I Am A Rapist

Some items off the rapist checklist:

1. You are a rapist if you get a girl drunk and have sex with her.

3. You are a rapist if you get yourself drunk and have sex with her. Your drunkeness is no excuse.

13. You are a rapist if you ‘nag’ her for sex. Because you manage to ply an eventual ‘yes’ from a weary victim doesn’t mean it’s not rape. You are a rapist.

14. You are a rapist if you try to circumvent her “No” by talking her into it. She’s not playing hard to get, and, even if she IS it’s not YOUR responsibility to ‘get’ her. You’re still a rapist.

17. You are a rapist if you don’t immediately get your hands off of her when she says ‘no’. You are a rapist if you take your hands off of her and then put them back ON her after 10 minutes and she eventually ‘gives in’ to this tactic.

18. You are a rapist if you won’t let her sleep peacefully without waking her every 15 minutes asking her for sex. Sleep depravation is a form of torture and YOU are a rapist.

21. If she said “Yes” to sex with a condom and that condom breaks and you proceed anyway then you’re a rapist.

27. If you had sex with her the night before but she doesn’t want morning sex and you pressure her for it anyway then you’re a rapist.

During sex, all the power belongs to the male because he controls the speed, tempo, force, and rhythm (unless he chooses to give it up). Even with consent, he is penetrating and he is violating. The author of this list tries desperately to equal the imbalance by making only one sexual interaction acceptable: when the man grovels and asks for explicit permission. To her this is acceptable because the man emasculates himself and transfers power and control — and his manhood — to her side. She doesn’t care about equality, or protecting women from men like me; she just deeply resents the fact that sex is where men completely dominate.

Den of the Bitter Beaver

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euro_girl
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I am shocked,does this woman really hate men so much? She needs to realise that men and women equally have flaws,rape is unacceptable,but so are many crimes.
I’m sick of hearing women cry about how men poorly treat them (not regarding rape but in general)

44. If you watch a woman being raped without calling the authorities then you’re as bad as a rapist and you may also be a rapist yourself.

I disagree,if you fail to contact the authorities after witnessing a rape it does not make you a rapist.It doesn’t even make you a coward,it means you made a poor decision.

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You’d better watch where you go lady because your going to get a shock of your life one day and there will be no point going crying to the authorities about it as it will be your own judgement.

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Oh yay, welcome to the Andrea Dworkin school of feminism where all heterosexual encounters constitute some sort of transgression and/or violence. Blah. As serious of an issue as rape is, as a feminist, I totally resent the radical militant tendency to blur all aggressive male behavior in with rape. It distracts from the actual problem of rape when it does occur. Yeah, a guy can be a total douche for pestering you once every 15 minutes for sex when all you want to do is sleep, but that isn’t rape so much as being incredibly annoying.

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WTF. There does not need to be a checklist, there’s exactly one way to be a rapist. This waters down the definition of rape and cheapens the pain of women who actually were raped.

If there is a “race card”, maybe there’s the same thing for rape: using the dread with which we regard the real thing to add false gravity to something which is not the real thing. A “rape card”, if you will.

Lonnie Bruner
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That biting beaver woman clearly writes that shit for the sole purpose of gaining the attention of men … and in this case, it worked.

Girls with daddy issues either become sluts or they won’t shut their pie-holes about how evil men are. Either way, men pay attention and their egos are inflated.

Virgle Kent
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Roosh don’t be so hard on yourself. We’ve all done number 18 aka The “snuggle and poke” at least once in our lives. That doesn’t make you a bad person……

she didn’t say anything about roofies did she? Then I’m in the clear

holla!

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Dear God – under these guidelines, I have raped my wife approximately 735 times.

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silly

The Dude
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This woman has deep seated psychological problems and also is probably a lesbian.

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Lmao…..Man this chick is dumb. Does she not watch animal planet???? Does she not see hippo’s harassing their partners for sex constantly?? Is that rape??? If my dog humps my leg during heat, is that rape???? Nothing worse than a women with a feminist mind.

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This feminist movement has gone too far. I know some guy at my college who nearly got Kobe’d, and the only reason he got off was the court found out that the girl pulled the we-had-sex-but-I-changed-my-mind-therefore-I-was-raped stunt before.

He didn’t go on a date for 3 years afterwards.

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I am utterly shocked at the man-hate from that site. Not only that, but the lack of logic and common-sense, especially with reference to alcohol. You’d think we adults would know the effects of alcohol, so hence if we’re choosing to imbibe it, we can face up to the consequences later on.

There’s a distinct lack of personal responibility associated with that sort of feminazism. Allow me to rewrite 1 and 3.

1) You are a DOUCHE if you get a girl drunk TO sex with her. A real man doesn’t need a prop to achieve his goal.

2) You are not rapist if you get yourself drunk and have sex with her. His drunkeness is no excuse if you were sober.

sigh…

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Somewhat more disturbing is the long list of “Hooray, men suck” from all of the comments on the site.

In fact, I didn’t even see a single comment against her, I’m wondering if she deleted them on the grounds that they came from men, who are automatically rapists, and therefore not allowed to post on her site.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to go engage in some Gitmo style sleep deprivation with my woman to make sure I get laid tonight.

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The saddest part of this whole thing is that in my relationships I’ve always been the one nagging for sex, more sex, and more sex. If only my man would bug me every 15 minutes….

I’m sad for this girl.

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This was almost funny..At first I thought it was a joke list, not some pysco woman who blames all her problems on men…These people actually create more problems than they think they’re solving..

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“3. You are a rapist if you get yourself drunk and have sex with her. Your drunkeness is no excuse.”

Wha? Even if she says yes? How does that work, exactly?

That woman’s blog is fascinating, by the way, in exactly the same way a horribly bloody construction site accident is.

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What would her opinion be if she substituted the words “guy” for “girl” and “girl” for “guy.”

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Where’s the “Feminist Lunatic” checklist?

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The one I had a real problem with was “If a woman tells you she was raped and you don’t believe her, you are encouraging rape”.

I’ve been accused of rape. I was innocent, and I was ultimately vindicated. Obviously this is nonetheless an issue that gets my blood boiling. The only crimes in the 21st century where you’re essentially guilty until proven innocent are terrorism and rape.

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The way I see, #21 is the biggest sticking point in the classification of a rape. If a woman consents to sex with a condom, she is not consenting to sex without one. Period. To go ahead without her consent, knowing that the condom is broken, is clearly rape. The rest of this laundry list points to egregious and disrespectful behavior, but not rape per se. Consent is consent. Lack of consent is Rape. The funny thing is that I’ve been formulating a post on condom use. Thanks for this.

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“Even with consent, he is penetrating and he is violating. ”

really? because then maybe we need to change the definition of ‘violating’ to one resembling the definition of ‘pleasuring’ !!!

This man and woman thing is good. And I see no “power” thing, that’s some freaky language there, even kinda scary.

….maybe its a dude thang….???

Anonymous
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You’re a woman, no?

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I can’t say anything that hasn’t already been said.

I just wanted to see my name on Roosh’s blog.

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Yes, her attitude is extreme.

She was raped at age 10 (really raped,
without any form of consent, not that
consent would matter at age 10) and that
started a series of events/relationships
that has seriously skewed her views of sex
and men.

If you want to know why her views are
the way they are, read her story.
It’s here:

http://bitingbeaver.blogspot.com/2006/03/bbs-story.html

Maybe some understanding can
reduce the inclination to simply mock.

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“Maybe some understanding can
reduce the inclination to simply mock.”

Are you kidding Rael?

She receives a great deal of intelligent, calm and logical responses and criticisms to her complete ridiculous word vomit. She ignores all of it, and seems to single out any intelligent post to bitch and nitpick at their responses in various areas of her site. She actually sits down, reads what some nice, logical response to her bullshit and then ignores it, details out of context points that (having been covered and refuted hers points) she finds and just repeats the exact same statement to “refute” the response that clearly refutes that very statement.

And please, don’t attempt to play that “she’s been traumatised, so of course she’s going to be hard to reason with” crap. She takes serious situations like her rape and makes them into ridiculous parodies through her pathetic overexaggeration that rapes like hers become demeaned by the very responses that she attempts to attack rape and rapists with.

As for her, and I will say it, “rape”…please.

Someone like her, who has been repeatedly raped since she was 10, went into an abusive relationship where she was “treated like a slave against her will, and only got out when she escaped to a friends” and not only has she not gone to the police with THAT attitude but she has not ONCE been able to substantiate her claims in any way. Despite many sites repeatedly asking her to. No names, not rapists names, no master names, not even her names.

Last I heard, she’s started the site when she was in College, later dropped out and continued it from home. She has no husband or boyfriend, despite her previous claims, and seems to hate anyone being nice to her.

Thanks to Anon and the power of the internets, lazy internet nerds were able to find this shit out. Fucked up her site for a while to, ’round 2004, which was quite funny.

Don’t pity her, she’s just another pathetic person who was given a normal life and chose (as she was given the option of knowledge to not be like she is) to become a pathetic bitch.

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Frankly, I think there’s a happy medium between where this girl is and where you are. Someplace between “If you have sex drunk, you’re a rapist” and “I’m going to get mine the way I want to get mine,” between her misguided “feminism” and your disgusting alpha-act, there’s normality. I feel bad for BOTH of you.

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Dude, “Biting Beaver” is notorious, as she is all kinds of fucked-up:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/BitingBeaver

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This is jsut ridiculous and embarrassing. I am a woman and I HATE this “lack of consent is rape” drama. If you drug someone or they are so wasted that they pass out and you have sex with them when they’re not or barely conscious, then yes it is rape. If someone is saying no and actually trying to push you away and you physically force them into sex while they struggle, or threaten to hurt them if they don’t submit, that is rape. Anything else is not. What utter BS that bit about people tired of being nagged for sex giving in equals rape is. If someone is being pushy about having sex and you’re really bothered by it, go into another room. Hit them in the face if you really want to prove your point. But don’t screw them and then whine about how you were just tired of them being pushy. Ugh. Women like this make all women look so bad.

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To Roosh the man hater.

You deserved the raping you received as a ten year old. You were begging for it, weren’t you?

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It must be horrible to be such a creeper that no woman Really want you that you must “get” her instead to be wanted by her.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8 Seems like some people are a bit thick