I have a bank of rotating stock questions I ask women that let me know how I should proceed with my game. One of the questions I used to ask was “Do you need a man?” Out of the dozens of times I asked it, not a single girl answered yes. Even in Eastern Europe, a woman needs a man as much as a cat needs milk. They would prefer the best man or the best milk, but they can surely live without.
There is definitely not a single woman alive in the Western world who needs a man. While in the past a woman had to put forth effort to obtain a husband who would help her survive, today she is protected by a welfare state that ensures she will never go hungry or spend one night on the street. Even a child she has out of wedlock from a drunken night out will not have to suffer from her mistake, and that’s in spite of the fact that many nations already provide her with free contraception to compensate for her lack of judgement in selecting worthy mates.
Anything required for a woman’s survival or pleasure can be easily achieved without her having to put forth commitment, sacrifice, or labor. She can shave her head, gain 50 pounds, and disfigure herself with tattoos yet still have many suitors to—at the minimum—have sex on demand. Her food and shelter will be provided by a state which has embarked on an extraordinary effort to compete with men for her devotion and loyalty.
I started asking a different question to women: “Do you want a man?” I began receiving “I don’t know” answers (the more they hesitated to respond, the more I considered their true answer to be a yes). Only in a few instances did a woman outright say yes, and these usually happened in Ukraine. It’s no surprise that I eased into mini-relationships with these yes girls without the standard flaking or game-playing you would normally receive from girls who see men as milk instead of water. The girls who said yes weren’t exactly hurting for food or shelter, and they didn’t try to reach into my pockets for resources, but through their attitude and demeanor it was clear that they did want a man in their life who could provide it with a measure of happiness that could not be gained from their environment or government.
You’re a lucky man if you can find this type of girl in the West. From a young age, girls are brainwashed to believe that they don’t need men and that the key to their happiness is self-empowerment by sleeping around and becoming a corporate wage slave. It’s hard to dispute the notion that a woman who believes she doesn’t need a man won’t make as good of a relationship partner as one who does. She will treat you as a distraction to her more important job, girls’ nights out, and social networking validation happy time. Men have become an utterly replaceable and expendable commodity in a girl’s life. Her interest in a man is not unlike her interest in a new television show or Apple product, and your only hope is to have sex with her as many times as possible until her attraction diminishes and she moves on to the next guy in line.
Women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. They seek hedonistic pleasure. This is why provider men (beta males) are so hopelessly failing today to secure the commitment of beautiful women in their prime, and this is why even lesser alpha males fail to enter relationships with women beyond a few bangs. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will—she moves on to something or someone else. In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer, adding a cliffhanger to the end of each episode that keeps a woman interested when being a good man no longer does.
When I look at myself in the mirror, I don’t see a man who has improved himself over the years to be the best that his genes allow—I see a glittery skirt that a girl encounters in the mall. Is the skirt too expensive or is it on sale? Is there only one left of her size or is the rack full of them? Does she already have something similar or is it totally novel? Does her friends think it’s cute or just alright? After trying it on, does it flatter her body or make her look fat? Either she makes the impulsive decision to buy the skirt or not, because odds are she won’t come back for it. There are so many stores with so many skirts that she will soon forget it, forever. We are like glittery pieces of fashion to women—items that she truly doesn’t need. Not only has she already collected so many of them, but she can easily obtain more within walking distance from where she lives. She can even browse online from home while in her pajamas through a nearly unlimited selection.
We are not men in the traditional sense—we are clowns. With our tight game we have to be entertainers who create drama and excitement in a girl’s life, just long enough so that she spreads her legs and makes sexy noises, and even though she did commit such an intimate act with us, she will soon lose interest or simply get bored, and then move on to the next shiny cock that catches her eye. The other side of this coin is that we no longer need women. We don’t need them to maintain our home or cook good meals for us. We don’t need them in an age where having children is no longer important or valued. Whatever natural connection that once existed between the sexes has now been severed. Neither sex needs each other so we dedicate ourselves to corporations, entertainment, and base pleasures instead, and this is a great tragedy that most people believe is a sign of progress, a cause for celebration.
For the next girl I meet, I’m not going to ask her if she needs a man, because I know she doesn’t. Instead I will simply ask her if she wants a man, and if the answer leans yes, I will perform like the good clown I am so that she is entertained enough to have sex with me. Either she or I will eventually get bored and the relationship will end. Then I will simply repeat my performance on a someone new, because I’m a skilled clown, and that’s exactly what women today want.
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It all part of the master plan folks
Master plan=zog/nwo
Pretty much all the progressivism in the West is a well articulated plan to depopulate the Western world by destroying traditional social structures. Feminism has been complete poison for the West, America’s incarcaration rate has shot up, persons living with single parents have gone up, social cohesion is nothing like it was decades ago. Even the minorities who the progressives claim to help live in hellish conditions, exposed to violence, lack of employment and educational opportunities, and are at the mercy of a racist justice system as a result of the progressive policies that have destroyed families.
The reality is that the so-called progressives, many of its leaders are Jewish and support a violent and racist dogma under the pretense of social justice. You wonder why many left wing Jewish groups support social degeneracy and open borders in the West while giving Israel a blank check to do what it wishes?
Glad Trump will finally put an end to this bullshit.
Sadly, Trump says he is “Israel’s best friend” lol
He was lying, he only said it so as to not get heat from the Jew’s, he secretly hates the Jew’s as do many people.
Some believe Israel was the real masterminds of 9/11. I wouldn’t doubt it. It’s been said how people from almost every country perished in WTC that day, every country except, ISRAEL. There were Jewish companies in the towers and they were conveniently off that day. In fact, Jewish people were not seen in lower Manhattan at all. Coincidence?
What gets me is anyone in their right mind can clearly see 9/11 was a carefully planned controlled demolition but 99% pretend they didn’t see anything. Even Building 7 and still barely a whisper from anyone except a blank – oh yeah.. F we really must be living in 1984.
There could be a 9-11 every day and nobody would care because it doesn’t effect THEM.
Life just continues on as usual. Just like an animal. As long as it’s not in their backyard. It’s not their friends or family and even MORE important than friends and family – 9-11 every day doesn’t effect their fridges being full, nights out, pizza deliveries, BBQ parties, flat screen TV’s, internet connections, phones, cars, homes, vacations, kids in school.
Sure. Most people would feel bad. Everyone would scream and shout something must be done. Then they look around them and everything is fine and life goes on.
I am telling you. The days of civil wars being waged because of tax increases on green tea are long gone. And they are not coming back without a catastrophically severe economic situation.
Something very serious has to happen AND these people have to lose the power to create money and manipulate the value of money via international exchange rates.
I thought Bitcoin might have been the answer at removing the parasites. But it seems I was wrong.
Trump is Jewish, all his children are married to Jews – many pretend to be Christian – which is actually jewish garbage to turn ppl into sheep. As you you said – Actions speak louder
Dude, you dropped it ! It is the Zionist agenda ( the Powerful private banks ) that took OVER countries with a duplicitous goodwell agenda that permeates from the highest levels of government to everyday pawns & Trump was selected by the SAME elites, like others before him . DON’T believe the hype ! Look who his daughter is married to .
Christians gladly gave Jews their money because the Bible says earning interest is sinful. Dude…get the facts. Christians picked Jews do their dirty work.
He’s not putting an end to anything. Even if he wanted to the swamp would delay and draw it out until the next election – until socialist or neocon gets elected – just like they are doing now.
Real change would take a military kue. Force. Violence. That’s the only way to drain the swamp. The rest is just talk and “babble”. City council speeches and town hall meetings. Bla bla bla. See. You have “rights”. We “listen” to you. Bla bla bla. It’s all theatrics.
Meanwhile the ship sails into the reef. The crew is alarmed, concerned, shouting. The crew protests. There are “special meetings” and “let your voice be heard days” and lots of paperwork back and forth between the crew and it’s captain.
In the meantime the ship continues full speed into the reef .The captain is a bitch and he does what the navigators tell him to do. If not – his career as a captain will be over, his house foreclosed, his family in the street, and no gold or retirement package for him.
That is the real problem and until force changes it – nothing will ever change.
What a load of shit.
Double up the tin Foil.
A women fall for it like the a rodent to a well crafted trap.
I learned of their control of the majority of wealth, the media and academia despite them making up less than 2% of the population (even lower in Canada). They are behind the ridiculous political correctness movement and hate crime legislation that was drafted so as to silence anyone who might figure out their agenda and attempt to shed light on it. Men like German Rudolf, David Irving and many more, previously recognized as great historians, were arrested, charged with hate crimes and incarcerated simply for having made academic inquiry into a specific period of history. Other so called “revisionists” or “holocaust deniers” have been intimidated, harassed, assaulted and smeared simply for trying to get at the truth. I found out that the Jews are responsible for our wide open immigration policies that have created the nightmare we call “multiculturalism,” “diversity,” inclusiveness” and “pluralism.” It is mostly they who push for race mixing and miscegenation, knowing full well that it would eventually lead to those of white European descent being minorities in their own countries and the eventual extermination of white European DNA.
Who asked race nuts to butt in here?
Who owns the banks media companies top lobbing firms? That’s like saying look at all those tall black guys in the nba- how racist. It’s not racism it’s stating the facts.
You are not just stating the facts. You are trying to claim that they are in those positions as the result of some conspiracy, which is racist, not to mention stupid. That’s the difference.
Blacks are in the NBA because they are athletic and and aspect of their culture emphasizes basketball achievement. Jews are prominent in business, law, and academia because their culture emphasizes education and hard work. In neither case is it is a conspiracy. If you were good at basketball you could be in the NBA, and if you were smart enough you could run a bank or do whatever. But you are not, and rather than just accepting that you are blaming your lack of achievement on others.
Simplistic moron
Jews are not a real people. They are a sect. They dont have the same % of common DNA like other people have, You mother just have to be jew and thats enough for them to claim you jewish as well, and fuck the other half, It’s the most watered down people who ever existed. Any other mixed relationship result in mixed children but now jews: The children are always 100% jewish. Fuckem.
Jews are prominent in business because they have a greedy sniveling nature, they are not hard working at all. Asians are much harder working in my experience. I live in a city with many Asians, they work extremely hard yet hit a glass ceiling, the ones who get rich usually own their own businesses. Most Jews are rich because they are highly intelligent opportunists and are master scam artists, a common term used against them is “Shyster”. Might sound racist but most of them I have known are exactly this way.
Of course they are. It’s not racist. They admit all this themselves, all of their rabbis speak openly about it!
It’s not all Jews.
These attitudes stem from the Talmud which is the product of Pharisees – and not God. The Torah is God’s word. The Talmud is not.
Jews do appear to me to be somewhat shysterish in nature, i agree. Conniving is another word.
Yes – Asians are intelligent and hard working. That is the problem. They will work for nothing. Asians have some kind of mental block with losing face. That is why they built suicide nets outside of these factories in China. They put up a front until the point they step off the roof. That’s why they hit a glass ceiling . They are passive and “wait to be noticed”. They make the boss rich and “wait for a raise”. Most don’t have any balls. I’ve had extensive experience with this in business
Long hours. Low Pay. Race to the bottom. They don’t have any balls.
This only benefits those at the top. That’s why they sing the praises of immigration.
The ironic side is that it all eventually catches up as all business are forced to lower their prices and forced to hire cheap labor to compete. All these government regulations just make it worse. With employee lawsuits etc there is LESS liability to hire immigrants and a huge upside with labor costs.
This is all caused by central planning.
Utter dipshit. Jews have always been a very aggressive, insidious race. Get an education in reality.
The invite themselves in
What you don’t realize is that you guys sound awfully similar to the race nuts, just replace (jews, black people, etc) with women. The irony is lost on you all. You deserve each other and this is hilariously awesome
You’re still an empty cunt.
Good one.
Shut up whore…it is men that created the conditions needed for feminism to exist and it will be men who take it away….eventually even the beta cucks will begin to resent you and then…well then things will get back to nature baby…and your kind will be the first to learn the new lessons.
Shut up the fuck up you loser lol what a bunch of pussies here whining and complaining about women, just like a group of little teen girls complaining over some douchebags lol The men are the ones who are learning what their place is
deal with it. Some of you fag can’t stand the fact that women don’t need you anymore, besides for sex ofc lol and that’s too easy to get since most of you men are horny pigs fools who are able to act like dogs just to get the pussy.
I am not a horny pigs fool or a dog for pussy.
You’re trapped by your own words without even realizing it.
If women in general don’t need men – that proves they never needed us before. Men were only good for resources. Would this not prove most women are whores?
I would also like to add – you’re only leverage over a man is when he loves you. Outside of this your leverage is welfare, the court system, student loans, credit cards, and corporate wage slavery with an egalitarian aspect.
All of these systems are from artificial central planning and fiat money. Artificial. None are found in nature. None are found in true libertarian free market or wild west capitalism. The West exploits labor from other nations with a system too complex for you to understand. America is the only place where an economically useless person can mortgage a small house for $700,000, get a luxery car loan, student loans, credit cards, welfare – and someone else has to pay. Either here or overseas – nothing is free. Nothing.
Without the fiat money system and the temporary Western Zionist alliance forcing up this house of cards at the point of a gun- none of this would exist. You would not have the option not to need a man.
It’s simply against the laws of nature for an unemployed women, to live in $700,000 house and drive a Range Rover, while she gorges herself on Starbucks and Tinder swipes – paying for everything with borrowed money.
If you knew anything about history you’d know what goes around comes around and this cannot last.
Natures laws will eventually return.
No,….Jews are what they say they are in large part. Not all but in general.
Not only jews but also their fellow parasitic minions Indians are into this game.
I believe just like in all species of animals, even among humans we have parasites, and jews are parasitic race, same with indians, their whole purpose of existence is to destroy their host nations and feed on them
Otto weininger wrote his seminal work “Sex and character” where he describes a Jew to be a feminine spirit, A Jew never had masculinity, he is feminine and this is why most jews are proponents of feminism and other degenerate feminine philosophies
Jews have instinctive hatred towards Masculine races and Masculine Values like Honor, Brotherhood,Camaraderie….
America and most western world has become Judaized..Today its feminine, There is no honor,Camaraderie or any values, all we have is jewish materialism, Jewish feminism and Judaised Holocaustianity ..Which you call today as christianity…
All cultural and social institutions that have created and fostered the European civilization are dead,The jewish parasite has infiltrated into every aspect of European life, today they no longer hide behind the screen, Jews are quite open and boast often how they have Corrupted European culture and much they are proud of it, infact we have become more gutless and we cherish and celebrate our demise
Ugh, I hate how the manosphere for some reason brings in the neo-nazi and jew hating racist trash like you.
If you did some research youd see its actually all true. Covering your ears and screaming “lalala” doesnt make it not so. Quit being so naive, pulling the race card is just as bad if not worse than a feminist pulling the mysoginist card.
It isn’t “Jews” per se, but cultural decadence as a byproduct of decades of peace and prosperity for ordinary Westerners. I can see how Americans might think it “is the Jews”. The Jewish aspect is relevant to Americans because many Jews live there & sadly many are in with the Left.
But what of the Western nations with hardly any Jews – yet where Leftism is pervasive? Not many Jews in Europe.
Here in Australia here there are a minority of cultural Leftists (like in every Western nation) – and there are pretty much NO JEWS here. Here, it’s immature Anglo-Saxon tossers (self-righteous poseurs) that make up almost all of the Left, and six out of ten would be women.
Our wealthy societies create the soft conditions where detached and hateful Leftism can be indulged.
The central dynamic is that after decades of peace and prosperity for ordinary Western citizens at home in their nations – previously fringe matters come to the fore. All the important problems were solved a long time ago.
So, we have a build-up of sheltered, emotionally immature, naive, indulgent, Leftwing cultural faggotry.
But as I’ve written above, the money is gone (massive government debts), and the charade cannot continue much longer.
What you should be saying is that the Zionists own the banks not to mention they financed the Third Reich and in Hitler to rise to power. The point of World War 2 was to get a Zionist state of Israel not a Jewish state which they would do by the extermination of the Palestine people as they are seen as subhuman. “There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.” This is the form of Zionist not Judaism please be informed
Jews do not send their kids to public schools, bozo. Jews are careful how they raise them, yet they relish making shows like Jerry Springer to blast at the unwashed Whites.
Why not ? jews are behind 90% of all feminist and PC bullshit. There’s NO reason to love them.
A community that believes a certain type of humans are superior to other types of humans, attracting another community which believes their race is superior to all other races?? Sounds impossible, bro.
You would not have written that if it were Muslims being blamed. Run along back to your bible / torah.
Haha yea, I really hate Jew’s now for what they have done to western woman, and to the west in general, I have pretty much been forced to leave my country because I won’t tolerate the bullshit anymore. Yea Hitler was right now we know why he wanted to exterminate the Jew’s.
“neoNazi’ thats all you got? Tibalism is REAL…unlike feminism…which is a construct created by men to appease women…in other words feminism exists at the pleasure of men and this will one day cease and the conditions that exist that make feminism safe will evaporate…just as they are in Europe whilst the population is displaced by non-feminist men and women from the Muslim areas of the world…no need to agree since reality will slap the shit out of you for all men.
This post is insanity. Is the Israeli military feminine? Is Bugsy Siegel feminine? Or Steve Wynn or Sheldon Adelson (casino moguls and billionaires)? Oh, and by the way, Rooshv is Indian. Rest assured, there’s a special place in hell for people like yourself.
So the Jews who control everything are behind the Islamification of the West?
Indian “minion” guy here.
I think you Jew trash forgot that India was the only country that provided a place to stay to the Jews when they were kicked out from almost all parts of the planet.
And the reason why we “Minions” still prefer traditional marriages is because of our culture to RESPECT WOMEN. Yes you read it right you cock-suckers. But now all you get are 13-14 year old girls fucking around like dogs expecting “Indian Men should respect women” BS.
And yes, the Jewish trash Media left no stone unturned to portray India as a “land of Rapists” because of our same cultural values.
Are you for real, you are known for raping and killing your women over nothing. You marry girls so young because, its a form of control. But its ok for men or so called men, to fuck around. While your women are treated like live stock. Fuck off. Misogynist prick. And the rest of you fucken women hating, misogynistic mother fuckers. Crawl back under your rocks.
still prefer traditional marriages is because of our culture to RESPECT WOMEN
loooooooooool.yeah right.then Sudia Arabia most be the kings of women respect
any islamic country following a sharia law is an exception to the discussion. there married women and singles alike suffer with their pussies stuffed with mullah beards.
otherwise, it is true indian guys stay married. and such dedication is a (much forgotten) form of respect.
Though it is wrong to call India as a land of rapists, we need to clarify here that the rapists are now hugely females rather than males. Males have almost become clowns as this article said. If you see the transformation of the society and the heavy inclination of all the laws towards women, it surely turns out as a land where the females are much more pampered than anyone else. This makes them misuse the laws very easily. Take a look at the fake cases against men and their families.
So many Useless And Worthless women nowadays more than we ever had unfortunately. No wonder why many of us Good men are still Single today.
… If you were this Good, honey, we’d all be fighting for you and the least thing you’d be is Single. Not your fault: Useless, Worthless, confused and overconfident men are legion nowadays my friend.
We women derive so much hilarity from reading these pathetic articles (Neomasculinity? ar ar ar! Hugo boss & gold bling? On your skinny defeated back?? Hahahaha!)
Go on boys. Our pleasure. For real.
The real trouble is most of you women have no respect for us men anymore which makes most of you very pathetic altogether especially when many women will curse at us good men for just saying hello or good morning to the one that we’re attracted to which doesn’t make any sense at all. Oh boy, women are so sweet today right? NOT.
You’re not worthy of respect because you lack respect for women. Suck it, bitch. Women don’t owe you SHIT. Why the fuck we would be sweet to any of you scum bags? You objectify us and degrade and humiliate us. You sexualize us then treat us like we’re not even human, just bags of flesh for you to stick your dicks into.
This author is fucking retarded, as I don’t sleep with males anymore at all, because none of you are worth the air you breath. You’re not deserving of my body, or any woman’s body.
I see you are the quintessential woman the author is referring to. You read that article and that is what you picked up about men ?? . Case in point proved . I honestly wouldn’t do you with a stick if I had the option but sadly many men think someone like you is the Godess they have to get to love them , all I can say to is ” good luck fellas ” .
And You’re a complete very pathetic low life loser anyway since women like You will just grow old all alone with your cats since no man would want you. In other words You Lost.
Said the very mentally sick woman herself.
Then again you sound like a real total loser yourself and i can really see that you have a very severe mental problem as well which you should seek some kind of professional help since there just might be help for you after all. But i seriously doubt that.
Said the Moron herself.
Your not worthy of anything, I will walk directly over you not around you, I don’t care if I send you flying like the piece of shit you are, you don’t deserve shit, you deserve a slap in the face, I never fucking walk around western white woman they disgust me so much sometimes I want to strangle them or throw acid on their faces to remove that arrogant face, just like the Muslims are doing to you pathetic western white pieces of female trash now that your kind imported them, yup when I see a white western woman getting raped I will not lift a finger to help her, I will order a beer the screams will go ignored, I will actually smile because your disgusting type voted for this shit, you made bed now die in it you scum.
So are you now a lesbian then?
Hey Nicole, there are some amazing women out there just like there are some amazing men.
I am very sure that she has her very own StrapOn and girlfriend already.
You are a big part of the problem. A lot of women just like you tend to overvalue themselves to the point of rejecting every man alive. It seems like our culture is giving too much self-confidence/arrogance/self-worth to women. Hey, Elon Musk and Zuckerberg are probably less full of themselves than you! You might have some value I’m not saying the opposite, but please girls, stop acting like your beyonce. Being 160 pounds while being 5’4 is not healthy, not ”curvy” nor ”cushionable” or whatever expression you want to use to justify your physical shape! And what’s funny is that this type of gorls often want mem who have been tp the gym for years or who are hurting themselves with steroids.
Said the moron herself.
this is real talk…if you think about it you will realise that India historically has always done the right things with good intentions but in return India only gets contempt and vilification from the west despite all the historical wrong doings that we have had to endure like genocide, slavery and pillaging of all our wealth. Many of these foolish Indians still run after the west like moths to a flame only to get burnt badly by the bastards who live there. In fact whats happening with Islamic extremism is wake up call to all these so called western “religions” hate cults like christianity and judaism to wake up n smell the stench that these religions create and to adopt real spiritual religions like the ones from the east hinduism and buddhism. Many of these westerners are adopting yoga n spirituality and all the good things from India and still hate India and cannot swallow the fact that our Indian ancestors are the ones that created yoga and meditation and not any “white savior” for them to claim credit. Typical from these pigs coz they are always quick to criticize everything Indian but never willing to give credit where its really due.
Holocaust denial is SO blue pill.
And conspiracy theories are beta. If you blame all of your problems on some implausible paranoid fantasy, rather than striving to just improve yourself and your outcomes, it doesn’t get anymore pathetic than that.
31 guest votes….
You JIDF cunts aren’t exactly subtle.
Well I think if the whole world is going to shit because of some conspiracy or whatever, then the time you’ve taken to improve yourself and make yourself strong is what’s going to pull you through it. But dwelling on all this other distracting shit is just going to leave you high and dry when adversity strikes.
Seriously, you try to gather around a group of guys to talk about women and all of a sudden some Nazi walks in and changes the subject to Jews. It’s so annoying. Stay on topic.
Man-children* these aren’t men. I wouldn’t give them the title of guy, either.
So why would a real stupid woman like you write a topic like this in the first place? Then again you need help very bad.
I learned about their roles in the radical homosexual movement, the radical feminist movement, the pornography industry as well as their over-representation in the abortion industry.
http://www.rense.com/general80/whj.htm
Very powerful post, which shows impressive self-awareness on the part of Roosh. I believe this is a must read by any young man today.
I was kind of thinking along the same lines, as I noticed that every year, girls are becoming flakier and flakier.
At the end of the day, game is just the skill of being a clown in the hope that some girl will be amused enough to spread her legs.. or not, if something shiny distracts her.
I can’t ethically approve prostitution but if all it is now is to be her Adam Sandler entertainer for a few hours to hope to get laid- why wage our time and listen to her retarded banter, child like outbursts, and asinine logic and just not fly to Europe, or Latin America (Amrican pros are ugly and $$$$$)????
It’s gross that women are such bitches now men even do a cost benefits on talking silly talk to them vs. going to an call girl. We live in a dystopian World now.
Questions of legality and “ethics” aside, which is more dignified for a man: paying for sex with his cash or with his time by playing the role of court jester?
It seems the only difference is that the latter provides a nice dopamine hit of fulfilment at having won the game of garnering female approval.
So the question becomes: is it good for a man to seek female approval?
I am not so sure it is.
Think of it this way: do you care if a hobo thinks you are well dressed? Or if your neighbor’s dog appreciates your scent?
“What, are you crazy!?”
In the end, all of these problems boil down to the progressive diminution of the value of western men. It is hard to believe that an average guy from 1914 would even countenance playing the jester; modern tinder hos and streetwalkers would be equivalent, and their opinions equivalently immaterial, to him.
Time warp him to 2014, hand him an iphone and he’d probably be confused as to why dating apps don’t have payment systems built in.
they do, it’s called myfreewebcams and the likes
Either way is scummy. How about treating women like human beings with thoughts, emotions, feelings, and try a little equality. Might actually get you somewhere instead of looked at with disgust.
I’ve had so many pathetic little bitch boys use me for my money and resources so kindly shut the fuck up. Your gender is far more using than women are.
Your a piece of work arnt you, how about treating men like men, instead of like the aloof clown’s you try and make them be, I hope you die a lonely death with your cat’s eating your corps.
Great comment. I couldn’t have said it better.
Old post and late comer to the topic, but not sure why one wouldn’t approve ethically of the sex trade. We each own ourselves, we own our bodies, and we exchange our bodies for income. This is labor, be it washing dishes, at a desk, or in a boxing rink getting hit. We own ourselves, we own our right to any labor that doesn’t hurt another person.
There is no reason to question the ethics, the ethics are clear unless you think yow own another person.
because sexuality is a physically and emotionally intimate thing. if you equate it with money, then either you value your physical/emotional (p/e) intimacy as bland as physical labor or objects, or you value money so high that your p/e intimacy fades in comparison. both cases reflect some acute distortion of values, which even though should still be respected and accepted as the rights of someone, but it has to be always clear that is a fringe interest and should never be the norm
It’s neither emotional nor intimate to all people at all times. And the norm does not always mean the best. It’s normal in some cultures to oppress women and deny them education. Normal is not a standard I care about. Chattel slavery was once normal and backed by law. So even the law doesn’t really matter. What matters is ethics. And ethically a person owns themselves, which means if they wish to trade sex for money it is perfectly within their individual rights – no matter what a neighbor or gun toting police thugs might say.
“t’s neither emotional nor intimate to all people at all times.” That was mentioned in my post. Your post is redundant.
Holy shit… a grown man with a brain. Fred, you rock!
Thank you Nicole, its a sign of the lack of a value system that the idea that we each own our own bodies will often receive a great deal of derision.
I think the term “ethics” in this context might be subject to misunderstanding.
For starters, the sex trade is absolutely not something that should be subject to government meddling. Sovereign individuals own their own bodies, and if they are willing to engage in sex acts for money, that is 100% their right.
We libertarians often joke about “capitalist acts between consenting adults”, deliberately equating other forms of voluntary trade with the sex trade in particular, just to make our point.
That said, I can’t help but feel that trading sex for money is not the psychologically healthiest thing a person can do. I can’t help but feel that there is some devaluing of oneself going on underneath it all, at the emotional level.
Again, let me repeat. None of this is anyone else’s business. Third parties must butt out. There should be no such thing as laws against the sex trade. There should be no such thing as vice cops, enforcing their own notions of morality on individuals.
I’m merely talking about what people should do in order to live the most fulfilling lives.
“That said, I can’t help but feel that trading sex for money is not the psychologically healthiest thing a person can do. I can’t help but feel that there is some devaluing of oneself going on underneath it all, at the emotional level.”
Agreed, not to confuse the ethics of “mind your business”, with what is healthy, good for the family and a quality society.
Yes! That is what I mean.
Authoritarians of all stripes refuse to acknowledge the distinction between actions that are “bad” but do not violate other’s rights, and therefore must be tolerated, and actions that are bad because they violate other’s rights, and therefore can never be tolerated.
The reaction of liberals and conservatives alike is to say “There oughta be a law!”
Neither seem to realize that institutionaiizing state violence is the worst “bad” of all. It trumps all other “bads” in its long term repercussions.
Demand the institutionalization of state violence, and one will eventually lose everything of value one has, including one’s life.
Anyone who doubts this need only look at how domestic “law enforcement officials” can now murder mere mundanes in cold blood, on video, yet walk with only a slap on the wrist.
Exactly, and the violence of government then exponentially creates more violence in the areas were they attempt to regulate morality. I use the term morality very loosely to just describe actions that families, individuals, and society express generally negative outlooks (because they tend to create negative outcomes). The overuse of many drugs have negative effect on individuals and family and I am detractor of recreational drug use. However, I believe ethically that recreational drug use must not be made illegal. First, NAP and negative rights. But on a utility level we all know the violent culture that the drug war has created. Same has happened in sex work. Same was occurring around abortion when it was illegal – and you probably know I oppose abortion.
What I don’t want is individual problems exploded into systemic cultural violence. Sex work is just one of those areas that is a prime example of government moralism creating a systimatically violent culture – when the transaction itself is largely peaceful and safe. I can make arguments about how sex work is not healthy for the individuals and how the individuals often engaged are mostly emerging from family violence. But I don’t usually make those arguments as they are taken out of context to support the state violence. It’s tricky and surprising complicated selling “leave other people alone”, there seems to be a human predisposition for meddling. Then give meddling to the state and it becomes violent coercion.
Yup. I just finished watching “Breaking Bad” again on video. Walter White, a mild-mannered chemical engineer screwed out of his due by unethical business partners, found himself descending ever more inextricably into violence.
Why? It was not the fact that he was “cooking” meth. It was the War On Some Drugs that was responsible for the violence. Without the War On Some Drugs, drug addiction is merely a public health issue.
Consider the Portugal experience. The government decriminalized drugs and cut addiction in half.
Walter White’s brother in law, Hank Schrader, was nominally the “good guy”. But in fact he represented the very evil he and his wife Marie, Walter’s sister in law, so self-righteously denounced.
In the fact based film “American Gangster”, Newark PD Detective Richie Roberts says it all.
“They don’t want this to stop. It employs too many people. Cops, lawyers, judges, probation officers, prison guards… The day dope stops coming into this country, a hundred thousand people lose their jobs.”
The Portugal experiment is typical when I’ve read about other countries doing similar; legalization or decriminalization reduce violence and usage – every time. So if the statists goal is to reduce violence and usage, then the path is clear. On a utility basis, liberty is also the clear path. The sheer volume of propaganda to keep that simple truth from getting a foothold has been epic. I still prefer the base ethical argument of rights. But hell, ethics and utility seem to neither be making a dent. The drug war is going strong and the prison-state is insanely large. The US is the greatest prison state of all time and few seem to care.
Breaking Bad was a great deal of fun and you pegged it, one of the reasons I enjoyed it was the anti-government message – a message few saw I suppose. Without Government, there would have been no violent drug trade for Walter.
“I still prefer the base ethical argument of rights. ”
Absolutely. For me utilitarian arguments are important, but secondary. For me, the moral arguments are always what I hold dear. I have long held that whoever holds the moral high ground, will eventually prevail — in the long run.
Admittedly, the long run may be very very long. Like centuries after we who are living now have all turned to dust. But a quick overview of world history will confirm that the evolutionary trend is irresistible.
One day, the Conventional Wisdom will be voluntaryism/anarcho-capitalism/free market anarchism. It will be that all human interactions must be uncoerced and by mutual consent.
Children will ask their fathers “Daddy, why did people in ancient times think they needed government ordering them around? Were they stupid or something?”
It will be interesting to see how the ‘born-again’ Republicans handle their full control of the Afghanistan poppy/opium trade.
Biz as usual!
You know what’s gross? Males are such whiny cunts now and can’t grow the fuck up. Yea, we’re bitches, because you scum bags turned us into them.
Jesus your bitterness smells from a mile away. If you’re a bitch it’s YOU fault, nobody else. How immature and petty do you have to be to blame 3,800,000,000 men for your attitude problem. Get over yourself, if you can’t give a guy respect he isn’t going to respect you, it’s no wonder you’re so bitter. With an attitude like that I’m sure it’s been years since you physical contact with a guy. On to your second point, last I checked men aren’t refusing women the rights to see their own child, men aren’t using children as weapons in divorces. Men aren’t the ones making false rape accusactions when they are embarrassed by their one night stand the night before. Men aren’t claiming they should be treated as adults but not held accountable for their actions when they CHOOSE to consume alcohol. You better shut up and enjoy the high ground while you have it sweetie.
Great comment you just made since that woman is a complete loser altogether anyway.
Nicole you are totally right! I can’t stand males, well, mostly whites males because I have male friends and relationships but these men aren’t white, in fact, they are real men who doesn’t spend their time complaining like a little bitch and love independent women and women who are strong and they will NEVER ever be intimidated by a woman. But a lot of men nowadays are such losers that you just can’t respect them and they aren’t manly at all, it’s pathetic to see a man whining about how women don’t want him or don’t need men anymore lol you are a loser, deal with it or do something about it but stop blaming women for your shitty life.
And for me, I laugh at those losers, I’m an attractive woman, with my own money and I do whatever I want, I can have sex when I want too and I know that weak men hate women like me, only a weak man need a woman to depends on him to feel useful or like a man.
Nicole have you calmed down and seen the light yet?
I’m dating a grown man. I don’t need to worry about the losers on this page. =D
Take that as a no then. I hope the future divorce isn’t too rough on you =D
Roflmfao I don’t need to worry about a divorce, unlike you. ^_^
Lol another fucking idiot who will never get it.
Women aren’t even bothering to sleep with you morons anymore because you’re not worth out time.
Good we don’t want you, atleast youwill be a genetic dead end, because it takes men to make babies but only a moron would even consider having any with you, good bye thank god your type will slowly die off.
Maybe. But you’re still a cunt. And men of means can go to other countries and get real women.
Said the pathetic low life loser woman herself.
Said the Gay woman herself.
Said the Retarded woman herself.
Women like you really are very worthless and clueless altogether to begin with.
Brutally honest as always. This one really puts things into perspective – well done.
Nah, just retarded.
Wow Roosh, haven’t seen such grim post in a while. Was really one of those classic red-pill observations about naked truth.
Yep, indeed. Sad but so very true. I went out the other night and I could see it happening right before my eyes. Women just looking for the best new “shiney” thing in their life to distract them. Pretty sad.
It’s worth noting that young women are getting unhappier as this unfolds.
The evidence is literally in front of us – as the amount of tattoo ink races to catch up with the ever expanding female bulk…
Agree. Pretty soon they’ll only need to stand still while teenagers sneak up to spray graffiti on these “structures” (no tat required).
No we’re not. We’re happy as fuck to be free of you morons.
No tattoos here. HAHA
Happy as fuck huh…hahaha ok…whatever. It’s the men who are happy because they no longer have to serve a putrid piece of bile like you.
Lol another fucking idiot.
Said the real loser herself.
Roosh is totally correct about the girls needing to want a man in the first place. A stated desire is a complete prerequisite for a relationship in today’s world. In mathematics, they say “Randomness corrodes meaning in formal contexts” (essentially, the principle of entropy) and the same is true for relationships: People who say “If it happens, it will just happen!”….invariably die childless and alone. People have to want it.
But I am not as pessimistic about LTRs and such with a girl who does want it as Roosh is. If she openly states she wants a man, then most likely she has more strength and responsibility than the average Westerner.
yeah, women want a long term relationship because their sexual value dies and the most Roosh is willing to offer is a “mini-relationship”, so he’s not really willing to make any deal they want either….
Because he isn’t a grown man and women sense this. Duh.
In case you haven’t figured it out, no one cares for your commentary.
Ok i agree with this too. Its the right question to ask. Sometimes i do sometimes i dont. Not necessiarily about anything but whats going on in my life at that time. If i say no, im either already involved, or i dont have the time to be good company.
I have an issue with guys who make assumptions and cant take no for an answer. Oh and Ive seen ladies who have pulled the same stunts.
People have the right to turn you down, on both sides.
If it makes your stomach churn, your body has already said “NO”.
You really took the opportunity to tell us all about yourself. I’m not trying to put you down, but your unguarded comment illustrates the intrasexual differences in mentality. Just from reading the posts here, you can see that men will use abstract theories to tease out a logical stance on an issue, whereas women are devoid of this function, preferring a more subjective approach. And with modern-day ego-centrism, they’re completely discouraged from exploring such higher mental facilities. It’s not a great basis upon which to confer ‘equality to all’. But do stick around – there is much to be learned from all this great male wisdom.
Let’s just put it how it is- males will play games to try to understand what’s going on in a woman’s head and women will just outright tell it how it is and try to ask.
Sweetie, it’s the males with the issues with the ego, not females.
No male wisdom here, nor greatness.
Why would we ever need you again? LOL if this is the way males think, you’re no longer men.
Rather be alone and childless than with some fucking asswipe who doesn’t appreciate me and treat me well, you know, like a fucking human.
We appreciate women. Calm down. Not sure where you are getting all this.
It would figure that a pathetic loser woman like you started this topic to begin with.
Wait! Not true! Men are not “just clowns” to women. They also have the potential to be indentured surrogate dads to their fatherless kids, most of whom end up deeply troubled since they’re from broken single-mother homes. If you sign up for that, you can expect to lose your money, time, patience, reputation, and end up with a miserable, ungrateful stepkid and resentful woman (who gets your house). What a great deal! Glad we overthrew that oppressive, old-fashioned family for this cool new corporate-run model. This is liberation at its best.
You left out her hitting the wall and nagging you to death when you are not off slaving away. Then you are expected to kiss ass to her stupid friends and family during your prime off time while listening to her same old banter when you are alone with her.
Dum Dum Toronto women are far better than morons like yourself. I wouldn’t even let you kiss my sweet little poophole because you might infect it with your desperation you can’t even get laid by the way you write on ur post
Toronto Women?!?!?! Wow that is such bullshit! You’re even giving the impression that you think you’re a higher, more important entity than everyone here. BTW if actually set foot Countries like Russia, Brazil, China, or even Mexico you would be dead by now. I know this because I’ve been to those Countries and I read articles about Some woman from Toronto getting her head chopped off or getting shot to death and even her throat slit because they pissed ofthe locals from one of those countries. Now regarding your city, if you compare the women of Toronto Ontario to other Canadian Cities like Montreal QC and Vancouver BC, even in other countries like Columbia, Argentina, South Korea, Bulgaria, And Ukraine you are ugly as hell and you have an ego so big, and an arrogance reserve so large, that whenever you get into an argument with a guy you’ll continue the need to debate with them until you can get to a point of where your fat globuled veins and arteries feel safe and secure. My point is what makes you so special? BTW I’m Canadian too but i’ve spent most of my life living in and visiting over 35 countries
“I know this because I’ve been to those Countries and I read articles
about Some woman from Toronto getting her head chopped off or getting
shot to death and even her throat slit because they pissed ofthe locals
from one of those countries.”
For real? Not Brazil. Brazil would never put up with this crime.
Brazilians are not the irrational monster you want to make out of them.
Typical shaming language. This “cant get laid ” talk is played out bitch , get the fuck outta here.
dumb whore talking back…
no one cares about your dirty ass hole.
Toronto women are terrrible compared to women from NYC. They are 6s (at best) trying to act like 8s or 9s. Not impressed at all by these women. I’ll go to Vancouver or Montreal any time of the year versus ever going to Toronto.
No really. They’re loudmouthed trash who couldn’t turn on a light bulb. You’ll have to excuse me, I need to go vomit after thinking about kissing your peanut and corn-filled shithole.
Most of you women are just so rotten and nasty today, and you’re such losers too.
You surely are talking about men not women.
Most women today are very Stupid.
Nope. And of course women are the clowns. What kind of creepy motherfucker paints their face and lips and hair and tries to smile and laugh their way through life? Women. And clowns.
You’re absolutely right.
Then again if many of you women had a brain, you would be very dangerous.
Spoken like a worthless cunt. No one in their right mind would want to associate with such a disease ridden petri dish of walking disease such as yourself. Not to mention the “winning” personality you show… women… God’s first and only mistake.
Hmmmm … are you talking about men? Disease ridden … need to stick their cock in anything that moves and actually anything that doesn’t. Shaming? I know more male whores than female … Men are clowns with the stupid shaming tactcs. Good golly go beat off or find a prostitute … isn’t that what makes a man happy … squirting some cum? A man is a real man the more cum he squirts. It is amazing to me how distasteful it is to the male when he sees his behaviors mirrored by the female population. Ironic … men created this environment of wanting free and easy sex now can’t stand what it has come to. And, men think they are the rational gender. Good golly. I learned a very good lesson from the male gender … dated my now ex … we were exclusive for 5 years … accidental pregnancy …. he just wanted to screw, no commitment there, we murdered the child through abortion because the silly clown man only wanted to screw, didn’t want to deal with a “traditional” family …. clowns, the clown had too many seeds he needed to sow. Go screw until your dicks fall off, spread your diseased thinking and maybe the world will become a better place. I Learned a valuable lesson about clown men
You can’t trust them, their cock and the diseases that go with it is their world and their GOD.
Projecting much bitch. Do this world and abort yourself from it. Last I checked it was women initiating divorces in far greater numbers then men so that just proves that women ain’t shit and loyal only to the BBD. SO whateve your saying is simply more female hamsterbation. Eat a dick and d-e.
Maybe the bbd has more to offer than you
Now what very pathetic low life loser woman would start a topic like this to begin with? This women really needs to get a life.
Aww good for you
What you doing out of kitchen ? Go make me a sandwich..
Why aren’t you out… Providing… Bringing home bread for breasd… Giving me money for makeup and new clothes. Buying the house paying the bills playing for insurance making sure we have enough for me to volunteer.
What makes you think I don’t have WiFi connection in the kitchen? Still stuck in the stone age mentality, much?
Ok.. but first go get my sandwich !
Haha you’re a doll
Men can never be more than abusive, perverted sex addicts as long as mothers keep raising us with that crap in mind. All women do today is bitch and moan instead of actually teaching their sons to love themselves and be proud of themselves. Instead of great mothers who want the best for us, we get bitter, man-hating bitches like yourself. We grow up feeling ashamed of having penises when we didn’t do anything to our mothers… other than exist. Who do you think you are to tell us what we deserve and what we need as men?? You’re not a man. You can’t love your man unless you’re willing to actually hear him when he needs something. So, the more women like you spew your vile crap at men, the more it makes men feel like you’re all incapable of love.
I appreciate comments like yours but often I wonder if you’re just speaking to a brick wall. The level of discourse rarely transcends that of a 6 year old in these matters, which is why things like “The Battle of Berkeley” do not surprise me one bit.
Yea, I live in Cambodia now, well insulated from all this utter lunacy, but I see the western white whales that come here to “Save the children” and they are like brainwashed zombies, anyway after extensive research it appears for the past 30 years this weird elite cult has been using military grade mind control/brainwashing on everyone, they put chemicals in the tap water which people in western countries drink from, in Asia they only drink bottled water, anyway so for 30 years they have been doing this and also lying every single day to everyone using the media and with the new thing they call “fake news” everyones slowly going insain because now we don’t know what’s real and whats not, it fucking bizarre to watch and the real losers will be the woman, which actually I enjoy because the way these woman are treating men I hope they all hang themselves with only their 10 cat’s watching them die.
I cant help but wonder if the real issue is a lack of respect and fair dealing on both sides?
I mean, i have been just as angry at the prejudiced treatment ive gotten at the hamds of some men. But ive seen women be every bit the bully the guys are.
I dont agree with the general racist garbage, but these guys have a point. Somewhere in their life there was a bully.And it may very well have been a woman.
Guys, I know Im asking a lot of you when i say, read “Understanding the borderline Mother”.
It was the most painful book i ever read, but it taught me so much about the origins and most important, the patterns of abuse.
If you have ever dealt with “The waif, the hermit, the queen, and the witch”, all in the same woman, this book is for you.
And boys arent the only ones who suffer from her, the girls do, too.
This book will make you understand that every effort you ever made to escape the tyranny was the right thing to do.
Thanks for the book recommendation
I would imagine that with things like abuse it’s often pernicious, difficult to notice, and obscured by (or even contained in) the minutia, which allows it to proliferate so much. For the same reason I find gardening so fascinating, often your plants are dead because you failed to notice the extremely tiny bugs that had been crawling all over it for weeks. And you can’t apply the same principle to all plants, watering all your plants in the same manner can kill some while bringing life to others.
I will fucking rape you and lick your asshole night and day. I will fucking put a balloon in ur poophole to store your fart and burst it on your face when it’s filled. I will paint your poophole with sweet red jelly. Any ideas why girls dont shit icecream?
god i am compelled to comment. u stupid crazy bitch.u would be rendered useless by sexbots. just wait for a few years
Please go get a sex bot… please. We can’t wait to be “rendered useless” by sex bots because then losers like you won’t make harassing sexual comments to us ladies anymore.
I am never going to dream of ever having sex with u. Fuckng ever. U will be rendered irrelevant. unfortunately this is a fact. And considering how ugly you are you may even have difficulty finding a man to have sex with even
Maybe if you actually got up off your fat ass and took care of this shit you said you were going to, women wouldn’t have a reason to nag. OMG….!
Nah I don’t expect you to kiss anyone’s ass. You can stay home, alone, in a one bedroom apartment and leave women the fuck alone since you can’t be a decent grown man.
God’s forbid you have to listen to a woman. I wonder how you assholes would feel if women treated you this way.
Dayum, the post is not even about you Nicole. This post was about human men discussing about human women. You should go and poke your nose where male pigs complain about female pigs. That is where you belong. Now please leave us, humans alone and go make a sandwich.
Why would I tread where your mother goes? That’s your area, not mine.
This woman unfortunately isn’t human at all since that idiot really started this topic in the first place to begin with.
I actually like Nicole. I don’t think you’re all that bad.
Thanks Mark. <3
I'm actually pretty fuckin' awesome. I would fight for equality for anyone, gender and race regardless. I just will never encourage trashy males.
Don’t forget being forced to work any job to pay the monthly child support bill unless you want to share a cell with ray ray at the local city jail.
I feel that if the child is living with the dad, the mother should pay child support. Unfortunately, many don’t.
Do shut up. Plenty of males cheat and deserve to have everything taken from them. Maybe if ya’ll weren’t so pathetically daft and treated women with respect, dignity, and as humans, we wouldn’t get resentful. Ever think of that one, genius?
I will rape you to death and no one will save you because no one wants you, and even your white knights won’t bother to save you because they know you are such a pile of shit, you have no protection, they all left you, gone…pooof…hahaha now who’s the fucking loser.
I dare you to try, little boy. You’ll end up dead so quick and legally as you just threatened me.
Owwww and what are you going to do…QUICK CALL THE POLICE SOMEONE OFFENDED ME! owwwww sad to be you…it really is..what a piece of shit you are.
You are such a fat pathetic pile of shit no real man would even touch you with a 10 foot pole, and to even think of raping such a disgusting beast of a monster like you?…keep dreaming…keep reading your 50 shades of gay.
I’m sure you are exactly the insult you’re trying to throw at me. Funny how I have courage enough to show my real face and real name and here you are, keyboard warrior, trying to act like a big man. How funny!
Is that your picture? How sad.
I always find it hilarious when a fucking waste of space and joke of life of a person who is too ugly to put up their own picture, when they try and utterly fail (like everything else in their lives) at insulting me.
Bitch, please. You’re a joke and so is every other man-child like you. You’re a disgrace to grown gentlemen.
OMG!!! Nicole! You’re a shapeshifter. That is pretty impressive actually. Here’s a pic of me posting this comment in my steam bath.
You really need a hobby.
You got that right.
You are so disgusting you should just get a rope and hang yourself for the good of all mankind, even rapists don’t want you.
Follow your own advice, sad little troll. I’m doing work for the good of mankind. Sadly this includes low lives like you, but hey, it’s what I enjoy doing.
What exactly do you do that contributes positively to society?
Even full blown muslim gangbangers dont want to rape you thats how disgusting you are.
I find funny how must of you sexist pigs who complain all the time about nowadays women also complain about muslims or arabs… is that because you are scared of them just like you are scared of strong women?? yeah, it’s exactly because of that. You are weak and have an inferiority complex, it’s too easy to see, nobody respect a weak man, maybe it’s cruel but that’s the truth. How much as I hate religious people and religions I can see that most muslims men are more manly and brave that western men, maybe that’s way so many of you are so scared of them. I live in Paris and I had see it too many times! guys who complain about arabs, blacks.. etc but when they see a group of them in the streets or even a couple of them they run lol it’s so pathetic to see in what kind of pussies western men have become.
We don’t want strong, independent woman get it in your thick skulls, men want family orientated caring, gentle, loving home orientated woman, not competitive cunts like you, its just a BIG turn off men do NOT like being bitched at! Get it yet?…and your shaming languages do not work anymore men simply do not give a shit anymore what woman think, we don’t care, go jump off a bridge for all we care, we don’t need you either!.. And woman lost the respect of men when they bashed on masculinity constantly and demonizing and alienating men for the past 40 years cunt!
And unfortunately the Rope would break anyway with her luck.
I have great respect for most of the great manosphere writers, those who write and practice game like monks from an eastern monastery. I have no problem with the PUA lifestyle that it enables.
Even though I have never practiced game for the purpose of simply getting easy lays, I have always felt exactly as Roosh describes here, that becoming a PUA or developing game simply for the purpose of serial manogamy is little more than making yourself the designer outfit on sale. I still feel game is something that every man should learn, and I still believe that a man’s value irrespective of women can be defined by his ability to attract women. However, I think game has a higher purpose, and that purpose is actually forcing women to either accept a constructive role in society, or accept their fate as serial manogamists with little to no reproductive future.
This, to me, would require using game for one purpose only, successful reproduction from a committed woman.
Regarding children, the only people having them in large numbers are poor and uneducated people (note I did not write ‘families’).
Educated and professional couples are delaying breeding until they no longer can or simply have dogs instead of kids.
The only hope is to travel and breed in another country with greener pastures.
Name a few countries for us to look into-
Don’t leave us with a cliff hanger man.
The fact that Russia is distancing itself from the West is great news. Outside of Moscow, Russian women are still traditional. Plus, even in Moscow they are still better than Western women. There are other traditional countries but they worship Western culture and will soon be contaminated.
The West is nothing but the Zionist central bankers juggernaut to bully and threaten anyone who doesn’t let
Old Jew businessmen in Manhattan and Tel Aviv railroad them into submission.
I would imagine some
Of the other non feminist/Zionist gender breakdown brainwashing countries are in the Balkans or Baltics-we all know Western Europe and Scandinavia are intellectual and cultural post modern feminists cess pools.
yes they are soo traditional they can still their wives as their quoraan allow,but what woman wont wan that
The problem is they don’t speak English – only Russian
ya and these girls he speaks of are abortioning many . Making themselves sicker and sicker.
ouch…. The truth hurts when we back it into a corner, doesn’t it?
It’s not just that women believe they do not need us. Every job I have ever held viewed me the same way. Yes, I do a good job, but not so much that they cannot replace me with a new kid beating down the door to take my place. My current gig goes as far as to tell me this to my face.
The cruel irony, is that they may think they don’t need me, but the reality is different. Every real job I have ever left, has been reduced to limping along without my presence. One place even gave up the ghost entirely.
No, I may not be critical their survival, but I make the difference between thriving and just living.
Phil, it is true that relationships and the workplace are becoming ever more indistinguishable. Everything is upside-down now. Corporations are run the same way women run/ruin relationships.
Hmm…that means if you can game one, then you can game the other!
Yep, agree Phil. What’s really sad is when you see a domino effect happen after you decide to leave (or they let you go). Many others follow (resign, quit, etc…) because you were the glue holding it all together.
The company eventually folds…and yes, it was all because of you. Stupid companies, stupid owners….and women should take notice because there is a relating ‘trend’ or ‘ theme’ regarding relationships.
I had a sort of funny experience. Very rarely am I in the position that I NEED a particular employer but I did. Red flags all over the place: They needed the guy’s knowledge to keep the business running but didn’t want to give him a decent severance so they instead wanted me to shadow him as a temp replacement for vacation so they could lay him off.
I puke at myself for going through with it. Of course, in the end they decided to not hire me either and they laid off both of us and suffered the resulting instability.
This made me realize how appearance is EVERYTHING in business. In a market based competitive system, since so many companies have egotistical managers with layabout workers that kiss their butts then the competition doesn’t knock them out. It’s kind of how soviet socialism plodded along for decades.
Strangely enough, I learned one lesson that I keep to this day: Managers respect my value, daily, and know they can fire me or lay me off and i’ll survive (I have savings) and that they can survive too (albeit in a reduced manner) and not to **** with me. I have a deal: I don’t mess with them and they don’t mess with me.
Idiot….a relationship where you transcend the humdrum can’t be compared to a “job”. This is the problem ldiot. You are comparing Apples to Orangutans. Idiot.
Well put. Men are just socially acceptable dildos.
And magic money machines.
and killers of bugs and icky spiders….eeeww
They are?
Yes my dear. Men are taken for granted frequently and it is just assumed they’ll provide for women, even by the same women who have no qualms about mistreating responsible, generous men.
Unfortunately that is often very true. How sad.
Maybe the issue isn’t the woman… if you feel so mistreated… maybe you should stop dating or marrying or hanging around terrible people.
The issue clearly is the woman, or should I say women, as that is the issue at hand. I am speaking in general terms of course.
Your comment shows as expected a complete lack of concern for the issues men suffer and disregards any of the faults of said women. We are talking about society as a whole, not the individual.
You basically just said, “I know you are but what am I.”
This is a classic excuse for women to get out of any responsibility. It sounds so juvenile, it makes it really hard to take you all seriously as adults. I mean, maybe Jack Nicholson was right about you all. How does he write women so well? “I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.” That’s how you could describe almost every teenager out there.
Hahaha
good job revealing the moronic state of the contradictors of this page’s thesis
Then again with all that Lipstick that they put on makes them real Clowns, especially with all that makeup.
Why do you care if someone wears makeup…
Most women today are very Pathetic.
Sounds like it takes a pathetic parasite to know one
Low Life Loser women like YOU are everywhere now.
Awwww how touchy… Does your mommy still wipe you?
Burn in hell Bitch.
Awwww don’t worry… I’ll pretend i know you in hell when i there in the vip
Said the Pig.
Oink
queen of angels ftw
Dildos that can’t even vibrate, glow in the dark or have the hardness last for that long lol.
amen!
well we have to consider the environment– trying to find a romantic girl in a purely brutal feminist regime like America is now is like trying to find pure blood donors in some country where they have 50% AIDS infection rate… it’s just the wrong place for be looking for that particular item…
Well said! You nailed a big point behind all of it:
Trying to find a *romantic* girl.
Well today, they go from sweet and happy children to….what we have today. They never were so aggresssive in the past. They are being raised to be this way, to be competitive to men themselves, aggressive and defensive, in many ways far away from their own natural instinct of preference – of nurturing a mate and a child in a safe, productive, happy environment.
Instead in this fast paced hostile society they are encouraged to be stronger and bolder than the men around them. It’s no wonder our birthrate’s are below replacement levels and naturally born men in NA seek a loving mate in other countries, in the quest for finding someone who is raised to value what he is naturally.
Warmth and romantic ideals here in NA aren’t spoken about or encouraged growing up for most ladies. Having younger females showing how tough and strong they are in sports on the other hand…well just dandy..
Women always try to dominate and set the terms of the relationship. they also overplan any holiday bday or vday months in advance . and then they complain complain and complain and complain and complain and complain etc etc etc
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance (counterculture or domestication?)
Roosh is standing, standing, standing…at the fork in the road. Tune in next time. Same bat channel.
That basically sums up how a mangina comes to be.
In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer,
Hell of a line. Well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4KWs
http://therationalmale.com/2012/04/13/have-a-look/
“Women have become casting agents.”
Now there is two Losers in the picture above.
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I certainly agree.
The skirt analogy is perfect.
I have been a long-time read, and this is by FAR the best post you have ever written.
Such a realization. I have lost so many girls for seeking connection or love, while sex has become easier than ever to get.
And how much fun is sex when there’s nothing more behind it? It’s like a spending an hour on the treadmill and that’s it. If a man can’t trust that she’ll be there, that she cares, that she actually enjoys being with him, it’s like fcking a fire hydrant.
Luke you’re forgetting…. You’re a grown man speaking to little man-children. Gods I love grown men like Luke.
Thanks for being awesome, Luke!
This observation is sad, but from my ongoing personal experience it is also true. Women really don’t need men. This is evidenced by the fact that well over half of the women in America are overweight in some sense. If they truly cared about finding a good man, they would not allow themselves to become so fat. This sucks pretty bad for us, boys. Its really beginning to look like slim-pickins’ out there in the modern Western dating world if you’re looking for attractive, young women who are worthy of dating. There are still some tight,young, slim girls out there, but the competition for them is fierce. These women command a premium high above their actual SMV. A high supply of thirsty, sexually desperate men (represents sexual demand), combined with a very limited supply of attractive women creates a pretty tough market for the average man to compete in. This is really nothing new to economics.
Given the imbalance in the SMV, it is understandable that average women view men as easily available stimulus. There will always be a supply. That is, of course until they pass The Wall.
Actually, they don’t change after the wall, but instead continue to run the same drama scripts, usually with increasing desperation, utilizing increasingly low-rate men. These men will sex and/or marry them, keeping The Fantasy alive. Spin, hamster cage, spin.
This, as you might guess, is pretty tough on kids, especially little boys trying to grow into men. Yes, females profit economically and materially from the matriarchy, and so do their parents . . . but others pay a v high cost. And of course it’s unsustainable.
Fair enough. Women get crazier and in their early 50s the Hamster spins for his life. Perhaps it only ends once women pass menopause, and the strogen feeding the Hamster stops.
Well boss from the limited sample i’ve observed, men-o-pause can slow the Hamsterlator, but not still it. Yes the sexual component usually alters, but the underlying psychospiritual conditions (acquisition and security of Top Social Marker Male, emptiness of God etc.) do not change. The Script — if not The Song — remains the same.
Agree that late forties, early fifties, the modern western female’s hamstercompass careens wildly. Remember that almost NONE of these females are under the guidance of an actual man. They’re all Independents, including the “married” ones. So we see these Empowered Oldies all over our cultures, shredding masculinity and fatherhood at every opportunity, demanding more anti-male laws, more mancages, etc.
At that point, regardless of past behaviors, most women believe they SHOULD have snagged a TSMM, and if they havent, and most havent, then guess whose fault it is, and who’s gonna pay? That’s what their government is for.
Cheers.
“So we see these Empowered Oldies all over our cultures, shredding
masculinity and fatherhood at every opportunity, demanding more
anti-male laws, more mancages, etc.”
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
When the current crop of carouseling pre-spinsters finally hits the wall and discovers politics, watch out.
There’s never been a generation of women more alienated and socially disconnected from men.
With their superior numbers, encitement from pre-existing man hostile lobbies, and having little to lose by angering the few men in their already barren personal lives, they will use the ballot box to hatefuck us all.
“There’s never been a generation of women more alienated and socially disconnected from men.”
Yeah this is unprecedented, nothing really even close thru history. Most females operate a lot on shared/group consciousness, and the politicization of this herd is diabolically effective, appealing to a v broad spectrum of biases, desires, fears, and demands, which emerge as an unreformable, self-serving polity.
I enjoy seeing, this site and elsewhere, resistance to this clever form of totalitarianism. Cheers
You just summed up gender dynamics in the USSA for the past 50 years and the clever zog/nwo bankers who made all this mayhem occur so the rockefellers and rothschilds
Could have two corporate cog wage slaves to tax incomes, put their goy slaves kids into govt brainwashing/”public education”, and promote all their cultural
Chicanery to warp further generations.
No need to bring sad youtube-university conspiracy bullshit to the table.
An actual contributing dynamic behind the long-term growth of the state in both spending and “reach” could well be the advent of female voting in Western nations. Female voting only started around 100 year ago. A few years earlier, only men who owned property could vote in many Western countries.
In the US, one of the first social impacts of the female vote was a shrill, largely FEMALE LED crusade for the PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL…
No, they won’t. The money is gone – the big Western nations are in terminal central-government debt situations.
The US, Italy, France, Spain, Japan, Britain… France hasn’t run a budget surplus since the early 1970s.
This applies to all these nations, but to use the US as an example, at time of writing (October 2014), the US federal debt is $17 trillion and growing. When O got in I think it was about $5 trillion.
It’s over. As in, the “USA” and democracy itself are winding down (democracy will return in the future). The modern industrialised civilisation in North America will still be there, but it will have a new name and different politics.
Fascism & “strong men” are coming. No-one is going to listen to a feminist in these times – indeed, feminists will be seen as part of the indulgent old-order that contributed to the social collapse. A few fems will be strung up on lamp posts. Many feminists will actually become normal people again as economic collapse forces people to step down from collective economic-bubble-era delusions.
Who knows what will happen for sure, but the strife will last decades and will be awful.
“There’s never been a generation of women more alienated and socially disconnected from men.”
That’s unprecedented but so true. There’s no historical reference to help us successfully deal with this situation. What can we do? As long as women have the manginas in the government by the balls, we’re all like pawns.
What’s scary is that modern American is starting to remind me of Soviet Russia after the Revolution. No one person has value over anyone else. It’s a nice sentiment. BUT at the end of the day, when everyone in the country realizes that they’re nothing but disposable pawns, they become miserable. And that’s why the Soviet Union collapsed.
One of your better posts- good analysis on he menopause set
Many dont even consider.
20s they are entitled cock carousel riders
30s wall and scam a beta
40s yolo and take betas assets
50s hampered brain bombs into insanity and many are left torn in aftermath
There are hamster cages that spin, now? I think I’ll be getting one of those!
It may sound like an the fantasy of an omega nerd, but it bares repeating because unfortunately, it’s the truth: the only (and I mean ONLY) permanent way out of this impasse is via technological replacement of the female. The age of sexbots is the age of male salvation.
That’s here. It’s called porn on a screen. No need to build some bullshit robot.
I’m a man, but I also recognise that without female pickiness – humans would not have evolved into our modern state. If every single knuckle-dragging male ever got to pass his genes on, humans wouldn’t have changed.
At least we’re not dying in an awful protracted ice-age like our ancestors faced (if you’re Caucasian). That period shaped us by the way, and put us on top.
Porn is still made “using” real women, unless you only watch gay porn (yum!) or digital porn, hentai and shit like that.
At least admit you guys only care about sex. You guys keep talking about family unit, fathers, blah blah blah… but you guys only care about sex, while shaming women for giving what you guys want. Some kind of bipolarity there.
And what does that mean, will you guys try to kill “flesh” females, then? Just admit your psychopathic, “gendercide” tendencies for once, American idiots. How will robots replace women? Wouldn’t women use the robots to replace males as well? I mean, they will be even better than dildos and vibrators, right?
You guys are so weak that you guys want robots, that have no minds of their own, to be your sex partners! LMAO! Of course, only a robot could be programmed to show (fake) “desire” and horniness for your flabbily hairy American bodies, but come on… the problem is you if your lack of attractiveness is that big.
What a nice, sexist generalization of modern men. You must be a feminist troll.
hahahahaah — This all is pathetic. Half of the men on this site would gouge each other men’s eyes out if you were in the same room. You all act like friends and brothers … yet the real truth is, you’d stab each other in the back to get a little sex. hahahaha. Do you khow what the real problem is and has been? Hey, go stick you cock in the couch and hump it if you haven’t a clue. Male whores … you are all so cheap and predictable and disease ridden and pass along all those diseases. You attempt to shame females who behave the same all the while ignoring your two faced baloney. hahahahah And, the guys on here whining about fat women, slim pickings … a fat head (the one on top of your shoulders) is worse than a fat waist line … it is as ugly as it can get. Go hump a few things, walk about, the woman can abort it, maybe she will have it and take your butt to court so you can pay for it, then you can do some more whining, you can then start the cycle over with another female, you know cause you are not ready to settle down and commit … to many wild oats to sow (pussies to screw) or you just haven’t figured out what you want and are willing to poke whatever comes along while you are trying to find the one – sex, whine, abort, complain, reset, sex, whine, abort, complain, reset. — whine, whine, whine so pathetic.
Said the low life loser.
No, you don’t get it. And why should you? It’s not like you are the empathetic feeling-perceiver that women were in the past.
But if you were, you might realize that you will be replaced because, no longer offering empathy, compromise-ready family qualities or excellent baking skills, your only value IS sex. If that same sensation can be replicated, your entire existence will be unwanted. Then maybe you can learn to run after men instead of making fun of men who don’t succeed in line for you because they don’t have the oops-short-circuited-the woman’s-brain-again skills to bed you.
Fuck you
I’m actually quite empathic (feeling-perceiver? lol). For real, I am. It’s just that I don’t respect idiots.
I could care less about what other men think of me, what they believe I should be offering or not, whatever. Most men only care about getting the D or taking in the ass and I’m fine with that. I only care about having sex with them as well (unless it’s American men, then no – these fat/flabby hairy uncivilized shits are worth nothing, I won’t even be using them as dildos as they suck overall).
“baking skills” lmao.
Do you offer all of the traditional “masculine” traits to actually attract a slave of a woman, I mean, a “feminine” woman? Men stopped being traditionally masculine way before women stopped acting like submissive slaves for them.
But really, are you talking about women,there? Or are you implying I’m “girly”? Garbage regardless.
Well, maybe you could understand just one thing: women’s value isn’t about what they can (or should, in your sick mind) do to men. Women in America and most of the developed world have most of the jobs, most of the degrees, are making most of the money in their age group, have influence, start their own business and are the majority of the ones helping other people by voluntary work. They are just living their lives, they are the ones who get to decide what is their value, as each individual in this world gets to choose for him/herself. Women weren’t “created” for men, and the reverse is also true.
The existence of idiots like you pisses me off, but hey, what can I do? I’ll keep living my life, just go about yours. Everyone is free to be as idiotic as they please. I won’t be crying because you are not the ideal man for me who isn’t letting me fuck you in the ass as you *should* be doing, I won’t be an ass who believes you should be acting the way I believe you should just so you could please me sexually or be marriage material. You don’t live for me and I’m fine with that.
What you said was very very accurate. Don’t get why some men don’t understand that. For a woman to play her feminine role the men have to be able to afford it (I would say “money is the problem”). Mitt Romney’s wife play that role pretty well because he take home enough money to allow her to do that and just stay home with the kids and take care of them like a traditional wife. But the thing is most men these days only complain and can’t provide enough, so now both husband and wife have to work to make ends meet. That alone killed tradition. I believe woman want to be home with the kids, cook, clean, etc. and play the traditional wife role, it’s just that the average men can’t no longer provide that environment. Since both husband and wife now have to work, I think the husband should be the one to cook, clean, etc. because male are the stronger sex. But noooo, men still come home and does little and still want woman who now have to work to cook and clean which is unfair, so they file for divorce.
Exactly. I never understood why men felt like they should be the deciders and regulators of feminine behavior. Most masculine men go bat shit crazy when a woman tries to tell them what to do.
Stop playing victim (this goes for both men and women, actually). You don’t like feminists? Fine, then leave them alone. You don’t like fat, unfeminine, bitchy women? Great, then don’t pursue them and find the ideal woman for you. Will it be tough? Sure, but most things that are worth it, usually are. If such a woman was easy to find, such a woman would have little value. But the worst thing you can do as a man, is to complain and whine about the fact that women nowadays do not meet up to your standards or ideals. No one owes you anything. You’re not entitled to anything.
When you eventually come to that realization, you will tweak your mindset, purposefully go out and find the woman for you, ignore all the others, and in that process, find peace.
Well over half of the men in America are also overweight. There are more overweight men than overweight women in America. And you know that men face even bigger health risks when being that fat; that also mean they are even more unhealthy, as females get fat easier and males have a body built to burn fat fast and build muscles.
Men in American care even less about their attractiveness and health. Fat women in America still, in general, try to dress well enough, shave the excesses of body hair, apply make-up, etc. Now the men? Not even the healthy ones try to put enough effort into their looks.
The obliviousness to the male grossness many of you American males show is hilarious. You guys really believe women are blind and that only you guys want (well, you guys believe you DESERVE, even when you are ugly and gross yourselves) fit bodies to fuck, ahahaha! In all nature females are the ones to choose their mates by their fitness, strength, youth (even older females want and GET younger males as they have the valuable sperm; older females are still due to get pregnant so males don’t care. Even monogamous females “cheat” on their partners with younger, fit males as older males have trashy sperm) and beauty, why would female humans be any different? The stupidity.
It’s funny when your sexist generalizations don’t fit the people you are trying to insult. Meanwhile, as exhibited by your behavior, you are exactly roosh’s
Thank goodness …. some truth.
As a kid I was taught that men and women are different (woman are more emotional and all that crap), but I guess all human are the same. We wanted the same thing.
Funny. You feminist ladies always conveniently forget or ignore how much power women have had actually had throughout history. It’s women that have always set the rules for social conduct. You must act this way or this way in order to gain access to their vagina. NOW that it’s almost impossible for men to please women, now since that pursuit is seen as perverted by feminists, we’re nothing more than clowns. If we’re overweight, it’s because women told us that we don’t matter, that we can do anything without having to think ahead. And the best, healthiest REAL man has forethought. We are natural leaders after all.
There you are again with the sperm obsession
Shouldn’t you enjoy your limited time on this planet? Go fly a kite or something.
Homie, their eggs go to shit after 34, their bodies are saggy and gross, their faces just get worse, their thin skin shrivels up, and god damn ain’t nobody got time to fuck with that. More women than men are obese in the United States, for whatever that’s worth. Matched for age and education they still make less than us.
Many of us do in fact “pick and choose”–female choice and male desperation is not, in fact, a hard rule–and sweetie, the old, valueless hags have to get what they want by *lowering their standards*. There’s no shortage of “poor-ol-me” articles written by old single women who can’t figure out how to get men to pay attention to them. Sucks for them, I guess.
I don’t know if you’ve spent much time in “average America” but the women (and the men) there are not prime catches. The women are frequently just as nasty as some of the most bitter commenters here; they just vent in different places. Things are different among those people who have put in the work to be hot, but: well, they’re hot, so they can easily reap the rewards of their work, male or female.
If you want to lazily cite “all nature” as a justification for… I don’t actually know what your argument is–it seems to have something to do with sperm?–then why not look at chimpanzees? Their females have little value, outside of their ability to reproduce, and they are generally dominated by all males. (You’ll get off on reading “Male chimpanzees prefer mating with old females,” Muller MN et. al. Try to contain your excitement; nobody needs your “trashy sperm” on the tablecloth.) Other primates similarly feature generalized male social and physical dominance. Do you think the females in these groups really have any choice?
Other primates have nearly every arrangement of “who finds it easier to get sex” you can imagine–there are single males maintaining a harem of females, there are single females maintaining a harem of males, and much more. There’s no obvious “natural” conclusion that you can draw from this.
Why did those men of the 60s, 70s and 80s encourage women to stop caring about pleasing their men? It’s the most self-defeatist and self-deprecating attitude I can think of. Those manginas of old robbed their sons of love and companionship. Why would they hate themselves so much? They weren’t the ones robbing, murdering and raping… were they?? They didn’t know it but they also robbed women of what they need to feel confident in who they are… which is the love, comfort and security of their other half. It’s validating their beautiful femininity. It’s complimenting their womanhood. Since women are forced to spend so much time on the female parts, they need to feel good about being women. But feminists insists that they change to be more like men, making them feel ashamed of having vaginas. The concept that men and women are the same or we need the same things in life is so destructive for relationships between men and women. We’re supposed to be two halves a whole.
I agree.
Speaking of the good old days which it definitely was a much easier time meeting women for the men back then since it was a very completely different time altogether the way that our family members had it. Unfortunately a very bad time today for many of us good innocent men really looking for real love now which really explains why many of us men are still single today since the good old days are really all gone now. And many of us men do really blame the women of today that have really caused this real mess in the first place since most of us men Aren’t single by choice either.
Reading posts like this one is like reading good poetry: you think the author took a look at your brain and translated your thoughts into words in such a perfect way that you acknowledge you could have never done it that brilliantly. Perfect, sad but true… a must read.
Myself to a tee lurking here and the Manosphere.
I take it you got dumped Roosh, sorry to hear it mate.
How’s your white cape fitting these days?
I’ve been reading Roosh for 5+ years and this is possibly his best post yet. He’s put in his Gladwellesque 10,000 hours of mastery and he observes and documents patterns that others miss. I’m always looking for ways to incorporate these insights into my life. This short post has given me a lot to think about. The Apple snark is eminently quotable.
The last sentence is chilling.
Cheer up boys! The Sun is still shining. We are living in the most unique period in human history. There is an abundance of cheap, easy food. There is a plethora of entertainment. There is relatively little danger in society. There are almost no responsibilities or expectations culturally of men. Absolute losers are trumpeted has heroes, and role models.
You are living in the most amazing, strange, uncertain, and ultimately hedonistic time in human history. It is likely NOTHING like the era of planetary gluttony will ever be seen again. Cheer up. Drink up! Tomorrow this shit may all be over.
THIS right here…. Overwatch, you summed everything up.
We’re living in the “Oil Age”.
And in the West here, we’re living in the “massive government borrowing age” – where an artificial economic environment (government borrowing & debt) has supported an artificial social-system.
The artificial social-system (because it is not economically self-sustaining without government) includes the generous welfare state, feminism as we know it (which is heavily propped up by female public-sector employment, eg, UK public sector is 65% female), anthropologically absurd mass-immigration and the failed multiculturalism experiments.
The Debt Age (& our fake society) will be coming to an end as the debts reach terminal levels – the international credit rating agencies are the only ones keeping the politicians honest now.
Agree hole 100% with TheOverwatch. I can’t imagine why men on here are complaining and bashing women. For goodness sake … men wanted to run around spreading their seed … a man with some game and graciousness and grooming will get just that (same as women)…. and when both parties are tired of the current game/relationship they can end it and move onto the next … I have my hut and take care of my business and he has his hut and can take care of his slop hole and not hear me complain about having to pick his shit up … best world for everyone, especially if you are over the age of 50 and there are no longer children involved. I LOVE BEING SINGLE and no having to deal with marriage and LTR … when the person and I are dating and we no longer see eye to eye or if he or I go up a pants size … hey, time to end it and move on …. You just can’t beat this … why men are complaining is beyond me.
Men … you can take some responsibility by having the big V done so that you will not have offspring to either abort or pay for … take some damn initiative and control your future instead of letting your lead head do all the thinking … for goodness sake. We all left the world along time ago where we needed each other … now it is a choice and through choices only the better people win. Forcing either a man or a women into needing or doing for another produces conflict and resentment. Good people will continue to find relationships … people who need to work on themselves will complain and blame.
You are despicable. Since you are woman, you do not get to tell us men how we should think or feel about our place in the world. Do you see men telling women to enjoy have periods and going through menopause as if we know exactly what you’re going through?? NO. Because that would be WRONG.
Wow. Great post.
If Roosh et all had hobbies outside of the manosphere they might find themselves in real communities with dynamic, multidimensional women who have interesting personalities whom you can have stimulating relationships with. If you only find and attract dull, shallow, uninteresting people, it could be because you yourself have dull, shallow, uninteresting priorities. Its a wonder the manosphere never talks about much else than banging or working out. The manosphere, besides being obsessive about male prowess to the point of homoeroticism, seems to attract people with the most average taste and basest intellect. Its no wonder you only end up around crappy chicks in lame social situations.
tldr: NAWALT
do what you want, go where you want – *based on what/where you want to do/go that isn’t primarily based on getting laid*. girls and sex are great, but secondary. if there was some mission driving you to a city even as abhorrent as toronto, but you believed in the mission, you’d go there, do your thing, and have no trouble hooking up during your downtime. you feel like an entertainment monkey because you’ve been willing to play that part. so it’s your fault.
“The only girls with good personalities who are smart or maybe funny or halfway intelligent or talented, though god knows what the fuck that means, are ugly chicks … and this is because they have to make up for how fucking unattractive they are.”
Quotation marks don’t make something a fact.
No but your comment definitely makes you a faggot.
The quotation marks are because it’s a quote from American Psycho you twat
Ahem. I hope you noticed the word “Psycho”, and it’s implications!
Dear sl:
Read a little bit about statistics, and you will learn that we are surrounded by bell curves—curves more formally known as normal distributions, or Gaussian distributions. All manner of things appear to be distributed normally: people’s heights,IQ scores, examination grades, sizes of snowflakes, errors in measurements, lifetimes of lightbulbs,
weights of loaves of bread, milk production of cows, chest sizes of Scottish soldiers, and so on. So women behavior is not the exception to this rule. the comon sense will tell you that generalizations are not fair but that’s the way it is.
The problem is the kind of generalization. Roosh can’t prove with real researches even 1% of the shit he says.
But I can after 20 years of experiences and a test pool of probably around 1000 women.
“The claims are not true of the whole” – look at how many angry comments are here and you have the audacity to put together this bullshit fact-defying argument? Get the fuck outta here.
Nope, you can’t, even if real experiences that’s not scientific data.
Nope, and you also can’t make me GTFO, you don’t own shit around here. And you are the one talking about angry comments and audacity…
I am looking at mass data, identifying patterns and making assessments. That’s what researchers do. And I already eliminated the personal bias because I’m not even talking about my own experiences.
So, that said, I told you to get the fuck out because you don’t have a leg to stand on. And, as you made clear in your response, like most left-swiping loud-mouthed 3 holed pieces of shit, you don’t make sense, either. How would anything that I am writing convince you that I am uncivilized? Because I tell you to get the fuck out of the conversation because you don’t make any sense? Get the fuck out.
Haha, I love the angry dudes and their hysteria.
You see, you can’t force anyone to “get the fuck out of here”, like I said, you don’t own shit over here. Telling people to “GTFO” doesn’t make them obey you as well. And you are the one to talk about logic…
And no, that’s called “disagreeing”, not “not understanding”.
But whatever, we can’t argument with dumb American dudes, you guys have no emotional control to even think straight for a second.
You even called my gender a “piece of shit”, lmao. If anything, we are of the same gender (or sex), haha.
“Armed with Knowledge” – yeah, that is a common type of username for that kind of degenerate straight American dude. Weird.
Not a single thing you write makes logical sense, but hope you enjoyed the last word. Syke!
Lol, this is somewhat true. Women are hypergamous; that is, they strongly prefer to date up. Most guys are indistinguishable. No social status, brains or money, etc. They have nothing going for them. They are on the same level as the girl they are trying to bang. So they are toys until a real man comes along.
The problem with this is that it still all comes down to “game”. Because if you’re rich and powerful, that doesn’t make a woman inherently sexually more attracted to you. It means you’re being “used”. Is Bill Gates the most attractive or “alpha” male, just because he managed to become one of the richest business owners on the planet? Will women inherently respect him and crave him and fantasize about him as a man because of this? Not in today’s culture. In today’s culture, sexual values have been artificially skewed to favor shallowness, falseness, and degeneracy. We live in an era of deception. “Values”, “truth”, “faith”, “passion”, “purpose”, will all become increasingly meaningless in time. The “alpha” competition of modern society is not the same “alpha” competition in prehistory – in prehistory it was foundational, the origins of classic “manhood”. Because while competitive inner selection was necessary to produce superior people for survival, those people also needed to have enough collaborative value to have collective strength. Collectivity has been humanity’s survival asset. False “alphas” of the fake, manipulative, charismatic, psychopathic variety would have destroyed our species from the getgo. They are not “natural” selection. They are a post-evolutionary mutation, a traitorous parasite to our species. And they are hierarchical. The psychopathic powers at the top, owning the world, like to promote lesser psychopaths because they are more likely to compete amongst each other rather than rise up and cast off the top. A world of psychopathy becomes a world of illusion. Lies become truth. Natural and spiritual evolution loses its path. Religion is just an allegory for these inherent existential truths.
This post is almost comical in its stupidity.
Yeah, because proclaiming that it isn’t true and that you get all the women somehow makes you feel successful and worth something, right? Admit it, you are a woman’s dress and you are a juggling clown on the street like millions. Crazy that we Have to deny the truth because it strikes the root of our natural inclination towards what encompasses success.
Imagine if women who failed to get pregnant were shamed for failing to become fertile and somehow had to prove their worth by denying that they aren’t successful.
Fucking parallel universe here.
To use Platos allegory of he cave- what are some interests that could evolve them from their bland lifestyle?
Illuminate them with your insight?
I’m sure you consider yourself a “dynamic, multidimensional woman” with an “interesting personality”. And therein lies the problem since everyone else sees you (and a scary percentage of western women) for what you are – a delusional, combative waste of time.
And you saying “everyone else” does this or that or sees someone as this or that proves that is true.
Are you actually insinuating that meatheads, the only group to which you cunts flock to in droves for your squirting fun, are the ones complaining here?
Wow, just wow.
So comically true!! Nice job.
Happy ? Ok, understood and it does make sense as the State is Providing for you everything on a Golden plate. But, Proud ? of what !?
Proud because right from “ass wipes” to the “Internet/Facebook/Twitter etc”. are Invented, Innovated and Pioneered by MEN ? And you don’t have to do anything, other than Masturbating and …… !!!
“The manosphere, besides being obsessed about male prowess to the point of homoeroticism, seems to attract people with the most average taste and basest intellect.”
Hahaha! So true.
Manosphere = Gay
This post is as discerning as it is grim. Everything was so much better before smart phones. I mean, just five years ago there was a lot less flaking in the scene. Before smart phones, if I got a girl’s #, I’d probably end up on a date with her. Since smarts phones, the opposite is true. There is a causal relationship between the increased options women have and the flaking and general lack of reliability (and accountability–women today have no honor) men must endure because of it. Game is now a lot of work, for pleasures that are much more fleeting than they used to be. Meanwhile, women in the Anglo world become more intolerable every year–it’s extremely rare to meet a very good-looking woman here in the US who isn’t an entitled cunt, though many men still seem to be too obtuse to see her true colors. Still, this same ignorance saves these guys the pain of knowing just how bad their own condition is, like solders on the battlefield who cannot see the bullets coming.
Why should women today have any concept of honor–of keeping your word, doing the right thing, being accountable, etc.–when no matter what, there’s always a fresh crop of men lining up to get walked on just in order to get laid?
Getting laid should mean a woman got attitude and disrespected a man and got laid out with a right.
Because they don’t have to be held accountable for anything any longer. Our society has now given them a free pass to be “empowering”. That means no more using simple common courtesy at all.
The ‘You go girl’ attitude….has even replaced just everyday manners. Sad but true…..look around.
Exactly. And they still expect us to respect them as adults. Here, they have all the freedom in the world… and they refuse to choose responsibility, honor and love over “Me, me, me.” They literally are making it clear why the patriarchy existed. Why men needed to force these values on women.
beacause they wanted slaves???
Ur an idiot farah , grab a book sometime.
Any recommendations??Or maybe you are just deluded
Making someone behave properly is not akin to making slaves, you moron. Any way smelly c***s like you doesn’t deserve any further explanation !!!
Can the women make the men behave properly ???Oh yean.I forgot ,women don’t have the spiritual and intellectual level to address men thats why it goes one way.And as far as I know the man authority is not limited to directing the wive ti behave properly.
Only a very mentally disturbed woman would start a topic like this since she was Never normal to begin with.
Your comment makes absolutely no sense .
common sense is not “so common”, you filthy bitch !
It does to me.
Well sure it does.
Don’t bother to reply to this creature, it is like; throwing stone on “pile of shit”.
You got that right.
ahahhahahahaha.Bunch of pussies of men who want to feel manly by controling their wives
You might be smelling your mother’s cunt and mistaken it for mine
Said the retarded bitch.
looooooooool.Feel so sorry for your
Lol so because we’re acting more like you males with the “me me me” bs and actually fulfilling our own needs, wants, and desires because your gender has failed for thousands of years to do so… we’re the bad ones? Get fucked by a donkey.
When males actually develop manners as a whole maybe women will treat you with the courtesies you expect but can’t seem to give yourselves.
Women don’t respond to manners…it’s all about “who”. Thor (Chris Hemsworth) could smack you in the face and you would enjoy it versus just your average man. Women say these types of things in society, daily, but it’s all nonsense when you see them in action (practical).
All women eventually hit The Wall eventually. Surprisingly, the prettiest American women can hit the Wall HARD and EARLY – most often by 35 (a little more if their asian).
Take solace brother in that it is truly a Mans’ World. If a man takes care of their health and maintains a healthy lifestyle, men can actually get better (e.g., increased income, status, etc.) and more handsome and distinguished with age. Foreign women outside the U.S. generally regard American men as a good catch and boyfriend and husband material, if that is indeed your end-game – nothing wrong with that even if your an Alpha Male. Foreign women generally prefer older men, rather than younger guys. For indigenous American women, it only gets worse with age – women in America are judged harshly by their appearance, even by other women. American men can always go to southeast asia to find some young, hot chick that will really like you and see you as the great Man that you really are.
Ba-Damn. I’m so happy to be an American Man, God Damn it.
Sounds desperate. but, when yours is a welfare state, and the laws are feminist corrupted. what else to expect? at the end, Women will feel the heat, when men of future generation will show their back.
“If a man takes care of their health and maintains a healthy lifestyle, men can actually get better (e.g., increased income, status, etc.) and more handsome and distinguished with age.”
MORE HANDSOME WITH AGE???? Are you fucking kidding me? Or do you really prefer and get hard for older dudes? That is YOUR taste, then, but please, that is not true at all lol.
Most men start balding way before 35, they find it much harder to lose weight and maintain muscles, they get flabby chests and stomachs, wrinkles. Oh so handsome, indeed! Also, their sperm is now garbage that should never be used for procreation anymore, not if you care about humanity’s future and healthy offspring.
Women all over the planet prefer a hot young uy. The hot young studs have youth, good looks, and stamina (lol) on their side. No baggage, std, or drama to worry about. The older guy probably has a divorced behind him, with children, child support, alimony, and a std. An older body, flabbiness, wrinkles, is probably balding/bald, hard-on problems and a hurting back (LOL) and mutant sperm that should not be used for procreation anymore. What kind of young girl would put with that? Only a stupid lower female or a desperate, financially poor woman. For the young girl, the hot young stud has many more years to assist her in raising children compare to the older guy who will impregnate her with mutated sperm (not the best offspring there, maybe god forbid a sick baby) and in 20 years, she will be wiping his diapers. Gross.
“Foreign women generally prefer older men, rather than younger guys.”
Not most foreign women at all. The only ones that could put up with that are the golddigger ones that want to escape their misery. She won’t like YOU and see you as a great man in any way, though. You are just a tool. Guys that are that blind about their own grossness and oldness and seek young chicks that SHOULD be with young hot studs for the sake of humanity (most women all over the world prefer men up to 2 years older than them), as only young and fit men have valuable sperm, are not great man. Much to the contrary, you guys are the shittiest trash to ever exist in this planet, using your money to manipulate young poor females and ending up screwing our genes with your mutant sperm, and in the end human civilization.
Men like you are shit. Not “alpha” at all. Any real alpha would punch you in the face for wanting to screw humanity and our genetic pool even more.
That was funny
You sound sad and desperate. Do you not like the idea of a man owning his autonomy, having personal agency, telling women to go fck themselves?
u been saying some real sht up until now LOL now u just sound like ur trolling and just saying w/e u have to as long as it disagrees with w/e anyone says on here QQ just saying LOL…
We have swallowed the red pill. We are now on the Nebacanzza, except that there is no hot loving Trinity that we get to fall in love with.
I am not sure how I landed on this page while looking for something else, but oh boy! I didn’t think the dating scene is equally hard for guys as it is for some of us shy girls. Yes, that’s right I am a girl. After reading some of the posts here I have realised how a girls shyness can be assumed as being rude (mental note to correct this in myself) how making connection with modern woman is equally difficult for men as it is for women themselves. Being of eastern decent and having grown up in a household with traditional values where I was constantly reminded the importance of being independent was very confusing. However it made sense right after my first real job. I was financially independent but not emotionally independent so getting married seemed to be the right thing to do, with a guy who I thought I had a connection. Now my worlds were torn apart when being financially independent he wanted me to behave as a submissive wife seeking his permission for everything that mattered to me. I was prepared to ‘submit’ if this was beneficial to the relationship but not where he could go about his life with gambling away my hard earned money. My objections to this made him feel less of himself and I was accused of being ‘strong headed’ ‘dominating’ female who did not know how to live with a man. So I decided to leave him and haven’t been back to the dating scene since. Reading this makes me think how we all want the same things in life but somehow in this modern society where women have taken two steps further to match with those of men we have reached a stage of disconnect. The relationships I see working well in today’s times are ones where men are not trying to lead but walk with women, they are no longer only the ones talking but are also good listeners and have genuine interest in their female partners lives. Then there are these alpha males who aren’t ready for modern women yet so women with these men still choses to stay two steps behind and listen to them talking about ‘their jobs’ ‘ their dreams’ ‘ their knowledge of the world from various travels’ to make them feel they are leading us. Turn the tables and you have lost the interest of these men.
Anyway I think you guys all know what works for you and what doesn’t and especially if it’s just about picking up and sex then what’s there to think about… Right?but I just thought you could all use a bit of female perspective. Hope this doesn’t offend anybody coz I am just a girl what do I know?
I love that you’re listening to us, you care. BUT what modern women don’t understand is that two people can’t drive the same vehicle at the same time. What we need to do is concentrate on helping the drivers understand the road and the passengers better. We need to concentrate on making better men out of our boys. And dare I say, we need to work on making women / ladies out of our girls. By fighting among ourselves, all we’re doing is ignoring the kids. I’ve seen my fill of bad drivers. They all look like they don’t care. That’s not good. People can get hurt in the wake of a self-servicing and selfish / reckless and thoughtless driver.
then start teaching yours sons to stay home and nurture children since they have nothing to do
I earn over $95,000 a year how much do you earn? You don’t even have the right to smear women with your misogynist post. I’m reporting this website to the Toronto police.
And what, exactly, do you expect the police will do?
Why are riding a city bus if you’re ear 95k a year? Toronto is a suburb city, you need car.
Because she doesn’t make 95k a year
Obama’s thought police can’t stop us yet
Has to be a troll, wow
again please leave you dirty asshole whore…
no one cares about your posts.
lol…fuck the Toronto police. And that 95K a year is low compared to me…so keep on working. Maybe you’ll get my respect one day when you start acting like a lady, again.
You’re weak, shut the fuck up.
horrible attitude some of you feminists have. so u report to the police and what ? want to harass some guy just for posting their opinion ? incredible. just wait until sex bots replace people like you. and make no mistake , that will happen
Now go and get my sandwich !
I will rape you to death you filthy cunt.
and if you have sex with one you will be getting hours of texts from them per day afterwards is the worst thing
Give a woman a phone and a dildo and she acts like she’s set for life. Men on the other hand, rightfully see phones and toys as a means to an end and that’s it. The best of us, the family man values family and friends, intimate partnerships, loyalty and love of another person one helluva lot more than a tool. And it’s really ugly when women so commonly and so easily generalize us all as sex-fiends.
This may sound like a crazy interpretation, but I think the chorus of “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is about this:
With the lights out, it’s less dangerous
Here we are now, entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now, entertain us
I’d take Zeppelin, Soundgarden, Nirvana, or Alice N Chains over any of this top 40 mind control we have today. Even if all the bands I mentioned were probably a bunch if druggie hippie dudes in their personal life’s I guarantee you they had higher its than the brave new world Generation Y and millenials around today.
The 80s, with heavy metal like Metallica, offered a gutteral response of protest to the downward spiral. It was angry – pointing a finger outward.
The 90s brought us grunge, where the anger was still there, but now with the sentiment of resignation. Kurt knocking himself off was a metaphor of the American male.
Fast forward to the new millenium, and all the men have been effectively removed. We only have the voices of Beiber and Bruno Mars – more boys than men. They are the only acceptable voices for Team Feminism.
The decline of music in the US represents the decline of the American male.
There is no long term satisfaction for the life of an ‘alpha’ , as this post testifies.To keep women satisfied requires a level of male authority way beyond your childish clowning. Are you going to carry on with this charade?
“To keep women satisfied requires a level of male authority way beyond your childish clowning.”
Hamsterlation: Hurry up, man up and marry a slut.
I come home in the morning light
My mother says when you gonna live your life right
Oh mother dear we’re not the fortunate ones
And girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have fun
The phone rings in the middle of the night
My father yells what you gonna do with your life
Oh daddy dear you know you’re still number one
But girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have
That’s all they really want
Some fun
When the working day is done
Girls – they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have fun
Some boys take a beautiful girl
And hide her away from the rest of the world
I want to be the one to walk in the sun
Oh girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have
That’s all they really want
Some fun
When the working day is done
Girls – they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have fun,
They want to have fun,
They want to have fun…
I prefer Lene Lovich’s “New Toy” to Cyndi Lauper’s “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” …
“I want a new toy … to keep my head expanding …”
I suspect that Lene Lovich would have seriously kicked Cyndi Lauper’s ass in a no-holds-barred cat fight …
Hell, making men look like clowns is even in commercials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJ8mCV39M8
Christ man, is it really that bad???
It doesn’t seem so to me. Women still want relationships. I just don’t see that it’s so extreme…plenty of good women want to try a relationship with plenty f men. If they’re unsatisfied, a bit messed up in the head or don’t know what they want, they’ll move on. But a lot don’t….
The ones that stay around will usually be insufferable to deal with. If a woman feels that she hasn’t “settled” for her best possible match, she’ll either:
1. Cheat and move on and possibly come back later with her tail between her legs
2. Get him to break it off (i.e. get his permission to slut around and find something better)
3. Be insufferable and combative while blaming him for her behavior
4. File for divorce and ruin him emotionally and financially while raising fatherless kids who grow up with no male influence and think people like Justin Bieber and Carson Kressley are ideal masculine role models.
Granted, some women are not like this. Some modern women are genuinely self-actualized, secure and accountable to themselves and others, but these women are in the very, VERY small minority and are likely already committed to quality men.
The women you are likely seeing that are happy in their relationships are usually fully convinced in their own minds that they’ve found their best match. I wish them the best. But the reality is, many women feel they’re entitled to better men than they currently have. Their expectations are grossly misaligned with reality.
I think what Roosh is trying to argue here to some extent is that more and more women are following this model of errant behavior and the trend is very disturbing.
Amen!
sounds like self-improvement is a fool’s gambit in the modern world; time to stock up on heroin and ecstasy. getting busted will only increase attraction.
Lol, this is mostly true. See: http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/millennial-sexual-revolution-relationships-marriage
However, when you have money and power, it’s a completely different story. Adaptation and the struggle to survive is a secondary drive in the evolution of animals, behind the desire to expand one’s power. All life seeks primarily to expand itself. No matter what type of situation individuals find themselves in, their will to power comes through in some way or another. Most people are losers with nothing to offer.
Sad, but true.
This post is refreshing in its honesty. Way too many guys in the manosphere engage in what can only be described as therapeutic bravado. Understandable, given the miserable state of modern gender relations, but delusional.
What you write here is correct. Women need male tax dollars of course, but they do not need any one of us individually (that is certainly their perception anyway). Nor do they particularly want us. It’s a hopelessly lopsided market, that is somehow becoming increasingly lopsided with each passing year.
On a related note, I would content that the manosphere grossly overstates the number of carousel riders, and grossly understates the number of carousel watchers. That is, women who are so delusional and narcissistic about their own worth that they believe, subconsciously or not, that they are too good for everyone. So they wait… And they wait.
Both carousel riders and watchers squander their assets in different ways. The rider feeds every man in her entourage until there isn’t a drop left in the milk jug. The watcher just lets the milk rot on the counter. From a man’s perspective, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other. It makes no difference (though I would content that the watchers are a worse problem than the riders – at least sluts serve a purpose).
Either way, they are an endless source of frustration. But in our lashing out, we reflexively label them all sluts anyway, as we know subconsciously that we can get more mileage out of accusing them of being excessively slutty than excessively (snobbishly) chaste.
{Citizen Kane clap}
ll of you whining idiots, complaining that women don’t need you guys anymore (thanks goodness)… do you guys need women? Individually speaking, of course? Do you guys feel any neediness for women and that is the reason you guys feel butthurt when women can lead their own lives without having to obey a male “master”? Cause really, all that nonsense is just ridiculous.
I have to laugh at your sexism and also the sexism of the author both are anti egalitarian pricks believing separate ideologies one of which was directly created by a mixture of bourgeoisie capitalists and the hence mentioned so called “jews” that nazis complain about (when in fact what they are really complaining about is an esoteric sect that is familial not ethnic in nature and which also recruits non familal people into it albeit mostly in lower orders and positions, the racist thing really does my nut even if its specific to the Ashkenazi group who not actually Semitic therefore are not jewish unless that is their religion because 99.9% of Ashkenazis are not in said familial group and of those that are they are very diluted Ashkenazi because it is a familal not ethnic thing) im talking about certain types of feminism here) and the other was a reaction to said problems of those ideologies and whilst not directly created by the same bourgeoisie or esoteric alliance (more on my fairly unique position on this later) it was entirely of their planning as yet another result of dialectical syntheis (problem (of their creation) reaction solution, of course the solutions further their aims of breaking down society in whatever form it is taking in reponse to their external pressuers)
The problem with some feminist is they blame all men for the actions of a violent minority, some are just wanting to forecfully convert hetero or bisexual women to lesbianism through covert means of man hating instead of the feminism I admire which aims to break down gender binaries not reinforce them as an excuse to bash men with for the sterotype of women being romantic and men being dogs fertilizing things is in fact a media created image not a reality and is then used by that same media to prepose a solution to that particular problem
The problem with some maybe a lot of mens right activist is that is all about shaming women and exaggerating a real problem and also believing so called progress is via brining back old gender binaries that where created artifically by the same people that are now creating the new ones, the same people that are stopping mens geneder binary being trully broke down so people can be free.
The problem with some socialists is that they fail to see the religious side of the problem from the estoerics instead somehow believing the media indoctrination its all the fault of established religions like ISLAM (which inspite of its oppression in women in some places and horrific sucide bombers (whose ideolgy was in fact influenced by esotercis who diverted them at the end of the 19th centuary or so from their core beliefs) or Hinduism/Christianity etc. The ones that see the esoteric symbols then say it all means nothing or it just looks cool etc are the biggest tools along with the ones with the ones who claim because some tv show said the “illuminati” ( correct name is order prefctibilis which sounds a lot less silly) where a secular organisation that that must be true or that because the founder on his death bed said the order was finished when said order was more secretive than the masons is actually a trust worthy guy whose word can be took as gospel.
Said idiots also often have never read a book by Albert Pike called “morals and dogma” or the great book called “Pawns in the game” (of which I believe most but not all content to be true) and dont understand the rules of numerology then attempt to make jokes mocking it, if they actually understood how it worked and made a logical rational spoof that obeyed the laws of numerology and the religious like importance certain groups give to certain numbers as outlined by Mr Pike and that it comes from the ancient Egyptian religions they might get it and elicit a smile because they do not shows them to be rather unintelligent or at least lazy!
At least half the folk banging on about numbers are not doing so because they find numbers fascinating like idiot savants but that because they understand to the elite certain patterns are important, the sad thing is said patterns are always found between noteworthy news items yet attempting to predict when these events will come is impossible because their are a hell of a lot of days and years between momental events like say world war 1 and world war 10 that can have 333 days between them for example or one terrorist boming and another that can have 7 days or 666 days between them ( repetiton of 33 such as 333 or 3333 and of 666 along with 7 and 11s are the sacred numbers to these sects and a lot of it is to do with square numbers its them not I that put the importance on these numbers because to them it is like some form of ritual to make events occur after a certain number of days. I also believe part of it is that they control the press so if an event doesnt quite align with their wanted figures they can say it does so something happening at 1 minute before the next day they will just report as being the next day any way, its not all down to them having meticulous ability to get their own way also the 666 is more a mock Christianity than sacred number type thing to them compared to those other numbers)
The problem with some other smarter socialists is that they recognise that their is a conspiracy but put it all down to the rothchilds some even are brave en