Is Game Making Women Overconfident?

I was talking with a Ukrainian guy who wants to move to America someday. He asked me a lot of questions about our women. Obviously, I didn’t have a whole lot of good to say…

“In America, a 200 pound woman who you would never have sex with is more confident than a beautiful woman you have here. Logically that doesn’t make sense, because how can fat and ugly women believe in themselves so much? But that’s the reality. When they are in the club, they reject men in the harshest way possible.”

It really is quite amazing how very unattractive women in America act like they are hot shit. There is no humility and no gentle nature, just loud and brash behavior that makes you wonder if they’re self-deluded or “faking it until they make it,” even though we all know the only thing they’re making is the end of a pint of Haagen Daaz. They even have the audacity to repeatedly say “I’m hot” without a hint of irony. Why are they acting this way?

The first possible culprit is social networking. Heartiste described this phenomenon in the past:

Try to picture this life, except with the sex roles reversed. Every one of your trivial observations or random thoughts gets “upvoted”, literally and metaphorically, by throngs of admirers, mostly female but some male too. Your lauded accomplishments amount to sharing cute puppy pics. Say something stupid? No one will call you out on it. Make a lame joke? Everyone laughs uproariously. Post a drunken photo of yourself? Hundreds of chicks “like this” and cheer in unison, “you go, guy!”. Tell no one in particular that you are sad, and you’re having a bad day? Hundreds more line up to offer uplifting messages of support.

You get the idea. Now, what do you think experiencing life like that will do to your self-esteem? If you answered, “my self-esteem would fly through the roof”, you win. Again.

Social networking takes many years to have a collective effect on the women. For countries where it has only been popular for two or three years, you don’t see the raising of self-esteem like in America. But I wonder if it’s only a matter of time.

Another factor is online dating. We’ve all heard stories of how girls using Plenty of Fish, OK Cupid, and Match.com get hundreds of messages even when they’re not that attractive. Why should she care that you approach her in the bar when her inbox is full of guys within the safe confines of her MacBook Air? For most girls that I dated in Eastern Europe, I can only imagine how much more negative their attitude would be had hundreds of men complimented them and offered to take them out. The internet has done a lot of good for guys like us who can share game knowledge, but I wonder if the net effect is negative.

This Onion article describes another reason: a culture of fake girl power and undeserved validation seeking.

According to witnesses, a tight-knit group of five female friends spent a wild night on the town Saturday, overindulging in emotionally supportive behavior and generally validating the living shit out of each other.

Confirming the women get together at least once a month for an all-out, anything-goes session of nonjudgmental reassurances, 28-year-old Sarah Dotson said the evening quickly turned into “a total rager,” with the friends sharing excessive amounts of admiration, empathy, and encouragement for one another.

We have trained women to deny reality in order to keep up appearances and to believe that a woman is not at fault for anything bad that happens to her. Soul-searching and disagreeable opinions are avoided. Anything good that happens comes from her strength and intellect while anything bad comes from being oppressed by men or society.

I think there is also a fourth reason which pains me to say: game. For every five guys who learn how to approach cute women, there will be one who has standards so low that he’s actually happy to get laid with a whale. In cities with huge populations, Washington DC included, that whale will be approached multiple times every week. How can you not conclude that you are indeed hot shit when guys are constantly trying to get at you?

Maybe women are not being so self-delusional after all—maybe they are just responding to the fact that they live in a country where their dating market value is not low. If their shares were priced on the world market, it would be a penny stock, but on the NASDAQ it’s traded like a hot tech IPO.

The American game revolution is late stage. Every single man in his 20s has heard of game and is familiar with its most basic tenets. He may even have tried several approaches himself. When the revolution was just starting, the sheer act of approaching was a demonstration of higher value. Back in 2002 when my game was shit, I got blown out only in a small percentage of approaches, even with the most awful openers that you could imagine. Girls would be pleasant for a minute or two before bowing out. I believe it’s because the confidence I displayed from doing a tough approach was intriguing to them. That is no longer the case. Your average 22-year-old American girl with only a 5 rating has now been approached an absurd number of times, nulling any confidence display you’d get from the approach alone.

Game, over the long term in any society, has a confidence raising effect on the women, increasing the level of game you need to achieve the same result as before. I would not be able to get laid with my 2002 game on those girls I banged ten years ago if I tried today. All the young men coming up not only have to run game in sausage environments but compete directly against older veterans in their early 30s who are going after the same girls. They are not in an enviable position and may have to resign themselves to lower quality for the short term.

In the next decade, the ugliest of women are going to be picky beyond reason and cruel to men who may very well be way above them in biological value. This is the reality you are facing with gaming in America, making it even more important to not only have tight game that is ruthlessly honed but also an additional niche or gimmick to give you a clear edge.

You can see that there are too many variables contributing to the pussy hell that many men encounter in the United States, and I see absolutely no demographic or cultural factor on the horizon that might reverse this trend. If there is no hope that the situation will improve in America in the next ten years, and the current crop of women are not providing you with happiness or a solid return on your time and energy investment in pursuing them, I think you know what the solution is.

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Women definetly WAY overestimate their value. They think marriage is on every corner and they all think they will eventually get the 6-2, chiseled jaw guy who makes 250k.

We know this to be true because Washington DC is a proverbial waste land of 30 somethign cougars all trying mightly to find a husband at this late hour in their life. What a sad fucking state of affairs it is around here. Just a bunch of fat ass, big boned chicks thinking that they can wait until they are 32 years old to land “the one.”

Talk about a stupid move. Let me enter into the most important decision in my life when my looks are fading, my attitude is at its worse and guys see me at my lowest value in my developed life.

Smart move. Maybe the bottom line is women are just plain stupid.

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Tinder and OKC are huge part of it. We swipe right about 80% of the time, they swipe right about 5% of the time. After that it’s simple Keynesian economics – supply and demand. Where we see barely bangable (much less marriage or even relationship material) in the dregs of our Tinder matches the girls see the Ryan Goslings. (the abundance of whom lulls the 5’s and above into conflating Gosling attention with Gosling affection)

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Brilliant insights, all too true.

Game jumped the shark around 2008-9 – around the time Roissy began to get big in the Manosphere; I’m not saying there’s a causal connection – and it’s pretty much over in the USA.

Girls know all about it. Until men start seriously withholding the dick, it’s only going to get worse: the whales will get ever bigger, more entitled, and bitchier.

Fortunately I’m in my early 40s so the lowest I go on a regular basis is late 20s, and most of my gals are early 30s, and they are a tad better on that front, many are grateful for the attention of any alpha; the younger ones are truly hopeless.

The first phase of the Revolution is over – quo vadis?

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This is definitely true. An acquaintance of mine in DC is now teaching “Game for Women” (yeah, I know – though you have to admire his chutzpah). The stories of these womens’ expectations are jaw dropping. All of them think that they deserve a guy who is at least 6 feet tall and makes over 100K. Either one of these requirements already puts a guy in maybe the top 5% of men for the US. I doubt the correlation between the two of them is one.

The few times a girl has said these things like this to me I replied “move to Denver or Toronto”. If she was white, I’d mention Copenhagen too.

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Roosh proving once again he has very valid insight into American culture even though he’s not here at the moment!

I totally see the overconfidence in women here in DC. The only group that don’t exhibit this overconfidence yet are new comers to DC and some of the plain, younger girls still in college.

The fatties in DC who have their JDs (1 in 12 people in DC are attorneys) or other advanced degrees have so much attitude it’s disgusting.

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“In America, a 200 pound woman who you would never have sex with is more confident than a beautiful woman you have here. Logically that doesn’t make sense, because how can fat and ugly women believe in themselves so much? But that’s the reality. When they are in the club, they reject men in the harshest way possible.”

Sorry homie, that’s my fault.

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The old PUAs used to say “leave her better than you found her.” It should be “leave her humbler than you found her?” This could be its own post:

*Withhold compliments
*Plant feelings of inadequacy for being unable to cook, dress well, etc. Call her ‘fattie’ every time she has a cookie.
*Tease her humiliatingly in front of others
*Laugh in her face when she starts spouting feminist talking points
*Call your male friends pussies when *they* don’t act this way too.

Result: your game is no worse off if not improved, and her appetite for narcissism abates slightly.

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Solid post.

Another phenomenon worthy of mention is the explosion of flaking.

In 2002, a number was a big deal. If you had a girl’s number, you’d call her, she’d pick up, you’d set up a date and she’d show up.

In 2012, a guy would is more surprised when a number does NOT flake.

How did flaking become so common and accepted?

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I hate blaming the victim, but the only ones who can stop that is us by shaming women and telling them it’s not okay to do that. Any girl who does that to me i text “i was talking to a friend and he said you did the same thing to him” They always text back “who?” or “which one?” never “sorry” implying 1. they do it regularly and 2. they only care about the fact they were caught NOT the fact that they wasted my time / energy.

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A part of me wonders if men will ever withhold dick and stop putting these girls’ pussies on pedestals. The only way men will take back the power is to stop giving into needing pussy so much that they’ll do anything, especially fucking fat girls.

Only solution: get out of America.

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I came to the same conclusion a few days ago. I thought of it in terms of an arms race. I feel like the only guys that are getting results like were possible for most guys that simply bothered to try back in 07 or 08 are the guys that are so good looking and fit that they didn’t even need game then, and they have to have super tight game to achieve it. Chicks that would have banged on the first date an average guy with any game at all in 90s won’t even kiss on the first date unless your game is air tight and you look like a model or athlete. Showing up to a bar in 2012 with what Roosh used successfully a decade ago is almost like bringing a kitchen knife to the beaches of Normandy.

Working harder in the gym, eating a more disciplined diet, and spending more time reading/practicing plays than it took to be a starting DII collegiate athlete, just to maintain a respectable sex life is beyond exhausting. I can see myself burning out and moving to Eastern Europe before 2020.

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“I see absolutely no demographic or cultural factor on the horizon that might reverse this trend”

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“Showing up to a bar in 2012 with what Roosh used successfully a decade ago is almost like bringing a kitchen knife to the beaches of Normandy.”

Hilarious and true.

The only real solution is moving away or indulging in foreign women in the USA (until they go rancid). I lived in DC for several years and most of my LTRs were with gals from Eastern Europe, a far better crop.

No sane man fight too hard for 99% of American women, they are simply not worth the effort.

That said, if you’re blessed with good looks, are in reasonable shape, and above all have the right personality (witty, a bit aggressive yet aloof, charming, and mysterious, AKA Mr Dark Triad) you can still clean up. Point being, with the vast majority of US women circa 2012, why bother?

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Roosh: then I assume the solution is to expatriate? All well in good but to what extent do you see the mechanisms of the disease spreading (eg facebook and social networking tools) changing the rest of the world? Or do you see certain cultures not being greatly effected by the American cultural virus?

[Roosh: Some hosts are more resistant to the “disease” than others. The East is more immune.]

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@Jesse

True that.

I had an average girl approach my friend and I at a cross walk asking for directions to a bar because she was from “out of town”. We didnt know the bar. But when we asked where she was from, it was from the town next door. We laughed. But as she continued walking she asked and my friend if that was my car were getting into. I was borrowing my mom’s older bmw 3 seriesas I was just in town for a couple of days. Then she said. “Oh, I feel so bad for you being so poor and all. I have an M6.”

I dont know what happened to women in this country, but a bit of unemployment might be a welcomed wake up call and dose of reality.

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“All the young men coming up not only have to run game in sausage environments but compete directly against older veterans in their early 30s who are going after the same girls.”

It is going to get even tougher for the young ones.

American males are getting married less and less. Which in turn, creates older more seasoned veterans out there still competing.

And the issue for the young kids is that these older cats are time tested True Game. Not “game” learned on the internet post 2005. They also have jobs and long dough.

We see the same thing happening in Boxing. The Older cats still dominate the sport. The boxing stars of the 90’s are still the stars today.

We see the same thing happening in Hip-Hop. The 90’s MC’s are still the best in the game.

This young generation has it so tough. Plus, they are so willing to use things like internet dating which only metastasize their problems.

Go short the young generation coming up.

– MPM

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One more thing:

The younger generation is also so easily manipulated by corporate America and are so far removed from the time when real Men walked the globe.

Older cats out their had fathers that were still old-school. Young cats have fathers that were soft as a snow cone in summer.

This is the reason they will jump on any suspect trend that is thrown their way: skinny jeans, glittery ed hardy shirts, hating smoking, using credit instead of CASH, texing instead of calling, internet dating instead of getting off their ass and approaching etc etc etc.

– MPM

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Sadly, I guess that means you are helping to fuel this beast.

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On the bright side, with skyrocketing obesity rates, there’s some potential for the advent of fast food game.

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“Solid post.

Another phenomenon worthy of mention is the explosion of flaking.

In 2002, a number was a big deal. If you had a girl’s number, you’d call her, she’d pick up, you’d set up a date and she’d show up.

In 2012, a guy would is more surprised when a number does NOT flake.

How did flaking become so common and accepted?”

This right here. Seems like every number I get now is a no go. Girl is obviously into it when she gives the number but when you go to call you get the message (acceptable and normal) and then no response, not even a text or what have you saying she’s too busy (rude). The crap men have to go through now just to get a number for a possible chance while a woman just stands there and looks pretty is absolutely astounding. The ratio of work to reward is just too far off.

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“GFE” does not mean “girlfriend experience” but “go foreign early”. There is just no comparison. America as a whole is bubbling- the economy (Facebook tanking), the culture, the sexual marketplace- all downhill.

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@Dan

Because the average guy accepts it!

A woman is as mean with us as we let her be. If we let them cheat, flake, put their asses pics on FB, etc. they are going to do it. They are like dogs!

We do not need to quit hitting woman, we need to start respecting ourselves.

Problem is, most guys sold their self respect for the chance (because they never get it) of getting some pussy long ago.

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i dont think the issue is social networking, vkontakte and odnoklasnii has been around for a long time now in FSU.

i noticed the phenomena of social networking boosting up fatties egos a few years ago (2006-7), i don’t think it took years to develop. In their minds they instantly had more options due to the perception that they were being observed by many males on FB, so they value themselves higher accordingly. It totally compounds the problem with guys just basically going for anything at this point.

its very simple, just don’t marry, fuck, or donate sperm to these types. as a guy you have access to multple generations of girls, although the culture now may be poison, who knows 5, 10, or 20 years from now. By contrast, girls only have access to one, maybe 2 generations of guys due to the age window. if currently guys don’t buy their shit, they simply won’t procreate and will wind up spinsters, their culture will die off and they will serve as a cautionary tale to the next generation of females. let nature take its course.

To pass the time – if you can’t hold out – just marry someone from abroad (or better yet move there to ensure you dont get divorce raped) and/or engage in meaningless sex and never commit to anyone in the US, until the current culture has passed and the next cohort changes its tune, in which case you can then get married.

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This is it. We can outsurvive this, but they cannot. We will certainly not survive it unscathed, because older men will then be competing with younger men for the same women. …Yeah, actually that seems to completely ruin it. Still, it might be enough to get that younger generation of women to settle early, leaving some men out in the cold – but then the lesson will be clear for future generations. And those men will still be better off than the women who got left high and dry.

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Last night, I was chatting with one of my friends on FB, and she re-posted an interesting discussion topic on her timeline to try to initiate a discussion:

“Every woman. No matter how rich or poor. No matter how well off in life. No matter her race, color or creed… EVERY woman…wants to feel these sense of security from a man. To know that “he got her”. It has 0% to do with finances or who makes more. Therefore I submit to you… Even women who ‘don’t need a man’ still… WANTS a man to take care of her. And being a broke ass nigga ain’t cutting it.”

For any more schooling folk will have to enroll in my next course. ~Shannon W. Rawls

Blinking with a tissue to the corner of the eye…yes…dear…yes…

Ok my Independent friends! What do you think? I agree, but love to have dialogue!”

She’s actually one of my more thoughtful, intelligent friends, that genuinely seeks to have real, thoughtful discussions. She was trying to get a discussion about this going, and NOT ONE of her friends interjected. We were on chat, and I was dropping some pearls. She called me out to put those responses on her timeline, so I did to try to get things going. Only ONE chick actually chimed in. Here is one of her responses:

“(Name Deleted) Although I could stand to loose 20-30 lbs, I still turn heads wherever I go. You better check out how many hits I got on the last photo I posted, (close to 30 hits)”

There goes some of that FB validation Roosh was referring to. I made a comment about the female “list” of attributes women want in a man, and how even chicks that don’t have it together mentally and physically think they deserve a great guy. I even flipped it, with how even fat dudes want dime pieces. Here was her response:

“(Name Deleted) Timothy…I consider myself a dime piece, and I LOVE me some fat man. Whoa!!! But I have recently stepped out of the box and dated someone that wasn’t fat. And I did go through the interviewing process about his retirement plan, yearly income, credit score and future goals.”

She went into how she feels men are intimidated by her because of what she makes, and because she has her shit together, blah, blah, blah. I take it that men are intimidated by her. They just don’t want to be bothered with her inflated opinion of herself.

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I sometimes wonder if Game-specific manosphere advocates blogging to enlighten the average male aren’t simply doing them a disservice of sorts.

When I read articles projecting that 42% of the U.S. population will progressively become clinically obese by the next decade I wonder “What am I preparing these guys for? A greater facility in hooking up with future land-monsters?”

Celibacy and Game-ignorance might be mercy for the average man in 2020

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And Roosh drops a bomb of an article. Damn, Roosh, you are a fucking master. Sad to say, but the average chubster in the USA can indeed get a date any day of the week to due the sad state of affairs that the USA dating market is in.

Roosh = The Last Samurai.

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I’ve actually been wondering if it sometimes goes the other way: more drunk beta guys making pathetic approaches encourages bitch shields to go up.

I know when I get approached by drunk fat/annoying girls and gay guys (welcome to dc) my shield goes up. Girls at bars expect most guy that come to them to be drunk losers.

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Dan,

“How did flaking become so common and accepted?””

Hate to break a little history lesson out for you, but this has always happened.

If you are getting “flaked on” today, you would have got “stood up” before cell phones existed.

Only back then you would have stood at the bar for an hour wondering if she got in a car accident, forgot, or is blowing you off (so to speak).

There was never this magical paradise that existed before cell phones.

It was basically the same only that guys didn’t act like girls as much back then, girls were a little thinner, didn’t wear Ugg boots 24/7, and when you traveled, you didn’t have to take your shoes off.

– MPM

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So after ruining the women in your own country (countries) you “game entrepreneurs” now want to come here and ruin ours?

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Just so that you can continue to sell your books and remain gurus or something, you’re going to try and turn our women in over-annoying fat whales who move in packs and are louder than a soviet helicopter?

Geez, find some other way to make money.

[Roosh: Posting from France I see. Don’t worry, your women are safe.]

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My Brazilian buddy and I saw a fat American girl pass by wearing her best bitch face.

“In Brazil, fat women are always smiling and happy,” he told me.

I replied, “Because that’s the only way they can get a man, right?”

Yes, he said.

A sad commentary on the US in 2012.

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This post is absolutely spot on. Facebook has been the worst thing ever to inflate the ego of beached whales and worthless single moms. No matter how fat a girl is, or whether she is a single mom etc, when they have 500, 1000, or whatever guys on their profile, there are going to be many who will feed their egos. It doesn’t matter how worthless they are.

Never add girls you want to fuck on facebook. You will be more interesting and won’t simply be one of the hundreds of guys kissing her ass.

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Game may have contributed to over confidence, but it is really the pervasive attitude in today’s society that women bear little to no responsibility for their actions, and that they are special snowflakes that has done the most damage.

There is no way the vast amount of women in the US has been conditioned to be absurdly unrealistic by the smattering of guys who have any clue about game.

Gamers are a blip at best. We are participating in a self-reinforcing community, and echo chamber. We may be right or mostly right, but the great unwashed are unaware and remain ignorant.

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This.

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It is also just American feminism which tells women from day one that they are oppressed, men are evil, and that a woman shouldn’t be judged by her looks, how well she cooks, or whether she will take care of a man.

The end result is that you have fat beasts who would have absolutely no fucking value in most other countries, but who in America think they are hot shit cause of all this feminazi indoctrination. They can still get dick cause there are so many whales in America that beta guys will have no choice but to fuck these chicks.

I spent two years abroad and then came back to America and upon coming back it was rough. Just talking to these entitled bitches who don’t even look like women was a joke after going to places like Brazil, SE Asia, or hell for that matter almost any country on Earth other than the US.

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Roosh: Americans guys tend to break their teeth here so for now we are safe. But I’m also posting this on behalf of all my eastern European and Latin brothers. I’m sure you know what I mean.

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Non-American female here, found this post by accident, while browsing 4chan. This may be a derp question but what is ‘the game’? From what I understood it’s a way to get laid. Tbh, I can’t comprehend sex on the first date or with someone you don’t know, this concept is just too alien for me.
OT: I’m 20-year old virgin (from Eastern Europe, coincidentally)and I honestly don’t understand how can a fat woman think that she’s hot. I’m a bit chubby (10 kg overweight) and I never had any confidence about myself (still don’t). Just because you’ll be laughed at if you pretend to be hot if you’re a whale in my country. And social networks didn’t ruin my personality. I don’t post ‘tee-hee I’m so ugly’ pics waiting for compliments. Social networks alone can’t dumb you down, if you’re smart, you’ll stay smart.

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“Is Game Making Women Overconfident?”

C’mon. Men could go extinct.
Bitches would STILL be
haughty – arrogant

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I think you guys have it wrong. In my experience, most women are incredibly insecure – even the hot ones. I’d even go as far as to say that seeking validation on facebook out Okcupid or whatever is a hallmark of low self esteem. Whatever confidence they project is a false confidence meant to convince themselves more than anything else.

The trick is to take this knowledge and give them what they need, validation. By that I don’t mean the sycophantic type of attention that most of these chumps that must of these guys shower women with like, ”oh you’re perfect.” I’m talking about level headed tactful acknowledgment of her flaws and acceptance, like ”yeah you’re a fucking psycho hose beast sometimes, but I still like you…when you’re being nice.” You give a woman this, and she’ll do just about anything for you. New whether

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Yep, that does seem to work like a charm. A few of us older guys remember that…it’s called honesty.

And they all seem to need a does of it lately. If you see a woman walking around somewhere, then stop her and give her a fine dose of it.

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The solution is “Love Tourism”

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I think you guys have it wrong. In my experience, most women are incredibly insecure – even the hot ones. I’d even go as far as to say that seeking validation on facebook out Okcupid or whatever is a hallmark of low self esteem. Whatever confidence they project is a false confidence meant to convince themselves more than anything else.

The trick is to take this knowledge and give them what they need, validation. By that I don’t mean the sycophantic type of attention that most of these chumps that most shower women with like, ”oh you’re perfect.” I’m talking about level headed tactful acknowledgment of her flaws and acceptance, like ”yeah you’re a fucking psycho hose beast sometimes, but I still like you.” You give a woman this, and she’ll do just about anything for you. Now whether or not she has any kind of character or integrity and is capable of delivering is another thing. Bitch can’t act right, she can’t act right. You can’t turn a hoe into a housewife. My bad if this gets double posted. Thumbs weren’t made for typing shit.

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While I agree on everything that you wrote, I must also point out that men have their fair share of fault.
Women think they are hot shit when they get a lot of attention, we, men, give them this attention while requiring none at all in return.
The point is that we’re devaluating ourself and if we, as a whole, had a little more self-esteem, we wouldn’t give up our self-esteem for a hint of pubic hair, because it’s what ONE man do, that fucks up the game for everyone else.

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Here in the land of deadly snakes and boxing kangaroos, our wiminz aren’t that far off your american sisters in terms of bitchiness and fatness. I see this trend as the culmination of a few different factors, and in my mind, it really started in the 90’s with all this self esteem bullshit they fed us in school.

All through the 90’s and early 00’s when I was being schooled, we were taught we were special, that everyone was a unique induvidual who could do no wrong. If we failed tests we still got credits, if we were woeful at sports we still got participation awards, as if getting off your ass and kicking a ball around for a few minutes was some sort of achievment. There was no pass/fail for Gen Y, it was competent/not yet competant.

Our culture was born out of british colonialism, so for the first few hundred years of settlement in Australia our cultural identity was closely tied in with that of old blighty. Then came television, and we started watching american shows (not that there’s anything wrong with that.)

Through the 80’s, 90’s and 00’s, social commentators complained about the Americanisation of our pop culture. We moved away from social conservatism and embraced the ideal of brash american induvidualism (nothing wrong there either). This seems to have lead to the mindset of “I am an induvidual, every choice I make is inherrantly right, because I made it, and damn anyone else who argues otherwise.”

Finally, there is feminism. We all know what that does to women, so I won’t bother going on about it.

Fast forward again to the 90s and 00s, and we have a Generation of Children growing up in a reletivly affluent society who largely don’t know poverty or hardship, who can do no wrong in school, who are never called on their faults, who are never shamed for their failures, who ape the characteristics of americans on sitcoms (where the bumbling male is the lapdog of the all knowing and mighty female matriarch) and what do you end up with?

Fat, entitled princesses with outrageously good self esteem and the knowledge that they can do no wrong, and that if someone says something bad about them or points out an uncomfortable truth they have hordes of people ready to fall back on for ego massaging and “support.”

It didn’t start with facebook, facebook only exacerbated the problem and added dynamite to a fire already fueled by petrol (gasoline to you americans.

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Is it really that bad in the US? Sure, here in the UK average girls and upwards similarly get a lot of validation, but at least most people still have the decency to call out a fat munter for what she is…

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Hah, I jumped the American women ship a long time ago. I’ve dated one or two between the time and guess what. It ended up in complete bat shit. Some of the most unattractive females are up too high due to the fact of the ratio being in their favor. I used to live in DC and it was the same shit. All American women are effectively phasing themselves out of the market.

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Roosh, look into that crystal ball of yours and tell us what will become of the USA. You should write a post specifically on how to survive the comming Fat Girl Apocalypse in the USA.

I also can’t wait until you visit the USA again. You have been gone for a while. You should do a blow-by-blow, step-by-step breakdown of your first night out when you come back to DC. That post would be epic.

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In my experience, most women are incredibly insecure – even the hot ones. I’d even go as far as to say that seeking validation on facebook out Okcupid or whatever is a hallmark of low self esteem.

Egggggzactly. 100% correct observation.
it looks like overconfidence on the surface.
but its just fake makeup.
whats inside the mind of a fat biatch?
fear. desperation. seeking to uplift her ego by lowering the value of others, esp. males.

The “Destructive” man requires external stimuli to feel alive. He is emotionally dead and without the world of objects and other people his life is nothing. He is deeply addicted to the stimuli which fills his psychic abyss. He cannot be still or alone. He is a shell addicted to fashion, conforming to be accepted. In his world image and appearance are everything. His experiences are banal and casual. He performs and mimics, but abuses trust, sexuality and beauty. What he cannot own or control he fears. He seeks a cause and master to avoid responsibility. If his desires are thwarted he becomes depressed, suicidal and aggressive. He is ambitious, competitive, and pathologically reliant upon approval. He is expert at manipulation and is hypocritical and immoral. Other people, especially those with inherent power and creativity, are his prey. He feels a sense of greatness from their loss or ruin. He is the implacable enemy of true creativity, independence and selfhood. Nothing is scared to him except his image, success, possessions and catalog of destruction.

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Deep

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NO it is the white knight culture that is making unattractive women overconfident. I left facebook because I can’t bear reading all the white knighting is done by betas who are never going to get laid with these women. It goes for the attractive and unattractive so all women get an inflated sense of their true worth.

If a large percentage of men would stop settling/marrying and being chumps eventually women will have to give into whatever men want. Regardless, if one has tight game they will win either way.

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@ 32

Ah yes, women who think being “educated” makes them attractive to men. I see a society filled with cat ladies in the near future. Women won’t realize how much feminism has hurt them until it’s too late.

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g manifesto:
It was basically the same only that guys didn’t act like girls as much back then

Girls hardly swore, too. Now, they swear more than a Marine.

More ugly tats, too…

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If i ever see Mystery, Mark Zuckerburg or Neil Strauss in a bar i’d punch them in the face. Those are the 3 biggest cockblockers in human history.

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Apparently these kinds of posts are just to get blogger attention/amusement value/not to be taken seriously … but … linking to the Onion like it’s a real news source????

You’re totally joking about this, right?

In the same issue, they also have the Kennedy’s releasing a list of tragic ways remaining family members might die …

http://www.theonion.com/articles/kennedy-family-releases-list-of-tragic-ways-remain,28306/

I don’t experience America as the pussy hell you make it out to be … it’s really not that bad. I have been overseas & those places have their own charms also… but the USA (especially NYC on the East Coast & the whole West Coast in general) is totally great.

I will say this though – the longest dry spell I had in my life from the time I began having sex (at age 14 … natural alpha) was in DC. DC just sucks … it’s a city driven by political power & government bureaucracy almost exclusively. If you don’t have pull in those areas you have almost no status there.
It’s unlike any other city in the US in this respect.

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Best post from Roosh I’ve read.