How To Stop The Fall Of Women

An acronym that you’ll often come across is AWALT, which stands for “all women are like that.” It is used in response to someone trying to point out that a particular woman is different than all the rest and more deserving to be placed on a pedestal of some sort when it comes to relationships. While that acronym is useful for newbies who are just beginning to de-program themselves from egalitarian ideas spewed by the establishment, it breeds a hopelessness among men that they can never extract more than casual sex from women.

Most men have seen firsthand how women change due to the presence of corrupting factors in the environment. If you give a woman an open bar, she will over-consume and make decisions that harm herself. If you give a woman a smartphone with social networking apps, she will become a narcissist in a short amount of time, falling in love with her own image. If you give a woman a liberal education, she will come to firm belief than men were born to bring pain and slavery unto women.

Only a woman with an exceptional upbringing can resist alcohol, social networking, and university brainwashing, and for the women who can initially resist it, she will surely succumb after enough time and pressure. It is in this way that AWALT is true: all women who face corrupt influences in their lives will become corrupt and behave in a similar way that degrades their virtue, making them unsuitable for long-term partnerships. But if AWALT is true in describing the universal fall of women in the presence of toxic influences, it must also be true that they possess universal purity in environments which lack bad influences that attack her virtue.

A reliable corrupter of a woman’s virtue is having plentiful male choice. If over the course of five years a woman in New York City has her choice of 100 alpha male cocks, she will be unable to resist the thrill ride that these men offer. She will begin to structure her life around a neverending alpha male sex party where she receives and expects fun, excitement, drama, and entertainment in exchange for willingly accepting her place on various booty call rotations. During this time, she loses most ability to be a suitable wife and mother, or even to be a good person, because the alpha males who use her for late night sex do not place demands upon her that make her more feminine, loving, or nurturing. She becomes damaged goods, suitable for nothing more than casual humping.

But now let’s imagine that instead of being born in New York City, this girl was born in a poor Ukrainian village that only has a population of 1,000 people. For whatever reason, she was unable to get out of this village and a complete blackout of internet prevents her from meeting thirsty foreign men. It’s quite easy to see how she marries a village man while still young because it’s a better prospect than suffering alone to earn her bread in a place where employment opportunities are few. The environment a girl is placed in will mostly determine her worth as a life partner.

Most women who are put in New York City will, within a few years, default to becoming a promiscuous slut. Most women who are put in a tiny village with no way out, with little choice in men, and with positive religious influences, will default to being a good wife and mother, possessing normal and acceptable human flaws like all men have. Women put in specific environments will act in specific ways, which is why looking for a unicorn in a Western city is fruitless, since she’s within reach of the devil’s workshop. He will get to her and make sure she experiences all manner of vice.

Western nations facilitate the “fall” of women from a state of purity and innocence to one of abject corruption. I don’t believe women are inherently born to be degenerate, just like how I don’t believe men are, but once we put a woman in an environment that enables, facilitates, and even encourages her corruption, she will certainly become corrupt. But what if you can catch a woman before she inserts herself into this environment and then shield her from it? What if you grab her at the time she is about to jump into the abyss, and through your diligence, power, and knowledge, protect her from Western influences that will destroy her? Would it be safe to give your time, energy, love, and commitment to this woman? It’s important to note that I’m not stating you save a corrupt girl, since by then it’s too late, but to prevent a woman from becoming corrupt in the first place.

It is completely your responsibility to create the environment of a good home, a good city, and a good country to prevent the fall of your women. It’s your responsibility to create the right environment where all women remain good instead of succumbing to an evil where within a short amount of time she becomes a useless, tattooed, overweight, and masculine slut. It should be clear to you by now that women absolutely can not save themselves, and have no inherent resistance to the pollution that tempts them in this world. It’s solely up to us men to shield their natural virtue so that they become the wives and mothers that allow you to fulfill your biological destiny while furthering the health of your society.

It’s not a matter of telling a girl that sleeping around is bad or that Facebook is bad, because by then the ship has sailed and her soul is likely long gone. It’s a matter of creating the environment where women are restrained from sleeping around, blocked from becoming addicted to taking selfies, and prevented from becoming brainwashed by social justice ideas. We must stop them from entering the environments that destroy them. We must guard the door of evil that they are hurtling themselves towards while resisting evil ourselves.

Before you raise your hands in despair and claim that this is an impossible task, that Western society is finished, I say this: what is a society but a collection of the people within it? What is a society but an assembly of living humans that include ourselves? We are a part of this whole, and it’s up to us to ensure that the truism of “all women are like that” serves in our benefit and our society’s benefit instead of being at the forefront of our most terrifying nightmares.

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“If over the course of five years a woman in New York City has her choice of 100 alpha male cocks, she will be unable to resist the thrill ride that these men offer.”.

Of course, I forgot there are no alpha males in the Soviet Union lmao.

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He also mentioned low population. If a woman is born in a poor village with a low population, it’s obviously not in her interest to be a slut and sleep with every alpha male when she could be married.

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Naturally the supermodels in Moscow, Minsk and Odessa are fucking new dudes every weekend like NYC sluts.

It’s a fucking stupid argument and falls on it’s own feet. Culture moulds a Western girl to see dating a certain way, to fuck as many guys as she can. She goes out to clubs specificially looking for sex. She will fuck the best guy she can get, but if the ideal doesn’t come along, she’ll fuck whatever she can get at the end of the night. Look at the infamous Icelandic case. They operate similar to men. If she expects to get laid on a date, she will fuck often even if they guy isn’t ideal, just like a man would fuck a 7. Though she probably won’t sink to a 4, just like many men wouldn’t.

If you look at the hottest girls in the Soviet Union, despite having their absolute pick of men, especially in the biggest cities, see dating in a different manner. She will try to find the best possible man she can get, and stay with him for as long as she can keep him. Hence you have girls with objectively more options, who fuck around way less, and spend most of their time in commited relationships. It is about their dating paradigm, the way they view it, which IS instilled by culture.

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The collectivism fallacy is strong in you.

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As you’ve mentioned before, women are like water, taking the shape of their container (and yes, AWALT). Modern western culture is the container, and the container is an empty cheap Olde English 40 oz, rather than a beautiful empty bottle of fine Highland Single Malt Scotch Whiskey.

Of all of the possible solutions I’ve explored, Neomasculinity seems to be the most practical and well thought out course of action, and I’ve been studying up and trying to pass the info along.

On a somewhat related note, lately these articles have been drawing out a large number of trolls looking to kill rational discussion. As such, I’ve found a way to somewhat enjoy the ensuing chaos… With a good game of Feminist Bingo.

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Don’t worry – WW3, the Samson option and/or Putin nuking us all will end feminist supremacy. In the meantime, immigrant rape and conflicts (not always their fault, who is bombing their countries and letting them in?) domestic and abroad will drain our society of its vitality. Women will eventually realise they need men to step up, but only when its too late and the men have gone to cover because they see the bad shit coming, whilst women are often not as savvy. The dollar is slated to be replaced as the reserve currency by 2018 at the G8 summit(2009), so that’s when the west becomes poor as shit. Whilst the bankers are mainly at fault, it doesn’t help that we have masculine women aborting the future generations whilst the men are hypnotised by poosey and feminised/gay/trans sports.

Considering that the bankers own the food supply of the west, if they killed the economy now, wouldn’t 90-95% of western people (notably whites) starve? In fact, mass immigration and financial manipulations are the tactics of warmongers, not leaders! I know that 9 out of 10 people in western society will be dead somewhere between 5-10 years from now. And most of them won’t die well…

It is not a tired old meme to say that whilst most human beings in the west are corrupt as a result of their environment, a special mention must be given to the tribal sociopaths of the ‘death cult of the hooked nose’ who have engineered society into this place via financialisation etc. Having God and his way (Christ as one example) replaced by the moneychanger and his evil was always going to end badly – I’m pretty sure society is going to start to become brutal for the zombie masses and I tried my best to stick up for them, its time now (for various reasons, unable to continue) to ‘retire’ quietly as this fog of war (media manipulation, distractions like Kim K etc) eventually lifts and people come to realise the full horror of the current western situation.

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It’s nice to see others on here who have had the courage and the resolve to become educated and “journey down the rabbit hole”. It gets dark, cold, and lonely down here sometimes.

Storm clouds do indeed loom on the horizon. WW3 may start and like most other wars American’s will not even have a clue as to the real reasons we’re fighting ( because if they did, they wouldn’t fight for these psychopaths! ). But hey, anything to fight “terrorism”, right? And if and when the dust settles, central banks will be present in ALL countries and once that is in place… well… (IMO) the gateway to hell and a “1984” George Orwell scenario will unfold.

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The 1984 part is already very well under way.

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Putin is preventing WW3 in case you were asleep, time to deprogram yourself from the mainstream media b.s

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Regrettably this is true. Zionist pyschopaths are firmly in control.

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If we get nuked female supremacy will be the least of your problems. There is a part of me however that doesn’t think that any government has it in them to detonate a nuclear weapon. They have to live on this planet, too.

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Ha! dude, they have massive underground cities already prepared.

chloe
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Those cities are not for us they are for elite persons only. If you think those cities are built for normal people you have another thing coming.

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I’m getting sick of the trolls destroying the ability of us men to discuss the articles in the comments sections. Roosh needs to start deleting their comments and banning them so they can’t ruin the comments.

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What the fuck has happened to you? Is this same guy that wrote Bang? You’re entire life has been about fucking girls. No problem.. But this? What happened? You’re drowning in hate and you see it everywhere. Now you want to “control” other people?? Did you flip at somepoint?

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Me too notices a change in Roosh. Why doesnt he tell us that we be the alphas who fuck them all? I dont want to settle down with family.

Former Banger
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Because Roosh is getting old. You degenerates are going to have to grow up too sometime. Your dystopian delusions of babe banging grandeur won’t work anymore when you look like Yoda.

Bob
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Ok fair enough but what’s an aging man to do? Settle down with one of these hambeasts? Live alone in emptiness? What should he do?

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Be rich and keep fucking 22 year olds till you die

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22? Whatever. My point is that I would bet that most men had the perfect, unspoiled chic when he was 20 and she was between 16-19 years old. The problem was that we didn’t understand what we had and discarded those chics who were young and in love with us. We felt tied down. I certainly did. More than once. I eventually figured it out, but it would have been easier if I had fully understood the female imperative by the time I was 22. Most men aren’t naturals and don’t understand that stuff at so early an age. Cheers

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I agree with this; however, 20 is way too young for a man to consider marriage.

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Most young men fuck young women in relationships (unintentionally) emotionally up. And that’s why they don’t see a potential husband in the next man, but a spiritually and emotionally useless man born to fulfill only her short-term desires. I wonder why roosh doesn’t see that this reason-based change is caused by man like him and all the man who follow his advice, which leads to emotionally fucked up women. Women love good sex and especially girls like to experience their sexual power. But they all hate lies about emotional issues.
Nobody has to be convinced of having great sex and from the First eye contact to the happy the end it’s always the choice of the woman anyway. You simply have to turn her on, that’s all. Relationship is different. Man as well as women tend to desire a love based inspiring relationship at some point. It’s a dull idea that the guy who was looking for sex over the last decade is unable to become a loving familiy father in the next decade. Because it’s a natural experience of men that this is fullfilling to deep desires. The same logic drive woman to become familiy mothers. By this point both man and woman have experience in sex and relationships and that doesn’t have to be a negative point in western cultures, does it?

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That’s not even working for Hugh Hefner any more. According to the play boy bunnies he likes watching TV more than he does having sex and most of the time he can’t even perform. The women are not there in his mansion because they enjoy fucking him, either. Trust me, men lose their virility as they age and their desire for sex isn’t what it once was. Before I finally met my husband last year and got pregnant I was having regular sex with a 62 year old at one point. I can attest that it was nowhere near the same as having sex with a man 30 years younger. He smelt funny, he had to take viagra, his back hurt and he complained about it all the time and his body wasn’t that attractive. He wasn’t fat but he was literally growing boobs. He was chinese and I have an asian fetish so he met my criteria and still got me going somewhat. I only settled for him because I’m ugly as hell and have pretty low SMV myself and I don’t feel like I’m anyone to raise my standards past my fetish. If I was hotter I would have been with Chan Thunderwang instead. If you are fine paying for sex and you don’t care about dying alone or with some hot goldigger with your money then go ahead with your own advice, forget everything I said. That’s a valid choice I guess and if you are truly happy I see no issue. Point is we all get old and gross. It happens to men too, albeit a few years later than it happens to women but men are certainly not immortal.

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Hugh Hefner? Hugh Hefner is your example for why a younger middle-aged guy like Roosh should hurry up and take himself off the market?

Of course Hefner is decrepit — he has lived for nearly a century!

“I was having regular sex with a 62 year old at one point.”

You admit that some guy, with a foot likely already in the grave by the sound of it, was smashing you on the regular. That you were giving him access to your obviously much younger body, despite his appearance.

He smelled bad.
He had bitch tits.
He required dick pills.

And you still spread for him.

Well, okay then, players, the jig is up, game over, time to cash out.

Illogic, thy name is woman. Why do guys even listen to this stuff?

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I am also fat, have physical problems and I am ugly. I wouldn’t have let a 62 year old smash me if I had had better options at the time.

chloe
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Find a wife that shares his goals and matches his own SMV. Maybe have kids, Settle down. Accept the fact that we are all mortal.

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I have heard wonderful things about beautiful, feminine, young women in Chile simply gravitating towards older men. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

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I am married to a likable young woman…

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At some point he realized that the future is not going to be a pleasant place to live, especially if white western culture is completely destroyed.

The way to rebuild from the rubble will be the return of social control structures on women.

His shift is the move from a purely hedonistic philosophy to a civilization building philosophy.

Ultimately he came to the realization that he wanted to leave something behind in the world after his death. That’s an epiphany that is hard for many men now to swallow, as many are just enjoying the decline and will be subsumed by the world. When they die, it will be as if they have never existed.

If that’s you, then ok. No one cares. Some of us desire to make our mark on the world, and ensure that it remains as long as it can. Consider aristocracy and its history…

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Yup. I can’t tell the demographic of guys posting replies, but I have to guess it’s generally half my age on average. Everything changes over time, especially YOU and your thoughts and attitudes about everything around you. This is especially true of women and the future of women.

Young men adn those new to the current culture of western women will appreciate the earlier Roosh and his writings. However, I’ve aged along with Roosh and my thoughts and attitudes have matured as well. I find they still align pretty closely with the more experienced and mature Roosh as we have been to the game, seen it, and now can step back from it to evaluate where things are and where they are headed. This is for everyone’s benefit, but mostly our own I believe — to reflect on our own experiences and to make decisions for our individual futures.

So, as with all things, you’ve got to put these writings in context of time, place and experience level.

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Bang was written in 2007, in a pre smartphone and pre social media age. The world is a very different place nowadays and most concepts that used to work then no longer does now, especially in the western world. One has to adapt to the constant changing environment.
I dont think Roosh anticipated many things to come when he wrote Bang. So while Bang has a tight game foundation with eternal priciples that will work in most situations, “Real Game” now is not so much about banging as much pu**y as you cant get but more about yourself, the logistics, and utilizing a strategy to protect yourself in the new environment we find ourselves in and how to maximize your opportunities.

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If you follow the trail of current events over the last couple years it is obvious something is not right.
Roosh is an intellectual at heart. Whether he is on a quest to get laid or to buy a new pair of pants, the guy is thinking his way through it.

Roosh is asking real questions that in some parts of the world you’re not even aloud to ask. His lifestyle affords him the freedom to pursue his ideas to the scale that he does. I agree that Roosh’s writing has gotten darker, and I hope this doesn’t have a negative impact on him or his readers in their day-to-day lives…
But the overarching thesis that Roosh has been producing over the last few years is high-level stuff and he’d be betraying himself if he just quit and went back to what he was doing before.

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“Darker” writing? I take the truth no matter how dark or sinister it is over the “bright” lies at any given second.

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I dont think Roosh is darker now than before. His nadir was probably in 2012 and 2013, when it seemed that all he wrote about was how to cynically play the system and the girls to get your way.
Now his writing is offering a positive way forward, through masculinity, and the politcial activism he has done in Canada.

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The sad reality is (Reality is a fantasy)engineered by a cabal of fallen angels led by Satan(draconian reptilians)alien like intelligent beings that posses supernatural powers such as shapeshifting and telepathy.They have usurped the world into a place where almost only the humans directly beneficial to them or unwittingly are able to enjoy the fruits of their hollow Borg like excistence.Even if you took only the most intelligent of humans of each nation and they made a blood oath of loyalty towards global domination only they sat on top as overlords,there’s no way they could maintain a power to control governments,mass media,judicial systems,banking cartels,social movements,education,military industrial complexes,religion,billion dollar corporations without an eventual breakdown due to human error,greed,ego,ect ect.What the world has been experiencing is a breakdown of the matrix or slow unveiling of this fact, the average person has been conditioned since birth to not possibly believe such a thing.Yet doesn’t it seem society has been swallowing strange pills just a few years ago would be laughed at as conspiracy?I love pussy too but all about the pussy all the time can be a fatal mistake when stranger than stranger times await.

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Alien Reptile Jews?

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Being a woman once blind to our true condition I love it when men speak the truth. Unfortunately being said woman I don’t really know what to do bout it all, besides maybe cling to God and find a good man to stand beside and against it all. Nobody said this life was easy eh!

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Roosh is getting old. He is in his own words ‘hitting the wall’. This happens to men, albeit around 10 years later than it does to women, but it sure happens. He is not going to be hot stuff to all these under 25s forever. Men lose their virility as they age. Sure, they obtain resources, but to appeal to much younger women, especially attractive women, a man has to be a millionaire and chances are any woman he lands isn’t there because she likes fucking him. Why would a young beautiful woman marry a man of 45 who makes six figures when she can marry a man of 32 who makes six figures? The guy screwed up by not marrying Anna. He met his dream woman and he still wasn’t satisfied. Like everyone in western middle class society he thinks he’s a special snowflake who runs around pursuing something for nothing. He is polluted by everything he rails against.

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Chloe, I like Roosh .. but you kind of nailed it there. Snowflakes are always the culprit.

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You are probably right… nevertheless, disregarding the bitterness and hatred, there is still a point to this article. If you want to have a stable family, you must choose a woman that is relatively unspoiled, and create a life environment that shields her from and/or mitigates the worst external influences.

This is perhaps not so hard if you live in Saudi Arabia or Bhutan, but I believe that in a western society, the only possible way is to make the lady herself want it. Most women actually do crave to be led by a strong and caring man, even if they might not admit (or even realise) this themselves. Dominate your woman, but do it with deep and genuine concern for her happiness. If she trusts you and believes in your capacity to make her happy, you may very well find that she wants nothing more than being led by you.

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Exactly!

I am led by my Sir because I trust him with all that I am. I KNOW that he wants what is ultimately best for me. That trust didn’t come easily, but by virtue of his uncompromising standards for my behavior (his rules for the household are framed and hanging on the living room wall. They are titled The Standing Orders), his unhesitating willingness to enforce those standards (consequences meted out when I fell short of his expectations), as well as his unwavering consistency in doing so, I submit to him in all things, even if I don’t understand the reason for his commands or if I disagree with him or just plain don’t want to. I’ve never known such security and safety with a man (aside from my Dad while he lived, but that’s obviously a different type of security), I am so grateful for him, his domination, and his willingness to stand strong in the face of the unrelenting pressure society puts on him to relinquish his masculinity. I am grateful for his willingness to be a man.

Taryn

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Amen lady

Mirco Abramovitsxh
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What are the points in the standing orders? How did he prove you that you can rely on him?

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Mirco,

They were written when my kids were younger and still living with us, so they cover aspects of respect for him as the Master of the house and myself as the lady of the house, courteous behavior towards others, practice of good manners, regular self care, completing assigned chores/tasks promptly and without complaint, and encouragement to strive for personal excellence at all times and with every endeavor. My daughter’s therapist was so impressed with The Standing Orders that she asked for permission to share them with her other clients as an example.

As for your other question, Sir was consistent in enforcing standards for my own behavior towards him and in general. He does not permit me to show any disrespect towards him, and accepts no less than my full obedience. I am free to voice my opinions or thoughts, which he always takes into consideration, but must do so respectfully, and I accept that he has the final decision in all matters. It was through his consistent enforcement of these rules of our relationship, his very high intelligence, unimpeachable logic, as well as the fact that he always keeps his word, that I came to trust him fully.

Taryn

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That’s all well and good except men aren’t allowed to discipline their wives anymore. Coupled with their unbridled “choice” there is nothing a man can do to make them stay and obey.

Taryn Lichenstein
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Unfortunately you are right sad .

Taryn

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Why should women have to “stay and obey”

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Because when you decide to marry and have children, your husband and children become your priority. They are not fashion accessories to be used to prove that you can “hahve it all”. The truth is that you CAN’T have it all. Either your career or your family will suffer. This is why our society sucks. Nobody is raising the children. Instead they’re being warehoused in daycare centers. Mom and Dad are too tired to deal with them after work, so they send them away to engage in online or real life shenanigans. They get no real guidance when they need it most.

As for obedience, no team can have two captains without drama. The man is the head of the house and family. The wife is a helper, or “co-captain”.

Taryn

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“in a “western society, the only possible way is to make the lady herself want it.
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Until she change’s her mind and then the full force and violence of the fem-primary legal system washes over you like a Tsunami which both destroys and humiliates you in front of your children who watch this sh1t show.

Nope -Incentives matter. Absent different incentives and and a different legal environment, any man with any sense of honor or self worth or assets to lose is out of his mind to take expose himself to this. Very sad for our civilization.

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Or maybe he just sees the broader picture and realized he’d rather live in a healthy world instead of the shithole the Western culture has become.

There’s more to life and civilization than just the p**sy we can f*ck tonight.

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Religion is the only way to create that safety bubble that ensures and checks the purity and honesty of women. Fundamentalist Catholicism or Islam. Feel good christianity and protestantism is almost the same as atheism.

Not that religious girls are perfect but they are the only ones that have a chance.

Atheistic girls are doomed to be corrupted by Femi/SJW/Media ideology.

People in general need an ideology, man have more of a chance of creating their own purpose. If you dont get it from religion you get it from the crowd of FeelGoodism…

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Good point re religion. As much as die hard religious cultures can be bit scary, you don’t see the majority of men and women in these religions sleeping around and getting into all sorts of vices. There is alot of expectation placed on men and women in religious societies to behave a certain way for the well-being of the family unit. Both sexes are expected to remain pure before marriage, to be faithful to their spouses, support each other within their respective gender roles and make God, family, and their community a priority. There are some crazy aspects to religious fundamentalism but I have to admit some of the values around family and community are great values that are missing in secular society. It would be ideal to have that in the mainstream in a way that truly enhances the well-being of men and women.

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You also need to pick a good religion. Churchianism has infected a huge number of denominations in the US. The harder line churches are the better picks. Check out Dalrock’s blog for some ideas in choosing a church and what to avoid.

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shouldn’t you pick the religion based on how true it is?

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How can you objectively tell if the metaphysical aspects of a religion are true? That a religion’s historical claims are known to be true, such as digging up cities that are mentioned in the religion’s scriptures, doesn’t prove that any of the metaphysical claims are.

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“Religion is the only way to create that safety bubble that ensures and checks the purity and honesty of women. Fundamentalist Catholicism or Islam”

The trouble with Islam is just about everything. Islam is criminal insanity.

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Islam, tells us to respect our mom and wife. Smh. Have you read the koran. Clearly not.

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“Islam, tells us to respect our mom and wife” …and murder everyone else. yeh! Islam is for me

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Exactly FOR YOU. Non Muslim expected to pay taxes in the Islamic state. ONLY Muslims are held to Muslims laws. But you knew that already. Smh.. Koran says All religions CAN co in exist in a Muslims country. Y’all need to stop listen to the right wing radical Islamist BS and radicals FOX news. Lol. Believe what u want but 99% of Muslims aren’t down wit that bs. HENCE why our parents left there. Collectively we are smarter than that.

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The problem is that even IS are “good muslims” because they can refer directly to Mohammed. Of course most muslims are peaceful people. But IS isn’t wrong when the say the only do what Mohammed said and did himself. Aren’t they?

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I have. And the mandates written in the koran show that it is not a peaceful religion. The only thing I agree with is their attitude towards gender. Islamic culture does not allow other cultures to exist (like christianity nor judism) nor do they allow things such as art to exist or non-sharia compliant architecture to exist. So when europe is completely Muslim and becomes sharia compliant, the Eiffel Tower, for example, will have to be dismantled. All the great works of art and museums will have to go.

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Dafuq?? Whuddaya mean that Islam is not a peaceful religion?? They’ll rest to peace any insufferable kafir (read: won’t convert) they can get their hands on and they like to say ‘assalamu alaykum’ or peace be upon you towards their fellow mooslime.

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Ya I know we are winning tho. Naw we moderate Muslims won’t let that happen tho bro..

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Lets hope not. Currently Egypt shows the most freedom for its people – allowing contempoary art and archtecture. But they seem to be the minority and risk getting crushed.

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Something seems to have changed since then in Egypt.

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The problem is that even IS are “good muslims” because they can refer directly to Mohammed. Of course most muslims are peaceful people. But IS isn’t wrong when the say the only do what Mohammed said and did himself, aren’t they? So why does the moderate Islam doesn’t reflect the history of islamische religion and clean the Islam from this?

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i gotta admit that i’m very happy with my devout catholic central american wife. i can’t see myself ever converting, but i have to hand it to the RCC for producing the likes of her.

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Somebody should contribute a “How to pick a good church” article to ROK.

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There are many ways – assuming determination – to improve your own life, character, skills etc., regardless of whether you’re an atheist or religious.
But for an atheist to choose to become religious is almost never going to be one of them, no matter how many societal benefits some religions perhaps bring with them.
Most people, barring some major life changing event that they decide to interpret in an entirely new light, simply aren’t going to be able to, even if they wanted to, twist their mind completely from not believing in a god – or (from the perspective of the atheist) other fairy tales – to suddenly becoming a believer in a higher power.

It’s at least as – perhaps even more – unlikely to happen as the opposite, someone growing up in with strong religious roots giving up on their belief turning their back on their faith and becoming an atheist.

Unless I have too much faith in the stability of most people’s minds. I guess with the herd minds of modern SJWs and other abominations, turning them religious might just be a matter of enough hashtag or Facebook campaigns.

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This is not true. I have met several atheist girls that, with the appropriate handling, would make good wife material. It may be true that traditionally minded (which in the west usually means religious) girls are overrepresented in this category, but they are by no means the only ones.

(And, by the way, my own wife is a “feel good christian”.)

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The situation with feminist Toronto women are beyond saving. Let the Toronto feminists enjoy their economic crisis after the debt crisis happens in Cuntario. Toronto has to be the place where a huge proportion of feminazism is embedded into the education, media, healthcare and legal system.

I’m taking Roosh’s advice and relocating from Toronto within the next two years. Toronto only appears to be heading worse off than improving. Feminazis aside, the cost of living and job market in Toronto are not that good at all.

However, these Toronto feminazis can make it easy to get high-paying jobs in education, medicine, psychology and government/ government-funded jobs, it’s amazing how the economy of Toronto is still working because many of these feminazis cause drama in the professional workplace to mask their incompetence. I’m very sure a feminazi was behind the 4-billion-dollar gas plants scandal in Ontario.

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… and yet the sheeple of Ontario gladly voted Liberals in disregarding all the scandals. Ontario and Canada are lost. Move out as soon as you only can!
Canada is definitely in DEFCOCK1 category.

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Kathleen Wynne wants to push her Ben Levin Sex-Ed program where teachers (a majority of whom are female) will be teaching their students about masturbation and anal sex before the students even reach the age of 14!

The feminazi teachers must be out of options in the dating market, so they go after the kids who are easier to fool into sex. Dirty female teachers in the Greater Toronto Area.

Canada is going to turn into DEFCOCK 0.5 by 202o. In Toronto, a chick could walk topless in the streets, but if any man looks at her, the cops arrest the guy and the media smears the guy as a “potentialsexoffender”.

Ryerson University released a video where the feminazis are saying that how consent can be revoked at any time…This will lead to many innocent guys who had consensual sex to be labelled in the same league as child molesters in Toronto. Toronto is such an anti-sex, anti-fun city, but the female teachers sure know how to dress like sloots in front of their Grade 6 students though. Very dysfunctional and terrible city.

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1. If parents agree with and do not protest their new Sex Ed program then who’s at fault? DO NOT blame “dirty female teachers”, blame parents who are ALLOWING all this to happen!!!
2. If things are SO bad then WHY are Toronto males still in Toronto?? What’s stopping them from taking a bus ride to Pearson and the flight out of Canada?
3. Again, why are those guys even bother having sex in Canada? Fuck that! I’d never even consider trying to get laid in a country where I have to record the process for my OWN safety!!! FUCK Canadian females! Let them have sex with their own favorite vibrators!
4. If Toronto is a dysfunctional and terrible city then just leave it behind!

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1. If the “dirty female teachers” and Ben Levin were more interested in educating academia rather than spewing perversions, parents wouldn’t be labelled “homophobes” when they protest against the Sex-Ed.

2. Most guys are either in Stockholm Syndrome, hoping things in Toronto will get better (but it’s only getting worse), or most guys are keeping quiet of their plans to move because in Toronto these guys who say they want to move out are viewed as “losers” or guys wanting to join an anarchist group in the desert.

3. See #1, Canadian females are entering teaching and childcare with persistence in teaching these kids perversions.

4. It takes slow steps to leave Toronto for good. It’s not easy in Toronto, but being stranded in a 3rd world country….oh wait…There are no Toronto feminazis..Learn wilderness survival. At least people don’t freeze to death in Latin America.

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1. Look, if I DO NOT WANT my kids to attend new Sex Ed lessons then they will NOT attend it and NO fucking “dirty female teacher or Ben Levin for this matter” will EVER force me to change my mind. And I do not give a shit if I’m labeled a homophobe or whatever they want. I know, I’m one big mothafucker but if every parent was like me then no new Sex Ed could ever be implemented.
2. If a male is afraid to speak up his mind then he’ll never accomplish anything in real life. It all starts with self respect.
3. Again, it’s parents’ fault when kids are taught perversions. Parents allowed new curriculum to be implemented. Thus do not blame females only.
4. I’ve been living in Eastern Europe for 7+ years. It’s warmer here than in Canada, we ain’t got no feminazis in Russia or Ukraine. Some things here are more 1st world than Canada or USA.
Latin America sounds like a good option too!

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“Your” children aren’t really yours. They are property of the state, the collective. The state determines how much of their labor to confiscate, just like any slaveowner.

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It’s ridiculous to read what you write. The Intention of giving education in sexual practices is obviously because otherwise the porn Industrie teaches the kids. Every kid unter 14 years old has access to porn material nowadays. School education can prevent kids from the idea what they see is how reality is, what is imortant to prevent Boys and Girl from behaving like the porn industry teaches them to do!

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eye rape !

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In Californica she has twenty years after the date she alleges the incident she alleges occurred to revoke her consent to the incident. Alleged.
It’s irrelevant whether the incident actually occurred. What is relevant is that she FEELS as if it happened. She can pick her vict… uh, alleged rapist from facebuck and his goose is cooked.

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good luck on getting out as soon as possible, man. toronto sounds terrible, like the US with everything negative about american life amplified.

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Toronto is 1000X worse than Commiefornia. At least in Commiefornia, the weather is not an igloo and there are always hot models all over the place in Los Angeles.

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CORRECT! Toronto is indeed a hell on Earth with the only difference that Toronto hell is COLD and not hot!
California is very nice in terms of nature, sunsets, general scenery, perfect highways, the ocean.

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Even stuck-up Los Angeles models give more eye contact and less harassing vibes, than a typical Toronto woman. Imagine that buddy.

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Easily;)) I’ve left Toronto 7+ years ago and never looked back since then but I still remember Hell called “Toronto dating” when every date felt like attending a job interview for the CIA with tons of questions being asked and millions of criteria to be met.

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i’ve only met two people from toronto, as far as i can remember. one is a friend who lives in my city in the US. he says that toronto women are insufferable bitches. the other was a girl who randomly showed up at my russian conversation club one night and was, in fact, a completely insufferable bitch.

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The your Russian skills should be very useful in the future;))
Use them wisely and forget about North America.

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were i a single man, i’d probably be back in the ex-USSR already. i miss it over there. as it is, my wife is central american, so we’ll hopefully end up somewhere down there eventually (i speak spanish too). she actually said that she’d move to russia with me, but i wouldn’t do that to her.

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Central America sounds good too! As long as you do NOT stay in Canada or USA.

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the surfing is better than russia, that’s for sure.

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How much money will a guy need as backup savings to move out from Toronto? I don’t believe that I will be able to afford paying the 1,000$ a month rent in Toronto in the near future.

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10 000 $ US will be enough for you to make a move and start a new life in a normal country. But you have to get a degree, learn a foreign language and be ready to teach English BEFORE you leave Canada. Guess it’s easy and doable.

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It got worse over the last few years.

As they’re reaching mid/late twenties they’re realizing that life isn’t so easy after all. Feminism worked for previous generations because there was enough wealth to go around. Now the young Toronto chicks are grinding as hard as men to have a life, but they grind their SMV into bits in the process.

I swear relationships with Toronto girls were much better in the 90s.

They dress like sluts in public but despise you for checking them out.
If you’re successful, they hate you because you’re in competition with them for the few and far between jobs.
If you’re unsuccessful, they hate you because you aren’t “pulling your weight”.

Foreign girls that visit Toronto have a completely different disposition. If you’re working hard as a man to be the best you can be, they actually appreciate it. Toronto chicks are taught from a young age that disrespecting men carries no consequences… They cheat and lie like it means nothing and then start freaking out when they hit 25 and the effects of their shitty lifestyle start showing up on their face.

Can you tell I don’t much like women from Toronto?

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Then again it raises the question of WHY Toronto males are STILL in Toronto and not in Pearson International Airport waiting at the gate to board their planes out of Canada? wink

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maybe cuz there are no males left, last time I went there all I saw is bearded hipsters in skinny jeans with tattoos all over.

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Damn, good ONE:
“cuz there are no males left, last time I went there all I saw is bearded hipsters in skinny jeans with tattoos all over.”!!!!!!

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To Not Canadian: It is hard for a man to leave a country without job. It is easy for a fuckin white especially if she is attractive to get a job outside the country while educated, hardworking men like me have to struggle to get dish washing job in Toronto

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heh. yep, i picked up on that. it was just funny meeting this chick, because i’d heard so many guys on ROK complain about toronto women and the first one i’ve ever met seemed to match all the stereotypes precisely.

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>They dress like sluts in public but despise you for checking them out.

And they’ll talk shit that you must be a faggot or at best an asexual if your don’t check them out.

>If you’re successful, they hate you because you’re in competition with them for the few and far between jobs. If you’re unsuccessful, they hate you because you aren’t “pulling your weight”.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. It would behoove us collectively as men to look up to the gold paradigm courtesy of this creepy misogynistic alpha dude from days of yore :

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That really has become my attitude towards most Toronto born chicks.

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I live in Toronto, but was born somewhere else. I hate to admit it but yeah, a lot of young women here are like what you describe. When I first moved here and went to a club in the entertainment district with some girls from work I was surprised to see men dressed in suits. After an hour or so it became clear to me why. The women at the club expected men to look and act a certain way (basically look like you have money). Its not like that where I’m from, where none of the clubs even have dress codes. I found it kind of shallow and got flack from one of the girls for talking to one of the bartenders who was cute and nice. Apparently I was supposed to be focusing on the ‘suits’. Well I got that bartender’s number and ended up dating him for a year before he moved away for grad school. Those girls got nothing. I’ve said it before on this site. I would not want to be a single man in this city.

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Fuck you Genie. You lyiing piece of shit faggot. Fuck off bitch. You cockblock men you dirty filthy slut.

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The majority of Toronto chicks are plain delusional and psychotic. I know someone who got the hell out of Ryerson University because the feminism was terrible there.

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I’m at OCAD right now and all I can say is thank god for all the foreign exchange girls… The profs are so outspoken about their feminist causes, even though they don’t actually do anything.

Their classes suck because of shit like 20% participation grade… Are you kidding me??? You aren’t even teaching us anything and you have the nerve to grade me on “participation”?

Being a normal guy means you’re fucking weird in Toronto.

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Canadian society does not need normalcy. It does need politically correct robotic freaks covered with tats and piercings who’ll never object anything coming from the mainstream.

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To Clark Kent: Women get higher grades in school because they abuse and teared down smart men like me. Brother. You are a white guy. Stay away from educated or accomplished women especially if she is Anglo white or Romanian.

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To Clark Kent; Toronto women hate handsome men and teared them down for a sick sense of validation. They are really fucked up to the point where putting them out of their misery will bring good to humanity.

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It’s true though,
They ain’t worth the price.
And you’re right about the New York fetishism.

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To Clark Kent: Even my mom and sister are just as bad as the women in this city. My mom wants his own son to fail in school. That is how sick she is.

Even the manginas, beta males, and weak men are really evil too. I had this Anglo straight white prof who acts just like TOronto woman. He actually hates me for no reason and wants to kill me. I said to myself. Who the fuck are you?

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Toronto women are horrible. They will try to get suspended in school or press false rape allegation if you piss her off or she does not like you. I had to avoid these bitches like the plague. These women are very dangerous and can prevent you from suceeding.

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“Feminism worked for previous generations because there was enough wealth to go around.”

Definitely. There appears to be more female professionals who can’t even construct a proper sentence or even bother to proofread their work for grammatical errors, even though they’re MDs.

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Correct! But those illiterate women get promoted due to political correctness, affirmative action and quota hiring.

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TO Clark kent: Toronto women should just die of cancer.
TOronto women teared down men due to jealousy. So you get a higher grade than her. She will destroy you emotionally. They get extremelely pissed if you do better than her in school. Trust me. They hate successful men while foreign men appreciate successful men.

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To Clark Kent: Toronto women are hypocritical sluts. THey cockblock the men here and flirt with men in NYC. They say men here are creepy, do not have game, or these Toronto hoes want a husband but rides the cock carousel.

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The only person from Toronto I’ve ever known was an elderly lady who said that men beat women because women don’t know when to shut their damn mouths. And that when he tries to avoid beating her by turning around and leaving, she follows him with her mouth still running.

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As a Commiefornia resident I love this state’s terrain and I lament it’s political situation.

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My advice – head to the Prairies. Saskatchewan is booming I heard.

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Whether girls grow up religious or not, they need social sanctions to keep them in line. The people in bible times who executed adulteresses in public knew their business, because that practice put the fear of Man in the other women who witnessed these punishments.

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Damn, that makes slut shaming look tame.

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On the road to freedom every player comes across the self doubt that what if society could be different, what if I (we) could make society different. This inevitably occurs when we realize that we have aged out or are aging out of the game and we lament the loss of not starting a family and wishing we had the Norman Rockwell painting life. The fallacy is that we then jump to the same conclusion that aged out women do, namely that there are no good ones left when in reality there were definitely good ones along the way, we just chose to ignore them the same way women ignore good men.

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That’s the dark side of wisdom I guess. Learning and experiencing much but trying not to get burned out or jaded.

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The only blessing for a women i a man who can handle (control) her.
from http://freedompowerandwealth.com

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Noble article.

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this can’t be done unless there is a complete restoration of Patriarchy.

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Looking for the unicorn, are we?

It is obvious that Roosh wants to settle down with a good woman and so he’s exploring the possibilities but his hopes of finding one anywhere in the world will turn out to be futile, because ….

… woman is a soulless creature.

Undine is a fairy-tale in which Undine, a water spirit, marries Huldebrand in order to gain a soul. The Chinese from time immemorial have denied that women possess a personal soul too. If a Chinese man is asked how many children he has, he counts only the boys, and will say none if he has only daughters. This is because in procreation the male principle is the formative active agent, the “logos,” whilst the female is the passive material. The “soul” exist as an active, formative, causative principle.

I remember during domestic arguments my father shouting at my mother – You’re draining my soul! I only understood what he meant when I experienced the same with women.

Remember that you as man have everything within you. Your soul is the microcosm, and great men are those who live entirely in and through their souls.

So in way, all these women you have slept with have been draining your soul. So my advise to you, Roosh, is before you marry another soul sucker, give yourself enough time to fully recover your soul. It seems kind of lost now.

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>I remember during domestic arguments my father shouting at my mother – You’re draining my soul! I only understood what he meant when I experienced the same with women.

Dude, no offense but both my mother and yours ain’t got no shit on this Michigan dude’s cunt of a mother.

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I hear you, I have probably slept with about 30 (all Americans) women and fooled around with various others (mid-30’s here) and it will make you jaded and literally feels like you are worse and worse off the more you meet and sleep with. I finally understood after many years that you have to love (and like and respect) yourself first and foremost; you can call it inner game or what-have-you, but other people will do what they will and generally dissapoint you, if not suck out your soul/life essence (namely women). There is so much more to enjoy in life: natural beauty, your children, great art, literature, etc., that wasting much of your precious time on Earth with lying, duplicitious inferior creatures simply pales in comparison.

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“Before you raise your hands in despair and claim that this is an impossible task, that Western society is finished…”

It’s finished.

Some kind of great equalizer is going have to come, i.e. some kind of major reality slap in the form of society collapse or civil war, or perhaps a buclear war, or the vast majority of men giving the middle finger not just to marriage, but to the entire fucking starus quo by refusing not to go to work.

The current state of affairs goes beyond women, because the destruction of women is a mere part in the bigger agenda to destroy our once great culture.

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Roosh, did you mean that AWALT = “all women aren’t like that”.

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Roosh, mate, I could not agree more with most all of your ideas. The thing is, however, that nobody makes (enough) money off of a person living like that. So long as the finance overlords lobby their interests to the governments in NA & EU, we can all pretty much suck it.

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Good article but u wrong..NAWALT ! I will keep looking for my unicorn another 3 decades !

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good luck. they are out there. consider latina girls who go to church. that’s where i found mine.

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I’m not very good at sarcasm it seems..I’ve long stopped looking for unicorns in the western world. It’s not going to happen..

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Right on! Forget about the western world as a whole and try to leave it behind as soon as you only can.

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That’s the plan..but it’s not easy.

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But it ain’t that hard;) And definitely doable.

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How old were you when you left the feminazi Western cesspool?

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I was 36 years old.

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heh. it’s hard to convey sarcasm in an internet forum sometimes. you’re probably right about not looking in the west. i get the guys who a resigned to being players their whole lives, but a lot of us want a family. seems to me that the only honorable way to do that is by doing all you can to give your kids a mom and dad who stay together, hence the requirement for a unicorn.

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Did you find any good women in Finland? I was with a girl in Rovaniemi. Great body. Upper half was soft & feminine, lower half was built like a fire hydrant.

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Look among foreign born girls. There are plenty of those.

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Agree on Latinas part, but not necessarily in church. Latinas with the last Facebook update going back a few years ago, or no FB at all.

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NAWALT does exist but they are really far & few between, perhaps as rare as albino pandas. Off the top of my head I can only produce 3 confirmed NAWALT – Jean of Arc, Esther Vilar, Julia Roberts.

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Haha, good list. You are quasi-serious, right?!

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Maybe I am but seriously, Julia Roberts married down and currently is still with hubby Danny Moder. Any woman willing to marry a man way below her own SMV and still to date respect & cherish him is a NAWALT in my book.

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No AWALT is true. It’s our culture that is turning the AWALTs into busted sluts, good for only one thing. Accept this now. It’s true. All women are hypergamous and all women follow Briffault’s Law.

Now that we know AWALT? We need to take up our duty to protect our women from the degeneracy we have allowed to come about.

Just so I could deep throat some bitches and then die alone.

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>All women are hypergamous and all women follow Briffault’s Law.

Aurum.

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This seems easily black and white when contrasting a small village to a metropolis like NYC. However, most of us don’t live in either, but rather something in between.

This is where it becomes more difficult because you get a mass of women trying to play both angles based on their environmental surroundings, the wedable unicorn, and the ravenous slut simultaneously, all the way up to, and after the wall hits them.

I’d like to hear what formula men could apply that fits this most common environment… the small-middle sized city, suburbia, or non-detached “country girl.”
The best I can apply relies on basic tenants of game, with sprinkles of neo-masculinity.

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Some of the more tech-oriented manosphere members need to create some kind of slut-detecting, or wife-material algorithm.

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A scannable Hoe-Fax report if you will. I dig it. Chips need to be implanted.

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I’m talking about something like a tricorder from Star Trek, if that’s your thing. I’ll scan around with that thing and if it detects a ho, it’ll go “beep! Beep! HO in the vicinity! Ho in the vicinity!”

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My 2 cents: WHY do males HAVE TO stop the fall of Western females? Let them fall as low as they only can and enjoy their own decline, demise and shit.
FUCK North America and Western world as a whole. Just get out of it and settle down in a normal country where males just have to be males and not some kind of saviors who have to save and direct “fallen” females. FUCK THAT! Western females fully deserve their fate.

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Toronto women are fooking weird man….I was walking past a classroom and they had this female teacher reading a book to 3 to 5-year-old students. The only thing is when she leaned over people can literally see her breasts. The suspicious thing was that when she saw me for the quick glance, she gave a “don’t look at me” look.

Then at the swimming pool at Ryerson University, there was some swimming classes for little kids, and there was always a corridor I usually walk by where I could see the entire swimming arena via glass windows…so I was passing by, and I saw a female swimming instructor wearing a thong-looking swimsuit with a lot of her bare ass showing teaching these kids. Again, when she saw me looking, she gave an angry stare (Coincidentally, the university had to tint up the window, I wonder why?).

These Toronto women are psychotoic. They hate men, but when it comes to kids, these Toronto women appear to showcase their sexuality to these kids.

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Toronto women are like that because of Toronto MEN!!!! Men are to blame for everything bad on Canadian dating and social scene these days. Canadian males have allowed all the bad things to happen, they’ve accepted shit like political correctness, affirmative action, tolerance, quota hiring, multiculturalism and feminism!
DO NOT blame women, blame men who’ve allowed all the bad things to happen and bad laws to pass!

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Good article Roosh.

This childish “AWALT so what is the point” kiddy fatalism that infects the manosphere is self-destructive and pointless view to hold and reaks of the same self-pity “I’m a eternal victim” disease that infects the Feminist/SJW left and MRA/MGTOW crowd. That is loser mentality and will always result in defeat and worst of all is an inherently un-masculine effete, self-emasculation behavior and attitude. The ‘men’ who actually believe in this “AWALT by fixed nature” nonsense are just frail ego’s trying to hide their own failures with women and personal flaws and failures as men. “There are no good women out there so why even try being a better man?” fatalism is also obviously very self-serving and convenient for those who don’t wish to put in the effort to better themselves. Pathetic sour graping and coping out constantly looking for excuses to avoid personal responsibility for their own failures and having to admit hard truths to themselves. Only weaklings and losers constantly look to the easy way out of everything.

Why give up when the tide is turning to our side?

And yes, decent women actually still exist and yes corrupt women can change and i’m not speaking about “unicorns” either. Attitudes and human behaviors aren’t fix or set in stone, aren’t we ourselves proof of this fact? Nobody here was born red pill. This mondana-whore complex that permeates the manosphere is really skewing their perception of women and is causing them to hold unrealistic/impossible exceptions of women. “If she isn’t a perfect angle then she must be a fucking whore!!! But no, no i’m not a better loser at all!”

If we are ever going be productive and achieve anything worth while then this fatalistic loser attitude has to go.

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Where did you notice the “turn of the tide”??? Must be some kind of an alternative reality…

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“Where did you notice the “turn of the tide”???”
Where have you been the past two-three years? The progressive left is dying fast.

” Must be some kind of an alternative reality…”
No, just you pessimism that is inherently in all failures in life.

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Yeeeeah right;) What kind of an imaginary world are you living in??) Progressive left is dying? What a hogwash!
Just look at Canada and USA to see what I mean. Or Sweden for this matter;)
Pessimism? How about calling spade for a spade and not using gallons of cool aid?;)
Failures in life?;) I’m married, have my own kids and live the life I WANT and not the way the mainstream is telling me to.
But I still gonna call spade for a spade;)

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“Just look at Canada and USA to see what I mean. Or Sweden for this matter;)”

If you knew about the growing opposition in either of them. Of course you don’t. You mistake the status quo for current trends like all idiots do.

“Pessimism? How about calling spade for a spade and not using gallons of cool aid?;)”

This my be the dumbest argument i have ever heard in my entire life. Why the fuck did i ever take you seriously? Go away.

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I see absolutely NO damn opposition to feminism, political correctness and multiculturalism in modern western world. NO! NONE! But stupid morons like you will keep claiming that “it is growing and will soon take over”.
I can only see more and more people turning into sheeple and following the orders of their Master.
Well, you must be using gallons of cool aid since you are afraid to face and acknowledge the reality and try to promote your rosy vision as the only truth.
I also had no doubts that you while lacking any kind of arguments and facts would tell me to go away. You sound exactly like feminazis when they have absolutely nothing to say and resort to obscenities and other crap.

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I knew you were a troll. Go away.

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Too bad that for many westerners telling the truth means being a troll these days. Keep living in your imaginary world and drinking gallons of Cool Aid.

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Normalcy bias isn’t proof that i’m wrong but continue to shove your head up your own sophistic asshole if you wish. As i said before, the stats quo and trends aren’t the same and you obviously can’t tell the difference between the two. The fact that you continue to repeating yourself is proof that you are troll. Now fuck off 12 year old.

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You ain’t got no facts that the tide is turning. NONE.
The truth is that sheeple in the West are getting more and more stupid and indoctrinated. And only morons like you keep saying that the situation is different and the tide is turning.
As I’ve said before-keep dreaming and drinking your Cool Aid.

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“You ain’t got no facts that the tide is turning. NONE.”

“The truth is that sheeple in the West are getting more and more stupid and indoctrinated.”

And the evidence for this statement is exactly zero. Ironically. You never cite one yourself. Go away troll.

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Where in North America do you live, if I may ask?

Oh, and in order to get the “evidence” it’s enough to get out on the street and to look/listen around…

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I love how you demand that i “provide facts” while you refuse to provide any of your own. You have nothing to say or ever did. You don’t even have a profile at all. Confirmed troll. Bye.

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Fuck , you are a moron… MY facts are visible all over North America. It’s enough to get out of your basement and see them/hear them.

You don’t even have guts to tell me where in North America you live! Who’s the troll now??;)

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As i said you have nothing to say of any subsentence whatsoever. Why are you still speaking?

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You don’t even have guts to tell me where in North America you live! Who’s the troll now??;)

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Keep spinning on your hamster alone.

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>Only weaklings and losers constantly look to the easy way out of everything.

I’m afraid that even winners tend to take the path of least resistance, that is just human nature at play. Britain would never rule the waves if she always took the path of the most resistance, say, forsakes firearms (read : the easy way out) and goes into hack & slash mode ala Braveheart against any native resistance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiwcd1ijcMM

Discretion is the better part of valor, no?

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You obviously have never herd of the concept of entropy before. Without constant testing of you abilities they alway decay.

“I’m afraid that even winners tend to take the path of least resistance”

No they don’t. In order to be a winner to begin with requires you compete with others. The path of least resistance is to never play to begin with.

“Britain would never rule the waves if she always took the path of the most resistance”

Really? You never heard of the battle of Trafalgar? I’m sure they encountered resistance there and overcame it. They could have never been “rulers of the waves” if they never defeated the French.

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No argument. In fact no even related to what said. Typical. Ironically like feminist.

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>You obviously have never herd of the concept of entropy before. Without constant testing of you abilities they alway decay.

It’s true, use it or lose it.

>The path of least resistance is to never play to begin with.

Ah, but to never play to begin with would be ‘the path of NO resistance’ which virtually doesn’t exist as far as I can tell, your mileage may vary though………..

>You never heard of the battle of Trafalgar? I’m sure they encountered resistance there and overcame it. They could have never been “rulers of the waves” if they never defeated the French.

As they encountered countless other resistance at numerous engagements the world over but my point that even winners prefer the path of least resistance still stand – back then, the Brits will never in good conscience and knowingly surrender any advantage (read: the easy way out) they possessed and instead deliberately & suicidally made it harder upon themselves to prevail against their enemies.

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Today’s society is beyond repair and changes will not be made unless there is some type radical revolution which will be impossible to implement if you consider the powerful evil people that control society right now.

Do you think the meat head alphas that are doing all the fucking, the frankist sabbateans, the cock suckers, butt fucking Illuminati, and who ever the fuck is responsible for ruining the western world would allow for a radical revolution to occur?

I say put energy in to changing/improving yourself instead of trying to change the world and society.

Spiritually (improving your social skills, find personal enlightenment, not allowing yourself to become a bitter, jaded old man), Physically (being healthy), and financially (save, invest your money).

For relationships, friendships etc. go to east asia, eastern europe, south america and anywhere else that the evil cocksuckers haven’t wrapped their tenticles on.

Give up on the western women and western society. Trying to fix the system will be a fruitless, thankless endeavor. Focus only on changing, improving yourself!

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Our spiritual traditions teach that we don’t live for ourselves and for our personal notions of fulfillment, and especially not women. You don’t have to believe in a god to see that these traditions recognize a tragic truth of the human condition that doesn’t go away when you stop believing in it.

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It’s not “corruption”, its female nature. You could say girls are “corrupted” for only wanting alpha males the same way a man is “corrupted” for only wanting hot chicks, its our nature, people who have more options, pick the best, the only girls who are “corrupted” are the hot ones who can choose among alpha males, but there are a lot of ugly girls out there who’d rather have a family, and we ignore them, the same way girls ignore betas.

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>You could say girls are “corrupted” for only wanting alpha males the same way a man is “corrupted” for only wanting hot chicks,

Believe it or not, that’s exactly what women have been saying about us men for many years on end now but the word they employ against us is “shallow” instead of “corrupted”.

>its our nature, people who have more options, pick the best, the only girls who are “corrupted” are the hot ones who can choose among alpha males,

In layman’s term : Deep down inside all girls are basically same, the hotties and the notties differ only in their outward appearances.

>……….but there are a lot of ugly girls out there who’d rather have a family, and we ignore them, the same way girls ignore betas.

Rather have a family with the likes of Jamie Dornan or Sean O’ Pry if they could and during their prime years contemptuously spit at the direction of the lowly betas who later on in life don’t want to have anything to do with them let alone wife up some post-wall ugly nasty girls, yikes!

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You have a valid point, however the reason females need to be properly contained for the greater good of society is that they will gravitate to ex-convicts and an array of other violent losers. And they end up shitting out the bastard children of these assholes who have, of course left them. Now we have an instant welfare mother.

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Oh geez is Roosh uptight these days.

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I never liked Roosh because 99 percent of his articles just bitch about women in general, or specific instances of women rejecting him. I don’t ever recall having read a single article
about him getting laid,
or fun conversations that he had to get there. It’s like he just wants to teach guys to hate women. That’s not what I’d expect from a guy who claims to have game.
I’m frustrated sometimes, and feel unheard/unnoticed, but hate is not the answer.

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Unfortunately, Western Civ is indeed beyond the fixable point. Sometimes the news just ain’t good. People don’t like to hear that, but that don’t make it not so.
The thing needs to be razed to the ground and rebuilt by someone else, by another group of men who haven’t let their women run amok.
Next stop: WWIII, then national captivity.
And the Muslims, as nasty as they are, ain’t the problem.
They’re just one part of the Hegelian Dialectic that’s being played on us.
But they make useful bad guys to whip up this modern Crusade into the Holy Land all over again.
Orwell said this would happen. Well, most of it. What he missed, Huxley called right.
Huxley just whiffed on the intensification of False Flag Attacks that Orwell had the insight to foresee.

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“It is completely your responsibility to create the environment of a good home, a good city, and a good country to prevent the fall of your women”

If that be the case, and you could be right, then this means toppling the system, gutting the lawmakers and politicians alive, and having a few games of human head football, i.e. civil war.

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Pua culture corrupts women though. That is the net affect, It is inherent in men to want to corrupt women. It is inherent in women to pick alpha males and employ hypergamy. Regulating the gender market is like regulating the economic market. Free markets tend to work best in the long run. The gender market has been deregulated for only a few decades after hundreds of years of regulation. Making a transition to the free market takes time and is often a difficult and painful process.

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This piece reminded me of one of my favorite books, Catcher in the Rye. Aside from parents being effective disciplinarians, it would also be necessary to invest in mental health resources and promote introspective strategies like meditation to prevent the fall of, not only, women but humanity as a whole. People like Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens need to be better known.

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You start with the woman’s point of view:
If you give a woman a liberal education, she will come to firm belief than men were born to bring pain and slavery unto women.

And end with the obvious solution:
We must stop them from entering the environments that destroy them. We
must guard the door of evil that they are hurtling themselves towards
while resisting evil ourselves.

I agree with your conclusion, but there will be no change in women until the authority of the father and husband over his women is recognized as absolute. I do not go so far as to say the Roman concept of the paterfamilias should apply, giving the husband/father the authority of life or death, but to the extent God granted authority to the husband let it be so. For those of you not familiar with what the Bible says about that, allow me to paraphrase Ephesians 5:22-24:

“Wives, submit yourselves to the authority of your husband in the same way you submit to the authority of God. Because the husband has the same authority over you that Christ has over His church, just as the church is to submit to Christ, you are to submit to your husband in everything.”

(I should point out this standard is essentially the same under Islam, with the exception that they actually enforce it- unlike Xians who decided they knew better than God and stopped protecting their women)

The term “everything” is not qualified or limited, and until that authority is recognized by society there will be no change, but our society and culture has reached the point it can no longer accept such a thing without a societal reset.

The problem is women believe they are autonomous and capable of acting as rational agents, but only an exceptional minority are able to do so. We have a generation of women raised in single parent households who are incapable of rational and moral behavior and we can all see the effect this is having on society.

How do you restrain the feminist woman? It is like trying to restrain the wind or grasp oil with your hand. This problem will not go away until a system reset occurs, which will require a cusp event. That is, an event so huge, so catastrophic that it enforces a new paradigm on everyone in the society at the same time. For the US, I see a genocidal civil war coming. That is when feminism will yield it’s final, bitter fruit for women: the discovery of their absolute incompetence and uselessness when times get tough and tough decisions have to be made.

Today’s women, with only rare exceptions, are for the most part devoid of basic homemaking skills. They can’t keep house, can’t cook (much less know how to tend a garden and store the produce for winter), don’t know how to raise children without a TV babysitter, don’t know how to sew or mend clothing, and I could go on and on. It is unfortunate for the women that they have reduced themselves to the position of only being good for sex because when the ability to produce food means the difference between living and starving and the ability to defend said food means the difference between life and death, what are modern feminist women good for?

Want a test? Hand your girlfriend a dead rabbit some cattail roots and dandelion green and tell her you want dinner in 2 hours. In a modern kitchen with a wide array of spices, seasonings and condiments at her disposal. Better yet, give her a live chicken and tell her you want it for dinner. This is a “test” virtually any woman would have been able to pass with flying colors 3-4 generations ago (prior to the 1950’s). Hand her a bag of doves after a days hunt and would she know enough to pick the birdshot out of the meat before it’s cooked? Would she know how to cook them?

Would a “modern woman” have any idea how to plant seeds in February to have hardy sprouts to plant in early April? Would she be able to tend a garden? Would she even know when her vegetables are ripe? Does she know how to do basic water-bath canning? If she can’t do that then forget about giving her a pressure cooker and telling her to can a few dozen chickens. God forbid you should drag a deer home (although dressing out a deer tends to be man’s work). Would she know to soak the meat for 24 hours in a brine solution to remove the “gamey” taste? Would she have any idea how to cook really lean meat like that? Does she have any idea of how to use a meat grinder to make sausage?

Lest it sound like I’m being too hard on the women, what men out there have the basic tools to do what I’ve just described? A large vat for water-bath canning, sufficient jars and lids, food grinders, meat grinders, basic butchering tools like a heavy cutting board, cleavers, a meat saw and sharp heavy duty knives? The answer is not many. How many guys know how to make a net-knitting needle and use it to knit a net? This sounds like a reality show, but it was only a few generations ago the vast majority of households had this as standard equipment.

I have friends who lived through the Bosnian civil war. Those who lived in the country didn’t do so badly, but those in the cities and in contested zones had to deal with shelling and snipers. hiding in the basements during daylight hours, going out at night to get water and forage for what they could find. And guess what- it only took about a month for that country to go from relatively peaceful to full-blown civil war with armor and artillery. Those people suffered severely, but keep in mind that a large contingent of the population had the tools and skills to survive that have all but disappeared in the US today.

I don’t know whether it’s a good or a bad thing, but I believe we have reached the point that the US will get its “system reset” within the next two decades. There is no way to stop the fall of women in the current environment, with one exception: as a father, using his influence on his daughters. I’ve written extensively on this, but suffice to say that in this current environment a man can have a stable and durable marriage that can’t be destroyed by divorce, but the only way that’s possible is for him to have more than one wife. There are several tricks to this, among them, the marriage is by contract, not license, with a well-written contract of marriage that covers all aspects of the marriage including how it works if any of the wives chooses to leave at some point.

With more than one wife (preferably 3 or 4) the women have their own “herd” to shape their behavior, they compete with each other for their husband’s attention, they get their emotional needs met with each other, their husband stays aloof and dominant (more attractive), and best of all the state cannot recognize it as a marriage. The state is forced to see the marital contract as an enforceable cohabitation contract. If the husband has children with all the wives the courts will be loath to separate siblings and given a choice between giving the children of one woman to her or leave them with a still-intact family with their brothers and sisters, the father will in all likelihood get custody of the children. In other words, the incentives are arranged to stay in the marriage rather than nuke the family for cash and prizes.

That is the only workable marital solution available in today’s legal environment. Other than that, the only thing men can do is prepare for what’s coming. That means finding a rural or semi-rural location, building suitable housing and developing food production. Aquaponics is something that anyone who wants to produce food needs to learn about because an aquaponics setup can be built just about anywhere provided you have a source of water and minimal electric service (could be run with a solar cell and battery bank system).

This can also be a very lucrative solution if one chooses a location in which ginseng can be cultivated. Wild simulated ginseng cannot be distinguished from wild ginseng and currently it’s bringing about $1000 a pound. Yes, it takes about 10 years to get large and really valuable, but you’re legally allowed to harvest and sell it after it’s 5 years old. 10 acres, planted correctly and cared for will be worth millions of dollars after 10 years. At twenty years it’s much more valuable. It’s like money in 1-year CD’s that the government can’t steal. Every fall you get to decide whether to cash out some of it or roll it over to the next year.

What I’m describing is known as “homesteading” and it not only requires holding down a job to pay the bills, but the homestead is like a second job with plenty of brutal back-breaking work that will leave you exhausted and unable/unwilling to muster the energy to chase the available women. Learning animal husbandry, the basics of agriculture and horticulture, food production and storage, seed saving, timber management and all the other things necessary is like going back to school to get a degree in something you never knew existed. But one benefit of such a lifestyle is it forces you to think in terms of cycles.

There is a cycle to everything that generally follows the course of birth, young growth, mature growth and production, decline and death. Modern women have chosen a path of birth, young growth and a decline leading to death. Death, if not physical then certainly spiritual; and that soulless thousand-cock stare is a dead giveaway that she’s nothing but a cancerous poison beyond the capacity of a man to redeem her.

Men should stop chasing the idea of a woman as a “soul-mate” and accept them as they have chosen to present themselves: nothing more than a series of warm, wet holes. Sounds brutal? Deal with it. Want to change it? Take on the job of fathering daughters and spend almost 2 decades training them up in the way they should go. That’s the only way to change things in this environment because the adult women have already drunk the kool aid. Want a decent wife, with no guarantee she’ll go off the rails at some point in the future? Seek out men who have been diligently raising quality daughters.

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Don’t forget Ephesians 5:25 ‘Husbands, love your wives,
just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her.’

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Yep. I couldn’t agree more. But, how does a husband love his wife as Christ loves the church? Take a look at one way Christ loves His church, found in Revelation 3:19

“Those whom I love I rebuke and chasten, be zealous therefore and repent.”

A rebuke is verbal, chastening is done with a rod. You’ll never hear a pastor mention it, but husbands are specifically commanded to love their wives as Christ loves the church and that specifically includes disciplining their wives, and that includes corporal punishment. And to be honest, I’ve seen plenty of wives who would be far happier if their husband gave them a trip across his knee from time to time and they *knew* if they got out of line far enough there would be a price to pay.

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Women are not children. Physically punishing your wife would land you in jail. If a man tried that with me, I might find myself in jail as well. Menfolk might be stronger- but you have to sleep sometime..frying pans are useful for more than cooking.. smile

And don’t tell me I would be happier being beaten by my husband.. I can’t believe creatures like you exist. But they obviously do… Cause here you are- just a ribbiting away.. Go back to your toad hole

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Interesting. You automatically equate being held to a standard of behavior and personal discipline as a bad thing, and refer to corporal punishment as being “beaten.” Sounds like you had a lousy childhood.

Then, to cap it all off, your rebellion against being held accountable for your actions is so strong that you claim you’d resort to attacking someone while they slept with a frying pan. Obviously you’re female, damaged and just the sort of woman every man should stay away from.

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Spanking an adult woman is still considered domestic violence you idiot. Yes you would be beating her. Men like you are a curse to womanhood. May you all go the way of the dinosaur- cause your archaic backwards viewpoint ain’t welcome in a civilized society.

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don’t worry when the muslim immigrant that the west have taken will be in majority in 60 years, since thanks to the feminist and the unfair divorce court less and less men want to be married and there is less children birth among the western citizen.

i am sur the women from this time will like their viewpoint.

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For shits and giggles, let’s say the mainstream view is that corporal punishment is what’s needed to keep women in line. What’s keeping men in line? If women are to be submissive, devoted, loyal loving and caring, what are they getting in return? An aloof husband?? A husband who continues to troll bars or go overseas to fuck other women? A husband, who said his woman better be ok with him having sex on the side but she can’t? A husband who will dump the mother of his children if she doesn’t keep her 20 year old body? A husband who advises other men to ignore girls because they have nothing interesting to say and should only be opening their mouths to put his dick in there? A husband who sees women as nothing more than a warm hole? I’m making references to some of the stuff some men have written on this site because these are the men who are reading your post. Women aren’t mindless bodies without needs. The men who see women this way don’t deserve loving loyal and respectful women, just like women who see men as useless animal rapists don’t deserve a nice loving man. When men and women see each other this way, there is literally no where to fucking go from there even if men and women change to their ideals. Its like rotten fruit, once its gone bad there’s no way to make it fresh again.

You very clearly stated what you see wrong with today’s modern women, but look at some of what’s posted here. Now there are some intelligent rational guys here with something interesting to say but many are bat shit crazy. Are those the kinds of guys you want marrying your diligently raised daughters?

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This man is pro polygamy. No doubt he would not feel a bit of guilt for marrying an under aged female offspring to a man older than himself. He might wait till she is legal though. This is why the archaic type patriarchy needs to be demolished forever../ and ever

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What’s keeping men in line?

The way it used to be was also straight out of Scripture and was part of God’s punishment of King David for murdering Bathsheba’s husband Uriah. “What you did in private will be done to you in public.” As recently as 1913 men were publicly flogged for “wifebeating” in The US. Everyone understood that there was a huge difference between spanking and beating. Spanking is corporal punishment, beating is using her for a punching bag.

I know quite a few guys who have done their best to raise their daughters correctly and their daughters don’t date, they court. The daughters are only allowed to court a young man that’s been thoroughly vetted by the father with help from other men in the community. If the young man has a good report, the father and mother want to meet his parents before allowing the kids to start courting, because a marriage joins the two families together. If you think about it, all they do is still nothing compared to the exchange of information that takes place in a business merger.

A husband who continues to troll bars or go overseas to fuck other
women? A husband, who said his woman better be ok with him having sex on
the side but she can’t? A husband who will dump the mother of his
children if she doesn’t keep her 20 year old body?

Don’t know where that came from, but part of the deal with being married is to be faithful. Biblically speaking, the only permissible sex is within marriage. Period. A husband who can’t be faithful to his wife or wives isn’t much of a man and is a piss-poor husband regardless of how well he might provide for his family.

Children learn by osmosis. To teach fidelity one must live it out in front of them. To teach honesty one must be honest. The same is true with pretty much all the virtues as well as the vices.

I’m pro-polygyny for two major reasons. First is that it’s a Biblically sanctioned form of marriage. God had two wives (Jeremiah 30- God was married to Israel and Judah, He divorced Israel and later sent Judah away) so don’t try to tell me it’s wrong. There is literally nothing in the Bible that prohibits such marriages and for those who want such a marriage God provided His rules in the Law. Believe me, I’ve heard every possible objection and none of them amount to anything.

(I’m not Mormon in any way and I think the reason they do the underage girl marriage stuff is if they let the girls grow to maturity most of those women would refuse to marry those older guys.)

I don’t think more than 20% of men could make it work, given the way men are today, but that isn’t the point. The reason polygyny is culturally not acceptable is because of Catholic doctrines promulgated in the middle ages when the church was at war with the nobility and their best weapon to control the nobility was to take control of marriage and restrict the reproductive options of the nobility. All you have to do is look at how many times wealthy nobles died without an heir and left everything to the church to understand this, and why adoption was not allowed by the church for almost 1000 years.

The second reason I’m in favor of polygyny is it’s a rational response to the insane legal environment we have today, where it’s easier to get out of a marriage than a cell phone contract. All the incentives are perversely positioned to reward the destruction of the family by women. All you have to do to see that is look at China’s experiment with western-style divorce laws, which saw an explosion in divorce as women realized they would be able to legally steal half their husbands property. The divorce rates were approaching 50% when they changed the law to stop the legal theft and the rate of divorce plummeted back to where it was before.

This is an area I’ve researched and written about extensively (6 books) and in doing the research I’ve gotten to know dozens of Christian polygynist families. I seldom meet monogamous families as successful as them. In interviewing teenaged daughters, most of them are uninterested in monogamous marriage. If that doesn’t speak loudly, nothing does. The reason is they hold to the biblical definition of marriage:

The father’s permission
The agreement of man and woman to marry
The consummation of the marriage
Cohabitation as husband and wife.

The girls know they’ll never have to marry a man they don’t want to marry and they also know that if their father gives his permission it’s a statement by him that he believes the young man is her best choice and he has his full approval.

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Those examples of husbands I described are based on the attitudes expressed by many of the men here. While you believe that men should be faithful and upstanding, most of the audience here is not interested in becoming better men, they just want women to become Stepford wives while they continue to sleep around and treat women like crap. So you are right, this ideal of marriage isn’t going to work for most men, esp the ones on this site.

Re marrying underage girls. I’m assuming you’re referring to the Jeff Warrrn cult. As someone who has studied polygamy I’m sure you know that the more mainstream polygamists are against this and remember these women were forced to marry dirty old men because no they would never choose to marry them.

I’m not into polygamy personally but I’m not going to attack you for your views. I’ve seen documentaries where the women are all for it and even one community where it’s the women who choose the man, saying this is who God told them to marry. I think there are many things that don’t work in polygamy but then there are lots of things that don’t work in monogamy. Personally I’m not into sharing men, but to women who are, go for it.

I do think that consenting adults who choose this way should have the legal right to do that, just like people who have the legal right not to have a polygamist marriage.

Have you read The Lonely Polygamist? Its good, actually quite funny.

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Well if the shit hits the fan most everybody is gonna suffer. Most men I know don’t have the ability to live off the fat of the land- much less boil water. So why are you pointing the finger at women? We ALL rely on modern technology.. Way too much. And guess who is responsible for that? Feminist?? Nope. Look in the mirror. What gender do you see? Yep. I give men full credit for inventing the technologies that ultimately will be our downfall. We have become lazy and apathetic due to convenience. Which was solely done by you. But thanks for saving my back.

I see youre pro polygamy- must belong to the cult of Mormon.? I am pro polyandry myself. So we at least have something in common. smile

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the men who are just as useless as women you speak of are useless due to the fact that feminism made the men this way. Feminism so corrupted the society and nature of women in the West, that many men, since they can no longer traditionally court women in the traditional sense of the word, over time, became messed up. Now many men today are weak, SJW , hipster types. They are no longer the masculine men of yesteryear. So, you are right about many men not being able to .ive off the ‘fat of the land’ nor even being able to boil a pot of water for that point. The reason? I stated is feminism’s corrupting influences of western society to both women and men. Btw, feminism was most likely perpetrated by the elites to destroy the family, ( currently in the form of high divorce rates which are usually perpetrated by the woman because she gets “bored”) Watch this:

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Oh there we go again pinning all the blame on women ( feminism) I really wish you would see that feminism is only a droplet of paint on a much bigger picture. Excessive greed, ambition, and reckless disregard for the well being of others are quite honestly more of a male tradition-they effect society greatly and are no more feminisms fault than the Man on the moons.

I would personally rather live in an Egalitarian society than a patriarchal one. And no the West is not matriarchal. Men and women enjoy equal rights here and that is good.

Men not being able to boil water is feminisms fault??? Quite the opposite- men who can’t ” boil water”were never taught domestic chores cause their co dependant mommies did all the cooking and cleaning for them. (That has always been my experience when I came across such men-children) -Those that can’t live off the fat of the land can’t because most live in suburbs and cities and are far too reliant on conviences period.
Who are you going to blame for that?? Not feminism.
People are accountable for where they choose to live and what they choose to learn. Yes everyone..

Women are no more corrupted than men by the way. This cock carousel nonsense is a myth. Most people in the west have sex within relationships. I wish everyone would wait until marraige- but only I can control my actions. Yes one night stands occur- but both parties are guilty of being whorish and stupid.

To simply state women get divorced due to being bored is ridiculous. Divorce is caused by a breakdown of communication between the couple, I not going to place the entire blame on men, but many of you are emotionally retarded. While women are guilty of unrealistic expectations and believe they are princess- poof- which, hey is another form of emotional retardation.

Now there are issues with radical feminism- false rape accusations, slut walks, affirmative action, women’s studies in colleges ( which are not based in fact) I am sure we both would agree on these topics.

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Want a test? Hand your girlfriend a dead rabbit some cattail roots and dandelion green and tell her you want dinner in 2 hours. In a modern kitchen with a wide array of spices, seasonings and condiments at her disposal. Better yet, give her a live chicken and tell her you want it for dinner. This is a “test” virtually any woman would have been able to pass with flying colors 3-4 generations ago (prior to the 1950’s). Hand her a bag of doves after a days hunt and would she know enough to pick the birdshot out of the meat before it’s cooked? Would she know how to cook them?

My hillbilly grandmother probably would have known how to make a meal from that kind of foraging. I watched The Beverly Hillbillies back in the 1960’s, and while I laughed at it, the show also made me uncomfortable because I had relatives not much more sophisticated than the Clampetts. My grandfather even talked about building and running stills as a young man, like Granny Clampett’s.

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How could I thank Roosh enough? I am an American girl and Roosh’s writing has really given me hope. I was in college with this empty feeling just thinking- is this all life has to offer? Drugs, alcohol, everything just to escape from myself. I thought it was normal. I wandered around Europe in a post-American college life haze just searching to find some deeper meaning of life. Everything I saw changed everything I believed before. Roosh’s writing was a confirmation and just the biggest weight being lifted off, that someone would really say, “This isn’t normal. You are fucked up.” It gave me hope that life has more meaning. so how could I thank you for that? love you brother.

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So did you convert to Islam or what? Any way… Your gushing love letter to Roosh reminds me of how the Manson Chicks once praised Charlie. You would make a wonderful Isis bride.

You sound like a very co dependant person period. If so fine, but don’t expect that of other women.

Freedom may not be good for you after all. But it is good for most. Should your weakness and bad choices negate this woman’s strength and responsibility ?

No,not and nope!!

If you want a man to control you move to the Middle East or find a love connection with one of the many backwards apes here.

Just don’t force your backward views of women’s submission on us Western gals and I will be okay with that..

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I do get your point. I cannot stand the weak slimy men who grope from one girl to the next. I think Loyalty is an alpha trait.

Yet from a purely selfish point of view, Roosh’s writing has improved my quality of life. I’m talking about his practical advice (’42 Things Wrong with American Women,’ etc.). I experimented with some of these tips and experienced a positive result. Yes I did marry a Muslim and convert to Islam. I get your point because these men might show psychopathic traits.. Here’s a psychopath test I once heard: Would you push one person in front of a moving train in order that the train would save two people lying on the tracks? I think these men who sleep with a lot of women in search of knowledge that will save womankind are kind of like that. I feel very badly for the girls who were manipulated by them. In the end, their actions are carried out in the name of the greater good, at least in their minds.

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Well if you are happy, then I am happy for you. But see, you were allowed to choose your lifestyle.

Rooshes latest posts are proposing that our freedom of choice be taken away, and this is horribly wrong. Myself and many other American women are capable of thinking for ourselves- we don’t need men to do it for us. This is not to say I don’t respect a mans opinion- but they are fallible as well.
I actually watched the vid “38 things wrong with American Women ” and agreed with 37 of the complaints (I don’t do heels) Especially that wearing pjs in public is retarded. (That is one of my biggest pet peeves)
I am perfectly fine with this video and the infamous fat shaming campaign. It’s a little harsh but very true and much more productive than flat out forcing women into submission.

I apologize for initially being an asshole. You are a very kind and patient lady and did not deserve that.

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“In the end, their actions are carried out in the name of the greater good, at least in their minds.”

I think you might be looking at Roosh through rose tinted spectacles. I’m sure his dick is his primary concern.

I am feeling your original point, however. I don’t like going out drinking and fucking around and other people make me feel like a weirdo. The redpill has been really helpful and I’m sure it can help other women to. But if the Manosphere wants to help it sure isn’t very welcoming. Also it smacks of white knighting. I can save myself.

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“PROJECT ROOSH ISLAND”
Let the game begin

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It don’t make since to preach about fucking different girls while complaining about girls are loose imo

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So Roosh…in accordance with this post, when can we expect to see you take down all of your online resources teaching men how to convince women to fuck quickly? (i.e., about 90% of your web site)

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I don’t know why but somehow this rings deep into my being. Probably one of the best advice that a man can have from another man, and a woman too. This article is the start and the stop of all the problems that women face which is categorized into ‘Solution: Feminism’.

Thank you for sharing this. This was worth my time. smile

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Arjuna’s Lament in Bhagavad Gita:
With the destruction of dynasty, the eternal family tradition is vanquished, and thus the rest of the family becomes involved in irreligion.
When irreligion is prominent in the family, O Krsna, the women of the family become polluted, and from the degradation of womanhood, O descendant of Vrsni, comes unwanted progeny..
An increase of unwanted population certainly causes hellish life both for the family and for those who destroy the family tradition…

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lol. women are doing better than men. they are less violent, less destructive, more moral, less fat. if anything; women should be in control of american men – not the other way around. a lot of the misogynist patriarch wannabes here could definitively benefit from mommy putting them over her knee and giving them a firm “NO!”.

of course. i’m not actually advocating that. neither gender should be in “control” of the other. and if you sick creeps try, well – the Yadzi women are showing us how to deal with men who seek to violently dominate women. they’re “setting examples” every day, so to speak smile

now, by all means, keep dreaming of Gor, you evolutionary throwbacks. women will be busy actually creating a free and awesome future for themselves and their daughters. a future where no woman will be controlled by any man smile

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And don’t forget about “the Mancession”, where men are losing jobs while women are picking up more jobs. Yes, those men who are still employed do earn the full $1.00 to the women’s $.78 of that, but with women being the main hire for so many companies how long will that matter?

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lol, once men will have no option they will destroy the world and society. let see how you women will have it good in a lawless world filled with nuclear radiation.

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That was a very misandrist thing to say against men. Worse yet, your low opinion of men even made you ‘lol’.

Sadly, as always, even feminists have higher opinion of men than men themselves do sad

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“women will be busy actually creating a free and awesome future for themselves and their daughters. a future where no woman will be controlled by any man :)”

Keep up this liberal feminist joke for any longer and the sick creepy males you speak of will let you rot in the hands of ISIS, then you can see what a “free and awesome future” looks like. You’d get blown off the face of the Earth if the more powerful species wasn’t willing to protect you.

Women are huge badasses until shit hits the fan.

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Group trap.

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It looks like Roosh is hitting the wall. He should have married Anna.

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Good approach

We’ve got enough people describing the problem, it’s time to outline the solution.

A lot of red pill men still subconsciously believe in sociological myths, that women’s innate nature can be changed. But like all human traits, the the only variable is the environment. By its very nature, the female mind, even a capable one, will devolve to frivolous, feel-good social matters at the expense of greater and more important things. It is up to us to ignore the noise, and create an environment that fosters healthy and rationalist gender roles, one based on function and utility – not social sensibilities

And btw, some of the best articles regarding cultural rot are posted here, you should really crosspost them to RoK

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If we want to change women into the sacred feminine we all want them to be, we need to get rid of the state and capitalism. No, i’m not advocating for communism, but a RBE (resource based economy). The idea that we have to perform out dated and get exploited by capitalists is horrible. If we remove wealth, materialism, and statism, society would massively change, and women wouldn’t be the degenerate whores they are. We could actually all do what we love and focus more on space and technology. Who knows the possibilities are endless, capitalism and money are pointless and only holding us back.

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You know Jacque Fresco made a living as a con man and a charlatan, don’t you?

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So in other words, treat them like children or birds in gilded cages. I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE THAT NEEDS TO BE RESTRAINED AND LOCKED UP YOU LUNATIC.

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How much foreskin will men have to restore before they feel whole again in order NOT to be afraid of women and NOT speak and act like manic paranoids?:)

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Surely men are just as likely to be influenced by these external pressures?

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While reading that, I swear I saw a Saudi cleric waving his finger in the air.

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Am I the only one to notice how Roosh is heading toward Islam? Because this is indeed how the “solution” to the problem he describes is called.

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Really sad to see so many desperate, looser-ilooser-in-life men.

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Not enough women here to collect your reward of internet pussy validation. Comment this on Jezebel, maybe one of them will throw you a bone.

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Religion is the evil.

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Perfect description of a women

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You know what societies are really *good* at protecting the decency of their women? Islamic ones. Because they’re not afraid to spill blood to do so.

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This guy has a very negative hateful view of women. To any of you guys that follow him, be careful what it does to you. If you have the same outlook then you’ll advance no further than fucking “sluts” as roosh says, and you’ll never make a deeper connection.

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It’s not your business if women want to pursue a career. You can’t generalize all women and you are not a women so you cant speak for them. You are acting like women have no ability to make decisions.