women have left the building, but you’re right that not every western man gets to be Hugh Hefner. However, many of us aren’t trying to be Hugh hefner, we’re just trying to find the right balance with one women, and the women have been trained not to be cooperative. If they acquiesce during dating, they can bail later. I know so many married men getting jacked by their wives for no real reasons other than these women have been told to express their feelings and desires. This is straight up bullshit. Life is not a fantasy.
Much of life is adversity. A man on the sidelines not yet sucked into the nightmare might very well say, F that noise, I’m out here to win, not to be chained to a time bomb.

I’m more and more convinced that women are incapable of distinguishing reality from fantasy, although it’s also clearly a problem for millions of men. Mass hysteria is real, and its only going to get worse. Fun Times!

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nice try and he knows what he’s talking about, but you’re still a predator. That is clear, and you’re why American men are desperately going overseas to find what remains of women that can submit, and by that, I mean be equals. Western feminists want ALL the power, NOT equality. I don’t think it’s conscious, i just think it’s training, or possibly an unnatural state society has created. If women are trained to NEVER be subservient, they can never be equal partners in the challenge of LTRs and marriage and child-rearing. Of course, in the West, everyone is taught that THEY are paramount, and never wrong, blah blah blah. Modern people are just pieces of garbage.

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Women are incapable of taking criticisms, as any objective judgment of the sex as a whole will be received as a personal attack.

Men here might be resentful, but at the end of the day they accept women for what they are and focus mainly on improving themselves and using the knowledge they gain here and within other sites to navigate more effectively intersexual relationships.

Publications aimed at women are as resentful towards men as anything you’ll find here. However, the spotlight is never aimed towards their own attitudes and behaviors that might prevent women from being happy. Women have a tendency to rationalize away their lacking, failures and errors. Therefore from their view, any issues in intersexual relationships will only fall upon the shoulders of men.

You use tinder at your own peril, the fact that a really hot guy can hookup with you on tinder, doesn’t mean he’s as keen towards you for a relationship. However, you might get drunk on the ego-boost and raise your bar to an insane level, just because a hot guy fucked you once.

In the end apps like those instill in women a “shop-aholic” mentality. Where they think there’s always a better “match” than the one you currently have just waiting around the corner.

Remember, your vagina will get a man into your bed, but it won’t make him commit. As the years pass you’ll surely be able to still get relatively hot guys for a ONS, but those willing to commit will drop both in numbers and quality with time.

Tinder is the fast route in the long term to end up single-cat-lady with a really high notch-count.

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As an older family dude, just sad to see few women any more worth it. I would never sacrifice my working life to support a woman who had screwed around so much. But I was surprised about one thing. And happy, my cousin, a 60 year old former free-love hippie (knockout beautiful in 1970’s) shared with me something encouraging.

As a nurse, she has encountered recently a significant number of young ladies who are saving themselves for marriage. A recent increase. And I am happy to be able to use the word “young ladies” and be really talking about young ladies.

She was surprised and so was I. My cousin is now a born again Christian and even a good mother after 2 divorces. Daughter also beautiful like mother and finished college, working a high paying job.

So maybe it is never too late for a small minority. But I hope my son marries a virgin. I have told him to ditch North America and marry a catholic from the Phillipines.

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“But I hope my son marries a virgin.”

Actually, it’s good for your son to have an experienced partner when it comes to sex. Not whorish or a slut, but she should know what she is doing.

“I have told him to ditch North America and marry a catholic from the Phillipines.”

That would be poor advice. There are plenty of high quality ladies in the States. Furthermore, you would advocating race mixing, which is a big no-no to the Alt Right.

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My son is half Japanese. Kick ass dude, does pull-ups with one arm, tri-lingual. Should be a US Army officer less than a year from now if his last year of ROTC pans out.

I am big on Trump, we even make Asian jokes (and white and everything else). Hate PC, but do not mind race mixing.

(I will say I object to pushing race mixing. Race mixing is good when it occurs with smart people interested in language and culture. What I oppose is dumping millions of 3rd world populations on indigeneous people and accusing them of racism when they object. I think the wall could be a great idea, but I really do not care if they find a way to just better patrol the border. Immigration can be slowed with now wall with a president who enforcces the laws. But a wall could keep the border secure long after Trump has left office. Hopefully he will make it his entire four years.)

That being said, the presence of Japanese businesses in our community has brought considerable financial and cultural benefits to my family.

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How narrow minded. I’m a conservative WASP man and i only date Latinas wink

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This is actually a sleeper phenomenon among girls. They will say they have slept with several guy to sound “normal,” but they are closet virgins. The the sexes are fundamentally different and (feminine) women are simply not as interested in hookups as men.

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I would say it’s obvious you make a terrible, and totally unreliable girlfriend. I don’t have a problem with a girl seeking out her sexuality, but if you had all those opportunities to start a relationship, and you could only find one guy to stay with a year, either he was a lying predator, or you’re a girl who can’t submit and commit to a guy. I’m sure some of those guys you slept with wanted a relationship with you, since that’s how many guys are.

You don’t care at all about having a real relationship, and there’s nothing in your dialogue that sounds distinctive. You sound totally robotic, which to me says either you’re an actress online, or you are hiding something really deeply screwed up, and thus, have zero vulnerability, and are just exactly seeking out validation and nothing more from Tinder and whomever else you date wherever they show up. Good luck.

plus your parting attack on critics being virgins shows that you are incapable of taking criticism, my number one requirement for finding a woman of any lasting quality. You are the Western nightmare, a woman who uses sex to not give up any position whatsoever in life, to compromise her body, but not her heart or anything else of value to any man.

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How would you know I make a terrible girlfriend? Haha, I could say the same about you, since you tend to judge people so quickly. I’m sure you make a terrible bf/husbad!

I sure can commit to a guy, and had 2 other relationships in my life, but I had been cheated on… by both of them.
But that won’t matter to you, cos obviously I am the ‘totally unreliable’ one, right?

And no, the other guys clearly didn’t want a relationship with me, since they were just fuckbuddies or one night stands. I would have been available to go out on a date with them if they ever wished to take me on one, but they were happy just banging, so was I.

Also, I am far from being robotic, I like to throw a little bit of sarcasm now and then, but only smart people can detect that ;p

And again, I can take criticism when it makes sense and is constructive. I work in the film industry and I have to work with critics every day. But insulting me for no reason, attacking me about my personal life choices is by no means something smart to say, so I had to reply with something stupid back, so that they could all understand.

Peace

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I could be wrong. Maybe you do have a pulse. Stop picking alpha show-offs then. I’m sure some average guy wants to be faithful to you.

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wow — is this sweeps week? a lot of reality here.

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Hahahaha

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It’s important to appear happy, relaxed and, if possible, social when making eye contact. I’m very good looking and real-life tindered for many years, but because I was depressed and alone I hardly ever got a look back.
Roosh, I remember you mentioning Tinder in several stories, including one where you bedded a feminist you met on it, but now you claim to have only been on one Tinder date?

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Oops, the feminist story was from someone else at ROK smile

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Shannon’s boyfriend looks like he may be in a relationship with the man of his dreams too. Of his worst dreams. In prison.

Bah who am I kidding. Her boyfriend probably gave up the ass willingly without a fight judging by his cucked appearance.

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The Shannon and Rebecca screen grabs are both informative and hilarious.

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Extremely funny considering I’m in the middle of writing an article about eye contact. It has been such a game changer for me. Yes, I still approach girls that don’t look at me, but the eye contact can tell you so much. When you learn to identify that look of desire from a girl (not the same as her lustful gaze in bed), you instantly get a huge surge of confidence because you innately know that she has imagined you plowing her in the moment she locked her gaze with yours. I used to always not look at girls’ eyes on purpose, or immediately look away as I thought that staring was “creepy.” But now when I get that gaze from her, I easily say to her, “You know it’s not polite to stare.” with a smirk. Great article Roosh

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Is it safer to use a pirate patch if initiating eye to eye contact with a lady of questionable std status?

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Never used Tinder, although some of my mates tried to sell it to me, by telling me how easy it was to hook up with women.

Not interested.

First it is a time-sink, as I do believe that it can be addictive, especially if you are living in a big city. Furthermore it takes a lot of time and energy to think of witty lines to get your matches to respond and trying to meet up with them.

Secondly when you meet up with your matches eventually, you will probably find out that it is a “female thrift shop”, i.e. most women on there wouldn’t pass the boner test in real life.

Thirdly and most importantly it would annoy me to wait for responses from women that have shown an interest but have many options and therefore don’t feel the need to reply immediately.

Don’t get me wrong, if you are using it and enjoy it, good for you!

I believe that it is better for me to approach a girl that interests me whilst I am out and about. I am pretty good in noticing which girls are happy to be opened by me, so I do primarily approach those with good results.

Yes, every now and then I still get nervous, but over the last few years I do care less and less what her reaction might be. Girls notice that, which often gives me the edge, as I appear confident and outcome independent (which can’t be faked).

What I love about approaching a girl (day game) is that you get an instant reaction from her. Either she is interested or she isn’t. You rarely get a girl that is lukewarm, which is good!

Girls that are lukewarm about you and are giving you mixed signals are the biggest time- and money-wasters in my experience. In the past I couldn’t figure this out and thought that she is maybe playing hard to get, etc.

Today I just accept that it isn’t worth my time or effort to pursue girls that are lukewarm. Believe me, you usually come out on top if you follow this piece of advice.

Luckily you don’t get many of those with day game. You often know exactly if the girl likes you or not.

If she doesn’t then that’s fine as well. At least you know!

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Of course the irony here is that “real life Tinder” is just real life, pre-2000. (We’re explaining real life through a Tinder context.) As though they can’t erase hundreds of years of history, women still look and women still wait to be approached if they look. My experience is that western women are always very plain about the interest or lack of interest. Eastern European (my experience) are more diffident so one has to suck it up and cold approach.

Eye contact in NYC, Paris, Rome etc. is the currency of desire. (Eye contact in Las Vegas will cost you some currency.)

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Indian male from India here — For the record, I don’t give a damn about the wall Trump is building and before you even ask, no! I have no intention of coming to US/West and steal your jobs.

Now on the point, folks! Is the situation so fucked up in USA/West? I mean here in India, you can easily ‘wife’ a decent looking girl if you are earning okay. There are some oddballs but if you stick to known families and your community you are guaranteed to get a virgin bride. Most of our ladies work, prepare meals for the family and take care of kids too. Seriously scoring a virgin in India is not even something to brag or talk about. How do I know? Well its unreliable but bleed test works for us. It worked for me! And for my family members.

The oddballs in India are outed sooner or later with a video posted on a porn site or via familiy or community, perpatually rejected for marriage or parents have to pay obscene amount for dowary and more than often shamed into suicide. Some extreme communities also kill such women, not that I support such acts.

The more and more I look at west, more I become perplexed. The stuff which we take for granted in India is a luxury in west it seems. Stuff like normal produce/food, a family which will go to any extent to support their children’s education, a virgin bride, home cooked meal, servants who are happy to do your dishes. What went wrong there folks? I have always looked at USA with a sense of reverence. You are the god damn people who put a man on the moon — something neither China nor India nor anyone else have achieved so far!

While there had been anti male laws in India, but not as fucked up as those in the USA. Loosing half of your property in divorce? come on! Not happens in India! Loosing child custody? Nope! Girl re-marrying after divorce? very rare. Heck even her sister will have hard time finding a match even if she were a 8 or 9.

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Cultural Marxism disguised as “Critical Theory” and “Third wave Feminism” and “Multiculturalism” and “Equality”.

They infested our schools, and made everything “relative” and that we “mustn’t judge”. Thus there are no longer any moral absolutes for many people. A woman sleeping around is no worse than a stand-up housewife. In fact she is better, she is free and “independent”.

This ideology hollows out a nation from the ground up, like termites eating the wood foundation. It happen slowly, each generation slightly worse than before. Each additional step written off as kids simply having fun and “rebelling”. The older generation is too busy working. Family has fallen apart, as each generation moves to find a job, parents and children in different cities.

They promote it in the media, each step allowing the movement to the next, aka the “Overton Window”. Kids grow up watching the stuff, parents too busy working, or single parent household. Think of movies like “Friends With Benefits”.

Soon everyone is having fun, it seems glamorous. Then everyone wakes up and they are 35+, are not married and have no kids. Across the West 50% of women in their 30’s still have not had a single kid. 20% of women born in the 1970s will NEVER have kids. (numbers vary slightly by which country, things are worst in Europe, but South Korea and Japan has somewhat similar issues)

Soon, the nation is a hallow husk of its former self. The culture is hollow and dead, there is an ever shrinking next generation is maintain it, or its being pulled in thousands of directions by mass immigration, giving it no true identity. Everyone feels alienated, a community break down occurs. People do not know their neighbors, they go out less, meet less people. Sure there might still be crowds at the park, but they are usually separated into groups based on different things, all along the lines of identity politics.

Western Civilization is living on borrowed time. If extreme changes do not happen soon, suspending most immigration and getting a native baby boom going, then we will be a culture simply circling the drain. If civil war doesn’t happen cause police state, things will devolve into a mess of people’s with no identity, nothing in common, and no sense of family or community life.

Defend your country. Your Culture. Most off all, defend the family. The family is the true foundation of it all.

But for God’s sake stop shaming the few women who make mistakes into suicide razz

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“Cultural Marxism disguised as “Critical Theory” and “Third wave Feminism” and “Multiculturalism” and “Equality”.”

Fake News.

“They infested our schools, and made everything “relative” and that we “mustn’t judge”. Thus there are no longer any moral absolutes for many people. A woman sleeping around is no worse than a stand-up housewife. In fact she is better, she is free and “independent”.”

No, it’s a man and a woman sleeping around is no worse than a beta male, or a housewife, respectively.

“This ideology hollows out a nation from the ground up, like termites eating the wood foundation. It happen slowly, each generation slightly worse than before. Each additional step written off as kids simply having fun and “rebelling”. The older generation is too busy working. Family has fallen apart, as each generation moves to find a job, parents and children in different cities.”

So rather than complain, what are you prepared to do to help stem this tide?

“Soon everyone is having fun, it seems glamorous. Then everyone wakes up and they are 35+, are not married and have no kids. Across the West 50% of women in their 30’s still have not had a single kid. 20% of women born in the 1970s will NEVER have kids.”

And this impacts you directly in what way?

“Soon, the nation is a hallow husk of its former self. The culture is hollow and dead, there is an ever shrinking next generation is maintain it, or its being pulled in thousands of directions by mass immigration, giving it no true identity. Everyone feels alienated, a community break down occurs.”

Nations change. Demographics change. Cultures change. For better or for worse. So you are upset and frustrated and felt the need to rant.

“Western Civilization is living on borrowed time. If extreme changes do not happen soon, suspending most immigration and getting a native baby boom going, then we will be a culture simply circling the drain.”

Americans generally do not refer to themselves as defenders of Western Civilization. Perhaps you can form a club and promote this moniker.

“If civil war doesn’t happen cause police state, things will devolve into a mess of people’s with no identity, nothing in common, and no sense of family or community life.”

So are you in favor of a civil war? OK, armchair warrior, will you be on the front lines or in the back like a scared rabbit?

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Decent Indians want to stay in India and build their nation. Only the losers want to go to the US.

Basically you answered your own question. A decent man in the US has an easy time finding girls in the US, too. Using your definition of the decent man: marriage and family minded, employed, hardworking, not a pervert, etc. have a VERY easy time. The problem is that sites like this are littered with perverts, porn addicts, unemployed losers, and 50 years who want to marry 18 year olds. Those men have a very hard time, just as they would in India.

Side note: isn’t there a shortage of brides in India due to gender-selected abortion (true in China as well)?

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That was a really good one, men need to be hunters, BUT I’ve still got MAJOR doubt about one important thing…
Sex was created in ancient times, when people have to hunt animals to live. Women can’t hunt animals, men must shared food with them. So women exchange their bodies for food. Men survive by itself and women not. Women are the one’s who need to make first move to men in order to survive. It’s primary – woman body develop sexuality only when she need something from man.
So when you make the first move her body don’t force her to be sexy. The relation is flawed from the beginning… in her eyes she don’t need to care about you. You make the first step and her subconcious feels like “he OFFER me food, I don’t need to take care of anything”.
She doesn’t consider you as best hunter, the alpha with the best food. When you HAVE something really good women want it and do everything for it.
When you make the first step she will be STILL looking for someone better that she MUST care about.

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Anthropologists established that women gathered almost 80% of the calories for the tribes. Try reading actual research once in a while.

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Men are the sole ones who make the first move. Women are to be shy and awkward.

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This is what we did before Tinder…

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This is brilliant. I predict many men will be seen standing near stairways this weekend 😊

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hey roosh if you want me to read your stuff, then dont put pictures of ugly cunts on your webpage

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He was doing you a favor by having your sister’s mug appear here, and this is how you repay him?

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Really surprised at this. I thought the overall convenience of tinder is really the best thing since sliced bread. Cut out all of the crap, quickly set up dates, that put me immediately in position to work on getting the bang.

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While contributing to the decline of the West. Rather than secure the bang, why not secure a wife and offspring?

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Because that would require self-respect and commitment to something other than quick pleasure.

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Because I enjoy the sluttification of American women and want to cash in. Wife/kids sounds like a huge hassle and a path to unhappiness.

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“Because I enjoy the sluttification of American women and
want to cash in.”

As a beta male, you have no game to “cash in”. But keep dreaming.

“Wife/kids sounds like a huge hassle and a path to unhappiness.”

That would require effort and sophistication on your part. Since you are stuck in juvenile mode, in the end it is a benefit to society that you are not having children given your lack of impulse control.

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It’s funny, I must’ve missed the memo when words like “alpha” “beta” “cuck” became popular on the internet.

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Then you haven’t been paying close attention with all that alleged poon you’ve been procuring.

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Ross Jeffries is the main developer behind the original Real Life Tinder.

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Could not stop laughing. Not because the article was not good.. it was great. But because Roosh had to find a way to coach REAL LIFE HUMAN INTERACTION WITH A FEMALE into a Tinder app for the youngens to understand.

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Annoying thing about Tinder now is nearly every girl writes “not here to hookup”. Not sure if that is really the case or not, as she may be trying not to appear slutty but that kind of defeats the whole purpose of Tinder. If people wanted to date I’d think they’d go to Match or elsewhere.

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Do I really want to know what a “Tinder” is?

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Great observations Roosh. Tinder is a sex doll compared to real life approach. You are correct that IRL does so many positive things on a cellular through aspirational level. Every aspect of your life will improve once you conquer approach anxiety. Especially if you’re in sales. I have my sales reps read Bang! as one of their CE credits. Game is life enhancement.

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hahahaha I was joking to my friend about this a few months ago, that I would have better results going up to random girls and saying “swipe right” or something along those lines. Never got around to doing it tho.

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Hey roosh, unblock me from ROK. I bought two or your shirts and piss off my newly engaged brother by spouting knowledge learned from the writers of ROK. To be banned for saying that you had a “lame comeback Roosh” (it was) comes off as petty and embarrassing for the both of us as it makes you look like a snowflake and me like a bitch by coming on here and writing this. Please unblock.

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Nice article

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There was a time in the late 90s when the Internet was new that is was a GREAT way to get laid, almost so much and by such high quality but young candidates, I think of it as a magical time, and it was, but it is so gone forever. Internet dating THEN was SO much better than now. It gave you access to horny women without them being able to use it for attention whoring or to over qualify by many many guys. Granted, I’m older, and I would imagine some stud with brains can fuck like crazy off of it, but honestly, I’m doing better the old fashioned way, just like this article states. Women let you know if you can open them. Just work at it. And abundance and IDGAF attitude works. Just get going.

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Women cannot open men at all.

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I’ve been thinking about this, why bother trying to game the maybe girls? Why not just take the yes girls?

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Roosh, you are the man. I love the look of a woman in real life too.