I’m Ready To Man Up

I’ve been doing a lot of thinking lately. I’m still here in Poland, pretending to be Peter Pan, having purely sexual relationships in a life void of responsibility where no one counts on me and no one expects anything of me. There is no reason to wake up before noon. I spend my days writing, reading, drinking, and chasing pussy. I have so much free time that I decided to learn Polish, one of the hardest languages in the world, just for the hell of it. I feel that there should be something more to life, even if it means taking on what may initially seem like a burden.

I’m convinced that the solution is to grow up and do what society expects of me, to be a man as defined by my middle-class peers.

I will man up and fly to Washington DC. I will fix my resume, make up some amazing bullshit for the four-year gap in professional employment, and become a microbiologist again. Hopefully I won’t have a mean boss, and hopefully the HR gals like me enough so I don’t get the axe in the first round of corporate restructuring.

Once stably employed, I will man up by looking for a modest condominium in the suburbs, taking on a mortgage that is not too crushing. The mortgage will give me a respectability that my self-published fuck guides never could. Hopefully the value of my condo doesn’t decline, the condo association nazis don’t complain about my music, and no major repairs will be needed that force me to eat ramen for an extended period of time.

To get around in the suburbs, I will man up by purchasing an environmentally friendly automobile, preferably a Toyota Prius. I will finance it. I will have to budget carefully since gas, insurance, and maintenance adds up. Hopefully I don’t get into a catastrophic accident.

I will man up and enroll in a part-time graduate program by borrowing the tuition (I can get my dad to co-sign the loan since he likes it when I go to school). If I really move my ass, I can have a fresh degree in four years, which will really impress my boss and set me up for a 4.5% annual raise instead of the usual 3%. My debt load should now keep me quite busy and anxious for the next 30 years.

I will man up and find a wife on eHarmony. She’ll be my age, a handsome woman tired of being pumped and dumped, with a masculine sensibility that South American and Eastern European women don’t have. She will drastically shorten her hair six months after the wedding, and in spite of my disapproval, she will gain one pound a month until finally exploding like a whale for our first of two kids. She’ll never make the effort to lose the pregnancy weight, no matter how many subtle gym membership gifts I get her for Valentines Day, Mothers Day, her birthday, and Christmas. She will lose interest in having sex with me. The most humiliating moment of my life will be when she tells me to pump her hand while she reads a woman’s magazine. I will feel unattractive and unloved.

Once the kids are in middle school, my wife will initiate divorce proceedings because “the feeling” is no longer there. The feeling was no longer there for me either, but I was willing to make it work for our children. Nonetheless, I will man up and let her take the property, the cars, and the kids. I will pay her steep child support payments that leave me on the edge of poverty. My kids will be brainwashed against me, and hate me for the rest of their lives. I’ll hate them too, but if I stop paying child support I will be sent to prison. With little fatherly influence in their lives, my son will become a little bitch and my daughter a slut who loses her virginity at the age of 14.

I will not give up on life. I will work even harder and make wise investments until my kids are 18 and the burden of child support payments are lifted. Once eligible for social security at the age of 67, I will take my modest nest egg to a modern country with a cheap standard of living, maybe Poland. Once there, no one will count on me and no one will expect anything of me. There will no reason to wake up before noon. I’ll spend my days writing, reading, drinking, and purchasing pussy. I will have so much free time that I’ll decide to learn Polish, one of the hardest languages in the world, just for the hell of it. Yes, I’m ready to man up.[culturewar]


  1. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 9:27 am

    You know… some of your posts are really depressing for those of us that work 9 – 6 everyday…

    1. Joseph Dickerson March 15, 2015 at 10:50 am

      I think its great, he is poking fun at all clowns who empower a system that screws over men.

    2. tickletik March 3, 2017 at 4:01 am

      the purpose of depression is to cease giving energy to endeavors which your mind tells you are of low potential return.

    3. R Sagan August 8, 2017 at 3:36 am

      I’m really glad that Poland is no longer allowing Middle Eastern or African immigrants. Roosh is a prime example of Middle Eastern low IQ and obsession with sex.

  2. Gentlemanly posturing October 5, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Awesome article, i love the writing style

  3. Morgan October 5, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Fantastic. You hit the nail!

  4. Marco October 5, 2011 at 9:36 am

    That was actually pretty nice. Got an inch of Bukowskiesque feel to it.

  5. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 9:38 am

    This was good…so true in so many ways, except for the fact the guy will often jump back into another relationship with an American woman, get taken to the cleaners again and have no money to retire to a place such as Poland.

  6. Ruby October 5, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Not all of us have the ability to write e-books that sell well. For some of us being able to find a stable job in the first place is hard enough and we don’t have the luxury to brag about not having to work.

    1. Kevin Shepherd October 9, 2017 at 12:18 pm

      I think these forums are about ensuring men make informed choices,most divorcees usually wonder what happened?its only fair we make choices for which we can own the consequences not be traumatized by it.

  7. Gmac October 5, 2011 at 9:56 am

    It’s about time. I was wondering when you were going to come to your senses… You can’t live the dream forever!

  8. Y October 5, 2011 at 10:00 am

    @Anonymous and @Ruby

    Why not become inspired by Roosh?

  9. The Truth October 5, 2011 at 10:10 am

    There is a middle way.

  10. oldskool October 5, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Priceless! This article is a true gem!

  11. TB October 5, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Phew, for a second there after first reading I thought you were serious about moving back to DC. Great article !!! Stay the course, you are an inspiration for us all.

  12. DiamondEyes October 5, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Hahahah! Bloody brilliant!
    I like this spin on that old fable about the Native and the Gringo.

    While some may deride your description of typical American life as being exaggerated or cynical, I would say that a man who lives the life you described is almost getting off easy compared to what happens to a lot of American men.

    And you are right – why have kids, when it’s more than likely that the authority to raise them as you see fit will be forcibly taken from you by power of the state, as soon as the bitch needs to go find herself. We’ve all seen the stats about children of single mothers.

    Those complaining that you are somehow “stuck” in your boring 9 to 5 lives need to get a grip. There is nothing that you can’t walk away from. If you are addicted to your iphones, lattes, titles, phony friends, and hip street addresses, then sure, you are “stuck” – in a bed of your own making.

    The first thing is to not take on debt. If you have it, pay it all off. From there, anything is possible. Just accept the idea of getting satisfaction from real life, rather than from purchasing things.

    If you have crushing debt, fukkit, walk away from it. That’s what Donald Trump does every time he makes a bad business bet. If the Wall Streeters can bail out on billions owed, why should you feel bad about leaving a few credit card companies hanging?

    Wake up and live, fellas, the time grows very short!

  13. ace October 5, 2011 at 10:38 am

    At one point in the awful creature feature The Creeping Terror, the titular monster confronts a couple who is necking in the park. The thing is such a poorly done, slow moving puppet that the poor actress who is to be ‘devoured’ basically has to jump into its mouth.

    Whenever I hear about manning up, I imagine the woman is the creeping terror: a lumbering beast who demands I jump into her mouth for no other reason than the fact that the script calls for it.

    Realizing that you don’t have to voluntarily submit yourself for digestion is really the best moment of a modern man’s life.

  14. JackBlack October 5, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Roosh — I am making $250K at my corporate job right now but I am the one envious of you.

  15. Luvianka October 5, 2011 at 10:52 am

    We lost you! Another comrade out of the Game circuit.

  16. Falcon October 5, 2011 at 10:55 am

    If you always do what you’ve always done you will only get what you always got.

  17. Ollie October 5, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Inspiring! I am going to man up just like you and jump into a woodchipper, erm, get married, too.

  18. Carmo October 5, 2011 at 11:00 am

    The real tragedy is that the majority of American men will gladly go down the road you just outlined oblivious to the fact that there are many alternatives. However, once down the alternate path you will be shamed for “not manning up” as you expertly observed. I am currently scheduled to be paroled from my corporate American prison in a year. Cant wait to go expat.

  19. Jay Gatsby October 5, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Life is all about choices. The key word there is “choice” – YOU choose – don’t let life choose for you.

    Studies indicate that well over 50% of Americans are unahappy at work. Many of these people are doing well, but they’re doing well at something they don’t enjoy. People get overwhelmed by the decisions they have to make about their jobs, their families, their businesses and their futures. They end up shifting their focus to talents they don’t have and careers that don’t quite fit. Many respond by simply falling into whatever comes down the pike without ever asking themselves some very important questions.

    Have you ever sat down and thought seriously about what you truly love? What you’re good at? What you want to accomplish in life? What are the obstacles stopping you? Most people don’t. They accept what they “should” be doing, rather than take the time to figure out what they want to be doing.

  20. JT October 5, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Excellent post.

    Your writing never ceases to impress.

    Thankfully it seems that the rest of the USA is slowly finally walking up from their comas too.


  21. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Roosh, you’re trying too hard to justify your life. One day you’re going to wake up and realize that you are completely alone, and nobody loves you except your mom and your cat.

  22. The G Manifesto October 5, 2011 at 11:23 am


    Great twist on The Fisherman and The Businessman story.

    Jackblack –

    “Roosh — I am making $250K at my corporate job right now but I am the one envious of you.”

    You should.

    Next you need to figure out is to cake up and travel, like I do.

    Anonymous –

    “Roosh, you’re trying too hard to justify your life. One day you’re going to wake up and realize that you are completely alone, and nobody loves you except your mom and your cat.”


    Who cares?

    – MPM

  23. Marmot October 5, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Hey, it’s not April 1st!!!

  24. Smeq October 5, 2011 at 11:36 am

    We’ve been punked

  25. samseau October 5, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Good life plan. What’s the meaning of life without intense struggle?

  26. Pierce October 5, 2011 at 11:53 am

    When I first started reading Roosh, his blog was all about PUA, tips, and tricks about banging girls. Now, your website is truly an asset for LIFE.

    Do you have any idea how many American men follow this path? I have seen this EXACT parable play out multiple times in my family alone.

    This post is VERY eye opening.

  27. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Dude as soon as I read “Im going to man up” I knew it was fake.We are all going to hell in a hand basket here in the states,so make the best of it there or where ever,Besides you are making more money now without headaches selling books.
    Why would you go back to being a nerdy professional vs. being a jet setter playboy.

  28. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    You just know this country is F’d, when a butt cold, rain soaked, gray and dreary ex Soviet satellite, looks like paradise on earth by comparison.

  29. The Geographer October 5, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Hah. Polish is a pretty easy language if you have decent language ability. Try learning Georgian or Azeri and then get back to us. And don’t quote Robert Lindsay saying it’s one of the hardest in the world.

  30. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Get off your high-horse Roosh. You can be a judgemental son-of-a-gun. This was a useless post for those of us who actually have responsibilities from which we canot walk away. Let’s get back to interesting writing. Come with it.

    1. Dougie Howser May 27, 2015 at 7:26 pm

      You got yourself there with no plan out in case it went bad, it went bad and now you are blaming the truthspeaker.

  31. Levon October 5, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    My dad followed the traditional American man’s role that was outlined here and thanks to him I get to exist.

  32. daygamer October 5, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    love this post. consider becoming a fiction writer, Roosh. board that airplane, but I predict you will miss your former life as soon as you get off that thing… unless you take that sweet Polish 8 or 9 you banged a while ago with you, maybe that´s an option, call it a survival package?

  33. boxer October 5, 2011 at 12:35 pm


    being loved is overrated.

  34. butthexer October 5, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    1 Anonymous
    You know… some of your posts are really depressing for those of us that work 9 – 6 everyday…

    6 Ruby
    Not all of us have the ability to write e-books that sell well. For some of us being able to find a stable job in the first place is hard enough and we don’t have the luxury to brag about not having to work.

    21 Anonymous
    Roosh, you’re trying too hard to justify your life. One day you’re going to wake up and realize that you are completely alone, and nobody loves you except your mom and your cat.

    30 Anonymous
    Get off your high-horse Roosh. You can be a judgemental son-of-a-gun. This was a useless post for those of us who actually have responsibilities from which we canot walk away. Let’s get back to interesting writing. Come with it.

    tell us Roosh, are these the same people?

    hahah.. denial, anger, acceptance

    Not trying to put down the average man here, not a rock star myself, but these guys (or guy) just sound so bitter and pathetic…

  35. The G Manifesto October 5, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    “This was a useless post for those of us who actually have responsibilities from which we canot walk away.”

    Yeah, but it was a great post for those of us who don’t have those responsibilities.

    You can’t please all of the people, all of the time.

    – MPM

  36. greendroppings October 5, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    “Fuck guides” are an ever-green niche, and you’re a talented writer. I don’t think this is a black and white issue though. It’s not about either being a pussy-chaser or having responsibilities. You can take a little from each side until you feel comfortable.

  37. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    @8 – It isn’t that I’m not inspired by Roosh and his writing… I am. Some aspects of this aren’t as simple as just picking up and leaving. Some of us “woke up” too late, and have already accrued a significant amount of student loan debt, which will not go away even if you “walk away” from it.

    The problem is income. Roosh and other bloggers provide value in the form of writing. For those that are terrible at writing, like me, we have to come up with another way of being able to pay for a ticket to Poland, or a hostel, or food.

    You’re right though in saying that a majority of Americans, especially recent graduates, are waking up to the reality that they are no longer entitled to the American Dream.

  38. vb October 5, 2011 at 1:13 pm


  39. Alex October 5, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Roosh, don’t stop rappin’.

  40. nathan October 5, 2011 at 1:28 pm


  41. David October 5, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    you just described my brother in law. I really feel sorry for him marrying my sister….

  42. Andy October 5, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Roosh Great Post! Was it inspired by the Date me DC Blog (Peter Pan syndrome) and the article on CNN yesterday (why men are screwed?) ?

  43. NYCBachelor October 5, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    I’m working ~ 80 hours a week for a measily 50k a year as a Hospital Resident- I pay half of the after tax for an apartment in the crappiest burough of NYC. I get up at 5:30 AM every morning, have hardly any time to chase chicks, and burdoned with 200k in medical school debt, and have a plethora of expectations and duties that I must fulfill- or bad things happen. My life is very stressful and unfulfilling.

    With all that said- at least I’m not married and I don’t owe anyone child support.

    Every day I find myself thinking of how I can transition to your type of lifestyle Roosh…

    ^—- envious

  44. DiamondEyes October 5, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    @ 37
    If I were in your position with a lot of student loan debt, I might still walk away from it. Who cares? The debt won’t go away but what are they going to do about it? You know how many people walked away from $500k mortgages that they were under contract to pay? The only way they can nail you is if you insist on remaining inside the system, using credit for everything, working salaried jobs and buying their overpriced real estate.

    But let’s assume that you will not abandon your debt. Fair enough. There are still ways to implement Roosh’s msg.

    1) Don’t ever have sex without a condom (so you don’t impregnate anyone – and don’t take her word that she’s on the pill)

    2) Never get married. Any woman who demands it as a condition of being with her has ulterior motives involving your provider status.

    3) Never buy a home or condo. You get better deals and greater mobility by renting, in any market, but especially these days.

    4) Do not buy any new toys until your debt is paid. Liquidate useless crap and use the money to pay down debt. Live frugally. Don’t take on a penny of new debt. Just pay it off with every spare dime.

    5) Find a job in another country that takes advantage of the degree you earned.

    6) Start thinking of small business ideas that you would be able to do from anywhere in the world. After you pay off your debt, save money to launch your business.

  45. b-nasty October 5, 2011 at 2:03 pm


    Dude, save up for a few more years (avoid the hookers and blow for a bit), and then do something that interests you. I was making coin in financial software, but I realized that I live so cheaply as a single dude, I was able to quit and pursue other interests.

    Granted I’m not banging Polish whores, but the educated, smart, single guy (helps to be white/Western) has millions of options. It’s probably the best time to be alive for the free man.

  46. BUCK October 5, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    A key to failure and becoming miserable is to please other people. They don’t truly care if you are happy or not. Therefore, don’t even try to please other people at all by doing what they say you should do or what they expect you to do. You do what you desire to do.

  47. Anonyous October 5, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    This is why Roosh’s blog is in my RSS reader. I had a 25 year old try and tell me to man up and marry her. Man up. Man up and hate your life. Man up and get fat in a fucking cubicle because you’re too afraid to say that you care too much about what people think.

  48. Anon October 5, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    “1 Anonymous
    You know… some of your posts are really depressing for those of us that work 9 – 6 everyday…”

    Working 9 to 6 is AWESOME. Plenty of time to get home, eat, shower, and meet up with your fuckbuddies and/or girls you met on Friday & Saturday night. Not to mention the benefits of having a steady income & health insurance.

    “21 Anonymous
    One day you’re going to wake up and realize that you are completely alone, and nobody loves you except your mom and your cat.”

    Most men realize the same thing… when they get served with DIVORCE PAPERS. Bye soulmate, bye kids. Hello alimony, child support, attorneys’ fees, feminist judge, and threat of imprisonment.

    “37 Anonymous
    Some of us “woke up” too late, and have already accrued a significant amount of student loan debt, which will not go away even if you “walk away” from it. The problem is income.”

    If Wall St. can default on their loans, so can you. FUCK IT. What the fuck are you worried about? Your goddamn CREDIT SCORE? Good credit scores are what got you in trouble in the first place — good credit score = loans = debt = worry = SERVITUDE.

    Let them garnish your wages at $20 a week. Fuck ’em. Live your life.

    Game some women. Get them to support YOU. There are plenty of women in this country who willingly hand over their welfare checks or child support checks to men. Find an alternative means to making money, marry rich, whatever.

    If you can’t scrape together money for a plane ticket, you aren’t resourceful enough & probably deserve to rot slowly like every other enslaved dude in this country.

  49. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    Roosh, you’re as much of a slave as the guy with a mortgage and a wife.

    You put pussy on such a high pedestal that you’ve forsaken all other activities, and all other worthwhile pursuits, in order to keep chasing strange pussy.

  50. monkeydick October 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    It’s not about “manning up” (that’s femin-speak), it’s about figuring out a life that you’d hang your hat on. Roosh is ok doing what he’s doing, but in the long run I definitely want to give a family what my family’s given to me. I’d want to raise a kid, give him a good home.

    I think there’s a lot of pleasure to be found there, just like there’s a lot of pleasure to be found railing polish girls. Each his own, I guess.

  51. Anon October 5, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    @NYC Bachelor,

    Keep your eyes on the prize. A U.S. medical license allows you to practice in virtually any country. There are many international temp jobs for U.S. trained docs.

    Or you can work half the year in the U.S., and spend the other half abroad.

    “I’m working ~ 80 hours a week for a measily 50k a year as a Hospital Resident- I pay half of the after tax for an apartment in the crappiest burough of NYC. I get up at 5:30 AM every morning, have hardly any time to chase chicks, and burdoned with 200k in medical school debt, and have a plethora of expectations and duties that I must fulfill- or bad things happen. My life is very stressful and unfulfilling.

    With all that said- at least I’m not married and I don’t owe anyone child support.

    Every day I find myself thinking of how I can transition to your type of lifestyle Roosh…”

  52. James October 5, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    I bought all your books. Which one talks the most about leaving the corporate life behind and moving to poland?

    How do you survive?

    All the best,

  53. MGuy October 5, 2011 at 2:26 pm

    “Granted I’m not banging Polish whores, but the educated, smart, single guy (helps to be white/Western) has millions of options. It’s probably the best time to be alive for the free man.”

    Being white also has its drawbacks.

    Being non-white has it pros.

    In the end, you have to wield the sword that you are given.

  54. Anon October 5, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    “in the long run I definitely want to give a family what my family’s given to me. I’d want to raise a kid, give him a good home.”


    Society has changed. The reason you were given a good home is because you were raised in a patriarchal society that protected mens’ roles & their contributions to their families. That is not guaranteed today. A wife can easily take your kids away, shack up with a rotating cast of junkies, use your child support check to buy drugs & support other men, and there is not a damn thing you could do about it.

    Today, family & children are completely in the hands of women.

  55. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 2:28 pm

    roosh i hope ur being sarcastic cuz youve really reached a lot of ppl with your blog…writing is a worthwhile pursuit so do stop doing it man!

  56. Richie October 5, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Had a big smile on my face whilst reading this. Nice little anecdote. You should consider doing some Roald Dahl style short stories. I love a story with a clever twist.

    19. Have you ever sat down and thought seriously about what you truly love? What you’re good at? What you want to accomplish in life? What are the obstacles stopping you? Most people don’t. They accept what they “should” be doing, rather than take the time to figure out what they want to be doing.

    Like this. I have a similar lifestyle to Roosh in that I can do whatever I want whenever I want and get paid pretty well for it. However I’m pretty lazy at the same time and I know I could push myself harder and I do have and un underlining guilt complex about the whole thing. Like Im not pushing myself to my full potential.
    And I think. But were do I want to be in the future? What do I want to have accomplished in life. What will make me feel like I have had a fulfilled and satisfying life. What are the kind of rewards I can look forward to?
    I know you should live for the moment and that means having fun and not worrying about money etc. But age will get the better of all of us at some point. I guess it’s all about balance but I wonder if I will ever regret not starting that business or sticking with that 8 that was head over in heels in love with me. Life is a gamble and I wish I could feel content 100% of the time.

  57. Jacopo October 5, 2011 at 2:49 pm

    Hey Roosh,

    Just been to Wroclaw in Poland last week, it was amazing.
    Do you live in that city?

  58. MK October 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    Seems everyone thinks a divorce means never seeing your kids and automatic child support. Why not push for 50-50 joint custody and pay little to no child support?

    I still think marriage is a raw deal for men but when one ends it doesn’t have to mean never see your kids and endless alimony. I realize this isn’t what this post is about but it always seems to come up.

  59. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm

    I would have believed this post if you had stopped at fixing up your resume and becoming a microbiologist again.

  60. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 3:00 pm


    Thank you for the constructive feedback. Your right about the debt, I guess at some point I internalized the belief that my credit score defines me as a person.

    Your tips were definitely noted, and many of them I already follow. I’m definitely in the process of trying to find a business I can start that can run without me to use as cash flow. I also read the four hour workweek by Tim Ferriss, but uhh… yeah.

    Anyways, good advice.

  61. 22 October 5, 2011 at 3:05 pm

    So glad im young and reading these blogs now so i dont make a fuck up of my life and go through what was just describe.

  62. chochemonger1 October 5, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    I thought at the beggining, when Roosh said he was “manning up”, that he was going to SE Asia or trying another country nearby, like Russia. I Still hope now that winter is coming Roosh will “man up” and leave Poland. I swear, i will buy any new country Bang Book from wherever he decides to go.

  63. JST October 5, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    American men are already realizing marriage is shit. The latest marriage rate was 44% in 2009 and exponentially declining.

    Moreover, I meet more and more Western men who travel abroad for female companionship and even marriage.

    More men will just quit and withdraw from women altogether.

    We’ll see how women react. I predict whole cities becoming ghettos in the US.

    It will be a beautiful day when the whole feminist nanny government superstructure falls apart because men just don’t work that hard and withdraw from society by the millions. The tax dollars will dry up, the women will turn old and ugly, the country will fall into disarray, and I’ll be happily sipping a martini on an Indonesian beach with my sexy, feminine, beautiful, sweet Japanese girlfriend watching the carnage unfolding in my dying birth country. So what? I’m not patriotic!

    I can’t wait! Now where’s my martini…

  64. Cliff Arroyo October 5, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    A traditional family life is certainly not what everybody wants or needs. The key to happiness is finding a lifestyle that works for you and ignoring what other people think about it. I’ll always have a good word for those who can trod an original and fulfilling path through life.

    What sucks is that those that do want some kind of traditional family life will find it harder and harder to do in western countries like the US. I’ve never wanted seriously wanted the traditional model but I feel for those that do and won’t be able to follow through on it.

    It’s still a viable option in most of the non-Soviet former eastern bloc and some other places but the clock is ticking there too. It’s still possible in some muslim majority cultures but it comes with adopting muslim majority culture which kind of blows.

    And Polish isn’t that hard. There’s a steep (and long) beginning learning curve but after that it really gets a lot easier, especially living in situ. On the scale used by the FSI (which has lots of practice making Americans fluent in foreign languages) it’s ‘moderately’ difficult – harder than Spanish or Portuguese but easier than Arabic or Chinese.

  65. The G Manifesto October 5, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    #49 “Roosh, you’re as much of a slave as the guy with a mortgage and a wife.

    You put pussy on such a high pedestal that you’ve forsaken all other activities, and all other worthwhile pursuits, in order to keep chasing strange pussy.”

    I hope this comment made you feel better about yourself.

    “forsaken all other activities, and all other worthwhile pursuits”

    His blog was worthwhile enough for you to leave a comment on.

    So what does that say about how “worthwhile” your life is?

    – MPM

  66. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    I think that purely from a critical writing standpoint, that this is possibly the best post you’ve written in quite some time. Very curb your enthusiasm-esque the way everything came full circle

  67. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    or continue your current lifestyle, and end up alone like creepy-ass Ross Jefferies, or a diseased forty-year-old alcoholic, still obsessively sleeping with girls you don’t like. It’s win-win!

  68. dragnet October 5, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    Nice post.

    But it isn’t an either/or situation. I work in finance, enjoy my job and have responsibilities that I can’t really walk away from…and at the same time get laid on my terms because of Game, travel a fair amount and have no plans to ever get married (have reseached adoption and surrogacy).

    The key is find what works best for you.

  69. Anonymous October 5, 2011 at 3:22 pm

    “I wish I had a million dollars so I could just do nothing all day.”

    “Hell, you don’t need a million dollars to do nothing. My Cousin Ernie’s broke as hell, and he don’t do shit.”

    — from the film OFFICE SPACE

  70. Yams October 5, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    “Man up” is a phrase every man should never use and any advice that a person gives who uses this term should be ignored as well.

    One lesson that I have learned is that people are inherently selfish at all times and this doesn’t stop when they are giving you advice on how to live your life. They want you to be an altruistic little worker bee that contributes to society at the cost of your happiness. “Manning up” is an indirect way of guilt tripping you into doing what other people want. Don’t fall for it.

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  72. Giovonny October 5, 2011 at 3:35 pm

    The Polish Dream > The American Dream

  73. Bronan the Barbarian! October 5, 2011 at 3:48 pm

    Every man needs to read this post. Fuck “manning up.” It’s the world’s slowest and most painful suicide, and this post shows why. Great work Roosh.

  74. daniel October 5, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Sarcasm is the greatest form of wit. Keep up the good work man.

  75. DiamondEyes October 5, 2011 at 4:06 pm

    Lots of great comments here. One interesting take away:
    The art of living a great life is 90% AVOIDING stupid shit that society tells you to do. In other words, if you just sat and fished all day or whatever (like the brilliant line in #69) you would still be coming out far ahead of the average SWPL schlub.

    By not taking on debt, having kids in this toxic society, or supporting the marital industrial complex, you have made yourself a free man. Take it one step further and control your business/financial life, and you are king shit alpha. You’ve eliminated all the strings that the puppeteer used to make you dance.

    This concept began to dawn on me a long time ago when I would walk by homeless beggars on the street, on the way to work. I would sometimes tell them: “You know what, I may be walking to work dressed nicely but you are far wealthier than I my friend. I cannot afford to give you any change. You see, my net worth is in the negative by tens of thousands due to my student loans and car payment, while you sit here lazily enjoying the day with a positive net worth of several dollars!”

  76. Caligula October 5, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Truly brilliant. This will be sent to friends who are considering getting married.

  77. BOOM October 5, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Roosh is a God.

    He should start his own religion or cult.

  78. Mulata October 5, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    I actually though this post was genuine.

    Roosh you are human like the rest of us, and you know deep down that the most beautiful thing that can happen to us as human, is to fall in love.

    Yes it can have and often has the terrible implications you describe in your post.
    But still, when you meet the right person, time just comes to a stop, and nothing else counts but the present.

  79. Jordan October 5, 2011 at 4:53 pm

    Way to go roosh! Another great post…

  80. Johnny Bravo October 5, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Plagiarism. You stole this schtick from Roissy.

  81. Zorro October 5, 2011 at 6:38 pm


  82. MT October 5, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    I guess somebody read that disgusting CNN op-ed where that D-bag preacher was telling the young generation of males to “man up.” It was such a joke and it was great to see the vast majority of the comments be from guys who know how much of a crock marriage and family is in our “progressive” American society.

    Young men are wiseing up to the marriage sham after spending our childhood watching our fathers, uncles and prominant male figures get taken to town in divorce settlements and basically ostricized by a once (mostly) just legal system. Unless divorce laws and the nanny state feminism changes, you’re going to see more and more young men spurn traditional roles and do their own thing.

    Besides, anyone with a little bit of game in the U.S. who treats girls they really want to be treated can pump and dump like a champ. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

  83. The Glee Manifesto October 5, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Nothing wrong with being a microbiologist.

    And nothing wrong with telling someone to “man up”. It just depends what you mean. You might say that “Bang”, and “Day Bang” are your way of telling your readers to “man up.”

    Anyway, live your own life. For some, that means living in some eastern block hell hole and getting laid as much as poss.

    For others, it means raising a family in the suburbs. As long as it’s your choice, you’re not hurting anyone, and you’re happy with it, who cares what anyone else thinks.

  84. Bortimus October 5, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    I’d go for a career in business. Then you can wear a suit to Starbucks on your lunch breaks and yell at people via cell phone while sitting in the middle of the room so that everyone can hear about how important you are and what an underachieving loser Simpkins is for failing to send your TPS reports to Bev by the deadline.

  85. b-nasty October 5, 2011 at 7:36 pm


    Yeah, love is great, and so is ecstasy, heroin, cocaine, etc. If you can enjoy it a little bit but not put your life on hold for your fix, it’s all good. Allow it to control your future and override rational decisions, and you will end up destroyed.

    Also like a drug, that super-endorphin/dopamine rush from love will fade. It’s not much fun to wake up stone sober realizing you dislike the life you have with your former love.

  86. The Glee Manifesto October 5, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Almost everything–all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure–these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

    Steve Jobs

  87. Peter Phoenix October 5, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Hah, don’t be such a traditionalist Roosh.

    But realize that there is a different kind of happiness you can get from relationships. Notice that Hypnotica and David DeAngelo are married. Ross Jeffries and Paul Janka are in long term relationships.

    Maybe, one day (in your 40’s), once you feel you have played the field to the full extent, you will return to Brazil to find a young virgin bride (who will know nothing of your troubled past),you will have a few kids, and live your days out teaching English, surfing and reading.

  88. Darren October 5, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    The more I see of this ‘man up’ meme, the more I see that the establishment is getting worried.

    Anyway, anyone who says ‘man up’ is trying to screw you, plain and simple.

    The proper response is ‘Why man up, when it is easier to woman down’?

  89. The Impenetrable Indian October 5, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Roosh. I DARE You To Try Game In India.

    Good Luck,
    The Impenetrable Indian

  90. beta_plus October 5, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Not that one shouldn’t try to live modestly, but the answers I’ve heard on how to have an income stream while traveling to places like Eastern Europe, South America, and SE Asia have been less than convincing. If you hope to score chicks, you need to have a roof over your head that isn’t your parents (assuming they are not divorced), food in your stomach, and money to maintain your appearance.

  91. T&A Man October 5, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    A good end game metaphor, I think it is paraphrasing the businessman and fisherman story.

    Businessman: “I work 45 years so in retirement so I can build up my 401k and fish all day in retirement”

    Fisherman: “I just fish all day”

    Now for all those “Some of us have responsibilites”, well the point is, are those responsibilties making you happy? if not, ditch them and become the fisherman.

    The guys I know who have done this, I am from Australia, were Aussie guys who opened a bar in Latvia in the mid to late 90’s. A permanent visa was easy to obtain when starting a business. A business cost them $US 800 to start up.

    A country seeking the influx of ‘style’ of more hip bars, these guys I knew decided to forego affluenza, and settle for owning one of the coolest bars in Riga. There after expesnes profit amounted to $US40 a month, so ‘nothing’ in a rich country.

    But they lived a dream. owning a bar which framed their ideal social setting, pussy walking through the door non-stop, and they lived above the premises.

    Not a bad outcome.

    Roosh, you’ve got bar attendants history don’t you? A bar in Romania, on the Black Sea coast, writing before noon, paying others to tend your bar and scope poon after lunch till closing.

    That’d be a bar worth visiting.

  92. Virgle Kent October 5, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Man this was mad deep and I agree with what the other commenter said that it’s very “Curb your Enthusiasm” like. I’m glad you’ve figured out your own path.

    It’s interesting that you have lived the corporate life and changed it up to travel another path so you have both point of views… many of your haters cant say the same.

  93. moop October 5, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    You’re just like a woman. Completely useless to society in every way except for sex.

  94. JST October 5, 2011 at 11:49 pm


    But he’s at least not just another cog in the machine supporting a declining, feminist superstructure. The more men start thinking and acting like Roosh, the faster the feminists’ superstructure falls.

    He’s doing all of us a favor.

  95. John October 6, 2011 at 1:00 am

    For all the corporate types freaking out, let us not forget that danger & play and crime & federalism are both written by “professional” types with long workdays, yet they manage live pretty well. The key is they have built a game lifestyle around their careers.

    Everyone has their own path to walk. Can you live at home for a few years while you get your muse off the ground? Did you have an entrepreneurial parent growing up so the type of thinking required comes naturally to you? If so, you fit a profile that might be more apt to take risks that come with attempting a location independent business. But if you are pushing 30 and never done anything entrepreneurial, or are taking care of your parents because both of them have lost jobs…Well quitting your job to become a lifestyle blogger and travel the world might not be the most prudent choice. Follow the D & P / C & F model instead.

    Envy is a pointless emotion. Take what is applicable to your situation and use it to the absolute fullest.

  96. Casimirpulaski October 6, 2011 at 1:13 am

    This sounds like the sequel to Compliment & Cuddle.

  97. 3extra October 6, 2011 at 1:20 am

    “Those complaining that you are somehow “stuck” in your boring 9 to 5 lives need to get a grip. There is nothing that you can’t walk away from. If you are addicted to your iphones, lattes, titles, phony friends, and hip street addresses, then sure, you are “stuck” – in a bed of your own making.

    The first thing is to not take on debt. If you have it, pay it all off. From there, anything is possible. Just accept the idea of getting satisfaction from real life, rather than from purchasing things”

    Wise words DiamondEyes.

    Great post Roosh.

  98. K-Man October 6, 2011 at 3:28 am

    Good for Roosh, but unfortunately the world cannot support a population of just international traveling playboys. Someone’s gotta plow the fields, build the houses, extract the oil for your car… you get the idea.
    So if you’ve got a unique skill like Roosh and can make money off it – good for you too. For the rest of us, it’s off to the sugarcane plantation (so to speak).

  99. moop October 6, 2011 at 3:53 am

    @JST, don’t try to make roosh out to be some hero. He’s just a selfish, lazy cunt, a product of the “feminist superstructure” that values instant gratification over hard-earned satisfaction. As 20 year old male, I have no intention of ending up like Roosh. As much as I like his writing, he’s a fucking loser, a deadbeat who hangs around in Poland fucking 7s instead of bringing something of value to the world.

    Which is fine. Do you, I’ll do me. Just stop writing asinine shit that mocks people who have the audacity to value something besides a steady stream of easy pussy. its a horrible abuse of your influence as a blogger.

  100. magnificent224 October 6, 2011 at 6:00 am

    Moop, your going a bit over board, that is the lifestyle of a player, your not a player (that is pretty obvious by your writing) you sond angry, frustrated that you have to get up at six in the mourning to go to your construction job and come back home to the same lady, and before you get some you tell her ”baby I love you” (that is if she decides to give you some that night). So playboy it’s simple, don’t hate the player hate the game…… Get mad at Gloria Stein that was CIA sponsored to destroy man in the western hemisphere and our families.

    Be mad at the courts and the judicial system. My uncle lawyer told him when he was heading to divorce proceedings, ”this is the most outrageous divorce demand I have ever seen in my entire history of practicing divorce law.” My uncle who was working at ford for years, as engineer and manager was living in a room my man, after years of working hard the same way you talk about, bussing his ass after coming here to Canada in the early 70’s. Don’t be angry because someone has decided to leave the matrix, for a while and do there thing. Dose who can do, dose who can’t teach, and you my friend are doing neither. The system loves little sheep’s like you, if you din’t believe in all the big ”dream” they could not rape us with our tax dollars that they turn around and use against up. Please don’t get me wrong, I love money and I am certainly not a communist.

    What I am saying do is that not everyone has the same blueprint on how to get paid and live there life. I refuse to work for people and can’t stand to hear a ”Boss” telling me what to do. Those that make me a loser???? No that makes me a freeman my friend, i will say it again don’t hate the play hate the game, and who has never sinned cast the first stone. In other words do you, and keep the judgment to your own life, focus on ways to better yourself not take shots at someone who lives and thinks outside the conventional cookie cuter box we are told is the epitome of success.

    Keeping it real.

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  102. doesNotMatter October 6, 2011 at 7:54 am

    It’s posts like these that garner the most comments. Not too many comments on the game posts but helluva lot on topics such as these.

    That aside, I have a query. When American people get older, they go to a retirement home and have full time professionals to take care of them right? So my question… What happens if these paid professionals start ill-treating the elderly people? The only way to get back at them is to complaint to your kids who will get rid of the cruel care-takers right? What happens if you have no kids? Hell, your savings could vanish in a trice in an inflationary environment. And you may be too old to care for yourself. Then you have to count on your kids, right? I guess, today, an elderly American male cannot count on his kids for anything even if he has several. Therefore they are all preferring to not have kids at all as it does not support for old age anyway. What a sad state of affairs. I fault social security for this. The only way to get Americans to start having kids seems to be either to get rid of Social security or permit polygamy…..but that’s a whole new canof worms

  103. Lumiere October 6, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Best post you have written for a long time.

  104. JST October 6, 2011 at 8:36 am


  105. xsplat October 6, 2011 at 9:17 am

    I’ve been an entrepreneur since my teens, and have had more financial failure than success. The success is good, but it’s not about the money.

    The greatest business knowledge I’ve ever learned is how to live my own life as I want on a very small budget.

    And now I’m doing well. That’s good too. But that’s just a bonus.

  106. Anonymous October 6, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Hey you kids! Back to work! I need my Social Security paid up!

    And get off my lawn!

  107. doesNotMatter October 6, 2011 at 10:16 am

    @ The Impenetrable Indian
    there are already people teaching game in india. Apparently they also push people to do live field approaches. Check it out

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  109. Anonymous October 6, 2011 at 11:35 am


    Because it’s far easier to just fucking whine and mope.

    I guess “man up” has more than one meaning, one of which was lost on them.

    Change your fucking life. You have the power.

  110. Unlce Elmer October 6, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Great essay Roosh. Sorry I am late to the pahty. Someone linked this over at the Spearhead, where we have been having a great conversation about Bill Bennett.

    When you are ready to return to the states and doctor up your resume, take a look at my Employment Game essays on Spearhead for tips on how to do it :


  111. anonymous x October 6, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    For those with debts, there are plenty of resources on the web for living frugally. The idea being that all your excess income goes straight to paying down that debt as quickly as possible.

    Heck, for those living without the 9 to 5 income like D&P, knowing how to live frugally will help a lot while you establish alternate income streams. And it will force you to up your inner game in order to score women when living this way.

  112. anonymous x October 6, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    One more, the problem with ditching student loans is not only could they go after what little assets you have and garnish your paychecks, they could also hold up your passport someday as student loans are a bigger bubble than consumer debt and the banksters want to get paid one way or the other. Don’t think they can do that? They’re already doing it with delinquent child support. Better to actively get them off your back and keep them off than to simply walk way from it all.

  113. iseewherethisisgoing October 6, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    Phase 1: The sales pitch. Sell them the dream. When they stop buying it move on to phase 2.

    Phase 2: The hard sell. Appeal to their vanity. Tell them buying the dream will make them more desirable and get them laid. When that stops being effective, go to phase 3.

    Phase 3: Shame, ridicule and guilt. Call them selfish, immature, losers etc. Tell them buying the dream is essential to their self worth. When they start catching on enact phase 4.

    Phase 4: Continue the guilt trip but also enact laws and policies that more effectively drain those that still buy into the dream. Ramp up these laws as necessary to compensate as more and more opt out. When there are no longer any left to drain, phase 5.

    Phase 5: Naked force.

    I hope I’m just being paranoid.

  114. moop October 6, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    Lol way off @magnificent, like I said I’m 20, no job or wife or anything. I go to U of I, where you literally have to be an aspy to not get laid.

    I don’t hate Roosh, nor do I hate his lifestyle. There have always been burnouts in the world, hell I have some as friends. What gets me is when they try to act like their lifestyle is somehow superior, and that we’re all chumps for actually wanting to work for a living (notice I didn’t say work for a boss). There used to be a time when people had a healthy sense of shame about being a bum. Now PC assholes like you call it “thinking outside the box”.

  115. BostonJames October 6, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    Seems like a bit of an immature post.

    It is a straw man argument, relying on a false dichotomy.

    It’s not as if the only two paths in life are being a traveling bum with no roots, or a suburban dad with no life. American Beauty was not a documentary.

    I, and many people I know, lead fulfilling lives that blend international work with personal lives, and have a high degree of freedom.

  116. magnificent224 October 6, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    Sorry Moop, am not a PC asshole as you call it, since being PC is the road to kill free speech and i believe in free speech to much to ever let something like that happen. As far as being a ”bum” that is your perspective, some of the greatest minds that have ever lived were not 9-5 people, its really that simple. They did not ”fit” in your mold, I would love to know what you are studying in school that makes you such in authorithy at the ripe old age of 20. School is a scam watch this documentary called ”why college is a scam” its on youtube, you my friend are a ”in the box thinker” they love simple minded people like you, you would do great in the military ”obey” that is your motto.

    From what i know Mr. Roosh already did his time working for the man even getting himself a degree and all that jazz, why those he have to justify himself to some twenty year old punk that probably will be fliping burgers when he gets out of school cause the American economy is so bad? Your degree, you will probably be using it as a paper air plane once you get out of school Moop. So please spare me, as for ”healthy sense of shame” keep that for yourself when you will be cleaning bathrooms for a living, while your boss tells you to ”get that chocolate milkshake”

  117. moop October 6, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    @mag, I’m going into medicine bro. Thanks for your concern, but I think I’ll be okay lol. I definitely agree w/ u that people who pay big bucks for useless liberal arts degrees are getting fleeced.

    BostonJames gets it right, what you and Roosh are engaging in is nothing but a huge black and white fallacy. You have more choices than either your uncle’s lifestyle or Roosh’s.

  118. Anon October 6, 2011 at 3:45 pm

    “There used to be a time when people had a healthy sense of shame about being a bum.”

    @ Moop,

    Since when does traveling around the world & selling e-books make some a bum? Finish getting your degree & get a job before you call someone a bum.

    A bum is someone who sits on a corner drinking all day, which is what most “normal” guys would be doing if they lost their jobs, wives, kids, money, etc. The irony.

    Funny how all the haters come out. They’re reading a website about traveling and fucking, and yet they get angry when Roosh says that’s what he plans to keep doing.

    Anger is the first stage of grief and these haters need to grieve what’s become of their lives.

  119. Anon October 6, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    “the problem with ditching student loans is not only could they go after what little assets you have and garnish your paychecks, they could also hold up your passport someday”

    Someday, someday, maybe, but not today.

    If you are in the position to pay off student loans, then by all means, do so. But if you’re making $30,000 at Starbucks with $200,000 in loans for some bullshit degree, then to hell with your loans. Nothing’s going to happen to you.

    As for your passport worries, if millions of uneducated Mexicans can make their way into this country, surely you can find a way out if need be.

  120. moop October 6, 2011 at 3:51 pm

    Nah, I don’t care that he’s gonna keep doing what he’s doing. Its his life, right? Plus I enjoy reading his stories, he’s got a good sense of humor.

    What bothers me is that he condemns doing anything else as a waste of time, a sucker’s bid. If one of my stoner burnout friends said that to me, you can bet I’d call him out in the same way.

  121. magnificent224 October 6, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    Moop my man, don’t get me wrong i understand both sides. What you are doing is extremely practical in the matrix sense. Meaning you are trying to be practical, you are trying to make sure your career options are maximized to there full potential. Take for example my cousin, who became a nurse practitioner that is making good money and has a good future with her husband who is a dentist. The American dream right there right? Now if your measure of success is that, then she is dong good. Believe me am extremely happy for her. What I am trying to say is that, not everyone fits in this mold.

    Some people come out of a different path, and still succeed. We also have to define what is success to us personally. Some guys are multi-millionairs and feel that something is missing. Some guys don’t want the rat race, them not being involved in the rat race spells sucess. You will be a dr, great for you. To me working 18 hours to or sometimes more as in md, and making 300k and not seeing my kids if I had any would not be the epitome of success. I have two people I know who are millionaires. One is a Dentist, with a University degree another one is in the mortgage broker who is a high school drop out, I use to give him bus tickets and bring him food for his fridge, 2009 they did 7,000,000 worth of business.

    Some other people would look at these examples, and say these people are probably not happy etc, etc, so if going abroad and living what you perceive as the ”easy” life makes Roosh happy, it’s really up to him to define what makes him happy and thats really not up to you to make that decision for him or for you to pass judgement on him, that is why we call it ”free will”.

    Let a player play.

  122. Anonymous October 6, 2011 at 4:31 pm


    Fuck society.

    As a white man without even the good taste to be gay what has it done for me lately, except attempt to throw obstacles in my way? At this point I’ll give it all the consideration it’s given me: none.

    The US and the West do not equal the world.

  123. Sam Spade October 6, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    I thought this was a great post. It’s not about having a 9-5 versus not having one, or getting married vs. not. It’s about not putting yourself in man made prisons because that’s what society expects. I commend Roosh for taking the chances he takes and eschewing those things he doesn’t want. And yes, I’m married and have a 9-5. I’m happy with both, but without Game I’d be just another miserable SOB. You’d better believe that if I didn’t want my job or my wife, I’d find a way out. Life is short.

  124. Papa Smurf October 6, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Uncle Roosh,

    Your advice is legedary. It never ceases to amaze how much wisdom you have accumulated. You are a true Guru. Fuck the haters. A hater’s job is to hate, so let them hate.

    Anyways, good post. Keep it up.

    –Papa Smurf

  125. Anonymous October 6, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Moop, why are you going into medicine?

  126. Anonymous October 6, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Moop is a true hater masquerading as an open minded observer. You’d do Mr. Smith proud.

  127. samseau October 6, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    There will be no money to be made in medicine seven years from now, Moop. You should be worried.

  128. The Glee Manifesto October 6, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    I think it’s high time for another one of those cartoon-pick up video contests.

  129. The Lightning Weasel October 6, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    There is always the option to master the system…?

  130. BostonJames October 6, 2011 at 8:47 pm


    Sigh, who care who that person is or isn’t.

    Medicine remains the most solid and stable career, because it is one of the most inherently useful. It also requires a very long training period, which keeps competition down.

    So, forget all of the healthcare debate, no matter what happens, someone who becomes a doctor will not be poor, and will almost certainly be in the top 5% or better of incomes, and have the ability to switch jobs and locations with relative ease.

    What it comes down to here, is that people are confused about work life balance.

  131. moop October 6, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    @samseau, I’m wouldn’t be a doctor for the money, it wouldn’t be worth it. My mother is a doctor, I know how stressful it is. And guess what, that’s what I like about it. Give me an intellectualy demanding job over an easy one any day. This goes back to what I was saying earlier: the majority of westerners these days are lazy entitled fucks who scowl at the idea of having to work for anything. Frankly, you guys kind of deserve feminism.

  132. Hamster October 6, 2011 at 9:29 pm


  133. Anonymous October 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    @Moop: You are just a young idiot!!! A “useful idiot,” I might add, for the matrix.

    You are a lazy intellectual fuck!

    Roosh, don’t mind haters like Moop. They will always hate and revere their positions in captivity.

  134. Desiderius October 6, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    The final word on Clueless Bill:

    Modern Social Conservatives are in many ways like the elderly World War I generals who told the young men under their command to fix bayonets and to charge fruitlessly into machine gun fire for “duty and honor”.

    They were so bound up in tradition and their view of how they though the war should be, that they were unable or unwilling to adapt to the new reality. Millions needlessly died.

  135. Anonymous October 7, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Enjoy Poland.

  136. @anonymous @ moop October 7, 2011 at 6:50 am

    ” you’re trying too hard to justify your life. One day you’re going to wake up and realize that you are completely alone, and nobody loves you except your mom and your cat”

    THat’s exaclty what I do. I love my mom and family, and banging girls (no cat).

    @moop and Anomnymous: Life is a choice. Banging girls is a choice. If you don’t like that, there is always another option…and another website to visit. Good luck!

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  138. Anonymous October 7, 2011 at 11:48 am

    You’re right, but Roosh I think you ,”Offended” all the self rightious, no game having nerds reading this here.

    Its like the saying goes”throw a stone into a pack of dogs and the one who yelps,is the one who got hurt.
    Keep throwing them stones Roosh.These nerds will get it eventually,maybe?

  139. davver October 7, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    You can work 9-5 without being a tool if you are willing to accept jobs for reasons other then money. I had a very lucrative career and gave it up for a comfortable gig working on healthcare reform. As someone who grew up in a family with lots of pre-existing conditions, and having many nasty ones myself (like type I diabetes and others), I’ve seen what a hardship it causes. Myself, and many like me, could never even do what Roosh does because we need health insurance to survive. I’m a part of fixing that, so young people can be entreprenuers without worrying that medical bills will bankrupt them. That has a lot of value to me. Its a 9-5 in an office with a boss, but its work with a purpose I beleive in and as government employment I can pretty much tell my boss to screw off if he’s making a rediculous demand and not worry about being fired.

    I don’t think everyone can do that, but I found a 9-5 nieche I liked. I’m not a pauper like Roosh, but I did give up a lot monetarily. Its hard not to be a tool without either giving up some money or accepting a lot of monetary risk that might not work out.

  140. Anonymous October 7, 2011 at 2:20 pm

    LOL “moop” is a 20 year old, yet you’re all treating him as if he’s something other than a kid who’s spouting the stuff his family force-fed him growing up. See what he has to say when he’s double his current age.

  141. Anon October 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    I don’t really follow this blog too closely but I was wondering if you think the same for American men that you post about American women here? You know there are just as many fat,materialistic, obese, lazy, mean and bitter men in America as there are women. I have done a good amount of traveling around the United states and I do believe there are many men and women here that are like that but not all. Fortunately, I am not friends with people who apply to all of those things combined. Sure a few may be a little overweight but none of the other negative qualities I listed. People who have all those negative qualities combined are not fun to be around so I avoid them.

  142. Renn October 7, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Great post.

    Moral of the story–everyone has to make their bed and sleep in it.

    While America is clearly in decline, I, speaking for myself only, am not comfortable idly standing by, or jumping ship to another locale. I like to think I’m a more patriotic American than that.

    For those of you who think that there’s nothing to be done about all this (feminism, economic/societal collapse etc.), there most surely is–you can get involved in your communities and be the change you want to see in the world, just like Gandhi said.

    I don’t know about you, but I’m going to start by 1) Being that responsible, male archetype that women won’t have a choice, but to respect and admire 2) Avoiding like the plague any women who doesn’t repent of her evil, feminist ways 3) Demanding that I be respected as a man and leader in any relationship I find myself in 4) Eventually, getting married and having a litter of kids 5) Refusing to be a mortgage-debt slave and even raising a family in my parent’s basement if I have to 6) Continue pursuing my life’s passion, which is health and fitness.

    Along the way, I’ve become active in local politics as a district leader in my neighborhood, I work hard to get conservatives elected locally and nationally (Ron Paul), I write about and spread the message of freedom (from all manner of man-made slavery) on the radio airwaves, and in my relations with others, I do what I can do to be salt of the earth (a preserving force, as it is written).

    I don’t mean to turn some of you off, but do you know Jesus? I must ask because if you look at his life, he lived in very similar times. You should check out, Jesus: Illegal Tax Protester, which talks about how the equivalent of the central banks of the world were demanding “all the earth be taxed” (much like today) and that people were living in a state of perpetual debt slavery.

    Why do you think Jesus appealed to tax-collectors so much? His message, which I believe was to opt out of the whole system, was very appealing to many people. No, I’m not likening Roosh to Jesus, you morons. What I am saying is that some of you are raising important questions like, ‘Why are we here?’ type questions and I believe that you can’t really understand the answer to those types of questions without studying scripture, especially the Gospels because Jesus (Son of God) basically left us a blueprint for HOW TO LIVE.

    Not that we should all become vagabonds and travel from town to town preaching the word of God (although that might sound attractive to some), but what I am saying is that ultimately, we as humans derive the greatest amount of satisfaction from SERVICE, meaning serving our fellow mankind, in whatever it is that we ultimately end up doing with our lives.

    That’s why empty consumerism, meaningless sex, and drunken debauchery are all fun for a short time, but quickly become dull.

    Just a thought . . .

    Have a nice day.

  143. You Are Owned October 8, 2011 at 4:15 am


    I sure hope there are more like you going into medicine even with the terrible economics coming its way because with medical school enrollments down, Baby Boomers retiring which decreases supply of health care and them entering a more intensive demand phase for health care the price should go up.

    But you and other doctors like you are going to be Obama’s bitchez and he is going to set how much you can earn and who you have to serve OR you get your license revoked.

    Price controls always lead to shortages and shortages lead to rationing. Its like the 70’s with gas but instead with health care and already happening with certain drugs. With the portent for massive health care shortages in the future we need more livestock like you Moop who do not mind being milked four times as much and given 25% the normal rations for food.


    “I’m wouldn’t be a doctor for the money, it wouldn’t be worth it. My mother is a doctor, I know how stressful it is. And guess what, that’s what I like about it.”

  144. Anonymous October 8, 2011 at 5:12 am

    True that Roosh. You know I have lately started thinking in the way way as you did here.

    Keep up the good work man! =)

  145. Anonymous October 8, 2011 at 5:53 am


    Buddy, your just a 3rd year undergrad in some science degree acting like hes hot shit.

    Go do the MCAT and pass med school.. until then, stop pretending to be a doctor.

  146. Anonymous October 8, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    When you are a 60 year old, hairy, saggy, fat guy and alone on Christmas, I wonder if you will be envious of the guy with a family and a 9-5 job. Oh wait, you won’t be lonely, you will be busy researching your new book. Nursing Home Bang.

    1. eastwestbrainer March 29, 2014 at 5:27 pm

      I can’t tell if you’re attempting to insult him, or letting him know that he’s on the right path. Do you even know?

  147. Buitre October 8, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    @148 … Hey, what is wrong with “Nursing Home Bang”??, those are mostly the only options starting to be left in North America for most guys anyways!!! …. It can even be sold at Amazon as a discount package along with “Obese Girls with Attitude Bang” and “Stressed out Mediocre Bitches Bang” … jajaja seems like the future is here!!, isn’t that amazing??? … 🙂

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  150. Marian October 9, 2011 at 2:44 pm

    Hey, Roosh, don’t mock science and scientists, much less so when you actually studied it.

    Doing science is fucking great. An intellectual adventure. Conquest of the unknown. Going where no one has gone before. Being a small follower of Pascal and Pasteur and Purkinje.

    I am no longer doing science, because I am not creative enough, but I liked the days back on the PhD program.

    I am not really sure if you actually started despising science frankly, or if you’re playing sour grapes.

  151. Anonymous October 10, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Ha, ha, ha, great post. The final reminds me of the joke with the fisherman and the CEO.

  152. La Metrelleta October 11, 2011 at 1:33 am

    This right here is absolutely fantastic. Absolutely!!!!

  153. uh October 11, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    “For those of you who think that there’s nothing to be done about all this (feminism, economic/societal collapse etc.), there most surely is–you can get involved in your communities and be the change you want to see in the world, just like Gandhi said.”

    Gandhi does not speak for “the world”. You cannot save a civilization from collapse. The ability of civilization to innovate its way out of impending disaster is one thing, your personal story quite another. I don’t know where people got this sappy, absurd, arrogant little notion that “you can save the world!!!”

  154. Anonymous October 11, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Medicare and medicaid will soon be bankrupt as there won’t be money to pay for it then being a medical proffessional will be the same as in third world countries no third party payer to inflate prices. Roosh have you tried looking at the worldsexguide.com or internationalsexguide.info, they have tons of info on hooking up all over the world and its been out for a long time.

  155. Bank October 11, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    This should be published.

  156. Tyciol October 12, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Love how this goes full circle by the end.

  157. Buttmunch October 15, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Sounds like you got sand in your vagina again.

  158. Anonymous October 16, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Don’t forget that American playboys easily banging chicks in Poland, for example, is a result of you winning the Cold War. If it had been the other way around, it would be the Russkies who would be banging your women right now. So you better keep the home front alive as well if you want the favorable situation to continue 🙂

  159. Little Tigger November 18, 2011 at 2:10 am

    Altho different ideas of what fun is, GREAT IDEA! I am doing it too. I edit video in my little repair shop, not rich but it pays. I only have to walk 2 feet to work, from bed to computers. I have a cheap PBX suystem to take calls, think Asterisk. I can take a nap when I want, take a break when I need it, and my disability does not get in the way of work. Weekends spent playing. Never getting married and society can’t make me so they can eat a poop.

  160. Mikkel February 22, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    I’m from Denmark and have read your opinions about this country. Until about a year ago, I thought I was crazy. Am I the only one who see this ? Lately, I’ve noticed that many shares my experiences towards women. I had swallowed half of the red pill, but still wasnt there yet.
    Then, you came along and expressed exactly what I secretly had been thinking for years, only I thought I was alone..and now that I know that something is completely wrong, I’ll stop chasing the cold arrogant and needy bitches around here, and go look somewhere else.

  161. Zak April 9, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Roosh, I’ve got so say it, yet again, fanfuckingtastic. Very perceptive stuff as always mate.

  162. SJ January 23, 2013 at 10:33 am

    Brilliant post as always Roosh! I am also a writer and happy bachelor and have been to South America and Asia to bang my way across the world. I have job but can leave at will since I have taken the red pill and avoided marriage and dating for the most part. Planning to visit Eastern Europe this summer and Poland is on my list!

  163. Tessa January 23, 2013 at 11:52 am

    “I want a laid-back life of freedom, banging women in countries where America is still seen as some golden land” If any, that’s the reason you’re getting any, trust me.

    “But wait, when I get older, I still want to benefit from the social security I didn’t contribute to while I was slumming it in eastern Europe” Society (worldwide) can’t function if everyone chooses to live like you plan to.

  164. Hannibal January 24, 2013 at 3:11 am

    This reminds me of a story (might have been a parable or whatever) I heard once. There was a man about twenty feet away from shore, lying down in his boat getting some sun and casually smoking a cigarette while fishing. A man walks up to him and asks, “Do you consider yourself a good fisherman?”. The guy ponders this for a while and responds, “Yeah, I catch enough fish to feed myself, with enough left over to sell so that I can hang out with my friends in the bars to drink beer and play cards”.

    The man on the dock responds with , ” You should save up some money and buy more boats, then employ people to work for you. With all that extra money, you’ll be able to buy more boats. Eventually, you can retire and do whatever it is that you please.” The man in the boat pondered this again and responded ,”So what you’re saying is that, once I have built up my fishing empire in perhaps ten or twenty years, I’ll be able to retire so that I can afford to spend lazy evenings on the beach, fishing and casually smoking cigarettes and then later go drinking with my friends in the bars?”

    “Yes, exactly that.”
    “Looks like I’m doing just fine, then.”

  165. Maldek January 25, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Spot on Rooshv!

    There is an old story about a greek and a german, very similar to yours.

    Not as depressing as this one for the average western slave personality though.

    “No one is more hopelessly imprisoned than the slave who falsly believes he is a free man.”

    -> I wonder what it takes to wake up just one sleeper so he is going to change the course of his life. It can be done, it is not even that hard. But still, they would rather die than break free.

  166. Anonymous February 8, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    so cute

  167. Tyc April 26, 2013 at 1:18 am

    It is wrong to call girls sluts for losing their virginity at 14 Roosh 🙁

    Sluttiness is about having very low standards and living messily, you can have high standards and still have sex early.

    1. BOSSDONMAN . November 22, 2016 at 2:06 am

      This is what happens when you live in such a broken society as we do in America. If losing your virginity <14 is not considered slutty, then I just do not know what to say.

      1. Nathan Larson May 3, 2017 at 2:54 am

        If she loses it to her husband then it’s not slutty.

  168. Quarterback1 December 2, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    This is an incredible post. Beautiful.

  169. Ind December 3, 2013 at 8:56 am

    One of the hardest languages in the world? Try learning Lithuanian.

  170. Alpha January 9, 2014 at 12:43 am

    based on the things I’ve read on your site, you will never be a true man. you might be able to successfully fake it and you might be able to convince some (but not all) people of it, but at night when you lie there in bed staring up at the ceiling in the dark, wishing that your brain could turn off and that you wouldn’t have to listen to your thoughts? that is when you are reminded that you will never be a true man.

    so go ahead. “man” up. just know that while you are bullshitting both men AND women out there? they will be completely aware of it. just know also that while honesty is the best policy, I’m sure the majority of men wouldn’t even waste their precious time to teach you otherwise because you are nowhere near alpha nor even beta. you are the bitch dog at the bottom of the pack, forever wishing to run with the big boys.

    and so, you write hate, because you hate yourself. you try to convince yourself that you know how women think and what they really are, because you are too stupid to understand why you have been rejected. you try to convince yourself of these things by writing it out on the internet, hoping that some men will agree with you. and the sad thing is? those men who do agree with you are also the bitch dogs in the pack. so what you think is support, really at it’s core isn’t. just a bunch of bitch dogs, rejected and lonely and self-hating, coming together and finding solace and friendship because they are too incompetent to do so in real life.

    and as an Alpha male? I don’t even pity you, nor do I sadly smile and pat you on your head at your stupidity. No – I take the time to do what others are afraid to do and tell you to your face what you are because that is what an Alpha does. And like a proper bitch dog, you’ve read it all. How’s the view from the bottom of the barrel?

    1. eastwestbrainer March 29, 2014 at 5:24 pm

      I learned as a boy to judge people’s inner dialogue by the insults they use against others – it’s pretty infallible.

      My assessment here is you’re a highly intelligent, self-loathing educated man who simply cannot believe that the women you thought you mutually loved and respected are so well and truly fucked in the head as all this (they are though)

      You feel excluded from your community, and are also looking for a place to call home (else why are you here, leaving long, smug comments but for attention from the other denizens?)

      Deep in your heart, you know I’m more right than wrong, and like a proper bitch dog, you’ve read it all.

  171. tedwest January 13, 2014 at 10:37 am

    this is perfect

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  174. Dohn Joe September 6, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    Sounds like my life…except she didn’t cuckold you before the divorce…

  175. RebelAlliance January 20, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    Beautiful prose. Bravo.

  176. Zelcorpion March 11, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Funny story. Good one.

  177. Joseph Dickerson March 15, 2015 at 10:50 am

    So you already got to your final goal without going through all the other bullshit!!! Too bad I did not follow that path. I am married and it sucks.

    1. Rosel March 19, 2015 at 8:54 am

      Aw, Joseph. Why does it suck? If you can’t change that, why not follow through in real life and get a divorce? Never a better time than now. Your life could be remade in just a couple of years.

  178. Chris Gillingham March 26, 2015 at 5:10 am

    hahaha..been a while since ive rooshed, but this is the funniest (and truest) one yet.

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  180. disqus_2015ScorpioWater May 3, 2015 at 8:41 am

    This post is the best one I ever read in my entire life. FUCK THE SYSTEM!!!

  181. Jason Lovett May 12, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    So great

  182. Dougie Howser May 27, 2015 at 7:21 pm

    Glorious truth, damned truth, but truth it remains.

  183. Anonymous June 9, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Fucking Awesome!

  184. john widmer December 22, 2015 at 2:04 am

    “my daughter a slut who loses her virginity at the age of 14.”

    Funny that this is a problem on Roosh.com.

  185. Geoff February 5, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    Goddamn it Roosh, you sure have a way with making life sound depressing.

  186. Nathan September 6, 2016 at 8:50 pm

    Who will give a shit in 200 years. Why do you bother.

  187. Nathan Larson May 3, 2017 at 2:53 am

    This is brilliant and savage.

  188. Noa May 9, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    Obligatory reading for every American man.

  189. PPD 808 July 18, 2017 at 8:22 am

    You sure this wasn’t meant for April 1?

  190. James Parks July 27, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    Roosh I love you, man! This is one of your best pieces.

  191. Janik Litalien August 5, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    As I was reading this, I had to double check the date, I really thought it was April first

  192. Kevin Shepherd October 9, 2017 at 12:14 pm

    its a rat race out here, i think societies even in the African setting where am from continue to encourage people to marry while young so as to discover the true natures of the genders in marriage.it is cruel and sounds like something horror novelist Stephen King would create. I believe men shouldn’t even date seriously or marry until they understand that a marriage certificate is a biased contract against the individual with more money which in most cases is the guy.its a risk no informed individual can take based on fleeting emotions which aren’t even shared by women. Its sad many men are still unaware thank the universe for the manosphere.

  193. Carlos Hamilton August 8, 2018 at 5:00 pm

    One of the best posts I`ve read of yours