Leaving Girls Voicemail

The following exerpt is from my book Bang.

A girl has made up her mind on whether she is going to call you back before you even pick up the phone. There is no message in the world that will make the girl call you back when she already decided not to, but there are messages you can leave which can change her mind and stop her from calling you back. In the case of voice messages, boring is better. Our simple voice message avoids the pitfalls of a typical bad message, like the previously mentioned joke or story drop and also self-descriptions that insinuate you are forgettable. Bad message example: “Hey it’s Steve, from Friday night at the bar, with the striped shirt, just calling to say….” If she gave you her number she is already interested to you (or was at the moment she gave it). Until you see her again in person you can only do more to harm than help.

Once you leave a message, put your phone down and go occupy your mind with something else. You’re expecting a call, not waiting for one. Get on with your life and don’t worry about if your phone has a strong enough signal or if your ringer is loud enough for you to hear it. If you are doing things that you wouldn’t do if you were expecting a buddy of yours to return a call, then you need to take a step back by turning off your ringer and hiding your phone until the next morning. You give too much power to the girl if you eagerly await her call.

Phone game is important, but it’s one of the only areas of the game where simply being capable is enough. The phone is just a bridge to continuing the interaction, not intensifying it. If you keep that frame in mind you will talk to girls like you would talk to a friend: relaxed, fun, and brief. There is a band-aid to bad phone game in the form of text messaging (it used to be e-mail), but you’ll have to get her on the phone eventually so you might as well get it straightened out starting now. Bang has several pages on how to work the phone. You can learn more about what’s inside the book here.

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Ever since you “publicly returned” from hiding out in “South America,” your post quality seems to have gone up. It is good to see the last few posts back in the classic Roosh style.

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“If she gave you her number she is already interested to you (or was at the moment she gave it)”

She doesn’t necessarily like you if she gave you her number…I have definitely given mine out just to make people go away. Other than that; I agree. I have made my mine up whether I am gonna screen you or not before you call. Just don’t leave a long, rambley message that makes me think you are a social retard.

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my phone game is horrible. I am much better in person, but hey still working on it.

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hehe this is how we feel when we’re awaiting a call from a guy we like

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I’m signed up – are you going to give us the “real” carnival pictures in the newsletter?

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my simple phone message:

“hey what’s up. give me a call when you get this. bye.”

some guys advocate complicated phone game that’s supposed to renergize her and remind her of the good time she had with you when you first met. i’ve found though that this backfires more often than not.

i actually prefer when the girl does not pick up my first call, because the power position is to be the one receiving the call. so if she’s going out of her way to call me back, no matter when she does it, then my value has automatically been nudged up relative to hers.

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oh yeah, and you can also play little games with her over the phone. for instance, if she waits a day or more to call back, act like you barely remember her.

“wait, you’ve gotta jog my memory, i’ve been bouncing around from one party to the next sonce last friday. where did we meet?”

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If you really need Roosh’s advice, you’re not doing well. Roosh is bascially saying, “get a life” and “get many numbers”. That way, when you call and say, “this is Steve from the Benefit Dance on Saturday, you wanted to talk about South Africa…”, you won’t care if she never calls you back cause you actually have a life (like going to South Africa), talking to other hot women. Women will call you if you’ve got other things going on, other women you’re talking to.

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Roissy,
if you just want to leave a message and not risk her picking up the phone, you can do it by calling your own voicemail and then follow instructions. this is very powerful, and i wouldn’t use it when calling a girl. i would only use it when i have to call my dad back when i’d rather not talk to him at the moment.

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@Ava — that’s actually a pretty interesting approach w/ your dad. Both parties have to be with the same (telecom) carrier though, right? Doesn’t it say “Forwarded Message from XXX XXX XXXX” before the start of playback on his end?

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craig: that kind of sucks if it does that. I’ve done it before and have never heard any repercussions. If I ever did, I’d just blame ‘technology’, which is a synonym for ‘something girls don’t understand’. The chances a girl calls me out on it after that are slim to none.

Roosh: would you say the same basic principles of phone game apply to text game? It seems like a different world of no-face communication.

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with sprint you can add a “1” to the beginning of the phone number (ex. 1-1-202-867-5309) -sends you straight to voicemail.

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@LHG — huh, isn’t that interesting. Now just work the “oh man, my cell company (insert) sucks, who do you use?” into the convo to see if you can leave her messages like that. smile

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And there’s another thing about phone game : the time window. Call the day after you met the girl, and she’ll think you’re a no-life looser. Wait one week and the window is gone, she’s moved on already.

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…I like the call the day after approach — it throws them off. Might as well schedule that lunch date so you can see what she looks like when you’re (more)sober.

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The “fake number” thing, by the way, seems to be a very U.S. phenomenon. In Europe or in other parts of the world it almost never happened to me (or to anyone I know) – girls tend to give their number less easily, you have to get quite far in the game to get to that part, but when you manage to get to it it’s usually real. What about South America ?

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@Nomadz: Numbers come easily in South America, assuming you just don’t take them home after you meet them. They all have MSN IM addictions, and don’t understand why you don’t MSN them.

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… or why your e-mail address doesn’t end in a “@hotmail.com” or “@yahoo.com” … no personal domain name awareness.

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@craig : I see. Same here in Asia, in most countries girls are crazy about it, they can even call you and suggest you switch to a MSN chat, it’s almost as if it was more “private” and intimate for them. On the contrary, in Europe you would be a complete geek and a social freak if you asked her MSN to a girl you just met. Funny how the game has to be re-evaluated in every part of the world. But the basics are still the same, though, only the means of communication change.

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