If you are a virgin, rejoice

I am still a virgin...the farthest I have gotten is a hand job (I didn't jizz/cum in my pants) from a Cuban stripper in Miami...never even kissed a girl in my life (except for on the cheek). No pussy, oral or anal penetration. Never have I sucked boobs or eaten pussy juice.

Proud to be a 100% virgin in these degenerate times!

I'm saving my cock for marriage! Only my future wife will be able to enjoy Moon's large phallus!

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@Roosh has haters

Fuck you @911 for getting me suspended for 3 days! You fucking faggot! @911 is on this forum for 24 hours a day...you have no life--you fucking loser!

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I don't mean to shill my thread but I made a thread years ago about Christian guys who believe what you currently believe. Maybe this would have added context to it. https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads...emale-friends-non-sexually.29417/post-1024088

I caught up with a bunch of beta Christian guys at a cafe, I knew one of them beforehand. I had nothing going on, so I talked with them. In the conversation, one of the guys was casually talking about the dates he had with many different girls. He was actually the most alpha/dominant/socially savvy in the group. I believe someone else brought up the topic, so it's not like he was trying to brag, he was saying it matter-of-factly. He did talk about how much he enjoyed the dates. A little later, still related to the topic, I was talking about dating and sex, and then it became obvious that while not judging me as a non-Christian for my beliefs, they clearly all believed in no sex before marriage. Ie he didn't bang any of the girls he went on dates with and still enjoyed it.

Another of those guys was actually talking about how bad his experience with sex was. Apparently, a "9"(I don't know if I can believe his ratings) made a move at him at a party. So he "slipped" and regretted it after because he would be breaking her heart and all. And it really messed him up because sex was something that was sacred yadda yadda. I was listening trying to keep a straight face. Later, he said how he mainly has female friends because he relates to them better than male friends.

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The intimacy I’ve had in the past does not at all serve me in the present. It doesn’t make me feel happier or more masculine. Instead, I feel regret and shame. I can’t stress how the sex I had in my life was in no way an addition. Instead, it was a subtraction, one that occupied most of my free time and intellect while taking my eyes off God.

This is the opposite of how I feel about my past with women. My "notch count" was far lower than yours, and I sincerely cared about and liked all the women I fornicated with during my fifteen years or so of agnosticism between falling away from the church I was raised in and meeting my devout Catholic wife.

I could never bring myself to seek out women to just pump and dump because it seemed cruel and wrong, even though I didn't really believe in the concept of sin at the time. So instead, I only looked for women I considered LTR material and my memories of the ones I was with make me smile even as I write this. Not just the memories of sex, but also of that. You talk of wanting to forget your memories of your past sin, which is understandable and logically seems more righteous, whereas I struggle with that because frankly, in this dreary life i haven't experienced much that truly seems more meaningful than holding a beautiful woman in my arms. I'd never stray from my wife because my family is more important, but letting those memories go is something that, to be perfectly honest, I don't want to do.

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When I was weeeeeeeell into my twenties, it didn't bother me a whit that I was still a virgin. The dudes getting laid like tile were degenerates; why would I brag about being like them?

It was only when the Christians on the dissident Right were getting all-in on the Game train that I started to feel like crap for not having "lost it" yet. This was the era when Roosh's star was rising. I tried to get into a worldly lifestyle but after many nights of going clubs and bars and standing like an idiot (because ratios or it was too loud to have conversation) and going home frustrated that I questioned, "What was the [censored]ing point?" Regretfully I started doing XTC and psychedelics and being torn between two opposite selves.

I finally lost in in the latter months of my 33rd year, to a long distance girlfriend who I didn't really like that much. My performance anxiety was through the roof and it's debatable if I even "lost it" at all. We broke up not long after.

This CoronaviRaceWar is a blessing in disguise. Since it's next to impossible to meet new people and since most people I see have been frightened into acting like sheep, I no longer yearn for a relationship like I did in the past. My salvation is my number one priority now.

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What an amazing transformation. Hallelujah!

While sex is one of the most pleasurable physical sensations I have experienced, it is such a fleeting sensation, and even a few minutes after the act, there is no residual pleasure from it, and in fact feelings of guilt or doubt or negativity may already be sinking in.

I've heard that taking heroin is even more pleasurable, but have never been tempted to try. Of course we all have a sexual drive, while there is no "drive" to try heroin, other than the natural tendency to hedonism and pleasure. But while women are harmed more by premarital sexual encounters than men, there are certainly negative side effects for men who are chasing this pleasure.

Taking a wife should be the most special event of one's life, next to fatherhood, one that is uniquely set apart from your interactions with other women. If a couple saves sexual relations for only each other, then their marriage will be truly a unique and blessed union, and they will be able to give each other something that no other human on the planet can. While finding a good wife seems perhaps the most difficult task I face today, if a man does find a good and loyal wife, I think the constant emotional joy one would have knowing that he saved sexual relations for this wife would outweigh the brief physical pleasures of the act itself.

There are times when sexual thoughts occupy my mind for long periods, and I think it is very common for this to happen to men in your 20s and 30s. With age comes wisdom and today it is far easier to see the actions I can take to minimize this temptation, and the ability to quickly put it out of my head and pray for clarity. Thomas Aquinas acknowledges this in his Summa Theologiae:

Augustine says (De Agone Christiano [Serm. ccxciii; ccl de Temp.; see Appendix to St. Augustine's works]) that of all a Christian's conflicts, the most difficult combats are those of chastity; wherein the fight is a daily one, but victory rare: and Isidore declares (De Summo Bono ii, 39) that "mankind is subjected to the devil by carnal lust more than by anything else," because, to wit, the vehemence of this passion is more difficult to overcome.

The elders and great men who built civilization almost universally shun premarital sex. But our modern "free" world has shunned this ancient wisdom and pleaded for us to "Do as thou wilt." The Christian message is clear, and it is echoed by the same admonitions from other religions worldwide, and even most philosophies. The "freedom" to fornicate is a false reward.

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Great article. I waited to have sex till I got married but only told a few friends. Most of my friends in their mid 20's viewed me as just "weird" or the "religious guy." I even had some people that questioned my sexuality because I did not look to fornicate with a woman when I went to the clubs. I was 25 when I met my wife who was 23. We both connected in that we put God first and agreed to wait till marriage. The longer we dated the more tempting it was to just have sex as all our other friends were doing so or going on vacations together etc. Before her I almost felt like giving up as I had met dozens of girls but no woman that truly put God first in their life. By both of us waiting till marriage, we developed a patience with each other that I don't think we would have had in our 10 years of marriage. I got made fun of but in the end the lack of experiences with other woman helped me as a husband be patient with her. It is possible finding virgin women but you have to look at the right places and you have to see if God is #1 in their life. It's better to marry a non virgin who has Christ centered in her life than marry a virgin who does not put Christ first as she will eventually get corrupted by the secular world.

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This comment is not to take agency away from people, but rather to say that when we are talking about what happens to people on average, or what they end up choosing in their lives, is just less than ideal - when the culture doesn't support healthy behavior and relationships. I know what Roosh is saying, and it's not excusing anything, but let's be frank: if the community or society (and thus women) don't value marriage at normal/young ages, how long is anyone going to "hold out"? Fr. Josiah would tell you the same thing. If Orthodox can't even match their own together, because "the world" or "career" etc, what do you expect?

I regret every sin I have committed, but I am pleased to know that I've learned something about myself and about our nature that can help myself and others turn to God, as a result. I'm just being honest here. We inherited a generation of really great stuff (materially, convenience etc) but also the madness and destruction of normal or healthy relationships, that typically comes with it. I guess the best we can do is struggle, repent, and move ahead in a healthier way.

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This comment is not to take agency away from people, but rather to say that when we are talking about what happens to people on average, or what they end up choosing in their lives, is just less than ideal - when the culture doesn't support healthy behavior and relationships. I know what Roosh is saying, and it's not excusing anything, but let's be frank: if the community or society (and thus women) don't value marriage at normal/young ages, how long is anyone going to "hold out"? Fr. Josiah would tell you the same thing. If Orthodox can't even match their own together, because "the world" or "career" etc, what do you expect?

I regret every sin I have committed, but I am pleased to know that I've learned something about myself and about our nature that can help myself and others turn to God, as a result. I'm just being honest here. We inherited a generation of really great stuff (materially, convenience etc) but also the madness and destruction of normal or healthy relationships, that typically comes with it. I guess the best we can do is struggle, repent, and move ahead in a healthier way.

You're more describing Mormonism or Islam, which needs a community and social control to maintain the rules. As Christians we don't require that, and don't need to swim with the culture. Where the culture goes is irrelevant if our faith is strong. You have the Gospel, now follow it with God's help, one day at a time. If you need the culture or your own willpower to succeed, you will certainly fail.

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You're more describing Mormonism or Islam, which needs a community and social control to maintain the rules. As Christians we don't require that, and don't need to swim with the culture. Where the culture goes is irrelevant if our faith is strong. You have the Gospel, now follow it with God's help, one day at a time. If you need the culture or your own willpower to succeed, you will certainly fail.

I'm just describing why things happen, and why we have seen what we have seen. Read my first line again - I'm quite clear about an analysis of things, overall. Fr. Josiah isn't talking about Mormonism or Islam, nor am I - I'm talking about the cultures I've seen in American christian communities, and many international ones even - you're off topic.

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Once the camel’s head is in your boxer shorts, it’s inevitable that you’ll succumb.

When we succumb to demon . There is no time left to pray to the god .

We start worshiping sex instead of god . Sex becomes our master .

You’ll think that just a little bit of porn won’t hurt you, or that masturbating once in a while is no big deal, or that checking out girls can’t be that bad because you’re “in control,” but I can tell you from experience that slipping just slightly opens the door just enough for Satan to flood your mind with filth. Once the camel’s head is in your boxer shorts, it’s inevitable that you’ll succumb.

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But no one can go Christianity alone. A new Christian especially needs to put himself under the direction of a priest.

What's the problem for YOU specifically to remain chaste? Don't worry about others. Do you not have the Gospel? Do you not have access to a priest or church? Do you not have the ability to pray? If so, why are you worried? People can use their own free will as they want. Most cities in America have churches of the pure faith. If someone wants it, they can find it. If you want to help them then fine, but I do sense in general from some a black pilled attitude as if all hope is lost. Materially, perhaps, but not spiritually.

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" . . . if i were a virgin, and maintained that virginity to honor God, I would be hesitant to marry a woman who is also not a virgin, but since I have sinned against God and violated my body innumerable times, I have little basis to seek a virgin, and instead seek a repentant woman whose previous sins I must forgive in the same way she forgives mine. "

Roosh:

That statement raises alot of questions I have wrestled with on an instinctive level my entire adult life and on a scriptural basis for at least a decade. I have come to my own conclusions through intense study of the scriptures and the observation in my own life, the perspective of which is that of a mid-forties divorced man with children who's only goal apart from entering the Kingdom is ensuring my children do not follow in my sinful foosteps. That said, I would like to know your scriptural basis for a man taking a non-virgin to wife?

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" . . . if i were a virgin, and maintained that virginity to honor God, I would be hesitant to marry a woman who is also not a virgin, but since I have sinned against God and violated my body innumerable times, I have little basis to seek a virgin, and instead seek a repentant woman whose previous sins I must forgive in the same way she forgives mine. "

Roosh:

That statement raises alot of questions I have wrestled with on an instinctive level my entire adult life and on a scriptural basis for at least a decade. I have come to my own conclusions through intense study of the scriptures and the observation in my own life, the perspective of which is that of a mid-forties divorced man with children who's only goal apart from entering the Kingdom is ensuring my children do not follow in my sinful foosteps. That said, I would like to know your scriptural basis for a man taking a non-virgin to wife?

I'm not a Protestant so I don't need "scriptural basis". Taking a non-virgin as a wife is not a sin in the Orthodox Church.

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I'm one that actually remained, and remain, a virgin well into adulthood. From a combination of both personal choice and lack of opportunity. I've known about the manosphere for the better part of a decade. Decided I had too much pride to waste time dancing like a trained monkey just for nookie. I did not have the natural good looks to carry me otherwise.

Honestly, don't recommend, unless you're in a monastic order. The choice seems to be join the degeneracy or withdraw entirely.

Anything else leaves you getting taken advantage of. Why would one save themselves only to later prostrate themselves before a whore?

Yes, that is a trap that young christian men or secular for that matter, will find themselves in quickly if they do not marry young. What's left in the marriage pool are other mens leftovers, which to me is a slap in the face to a man. Its a breeding ground in my experience for resentment, discontent and eventual divorce.

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