Hung Up On The Opener

Guys always ask me the same question when I return from approaching a girl.

What did you say?

Specifically, they want to know what my opening line was. I ask the same question to other guys too actually, and it’s because the nature of the game dictates that the opener is the hardest part. You always want to know how this guy started an interaction with a cute girl.

This isn’t a bad question to ask because it can give you ideas, but understand that what you say is less important than if you actually say it. When it comes to approaching, doing is far more important than doing right. And I know this because my off-the-cuff openers are usually pretty retarded. The last opener in a coffee shop that resulted in at least a number was, “You look like you are having a hard time studying,” and at night it was, “You should have given him your number” (referring to some random dude who walked away). These aren’t even worthy of being copied because they are just average, but the fact that these casual lines got me in meant that the better parts of my game could now take over. The lack of an award-winning opener should never prevent you from talking to a girl you like.

After sharing an opener with a guy that resulted in some type of number or fluid exchange, you’d think he would want to immediately try it out. But he doesn’t—he just stands there, wondering how that could have possibly “worked” as cute girls walk by. Guys hung on words are waiting for the perfect line to deliver on the hottest girl. That’s not game—that’s playing the lottery, waiting for the one in a million jackpot to bring you riches. Approaching is more like the poker grind, where you lose a majority of your hands dealt but can still go home a big winner.

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boc
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Top notch quality shit, as usual. Well done.

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“what you say is less important than if you actually say it.”

true. and *how* you say it is more important as well.
i’ve used some really contrived openers that went over well based on nothing else than my body language on the approach and how i said the opener. i know this because when i ask girls i’m dating to rate my cheesy openers they all say “oh man, that is so lame! that would never work on me!”
but of course, it has worked. the moment is everything.
the best openers are situational anyhow.

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How bout-“Bitch I’m ritch”….works everytime

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Energy, attidude is everything. I got some openers that kill. Especially, “I love me some peetza, a peetza your ass!”. :bigsmile:

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“You look like you are having a hard time studying”

That’s a line? When people approach me with that kind of stuff I just assume they are being nice and trying to make conversation. I’m so fucking naive sometimes.
When trying to pick up women, being humorous is usually a plus. I like the number line. That’s golden.

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Same shit applies to sales.
Gotta swing to hit.
After you do this same type of crap in sales – you start to see patterns in the persons reaction to your opener. That is when your game gets in A+ shape.
Its when you can see down the line 4 steps ahead of the response. Its almost robotic and stale after a while.
You think to yourself — ok I say this — they either say this or this — then I say this — and then she says this or this — and then its on.

what a sad world we live in.

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While he was in med school, one of my friends would buy the text books for freshman and sophomore biology, chemistry and other science classes and walk around the library looking for girls who were studying for those classes. He’d then go up and say something like, “oh you’re in Bio 101 too? I’m having such a hard time. Can I study with you?” Don’t know how often that worked or how the girls reacted once they found out he was actually in med school but I thought it was pretty funny.

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That is why in life, good salesmen don’t look like they are trying to sell you when in fact they have you sold — and works the same way with women.

A guy who gets laid a ton usually comes off as relaxed – cool and calm. He doesn’t look like he is trying to fuck you — when in fact he is simply counting down the hours in his head before he gets to take your pants off. Knowing all along that this is nothing but a game. He pushes button A – you push button b – he responds and before you know it your are waking up next to him. I never thought like this until someone pointed this out to me and showed me how it worked.

crazy.

its some sick shit.

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I disagree with you tampa. Direct game works well and you straight up tell them you are into them.

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While walking down the street the other night, I encountered a group of seemingly fun-loving dudes. One of them, a ceteris paribus hottie whose confident demeanor caught my eye, exaggeratedly checked me out as I passed and then sighed, “I could snuggle the -fuck- out of you.”

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My line in high school was “Hey, do you have a quarter I need to make a call.” I think I may have posted this before. Man, I spend way too much time on here!

Anyway, the line used to work because I’d set it up like I was gonna ask them out, but I’d just ask for money. If they found me amusing, I’d say “While you’re at it, do you have anything to eat.” Hahaha. If that worked I’d say “Well, after, do you just wann get married, then?”

You may have to have a reputation as a normal person in school to pull this off. It might not work on a stranger.

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The “you should have given you his number one” is pretty good. You can easily transition into complementing her after talking for a bit, which never hurts.

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I ask if they prefer circumcised or uncircumsiced penises.

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Game? I’m sorry but it freaks me out a bit that pulling is seen as a sport. Meet someone, get on well, have a bit of fun… great! Talking about ‘game’ strikes me as suckering someone in so that you get laid or whatever and hopefully they will be happy enough with you that they don’t dump you when they figure out you’re taking them for a ride (excuse the pun). Tell me – am I just well behind the times?

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^^^ :laugh:

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Women are used to getting hit on, and it’s always the same lame lines. Instead strike a conversation, and make her chase you a little, if she can’t carry a decent conversation do you really want this woman that bad? I always like to start off by commenting on something she has on her or near her and get her opinion or reaction to my comment, if she’s not busy she’ll usually respond back and I just start talking to her as if she was one of my oldest friends. Hopefully by the end of the conversation I’ve demonstrated that I’m the type of guy that she wants to hang out with and she’s demonstrated that she’s the type of girl I’m looking for.

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Kind of interesting you’d use the line – “You look like you are having a hard time studying”.. That’s kind of cheesy; if she’s studying, then yeah, she’s having a hard time because you’re bothering her!

Me – (when I used to date! I’m out of practice!) I liked the straightforward approach.. by men, and on my end too. I once worked at a bookstore in college (great place to meet a certain “type” of man), and once I asked a guy if I could help him find a book. Like 2 minutes later, he came back up to me and asked if I would have dinner with him. And even though it was kind of random and because he didn’t beat around the bush and play games, I said yes. And it was great.

I’m also not shy either. There was once a guy I liked, and I would time my morning work break to Dunkin Donuts with his morning break to DD’s, too. I wasn’t shy about telling him what I wanted!

I just don’t like games. You wanna ask me out? Then just ask. Or don’t.

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What you refer to as “average” openers that you use, are perfect ones.
Most people want a catch all line that will work in any situation.

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i live in stockton so all the girls here have gun shot or stab wounds..or stretch marks but its a good place to practice if u dont get jumped lol thanx for the tip tho g

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i usually ask girls if it looks gay if a guy wears a pink shirt or makes him stand out or the jealous gf thing…or what i should tell a girl (imaginary)to start up a convo anyone got some more ??

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One of my favs is “If I jump on your back, will you beat me off?”

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