Men And Women Are Affected Differently By Life Experience

Experience does not affect men and women the same. For one sex, experience is a stimulator of growth, a giver of value, and a path to virtue, while in the other sex, experience corrupts and creates embitterment, sadness, cat-hoarding, and decreased virtue. One sex should embrace experience to gain the strength that makes them a better human being while the other should avoid experience to preserve a more wholesome and innocent nature that makes them a worthy long-term partner capable of bearing children.

Experience to men is like lifting weights. It’s uncomfortable and causes discomfort, but once the lifting is done, the body calls upon its biological resources to heal the muscle to make it even stronger. The more a man lifts the more strength his muscles will contain, and the more able he can encounter difficult situations in the wild. When a man works difficult jobs, faces illness or poverty, struggles with a new language, or faces long bouts of sexual loneliness despite his best efforts, his muscles are being exerted. These situations are not favorable to his mind, but they turn him into steel. He becomes more capable of enduring pain and difficulty. He becomes full of wisdom, stories, and knowledge. He becomes more attractive to the opposite sex, and more knowledgeable about how to give women what they want.

Experience to a woman is like a puppy suffering abuse at the hands of its master. It rewires her brain to become cynical, jaded, distrustful, and sour. The benefits of these experiences fails to penetrate her brain, like a small stone skipping over a creek. All the experience in the world will not make her a more suitable life partner in the eyes of men, simply because her brain is not able to digest and process experiences like men.

Experience destroys a woman’s birth-given maternal and compassionate nature. It masculinizes her, morphing her into a sad excuse of a little man, void of penis. When a woman sleeps with dozens of men, receives attention from thousands more on the internet, works many comfortable office jobs, reads blogs all day, travels to Paris, London, or Barcelona, and has access to bountiful material possessions without having to work hard for them, her feminine muscles are being weakened. She loses value. Every day that she is not in the service of one man she has dedicated her life to is one that puts her farther away from ever connecting with one. Experience, it turns out, corrupts and destroys the feminine soul.

There is something admirable about a man who has done much with his life and survived, because we are given no benefit of the doubt in our pursuit of happiness. We struggle daily for basic things that women are given on a silver platter, either by the welfare state or thirsty white knights. There is no plan B for men. A man is forced to become virtuous, someone who must earn his salt every day, while a woman who has experienced the same morphs into a shrew, a calculating, un-motherly, and masculine specimen that is half-man and half-woman. She loses compassion and the ability to love one man. She becomes spoiled and ruined for the rest of her life.

Experience destroys women because their brain is not constructed to receive it. They are suitable for maintaining the hearth, for gossiping with their friends while the men risk their lives to ensure the survival of his children and his tribe. The only thing more absurd than a woman hunting zebras in ancient times is a woman today seeking out office employment to make her bread instead of serving a man in exchange for his. The only thing more absurd than a woman sleeping with every man in the tribe is a woman today needing to sexually experiment with dozens of penises as a source of entertainment or fun.

Only through experience can a man find himself, yet only through experience can a woman lose herself. The more experience she has, the more she has lost. Nature intended woman to seek protection from this cruel world behind a strong, experienced man. It’s how we’re built, and any attempt to go against this will result in misery for both sexes.

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  1. amin July 11, 2014 at 9:21 am

    Broooo why are u not the president? Your blog is deep in so many levels

    1. ??? July 11, 2014 at 10:51 am

      The elite only allow idiots to become the president; they are easier to control.

      1. Ian July 11, 2014 at 8:00 pm

        Fuck the US political matrix!

    2. Bora Bosna February 16, 2015 at 11:40 am

      He would be a far better President than Obama.

  2. JackBlack23 July 11, 2014 at 9:34 am

    This is why men need rites of passage …

    ” … rites of passage are actually more of a sign of an advanced society. It is patriarchy that builds civilization. Patriarchy is the idea of “putting sex to work,” which is based on the ancient contract of marriage. The ancient contract of marriage is an economic contract whereby a woman “sells” her sexual reproductive abilities to a man (i.e. the children of marriage are his children, not hers) in return for the superior protection and providing abilities a man can, and will, procure once yoked to children of his own. What does this have to do with rites of passage, you ask? Well, in order for men to be attractive to women, a man must surpass the female so that he has some tangible benefit to offer the female which she either cannot do herself, or is unwilling to do herself …”

  3. Neo July 11, 2014 at 9:42 am

    Very well said RooshV, Nice change from all that depressing stuff you have been writing lately.

  4. runsonmagic July 11, 2014 at 10:10 am

    “without having to work hard for them”

    Key phrase.

    The women I know who have benefited from experience had to work for it.

    Genetic trust fund kids never come out well.

  5. Раковски July 11, 2014 at 10:18 am

    This article is half baked and lacks understanding.

    Women are generally more physically delicate, though this does not mean they are “weaker” or inferior in any way at all. It simply means they are not as capable of physical exertion, nor are they usually quite as interested unless they have hormone imbalances. It also means they are more vulnerable to injury, accidents, physical harm and danger when they insist on acting “just like the boys”.

    While both men and women are extremely nutritionally depleted and toxic, women have the added problem that they are often pushing themselves physically far beyond what they are capable of in order to compete and keep up with the men. This is the real problem today.

    1. Whatmekneejerk? July 11, 2014 at 3:17 pm

      If you practice the art of critical thinking, the metaphorical lines he was drawing will become quick apparent.

  6. SonOfWhore July 11, 2014 at 10:55 am

    Feminists are gonna love this one.

  7. anon July 11, 2014 at 11:24 am

    A universal across cultures is that women want to sleep around, it is biological imperative. They are both polygamous and monogamous. In the ancient tribes, most women would get inseminated by all the tribe leaders, and the sperm would fight for impersonation inside the vagina. Since most women could not keep an alpha male to protect her and her children, they resorted to a dual mating strategy. Betas would raise the children of the alphas, and cuckoldry was the biological norm. This is why women form low intensity oxytocin bonds after 5 or so bangs. Most men did not reproduce, and since alphas and betas have the same emotions, we are repelled by female promiscuity because of the risk of raising another man’s child and not reproducing.
    An exception is when the girl falls in love (pairbonding or deep conversion). This is a hormone-based obsession similar to cocaine addiction. It only happens when an alpha male shows signs that he will raise the children (emotional signs, not speaking to the womans logical brain). It makes ssense for her to obsess, as this ddoesnt happen for most women and it is the best chance of her offspring surviving.

    Sluts can bond, but only if only are alpha and you provide stronger emotions than anyone before. The only diffTerence is that the bar is raised.

    1. Conrad Stonebanks July 11, 2014 at 11:37 am

      Men love idealistically, women love opportunistically. Doesn’t matter whether the woman in question is a virgin or a weathered slut. To a woman, an alpha male is like a Hermes handbag, while a beta male is one of those plastic things you get at the supermarket. To be used for their utility and then discarded.

    2. Smart Alex July 11, 2014 at 8:00 pm

      ” and the sperm would fight for impersonation inside the vagina”.

      Uhhh…what the hell does that mean? And please site reference(s) for ANY of the “info” in your first paragraph. Hint: “Out of one’s own ass” doesn’t count.

      1. Helper July 12, 2014 at 12:22 am

        See “Sex at Dawn”.

    3. Ternarydemon July 13, 2014 at 1:45 am

      This is why an abused women ends in love with its abuser and the average women gets wet for the alpha and bored with the beta.

      Such man is an alpha for her, and the level of emotion caused is higher than the one caused by other males. While a logical being would prefer a man who is loyal and dependable, pre-menopausic women are not logical and therefore gravitate towards the man who causes the greatest limbic stimulus. Nature balances this with the dual strategy of alpha sperm and beta provisioning.

      To be true, a macho who slaps, insults and fucks a woman for good, causes a greater feeling at a limbic level than the beta who tries to loves her and just wants a happy life. That is why our ancestors created rules to limit the number of sexual partners of women, thereby protecting family and society.

      Now, most western women grow up to be alpha widows. Add in the post-feminism culture and the welfare state, and most western women are simply not material for loving, but for fucking. Red pill men like us know this hurtful truth, and we have the option of adjusting our game to the circumstances, or going our own way.

    4. dawn-roxanne michelle June 25, 2015 at 4:09 pm

      men cheat at increasingly elevated rate over woman, searching for that alpha male heir. and in the first two lines, you don’t call it for what is was, which is rape.!!

  8. seth datta July 11, 2014 at 11:37 am

    I am going to propose something unheard of in these parts – that perhaps only at best, 3-4% of men are ‘responsible’/’normal’ and that THE SAME EXISTS FOR WOMEN. Sure, they have been created this way at much cost and disadvantage to men, BUT SUCH WOMEN EXIST. The problem is when you empower the other 96% of f*cktards through social policies designed to undermine a nation – since the vast majority of people lack long-term critical thinking, they will always make poor decisions that drag the 3-4% of ‘good decision makers’ down. Note that only 3-4% of people at a maximum fought the British in 1776, and that freedom for the many is always fought by the few – most people are not capable of maintaining a freedom that is hard fought for, by continuing to make responsible decisions.

    Feminism from its inception was always intended to break up the family unit and the bankers would fill up this power vacuum, since no political space can be left unattended. Western women as such, by weakening their and their menfolk’s power base, have resulted in a degenerate society compared to their ancestors, where the dumbification and manginification has resulted in many wars abroad, and mass immigration at home as other groups fill the vacuum and provide the children that these corporate byproducts do not. Western women, and especially older generations, whilst not completely at fault, must hold SOME BLAME, otherwise all of us can be said to have no free will; and if we are not responsible for our actions, then we should have no prisons any more and we can watch society burn if we take this ideology to its ultimate conclusion.

    The problem is – how do you fix it? Are we going to force western women, especially white women, to have the 2.1 children – they’ll just claim we’re oppressing them. Not only that, but you cannot undo the years of negative social programming and indoctrination they have – they’d make poor wives and mothers. Thus, will the white race be doomed to decline relative to others (at least in numbers) because of women’s choices? And will other groups undergo the same fate by embacing this toxic ideology, as opposed to say, adopting female positivism (which does not deny femininity and is not a banker orientated movement)?

    Talk is cheap and I post a lot, yet I also take actions to improve my future, however bleak a manner I may see the world. I know that in the west, we have a lot of upcoming conflicts that are international and domestic strife coming up. I hate how everyone is so blind and ,any use cognitive dissonance to stick their head in the sand as they d*ck around whilst things get worse year on year. In some ways, its better to be a f*ckwit like the vast majority of people, who do not want to wake up and will follow each other like lemmings off the cliff – being aware is painful. Heck, there are so many idiots, that they will potentially drag us all with them off that cliff.

    Finally, as with regards this article, life experience IMHO only benefits a few. Most people do not learn jack 5hit from their lives – we have a lot of older folk today who exist because of modern health care; not because they are so smart or because they have a lot of wisdom. They are in part responsible for the world we see today; though I have to wonder if our generation would have done differently – perhaps all of us are fools are human beings who are easily misled into perdition.

    I figure I will stop posting/post less and shorter as no change comes around this way. Its a good way of venting and feel like you’re doing something for the world, yet nothing changes and worse, things decline. I’ve learned that society does not care for righteousness – both social institutions and people. So i will only treat women well when they are young and/or they do something for me. I will only have their back when they have had mine. And i will only support my close family and perhaps one or two friends. Its amazing how the butterfly effect of marriage being dead can lead to society being dead. I think the men and women here will face a very tough time a decade from now; and the women will quickly learn as their wages go down and as society degenerates, that the only value they have is in that wet hole between their legs, unfortunately. These idiots have destroyed everything that was once good about the west.

    1. MystiKasT July 11, 2014 at 11:54 am

      I read every word. A good post man. The older generation has f’d us. I am 25 and the future looks bleak.

      1. Smart Alex July 11, 2014 at 8:19 pm

        “A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.”
        ― Winston Churchill

        Yes the world and society has problems but in MANY MANY ways it is improving and better than it ever has been. Don’t fall for the “woe is me” negativity bullshit (it’s like cancer to your soul)…and DON’T lay blame for your plight at the feet of others….else you are TRULY fucked for life.

        The world is also an amazing place with great people to be met, adventures to be had, and fortunes to be won.

        It’s your choice which one you will live in

    2. Black French July 11, 2014 at 1:12 pm

      My friend,
      If any of us was part of the 3-4% elite, we would be athletes, top scientists, successful businessmen, etc and young beautiful females would be throwing themselves at us. We are just reformed betas hoping to upgrade. For now, we shoukd show some modesty.

      1. seth datta July 11, 2014 at 7:45 pm

        I can’t believe your post got 4 upvotes because you are misinformed if you believe the ‘elite’ are better than us. Apart from athletes who have genetic ability, the rest like top scientists and successful businessmen are MADE by the ‘elite’ and their economic-political system. They are not superior, just have good connections with the ‘elite’ and follow the orders they are given without question. The best people are never seen as they threaten the ‘elite’, for the best would then make humans free and not dependent upon these elite scum, so the elite actively try to keep these people down. You never hear of them as the elite run the media and just about everything else, and not just in the west, but the world.

        For sure, there once was a time when the elite was the best, but they for the last few decades are only best at cheating and keeping the knowledge of this system of beating the system (because they run it) to themselves. They are also great at planning how to hand down generational wealth whilst everyone else get taxed. You can show modesty as they make you a slave, then get rid of you like some insect. I’m deciding not to follow you and go a different path.

      2. Danny Hurst June 24, 2015 at 8:48 am

        I always say….the people who actually have the power to change things simply won’t. Why? Because why should they….the system worked for them.

      3. The Lion King July 28, 2014 at 12:00 pm

        this whole world is a giant playground. The true elites, the true alphas of society, I don’t think you can see them.
        If I was a true elite and I litterally had the world as my oyster, I would make sure everyone is pussified, degenerate, valueless and constantly distracted. So no one dares to challenge me. And those that dare to rise up against their slave masters would be severely chastised. Even better, their cellmates would chastise them.
        Us former betas should get to the alpha state as fast as possible, in secrecy. You don’t want to make yourself visible to the prison guards and paid informers (white knights, feminists, manginas).
        Even the top businessmen, athletes and all, are just some priviledged slaves and gladiators used up by the rulers hiding somewhere fucking the best of women through their supply chain for pleasure with a devoted wife for child bearing. Elites have useful connections, doesn’t mean they’ll share the throne though.

    3. Whatmekneejerk? July 11, 2014 at 3:21 pm

      You must continue to post, as long as you are critically thinking you are making a difference. Not all people have to agree with you to justify your thought process.

    4. Aurini July 11, 2014 at 8:59 pm

      I liked that mental image – we’re stuck in a herd heading for a cliff, trying desperately to jump out, but the herd keeps dragging us along.

    5. Daniel Thompson July 12, 2014 at 12:55 am

      Uggh, I always hear this alarmist nonsense about the ‘decline of the white race’.

      People have to realise that there is virtually zero chance of whites becoming extinct in the near future, or even of anything more than a modest, relative decline in their numbers.

      Yes, economic development has seen birth rates plummet in the western world, but such a thing is happening the world over. Already a number of Asian countries – Japan and South Korea for instance, have birth rates lower than most western countries. Xenophobia over there has also severely restricted immigration, meaning that their populations are already on the verge of shrinking. Japan could have only a third as many people as it does now by the end of the century.

      Even in the rest of Africa and Asian however, birth rates are already declining. The world’s population should just about stabilize at around 10 billion people from mid-century. By 2100 there will be about 4 1/2 billion Asians, 4 billions Africans and 1 1/2 billion people in Europe, the Americas and Australia. The white portion of the global population will be 10-15%, down from 25% in the early 20th century.

      It should be realized however, that this is just a return to the historical norm, before Europe’s industrialization shot it ahead of the rest of the world. In 600AD Europe made up less than 20 million of the world’s 200 million people, and as late as 1500 it was 50 million out of 400 million.

      We’ve always been a minority. The last few centuries were an aberration. Deal with it.

  9. MystiKasT July 11, 2014 at 11:50 am

    Good stuff bro

  10. Awesome Possum July 11, 2014 at 1:33 pm

    This is one of your greatest posts yet, Roosh. Thanks for the insights. I will be forwarding this to female friends and ex-girlfriends. (Pearls before the swine, I know, but oh well)

  11. spentcasings July 11, 2014 at 1:52 pm

    The women who escape the bitterness are those who never join the carousel and who have jobs that are not overly demanding and taxing. Failing to join the carousel, they don’t pursue casual sex. Working at jobs that don’t leave them stressed out, they can relax more. Their experiences with these don’t leave them jaded.

    1. Conrad Stonebanks July 11, 2014 at 2:32 pm

      Today there are few women who do not ride the carousel in their twenties. They only appear to differ in the speed in which carousel turns. For some, it’s a slow ride, for others, it turns at warp speed.

  12. anon July 11, 2014 at 2:56 pm

    so inherently, one sex becomes vurtuous and stronger through expierience while the other tends to become bitter and corrupt just because not all women stay at home anymore? if that’s not some failed ass logic, i dont know what is. every human being has different experiences. there are temptations that can lead to corruption and also good experiences that can lead to growth in both sexes. its not just men that can be virtuous. its not just women that can turn out bitter based on things in life. the fact that women go out into the world doesnt make them any more or less corrupt than anyone. its them whoring around, not taking care of themselves, and hoarding after meaningless materials that leave them corrupt and pathetic human beings, something that could happen to ANY human being, so get it straight and get off your high horse. sorry but if you want to say only women turn out bad and bitter because of life experience and never get anything good out, then you and many other guys whining about how horrible women are should look in the mirror. how many guys here are bitter towards women because they’ve had one to many whores in their life,and entitled immature gold digging bitches, (and sadly those whores are many) and as a result now think all women are whores or something to be controlled because of all those negative things, and in order to prevent them? not all experiences build virtue or other good qualities. not all experiences build bitterness. a woman can choose to take care of herself and not be a whore even though she has something in the world that she does for a living while enjoying life. (and sadly this species is nearly extinct) she just has to be open and vulneralbe with her man alongside, and its too bad that most of you here believe that that not doable because it is. because a women enjoys life doesnt make her selfish and corrupt. if shes going to hold the immature attiude of “im entitled and deserve everything with out working for it, and im going to fuck every guy i see” and have no self respect, then thats a different story. no human finds that valuable in either sex….in their right mind that is.

    1. lumpykiwi July 11, 2014 at 3:06 pm

      Classic case of NAWALT.

      1. anon July 11, 2014 at 3:18 pm

        I know alot believe that, and i expected such a response. but let me tell you people something. The man im with now is the best thing that ever happened to me. we have been together for almost 3 years. we met on a dating site. he was here in the netherlands and i was in texas. ive come althe way here to live with him just to have a life together, and hes the only guy ive had sex with and its because i want to spend my life with old fasioned that way (the good waylol) 24. i take care of myself and enjoy being attractive for him, and am completely loyal. no i will never want another dick inside me..the thought of another is repulsive. we have never cheated on one another. my occupation is a welder. i worled my ass off saving up to 8thousand a month just so i could come here last year and start alife with him after over a year of not being physically together after the second temporary visit. i’ve just gotten a new job and we will have our own house soon. if a girl would not be willing to fly over an ocean for you (figuratively and literally), learn a whole new language, and literally shed blood sweat and tears just to help contribute to the relationship..FUCK HER shes a ho. fine call me a troll and dont believe me, you guys dont have to. it just seems like a really painful mindset to believe that people like this dont exist anymore..and i know cus ive been there.

      2. Smart Alex July 11, 2014 at 8:46 pm

        “ive come althe way here to live with him just to have a life together, and hes the only guy ive had sex with and its because i want to spend my life with old fasioned that way (the good waylol) 24. i take care of myself and enjoy being attractive for him, and am completely loyal. no i will never want another dick inside me..the thought of another is repulsive”

        You do realize you’ve essentially validated most of the points in Roosh’e article, right? And by the way if this is true, then you’re one of the good ones because you lack experience.

      3. anon July 12, 2014 at 10:01 am

        if you are talking about sexual experience i concurr. i am proud that i lack exp sexually and want to be boud to one person in life. the more sexual xp someone has the more of a turnoff it is, and that is a point i’m sure i validated, not to mention agree with. my very first comment was talking about experiencing things in life in general.

    2. Carlos July 11, 2014 at 10:30 pm

      Logic is the study and application of correct inferences. An inference is a both the process of reasoning and its product, nothing more. It is logically appropriate for Roosh to categorize human experience into male and female, for both sexes have distinct life experiences. There are elements that each category share, as the sum of all individual experiences, in a vaster proportion than the other. Your argument relies on the existence of outliers. Yes, some men will grow bitter from life experience. And yes, some women will be empowered. These cases are the exception, however; they are not the norm.

      1. anon July 12, 2014 at 10:46 am

        “Yes, some men will grow bitter from life experience. And yes, some women will be empowered. These cases are the exception, however; they are not the norm.”
        i disagree. every man and woman i have met(or at least got the chance to know for awhile and talk to) has grown for the better or worse to some degree based on different things they have experienced in life. so based on what i have observed up till now i dont think there is an exception, although emotionally men and women can have a tendancy to react differently to situations. i believe that growing bitter or stronger through struggle depends on the persons mindset, and even whether or not they where spoiled as kids or were taught to work for what they wanted and needed. if you are given everything you ever wanted at whim as a kid you will turn out whiney and bitter as an adult if things dont go your way. male or female. those kind of muscles IMO also have to be built when young, or you will have trouble in adulthood, because its the way life is..not always YOUR way.

  13. Omar July 11, 2014 at 3:02 pm

    This relates to the fact that men with facial scars, or scars in general, are seen as more attractive. Women on the other hand, are less attractive with scars.

  14. Aleenum July 11, 2014 at 6:28 pm

    I have to disagree with two points :
    1.That nature has intentions.
    2. That tribal women were monogamous.

  15. Anti July 11, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    I mentioned in a previous post, your video about life dissatisfaction, that you’ve experienced too much life. Now I’m not saying you are replying directly to me. That would be too egotistical of myself to feel such.

    Yet i must engage this. Cause I think it engages with my own views. Your case is that more experience means a more enriched life for a man. I completely agree. With one thing….

    What is the point of an enriched life, Roosh, if there is no legacy to pass it on to? I understand you’ve written books, you are profiled on the SPLC website (not a snipe – if the SPLC says something against, I read towards), and you have legions of followers. That is passing it down in a sense. It is powerful. But it isn’t the same thing as the primal desire to see your flesh and blood live on without you. Ideas… yes, they come and go… but our genetic legacy lives on if we propagate. Crossing the two, there is a chance that our ideas will live on with our children. It will give them a guide to live right in a world that is wrong. This will only provide a bulwark against feminism and the detritus of the modern world.

    Ideas that will live on not only in your genetic offspring, but also in their intellectual spirit.

    1. Anti July 11, 2014 at 6:49 pm

      The more I think:

      A man’s life is enriched when he has experienced to satisfaction life. HIs knowledge is accumulated within him. That information becomes valued wisdom.

      An unhappy man is the one who has experienced few things, which is assumed as accomplishing nothing. Regret is the only thing he offers.

      Both have their value in that they offer lessons on how to live. Neither gives anything worthwhile to the next generation of men and women if they do not have any children or wisdom to offer.. unless… they have something famous to remember them which. Men like this exist in a small minority of all the world’s offerings.

      An enriched man with no genetic legacy is the same as the man with no experience but a genetic legacy. Both equal the same outcome: nothing to offer.

  16. ray July 11, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    ‘When a man works difficult jobs, faces illness or poverty, struggles with a new language, or faces long bouts of sexual loneliness despite his best efforts, his muscles are being exerted. These situations are not favorable to his mind, but they turn him into steel. He becomes more capable of enduring pain and difficulty. He becomes full of wisdom, stories, and knowledge. He becomes more attractive to the opposite sex, and more knowledgeable about how to give women what they want.’
    That’s excellent advice for your youthful readership. There is NO free pass to becoming a man, nor to attracting females. These things TAKE TIME and effort, often many decades. No free pass includes Game. Game is an attempted short-cut to manhood, and short-cuts only regress men, or trap them in stasis. Artifice and pretending does not facilitate growth.
    Of course we all want to hear that there’s a short-cut, including boys and young men. Half of consumer-society runs on (preys on) this weakness. It’s a fallen aspect of our collective natures. But telling guys the less-welcome truth serves them much better.

    1. Smart Alex July 11, 2014 at 8:39 pm

      I agree with most of your post. The exception being “Game is an attempted short-cut to manhood, and short-cuts only regress men, or trap them in stasis. Artifice and pretending does not facilitate growth” If you truly understand the principles of Game you would know that is a TOOL for growth not a shortcut…unless you believe that ALL learning from others’ experiences is a “short cut that doesnt facillitate growth”?

  17. An Insightful Introvert July 11, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    Not only is your article offensive, but I also strongly disagree with your generalizations as well. At the end of the day, you have to look at people as individuals, even though there are psychological differences between both genders. What you said about how women respond to their negative experiences can also be applied to men as well. Some men are able to get over their negative experiences, learn from it, and move on while others are not. I have personally come across men who dwell on their negative experiences and are not able to let go of them!

    1. Netherlands July 11, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      Shut the fuck up.

    2. Carlos July 11, 2014 at 10:35 pm

      Even if this is the case, that the generalizations are inappropriate, the main thrust of Roosh’s article still stands. Us young men have to earn our lot, even if it is a minority of us. We have no choice. Either we earn our lot or live a marginalized life.

      1. Smart Alex July 12, 2014 at 12:26 am

        Word!… motherfucker!

    3. Smart Alex July 12, 2014 at 12:24 am

      The men that experience difficulties in life and don’t grow from overcoming them are….well…irrelevant. Everyone will encounter challenges in life. EVERYONE. What one does at the crossroads of those challenges is what defines us. That’s the point. Roosh’s article is not so much about a generality as much as a self fulfilling maxim about character. GENERALLY speaking women who have experienced the consequences of their poor, society induced, choices fare worse…generally speaking.

  18. Moosik85 July 11, 2014 at 10:40 pm

    This 100% true.

    Look at before/ after photos of US soldiers that have done tours in Iraq. They leave looking like boys and come back as men.

    The opposite is for women. We want an untouched gem not some hag that’s had more cocks then a Thai hooker.

  19. Alfalfa July 11, 2014 at 11:05 pm

    I agree. I have been thinking along the same lines, though I rarely speak these thoughts out loud because of the emotional responses I will most likely invoke.

    But yes – in my experience very few women grow older & wiser. Sometimes they grow more anxious over time. Usually just older.

  20. Ain'tIAWoman? July 12, 2014 at 5:01 am

    You seem to be confused about history…..

    Since the beginning of time women have worked to help sustain their homes. We worked in the fields, we worked in the factories, and even in the dawn of creation we went out and gathered things! The idea that woman have never worked outside the home and that her sole task is to care for kids as a stay at home mom of some sort is actually a pretty new idea (IE last 200-300 years or so) and was only possible among the wealthy. My grandmother, she worked. She could neither read nor write (so no not a feminist), but she struggled for her daily bread with her husband hundreds of miles away getting the only work he could. They were a dual income family because to do otherwise was to starve. My great grandmother she worked as a share cropper in the deep south.

    Also this post kind of discredits all the matriarchal societies, and there were quite a few of those especially among the Native Americans.

    1. BernieGoetzFan July 12, 2014 at 2:30 pm

      There has never been a matriarchal society in the history of the world. All primitive societies had the strictest of sex roles. Complete feminist nonsense.

      1. Ain'tIAWoman? July 13, 2014 at 8:20 am

        First off I am not a feminist. Secondarily several Native American tribes would probably disagree with that statement gender roles have not been solid across history or geography.

        The Haida people of the Northwest were a true matriarchy.

        The Lenape were a tribe that followed maternal not paternal lines, this made more logical sense if you think about it because pre-DNA test how on earth did you prove who fathered someone?

        The Apache although not strictly matriarchal could be seen as kind of practical egalitarian they taught both men and women to cook, hunt, and fight. They knew life might sometimes call on you to have skills that might not be considered your regular task.

        The idea that women, or even men have always lived the way things are is simply not he case. There was a time in which Roosh V could be hung in the public square for what he was doing, after all in the time period he seems so obsessed with a daughter was her fathers property and he would be considered stealing to have sex without that mans permission. I am sure despite his claims he doesn’t really want to go back to that time period were he actually has to purchase female contact from a father. There was a time in which it was believed not only would learning to read overheat my brain and cause possible death, but that I was 3/5ths a human and it was legal in the US to sell me. What it means to be something is largely dependent on where you are and when you live.

      2. BernieGoetzFan July 13, 2014 at 11:10 am

        Why were there no female chiefs or warriors in Indian societies? It is only in modern Western societies where you see some relaxation of gender roles. And that is simply due the feminism.
        Read “The Inevitability of Patriarchy” by Goldberg and you will see that wild claims of primitive tribes being matriarchal are either made up or exaggerated.

      3. Ain'tIAWoman? July 13, 2014 at 6:07 pm

        There were female Native American leaders. There was Anne of the Paunchy Tribe of Virginia in 1656 and Awashonks of the Wampanoag tribe in 1600’s. These are just two of the ones we have a written account of today. For an example even you should be familiar with even though she is French not Native American Joan De Arc lead her people in battle.

        The funny thing about reality is, it exists regardless of your opinion on the matter. Yes woman work, yes women lead. They have done both throughout history.

      4. BernieGoetzFan July 13, 2014 at 6:39 pm

        A few female leaders do not change the fact of patriarchy. Europe has had some female queens but was it not still a male dominated society throughout its history? Same with the various Indian tribes.

    2. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 4:07 am

      I agree with you. All my maternal elders worked. My great-great grandmother worked with her husband on their farm. My great grandmother was a school teacher. My grandmother was waitress. My mother worker many odd jobs, she even once worked as a shoe shiner. Not one woman in my family was a feminist. They were too busy raising children and contributing to their households to care about what Gloria Steinem said about womanhood.

      1. Robert What? July 13, 2014 at 1:58 pm

        I think the point is that your grandmother, great grandmother, etc, worked as a way to help sustain their families. Not for “self realization”.

      2. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 2:45 pm

        Feminism is a rich bitch problem. Women in the middle class and lower class have not benefited. Only thing feminism did was force those women out of the home. They really did not have a choice. This seems to get left out of the debate.

      3. Lee July 13, 2014 at 6:45 pm

        All this gender relations talk is giving me a headache. Can you not see the bonds of all around you? The Rockefellers and Rothschilds got women into corporate wage slavery in the 60s so the system could tax two incomes and have the kids to be brainwashed at school. So you have generations of innocent children being taught about life from the system and cable tv as opposed to Mom and grandmas knee. It’s awful and shame on our forebearers for not liberating us all from this non sense.

      4. Ain'tIAWoman? July 13, 2014 at 5:55 pm

        What do you think women are working for today? For giggles? My mother worked so she and my father could keep a roof over their children’s heads. I am working so I can get a better job so I can afford to feed the children I would like to raise. Does it suck that I have to do, this well sure. However no guy is lining up outside to marry and support me. I don’t want to die of old age waiting on him. If a guy was willing to marry me, and let me stay home and keep a house I would be happy to do that, but I have to live with the reality that I find myself in.

      5. Ouroborosidiot July 14, 2014 at 1:43 am

        Not just that… What kind of irrational person would one have to be to argue against……

        “Honey, You slog for 10 hours a day and probably even over time to keep the money coming in, let me share your responsibility and help you out, instead of sitting at home with the couch glued to my ass and my eyes glued to the TV”

        But again whenever a femzombie argues about the “right to work”, “being a career woman”… I toooootally cringe…… Since when exactly did the *responsibility* to work become a right to work?

        I think the culprit here are the femzombies, who painted women’s traditional gender role as sitting at home doing nothing but serving the the man and popping out babies, while being completely oblivious to the changing (value of these) roles due to technology, urbanization, economy etc…

        just my 2 cents…

  21. desbest July 12, 2014 at 7:29 am

    Feminists will never, ever stop complaining and demanding new and more restrictive laws on men…….ever. No matter what men do, or don’t do, they just keep finding cause to cry foul, and it will never end. No amount of appeasement will satisfy them. They are addicted to crying
    victim and nothing will stop t hem doing it. Each generation of women
    grows weaker and weaker, and more and more intolerant and sensitive.

    Feminism was supposed to be about strong women, instead what we have is a generation of women raised on victimhood who are so weak and pathetic and traumatized by every little thing that they can’t stand up in a
    slight breeze. They need propping up and protecting in every way, from
    every little thing. It’s going to get to the point where a woman can’t
    even breath on her own.

    They will literally need to live lives wrapped up in cotton wool on life support systems where everything in their environments is kept at absolute perfection or it will be totally intolerable for them.

    I have some news for all you whiny women.
    You become strong by having to endure, and put up with things. You
    become tolerant by exposure. This is why men are stronger then women to begin with, because we had to be, because we had to do the heavy
    lifting for ourselves, as well as for you, and the children. You don’t
    become strong, physically, mentally, or emotionally, by having every
    little thing that annoys you removed, and being protected from the
    slightest inconvenience……that….is how you grow weak and pathetic.
    You don’t become tolerant by being able to reject or silence, or censor
    everyone else’s view and opinions to protect your delicate little
    feelings…….this is how you become a narrow minded bigot who thinks
    your way is the only way that should be allowed…..for anybody, not
    just yourself.

    This is what feminism has turned you into. A weak, pathetic, physical, mental, and emotional cripple, who needs to be protected and provided for in every way…..and can’t even stand a small annoyance without thinking the world must stop and devote it’s resources to removing that for you.

    If feminism is successful in continuing this bullshit, the future for women will be a pack of basket cases who are totally dependent on men. Grown women who are like little babies who can’t do anything for themselves, and merely cry every time they perceive any sort of discomfort, be it physical or mental or emotional.

    That is evolution. Whatever abilites are not needed, are disposed off. You know, you can’t get strong by sending someone else down the gym to lift weights for you…..what happens is that you get weak, and they get strong. This applies to mental and physical and emotional strength and tolerance too. You women are the equals of total couch potatoes who think you can get fit watching footy.

    Do you know why it’s like that? It’s because men are the resource creators who create wealth and families (fatherless families are much more likely to go to prison or commit suicide than motherless ones), females are the resource extractors who use their sexual prowess to demand for female exclusive colleges, breast cancer research, gender biased rape laws, extract love in exchange for their vaginas (while men do real work to get sex but all a woman does is be born a female) and use feminism to destroy the family unit. This is why women are more oppressive than men in Western society. Why is feminism strongest in countries where there’s equality. It is because women do not like equality, and they prefer chivalry where men do everything they can to serve them.

  22. R bere July 12, 2014 at 11:30 am

    Sometimes, when I become disheartened and think girls don’t like me, or I’m not too valuable, I think of all the things I’ve done in my life….interactions with people, and my general character. My self confidence returns.
    I’ve worked in the oil fields of Texas during college..the night and day when storms raged. Slinging a sledge hammer….connecting pipes and hoses from trucks to the drill pipe. Hard hats, Mexican workers along side me, mud caked on boots and uniforms. Dust and heat in the air. Gazing across the plains of west texas as far as the eye could see.
    I worked on an offshore oil rig during a summer in college. Helicopters in and out. lowered on the crane to the tug boat to help unload the food. The smell of diesel in the morning as the oil machinery pumped day and night. Rough joking and ribbing from gruff country boy oilfield types. Giving as good as I’m getting.
    I got a degree in engineering from my university. I’ve passed the series 7 and am now a successful financial advisor making 6 figures. I’ve deer hunted many times….walking into the woods alone in pitch black morning darkness. Going a mile in and then climbing up a tree with my tree stand. Watching the deer and hogs run underneath me as first light illuminates the woods of Mississippi. Arrowing deer with my compound bow. Dragging them out.
    I’ve seduced and loved women. I’ve been engaged, broken up with.. I’ve been married, divorced. I’ve made beautiful women moan, laugh and cry.
    I’ve been called out in public by a long lost friend who remembered my value. I’ve had stitches and broken bones. A broken hand from a fight.
    I’ve beat down a bully who only an hour before beat me down. Decided to pay him a return visit after an encouraging talk.
    I’ve traveled all over the USA and south America. I’ve made friends laugh. I’ve prevented people from being hurt. Stopped a friend from walking into an oncoming car. While squirrel hunting, I’ve prevented another friend from accidentally shooting a father and child in the woods as he did not see them through the brush…..last minute kind of deal.
    I’ve been caught in a storm in the gulf of Mexico….my friend and I in a boat too small. Pitched and tossed in 5 foot seas…waves coming overboard…lightining and heavy rain down upon us…. ….coming to the point of thinking this may very well be our death.
    I’ve introduced and also been the reason that one of my friends met his current wife. As a result, they had children. Their marriages and children exist because of me.
    I’ve been in car wrecks and automobile situations that should have resulted in severe injury or worse….but didn’t.
    I continue to date attractive women.
    I currently struggle with a chronic health condition but am making headway. I generally keep it to myself.
    I’ve won contests. Came in first place. One I did three years in a row. I’ve lost close games. Football as a youth. Once a defeat so crushing I and many others on our team cried as we shook the hands of the other team after the game. Looking into my friend’s eyes from the other team…telling him only congratulations.
    Much more I’m sure as there is for all of you. These are some of the things I think about when I feel down knowing I am strong, have value and wisdom and that give me character.

    1. Zenramid July 12, 2014 at 3:12 pm

      That sounds like a life well lived, may it be so untill the end 🙂

  23. KL July 12, 2014 at 11:46 am

    “It’s uncomfortable and causes discomfort”


  24. Gary July 12, 2014 at 1:01 pm

    Damn I was in process of writing article about this.

    Good article; the metaphors are excellent.

  25. Zenramid July 12, 2014 at 3:06 pm

    I’ve also noticed that.
    I’ve observed how women around my age (29) no longer have ‘that light’ in them (and btw. I’m from Poland). They are more bitter, cold, calculative. The reason for that I believe is women’s memory. Women have much greater memory than men, especially for everyday details and human interaction. That’s why all the pain they’ve experienced builts up inside them and dims them inside, while men are much more capable of forgetting, letting go and moving on.

    I do not, however, believe that women should try to remain ‘innocent girls’ as soon as possible. Yes, it is what we, men instinctivly want in women, we want them to be both our lovers and proteges, it is wired in our nature. But it is also a trap. It is the cause of relationships where man loves more. The protector always is the one that loves the protege more than the other way around.
    As much as it corresponds to our nature, I believe it’s less than the love men deserve as human beings.

    I think, that we as the manosphere have a two-step task to make. Firstly, and most importantly, we have to help men survive in the present world, and become better, successful men that can live happy, satisfactory lifes. Secondly, I think we should guide women into becoming the best as they can as human beings. After milennias of human history, the technology finally made it possible for both of our sexes to expand from our boundries and become what previously only few very lucky ones could. I think we should find a way for women to embrace all the virtues of humanity, because a path to that goal is the only one that will enable women to see men as full human beings and love them unconditionally. There is no other way to that but through wisdom and clearly an eternal cheerful child that many of men would like women to remain, is not a being that could provide a man with a love he would wish to be loved with.

  26. T-Rex July 12, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    Apart from the biological laws of the sexual market value, which dictate that (good-looking) females are attributed extremely high value from an early age which leaves them with the “broken hardware” of entitlement and lack of willpower for the rest of their lifes, Testosterone seems to allow males to heal (and overcompensate) from emotional trauma.

    I really could imagine it’s testosterone. What are your thoughts?

    Btw. how can one apply to access the Roosh V Forum?

    1. Man pippy July 26, 2014 at 10:07 am

      Actually testosterone doesn’t help with emotional trauma. Testosterone causes more risk taking behavior which in turn increases levels of cortisol designed to help us deal with stress which has now been linked with depression. So it seems the more testosterone the higher likelihood of having too much cortisol and falling into depression. This is in addition to the immune system suppression effects. Seems to me testosterone is a very physically and psychologically costly hormone, which men have evolved to have anyway cause of it enhancing the survival of the human species as a whole. (Not the male individual)

      The idea that testosterone helps us heal from emotional trauma is probably a myth, post traumatic stress disorder seems to back this up, as it’s development is inevitable over time unless the person is allowed a period of relaxation.

  27. scratche July 12, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    I agree with almost all of this except that women don’t belong in an office. An office environment is great for women and terrible for men. As a society we should model ourselves after native tribes that had females do the busy work while the men did the hunting. Females did the vast majority of the work in tribal culture and men did what only a man could do – hunt, fight, protect, etc. What is not to like about that? Of course the pay rate would have to change to value blue-collar work more than it currently is valued. Truth is there are a ton of women getting degrees in business administration, communications, accounting, all the crap that office workers need. They are getting the jobs anyway so just go with the flow and let the paradigm shift. I assure you that having a white-collar job in an office is not something that makes a man feel masculine, it crushes a man’s spirit. Women, on the other hand, tend to thrive in an office environment that is filled with tedious rules and a strict code of conduct.

  28. The Professor July 12, 2014 at 10:01 pm


    The reality of long term mate selection provides overwhelming evidence that this argument is fatally flawed at its core. Even men with nearly unlimited options in women are very often willing to sacrifice quite a lot of youth and beauty for skill and experience in a long term partner. It therefore logically follows that there is tremendous pragmatic value for a woman to gain a wide range of experience even if she’s not as good as a man at obtaining it (especially since her attraction wanes by the day). Brad Pitt chooses Angelina Jolie because she’s far more valuable to him as a partner than the hottest 18 year old piece of ass in Hollywood, who he could have also probably married if he had wanted to.

    Naturally the most beautiful women can get away with having less experience, but it doesn’t diminish the fact she could be significantly more attractive if she could sing, speak french, and hold an interesting conversation. Laziness is deplorable in both genders. For every beautiful entitled woman there is a good looking guy twiddling his thumbs hoping another woman is going to approach. If you want to help others understand human psychology it makes absolutely no sense to cast one dimensional personal preferences over the entire human race and imply it is gospel.

    1. greyghost1 August 11, 2014 at 11:15 am

      Angelina is cheaper and has the one quality he was looking for she wanted family (kids) Bad example

  29. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 4:35 am

    “men risk their lives to ensure the survival of his children and his tribe.”

    Ha ha, Roosh. Have you ever risked your life? Have you ever experienced fatherhood? Have you dedicated yourself to being a husband? Have you ever written anything that was virtuous or moral?

    You write books about banging women and live for yourself. Is there anybody in the world who depends on you for their survival?

    1. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 2:48 pm

      Women don’t need to defend on men anymore. Government and corporate America are the new sources of bread, pets are the new children, and iphones are the new homes to be maintained (“Good Housekeeping” magazine is almost certainly less read than any SWPL Apple site.)

      And when all of that isn’t enough, you can go to your priest (therapist) and receive white women’s holy communion (Prozac).

      So what use is a man to a woman, even a high value man like Roosh? And the beta males? They’re FUCKED (in every way but the way they should be).

      All of this has resulted in a dying white race of bizarrely and grossly asexual young people.

      1. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 3:05 pm

        High value? Are you kidding me? Roosh is a very selfish man. I see nothing he offers women. Does he have a home? Does he have a real job? Does he have a good reputation? Does he have qualities that would make him a good life partner? Does he give to charity? Does he volunteer his time to help another human in need?

      2. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 3:12 pm

        Sounds like you know a lot more about his private life than I do. If you want to go on a date with him, drop him a line, don’t start asking me about him. I don’t know him.

        I was responding in the broad sense: this article was assuming that a society is arranged around natural, traditional sex roles. The USA is not. The West is not.

        So, you were saying that, if a man does have life experiences, and is dedicated, and does provide….that he will have a loving and dedicated wife. This is false. He will not. He will be lucky to even get laid once in a while, nevermind have a good woman to bear his children and maintain his home for the rest of his life.

      3. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 3:25 pm

        You must not know what a rhetorical question is, but don’t worry, you can look it up on google.

        This article does not speak for the entire West or the USA. Roosh, the manosphere, and the MRA all preach about how men are discarded from society. How they are not longer the head of the household and no longer needed. But nobody seems to have a game plan about how men are suppose to reclaim the masculine stature in life. Banging a bunch of women is not reclaiming that stature. Building and repairing communities build that stature. Donating your time builds that stature. Seeking a life partner builds that stature. Becoming a father builds that stature. Taking care of you family and your children builds that stature. Being selfish and only living for yourself helps nobody. But I guess that is the point?

      4. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 3:33 pm

        lol at non-ironic use of hilariously circular logic.

        “Men live in a society where women don’t even have sex and have no use to marry a man….and so the solution for men is to marry a woman who will love them.”

        Your solution is just stating the problem.

        Having said that….I’m a traditionalist, and ultimately I am on the same page as you. But as long as women value their Prozac, iPhones, and animals more than home and hearth, the problems will persist.

        Here’s a wonderful article by a strong white woman:

      5. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 3:44 pm

        “Women: raise your family, make your food, keep your house and our ways.
        Men: take care of your family, bring home that bacon, protect your home
        and our ways.”

        Good article. I don’t think anything is going to improve unless the battle of the sexes are ended. Women and men are not equal. They are complimentary. Each gender has strengths and weaknesses. Feminists are playing up feminine and masculine weaknesses for the purpose of equality. Instead of playing up feminine and masculine strengths to build partnerships and families. I don’t see the manopshere building up those strengths within themselves or encouraging women to do the same.

      6. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 4:12 pm

        The truth is always good. RoK and Roosh routinely write truthfully about substantial matters which help men directly (diet and exercise advice, for instance). But even when Roosh or the RoK writers are writing about superficially decadent things (trying to get one night stands), I can tell you that the truth within those tales is actually far more instructive for modern men than is a thousand articles from the mainstream media.

        I believe that this is very important to understand: Everything Western men are taught about women is a lie. Everything. We are taught that women are turned on by men who worship them (every single pop song I heard growing up). We are taught that women just want us to be sweet and honest and they will repay us with loyalty and love. We are even taught that women have wild sex drives and that, if we just make decent money and are kind and sweet, we will have tons of sex with smoking hot babes, just like the guys in ‘Knocked Up’ and on all the sitcoms.

        These bullshit messages are presented universally and endlessly. Every movie, pop singer, TV series, and mainstream media personality says the exact same bullshit.

        So, when a 30 year-old man stumbles across Roosh, Heartiste, or any other man who implicitly asks them the penultimate questions: “So how’s that American message working out for you?”, and the answer is, invariably, “Not too fucking well.”, you want to learn what the hell will actually work. The truth might superficially seem dark at a glance – it might be mixed with sexual deviancy and cultural misanthropy, but those things are far more pure and moral than the ugly reality we faced when the USA lead us to sexless, childless lives of jacking off to internet porn for years on end.

        (I should note here that learning “Game” is only one of many complete breaks from modern culture that I’ve adopted. For instance, I’ve also learned that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol and great for you, and so I have tons of bacon, eggs, whole milk, cheeseburgers, and other things that I was taught were “Heart attacks on a plate!” by the media and schools.)

        I’m also a white nationalist (I want white people to have a homeland of our own, just like Israel for the Jews and China for the Chinese; both are constitutional ethnostates) and as it’s clear that the white race is rapidly dying out (, I know that we can’t survive if we don’t figure out a way to resume having robust, virile families.

        So men and women need to get healthy, get fucking, make healthy children, raise them to be strong and proud, and let the circle of life continue on.

        So when I see asexual white women zombie-ing themselves with Prozac and fragmenting their mind with iPhones and wasting their lovely maternal strength on fucking cats….I get frustrated, and I want answers. Roosh and the manosphere provide them.

        Concurrently, you might be annoyed that so many men around you are listless, or bloated, or just don’t show any serious interest in pursuing you. You can refer them to Roosh and Heartiste, tell them to look into the paleo diet and to the NoFap community, and that might help them.

        But lies don’t help anybody. And the USA and the American media is the biggest lie of all.

      7. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 4:23 pm

        “Everything Western men are taught about women is a lie.”

        I don’t disagree at all. It is very true. But you have to realize that everything young women are taught about being a woman is a lie as well. Young girls and women are taught this corrupted version of femininity. They were told to got to school, build a career, then look for a husband and have children.

        They are taught they have to compete with men and vuild a career. If they don’t the are not ambitious or they are weak willed. Then women go to school, take on thousands of student debt, and push the starting line of having a family further back.

        In the end most women will do this and not be financially able to have kids until they are past 30. It is a complete waste of time for women. Especially if they are starting a career for financially stability to get married and have kids. Feminist dogma has turned women into debt slaves. This is what is happening to young Millennials women.

      8. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 4:32 pm

        I agree entirely – women are lied to, as well. What you wrote syncs up with all the points made across the manosphere.

        It’s funny because I always say, “If a system leads to evolutionary failure, then that system is a failure.” And nothing can ensure evolutionary failure more than commanding women to not bear children when they’re at childbearing age!

        So it seems like you were doing a bit of posing in your original comment opposing this article. Were you just trying to ruffle some feathers and get a response?

        e-mail me at [email protected]

      9. Stephanie Shepard July 13, 2014 at 4:41 pm

        Nope, not trying to ruffle feathers. Just pointing out that women need men who are marriage and father material. I understand men have a long ways to go. But perpetuating the gender wars doesn’t solve problems. Currently there is a stalemate that is going to worsen the quality of life of the youth. Our birthrates are already at an historic low. Even worse than during the great depression. This is a great economic problem.

      10. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 4:54 pm

        Game and the manosphere are very good because they’re centered around direct and actionable self-improvement: get healthy. Clean yourself up. Be confident. Learn to talk to girls.

        Focusing on larger social phenomena involving millions or billions of people can be instructive and even necessary, but most of the time one is powerless about large matters and it is best to just focus on oneself.

        If there are young men in your life – brothers, boyfriends, or even the dreaded beta orbiters – refer them to Roosh. Send them this great Ted Talk about quitting porn (a HUUUGE problem for modern men):

        I know that you’re a woman, and you want the man to take the lead….but sadly the USA has emasculated men so much (both literally in terms of pulverizing testosterone levels and culturally in terms of forcing them to behave like pussies) that you’ll have to often be more direct and forceful than seems natural.

        How old are you? Your pic makes you look very young.

      11. Ain'tIAWoman? July 13, 2014 at 6:21 pm

        Okay, I have heard it a million times on these sites that young women should not go to school and get a career and put off having her babies. Here is the million dollar question. Who is going to pay for these kids I should be having right now? Do you want me to bring children into the world to live in the same poverty I was raised in? Would you like to pay more taxes so the government can support me and these kids? What is a young girl with zero marriage prospects supposed to do just die in her parents home? Most the young men I went to school with don’t even know their own fathers, whose to stay they would want to stick around for me!? I feel like the manosphere speaks to a certain group of people and these people are middle class and mostly white.

      12. Doppelganger July 17, 2014 at 12:35 am

        David, I’ll never thank you enough for that video. I had suspects on this myself, but I didn’t know there were studies being conducted. I’ll start blocking the infamous websites immediately

      13. DavidSNESGAMER July 17, 2014 at 9:47 am

        You’re so very welcome. Please pass it along to other men.

        I also strongly encourage you to consider a natural, high fat diet such as the paleo diet. Quitting porn and eating healthy (combined with learning a skilled trade) completely transformed my life. Here’s a funny documentary about obesity and eating good stuff:

      14. Jason Wexler July 14, 2014 at 6:52 pm

        Or it could serve as an impetus to achieve the economic reform, we agreed needed to happen in another thread.

      15. bate July 14, 2014 at 6:37 am

        That is a good point, the fraud system installed by Rothschilds and other frigging misanthropes is the problem, causing diversity and gender war among males and females, to distract them from the real evil. Most of the people are too dumb to look behind curtain no.1 so they are trapped in being divided and conquered in eternal struggle.

      16. greyghost1 August 11, 2014 at 11:12 am

        Those things do not under feminism make a man high value. In fact the men that offer that to women are divorced and criminalized. High value is measured by who gets to insert his penis into the various openings females have. He gets to enjoy his genitalia far more than a sap taking care of his family for that is of no value at all. See any divorce court. Enjoy the decline Stephie

    1. Conrad Stonebanks July 13, 2014 at 6:33 am

      From the comments: “I believe this guy has a problem. He probably can’t get it up for ANYONE, without some difficulty.”

      If you listen closely, you can hear that hamster spinning…

      1. DavidSNESGAMER July 13, 2014 at 2:54 pm

        If you can’t get a boner for a woman, then you have no business going
        out (“riding bike” “cooking meals” from the article) in the first place.

        I always fault a man who doesn’t give a good plowing to a woman if the circumstances presents itself. As much as I criticize modern, sexless women, I’d be a hypocrite if I didn’t criticize the dudes who don’t fuck women on the occasion they’re offering it.

        Always fuck the woman if you’re out romantically. Always. It’s emasculating to oneself and demoralizing to the woman if you don’t.

        The dude was 55. Sure, 50-something women are far less arousing than younger women (as has been demonstrated in countless clinical trials), but still, just find the elusive boner for the old broad, fuck her good, and then tell her a pretty lie about why you can’t see her.

        But the commenter at HuffPost was probably right. Otherwise, why was the dude dating her for so long in the first place?

      2. Conrad Stonebanks July 14, 2014 at 3:47 am

        Have you considered this man doesn’t exist and the entire story is made up by her in an attempt to get attention/approval/sympathy from the reader?

      3. DavidSNESGAMER July 14, 2014 at 3:53 am

        What reason do you have to believe it was all made up and, if you believe so, then why did you respond to it as though it were true?

    2. Gordon July 14, 2014 at 6:20 am

      At the end of the day, a male at 55 can typically get a female in her mid 40’s. Can’t fault the guy. A majority of men [If they have the capacity to do younger] will be turned off by an ‘Aging’ see [Wrinkled] body.

  30. Dukelsy July 13, 2014 at 5:15 pm

    Holy crap, I had to reread this just to make sure it was being serious. Your’e out of you’re fucking mind.

    “A man is forced to become virtuous, someone who must earn his salt every day, while a woman who has experienced the same morphs into a shrew, a calculating, un-motherly, and masculine specimen that is half-man and half-woman”

    There i s just so much wrong with this, I can’t even begin. I know men and women both who have dealt with the worst experiences and land nowhere close to your jacked up predispositions. I’ll put it this way, most of the single mothers I know are far better people and way more capable of persevering their crappy experiences than most of the men I know who pay child support.

    1. greyghost1 August 11, 2014 at 10:55 am

      The man is dead on right. Sorry your image and fantasy of the wonderful girl waiting for your commitment to love and cherish in mutual love and respect for your loving commitment was wrecked by this article of reality as it plays out. Get used to reality or you will suffer under feminism

      1. Dukelsy August 22, 2014 at 12:40 am

        LMAO wtf is your malfunction? My girl, who is the image of perfection and beauty I always imagined defies all of this by herself. I’m sorry your dick is so shriveled and your head is so low you can’t possibly conceive of a reality where man and woman uniting is somehow not confined to caveman beliefs but there is hope my friend. It is actually possible. Somewhere out there is a fat, lonely, desperate girl just for you. 🙂

      2. greyghost1 August 22, 2014 at 4:30 am

        Image of perfection and beauty huh

  31. Sam Spade July 13, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    How does a woman avoid experiencing anything – off herself?

    Or by “experience” do you mean trials and challenges…You can’t pass through life without experiencing something.

  32. splooge July 14, 2014 at 3:57 am

    totally agree. Thats why they are expected to be safe at home,they dont know how privileged they are. Whether it be conservative like afghanistan(like she mentioned in video) to librarl nation like sweden.

  33. Zelcorpion July 14, 2014 at 5:20 am

    Life experiences are dished out to both sexes for the same reasons. The problem is with women nowadays, that they do not accept responsibility (someone else is at fault), refuse to self-improve (fat-shaming, accept yourself, “love” yourself) and thus all experiences result in the attitude of a toddler, who instead of accepting the wise feedback that life is giving her, demands life itself to change.
    Also – I agree – most women copying male life experiences will fail and be unhappy, because what makes us fulfilled in our genders is different. Similar to a cat who tries to be a dog when raised by them – neither will be happy trying to live like the other.

  34. anon July 14, 2014 at 4:54 pm

    Look at this comment and my translation, this is just too obvious…

    “I’ve wasted decades as my worst enemy & searching for men’s approval. Something happened in my late 40’s, I decided I’d rather be “alone” and content than with someone searching for perfection.”
    I spent the the better part of my youth riding alpha cock on the carousel looking, something happened my late 40’s, I realized I was well over the wall with it hardly in distant view behind me, men were no longer interested in me, not even betas wanted to marry me, so now I will be a lonely spinster with 16 cats.

  35. Rubio Sol Oscuro July 15, 2014 at 2:41 am

    I’m calling bullshit on that last paragraph. How could a woman in a Paleo tribe be attached to ONE man? Logistically how would it work? You coudn’t just slink off in the bushes to fuck, because both of you would be literally torn apart by a lion/bear/wolf/whatever. Sex back in the day HAD to happen in front of the WHOLE tribe, which I doubt meant anything other than mass participation.

    Not to mention anybody reading this has probably already read “Sperm Wars”. Sperm fights other sperm because Paleo women typically had multiple loads shot up inside them one after the other! There’s no logical explanation around this fact. We were designed for group sex, period.

    Besides which in my own personal experience, I see women generally hiding behind velvet curtains created by our great society, and THIS is the cause of their major character flaws. I see them being pampered by legions of beta white knights, and generally living a life where little is expected of them, and THIS is what creates the conniving, backstabbing, hypocritical, two-faced, disloyal and vampiric qualities in them more than anything else.

    1. greyghost1 August 11, 2014 at 10:49 am

      Great societies have the capacity for the velvet curtain. When the SHTF no society they stick will one man and cling to him like a life jacket until another man hypergamy always working makes her jump ship. But you won’t see some broad standing on her own enjoying her societal you go girl privilege.
      If paleo girl she multiple loads of sperm in her it sure as hell wasn’t due to her choosing to play the field to increase her chances of having a healthy child. That would have got her killed real fast and in a hurry

  36. A Person July 15, 2014 at 9:51 am

    I’m sorry, but as someone who meets men and women who have been through so many hardships on a regular basis, I’m going to have to say that this is probably the most disillusioned tripe I’ve read in a while.

    I’ve met so many people who have been through things that I very much doubt Roosh has ever had to worry about, such as surviving life through crippling poverty, watching their loved ones be murdered for drugs and money, and escaping their country to seek asylum.

    Not all of those women came out of the other side “cynical, jaded, distrustful and sour”, nor did all the men turn out “full of wisdom, stories and knowledge.” Many women were capable of being genuinely happy, wise and amiable, and many men were downtrodden, bitter and angry. Sometimes I wonder who the hell you’re talking to when you come up with such blatantly ridiculous blanket statements such as this one.

    1. greyghost1 August 11, 2014 at 10:42 am

      They don’t come out cynical jaded and distrustful and sour. They come out delusionally empowered. If it was actually the former it would be something to logically work with. I think you are a woman rebuilding the mound to get every body back on the blue pill.

  37. SalZel July 19, 2014 at 4:35 pm

    “A man is forced to become virtuous, someone who must earn his salt every day”
    While most women just spread their legs. Bingo. A woman could never survive as a man.

  38. FedUP July 20, 2014 at 12:39 am

    I got a cramp in my feminine muscles after reading this post.

  39. Koanic August 3, 2014 at 4:00 am

    So brutal, so true. I salute you, grim, dogged sir.

  40. Joe Soap August 16, 2014 at 11:45 am

    Another American male who isn’t getting any. I don’t care what any says America has more misogynist than any other first world country. Must be all that god bothering, right wing politics, gun nuttery, and being as thick as a plank.

  41. Vick December 6, 2014 at 12:16 am

    god article roosh. But

    “The only thing more absurd than a woman sleeping with every man in the tribe

    I think there are Amazon tribes where women slut around with multiple men.

  42. dawn-roxanne michelle June 25, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    I can not believe men believe such drivel, in a time when more women are becoming scientists and are going on to receive PHD’s four to one with males, (4:1) being the one, and we are building more and more men’s correctional facilities and filling them. In this day and age I can not believe one man as this bitter, obviously gets rejected and or is hurt by women, simply can not figure out a complex human,(as men are not,) would have a “workshop” one that would only be equaled by a person trying to seek power in his life through made up excuses and scapegoats, much like Adolf, or a white Power recruitment leader. This is simply to ridiculous to be real or even waste one more minute speaking about…

  43. Pandora Orosco August 20, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    So then… in order for men to become stronger and more virtuous and experienced they need to build that success on the women they slept with, making those women no longer valuable to men? That’s kinda fucked up, since you say that men need to use women to become better but at the same time you want women to stay pure and innocent and committed for them to become better women. If women were like that, men would not be able to build that experience, from what you say. Are you saying that there has to be a special class of women who open their legs for everyone so that men can build up their confidence but these women can never achieve anything?

  44. Wow April 27, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Please tell me all of this is a joke. Like none of this is serious whatsoever. It’s got to be a parody website.