I’ve had a front-row seat in the culture war for over a decade, but I haven’t made any big policy declarations like other movements. Men’s rights activists have their “family law reform” platform. The MGTOW group has “legalize prostitution and invent realistic sex bots.” The alt right has “white ethno-state.” The alt lite has “civic nationalism.” When it comes to policy, I’ve been quiet, solely focusing on fostering truth and masculinity. Only now am I ready to make the commitment to a policy platform which nips the essential problem in the bud in a way that other movements do not. We must repeal women’s suffrage, starting with the 19th Amendment in the United States. Once this is accomplished, no other planned or conscious action must be taken to solve nearly all our societal ills.

The origin of our problems

Today’s problems are all branches of a radical leftist root that has been normalized through feminism, social justice, and socialism. Allowing women to vote has made it effortless to elect leftist politicians who hate the family unit, men, and healthy market competition, while simultaneously weakening society by pushing women into work and giving them generous welfare in the form of handouts to single moms and the able-bodied along with make-work jobs for females in bloated government bureaucracies.

Thanks to leftism, we have seen the rise of a techno-matriarchy with an agenda of male disempowerment and persecution that transfers resources and soft power from men to women while solidifying hard power among elite globalists who control it all to uphold their own high-level aims. Individual globalists work together as an oligarchy to enact a divide-and-conquer strategy among races and sexes to fund leftist causes, politicians, and NGOs. The group with the most money to influence “democratic” politics and public opinion implants their useful idiots and political puppets to maintain control.

These puppets, whether on the “right” or “left,” have a true center on the left end of the spectrum for the sheer reason that votes from women must be gained. The manosphere cannon has shown that women have special mental faculties that operate almost exclusively on emotion, submission, and social conflict more than logic, dominance, and merit. Western countries have transformed into a national representation of the female psyche.

Appeasing women leads to civilizational destruction

To appease female voters and their destructive nature of promiscuity and drama, a symptom of which is collectively propelling a book about a woman being brutally dominated by a man (50 Shades Of Grey) to one of the best selling books of all time, society has veered so far to the left that it is crumbling at its base through declining birth rates and collapse of the family unit. Because we have given women suffrage, it has become necessary to gain their votes by promising whatever they want in the moment, including the removal of all gates to the sexual market so they can engage in the great game of “alpha male hunting,” which has led to such unbridled chaos and sterility that we have to import third-world people as these empowered female voters abort nearly 60 million American babies. The demographic crisis the West faces today is primarily due to allowing women to do as they please instead of imposing healthy standards on their behavior and choices. The direct cause of this horror movie is giving women the vote.

I haven’t even touched the surface of the problems we have today that stem from having to appeal to the female vote: lowering of academic standards in universities to allow them to “excel,” promotion of degeneracy in media, invention of apps and technology to allow frictionless casual sex with bad boys, promotion of sex change operations among children, re-defining fat women as “beautiful at any size,” legalization of gay marriage, use of murder (abortion) as birth control, maligning normal masculinity as “toxic masculinity,” and elevation of damaging myths such as “rape culture” and the “wage gap” to foment gender fear and confusion. The culture has degraded because women have been at the forefront of degrading it. Their true nature, once unimpaired by societal limits, embarks on a tragic mission of destruction to recreate reality in a way to make them appear more attractive to high-status men, no matter the consequence.

The problems I mentioned above would take thousands of local and Federal laws to address individually, and it would meet intense opposition from globalists who would fund the sort of antifascist protests and Deep State interference that we have seen thwarting Donald Trump. And even if those thousands of laws are passed, there is no guarantee that a renewed leftward push, thanks to ongoing demographic changes, wouldn’t roll them back. Is there a way to solve the problems while being assured that they couldn’t be repealed over the course of several generations? I’ve thought about this dilemma for years, after scratching the surface with previous thought experiments, and can only come to one conclusion: the problems in society can only be solved, and remain solved beyond one generation, by repealing women’s suffrage.

The ultimate solution

Take away the power of women to vote, and the degradation stops. The paltry population of male feminists, who are likely suffering from low testosterone due to environmental plastics, would offer no barrier in stopping the return to patriarchal normalcy. Women, helpless at enacting political change, would just whine and nag endlessly, and when they tire themselves out, they’d complete their protest by buying dildos or cats. Consider that no Democratic candidate for President since Jimmy Carter would have likely won if women were not allowed to vote. Upon repeal of women’s suffrage, a new party to the right of Republicans would be created as conservative men seek true conservatism and tradition.

Remove a woman’s right to vote and within just one national election, every single leftist party would be crushed. Within two elections, politicians would speak directly to men and their innate interest for patriarchy, economic success, stable families, and an equitable distribution of females among society. More than half of the candidates running for office would already be more conservative than Donald Trump, who is still liberal on social issues like equality and gay marriage.

Within three elections, the entirety of the liberal platform of the past 50 years would be rolled back, and the only living audience a woman can gain for her political opinions is from her feline friends. Within four elections, the global elite would be forced to retrench while sitting on billions of capital with no direct path of influence except sponsoring color revolutions and coups that can be defeated in the name of patriotic national defense. By then, the power of NGOs, media outlets, and day care universities will have declined. Within five elections, cultural standards would have tamed the sexual marketplace, and birth rates would rise once more as both women and men see the incentive in spending their free time building families instead of endlessly trying to secure a sex partner for the fleeting moment.

Repealing women’s suffrage would also diminish other dissident movements whose solutions can only bring temporary success as long as women have the right to vote. Men will automatically push laws that account for men’s rights. They will automatically regulate the sexual marketplace to make it more fair, diminishing MGTOW. They will automatically regulate immigration and replace it with a policy of natalism, diminishing the alt right. And they will automatically have high standards for citizenship, diminishing the alt lite.

Even the concept of masculinity will be built into the crust of society where only men have a political voice and not women. My game guides would no longer be needed, allowing me to buy land and operate a real farm instead of a content farm where most of my life has been spent pushing back the harmful effects that were unleashed after allowing women to vote. There will be no need for counter-cultural movements of men when those in charge of national politics only need to cater to male votes. If women’s suffrage is repealed, the most reviled dissident today would even be able to easily attain political office.

Conclusion

It should be clear to you that women will always use their votes to destroy themselves and their nations, to invite invaders with open legs, to persecute their own men, and to ravage their economies with socialism. Because they don’t operate on logic like men do, you will always have this destructive element within the political ranks of your nation as long as women have the right to vote. Giving them this right was a terrible mistake. I can now claim to have one political dream, and that is to repeal women’s suffrage. I will vote only for politicians who put me closer to realizing this necessary goal. Within my lifetime, I’m certain that at least one country, in an attempt to save itself, will elevate a barbarous and ferocious strongman to fulfill this task, and he will have my full support, because repealing women’s suffrage is the only issue of our day that can single-handedly solve all the others.

Read Next: Women Must Have Their Behavior And Decisions Controlled By Men

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Greboada
Greboada
3 years ago

I’m afraid that if that worked, Muslim countries would be swimming in gold.

Mark Sweeter
Mark Sweeter
3 years ago
Reply to  Greboada

I think they are! LOL

UAE… Saudi Arabia.. Dubai… to name a few.

disqus_2015ScorpioWater
disqus_2015ScorpioWater
3 years ago
Reply to  Mark Sweeter

All those countries swimming in money, and despite the hoopla over “civil rights” the average citizen in those places are much better off than most Americans. Also its the USA that has the highest incarceration rate in the world, much higher than any of these rich Muslim countries. Even if you factor in capital punishment in these places its still does not make up for what is a prison industrial complex in America.

Roosh
3 years ago
Reply to  Greboada

The goal isn’t material wealth, and last time I checked, Muslim countries don’t promote homosexuality, abortion, trannies, hookup culture, etc etc.

Maximus Decimus Meridius
Reply to  Roosh

This is why I would love to see you run a Twitter poll with only two options as a thought experiment.

Q: Given no alternative choice, would you rather have a government/culture run by:

a) Feminists/SJWs/LGBTQ and socialist/communists
b) Islam

I think the results will shock even the most rabid anti-Islam thinkers on ROK. When the chips are down, men will go with Islam.

Aurelius
Aurelius
3 years ago

Feminist government would be easier to overthrow.

I dont know, i would be an insurgent in either case.

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
3 years ago

“When the chips are down, men will go with Islam.”
—————
If this new Trumpian revolution thing fails you can bet that’s what men will turn to.

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
3 years ago

I think you’re right…

Maureen Windisch
Maureen Windisch
3 years ago

If it fails…you mean when it fails…in fact it already is failing. He is a joke. The white house is already apologizing for him. Men who subscribe to this way of thinking are doomed…women are self reliant out of necessity. Sorry you boys don’t see this. Boys that read and believe this should learn to step it up and be the man most women know they can be. Sadly many women have given up on you but I am wishing you all the best in your journey. I believe you can turn things around…peace.

SKR Nadar
SKR Nadar
3 years ago

In fact, many are finding masculine solace in Islam.

anon1
anon1
3 years ago

the problem is that western traditionalists and chauvinists and muslims have a lot in common with each other but the younger end of muslims got caught up with all the sjw leftist bullshit the colleges told them to think, which soros encouraged to drive a wedge between a pan traditionalist/nationalist view of things. They’re taught bs about the west by far left professors and begin to internalise this bullshit about “Scientific colonialism” and the like. the left has taught young people to think mathematical and science facts are ‘racist’. see-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUPsGDFZzVM

you are seeing a few hotep type pro trump muslims but its not openly said because they’ll get their shit kicked in by other peeps that prefer perma victim status.

I’d like a pan traditionalist base to occur but realistically it won’t.

The second problem is that with the deus vult revival movement and the geopolitics of the left pushing muslim migrants in without any kind of vetts and checks on compatibility or anything you’re getting a ‘muslims’ from problem regions with a completely backwards view on treatment of women etc being placed in white areas and around vulnerable women.

the sex starved peeps from problem regions where brutality is common bring their ideas back here.

granted its not so abnormal to see the same sort of loutishness on a saturday night outside a nightclub but these people are sober, they don’t have any kind of inebriation led excuse. and they are targeting the young in a way you’d only see in bachi baza [weird fucked up cultural traditions of pederasty in aghanistan] or by elites in political circles or the media [jimmy saville et al]

the thing is on muslims, is that there’s different gradations of people coming in. you can’t say a lebanese muslim or an indian sufi, is going to have the same super strict super authoritarianist view as a wahhabist from saudi or the gulf states.

and while there is a lot of apolitical muslims who maybe very strict with their faith privately, they’re not the ones doing the raping or groping or whatnot that is occurring in places like sweden and rotherham.

similarly there maybe some good muslims from the gulf states as well but its difficult to look at everything on a case by case basis.

i hope there’s a broader pathway between traditionalists from the west and muslim traditionalists to break bread together on, but realistically i don’t think that would happen and the elites certainly don’t want that to happen.

they want to use muslims push them into areas to keep the country in conflict so they can enact further vacuuming up of money and power at the top. they want to specifically allow for illegal immigration of the worst of the rest of the world rather than the many educated legal migrants possibly even from the same areas that are seeking to come in the normal way.

why is this? my only conclusion is that its a practise of deliberate division to keep the elites remaining at the top while society fights amongst itself.

Real talk on where the world is moving:
———————————————-
There’s a war on family, there’s a deliberate scientific, food, water and social policy geared towards increase sterility, infertility and forcing hedonism and individualism over caring for and protecting one’s family and community.

I have no doubt in a few years we’ll learn that wifi signals and other accoutrements we take for granted actually cause impotency. its all part of a plan to weaken the people and reinforce the sick elites at the top.

And don’t even get me started on the normalisation of pedos that the world seems to be doing [first L,G then Trans, next is normalising children as adults capable of consent and then all the slave shit these fat elites are doing in poor 3rd world countries will be be done openly in the west as well]. why was rotherham covered up? probably because the elites do it too, and it was a test case.

Clark Kent
Clark Kent
3 years ago

Here’s another one.

Q: Given no alternative choice, would you rather Europe in ten years to be:

(a) Racially European but Muslim religion.
(b) Racially Arab but Christian religion.

I wont speak for anyone but myself on this one, I’d choose (a).

Stadtaffe
Stadtaffe
3 years ago

Not sure about that one but if it’s between white ultranationalists and islam I will definitely take the former.

Metin K.
Metin K.
3 years ago

“When the victory of Allah has come and the conquest,
And you see the people entering into the religion of Allah in multitudes,
Then exalt [Him] with praise of your Lord and ask forgiveness of Him. Indeed, He is ever Accepting of repentance.” (An-Nasr, nasr means help, triumph)

But understand that Islamic countries have problems of their own. Most obvious one in my opinion, again in Koran shortly expressed as:

“Allah will place defilement upon those who will not use reason.” (Jonah 10:100)

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Plus there are many variants of Patriarchy as evident in history. Some work far better than others.

anon1
anon1
3 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

though this is true, iran forces their gays to turn into post-op trannies which i always thought was indicative of a rather dark sense of humour by the peeps in charge at the top.

no its not castrations, its just ‘gender reassignment’. libs don’t know what to make of it

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/11/05/report-iran-forcing-gays-and-lesbian-into-gender-reassignment-surgery/

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Why Muslim Patriarchy is so dysfunctional in comparison with other Patriarchies like Christianity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wikEctQIRSs

disqus_2015ScorpioWater
disqus_2015ScorpioWater
3 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

That is a picture of Freud on the left, and he was a Jew, most of the Jews have been working against the interests of traditional patriarchy, they completely turned western society upside down with feminism.

DearLife
DearLife
3 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

Aren’t you muslim, Roosh?

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Greboada

Islam isn’t the only historical Patriarchy. Christianity has been a Patriarchy most successful until recently.

Not all Patriarchies are equal.

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Greboada

Muhammad effectively had no Father hence why Islamic Patriarchy is so dysfunctional:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wikEctQIRSs

Murky water
Murky water
3 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

dude do you realize the guy in this video tried to kill his own father with a hammer?

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Murky water

He repented. But that doesn’t change the facts.

Murky water
Murky water
3 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

The truth is the master and we are the slave. That’s reality. The truth should not be characterized as a father figure, that makes no sense. We are forced into existence and eventually we will be forced out of it. We are slaves.

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Murky water

I think you are missing the point of the video.

Murky water
Murky water
3 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

It is no secret that Islam ended the concept of trinity. God used Muhammad as his messenger to end the trinity, as it was leading us astray. Now we worship God as one- no father or son, just the Holy Spirit.

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Murky water

If we are flatlanders. Then the Trinity is akin to a 3d object passing through the flatland. We don’t see the complete picture.

Untergang07
Untergang07
3 years ago
Reply to  Greboada

Neither did Germany, UK and the rest of Europe at the height of our power, or the U.S. in the greatest moment of its economic history have women suffrage…

DJohnson
DJohnson
2 years ago
Reply to  Greboada

That is an erroneous comparison. The muslim culture is completely different. Prior to sufferage, American/Western men had utmost respect for women and treated them “MORE THAN EQUALLY” on a social/family basis! Cop a clue. You have to look deeper into the facts than your dopey superficial statement.

A. Petros
A. Petros
3 years ago

You are beating me to it Roosh. I’m currently making a documentary covering some of these aspects. What is unexpected (or expected depending on how red pilled you are) is that the original suffrage movement acted like modern day antifa. They caused petty vandalism, terrorist themed attacks, public threats and were well funded by unknown individuals.

There were also red pilled men that fought against the movement. They knew exactly what would happen and predicted the predicament we are in now.

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
3 years ago
Reply to  A. Petros

“the original suffrage movement acted like modern day antifa”
—————————
Yes, the left has always been violent.
It’s just that their image had always been protected by a professional media class acting in their best interests.
But now with broadband and cameras everywhere people, for the first time, are seeing them for what they really are.
I think that’s the real reason the right is making a comeback.
Not because the internet uncensors the right (as is commonly believed) but instead because it uncensors the left.

Stadtaffe
Stadtaffe
3 years ago
Reply to  A. Petros

People used to theorise about what would happen if restrictions were relaxed, genies were let out of their bottles. The doom-sayers were brushed aside as old-fashioned but it really has unleashed something and is hard to stuff it back in

Laguna Beach Fogey
Laguna Beach Fogey
3 years ago

I can get on board with this. Taking away the female vote is much more radical than most in the Alt-Right and Alt-Lite are willing to go, so well done.

Aurelius
Aurelius
3 years ago

Even when I was a conservative I was all like women shouldnt vote.

Melissa Jane
Melissa Jane
3 years ago

Should gay men have the right to vote? They are often more effeminate, dramatic, and whiny than most females today.

Plus, they buy dildos and cats too.

A. Petros
A. Petros
3 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Jane

Leviticus 20:13

Melissa Jane
Melissa Jane
3 years ago
Reply to  A. Petros
A. Petros
A. Petros
3 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Jane

I’m gonna add that to the list:

The best epidemiological evidence indicates that only 2 to 4 percent of men attracted to adults prefer men (ACSF Investigators, 1992; Billy et al.,1993; Fay et al.,1989; Johnson et al.,1992); in contrast, around 25 to 40 percent of men attracted to children prefer boys (Blanchard et al.,1999; Gebhard et al.,1965; Mohr et al.,1964). Thus, the rate of homosexual attraction is 6 to 20 times higher among pedophiles.”
Ray Blanchard, et al., “Fraternal Birth Order and Sexual Orientation in Pedophiles,” Archives of Sexual Behavior 29 (2000): 464.

Homosexuals recorded a mean of 1.9 sexual partners in the last month (SD 3.4).
(Landovitz et al., J Urban Health. Aug 2013; 90(4): 729–739.)

“(48 %) of the participants reported drug or alcohol use during sex in the past month, and among those, 91.7 % reported alcohol use at the time of sex, 59.7 % marijuana use, 34.8 % amyl nitrate or other inhalants, 30.4 % ecstasy (MDMA), 27.1 % cocaine, and 14.4 % methamphetamine.”
(Landovitz et al., J Urban Health. Aug 2013; 90(4): 729–739.)

Only 4.5% of homosexual males report sexual fidelity.
(McWhirter and Mattison, The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop (1984): 252-253; Wiederman, “Extramarital Sex,” 170)

in the precious 6 months, 46% of male homosexuals had 2 to 10 partners, 20% had 11 to 50, and 5.6% had 50 or more sexual partners.
(Paul Van de Ven, et. al., Queensland Gay Community Periodic Survey: June 1999. Sydney: National Centre in HIV Social Research, 1999, 18.)

“While CDC estimates that only 4 percent of men in the United States are MSM, the rate of new HIV diagnoses among MSM in the United States is more than 44 times that of other men” CDC Fact Sheet
28500 homosexual males contracted HIV in 2010. Now contrast that to heterosexual males ~3800. Considering homosexual males account for 4% of men, that is a HUGE discrepancy.

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Jane

Originally only men of property were allowed to vote. Or men who were hoplites in Ancient Greece.

Its not a free for all even for men.

Melissa Jane
Melissa Jane
3 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

Something has to change. A radical change, because the society we have now is awful. It’s a dysgenic society that cannot possibly be sustained much longer.

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Jane

Rolling back welfare will do wonders.

Eric
Eric
3 years ago
Reply to  Titan000

Heinlein suggested (in his book Starship Troopers) that service in the military should be a prerequisite to the right to vote. There’s some wisdom there . . .

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Eric

Unless the military is utterly pozzed.

Stonehands
Stonehands
3 years ago
Reply to  Melissa Jane

No voting for gays. Sodomy laws should be reinstated State by State, and enforced the moment some one leaves their house and proclaims they are a pervert.

Slashfund
Slashfund
3 years ago

need to get rid of general voting, submissive and emotional women are too perfect as voters for candidates not to include them

AwesomeSauce
AwesomeSauce
3 years ago

All democracies end with one side becoming a demonstrable majority then oppressing & genocide-ing the minority. Before Obama left office he said on an interview with a Yahoo journalist, “regardless of Trump, America will become a browner country”. In other words, ticktock cracka ticktock…

Maximus Decimus Meridius

Roosh… well thought out post and something I concluded a while back. I also think this is going to come to be reality faster than you think. It will either be a take over by conservative, traditional nationalists that will take power BECAUSE the destruction of feminism/LGBT will be impossible to ignore any longer. When that happens, taking away the vote will be a gimme. And if this does not happen, Islam is coming and will do the job in the end. I prefer the former, but won’t reject the latter when it happens.

Aurelius
Aurelius
3 years ago

I need an answer to this question:

Is game simply the practice of passing shit tests?

Chris Nystrom
Chris Nystrom
3 years ago
Reply to  Aurelius

No.

Michael Maier
Michael Maier
3 years ago

My great-grandparents were RETARDS for letting bitches get the vote. It’s been all shit since.

temmy9 .
temmy9 .
3 years ago

You cannot save the dead.

We do not live in the west. We live in the antiwest. Lets destroy the antiwest, then build a new west with they best of the old west.

whorton
whorton
2 years ago
Reply to  temmy9 .

Where is John Galt when you need him?

evilwhitemalempire
evilwhitemalempire
3 years ago

“Remove a woman’s right to vote and within just one national election, every single leftist party would be crushed.”
—————-
Conservatives consistently overlook the primary cause of liberalism.
Women.
Not dykes or even feminists per se.
Just ordinary women.

Todd
Todd
3 years ago

A similar thing happens in Houellebecq’s Submission, where the peaceful Islamic takeover of France uses the elimination of women’s suffrage to act as a stabilizer. Heavily indebted France instantly gets an economic boost when all women are barred from industry and university. Wages go up, and the population is assured of a demographic reversal now that women are forced to become mothers again. The fertility crisis ends, and the future of Muslim France is secure.

Not sure if the 19th amendment can be reversed in America as everything is too fractured on all fronts. Roosh- do you think a balkanized state with a strongman, and a return to patriarchy and tradition without Islam can occur in parts of America? Also what European countries are most likely to attempt to save their civilization? Very difficult to predict the future as the last year has shown, but very difficult to see this playing out without a giant economic collapse/Islamization occuring in the West.

Roosh
3 years ago
Reply to  Todd

Good questions, I’ll think about them.

zbyszek
zbyszek
3 years ago
Reply to  Todd

Country gets an economic boost as half of the labor force are barred from work and wages go up? This is absolute nonsense and ignorance.

Examples abound. Japan’s economic depression since 1990 happened partly because the women have been kept out of the labor force. In the US, the last time an attempt was made to massively pump up real wages was during FDR’s New Deal and resulted in remarkably weak recovery from the great depression prior to 1939.

I understand that you guys may advocate certain policies at the expense of economic growth and material well-being. But don’t invent bullshit, just like Trump telling his blind supporters during the debate that he’ll make the US grow by 6% and more per year.

Todd
Todd
3 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

Read my first paragraph again. I stated “In Houellebecq’s Submission,” which is a fictional story. All of the things mentioned are what the Islamists claimed would happen as a consequence from barring women from the workforce. There was initial rejection, followed by submission as they felt it would boost wages and reduce debts/costs, among other benefits. A small segment of the novel, where the more important themes are the impotence of the French population and indifference/latent enthusiasm for the new order. Read the book for further understanding.

redpillyogi
3 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

Japan has arguably the most advanced society on this god forsaken planet. More fake news there pal. Venezuela is a great example of a country in an economic depression, not Japan.

barrowsron .
barrowsron .
3 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

Agree that the US had a weak recovery in the Great Depression. But it is interesting studying the German economic experience in the 1930s. Their economy was similarly bad in 1933 with unemployment over 30%.

But unlike United States, they hit full employment in 4 years after 1933. Birth rates boomed. Household consumption. Stock market. Farm output – everything I’ve seen so far has been positive.

What did Germany do from 1933-1937? Massive public infrastructure spending, taking Germany off the gold standard, large 0% interest marriage loans/subsidies to encourage family formation, national health insurance.

I’m definitely not on the “Hitler did nothing wrong” meme. Hitler did almost everything else wrong.

But I’m having a hard time finding a good libertarian counter argument that German economic policy in the 1930s was bad.

Everything I find is “evil racist Nazi!” or “socialists stealing money!” rather than an actual argument against the methods Germany used to create material well-being and economic growth for its people pre-1939.

If you want to argue the ethical implications against large government intervention in the economy like that of 1930s Germany, that’s fair. But I’ve yet to see someone tell me why German policies were ineffective, or rather, weren’t as effective as they appear to have been.

Stonehands
Stonehands
3 years ago
Reply to  zbyszek

If women were kicked out of the work force, owners would have to pay the workers twice as much- as they would have to innovate and work harder…The jap women were never IN the work force.

That’s not inventing bullshit, that’s supply and demand, numbnuts.

Melissa Jane
Melissa Jane
3 years ago
Reply to  Todd

Women in Islam were at one time looked upon as teachers and scholars of the hadiths. They were used within Islamic society for upholding the spiritual and educational needs of the community. It isn’t like that so much anymore,

This particular book details the history. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43a55123616f0beee8e1852eab36067bbcdde786828541ae5895f4abb3ce1c4a.png

Titan000
Titan000
3 years ago
Reply to  Todd

We would not want Islamic Patriarchy. Its highly dysfunctional due to the fact that its founder did not actually have a Father to model his Patriarchy after:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wikEctQIRSs

Cynthianna Sparre
Cynthianna Sparre
3 years ago

I would gladly forfeit my right to vote in order to gain the societal rewards this article talks about. Hell, I already only vote the way my husband does, anyway.

MCGOO
MCGOO
3 years ago

That’s a good call to make – – “repeal women’s suffrage”. I hear no one else saying outright to BAN women’s suffrage, not anywhere on the left-right spectrum. But it is true the woman vote must be rescinded. It is the ultimate and true position to adhere to. Stick to this position like it was gorilla tape.

When women vote, they always end up voting for the ‘pussy pass’, when in truth the pussy pass should never even be put forth as an option any more than a ballot should be offered voting yay or nay whether or not to burn civilization to the ground and blow the place up. It is proven insanity to let women decide on any matters larger than my thumb. The pussy pass translates to roughly the same thing as incinerating the planet while howling like insane banshees. It is the most perfect madness. No liquor or drugs can ever do that to mankind, only women loosed from the grip of men. Woman cannot navigate space or traverse in three consecutive points in a straight line. She needs the straight edge rule OF MAN to move with her species within the universe. OBSERVE a group of woman independently moving anywhere and the place looks like a wobbly vertigo outbreak. Sounds and vision blur like a hallucinogen was in effect. The place appears as an insane asylum. But it is only woman run amok. STOP HER and put her under man’s rule and voila you see no insane asylum. It was only the thrashings and lamentations of the vagabond female. It was only the woman’s retrograde and rudderless tailspinning.

IN MAN’S HAND and confined within his grip, there is divine order and the woman blossoms. She is the sweet nectar of mankind’s pollination.
BUT LOOSED and wild she is putrid rotten fruit. She scorches everything she touches and the Earth becomes maddened and looks like a dying chuck of charcoal in space. Under woman rule mankind dies and woman rules like a soulless alpha hairless ape. But under the custodianship of man the earth lives and blossoms green with the woman strapped and yoked by the divine rule of the patriarch. With woman properly straightjacketed, mankind can then step off the plane of Earth and evolve higher. He ascends and graduates at last. You see, we humans were placed here on Earth in the first place to conquer the bitch and contain her madness. That’s why we mustn’t fail.

Robert17
Robert17
3 years ago

The real problem is single women voting goodies for themselves out of the treasury. Restrict the vote to the married, widowed and those serving in the military.

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
3 years ago
Reply to  Robert17

That makes sense! I would also add that the voting age needs to be raised.

jimmy
jimmy
3 years ago
Reply to  AlFromBayShore

That’s the quickest and easiest thing we could accomplish. By raising it to 35 for example we would stop women in their 20s getting to distort everything.

Then we can move on to stopping single women voting.

dude
dude
3 years ago

So in short, it was never your fault to begin with? As always, blame someone else, instead of realizing your own shortcomings. According to you, women are like water, which is to say, they merely reflect their environment, taking on its form. As such then, they can never be at the pole of the cause, only that of the effect. Which would mean that the cause is in the degeneration of western man himself. Women are merely following suit. Given that that is the case, have you personally succeeded in identifying what this specific degeneration is within western man himself, and thus offering a remedy to it? Given your frenetic and highly inconsistent posts, I doubt it. To me, the funniest one was when you alleged that an “agent of lucifer” had been influencing you and causing you to further promote promiscuity among western men via the publishing of your books ” bang “. So:

1. You allege that women are like water, essentially removing any sense of agency from them. How then can any of their actions be at the root cause of your problems??They have no agency, no?

2. Given 1., then the root cause is found in western man, whose vices you only encourage and cultivate. You encourage him to use whatever little intellect he has left to satisfy his instincts. His mind has descended to his stomach and genitals. [game, being a man-whore, your ” bang” series, etc.]

3. You appear to be lost in a sort of conceptual schism. On the one hand, western man should take advantage of the degeneracy around him (even though he is the cause of it) and at the same time, he should try to fight it (how? well by blaming women of course. Western man whom you seem to lust for is after all infallible according to you!)

And on and on it goes. People are stupid and eat shit so long as you wrap it with a golden bow. Your entire franchise is shit, and the golden bow you’ve used to wrap it with is the advocating of the supremacy of the western man. I don’t know whether to commend you for taking advantage of their stupidity and making a living out of it, or to punch you in the face for being a jerk >D.

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
3 years ago
Reply to  dude

Wait a minute. There could be something to Roosh’s point. Many of the expansions of national (federal) government power, which came through the Progressive Amendments (16, 17, 18, and 19) and congressional legislation, came at a time when women possessed suffrage in a majority of the states. By the time the 19th Amendment was ratified, women had the right to vote in national elections in 34 of the 48 states. Before you dismiss Roosh’s argument, I think you ought do some research.

I’m not completely on board with the blame women’s suffrage argument but I do find favor with the idea that women are more likely to support policies which expand the power of central government which undermines individual freedom. Prohibition was a women’s movement.

I also believe that a major problem is the form of government formed by the Constitution. Prior to ratification, the Articles of Confederation formed a national government which derived power from the States. After ratification, the Constitution formed a national government with the powers to both grow in size, power, and complexity AND, take away power from the States. Or put simply, the Constitution formed a national government in which States would eventually derive power from the national government.

And then there is the 10th Amendment which is supposed to serve as a barrier to government encroachment upon the power of the States. That was doomed to failure because the Constitution’s general body gave national government the power to encroach upon that amendment, and the preceding 9. The 10th Amendment, which is part of the Bill of Rights, had few meaningful enforcement mechanisms. In other words, the Constitution’s general body is powerfully weighted against the Bill of Rights. What we have to day is the result of this configuration which gave expression to women’s tendency to support expansions of national government power. Indeed, there may be something to be said about Roosh’s anti-suffragist claims!

History lends support to Roosh’s argument. I however, also factor the breathtaking expansion of national government power that resulted from the ratification of the Constitution. I see validity in the Roosh’s argument but, at the same time, I think the greater problem is the amount of power granted to the national government by the Constitution. The Anti-Federalists, I believe, were right.

dude
dude
3 years ago
Reply to  AlFromBayShore

You are merely repeating what he says, without addressing any of the points that I raise. I’ve addressed the points he has raised by pointing out their logical inconsistency with some of the main views he has, especially the failure in properly identifying the cause of all this. Please go through and address what I said, especially the three points that I raised, and then let’s have a candid discussion about it if you want.

AlFromBayShore
AlFromBayShore
3 years ago
Reply to  dude

The only thing I am repeating, or agreeing with, is Roosh’s idea that women support expansive government policies; that when women were permitted the right of suffrage (whether on the state or national level) they voted for such policies. The experience of American history supports this. Are you going to argue that women, as a constituency, do not vote in favor of expansive government policies?

My response to you was pointing out my agreement on that particular issue, and to introduce a feature of our national government which enabled voting preferences formed as a result of suffrage. Suffrage made it possible for women to pursue expansionist preferences at the ballot box.

My “repeating”, which is an agreement, ends there for I also blame the way our national government was reconfigured after the ratification of the Constitution. This reconfiguration provided our national government with the “tools and instruments” to encroach upon the rights of the States. This eventually happened and the United States government has evolved into a consolidated union in which state governments are becoming administrative centers of Washington, D.C. The experience of American history supports this.

In my opinion, the Articles of Confederation provided structural checks upon voting patterns that undermine the rights of the States – barriers used to protect individual rights. The Constitution, on the other hand, provided only parchment (legal) barriers to these voting preferences. Women, as a voting bloc, tend to support national policies that undermine the limited sovereignty of the States provided by federalism. Suffrage created a big government constituency that was enabled by the expansive tools embedded in the Constitution.

The Articles, in my opinion, would have done a better job at “checking” the big government (statist) tendencies of big government constituencies. Women are a big government constituency. The greater share of blame, in my opinion, belongs with the government formed by the Constitution. Do not read this to mean that I believe that women’s voting preferences are not a factor.

dude
dude
3 years ago
Reply to  AlFromBayShore

Alright, fair enough, I appreciate the civil response. But it still does not address any of the points that I have personally raised. If women are incapable of agency then even in those days are they not a reflection of the men as well as the prevailing environment that they lived in? Thus the degeneracy goes back much further than today. The men of those days were already degenerates even though it’s to a lesser degree than the men of today. The women and their actions merely reflected this.

Which brings us back to the main point: that the cause is a degeneration within western man himself whose beginning isn’t at all recent. Going back to ” the way things were those days ” is simply going back to a lesser degeneration and does not cure and do away with the degeneration itself.

It also brings me to another point: that one big issue with the ” manosphere ” is the inability to take responsibility for the state of the west today. It’s always someone else: blacks,Jews,women,Muslims and so on. It’s even evident in Roosh himself who tried to explain his promotion of this degeneracy among men by placing blame on an ” agent of lucifer ” who apparently manipulated him into promoting the vices that continue to destroy the west as a whole today. Isn’t that funny? According to Roosh, it’s also not his fault that he wrote/writes(?) his bang series. It’s always someone else who is at fault…

JuanPeron
JuanPeron
3 years ago
Reply to  dude

I can only hope that despite your name being “dude” that you’re actually a female trolling this site. If you are indeed male, I strongly suggest you read a prior post about low testosterone levels.

dude
dude
3 years ago
Reply to  JuanPeron

I am a man, who has pointed out the logical inconsistencies in the entire “ROK” franchise and its failure at providing any valid solution to the prevailing problem in the west. Your personal attacks at me won’t make up for what you lack: which is the ability to logically provide counter arguments to all that I’ve raised. Since in the “manosphere” you are all fond of pointing out that women are incapable of logic, and given your failure at displaying any logic, I’d say that you’re the one who needs to check his testosterone levels, if you are insinuating that mine are low.

jst4fun
jst4fun
3 years ago
Reply to  dude

I liked this post, but not the obvious hostility it projects. You may have pointed out a flaw or some flaws with Roosh’s arguments but that doesn’t invalidate some of the honest and truthful observations he makes. The part about blaming women is a good observation. They are not exclusively to blame. Both men and women share the blame. But at least you agree that there has been a degeneration of society. You admit that somethings from the past were better and there is a problem that needs a solution. To answer your question, the degeneration of men..and women for that matter, is the inability to effectively assimilate new technologies, like “the pill” and machines into society. There have been negative affects that give us, as a society, the choice to follow healthy or unhealthy behaviors. We had less choice before, because of biology, men had to work and women raise the family. Today, not true. Our available choices, were geared toward a healthy family. An example, before the Atom bomb, we had no choice, wars would never lead to global annihilation. Today, every conflict is a choice not to destroy humanity through using a technology that has the capability.

Rafael Alva
Rafael Alva
3 years ago

Women currently compose 55% of the electorate. What ways do you suggest convincing them? Should we draft them and see how they like equality?

Sean Toddington
Sean Toddington
3 years ago
Reply to  Rafael Alva

Some of them get it – for example Pudgy, sorry Judgy Bitch has a piece where she argues women shouldn’t have the vote. Bur you’re right, achieving this via democratic means could be problematic.

Roosh
3 years ago
Reply to  Rafael Alva

No need to convince. Just do it. What are they going to do?

No More Fakery
No More Fakery
3 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

No need to convince. Just do it. What are they going to do?

They’d shriek and complain but after a while they’d just sulk and finally accept the new dispensation. Succeeding generations of females would not remember the gynolatrous ancien regime, and would not hanker after it.

The bigger question is who is going to “just do it”? Personally, I’ve long thought that women’s suffrage should be repealed, but whenever I’ve mentioned it to other men, they say, “Ooh, I don’t know about that!”

As usual, the real problem is brainwashed men…

Maureen Windisch
Maureen Windisch
3 years ago
Reply to  No More Fakery

The boys here seem hopelessly lonely…sad.

JuanPeron
JuanPeron
3 years ago

The right to vote should be limited to males who pass a literacy test and have a W2 from the previous tax year. Once that happens, things will turn around SO quickly in this country and we’ll avoid what appears to be the ultimate demise of Western Civilization.

Stonehands
Stonehands
3 years ago
Reply to  JuanPeron

Yeh, sure- proof from the IRS that I paid the vagina/nigger jobs program…

Bryan King
Bryan King
3 years ago

What do you think about a modification to the 19th, to allow only property owning single women to vote?

Roosh
3 years ago
Reply to  Bryan King

It would help, but still only go halfway.

Novos Imperator
Novos Imperator
3 years ago

Fantastic work as always Roosh, the suffrage movement was indeed one of the major spearheads to the rise of far-leftism in the Western world. As many positives as repealing this act would have, I don’t think that’s an incredibly realistic goal in North America & UK for the near future. For them to see the destructive effects of unsustainable birth rates, we would have to cut off all third world immigration which would throw leftists into a fit of hysteria stemming from their complete lack of will to live & sustain their culture. I think a broader change of values from within is necessary.

Islamism is most certainly NOT the answer. Western Patriarchy differs greatly with Middle-Eastern Patriarchy and ours is far superior. A modern Western patriarchy would be a place of discovery and artistic expression, but also where the women of the nation state would not turn their backs on their biological duty to create and nurture life in sustainable amounts. An Islamist patriarchy is simply a Theocracy where nobody is free and the aristocrats have more control over the general public than they do in the West (it’s hard to imagine that being possible).

My ideal is 19th century England, the peak of the greatest Empire humanity has ever birthed. The economy was booming, major advancements in science and technology were frequent, and married couples were having an average of 6 children per family. Even London, the urban center of the entire world was experiencing a 2% population growth/year.

I have deep faith in the possibility that we can achieve a balance between the modernity of urban life coupled with patriarchal values that keep our society sustainable and strong. The way to do this is not necessarily to take away women’s right to vote (although that would help a shitload), but support intelligent and free thinking communities like this one and RoK that seek to pursue truth. Eventually they will have to concede that their ways are wrong… they HAVE to be wrong, not a single country that supports feminism is sustainable outside of immigration from patriarchal nations. That fact alone crushes the entire neo-feminist agenda.

I think maybe we need a version of RoK that’s targeted to women so we can properly frame things for them. That way they can come down from the mountain of nonsense they’ve climbed on top of.

Roosh
3 years ago

“I think maybe we need a version of RoK that’s targeted to women so we can properly frame things for them. ”

I agree. I’m in the early planning stages for such a project.

Stadtaffe
Stadtaffe
3 years ago
Reply to  Roosh

I wish I could get wake up my girlfriend to red pill values before her lefty ways cause us to break up, but am not willing to show her this website as much as I like it. Must be some books around for this..

John Freeman
John Freeman
3 years ago

That will only get us halfway there. Mass media and liberal males are massive contributors to the social ruin we have suffered. As long as you have a hostile alien elite in control of all mass media, beta males will always be persuaded to vote against themselves.

Matt North
Matt North
3 years ago

This is stupid. Women should be able to vote but men should not put up with women who post endless pics of themselves brag about being single mom on welfare. Keep shatting out kids with no fathers. Too lazy to work or clean or cook or take care of kids. Stop watching shows or buys products frim companies that advocate feminist bs or make fun or project men in negative light

BOSSDONMAN .
BOSSDONMAN .
3 years ago
Reply to  Matt North

All of those ailments you listed (read this part carefully and thoroughly) CAN ONLY be fixed by revoking women’s right to vote.

Jed Mask
Jed Mask
3 years ago

“How To Save Western Civilization”

Hmmm… That’s a simple one: bring back the *BIBLE* (King James Version Holy Bible) as the cornerstone of society.

God Is Waiting… Amen.

~ Bro. Jed

No More Fakery
No More Fakery
3 years ago
Reply to  Jed Mask

Amen, brother.

Whenever I get so sick of this sewer that I wish I’d not been born, I go and read a passage like Deuteronomy 22, and remind myself how God wants society to be ordered.

One day He will sort this mess out, even if we don’t.

Stonehands
Stonehands
3 years ago
Reply to  Jed Mask

Godliness with contentment is great gain.

Hank Davis
Hank Davis
3 years ago

I don’t think you’ll eliminate women’ suffrage through your vote. You are better off supporting a dictator to clear house and then, on his deathbed, grant suffrage to property owning native males.

honzik
honzik
3 years ago

Roosh, one of the main issues that is at the heart of the destruction of the West is the deep wounding of monogamy, through no-fault divorce, contraception and abortion fueled promiscuity, normalization (or even celebration) of single parenthood and homosexual unions, easy welfare, serial or even de facto polygamy, etc.

Because of this, the normal operation of monogamy, that is, the pairing off and marriage of young woman and men ranked roughly by SMV, has been thwarted. The first consequence of this is bitter, lonely, and/or alienated people. Long term, however, we’ll start to see all the pathologies of polygamous societies set in: aggression and violence, particularly sexual violence, societal distrust, tribalism, endemic lying and cheating, consanguineous marriages, and even, perhaps, genetic adaptations for violence, impulsiveness, and irrationality (e.g., MAOA-2R prevalence).

As the society changes, these pathologies will prevent the operation a western-type society, with its conditional freedoms and implicit call for moral self-restraint, because those adapted to polygamist culture will use freedom to exploit others for SMV or tribal gain, leading to chaos. Laws will become more draconian and governments will become more authoritarian.

In short, the kernel of every high civilization is the family unit based on monogamy. Anything that seeks to destroy this, seeks to destroy that civilization.

MCGOO
MCGOO
3 years ago
Reply to  honzik

The term ‘polygamy’ vaguely refers to more than one spouse. Polygyny is one man/2+ women and polyandry is one woman/2+ males. Polyamory is one person simply ‘involved’ with 2+ people and could include the LGBT multiple notch lifestyle and is the closest runner up to the atomized culture of Babylon or of Romans having orgies during their fall.

What we have with the pussy pass and the proliferation of the divorce rape industry is effectively or ‘defacto’ as you say polyandry where one woman controlls the resources of several divorce raped men. The trailer park queen comes to mind with the divorcee who has multiple diamond wedding rings on every finger and a slew of Cadillacs from dead husbands strewn about the premisis. Also one single female slut carouselling is polyamory bordering on polyandry depending on how much sustinence she extrapolates from the males. A legal marriage certificate isn’t required to define polyandry if she takes full advantage of the legal pussy passes and is skilled in sexual manipulation with a plurality of males.

Feminism aims to deflower girls young making them unmarryable, hardened and learned in the art of controlling multiple men with their faculties, facets and orifaces. An ideal feminized woman was educated young in how to make the booty call and also how to execute termination and dispatch of the male much like the preying mantis that bites the head off the male as the ‘signal’ that she has been sufficiently ‘fertilized’.

Welfare whore single mothers often set their daughters up with a series of boyfriends which are vetted bums or ‘motherfuckers’ (referring to men who fuck welfare ‘mothers’) and then they instruct their daughters how and when to execute the chopping block. It is preying mantis training from mother to daughter and is required by the state to maintain occupancy in subsidized mixed race welfare breeding hives or ‘colonies’. Tax base strata communities are also pinned with predatory jurisdiction given to wider reaching family courts but in the projects they own your lifestyle.

Your arguments against ‘polygamy’ are only partially correct. True, no woman should have more than one man. No stable family is sustainable with a ‘used’ woman. Go virgin.

But about the polygyny – or one man having two wives – this should not be persecuted. It is biblical. Two wives make a very strong family unit that is resistant to intrusion and attack from outsiders. Aside from state persecution, the polygynous union of one man with two loyal and cohabitating female breeders is resilient against all other forms of natural threats.

The argument with many that it’s not ‘fair’ for a man to hog all the women is a moot point. Two wives makes raising offspring and securing shelter 300% more successful because down time for the man is eliminated completely. ‘Down time’ is when the man has to drop everything and stop work for the woman having a false alarm in labor or any other errand she has to juggle. The sister wife keeps her company constantly and sisterwives never abandon their nests with a note saying “gone to my mother’s to get some space”. The divorce rape industry and the women’s advocacy nanny state goons can’t get their foot in the door when the girls sit at the table and all parties settle clan issues internally. No one is left alone to go crazy for 8 hrs every day. Just keep the dildos away from them and keep them spanked, pounded and stuffed when you get home. They’re YOURS remember, and it’s no extra stretch of a fit man to keep them both ‘wiggie wiggied’.

Three is a magic number and with no ‘down time’, manly house and car projects are years ahead of the guy that has to fetch diapers on bald tires and 10000 mile sludge for oil. But luckily for the ‘two wife’ man, the 67 Chevelle sparkles in the garage and he gets to bed early, balls always drained, while the monogamons man sweats divorce rape threats if he can’t start the broken mower with kitchen drawer tools as it’s getting dark and she’s on the rag, no sex this week, and she’s screaming and beating the poor kid in the bathtub to sit down. The bitch finna snap. Expect a surprise when you come home from work the next day.

A sister wife always has an available hole, no menstrual ‘down time’ for the man and there’s always a helping hand for the child rearing woman. I can’t stress this enough. Plus they watch each other’s backs. They watch out for the predatory state and mandated reporter snitches.

There are plenty of women out there for the productive and industrious men who wish to build a patriarchal clan. The building blocks are there. No one is ‘stealing’ women away from the lesser men who are bums, infidel men or effeminate losers. They forefit the excess that graces the two wife men. They don’t want that extra woman you take. They’re omegas that would settle for a robot or mgtows that would settle for a prostitute or slut. Fine. But western man must get building the branch western tribes and the market says virgin women are on the grab. Keep them pure and straight by the divine order of the Patriarchy. Straight like a shishkabob. Take two man!!

(plus ‘just one woman’ will eat you mind and body eventually – you know that. You will morph into half of what she is. With two wives there’s physics involved, negative transfer of energies cancells and you land on a machine that was invented long ago but outlawed by the controlling state. There are natural and dynamic interactions, like a balanced dynamo and YOUR DICK is the fulcrum!)

Hail the patriarchy!