If You’re Instantly Attracted To A Man, He’s Bad For You

The following is an excerpt from Book II: Men of my new book for women, Lady. It is available in eBook, audiobook, and paperback. Click here to learn more.

If you were born in Europe, America, Canada, or Australia, you were raised in an environment that trained you to forsake your angel and feed your devil. Just being able to read English enables me to confirm that treating you badly, or at least showing that I don’t care about you, will excite you enough to start giving me the attention I need to fornicate with you. I’ve done it too many times to count, and have taught tens of thousands of men around the world to do the same.

Even though I’ve shared a few game tricks with you, you’ll still fall for them until you make a conscious effort to starve your devil and stop pursuing the reward of sex with an exciting, high-status man. What you may think of as listening to your instincts is really your devil feeding you harmful instructions. Trusting your instincts when your angel is absent will result in pursuing men who do not commit to you, and this pattern will continue for decades until the type of man you prefer no longer finds you attractive.

The first step to breaking this cycle and making better decisions is to overlay your malformed instincts with logic. With every man you meet, when the time comes to decide whether or not to take the interaction to a more intimate level, ask yourself the following: “Is this the type of man who will provide and protect?” If the answer is no, you should not go any further unless you don’t mind getting pumped and dumped.

A man who is not ready to provide or protect is feeding his own devil, which means he pursues sex for pleasure, variety, novelty, ego gratification, and excitement, and once these benefits disappear, which they usually do in a matter of weeks, he will bail on you without feeling any guilt. As I’m sure you already know, you cannot turn a player into a husband by convincing or persuading him to starve his devil. He must make the personal decision to listen to his angel before he meets you. This means that what you see is what you get. Apart from some superficial aspects, such as a man’s hairstyle or clothing, you will not change the essence of who a man is. If he changes a significant aspect of who he is, it will be because he made a conscious decision to change and not because of your influence.

Let’s say that you’re in a nightclub with your friends for a birthday party. Out of the corner of your eye, you notice a man talking to a beautiful woman who seems to be engaged in the conversation. He is stylish and one of the most attractive men in the room. He eventually walks up to you and introduces himself as Eric.

Eric’s conversation is smooth, and next thing you know you’re at the bar with him while he orders a drink from a bartender who knows his name. You can’t help but giggle at his jokes. He then cuts the conversation short and asks for your number while another beautiful woman seems eager to talk to him. Should you give him your number?

Let’s ask our logical question: “Is this the type of man who will provide and protect?” This is an easy no. A man doesn’t work on his game and hit the nightlife in order to get married and settle down, especially if he’s getting attention from many beautiful women. This man will give you excitement but nothing more, and you won’t be able to hold his attention for long even if you’re beautiful yourself because commitment with one beautiful girl is not what his devil wants.

Now imagine you’re in a crowded café reading a book. An average-looking man who desperately needs a style makeover asks whether he can share your table. As you’re getting ready to leave, he asks what kind of book you’re reading and if you like it. You notice that perspiration is forming on his forehead. You politely respond to him, and he does his best to maintain the conversation, but there are many awkward silences. He introduces himself as Bobby.

You are not immediately attracted to Bobby, but he seems to be a nice man with some redeeming qualities and a stable job. He finally asks for your number. Should you give it to him? To help you decide, realize that men who are not smooth around women find it very time-consuming and laborious to find just one woman to date. They prefer to focus on work, hobbies, sports, or socializing with friends. Because of this, they will avoid pumping and dumping a girl they’re interested in since it takes too much effort to find another girl, causing them to focus more on relationships than casual sex. Therefore, Bobby is a far better candidate than Eric to provide and protect.

On one extreme we have Exciting Eric and on the other we have Boring Bobby. Most of your encounters with men will fall somewhere in between. The problem is that your devil prefers Exciting Eric, who is ideal for one night only. It is likely that there have been many Boring Bobbies in your life who you put in the friend zone for safekeeping until the day when you could no longer get the attention of an Exciting Eric, but the problem with this strategy is that Boring Bobby will eventually find a girl who recognizes his worth.

You may argue that Bobby doesn’t give you “butterflies.” There isn’t any “chemistry.” He doesn’t have any “interesting” hobbies. He’s not “spontaneous” enough. He lacks “confidence.” All these complaints are from your devil, which wants you to find a man who can give you a temporary emotional high. If you insist on chasing emotional highs, it will be impossible for commitment to blossom.

Men will have sex with a girl they don’t care about simply to experience an orgasm or two, but they will only commit to a girl they believe has genuine worth. If you’ve been pumped and dumped, it means you were pursuing men who either weren’t looking to provide and protect or who wanted a relationship with a girl whose value was higher than yours. Remember that you want to find a man who sees your value as so high that he thinks he can’t get any better. From your devil’s perspective, it will be with a man who doesn’t seem like the best you can get. In other words, if your devil likes a man, beware! Your devil will always push you towards someone who will not provide and protect for what should be the rest of your life.

The above excerpt was taken from my new book Lady. It is available in eBook, audiobook, and paperback. Click here to learn more.

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Solid advice. I’ve given similar to my girlfriends when I was younger. I gave my best friend a straight-up lecture when she was thinking about backing out of her wedding because the groom didn’t give her all the butterflies. Today she’s happily married with four children and lots of love and support from family on both sides. She has since thanked me.

I’m the one who botched it up somehow – I married a Boring Bobby (same girl’s brother, actually) who apparently wanted nothing more than to be an Exciting Eric.

I’m looking forward to reading Lady. Curious if there’s any advice in there that might have kept me out of that mess!

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I don’t know the full story but maybe, keeping your mind out of emotions, you should have told him to grow up and wait for a while him to do so. Usually guys who sleep around have no intention to leave their wives.

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Problem is, everything looked pretty peachy (normal young couple struggles) until about four years and two kids into the marriage. And then it wasn’t just him sleeping around, he wanted us to be swingers because he didn’t have the confidence to pick up women on his own merit (that’s what I tried to encourage him to do when he finally revealed that our little monogamous church-going life wasn’t making him happy). We were both virgins when we got together, and his first “other woman” was one he essentially traded me for.

He WANTED to be a player, just like he wanted to be a millionaire – he wasn’t willing to earn either title himself. He wanted me earn the money AND barter my body to score him some strange.

It was all very icky, and yes I’m ashamed that I went along with it for a while. I’m also embarrassed that I didn’t see where it was all going long before it got to that point, but I was blindsided by it. I can see some red flags in retrospect, but they were pretty well buried. I can’t help but wonder if there was some big huge obvious thing that I missed.

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Probably why Fathers vetted Husbands as well.

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My dad was really good at teaching me a LOT about how the world really works, and keeping me away from bad influences in my youth, but his only input RE: marriage was “don’t get married.” So, yeah. He could have done better in that department. He didn’t get to know my ex very well, not enough to see through the “nice rural religious boy” facade any more than I did.

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Definitely a shortcoming.

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Of course, in those days a father could basically sell his daughter to the highest bidder–who was not necessarily the best man.

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Interesting life story.
Personally, I would never advise a woman to marry a virgin guy. I think a man should be at least ten years older than his wife and ready to settle down after having fulfilled (most of) his desires for female diversity.

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And at what age does that happen? (Still waiting.) 😉

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It isn’t necessary what there would be red flags and it isn’t necessary what all men could be categorised. Though you probably already answered your own question – if you both were virgins then it is obvious why he wanted to have some sexual experience with other women. Also for some men the fact what their wife is being banged=desired by someone else makes her more sexually desirable (cuckold/cheating fetishes aren’t rare at all among husbands, specially those who are closer to beta/submissive side of the spectrum), which is very actual for long marriages when you already not enjoy sex as much as you did when things just started. BTW I can’t imagine a man who would be fully satisfied with having just one sexual partner in his entire life, so him being a virgin could be considered as a red flag here.

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Indeed. Sex is not something to mess around with. Both men and women must seek a suitable spouse ASAP instead of the empty promises of hedonism.

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The two excerpts you posted are really good. Too bad no woman will listen to your advice because the – devil – has a firm grip on western, and especially English speaking, society.

It really does take a society (aka: religion) to keep the devil out.

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Woman here, and I’m listening. Thank you Mr. Roosh.

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Sex is not something to mess around with. Both sexes should seek a spouse and those who are suitable for being a spouse ASAP.

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There is no “should” in our emotional lives. It is definitely could help a woman lead more enjoyable life by seeking long term relationships, but it isn’t the case for men. Until man satisfy his inner “Devil” he wouldn’t be able to enjoy life to the fullest and always will have regrets. Woman wouldn’t have any such regrets at all because sex with multiple partners isn’t so important for their reproductive success.

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This is stupid and simplistic. There are a ton of women out there who do not want the Slut lifestyle, they simply are starving for role models to show them the way. Roosh is literally doing God’s work by mentoring these women. Your bitterness is causing you to write all Western women off.

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I agree that there are many women that don’t want that, but its almost like the guys who want to get married, but basically can’t nowadays. So what ends up happening is by the time a girl in todays society has finished college or even highschool, she has experimented a bit. But for you, is this a slut lifestyle?-If she has had multiple partners, which is almost always the reality.

“Bitterness is why we’re writing off all Western women.” LOL. It’s the exact opposite>>The declining state of Western women have made us “bitter”

The options now for women aren’t that good(In terms of finding an ideal mate early on, considering that guys tend to be able to support families later, and how most men now are cucks) unless they remain celibate, distant from social media and all the corrupting crap, which is basically living in a box. Girls are going to live some degree/version of the slut lifestyle and then right before hitting the wall claim they are traditional.

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“The declining state of Western women have made us bitter”.

Exactly. That’s my point.

Yes, the majority of them have become corrupted. Yes, many are enough to turn most men off.

But what is needed, and what Roosh is doing, knowing or unknowing, is the formation of a new movement, a new culture, a new Institution that will be a Role Model for women in the way to go.

They are not scared of you leaving the country. They are not scared of you becoming bitter. In fact, they welcome it. They are not scared of you becoming hateful, and despondent, and vitriolic.

They are scared of you banding together and brainwashing the citizens with a new Archetype. That’s their biggest threat. Somebody counter-programming their sheep.

That’s what Roosh is doing.

Forget those who are too far gone. Think instead of those lone women in the wilderness, never complying with the brainwashing but holding on to something, something lost, something faint, something barely there but in their minds, yearning for community.

They hear incessant Slut brainwashing, and then they come here, and hear people like you say all Western women are trash. Instead you should welcome the Refugees of our disgusting, totalitarian cultural dystopia. Welcome them. Teach them.

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The problem is not just women. There is a reason things have played out this way. And it’s not because women are internally bad or something. The external forces have purposely preyed on women’s hypergamy and follower instincts. In addition, the laws and societal brainwashing worldwide has men completed cucked & future mothers corrupted to the point the next generations within this framework can’t be changed.

The roots are deeper, it’s not just this country. It is more or less every country in the world, and more pronounced in Westernized countries.
And now with social media combined with all this makes this sickness exponential; it’s not going to change. Although some guys may be bitter, I’m just trying to understand the reality of things and move forward. I know all this is negative, but its reality. I can know this and still be positive, move on, and help others.

There are lone women in the wilderness, but regardless with time the laws and environment will change any woman, because it’s deeper than just being good willed.

Teaching is a great first step, but it will not last with the other factors. Teach those that can make a difference.

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Will they have to register for the draft like men do?

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Stop pursuing the reward of sex with an exciting, high-status man.

While I agree with this advice from a practical/logical point of view, you’re asking women to essentially override thousands of years of evolution which makes women hypergamous by nature. Women naturally seek casual sex with exciting high status men. They’ve always done this, although it was to some extent limited to a degree in the past by religion and social shaming. But it’s still very much an evolutionary impulse.

Logical advice, while it would solve her problems, naturally offends women’s sensibilities. It’s why they dislike it when men try to “solve their problems” with logic, and prefer venting to someone who will just agree with everything they already believe.

That said, this is good advice to pass on to daughters or women in your family that you care about.

A man who is not ready to provide or protect is feeding his own devil, which means he pursues sex for pleasure, variety, novelty, ego gratification, and excitement…

I have to disagree with this. A man who is “not ready to provide or protect” is often acting out of self-preservation and not wanting to get fucked over by divorce laws and family courts.

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Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. NPCs lol. Women dont want logical advice, they want validation. Its so common its cliche at this point:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/skills-healthy-relationships/201606/stop-trying-fix-things-just-listen

There are no social incentives for men to provide or protect anymore. Go MGTOW

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sandy vaginas, that’s why.

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Not understanding the down votes. It’s pretty obvious men aren’t going to write a check against a western woman.

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I say enjoy the downvotes. Shows you said something that got under someone’s skin. Or, even better, that people are stuck on you enough to follow you around downvoting your comments without even reading them. Now THAT’S flattery. 😀

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“you’re asking women to essentially override thousands of years of evolution which makes women hypergamous by nature. Women naturally seek casual sex with exciting high status men. They’ve always done this, although it was to some extent limited to a degree in the past by religion and social shaming.”

No disagreement. However, the reason social and religious restrictions on women’s hypergamous nature were developed is because unrestrained female sexual choice is incompatible with civilization. Either those social and/or religious restrictions are restored(an admittedly tall order) or the civilizational decline will accelerate into r-selection hell.

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what is r selection in women not making babies?

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r-selection doesn’t work when combined with contraceptives. Rabbits don’t have lots of babies on purpose, but because their frequent promiscuity has natural consequences which they simply cannot avoid.

This is why (((they))) encourage existing r-strategists to have lots of offspring, whilst finding ways to make men and women that would be naturally inclined towards K-strategy sterile.

And MGTOW belongs to (((them))), just like the portions of the “manosphere” which want men to constantly pursue ever more attractive women’s bodies for use in impotent masturbation.

Social conditioning can get an existing generation to change its behavior, but the biological predispositions will reset with each generation, because the conditioning is applied long after sperm meets egg.

That’s the deception, in that if we were really truly pursuing r-selection, then every white woman would be like Kate Gosselin, but instead of a single father, she’d have fucked so many men that trying to figure out which kid belonged to who would be a waste of time and money.

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“I dont know why i’m getting downvoted”

You’re getting downvoted because you made yourself look like a fool with that last paragraph by proving Roosh’s point of a man not wanted to “provide or protect” for a woman, while saying you disagree. I’ll explain below:

“I have to disagree with this. A man who is “not ready to provide or protect” is often acting out of self-preservation and not wanting to get fucked over by divorce laws and family courts.”

So if a Man’s reason to not “provide & protect” (in this case, settle down & marry a chick) is to not get fucked over by the courts, does that change the fact that the man in this made-up scenario is NOT good for the girl? This does not change the fact that the man is only looking for sex, or at most, a casual relationship, which will lead nowhere (No marriage, no children)

You see now why you’re being downvoted, right? You proved Roosh’s & only provided a more logical excuse, but it doesnt change the fact that “eric” only wants sex. Change Eric’s reason from wanting sex for pure pleasure & excitement, to “protect himself from the courts”.

I hate what the West has become as much as the next person, & I truly hate that we were unfortunate enough to live in an era of a dying empire (U.S) & not during its peak. What you all have to understand is that if we dont change the society around us, then the writing on the wall will become true. Men need to step up, find a decent woman & not be afraid of the courts.

I’m not saying you need to turn a slut into a housewife, but if men stay being afraid of “courts” and use it as a reason to not marry & have children, I dont want you bitching 30 years from now when Whites are a minority, or when every foreigner has taken your women. STFU if you’re a black-pilled fuckface. Some of us are trying to reverse the damage done to America.

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Astonishing reading comprehension fail.

I never said anything about anything being good or bad for the girl. I was addressing the very specific point that a man not wanting to “provide or protect” was “feeding his own devil.” If you go back and read the original comment carefully, word by word without being butt hurt, you should be able to understand my point.

Thank you for confirming that any and all downvotes were caused by emotional misreading of the OP and poor reading comprehension.

“if men stay being afraid of “courts” and use it as a reason to not marry & have children, I dont want you bitching 30 years from now when Whites are a minority, or when every foreigner has taken your women.”

So you’re just another tradcon, telling men to “man up” and accept a horrible marriage deal despite the insane divorce laws. Things are working out pretty well for Jeff Bezos with his marriage huh? Good to know where you’re coming from.

Women are the ones who overwhelmingly pressure men into marriage. Women initiate 2/3 of all divorce. Women receive more than 80% of alimony and child support awards.

How are you helping to “reverse the damage done”? By encouraging men to continue to enter into an insane arrangement? Pat yourself on the back, Mr. Horrible Reading Comprehension.

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I know you didn’t say anything anything about being “good” or bad”, obviously. YOU don’t see it that way, but if we were to go back to the made-up scenario, again, if “eric” thought about “self-persevering” as a reason to not take the girl seriously, then for the girl, “eric” would be “bad” because HE doesn’t want a LTR leading to marriage. You have to step in another person’s shoes to see this, which you obviously lack.

Does it make it more “right” if a man’s reason to not pro-create is because of being afraid of the courts and self-persevering? On the positive side, you are not indulging in this degenerate culture. Great. But negatively, you are not pro-creating and passing on your genes. On the grand scheme of things, you have failed. Even if “you’re not feeding your devil” by just endlessly sleeping around with women for pure hedonistic reason but instead, just choose to not get married because you’re afraid of the system, you as a man, have failed to positively impact your life & your surrounding. Congratulations, you’ve fell for the j00 trap of just quitting all together.

This has nothing to do with labels. You can label me a “tradcon” or whatever label you read on 4chan or reddit in order for you to attack me easier, but this is the reality. Again, you fail to understand that your fear of getting into a marriage is by design. If you actually pay attention to the direction Roosh has taken, as well as others in the dissident right, you would have realized this.

Men do have to step up. Have you seen how many soy-boys there are? How many male role models are there? 0. How many “men” do you actually see out during the day? Personally i dont see many. This is not to say women can just sit there & be sluts. They TOO, have to step up & realize that they have been duped by the culture, which is why Roosh wrote this book.

At the end of the day, if you believe in only 2 Sexes, Male & female, then you must believe that Males are the stronger sex. You must also believe that we are smarter. With those two things in mind, eventually, it is up to us to enforce rules & change the environment around us, at least as much as we personally can. Man has brought the nature around him to his will…this is how it’s always played out in History. Unless you’re one of these “equality” fagg0ts & actually think women will just on a dime, stop being sluts & whores after this pandoras box of degeneracy has opened. If you think this, then you are hopeless. Just the truth.

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You are arguing a point I never made, and are therefore essentially arguing with yourself. Not only have you completely failed to read and understand my comment, you’re also repeating yourself.

I’m forced to assume that you’re either a non-native English speaker or mentally challenged. Whatever the case, your reading comprehension is not at the level it needs to be in order to have nuanced discussions on the internet in English. It is highly unlikely you will say anything useful or interesting for the rest of this exchange.

“But negatively, you are not pro-creating and passing on your genes. On the grand scheme of things, you have failed.”

If this is your standard for what is a successful man, then by your logic, a man who impregnates and abandons 100 women, creating 100 single mothers is an incredible success. He has passed on his genes much more successfully than someone like Sir Isaac Newton, who in your eyes must be an abject failure at life even though he revolutionized science.

If I want to maximize my genes, then I should be pumping and dumping as many women as possible without a condom and then disappearing to another country so nobody can sue me for child support.

Your argument is inconsistent and self-defeating.

“This has nothing to do with labels. You can label me a “tradcon” or whatever label”

Interesting. So when I correctly identify that you’re tradcon cuckservative spouting the same propaganda as PragerU, then you say “it’s not about labels.” And yet you’re very quick to apply your own labels like “blackpill fuckface” and “equality faggot.” Way to contradict yourself again.

You argue like an emotional feminist woman.

“Men do have to step up. Have you seen how many soy-boys there are?”

I am a libertarian and believe people should be able to have freedom and self-determination to make choices for themselves, so long as it doesn’t harm anyone else. You apparently believe men have a duty to marry hos in an insane legal environment. You do you, fam.

“At the end of the day, if you believe in only 2 Sexes, Male & female, then you must believe that Males are the stronger sex. You must also believe that we are smarter.”

Here you are making irrelevant statements that no one disagrees with, and that no one is disputing. Who are you arguing with? This again forces me to conclude that your reading comprehension needs serious work.

“If you think this, then you are hopeless. Just the truth.”

So you typed a whole paragraph describing a set of beliefs that “If I think this” then I’m hopeless? Obviously I don’t believe that.

Why you don’t you actually read what I wrote and respond to that, instead of speculating about what I might believe and then concluding that if I believed that, then I’d be wrong? Again, more evidence of your poor reading comprehension and that you argue like an over-emotional woman on her period.

Please work on that. Good luck and Godspeed.

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I was going to give you a serious response, since you are making your own false conclusion of what I’m saying (i never said marry a slut, as a matter of fact, I explicitly stated that women “cannot sit there and be sluts/whores” because I knew you were going to draw to that conclusion if I didn’t explicitly stated that, but you did anyway in your emotional rage). However, I read your diarrhea and stumbled upon something that gives your nearsighted views away.

“I am a libertarian”

At this point, you being a libertarian explains why your room temperature IQ is hindering you from seeing the bigger picture. It’s no use talking to someone who has no issue with 5 y.os turning into drag queens, gays molesting these drag queens, there being 45 genders or there being feminist/soy boys, because hey “i belong to a party that lets you do butt stuff and subvert a culture, as long as the government doesnt intrude on my rights”

*sigh* this explains your MGTOW attitude too. You’re most likely overweight & wear a fedora too… fuck man, now i just feel bad for you. You most likely have assburgers too.

Sorry to hear about your autism, “fam”. Please work on your retarded, autistic, failed libertardian ideology. I hope someday, you wake up from your libertardian retardation, & find a decent woman. Good luck and Goodspeed.

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You seem extremely confused/uneducated about what Libertarianism is, which again doesn’t surprise me. Believing in individual freedom/autonomy (E.g. free speech, right to bear arms, etc.) combined with minimized government equates to having a “room temperature” IQ? If that’s the case I shudder to contemplate what the temperature of your IQ must be.

Consider opening up an introductory logic textbook and going back to high school for a few years, fam.

“someone who has no issue with 5 y.os turning into drag queens, gays molesting these drag queens.”

Poor reading comprehension again. Libertarians believe people are individually free only so far as it doesn’t cause HARM to others. Obviously child molestation is extremely harmful and a criminal offence. I’m not surprised you didn’t know that, since you are, after all a moron who reads at a 5th grade level.

“You’re most likely overweight & wear a fedora too… fuck man, now i just feel bad for you. You most likely have assburgers too.”

If you actually had a legitimate counter-argument, why wouldn’t you simply say that, instead of fantasizing that I’m an overweight fedora wearer with autism, and attribute these imaginary qualities to me? Could it be because you actually have no argument, and must resort to your mental hate-fantasies instead? Must feel really good for you, lol. Let the butt hurt flow through you, friend.

You see all I’ve done is comment on things I can actually observe about you – namely your poor reading comprehension and lack of ability to express ideas in a coherent way. The things you’ve assumed on the other hand, actually speak volumes about you (look up “projection”). You and overly-emotional feminists have more in common than you like to think.

P.S. Thanks for the well wishes. Roosh called and he wanted me to let you know he can literally feel your nose in his butt. He wanted me to convey to you that he’s a big boy and doesn’t need you to white knight for him. Thanks though. Keep on your quest to “reverse the damage being done to America” despite only reading at a down syndrome level. Whatever that means to you. Godspeed.

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“Have you seen how many soy-boys there are?”

Not as many as you think.

“How many male role models are there?”

Really depends how you define “role models”.

“How many “men” do you actually see out during the day?”

A shit ton. At the clubs, too. We all be mackin’, dogg.

“At the end of the day, if you believe in only 2 Sexes, Male & female, then you must believe that Males are the stronger sex.”

No, men and women are strong in their own ways.

“You must also believe that we are smarter”

You are not that smart.

“Man has brought the nature around him to his will…this is how it’s always played out in History. Unless you’re one of these “equality” fagg0ts…”

Sir, how old are you?

“stop being sluts & whores after this pandoras box of degeneracy has opened.”

With its origins being the white man. Listen, the manospherists are all about “pumping and dumping” without committing to marriage and kids. That is the cold, hard truth. And your support of them is contributing to “our decline”.

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“Women are the ones who overwhelmingly pressure men into marriage.”

LOL, no. Some men and women “pressure” each other.

“Women initiate 2/3 of all divorce.”

That’s what you’ve been told.

“Women receive more than 80% of alimony and child support awards.”

In 5% of the cases where divorces do not end up in court. Otherwise, 95% are settled by the two parties involved.

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“I hate what the West has become as much as the next person…”

Except most white men in America do not refer to their society as “the West”, it is simply remarked as “America”.

“I truly hate that we were unfortunate enough to live in an era of a dying empire”

Again, most white men do not refer to the United States as an “empire”, nor view it as “dying”.

“Men need to step up, find a decent woman & not be afraid of the courts.”

Men have been stepping up and finding decent women. The problem is that there a number of manosspherists who use “muh decline of the West” and “muh decline of the female species” as reasons not to marry and sire offspring.

“Some of us are trying to reverse the damage done to America.”

What “damage” are you referring to?

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“you’re asking women to essentially override thousands of years of evolution which makes women hypergamous by nature. Women naturally seek casual sex with exciting high status men.”

Actually, men and women in the 20th century have been seeking casual sex, in some cases with higher status people. It is an evolutionary and social phenomenon.

“It’s why they dislike it when men try to “solve their problems” with logic, and prefer venting to someone who will just agree with everything they already believe.”

Similar to when men try to rationalize their own conduct when they know they being illogical.

“That said, this is good advice to pass on to daughters or women in your family that you care about.”

Actually, the good advice is for men and women to refrain from submitting their urges.

“I have to disagree with this. A man who is “not ready to provide or protect” is often acting out of self-preservation and not wanting to get fucked over by divorce laws and family courts.”

Not necessarily. A man could be emotionally immature to handle a committed relationship. Moreover, 95% of divorces are settled out of court, with both sides compromising.

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There exists an inner and outer self. The outer self focuses on what you want while the inner self is focuses on what you need. Happiness is what you NEED but the outer self says you get it by obtaining wants. It is clever marketing that has been bombarding humans for ever. I have found happiness comes from the inner self via contentment.

The constant strife trying to “better” yourself is a conscript for misery. More money, hotter women, faster cars. beating the neighbors by the old saying of keeping up with the Jones is all put there to bury your inner self and not allow happiness for the purpose of buying things you don’t want to impress people you don’t like with money you don’t have.

Marketing 101 especially against women is the impulse buy. Convincing a person that the next new trinket is a NEED instead of a want. The same holds true in sexual desires. The NEED of family and safety and happiness is over shadowed by the want of excitement, lust, pleasures.

The inner self is hard to bring forward and push the constant bombardment of the outer self into the rearward as the outer is all about thinking. Thinking about the office, the business, the knocking engine block in the car, the wife, kids, parents, sick dog. it is endless.

The inner self hides in darkness and there is where you can find it. It is very difficult but it is there and to bring it forward you must stop thinking. Completely.. STOP thinking for just a while.. close you eyes focus on the darkness and rid your mind of all thoughts..

Happiness awaits.

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Well said.

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Being a newly devout Muslim having spent years chasing girls, getting laid and finally asking for guidance after developing a heart that slowly hardened. I can only say with certainty that based on the teachings in the Holy Qur’an, I really have no other choice left in terms of dating than to give up on it and modern society completely and potentially seeking refuge in a small quiet place away from it all.

Everywhere I look, there are sins being committed. People hurting each other, be it through cheating, racism, murder, adultery, and sex with no ramifications of the other person’s emotions. And I’ve come to realize the cause of my downturn and depression, which could have lead me to potential suicide… And it’s mainly to do with women.

As much as I love them, I can’t help but accept the fact that as a human species, I will never find one who will truly make me happy. We were made sinful as a means to turn to God. And in a modern Godless world, the prospect of committing to one in a loving marriage with kids and a family has slowly come to pass… I simply will not find it in this world.

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Bro I pretty much experienced that too in terms of this world being full of sin, and how it effected me in chasing all the wrong things- and then feeling like shit afterwards.

At the least you can find like minded people to connect with, and although it is now a minority, there are some Muslim girls that feel exactly like that^. Might have to move tho lol. If you have faith, something good will come out of it.

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I’m proud of you Roosh. I knew you’d get here one day. I’m about 15 years ahead of you and my day was a much easier period to pick up and find decent women. You have been through the wringer and now have the aptitude to teach not only men, but women in the art of living the good life God intended for man and woman. I wish you nothing but success as I have been walking this road over the past 5 years. I still believe in men marrying and building a legacy through family. I have been teaching men how to satisfy a wife (25 years of marriage with 3 grown children) and began preaching to women in the past 2 years. Men and women are thirsting for ancient knowledge. Thank you for what you do.

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That’s great to hear, and glad you were able to accomplish it, but this vision for today’s generation is far more difficult, if not almost impossible to accomplish with today’s society and laws.

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Of course it’s difficult. We were born into possibly the hardest generation. This is our great Eternal Spiritual War.

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But how a women not be attracted to most handsome smooth guy in the bar, his name is Christian Grey and he maker her panties wet in no time.

Its simply impossible for her to resist temptation, forget about feminism, its hardwired. Even back in old days Chads and Christians were always in demand and women were cheating on their boring hubbies just to get a taste of high value dick.

A few years ago there was an article about Saudis expelling 3 handsome men because they are too good looking and good muslim women might be tempted.

But we have been told that men are visual creatures and women are emotional, it think this is deliberately done to make women appear more virtuous, in reality even most conservative girl will have hard time resisting superior genes of some random Chad or Jeremy Meeks

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The Jeremy meeks part killed it,most of the time women cheat with another “non chad”,the chad thundercock that bangs a whole neighbourhood of married women is just an incel strawman fantasy.

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So, basically, women should only go with beta chumps.

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Basically. While it’s not that difficult for men to make girls laugh and appear as high status or bad boys, some clothes, the right car, douchebag tattoos, pics taken in exotic destination, or photoshopped.

I never got the high status stuff. All naturals i know are broke nobodies, same for bad boys, real ones who went to jail can hardly find regular jobs because too much mercurial and won’t spend 1000 bucks in trendy outfits.

Unless they’re drug dealers, yet those i met prefered to spend their days playing WoW, not impress the ladies, and had GF’s they provided for.
Can trade drug for pussy anytime, though, they don’t need to chase.
Best of both world perhaps.

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or go with the slayer and accept being cheated on

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https://www.clubofrome.org/project/the-club-of-rome-climate-emergency-plan/ Pay attention to point 9. You need to study Malthus and what the effect of his theories meant for the poor. It´s no coincidence the elite adopt them. All you say is true. But you will probably not convince woman this way. Woman are convinced by social pressure. They are followers. You would just need to make soap operas traditional. Being traditional would have to be cool. Even though woman are envy of man. And therefore whoever sells them this poison pill will be followed.

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Powerful piece by Roosh, and valuable advice for Western women who do not want the Slut lifestyle, but don’t know where to look for guidance.

Too many times, even on this site, I see men who have been burned and jaded by the Sluts write off all Western women. Their negative experiences manifest in the most basic forms of misogyny. They do themselves and the good women out there a huge disservice.

The truth is that, yes, many women grow up enslaved and brainwashed by the System. But there is also a contingent, number unknown, who do not want to follow the lifestyle, but have no major role models in mainstream society. Where could they turn? Rihanna, Britney, Nicki, InstaSluts, bluehaired feminists, Ellen Degeneres, hardened Democrat women, etc…

All of the major role model Institutions reinforce some flavor of dysfunction. Don’t wanna be a club Slut? Be a kink furry, spout off about your communist occultism and wear a tail. Be gender neutral and extremely confused. Be a hardened leftist b*tch who openly hates men. Or you can be a milquetoast Republican softie, afraid to take a stand and offend anyone.

This is by design. They take over all Institutions first.

You guys should have compassion for women out there – many of them are terribly used in the promoted lifestyles. Yes, they do it for narcissistic or ignorant purposes, but many end up incredibly damaged, jaded, and hurt.

Help Roosh lead the way to a Revival of traditional Femininity. My hunch is there’s a lot of truth-seeking Western women simply looking for a path to walk down.

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I think this is futile Roosh you are only going to bring in the same women that the men’s rights pulled in, i.e. “I really enjoy and believe in what you say Roosh but my baby daddy, ex, husband, bf is garbage how can fix I this garbage man? And then spend the rest of the time talking shit about their current relationship status happens every time.

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Goodness is futility… said the mouth of Satan.

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Useless spectator tells man trying to fight the Machine to stop.

His cowardice is sickening.

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Many women already do this when they hit the wall and have little to no other options as has already been stated. They can’t help it, its simply biology. Frittering away your most fertile years on excitement is literally and figuratively a no brainier if you’re an attractive woman.

As a man there is only a few options:

1. Best case scenario is not desire or have any kids. Probably rules out most men.

2. Have ONS, FWB, mini relationships with very attractive women. After you’re tired of this lifestyle settle with a post wall woman that is still reasonably attractive, but doesn’t want to get married or is already divorced and/or had her kids.

3. Just like number two, but you realize that you will never get tired of new women. You slowly convert previously mentioned #2 woman to accept an open a relationship. Also probably rules out most men because they don’t want to be “cucks.”

4. Try to make a traditional monogamous work, but accept that women are women, and being emotionally and financially prepared for when you eventually end up divorced.

Given that most men cannot override their natural instincts to procreate, provide, and protect, all that is left is misery if any man doesn’t realize his very limited options. Women as serial monogamists have acted, and will continue to act in a way that gets men to conform to their gender roles until they get bored and move on to next guy.

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“Many women already do this when they hit the wall…’

The reality is that men and women hit that wall with equal ferocity.

“Frittering away your most fertile years on excitement is literally and figuratively a no brainier if you’re an attractive woman.”

You mean if you are an attractive man or woman and lack self-control.

Of course, as a man, we have many options. The best scenario is for men to curb their natural instincts to have sex with everything that moves and commit yourself to a one-woman relationship with the specific purpose of having children. That is the essence of self-discipline. Try it sometime rather than be a degenerate.

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well boring bobby may be able to provide but can he protect?…put him in boxing

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Women can simply listen to threir “devil” from ages 15 to 34 and then start listening to their “angel” and marry Bobby.

In the sex game, women always win.

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A woman who takes this advice would make “boring Bobby” miserable.

What you’re looking for is not “exciting” vs. “boring”, you’re looking for compatibility. One woman’s “boring” can be another woman’s “exciting”, if there’s compatibility.

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I sort of did follow your advice from this article. And you know what, Roosh, it was a huge mistake. I was really unhappy and unfulfilled in that relationship and I ultimately made him unhappy (and heartbroken) too. It doesn’t work like that, you can’t force yourself to be attracted to someone, you can’t force yourself to feel affection or attachment or any of these things. Noone tells guys to marry obese unattractive girls because “at least you will have sex and she won’t cheat on you”. Even though it does seem somewhat logical, doesn’t it?

Anyway, I’m not saying it only makes sense for women to marry Erics or live single (which in some cases is a better option, actually. Now that I remember how I had to force myself to have sex with him, and it wasn’t just not pleasant, it was literally painful… I’d really rather die all alone). It’s absolutely possible to find a right guy who is not a promiscuous Casanova, yet has at least something that I find attractive. Or it would work if we had something in common, shared a passion, ambitions. But getting into a relationship with a guy just because he is there and he seems ok… Nope. Horrible idea.

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A part of me sometimes thinks women can’t give men advice on what women want and vice versa. Didn’t PUAs complain that their mothers, sisters and female friends lied to them by saying, “just be yourself”? They state they had to learn game to get girls. If that’s so, could it be that guys are unconsciously lying about what they want.

I’m sure a guy would be happy to have a hot wife who gives him space and does his laundry, cooking, and cleaning but would she be happy married to an ugly weird guy that she has to do everything for like she’s his mom. I’ve read married redpill reddit, I respect those men, they were skinny fat guys who had wives who wouldn’t sleep with them. They went to the gym, lost the weight, got muscles and a better wardrobe and learned to be real men. I’m sorry but you can’t just bring your money to the table. A guy has to look just as good as me, slightly better than me, or a little bit below me.

It sounds like Roosh is describing a girl from the 1950s. There is nothing wrong with that but then these guys need to be like men from the 1950s. 1950s men were more rural back then so lots of farmboys, soldiers, and guys who could fix cars or were handy, and the women still got to look nice, be housewives, and play bridge. No decent looking woman with standards wants a poorly dressed fat guy just because he has a house and makes 100K, nor does she want a hot guy who lives in his mom’s basement. Also, what kind of son would a beta like this raise?

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My takeaway from this excerpt was that you should give the less exciting men a CHANCE. Not that you should be with or marry someone strictly on the basis of their ability to provide, or just the fact that they’re “there,” despite a complete lack of attraction and chemistry. If there’s really NOTHING to go on after giving it a reasonable amount of time, I don’t suspect anyone would recommend that you go for the relationship (because YOU are bound to leave the relationship, as you did).

I wasn’t immediate attracted to ANY of the men I’ve been with. I’ve always avoided the men that all the other girls were drooling over. I’ve also avoided the obese mouth-breathers and neckbeards. There is a middle ground: perfectly acceptable guys who just aren’t polished on the surface, so to speak. My fiancé took a few weeks of literally sharing the same house before I warmed up to him, and he didn’t make any moves until after that. Turns out he’s pretty amazing. 😳

In other words, I don’t think you actually followed this advice at all. I think you should read the whole book.

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So “Lady” basically is a book which is supposed to help “good” beta providers (irrespective of age), to get a woman, by teaching modern women (irrespective of character), to somehow “value” (or reconsider) them for sex, eventual pair bonding and reproduction. Though the premise and the intent of the book may be “noble”, if “Lady” does “succeed”, its paradoxically gonna counter a lot of game tips you’ve written for men in Game (2018) which actually is a good book for someone who is a dating beginner and trying to get laid/find relationships in the current global dating environmentb using modern game tips to utilise it. And if that change happens, you’re soon gonna have to write another book for men with updated game again. Hegelian dialectic?

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Roosh, it feels like you’re purposely leaving out the full scope of the concept you’re trying to lay out. All you’re describing is alpha f*cks – beta bux. Women aren’t craving just an emotional high. It just so happens that the man who they find attractive is biologically the one with the superior genes. Women want the guy who is pre selected, dominant, doesn’t need them, and they also want the guy who can provide and protect. Women don’t need these two to be in the same man. If you’re a protector and provider her evolutionary calling will try to keep you in that zone to secure resources. If you’re an alpha what she craves most is dick and alpha cum. Just the way it is. Being the perfect alpha with beta qualities is a waste of time as if you are, there’s almost nothing a woman can do to earn that.

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this is ridiculous, why should a woman settle for a boring guy who doesnt give her chemistry! So she can cheat on him the rest of his life ??
that is absurd. one can find somebody who gives you butterflies and also commits to you. its happened to me many times

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I have been pursued only for casual sex by a lot of ‘boring bobbys’ thinking that they were a safer bet. Of course this was back when I was in my 20s and single. I’m so glad I won’t ever have to look for a man again. Even if something were to happen to my husband I am too old to date.

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Why are you giving anything to the enemy? The very type of woman you describe here deserves scorn, contempt, and isolation. Perhaps you blieve that the market for your old PUA product is declining, and are now trying to extract funds from the swamp of the human race, the feminist d female. In the time of extreme danger to men, of Kavanaugh hearings and and Gillette ads, this is nothing less than treason against men.

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Ha🤣! I love it!
Roosh is writing a “bang” book for betas.
I see a return to a Dickensian time on the horizon. Cad’s will be thoroughly vetted and relegated to the netheregions.
Everything comes full circle.

Like the MCU, everything has it’s eventual end.

“Lady” has solid advice.

“Look upon my works, ye mighty,
and despair”

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Must say, you are getting better with years. Maybe not agreeing 100% with this, but at least I see some good intention here.

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It is simple.

Women are hard-wired to have sex and carry the child of the alpha male.

Same as with chimps, or lions. The best lion or chimp gets all the females — and creates the BEST children.

Thus, the next generation carries the genes of the best male.

This is how Mother Nature intended, and She doesn’t care about your feelings, she only cares that the next generation of children are healthy and strong.

Women are hard-wired to be a harem to the alpha male.

If we remove all the morality/religion/societal norms — this is the natural instinct of the woman — to fuck the best male, even if she is part of a harem.

This is the best thing for the next generation of children. They will be healthy, they will have no disease, no baldness, no degenerate traits.

So, no, it’s not the devil telling you to fuck the alpha male. It’s Mother Nature.

Mother Nature does not care if you are “cared for and protected”. It is not about you — it is about the next generation.

She doesn’t care about the beta males who don’t have women. It’s not about them and their selfish feelings being hurt. It is about what is best for the future generations of children.

Mother nature cares about the future of the species… and if we followed her WISE guidance, within 2 or 3 generations there would be no baldness or degeneracy, a lot of diseases would disappear.

If we had no societal norms… the best man will fuck all the girls and give them all the children.

Thankfully, instinctively all women know this and they do it. Sorry for all the betas who feel sad that women fuck Chad.

And Chad is hardwired to fuck Stacy …. but he is also hardwired to fuck all the ugly women… pump and dump… give them a baby and then dump them. Mission accomplished, anyway.
The next generation of kids carry his genes.

All this is in Mother Nature’s plan…. and it’s not the devil tempting the women, or the devil tempting Chad.

It is the best plan there is, it is the best for the health of the children, it is the best so the next generation is powerful and healthy.

Do you see a degenerate lion? Or a degenerate chimp? No. Because only the alpha male gets to fuck all the females and to create all the children.

In a few generations, all the degenerate traits get cleared out from the gene pool.

I think Roosh got all of this upside down. It is not the devilish side telling you to do these things.
It is the wisdom of mother nature.

You see, folks, it is not about your personal selfish feelings, or your personal comfort, or personal egomania.
You don’t matter that much. The species matters more than the individual.

Because we live in a culture where the individual matters more than the species, and the self-centeredness of the individual has become sacred

The consequence of all this is that our gene pool is becoming more and more degenerate, with more diseases and more weaknesses….

We live in an insane world where handicapped and degenerate people are celebrated…. and where the personal ego, and personal feelings and self-importance are considered sacred and of utmost importance.

I am personally convinced that the natural way to be for human beings is — all the women have to fuck the best alpha males

And then they have to raise the kids together, as a surority.

Kind of like lionesses do… they form a group of sisters, and raise their kids together, and they fuck the strongest lion.

And they shun the beta lions.

This is wisdom.

But people are so engrossed in their selfish “me, me, me, me, me….”

And I say all this as a beta male. I am bald, I wear glasses.
I can be objective…

No, I don’t want my son to be bald and to wear glasses. I don’t want that shit for him. I want him to be healthy and strong.

Sorry guys, Mother Nature is wise. She is tough on the individual and does not give a fuck about an individual’s feelings….. and She does what is best for the species.

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“I say this as a beta male”,nice LARPing.

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Oh, I get it–we’re switching to “Provide and Protect” game. Show her you make dough, and are willing to spend it on her. Buy her dinner, maybe more than once. (If necessary.)

And THEN you get the bang. Maybe she becomes a plate (but she’ll THINK she’s more).

Sure hope the chicks buy it–AND your new book.

Here’s an idea–“Hand Them a Copy of ‘Lady’ on the First Date” Game. Whaddya think, guys? 😉