I have a bank of rotating stock questions I ask women that let me know how I should proceed with my game. One of the questions I used to ask was “Do you need a man?” Out of the dozens of times I asked it, not a single girl answered yes. Even in Eastern Europe, a woman needs a man as much as a cat needs milk. They would prefer the best man or the best milk, but they can surely live without.
There is definitely not a single woman alive in the Western world who needs a man. While in the past a woman had to put forth effort to obtain a husband who would help her survive, today she is protected by a welfare state that ensures she will never go hungry or spend one night on the street. Even a child she has out of wedlock from a drunken night out will not have to suffer from her mistake, and that’s in spite of the fact that many nations already provide her with free contraception to compensate for her lack of judgement in selecting worthy mates.
Anything required for a woman’s survival or pleasure can be easily achieved without her having to put forth commitment, sacrifice, or labor. She can shave her head, gain 50 pounds, and disfigure herself with tattoos yet still have many suitors to—at the minimum—have sex on demand. Her food and shelter will be provided by a state which has embarked on an extraordinary effort to compete with men for her devotion and loyalty.
I started asking a different question to women: “Do you want a man?” I began receiving “I don’t know” answers (the more they hesitated to respond, the more I considered their true answer to be a yes). Only in a few instances did a woman outright say yes, and these usually happened in Ukraine. It’s no surprise that I eased into mini-relationships with these yes girls without the standard flaking or game-playing you would normally receive from girls who see men as milk instead of water. The girls who said yes weren’t exactly hurting for food or shelter, and they didn’t try to reach into my pockets for resources, but through their attitude and demeanor it was clear that they did want a man in their life who could provide it with a measure of happiness that could not be gained from their environment or government.
You’re a lucky man if you can find this type of girl in the West. From a young age, girls are brainwashed to believe that they don’t need men and that the key to their happiness is self-empowerment by sleeping around and becoming a corporate wage slave. It’s hard to dispute the notion that a woman who believes she doesn’t need a man won’t make as good of a relationship partner as one who does. She will treat you as a distraction to her more important job, girls’ nights out, and social networking validation happy time. Men have become an utterly replaceable and expendable commodity in a girl’s life. Her interest in a man is not unlike her interest in a new television show or Apple product, and your only hope is to have sex with her as many times as possible until her attraction diminishes and she moves on to the next guy in line.
Women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. They seek hedonistic pleasure. This is why provider men (beta males) are so hopelessly failing today to secure the commitment of beautiful women in their prime, and this is why even lesser alpha males fail to enter relationships with women beyond a few bangs. Once the entertainment or novelty you provide her declines—and it inevitably will—she moves on to something or someone else. In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer, adding a cliffhanger to the end of each episode that keeps a woman interested when being a good man no longer does.
When I look at myself in the mirror, I don’t see a man who has improved himself over the years to be the best that his genes allow—I see a glittery skirt that a girl encounters in the mall. Is the skirt too expensive or is it on sale? Is there only one left of her size or is the rack full of them? Does she already have something similar or is it totally novel? Does her friends think it’s cute or just alright? After trying it on, does it flatter her body or make her look fat? Either she makes the impulsive decision to buy the skirt or not, because odds are she won’t come back for it. There are so many stores with so many skirts that she will soon forget it, forever. We are like glittery pieces of fashion to women—items that she truly doesn’t need. Not only has she already collected so many of them, but she can easily obtain more within walking distance from where she lives. She can even browse online from home while in her pajamas through a nearly unlimited selection.
We are not men in the traditional sense—we are clowns. With our tight game we have to be entertainers who create drama and excitement in a girl’s life, just long enough so that she spreads her legs and makes sexy noises, and even though she did commit such an intimate act with us, she will soon lose interest or simply get bored, and then move on to the next shiny cock that catches her eye. The other side of this coin is that we no longer need women. We don’t need them to maintain our home or cook good meals for us. We don’t need them in an age where having children is no longer important or valued. Whatever natural connection that once existed between the sexes has now been severed. Neither sex needs each other so we dedicate ourselves to corporations, entertainment, and base pleasures instead, and this is a great tragedy that most people believe is a sign of progress, a cause for celebration.
For the next girl I meet, I’m not going to ask her if she needs a man, because I know she doesn’t. Instead I will simply ask her if she wants a man, and if the answer leans yes, I will perform like the good clown I am so that she is entertained enough to have sex with me. Either she or I will eventually get bored and the relationship will end. Then I will simply repeat my performance on a someone new, because I’m a skilled clown, and that’s exactly what women today want.
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It all part of the master plan folks
Master plan=zog/nwo
Pretty much all the progressivism in the West is a well articulated plan to depopulate the Western world by destroying traditional social structures. Feminism has been complete poison for the West, America’s incarcaration rate has shot up, persons living with single parents have gone up, social cohesion is nothing like it was decades ago. Even the minorities who the progressives claim to help live in hellish conditions, exposed to violence, lack of employment and educational opportunities, and are at the mercy of a racist justice system as a result of the progressive policies that have destroyed families.
The reality is that the so-called progressives, many of its leaders are Jewish and support a violent and racist dogma under the pretense of social justice. You wonder why many left wing Jewish groups support social degeneracy and open borders in the West while giving Israel a blank check to do what it wishes?
Glad Trump will finally put an end to this bullshit.
Sadly, Trump says he is “Israel’s best friend” lol
He was lying, he only said it so as to not get heat from the Jew’s, he secretly hates the Jew’s as do many people.
Some believe Israel was the real masterminds of 9/11. I wouldn’t doubt it. It’s been said how people from almost every country perished in WTC that day, every country except, ISRAEL. There were Jewish companies in the towers and they were conveniently off that day. In fact, Jewish people were not seen in lower Manhattan at all. Coincidence?
What gets me is anyone in their right mind can clearly see 9/11 was a carefully planned controlled demolition but 99% pretend they didn’t see anything. Even Building 7 and still barely a whisper from anyone except a blank – oh yeah.. F we really must be living in 1984.
There could be a 9-11 every day and nobody would care because it doesn’t effect THEM.
Life just continues on as usual. Just like an animal. As long as it’s not in their backyard. It’s not their friends or family and even MORE important than friends and family – 9-11 every day doesn’t effect their fridges being full, nights out, pizza deliveries, BBQ parties, flat screen TV’s, internet connections, phones, cars, homes, vacations, kids in school.
Sure. Most people would feel bad. Everyone would scream and shout something must be done. Then they look around them and everything is fine and life goes on.
I am telling you. The days of civil wars being waged because of tax increases on green tea are long gone. And they are not coming back without a catastrophically severe economic situation.
Something very serious has to happen AND these people have to lose the power to create money and manipulate the value of money via international exchange rates.
I thought Bitcoin might have been the answer at removing the parasites. But it seems I was wrong.
Trump is Jewish, all his children are married to Jews – many pretend to be Christian – which is actually jewish garbage to turn ppl into sheep. As you you said – Actions speak louder
Dude, you dropped it ! It is the Zionist agenda ( the Powerful private banks ) that took OVER countries with a duplicitous goodwell agenda that permeates from the highest levels of government to everyday pawns & Trump was selected by the SAME elites, like others before him . DON’T believe the hype ! Look who his daughter is married to .
Christians gladly gave Jews their money because the Bible says earning interest is sinful. Dude…get the facts. Christians picked Jews do their dirty work.
He’s not putting an end to anything. Even if he wanted to the swamp would delay and draw it out until the next election – until socialist or neocon gets elected – just like they are doing now.
Real change would take a military kue. Force. Violence. That’s the only way to drain the swamp. The rest is just talk and “babble”. City council speeches and town hall meetings. Bla bla bla. See. You have “rights”. We “listen” to you. Bla bla bla. It’s all theatrics.
Meanwhile the ship sails into the reef. The crew is alarmed, concerned, shouting. The crew protests. There are “special meetings” and “let your voice be heard days” and lots of paperwork back and forth between the crew and it’s captain.
In the meantime the ship continues full speed into the reef .The captain is a bitch and he does what the navigators tell him to do. If not – his career as a captain will be over, his house foreclosed, his family in the street, and no gold or retirement package for him.
That is the real problem and until force changes it – nothing will ever change.
What a load of shit.
Double up the tin Foil.
A women fall for it like the a rodent to a well crafted trap.
I learned of their control of the majority of wealth, the media and academia despite them making up less than 2% of the population (even lower in Canada). They are behind the ridiculous political correctness movement and hate crime legislation that was drafted so as to silence anyone who might figure out their agenda and attempt to shed light on it. Men like German Rudolf, David Irving and many more, previously recognized as great historians, were arrested, charged with hate crimes and incarcerated simply for having made academic inquiry into a specific period of history. Other so called “revisionists” or “holocaust deniers” have been intimidated, harassed, assaulted and smeared simply for trying to get at the truth. I found out that the Jews are responsible for our wide open immigration policies that have created the nightmare we call “multiculturalism,” “diversity,” inclusiveness” and “pluralism.” It is mostly they who push for race mixing and miscegenation, knowing full well that it would eventually lead to those of white European descent being minorities in their own countries and the eventual extermination of white European DNA.
Who asked race nuts to butt in here?
Who owns the banks media companies top lobbing firms? That’s like saying look at all those tall black guys in the nba- how racist. It’s not racism it’s stating the facts.
You are not just stating the facts. You are trying to claim that they are in those positions as the result of some conspiracy, which is racist, not to mention stupid. That’s the difference.
Blacks are in the NBA because they are athletic and and aspect of their culture emphasizes basketball achievement. Jews are prominent in business, law, and academia because their culture emphasizes education and hard work. In neither case is it is a conspiracy. If you were good at basketball you could be in the NBA, and if you were smart enough you could run a bank or do whatever. But you are not, and rather than just accepting that you are blaming your lack of achievement on others.
Simplistic moron
Jews are not a real people. They are a sect. They dont have the same % of common DNA like other people have, You mother just have to be jew and thats enough for them to claim you jewish as well, and fuck the other half, It’s the most watered down people who ever existed. Any other mixed relationship result in mixed children but now jews: The children are always 100% jewish. Fuckem.
Jews are prominent in business because they have a greedy sniveling nature, they are not hard working at all. Asians are much harder working in my experience. I live in a city with many Asians, they work extremely hard yet hit a glass ceiling, the ones who get rich usually own their own businesses. Most Jews are rich because they are highly intelligent opportunists and are master scam artists, a common term used against them is “Shyster”. Might sound racist but most of them I have known are exactly this way.
Of course they are. It’s not racist. They admit all this themselves, all of their rabbis speak openly about it!
It’s not all Jews.
These attitudes stem from the Talmud which is the product of Pharisees – and not God. The Torah is God’s word. The Talmud is not.
Jews do appear to me to be somewhat shysterish in nature, i agree. Conniving is another word.
Yes – Asians are intelligent and hard working. That is the problem. They will work for nothing. Asians have some kind of mental block with losing face. That is why they built suicide nets outside of these factories in China. They put up a front until the point they step off the roof. That’s why they hit a glass ceiling . They are passive and “wait to be noticed”. They make the boss rich and “wait for a raise”. Most don’t have any balls. I’ve had extensive experience with this in business
Long hours. Low Pay. Race to the bottom. They don’t have any balls.
This only benefits those at the top. That’s why they sing the praises of immigration.
The ironic side is that it all eventually catches up as all business are forced to lower their prices and forced to hire cheap labor to compete. All these government regulations just make it worse. With employee lawsuits etc there is LESS liability to hire immigrants and a huge upside with labor costs.
This is all caused by central planning.
Utter dipshit. Jews have always been a very aggressive, insidious race. Get an education in reality.
The invite themselves in
What you don’t realize is that you guys sound awfully similar to the race nuts, just replace (jews, black people, etc) with women. The irony is lost on you all. You deserve each other and this is hilariously awesome
You’re still an empty cunt.
Good one.
Shut up whore…it is men that created the conditions needed for feminism to exist and it will be men who take it away….eventually even the beta cucks will begin to resent you and then…well then things will get back to nature baby…and your kind will be the first to learn the new lessons.
Shut up the fuck up you loser lol what a bunch of pussies here whining and complaining about women, just like a group of little teen girls complaining over some douchebags lol The men are the ones who are learning what their place is 🙂 deal with it. Some of you fag can’t stand the fact that women don’t need you anymore, besides for sex ofc lol and that’s too easy to get since most of you men are horny pigs fools who are able to act like dogs just to get the pussy.
I am not a horny pigs fool or a dog for pussy.
You’re trapped by your own words without even realizing it.
If women in general don’t need men – that proves they never needed us before. Men were only good for resources. Would this not prove most women are whores?
I would also like to add – you’re only leverage over a man is when he loves you. Outside of this your leverage is welfare, the court system, student loans, credit cards, and corporate wage slavery with an egalitarian aspect.
All of these systems are from artificial central planning and fiat money. Artificial. None are found in nature. None are found in true libertarian free market or wild west capitalism. The West exploits labor from other nations with a system too complex for you to understand. America is the only place where an economically useless person can mortgage a small house for $700,000, get a luxery car loan, student loans, credit cards, welfare – and someone else has to pay. Either here or overseas – nothing is free. Nothing.
Without the fiat money system and the temporary Western Zionist alliance forcing up this house of cards at the point of a gun- none of this would exist. You would not have the option not to need a man.
It’s simply against the laws of nature for an unemployed women, to live in $700,000 house and drive a Range Rover, while she gorges herself on Starbucks and Tinder swipes – paying for everything with borrowed money.
If you knew anything about history you’d know what goes around comes around and this cannot last.
Natures laws will eventually return.
No,….Jews are what they say they are in large part. Not all but in general.
Not only jews but also their fellow parasitic minions Indians are into this game.
I believe just like in all species of animals, even among humans we have parasites, and jews are parasitic race, same with indians, their whole purpose of existence is to destroy their host nations and feed on them
Otto weininger wrote his seminal work “Sex and character” where he describes a Jew to be a feminine spirit, A Jew never had masculinity, he is feminine and this is why most jews are proponents of feminism and other degenerate feminine philosophies
Jews have instinctive hatred towards Masculine races and Masculine Values like Honor, Brotherhood,Camaraderie….
America and most western world has become Judaized..Today its feminine, There is no honor,Camaraderie or any values, all we have is jewish materialism, Jewish feminism and Judaised Holocaustianity ..Which you call today as christianity…
All cultural and social institutions that have created and fostered the European civilization are dead,The jewish parasite has infiltrated into every aspect of European life, today they no longer hide behind the screen, Jews are quite open and boast often how they have Corrupted European culture and much they are proud of it, infact we have become more gutless and we cherish and celebrate our demise
Ugh, I hate how the manosphere for some reason brings in the neo-nazi and jew hating racist trash like you.
If you did some research youd see its actually all true. Covering your ears and screaming “lalala” doesnt make it not so. Quit being so naive, pulling the race card is just as bad if not worse than a feminist pulling the mysoginist card.
It isn’t “Jews” per se, but cultural decadence as a byproduct of decades of peace and prosperity for ordinary Westerners. I can see how Americans might think it “is the Jews”. The Jewish aspect is relevant to Americans because many Jews live there & sadly many are in with the Left.
But what of the Western nations with hardly any Jews – yet where Leftism is pervasive? Not many Jews in Europe.
Here in Australia here there are a minority of cultural Leftists (like in every Western nation) – and there are pretty much NO JEWS here. Here, it’s immature Anglo-Saxon tossers (self-righteous poseurs) that make up almost all of the Left, and six out of ten would be women.
Our wealthy societies create the soft conditions where detached and hateful Leftism can be indulged.
The central dynamic is that after decades of peace and prosperity for ordinary Western citizens at home in their nations – previously fringe matters come to the fore. All the important problems were solved a long time ago.
So, we have a build-up of sheltered, emotionally immature, naive, indulgent, Leftwing cultural faggotry.
But as I’ve written above, the money is gone (massive government debts), and the charade cannot continue much longer.
What you should be saying is that the Zionists own the banks not to mention they financed the Third Reich and in Hitler to rise to power. The point of World War 2 was to get a Zionist state of Israel not a Jewish state which they would do by the extermination of the Palestine people as they are seen as subhuman. “There is no such thing as a Palestinian people… It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn’t exist.” This is the form of Zionist not Judaism please be informed
Jews do not send their kids to public schools, bozo. Jews are careful how they raise them, yet they relish making shows like Jerry Springer to blast at the unwashed Whites.
Why not ? jews are behind 90% of all feminist and PC bullshit. There’s NO reason to love them.
A community that believes a certain type of humans are superior to other types of humans, attracting another community which believes their race is superior to all other races?? Sounds impossible, bro.
You would not have written that if it were Muslims being blamed. Run along back to your bible / torah.
Haha yea, I really hate Jew’s now for what they have done to western woman, and to the west in general, I have pretty much been forced to leave my country because I won’t tolerate the bullshit anymore. Yea Hitler was right now we know why he wanted to exterminate the Jew’s.
“neoNazi’ thats all you got? Tibalism is REAL…unlike feminism…which is a construct created by men to appease women…in other words feminism exists at the pleasure of men and this will one day cease and the conditions that exist that make feminism safe will evaporate…just as they are in Europe whilst the population is displaced by non-feminist men and women from the Muslim areas of the world…no need to agree since reality will slap the shit out of you for all men.
This post is insanity. Is the Israeli military feminine? Is Bugsy Siegel feminine? Or Steve Wynn or Sheldon Adelson (casino moguls and billionaires)? Oh, and by the way, Rooshv is Indian. Rest assured, there’s a special place in hell for people like yourself.
So the Jews who control everything are behind the Islamification of the West?
Indian “minion” guy here.
I think you Jew trash forgot that India was the only country that provided a place to stay to the Jews when they were kicked out from almost all parts of the planet.
And the reason why we “Minions” still prefer traditional marriages is because of our culture to RESPECT WOMEN. Yes you read it right you cock-suckers. But now all you get are 13-14 year old girls fucking around like dogs expecting “Indian Men should respect women” BS.
And yes, the Jewish trash Media left no stone unturned to portray India as a “land of Rapists” because of our same cultural values.
Are you for real, you are known for raping and killing your women over nothing. You marry girls so young because, its a form of control. But its ok for men or so called men, to fuck around. While your women are treated like live stock. Fuck off. Misogynist prick. And the rest of you fucken women hating, misogynistic mother fuckers. Crawl back under your rocks.
still prefer traditional marriages is because of our culture to RESPECT WOMEN
loooooooooool.yeah right.then Sudia Arabia most be the kings of women respect
any islamic country following a sharia law is an exception to the discussion. there married women and singles alike suffer with their pussies stuffed with mullah beards.
otherwise, it is true indian guys stay married. and such dedication is a (much forgotten) form of respect.
Though it is wrong to call India as a land of rapists, we need to clarify here that the rapists are now hugely females rather than males. Males have almost become clowns as this article said. If you see the transformation of the society and the heavy inclination of all the laws towards women, it surely turns out as a land where the females are much more pampered than anyone else. This makes them misuse the laws very easily. Take a look at the fake cases against men and their families.
So many Useless And Worthless women nowadays more than we ever had unfortunately. No wonder why many of us Good men are still Single today.
… If you were this Good, honey, we’d all be fighting for you and the least thing you’d be is Single. Not your fault: Useless, Worthless, confused and overconfident men are legion nowadays my friend.
We women derive so much hilarity from reading these pathetic articles (Neomasculinity? ar ar ar! Hugo boss & gold bling? On your skinny defeated back?? Hahahaha!)
Go on boys. Our pleasure. For real.
The real trouble is most of you women have no respect for us men anymore which makes most of you very pathetic altogether especially when many women will curse at us good men for just saying hello or good morning to the one that we’re attracted to which doesn’t make any sense at all. Oh boy, women are so sweet today right? NOT.
You’re not worthy of respect because you lack respect for women. Suck it, bitch. Women don’t owe you SHIT. Why the fuck we would be sweet to any of you scum bags? You objectify us and degrade and humiliate us. You sexualize us then treat us like we’re not even human, just bags of flesh for you to stick your dicks into.
This author is fucking retarded, as I don’t sleep with males anymore at all, because none of you are worth the air you breath. You’re not deserving of my body, or any woman’s body.
I see you are the quintessential woman the author is referring to. You read that article and that is what you picked up about men ?? . Case in point proved . I honestly wouldn’t do you with a stick if I had the option but sadly many men think someone like you is the Godess they have to get to love them , all I can say to is ” good luck fellas ” .
And You’re a complete very pathetic low life loser anyway since women like You will just grow old all alone with your cats since no man would want you. In other words You Lost.
Said the very mentally sick woman herself.
Then again you sound like a real total loser yourself and i can really see that you have a very severe mental problem as well which you should seek some kind of professional help since there just might be help for you after all. But i seriously doubt that.
Said the Moron herself.
Your not worthy of anything, I will walk directly over you not around you, I don’t care if I send you flying like the piece of shit you are, you don’t deserve shit, you deserve a slap in the face, I never fucking walk around western white woman they disgust me so much sometimes I want to strangle them or throw acid on their faces to remove that arrogant face, just like the Muslims are doing to you pathetic western white pieces of female trash now that your kind imported them, yup when I see a white western woman getting raped I will not lift a finger to help her, I will order a beer the screams will go ignored, I will actually smile because your disgusting type voted for this shit, you made bed now die in it you scum.
So are you now a lesbian then?
Hey Nicole, there are some amazing women out there just like there are some amazing men.
I am very sure that she has her very own StrapOn and girlfriend already.
You are a big part of the problem. A lot of women just like you tend to overvalue themselves to the point of rejecting every man alive. It seems like our culture is giving too much self-confidence/arrogance/self-worth to women. Hey, Elon Musk and Zuckerberg are probably less full of themselves than you! You might have some value I’m not saying the opposite, but please girls, stop acting like your beyonce. Being 160 pounds while being 5’4 is not healthy, not ”curvy” nor ”cushionable” or whatever expression you want to use to justify your physical shape! And what’s funny is that this type of gorls often want mem who have been tp the gym for years or who are hurting themselves with steroids.
Said the moron herself.
this is real talk…if you think about it you will realise that India historically has always done the right things with good intentions but in return India only gets contempt and vilification from the west despite all the historical wrong doings that we have had to endure like genocide, slavery and pillaging of all our wealth. Many of these foolish Indians still run after the west like moths to a flame only to get burnt badly by the bastards who live there. In fact whats happening with Islamic extremism is wake up call to all these so called western “religions” hate cults like christianity and judaism to wake up n smell the stench that these religions create and to adopt real spiritual religions like the ones from the east hinduism and buddhism. Many of these westerners are adopting yoga n spirituality and all the good things from India and still hate India and cannot swallow the fact that our Indian ancestors are the ones that created yoga and meditation and not any “white savior” for them to claim credit. Typical from these pigs coz they are always quick to criticize everything Indian but never willing to give credit where its really due.
Holocaust denial is SO blue pill.
And conspiracy theories are beta. If you blame all of your problems on some implausible paranoid fantasy, rather than striving to just improve yourself and your outcomes, it doesn’t get anymore pathetic than that.
31 guest votes….
You JIDF cunts aren’t exactly subtle.
Well I think if the whole world is going to shit because of some conspiracy or whatever, then the time you’ve taken to improve yourself and make yourself strong is what’s going to pull you through it. But dwelling on all this other distracting shit is just going to leave you high and dry when adversity strikes.
Seriously, you try to gather around a group of guys to talk about women and all of a sudden some Nazi walks in and changes the subject to Jews. It’s so annoying. Stay on topic.
Man-children* these aren’t men. I wouldn’t give them the title of guy, either.
So why would a real stupid woman like you write a topic like this in the first place? Then again you need help very bad.
I learned about their roles in the radical homosexual movement, the radical feminist movement, the pornography industry as well as their over-representation in the abortion industry.
http://www.rense.com/general80/whj.htm
Very powerful post, which shows impressive self-awareness on the part of Roosh. I believe this is a must read by any young man today.
I was kind of thinking along the same lines, as I noticed that every year, girls are becoming flakier and flakier.
At the end of the day, game is just the skill of being a clown in the hope that some girl will be amused enough to spread her legs.. or not, if something shiny distracts her.
I can’t ethically approve prostitution but if all it is now is to be her Adam Sandler entertainer for a few hours to hope to get laid- why wage our time and listen to her retarded banter, child like outbursts, and asinine logic and just not fly to Europe, or Latin America (Amrican pros are ugly and $$$$$)????
It’s gross that women are such bitches now men even do a cost benefits on talking silly talk to them vs. going to an call girl. We live in a dystopian World now.
Questions of legality and “ethics” aside, which is more dignified for a man: paying for sex with his cash or with his time by playing the role of court jester?
It seems the only difference is that the latter provides a nice dopamine hit of fulfilment at having won the game of garnering female approval.
So the question becomes: is it good for a man to seek female approval?
I am not so sure it is.
Think of it this way: do you care if a hobo thinks you are well dressed? Or if your neighbor’s dog appreciates your scent?
“What, are you crazy!?”
In the end, all of these problems boil down to the progressive diminution of the value of western men. It is hard to believe that an average guy from 1914 would even countenance playing the jester; modern tinder hos and streetwalkers would be equivalent, and their opinions equivalently immaterial, to him.
Time warp him to 2014, hand him an iphone and he’d probably be confused as to why dating apps don’t have payment systems built in.
they do, it’s called myfreewebcams and the likes
Either way is scummy. How about treating women like human beings with thoughts, emotions, feelings, and try a little equality. Might actually get you somewhere instead of looked at with disgust.
I’ve had so many pathetic little bitch boys use me for my money and resources so kindly shut the fuck up. Your gender is far more using than women are.
Your a piece of work arnt you, how about treating men like men, instead of like the aloof clown’s you try and make them be, I hope you die a lonely death with your cat’s eating your corps.
Great comment. I couldn’t have said it better.
Old post and late comer to the topic, but not sure why one wouldn’t approve ethically of the sex trade. We each own ourselves, we own our bodies, and we exchange our bodies for income. This is labor, be it washing dishes, at a desk, or in a boxing rink getting hit. We own ourselves, we own our right to any labor that doesn’t hurt another person.
There is no reason to question the ethics, the ethics are clear unless you think yow own another person.
because sexuality is a physically and emotionally intimate thing. if you equate it with money, then either you value your physical/emotional (p/e) intimacy as bland as physical labor or objects, or you value money so high that your p/e intimacy fades in comparison. both cases reflect some acute distortion of values, which even though should still be respected and accepted as the rights of someone, but it has to be always clear that is a fringe interest and should never be the norm
It’s neither emotional nor intimate to all people at all times. And the norm does not always mean the best. It’s normal in some cultures to oppress women and deny them education. Normal is not a standard I care about. Chattel slavery was once normal and backed by law. So even the law doesn’t really matter. What matters is ethics. And ethically a person owns themselves, which means if they wish to trade sex for money it is perfectly within their individual rights – no matter what a neighbor or gun toting police thugs might say.
“t’s neither emotional nor intimate to all people at all times.” That was mentioned in my post. Your post is redundant.
Holy shit… a grown man with a brain. Fred, you rock!
Thank you Nicole, its a sign of the lack of a value system that the idea that we each own our own bodies will often receive a great deal of derision.
I think the term “ethics” in this context might be subject to misunderstanding.
For starters, the sex trade is absolutely not something that should be subject to government meddling. Sovereign individuals own their own bodies, and if they are willing to engage in sex acts for money, that is 100% their right.
We libertarians often joke about “capitalist acts between consenting adults”, deliberately equating other forms of voluntary trade with the sex trade in particular, just to make our point.
That said, I can’t help but feel that trading sex for money is not the psychologically healthiest thing a person can do. I can’t help but feel that there is some devaluing of oneself going on underneath it all, at the emotional level.
Again, let me repeat. None of this is anyone else’s business. Third parties must butt out. There should be no such thing as laws against the sex trade. There should be no such thing as vice cops, enforcing their own notions of morality on individuals.
I’m merely talking about what people should do in order to live the most fulfilling lives.
“That said, I can’t help but feel that trading sex for money is not the psychologically healthiest thing a person can do. I can’t help but feel that there is some devaluing of oneself going on underneath it all, at the emotional level.”
Agreed, not to confuse the ethics of “mind your business”, with what is healthy, good for the family and a quality society.
Yes! That is what I mean.
Authoritarians of all stripes refuse to acknowledge the distinction between actions that are “bad” but do not violate other’s rights, and therefore must be tolerated, and actions that are bad because they violate other’s rights, and therefore can never be tolerated.
The reaction of liberals and conservatives alike is to say “There oughta be a law!”
Neither seem to realize that institutionaiizing state violence is the worst “bad” of all. It trumps all other “bads” in its long term repercussions.
Demand the institutionalization of state violence, and one will eventually lose everything of value one has, including one’s life.
Anyone who doubts this need only look at how domestic “law enforcement officials” can now murder mere mundanes in cold blood, on video, yet walk with only a slap on the wrist.
Exactly, and the violence of government then exponentially creates more violence in the areas were they attempt to regulate morality. I use the term morality very loosely to just describe actions that families, individuals, and society express generally negative outlooks (because they tend to create negative outcomes). The overuse of many drugs have negative effect on individuals and family and I am detractor of recreational drug use. However, I believe ethically that recreational drug use must not be made illegal. First, NAP and negative rights. But on a utility level we all know the violent culture that the drug war has created. Same has happened in sex work. Same was occurring around abortion when it was illegal – and you probably know I oppose abortion.
What I don’t want is individual problems exploded into systemic cultural violence. Sex work is just one of those areas that is a prime example of government moralism creating a systimatically violent culture – when the transaction itself is largely peaceful and safe. I can make arguments about how sex work is not healthy for the individuals and how the individuals often engaged are mostly emerging from family violence. But I don’t usually make those arguments as they are taken out of context to support the state violence. It’s tricky and surprising complicated selling “leave other people alone”, there seems to be a human predisposition for meddling. Then give meddling to the state and it becomes violent coercion.
Yup. I just finished watching “Breaking Bad” again on video. Walter White, a mild-mannered chemical engineer screwed out of his due by unethical business partners, found himself descending ever more inextricably into violence.
Why? It was not the fact that he was “cooking” meth. It was the War On Some Drugs that was responsible for the violence. Without the War On Some Drugs, drug addiction is merely a public health issue.
Consider the Portugal experience. The government decriminalized drugs and cut addiction in half.
Walter White’s brother in law, Hank Schrader, was nominally the “good guy”. But in fact he represented the very evil he and his wife Marie, Walter’s sister in law, so self-righteously denounced.
In the fact based film “American Gangster”, Newark PD Detective Richie Roberts says it all.
“They don’t want this to stop. It employs too many people. Cops, lawyers, judges, probation officers, prison guards… The day dope stops coming into this country, a hundred thousand people lose their jobs.”
The Portugal experiment is typical when I’ve read about other countries doing similar; legalization or decriminalization reduce violence and usage – every time. So if the statists goal is to reduce violence and usage, then the path is clear. On a utility basis, liberty is also the clear path. The sheer volume of propaganda to keep that simple truth from getting a foothold has been epic. I still prefer the base ethical argument of rights. But hell, ethics and utility seem to neither be making a dent. The drug war is going strong and the prison-state is insanely large. The US is the greatest prison state of all time and few seem to care.
Breaking Bad was a great deal of fun and you pegged it, one of the reasons I enjoyed it was the anti-government message – a message few saw I suppose. Without Government, there would have been no violent drug trade for Walter.
“I still prefer the base ethical argument of rights. ”
Absolutely. For me utilitarian arguments are important, but secondary. For me, the moral arguments are always what I hold dear. I have long held that whoever holds the moral high ground, will eventually prevail — in the long run.
Admittedly, the long run may be very very long. Like centuries after we who are living now have all turned to dust. But a quick overview of world history will confirm that the evolutionary trend is irresistible.
One day, the Conventional Wisdom will be voluntaryism/anarcho-capitalism/free market anarchism. It will be that all human interactions must be uncoerced and by mutual consent.
Children will ask their fathers “Daddy, why did people in ancient times think they needed government ordering them around? Were they stupid or something?”
It will be interesting to see how the ‘born-again’ Republicans handle their full control of the Afghanistan poppy/opium trade.
Biz as usual!
You know what’s gross? Males are such whiny cunts now and can’t grow the fuck up. Yea, we’re bitches, because you scum bags turned us into them.
Jesus your bitterness smells from a mile away. If you’re a bitch it’s YOU fault, nobody else. How immature and petty do you have to be to blame 3,800,000,000 men for your attitude problem. Get over yourself, if you can’t give a guy respect he isn’t going to respect you, it’s no wonder you’re so bitter. With an attitude like that I’m sure it’s been years since you physical contact with a guy. On to your second point, last I checked men aren’t refusing women the rights to see their own child, men aren’t using children as weapons in divorces. Men aren’t the ones making false rape accusactions when they are embarrassed by their one night stand the night before. Men aren’t claiming they should be treated as adults but not held accountable for their actions when they CHOOSE to consume alcohol. You better shut up and enjoy the high ground while you have it sweetie.
Great comment you just made since that woman is a complete loser altogether anyway.
Nicole you are totally right! I can’t stand males, well, mostly whites males because I have male friends and relationships but these men aren’t white, in fact, they are real men who doesn’t spend their time complaining like a little bitch and love independent women and women who are strong and they will NEVER ever be intimidated by a woman. But a lot of men nowadays are such losers that you just can’t respect them and they aren’t manly at all, it’s pathetic to see a man whining about how women don’t want him or don’t need men anymore lol you are a loser, deal with it or do something about it but stop blaming women for your shitty life.
And for me, I laugh at those losers, I’m an attractive woman, with my own money and I do whatever I want, I can have sex when I want too and I know that weak men hate women like me, only a weak man need a woman to depends on him to feel useful or like a man.
Nicole have you calmed down and seen the light yet?
I’m dating a grown man. I don’t need to worry about the losers on this page. =D
Take that as a no then. I hope the future divorce isn’t too rough on you =D
Roflmfao I don’t need to worry about a divorce, unlike you. ^_^
Lol another fucking idiot who will never get it.
Women aren’t even bothering to sleep with you morons anymore because you’re not worth out time.
Good we don’t want you, atleast youwill be a genetic dead end, because it takes men to make babies but only a moron would even consider having any with you, good bye thank god your type will slowly die off.
Maybe. But you’re still a cunt. And men of means can go to other countries and get real women.
Said the pathetic low life loser woman herself.
Said the Gay woman herself.
Said the Retarded woman herself.
Women like you really are very worthless and clueless altogether to begin with.
Brutally honest as always. This one really puts things into perspective – well done.
Nah, just retarded.
Wow Roosh, haven’t seen such grim post in a while. Was really one of those classic red-pill observations about naked truth.
Yep, indeed. Sad but so very true. I went out the other night and I could see it happening right before my eyes. Women just looking for the best new “shiney” thing in their life to distract them. Pretty sad.
It’s worth noting that young women are getting unhappier as this unfolds.
The evidence is literally in front of us – as the amount of tattoo ink races to catch up with the ever expanding female bulk…
Agree. Pretty soon they’ll only need to stand still while teenagers sneak up to spray graffiti on these “structures” (no tat required).
No we’re not. We’re happy as fuck to be free of you morons.
No tattoos here. HAHA
Happy as fuck huh…hahaha ok…whatever. It’s the men who are happy because they no longer have to serve a putrid piece of bile like you.
Lol another fucking idiot.
Said the real loser herself.
Roosh is totally correct about the girls needing to want a man in the first place. A stated desire is a complete prerequisite for a relationship in today’s world. In mathematics, they say “Randomness corrodes meaning in formal contexts” (essentially, the principle of entropy) and the same is true for relationships: People who say “If it happens, it will just happen!”….invariably die childless and alone. People have to want it.
But I am not as pessimistic about LTRs and such with a girl who does want it as Roosh is. If she openly states she wants a man, then most likely she has more strength and responsibility than the average Westerner.
yeah, women want a long term relationship because their sexual value dies and the most Roosh is willing to offer is a “mini-relationship”, so he’s not really willing to make any deal they want either….
Because he isn’t a grown man and women sense this. Duh.
In case you haven’t figured it out, no one cares for your commentary.
Ok i agree with this too. Its the right question to ask. Sometimes i do sometimes i dont. Not necessiarily about anything but whats going on in my life at that time. If i say no, im either already involved, or i dont have the time to be good company.
I have an issue with guys who make assumptions and cant take no for an answer. Oh and Ive seen ladies who have pulled the same stunts.
People have the right to turn you down, on both sides.
If it makes your stomach churn, your body has already said “NO”.
You really took the opportunity to tell us all about yourself. I’m not trying to put you down, but your unguarded comment illustrates the intrasexual differences in mentality. Just from reading the posts here, you can see that men will use abstract theories to tease out a logical stance on an issue, whereas women are devoid of this function, preferring a more subjective approach. And with modern-day ego-centrism, they’re completely discouraged from exploring such higher mental facilities. It’s not a great basis upon which to confer ‘equality to all’. But do stick around – there is much to be learned from all this great male wisdom.
Let’s just put it how it is- males will play games to try to understand what’s going on in a woman’s head and women will just outright tell it how it is and try to ask.
Sweetie, it’s the males with the issues with the ego, not females.
No male wisdom here, nor greatness.
Why would we ever need you again? LOL if this is the way males think, you’re no longer men.
Rather be alone and childless than with some fucking asswipe who doesn’t appreciate me and treat me well, you know, like a fucking human.
We appreciate women. Calm down. Not sure where you are getting all this.
It would figure that a pathetic loser woman like you started this topic to begin with.
Wait! Not true! Men are not “just clowns” to women. They also have the potential to be indentured surrogate dads to their fatherless kids, most of whom end up deeply troubled since they’re from broken single-mother homes. If you sign up for that, you can expect to lose your money, time, patience, reputation, and end up with a miserable, ungrateful stepkid and resentful woman (who gets your house). What a great deal! Glad we overthrew that oppressive, old-fashioned family for this cool new corporate-run model. This is liberation at its best.
You left out her hitting the wall and nagging you to death when you are not off slaving away. Then you are expected to kiss ass to her stupid friends and family during your prime off time while listening to her same old banter when you are alone with her.
Dum Dum Toronto women are far better than morons like yourself. I wouldn’t even let you kiss my sweet little poophole because you might infect it with your desperation you can’t even get laid by the way you write on ur post
Toronto Women?!?!?! Wow that is such bullshit! You’re even giving the impression that you think you’re a higher, more important entity than everyone here. BTW if actually set foot Countries like Russia, Brazil, China, or even Mexico you would be dead by now. I know this because I’ve been to those Countries and I read articles about Some woman from Toronto getting her head chopped off or getting shot to death and even her throat slit because they pissed ofthe locals from one of those countries. Now regarding your city, if you compare the women of Toronto Ontario to other Canadian Cities like Montreal QC and Vancouver BC, even in other countries like Columbia, Argentina, South Korea, Bulgaria, And Ukraine you are ugly as hell and you have an ego so big, and an arrogance reserve so large, that whenever you get into an argument with a guy you’ll continue the need to debate with them until you can get to a point of where your fat globuled veins and arteries feel safe and secure. My point is what makes you so special? BTW I’m Canadian too but i’ve spent most of my life living in and visiting over 35 countries
“I know this because I’ve been to those Countries and I read articles
about Some woman from Toronto getting her head chopped off or getting
shot to death and even her throat slit because they pissed ofthe locals
from one of those countries.”
For real? Not Brazil. Brazil would never put up with this crime.
Brazilians are not the irrational monster you want to make out of them.
Typical shaming language. This “cant get laid ” talk is played out bitch , get the fuck outta here.
dumb whore talking back…
no one cares about your dirty ass hole.
Toronto women are terrrible compared to women from NYC. They are 6s (at best) trying to act like 8s or 9s. Not impressed at all by these women. I’ll go to Vancouver or Montreal any time of the year versus ever going to Toronto.
No really. They’re loudmouthed trash who couldn’t turn on a light bulb. You’ll have to excuse me, I need to go vomit after thinking about kissing your peanut and corn-filled shithole.
Most of you women are just so rotten and nasty today, and you’re such losers too.
You surely are talking about men not women.
Most women today are very Stupid.
Nope. And of course women are the clowns. What kind of creepy motherfucker paints their face and lips and hair and tries to smile and laugh their way through life? Women. And clowns.
You’re absolutely right.
Then again if many of you women had a brain, you would be very dangerous.
Spoken like a worthless cunt. No one in their right mind would want to associate with such a disease ridden petri dish of walking disease such as yourself. Not to mention the “winning” personality you show… women… God’s first and only mistake.
Hmmmm … are you talking about men? Disease ridden … need to stick their cock in anything that moves and actually anything that doesn’t. Shaming? I know more male whores than female … Men are clowns with the stupid shaming tactcs. Good golly go beat off or find a prostitute … isn’t that what makes a man happy … squirting some cum? A man is a real man the more cum he squirts. It is amazing to me how distasteful it is to the male when he sees his behaviors mirrored by the female population. Ironic … men created this environment of wanting free and easy sex now can’t stand what it has come to. And, men think they are the rational gender. Good golly. I learned a very good lesson from the male gender … dated my now ex … we were exclusive for 5 years … accidental pregnancy …. he just wanted to screw, no commitment there, we murdered the child through abortion because the silly clown man only wanted to screw, didn’t want to deal with a “traditional” family …. clowns, the clown had too many seeds he needed to sow. Go screw until your dicks fall off, spread your diseased thinking and maybe the world will become a better place. I Learned a valuable lesson about clown men 🙂 You can’t trust them, their cock and the diseases that go with it is their world and their GOD.
Projecting much bitch. Do this world and abort yourself from it. Last I checked it was women initiating divorces in far greater numbers then men so that just proves that women ain’t shit and loyal only to the BBD. SO whateve your saying is simply more female hamsterbation. Eat a dick and d-e.
Maybe the bbd has more to offer than you
Now what very pathetic low life loser woman would start a topic like this to begin with? This women really needs to get a life.
Aww good for you
What you doing out of kitchen ? Go make me a sandwich..
Why aren’t you out… Providing… Bringing home bread for breasd… Giving me money for makeup and new clothes. Buying the house paying the bills playing for insurance making sure we have enough for me to volunteer.
What makes you think I don’t have WiFi connection in the kitchen? Still stuck in the stone age mentality, much?
Ok.. but first go get my sandwich !
Haha you’re a doll
Men can never be more than abusive, perverted sex addicts as long as mothers keep raising us with that crap in mind. All women do today is bitch and moan instead of actually teaching their sons to love themselves and be proud of themselves. Instead of great mothers who want the best for us, we get bitter, man-hating bitches like yourself. We grow up feeling ashamed of having penises when we didn’t do anything to our mothers… other than exist. Who do you think you are to tell us what we deserve and what we need as men?? You’re not a man. You can’t love your man unless you’re willing to actually hear him when he needs something. So, the more women like you spew your vile crap at men, the more it makes men feel like you’re all incapable of love.
I appreciate comments like yours but often I wonder if you’re just speaking to a brick wall. The level of discourse rarely transcends that of a 6 year old in these matters, which is why things like “The Battle of Berkeley” do not surprise me one bit.
Yea, I live in Cambodia now, well insulated from all this utter lunacy, but I see the western white whales that come here to “Save the children” and they are like brainwashed zombies, anyway after extensive research it appears for the past 30 years this weird elite cult has been using military grade mind control/brainwashing on everyone, they put chemicals in the tap water which people in western countries drink from, in Asia they only drink bottled water, anyway so for 30 years they have been doing this and also lying every single day to everyone using the media and with the new thing they call “fake news” everyones slowly going insain because now we don’t know what’s real and whats not, it fucking bizarre to watch and the real losers will be the woman, which actually I enjoy because the way these woman are treating men I hope they all hang themselves with only their 10 cat’s watching them die.
I cant help but wonder if the real issue is a lack of respect and fair dealing on both sides?
I mean, i have been just as angry at the prejudiced treatment ive gotten at the hamds of some men. But ive seen women be every bit the bully the guys are.
I dont agree with the general racist garbage, but these guys have a point. Somewhere in their life there was a bully.And it may very well have been a woman.
Guys, I know Im asking a lot of you when i say, read “Understanding the borderline Mother”.
It was the most painful book i ever read, but it taught me so much about the origins and most important, the patterns of abuse.
If you have ever dealt with “The waif, the hermit, the queen, and the witch”, all in the same woman, this book is for you.
And boys arent the only ones who suffer from her, the girls do, too.
This book will make you understand that every effort you ever made to escape the tyranny was the right thing to do.
Thanks for the book recommendation
I would imagine that with things like abuse it’s often pernicious, difficult to notice, and obscured by (or even contained in) the minutia, which allows it to proliferate so much. For the same reason I find gardening so fascinating, often your plants are dead because you failed to notice the extremely tiny bugs that had been crawling all over it for weeks. And you can’t apply the same principle to all plants, watering all your plants in the same manner can kill some while bringing life to others.
I will fucking rape you and lick your asshole night and day. I will fucking put a balloon in ur poophole to store your fart and burst it on your face when it’s filled. I will paint your poophole with sweet red jelly. Any ideas why girls dont shit icecream?
god i am compelled to comment. u stupid crazy bitch.u would be rendered useless by sexbots. just wait for a few years
Please go get a sex bot… please. We can’t wait to be “rendered useless” by sex bots because then losers like you won’t make harassing sexual comments to us ladies anymore.
I am never going to dream of ever having sex with u. Fuckng ever. U will be rendered irrelevant. unfortunately this is a fact. And considering how ugly you are you may even have difficulty finding a man to have sex with even
Maybe if you actually got up off your fat ass and took care of this shit you said you were going to, women wouldn’t have a reason to nag. OMG….!
Nah I don’t expect you to kiss anyone’s ass. You can stay home, alone, in a one bedroom apartment and leave women the fuck alone since you can’t be a decent grown man.
God’s forbid you have to listen to a woman. I wonder how you assholes would feel if women treated you this way.
Dayum, the post is not even about you Nicole. This post was about human men discussing about human women. You should go and poke your nose where male pigs complain about female pigs. That is where you belong. Now please leave us, humans alone and go make a sandwich.
Why would I tread where your mother goes? That’s your area, not mine.
This woman unfortunately isn’t human at all since that idiot really started this topic in the first place to begin with.
I actually like Nicole. I don’t think you’re all that bad.
Thanks Mark. <3
I'm actually pretty fuckin' awesome. I would fight for equality for anyone, gender and race regardless. I just will never encourage trashy males.
Don’t forget being forced to work any job to pay the monthly child support bill unless you want to share a cell with ray ray at the local city jail.
I feel that if the child is living with the dad, the mother should pay child support. Unfortunately, many don’t.
Do shut up. Plenty of males cheat and deserve to have everything taken from them. Maybe if ya’ll weren’t so pathetically daft and treated women with respect, dignity, and as humans, we wouldn’t get resentful. Ever think of that one, genius?
I will rape you to death and no one will save you because no one wants you, and even your white knights won’t bother to save you because they know you are such a pile of shit, you have no protection, they all left you, gone…pooof…hahaha now who’s the fucking loser.
I dare you to try, little boy. You’ll end up dead so quick and legally as you just threatened me.
Owwww and what are you going to do…QUICK CALL THE POLICE SOMEONE OFFENDED ME! owwwww sad to be you…it really is..what a piece of shit you are.
You are such a fat pathetic pile of shit no real man would even touch you with a 10 foot pole, and to even think of raping such a disgusting beast of a monster like you?…keep dreaming…keep reading your 50 shades of gay.
I’m sure you are exactly the insult you’re trying to throw at me. Funny how I have courage enough to show my real face and real name and here you are, keyboard warrior, trying to act like a big man. How funny!
Is that your picture? How sad.
I always find it hilarious when a fucking waste of space and joke of life of a person who is too ugly to put up their own picture, when they try and utterly fail (like everything else in their lives) at insulting me.
Bitch, please. You’re a joke and so is every other man-child like you. You’re a disgrace to grown gentlemen.
OMG!!! Nicole! You’re a shapeshifter. That is pretty impressive actually. Here’s a pic of me posting this comment in my steam bath.
You really need a hobby.
You got that right.
You are so disgusting you should just get a rope and hang yourself for the good of all mankind, even rapists don’t want you.
Follow your own advice, sad little troll. I’m doing work for the good of mankind. Sadly this includes low lives like you, but hey, it’s what I enjoy doing.
What exactly do you do that contributes positively to society?
Even full blown muslim gangbangers dont want to rape you thats how disgusting you are.
I find funny how must of you sexist pigs who complain all the time about nowadays women also complain about muslims or arabs… is that because you are scared of them just like you are scared of strong women?? yeah, it’s exactly because of that. You are weak and have an inferiority complex, it’s too easy to see, nobody respect a weak man, maybe it’s cruel but that’s the truth. How much as I hate religious people and religions I can see that most muslims men are more manly and brave that western men, maybe that’s way so many of you are so scared of them. I live in Paris and I had see it too many times! guys who complain about arabs, blacks.. etc but when they see a group of them in the streets or even a couple of them they run lol it’s so pathetic to see in what kind of pussies western men have become.
We don’t want strong, independent woman get it in your thick skulls, men want family orientated caring, gentle, loving home orientated woman, not competitive cunts like you, its just a BIG turn off men do NOT like being bitched at! Get it yet?…and your shaming languages do not work anymore men simply do not give a shit anymore what woman think, we don’t care, go jump off a bridge for all we care, we don’t need you either!.. And woman lost the respect of men when they bashed on masculinity constantly and demonizing and alienating men for the past 40 years cunt!
And unfortunately the Rope would break anyway with her luck.
I have great respect for most of the great manosphere writers, those who write and practice game like monks from an eastern monastery. I have no problem with the PUA lifestyle that it enables.
Even though I have never practiced game for the purpose of simply getting easy lays, I have always felt exactly as Roosh describes here, that becoming a PUA or developing game simply for the purpose of serial manogamy is little more than making yourself the designer outfit on sale. I still feel game is something that every man should learn, and I still believe that a man’s value irrespective of women can be defined by his ability to attract women. However, I think game has a higher purpose, and that purpose is actually forcing women to either accept a constructive role in society, or accept their fate as serial manogamists with little to no reproductive future.
This, to me, would require using game for one purpose only, successful reproduction from a committed woman.
Regarding children, the only people having them in large numbers are poor and uneducated people (note I did not write ‘families’).
Educated and professional couples are delaying breeding until they no longer can or simply have dogs instead of kids.
The only hope is to travel and breed in another country with greener pastures.
Name a few countries for us to look into-
Don’t leave us with a cliff hanger man.
The fact that Russia is distancing itself from the West is great news. Outside of Moscow, Russian women are still traditional. Plus, even in Moscow they are still better than Western women. There are other traditional countries but they worship Western culture and will soon be contaminated.
The West is nothing but the Zionist central bankers juggernaut to bully and threaten anyone who doesn’t let
Old Jew businessmen in Manhattan and Tel Aviv railroad them into submission.
I would imagine some
Of the other non feminist/Zionist gender breakdown brainwashing countries are in the Balkans or Baltics-we all know Western Europe and Scandinavia are intellectual and cultural post modern feminists cess pools.
yes they are soo traditional they can still their wives as their quoraan allow,but what woman wont wan that
The problem is they don’t speak English – only Russian
ya and these girls he speaks of are abortioning many . Making themselves sicker and sicker.
ouch…. The truth hurts when we back it into a corner, doesn’t it?
It’s not just that women believe they do not need us. Every job I have ever held viewed me the same way. Yes, I do a good job, but not so much that they cannot replace me with a new kid beating down the door to take my place. My current gig goes as far as to tell me this to my face.
The cruel irony, is that they may think they don’t need me, but the reality is different. Every real job I have ever left, has been reduced to limping along without my presence. One place even gave up the ghost entirely.
No, I may not be critical their survival, but I make the difference between thriving and just living.
Phil, it is true that relationships and the workplace are becoming ever more indistinguishable. Everything is upside-down now. Corporations are run the same way women run/ruin relationships.
Hmm…that means if you can game one, then you can game the other! 🙂
Yep, agree Phil. What’s really sad is when you see a domino effect happen after you decide to leave (or they let you go). Many others follow (resign, quit, etc…) because you were the glue holding it all together.
The company eventually folds…and yes, it was all because of you. Stupid companies, stupid owners….and women should take notice because there is a relating ‘trend’ or ‘ theme’ regarding relationships.
I had a sort of funny experience. Very rarely am I in the position that I NEED a particular employer but I did. Red flags all over the place: They needed the guy’s knowledge to keep the business running but didn’t want to give him a decent severance so they instead wanted me to shadow him as a temp replacement for vacation so they could lay him off.
I puke at myself for going through with it. Of course, in the end they decided to not hire me either and they laid off both of us and suffered the resulting instability.
This made me realize how appearance is EVERYTHING in business. In a market based competitive system, since so many companies have egotistical managers with layabout workers that kiss their butts then the competition doesn’t knock them out. It’s kind of how soviet socialism plodded along for decades.
Strangely enough, I learned one lesson that I keep to this day: Managers respect my value, daily, and know they can fire me or lay me off and i’ll survive (I have savings) and that they can survive too (albeit in a reduced manner) and not to **** with me. I have a deal: I don’t mess with them and they don’t mess with me.
Idiot….a relationship where you transcend the humdrum can’t be compared to a “job”. This is the problem ldiot. You are comparing Apples to Orangutans. Idiot.
Well put. Men are just socially acceptable dildos.
And magic money machines.
and killers of bugs and icky spiders….eeeww
They are?
Yes my dear. Men are taken for granted frequently and it is just assumed they’ll provide for women, even by the same women who have no qualms about mistreating responsible, generous men.
Unfortunately that is often very true. How sad.
Maybe the issue isn’t the woman… if you feel so mistreated… maybe you should stop dating or marrying or hanging around terrible people.
The issue clearly is the woman, or should I say women, as that is the issue at hand. I am speaking in general terms of course.
Your comment shows as expected a complete lack of concern for the issues men suffer and disregards any of the faults of said women. We are talking about society as a whole, not the individual.
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You basically just said, “I know you are but what am I.”
This is a classic excuse for women to get out of any responsibility. It sounds so juvenile, it makes it really hard to take you all seriously as adults. I mean, maybe Jack Nicholson was right about you all. How does he write women so well? “I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.” That’s how you could describe almost every teenager out there.
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Hahaha
good job revealing the moronic state of the contradictors of this page’s thesis
Then again with all that Lipstick that they put on makes them real Clowns, especially with all that makeup.
Why do you care if someone wears makeup…
Most women today are very Pathetic.
Sounds like it takes a pathetic parasite to know one
Low Life Loser women like YOU are everywhere now.
Awwww how touchy… Does your mommy still wipe you?
Burn in hell Bitch.
Awwww don’t worry… I’ll pretend i know you in hell when i there in the vip
Said the Pig.
Oink
queen of angels ftw
Dildos that can’t even vibrate, glow in the dark or have the hardness last for that long lol.
amen!
well we have to consider the environment– trying to find a romantic girl in a purely brutal feminist regime like America is now is like trying to find pure blood donors in some country where they have 50% AIDS infection rate… it’s just the wrong place for be looking for that particular item…
Well said! You nailed a big point behind all of it:
Trying to find a *romantic* girl.
Well today, they go from sweet and happy children to….what we have today. They never were so aggresssive in the past. They are being raised to be this way, to be competitive to men themselves, aggressive and defensive, in many ways far away from their own natural instinct of preference – of nurturing a mate and a child in a safe, productive, happy environment.
Instead in this fast paced hostile society they are encouraged to be stronger and bolder than the men around them. It’s no wonder our birthrate’s are below replacement levels and naturally born men in NA seek a loving mate in other countries, in the quest for finding someone who is raised to value what he is naturally.
Warmth and romantic ideals here in NA aren’t spoken about or encouraged growing up for most ladies. Having younger females showing how tough and strong they are in sports on the other hand…well just dandy..
Women always try to dominate and set the terms of the relationship. they also overplan any holiday bday or vday months in advance . and then they complain complain and complain and complain and complain and complain etc etc etc
1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Depression
5. Acceptance (counterculture or domestication?)
Roosh is standing, standing, standing…at the fork in the road. Tune in next time. Same bat channel.
That basically sums up how a mangina comes to be.
In essence, the only way you can keep a girl is if you adopt the mentality of a soap opera writer,
Hell of a line. Well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_mFK_e4KWs
http://therationalmale.com/2012/04/13/have-a-look/
“Women have become casting agents.”
Now there is two Losers in the picture above.
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I certainly agree.
The skirt analogy is perfect.
I have been a long-time read, and this is by FAR the best post you have ever written.
Such a realization. I have lost so many girls for seeking connection or love, while sex has become easier than ever to get.
And how much fun is sex when there’s nothing more behind it? It’s like a spending an hour on the treadmill and that’s it. If a man can’t trust that she’ll be there, that she cares, that she actually enjoys being with him, it’s like fcking a fire hydrant.
Luke you’re forgetting…. You’re a grown man speaking to little man-children. Gods I love grown men like Luke.
Thanks for being awesome, Luke!
This observation is sad, but from my ongoing personal experience it is also true. Women really don’t need men. This is evidenced by the fact that well over half of the women in America are overweight in some sense. If they truly cared about finding a good man, they would not allow themselves to become so fat. This sucks pretty bad for us, boys. Its really beginning to look like slim-pickins’ out there in the modern Western dating world if you’re looking for attractive, young women who are worthy of dating. There are still some tight,young, slim girls out there, but the competition for them is fierce. These women command a premium high above their actual SMV. A high supply of thirsty, sexually desperate men (represents sexual demand), combined with a very limited supply of attractive women creates a pretty tough market for the average man to compete in. This is really nothing new to economics.
Given the imbalance in the SMV, it is understandable that average women view men as easily available stimulus. There will always be a supply. That is, of course until they pass The Wall.
Actually, they don’t change after the wall, but instead continue to run the same drama scripts, usually with increasing desperation, utilizing increasingly low-rate men. These men will sex and/or marry them, keeping The Fantasy alive. Spin, hamster cage, spin.
This, as you might guess, is pretty tough on kids, especially little boys trying to grow into men. Yes, females profit economically and materially from the matriarchy, and so do their parents . . . but others pay a v high cost. And of course it’s unsustainable.
Fair enough. Women get crazier and in their early 50s the Hamster spins for his life. Perhaps it only ends once women pass menopause, and the strogen feeding the Hamster stops.
Well boss from the limited sample i’ve observed, men-o-pause can slow the Hamsterlator, but not still it. Yes the sexual component usually alters, but the underlying psychospiritual conditions (acquisition and security of Top Social Marker Male, emptiness of God etc.) do not change. The Script — if not The Song — remains the same.
Agree that late forties, early fifties, the modern western female’s hamstercompass careens wildly. Remember that almost NONE of these females are under the guidance of an actual man. They’re all Independents, including the “married” ones. So we see these Empowered Oldies all over our cultures, shredding masculinity and fatherhood at every opportunity, demanding more anti-male laws, more mancages, etc.
At that point, regardless of past behaviors, most women believe they SHOULD have snagged a TSMM, and if they havent, and most havent, then guess whose fault it is, and who’s gonna pay? That’s what their government is for.
Cheers.
“So we see these Empowered Oldies all over our cultures, shredding
masculinity and fatherhood at every opportunity, demanding more
anti-male laws, more mancages, etc.”
You ain’t seen nothing yet.
When the current crop of carouseling pre-spinsters finally hits the wall and discovers politics, watch out.
There’s never been a generation of women more alienated and socially disconnected from men.
With their superior numbers, encitement from pre-existing man hostile lobbies, and having little to lose by angering the few men in their already barren personal lives, they will use the ballot box to hatefuck us all.
“There’s never been a generation of women more alienated and socially disconnected from men.”
Yeah this is unprecedented, nothing really even close thru history. Most females operate a lot on shared/group consciousness, and the politicization of this herd is diabolically effective, appealing to a v broad spectrum of biases, desires, fears, and demands, which emerge as an unreformable, self-serving polity.
I enjoy seeing, this site and elsewhere, resistance to this clever form of totalitarianism. Cheers
You just summed up gender dynamics in the USSA for the past 50 years and the clever zog/nwo bankers who made all this mayhem occur so the rockefellers and rothschilds
Could have two corporate cog wage slaves to tax incomes, put their goy slaves kids into govt brainwashing/”public education”, and promote all their cultural
Chicanery to warp further generations.
No need to bring sad youtube-university conspiracy bullshit to the table.
An actual contributing dynamic behind the long-term growth of the state in both spending and “reach” could well be the advent of female voting in Western nations. Female voting only started around 100 year ago. A few years earlier, only men who owned property could vote in many Western countries.
In the US, one of the first social impacts of the female vote was a shrill, largely FEMALE LED crusade for the PROHIBITION OF ALCOHOL…
No, they won’t. The money is gone – the big Western nations are in terminal central-government debt situations.
The US, Italy, France, Spain, Japan, Britain… France hasn’t run a budget surplus since the early 1970s.
This applies to all these nations, but to use the US as an example, at time of writing (October 2014), the US federal debt is $17 trillion and growing. When O got in I think it was about $5 trillion.
It’s over. As in, the “USA” and democracy itself are winding down (democracy will return in the future). The modern industrialised civilisation in North America will still be there, but it will have a new name and different politics.
Fascism & “strong men” are coming. No-one is going to listen to a feminist in these times – indeed, feminists will be seen as part of the indulgent old-order that contributed to the social collapse. A few fems will be strung up on lamp posts. Many feminists will actually become normal people again as economic collapse forces people to step down from collective economic-bubble-era delusions.
Who knows what will happen for sure, but the strife will last decades and will be awful.
“There’s never been a generation of women more alienated and socially disconnected from men.”
That’s unprecedented but so true. There’s no historical reference to help us successfully deal with this situation. What can we do? As long as women have the manginas in the government by the balls, we’re all like pawns.
What’s scary is that modern American is starting to remind me of Soviet Russia after the Revolution. No one person has value over anyone else. It’s a nice sentiment. BUT at the end of the day, when everyone in the country realizes that they’re nothing but disposable pawns, they become miserable. And that’s why the Soviet Union collapsed.
One of your better posts- good analysis on he menopause set
Many dont even consider.
20s they are entitled cock carousel riders
30s wall and scam a beta
40s yolo and take betas assets
50s hampered brain bombs into insanity and many are left torn in aftermath
There are hamster cages that spin, now? I think I’ll be getting one of those!
It may sound like an the fantasy of an omega nerd, but it bares repeating because unfortunately, it’s the truth: the only (and I mean ONLY) permanent way out of this impasse is via technological replacement of the female. The age of sexbots is the age of male salvation.
That’s here. It’s called porn on a screen. No need to build some bullshit robot.
I’m a man, but I also recognise that without female pickiness – humans would not have evolved into our modern state. If every single knuckle-dragging male ever got to pass his genes on, humans wouldn’t have changed.
At least we’re not dying in an awful protracted ice-age like our ancestors faced (if you’re Caucasian). That period shaped us by the way, and put us on top.
Porn is still made “using” real women, unless you only watch gay porn (yum!) or digital porn, hentai and shit like that.
At least admit you guys only care about sex. You guys keep talking about family unit, fathers, blah blah blah… but you guys only care about sex, while shaming women for giving what you guys want. Some kind of bipolarity there.
And what does that mean, will you guys try to kill “flesh” females, then? Just admit your psychopathic, “gendercide” tendencies for once, American idiots. How will robots replace women? Wouldn’t women use the robots to replace males as well? I mean, they will be even better than dildos and vibrators, right?
You guys are so weak that you guys want robots, that have no minds of their own, to be your sex partners! LMAO! Of course, only a robot could be programmed to show (fake) “desire” and horniness for your flabbily hairy American bodies, but come on… the problem is you if your lack of attractiveness is that big.
What a nice, sexist generalization of modern men. You must be a feminist troll.
hahahahaah — This all is pathetic. Half of the men on this site would gouge each other men’s eyes out if you were in the same room. You all act like friends and brothers … yet the real truth is, you’d stab each other in the back to get a little sex. hahahaha. Do you khow what the real problem is and has been? Hey, go stick you cock in the couch and hump it if you haven’t a clue. Male whores … you are all so cheap and predictable and disease ridden and pass along all those diseases. You attempt to shame females who behave the same all the while ignoring your two faced baloney. hahahahah And, the guys on here whining about fat women, slim pickings … a fat head (the one on top of your shoulders) is worse than a fat waist line … it is as ugly as it can get. Go hump a few things, walk about, the woman can abort it, maybe she will have it and take your butt to court so you can pay for it, then you can do some more whining, you can then start the cycle over with another female, you know cause you are not ready to settle down and commit … to many wild oats to sow (pussies to screw) or you just haven’t figured out what you want and are willing to poke whatever comes along while you are trying to find the one – sex, whine, abort, complain, reset, sex, whine, abort, complain, reset. — whine, whine, whine so pathetic.
Said the low life loser.
No, you don’t get it. And why should you? It’s not like you are the empathetic feeling-perceiver that women were in the past.
But if you were, you might realize that you will be replaced because, no longer offering empathy, compromise-ready family qualities or excellent baking skills, your only value IS sex. If that same sensation can be replicated, your entire existence will be unwanted. Then maybe you can learn to run after men instead of making fun of men who don’t succeed in line for you because they don’t have the oops-short-circuited-the woman’s-brain-again skills to bed you.
Fuck you
I’m actually quite empathic (feeling-perceiver? lol). For real, I am. It’s just that I don’t respect idiots.
I could care less about what other men think of me, what they believe I should be offering or not, whatever. Most men only care about getting the D or taking in the ass and I’m fine with that. I only care about having sex with them as well (unless it’s American men, then no – these fat/flabby hairy uncivilized shits are worth nothing, I won’t even be using them as dildos as they suck overall).
“baking skills” lmao.
Do you offer all of the traditional “masculine” traits to actually attract a slave of a woman, I mean, a “feminine” woman? Men stopped being traditionally masculine way before women stopped acting like submissive slaves for them.
But really, are you talking about women,there? Or are you implying I’m “girly”? Garbage regardless.
Well, maybe you could understand just one thing: women’s value isn’t about what they can (or should, in your sick mind) do to men. Women in America and most of the developed world have most of the jobs, most of the degrees, are making most of the money in their age group, have influence, start their own business and are the majority of the ones helping other people by voluntary work. They are just living their lives, they are the ones who get to decide what is their value, as each individual in this world gets to choose for him/herself. Women weren’t “created” for men, and the reverse is also true.
The existence of idiots like you pisses me off, but hey, what can I do? I’ll keep living my life, just go about yours. Everyone is free to be as idiotic as they please. I won’t be crying because you are not the ideal man for me who isn’t letting me fuck you in the ass as you *should* be doing, I won’t be an ass who believes you should be acting the way I believe you should just so you could please me sexually or be marriage material. You don’t live for me and I’m fine with that.
What you said was very very accurate. Don’t get why some men don’t understand that. For a woman to play her feminine role the men have to be able to afford it (I would say “money is the problem”). Mitt Romney’s wife play that role pretty well because he take home enough money to allow her to do that and just stay home with the kids and take care of them like a traditional wife. But the thing is most men these days only complain and can’t provide enough, so now both husband and wife have to work to make ends meet. That alone killed tradition. I believe woman want to be home with the kids, cook, clean, etc. and play the traditional wife role, it’s just that the average men can’t no longer provide that environment. Since both husband and wife now have to work, I think the husband should be the one to cook, clean, etc. because male are the stronger sex. But noooo, men still come home and does little and still want woman who now have to work to cook and clean which is unfair, so they file for divorce. 🙂
Exactly. I never understood why men felt like they should be the deciders and regulators of feminine behavior. Most masculine men go bat shit crazy when a woman tries to tell them what to do.
Stop playing victim (this goes for both men and women, actually). You don’t like feminists? Fine, then leave them alone. You don’t like fat, unfeminine, bitchy women? Great, then don’t pursue them and find the ideal woman for you. Will it be tough? Sure, but most things that are worth it, usually are. If such a woman was easy to find, such a woman would have little value. But the worst thing you can do as a man, is to complain and whine about the fact that women nowadays do not meet up to your standards or ideals. No one owes you anything. You’re not entitled to anything.
When you eventually come to that realization, you will tweak your mindset, purposefully go out and find the woman for you, ignore all the others, and in that process, find peace.
Well over half of the men in America are also overweight. There are more overweight men than overweight women in America. And you know that men face even bigger health risks when being that fat; that also mean they are even more unhealthy, as females get fat easier and males have a body built to burn fat fast and build muscles.
Men in American care even less about their attractiveness and health. Fat women in America still, in general, try to dress well enough, shave the excesses of body hair, apply make-up, etc. Now the men? Not even the healthy ones try to put enough effort into their looks.
The obliviousness to the male grossness many of you American males show is hilarious. You guys really believe women are blind and that only you guys want (well, you guys believe you DESERVE, even when you are ugly and gross yourselves) fit bodies to fuck, ahahaha! In all nature females are the ones to choose their mates by their fitness, strength, youth (even older females want and GET younger males as they have the valuable sperm; older females are still due to get pregnant so males don’t care. Even monogamous females “cheat” on their partners with younger, fit males as older males have trashy sperm) and beauty, why would female humans be any different? The stupidity.
It’s funny when your sexist generalizations don’t fit the people you are trying to insult. Meanwhile, as exhibited by your behavior, you are exactly roosh’s
Thank goodness …. some truth.
As a kid I was taught that men and women are different (woman are more emotional and all that crap), but I guess all human are the same. We wanted the same thing.
Funny. You feminist ladies always conveniently forget or ignore how much power women have had actually had throughout history. It’s women that have always set the rules for social conduct. You must act this way or this way in order to gain access to their vagina. NOW that it’s almost impossible for men to please women, now since that pursuit is seen as perverted by feminists, we’re nothing more than clowns. If we’re overweight, it’s because women told us that we don’t matter, that we can do anything without having to think ahead. And the best, healthiest REAL man has forethought. We are natural leaders after all.
There you are again with the sperm obsession
Shouldn’t you enjoy your limited time on this planet? Go fly a kite or something.
Homie, their eggs go to shit after 34, their bodies are saggy and gross, their faces just get worse, their thin skin shrivels up, and god damn ain’t nobody got time to fuck with that. More women than men are obese in the United States, for whatever that’s worth. Matched for age and education they still make less than us.
Many of us do in fact “pick and choose”–female choice and male desperation is not, in fact, a hard rule–and sweetie, the old, valueless hags have to get what they want by *lowering their standards*. There’s no shortage of “poor-ol-me” articles written by old single women who can’t figure out how to get men to pay attention to them. Sucks for them, I guess.
I don’t know if you’ve spent much time in “average America” but the women (and the men) there are not prime catches. The women are frequently just as nasty as some of the most bitter commenters here; they just vent in different places. Things are different among those people who have put in the work to be hot, but: well, they’re hot, so they can easily reap the rewards of their work, male or female.
If you want to lazily cite “all nature” as a justification for… I don’t actually know what your argument is–it seems to have something to do with sperm?–then why not look at chimpanzees? Their females have little value, outside of their ability to reproduce, and they are generally dominated by all males. (You’ll get off on reading “Male chimpanzees prefer mating with old females,” Muller MN et. al. Try to contain your excitement; nobody needs your “trashy sperm” on the tablecloth.) Other primates similarly feature generalized male social and physical dominance. Do you think the females in these groups really have any choice?
Other primates have nearly every arrangement of “who finds it easier to get sex” you can imagine–there are single males maintaining a harem of females, there are single females maintaining a harem of males, and much more. There’s no obvious “natural” conclusion that you can draw from this.
Why did those men of the 60s, 70s and 80s encourage women to stop caring about pleasing their men? It’s the most self-defeatist and self-deprecating attitude I can think of. Those manginas of old robbed their sons of love and companionship. Why would they hate themselves so much? They weren’t the ones robbing, murdering and raping… were they?? They didn’t know it but they also robbed women of what they need to feel confident in who they are… which is the love, comfort and security of their other half. It’s validating their beautiful femininity. It’s complimenting their womanhood. Since women are forced to spend so much time on the female parts, they need to feel good about being women. But feminists insists that they change to be more like men, making them feel ashamed of having vaginas. The concept that men and women are the same or we need the same things in life is so destructive for relationships between men and women. We’re supposed to be two halves a whole.
I agree.
Speaking of the good old days which it definitely was a much easier time meeting women for the men back then since it was a very completely different time altogether the way that our family members had it. Unfortunately a very bad time today for many of us good innocent men really looking for real love now which really explains why many of us men are still single today since the good old days are really all gone now. And many of us men do really blame the women of today that have really caused this real mess in the first place since most of us men Aren’t single by choice either.
Reading posts like this one is like reading good poetry: you think the author took a look at your brain and translated your thoughts into words in such a perfect way that you acknowledge you could have never done it that brilliantly. Perfect, sad but true… a must read.
Myself to a tee lurking here and the Manosphere.
I take it you got dumped Roosh, sorry to hear it mate.
How’s your white cape fitting these days?
I’ve been reading Roosh for 5+ years and this is possibly his best post yet. He’s put in his Gladwellesque 10,000 hours of mastery and he observes and documents patterns that others miss. I’m always looking for ways to incorporate these insights into my life. This short post has given me a lot to think about. The Apple snark is eminently quotable.
The last sentence is chilling.
Cheer up boys! The Sun is still shining. We are living in the most unique period in human history. There is an abundance of cheap, easy food. There is a plethora of entertainment. There is relatively little danger in society. There are almost no responsibilities or expectations culturally of men. Absolute losers are trumpeted has heroes, and role models.
You are living in the most amazing, strange, uncertain, and ultimately hedonistic time in human history. It is likely NOTHING like the era of planetary gluttony will ever be seen again. Cheer up. Drink up! Tomorrow this shit may all be over.
THIS right here…. Overwatch, you summed everything up.
We’re living in the “Oil Age”.
And in the West here, we’re living in the “massive government borrowing age” – where an artificial economic environment (government borrowing & debt) has supported an artificial social-system.
The artificial social-system (because it is not economically self-sustaining without government) includes the generous welfare state, feminism as we know it (which is heavily propped up by female public-sector employment, eg, UK public sector is 65% female), anthropologically absurd mass-immigration and the failed multiculturalism experiments.
The Debt Age (& our fake society) will be coming to an end as the debts reach terminal levels – the international credit rating agencies are the only ones keeping the politicians honest now.
Agree hole 100% with TheOverwatch. I can’t imagine why men on here are complaining and bashing women. For goodness sake … men wanted to run around spreading their seed … a man with some game and graciousness and grooming will get just that (same as women)…. and when both parties are tired of the current game/relationship they can end it and move onto the next … I have my hut and take care of my business and he has his hut and can take care of his slop hole and not hear me complain about having to pick his shit up … best world for everyone, especially if you are over the age of 50 and there are no longer children involved. I LOVE BEING SINGLE and no having to deal with marriage and LTR … when the person and I are dating and we no longer see eye to eye or if he or I go up a pants size … hey, time to end it and move on …. You just can’t beat this … why men are complaining is beyond me.
Men … you can take some responsibility by having the big V done so that you will not have offspring to either abort or pay for … take some damn initiative and control your future instead of letting your lead head do all the thinking … for goodness sake. We all left the world along time ago where we needed each other … now it is a choice and through choices only the better people win. Forcing either a man or a women into needing or doing for another produces conflict and resentment. Good people will continue to find relationships … people who need to work on themselves will complain and blame.
You are despicable. Since you are woman, you do not get to tell us men how we should think or feel about our place in the world. Do you see men telling women to enjoy have periods and going through menopause as if we know exactly what you’re going through?? NO. Because that would be WRONG.
Wow. Great post.
If Roosh et all had hobbies outside of the manosphere they might find themselves in real communities with dynamic, multidimensional women who have interesting personalities whom you can have stimulating relationships with. If you only find and attract dull, shallow, uninteresting people, it could be because you yourself have dull, shallow, uninteresting priorities. Its a wonder the manosphere never talks about much else than banging or working out. The manosphere, besides being obsessive about male prowess to the point of homoeroticism, seems to attract people with the most average taste and basest intellect. Its no wonder you only end up around crappy chicks in lame social situations.
tldr: NAWALT
do what you want, go where you want – *based on what/where you want to do/go that isn’t primarily based on getting laid*. girls and sex are great, but secondary. if there was some mission driving you to a city even as abhorrent as toronto, but you believed in the mission, you’d go there, do your thing, and have no trouble hooking up during your downtime. you feel like an entertainment monkey because you’ve been willing to play that part. so it’s your fault.
“The only girls with good personalities who are smart or maybe funny or halfway intelligent or talented, though god knows what the fuck that means, are ugly chicks … and this is because they have to make up for how fucking unattractive they are.”
Quotation marks don’t make something a fact.
No but your comment definitely makes you a faggot.
The quotation marks are because it’s a quote from American Psycho you twat
Ahem. I hope you noticed the word “Psycho”, and it’s implications!
Dear sl:
Read a little bit about statistics, and you will learn that we are surrounded by bell curves—curves more formally known as normal distributions, or Gaussian distributions. All manner of things appear to be distributed normally: people’s heights,IQ scores, examination grades, sizes of snowflakes, errors in measurements, lifetimes of lightbulbs,
weights of loaves of bread, milk production of cows, chest sizes of Scottish soldiers, and so on. So women behavior is not the exception to this rule. the comon sense will tell you that generalizations are not fair but that’s the way it is.
The problem is the kind of generalization. Roosh can’t prove with real researches even 1% of the shit he says.
But I can after 20 years of experiences and a test pool of probably around 1000 women.
“The claims are not true of the whole” – look at how many angry comments are here and you have the audacity to put together this bullshit fact-defying argument? Get the fuck outta here.
Nope, you can’t, even if real experiences that’s not scientific data.
Nope, and you also can’t make me GTFO, you don’t own shit around here. And you are the one talking about angry comments and audacity…
I am looking at mass data, identifying patterns and making assessments. That’s what researchers do. And I already eliminated the personal bias because I’m not even talking about my own experiences.
So, that said, I told you to get the fuck out because you don’t have a leg to stand on. And, as you made clear in your response, like most left-swiping loud-mouthed 3 holed pieces of shit, you don’t make sense, either. How would anything that I am writing convince you that I am uncivilized? Because I tell you to get the fuck out of the conversation because you don’t make any sense? Get the fuck out.
Haha, I love the angry dudes and their hysteria.
You see, you can’t force anyone to “get the fuck out of here”, like I said, you don’t own shit over here. Telling people to “GTFO” doesn’t make them obey you as well. And you are the one to talk about logic…
And no, that’s called “disagreeing”, not “not understanding”.
But whatever, we can’t argument with dumb American dudes, you guys have no emotional control to even think straight for a second.
You even called my gender a “piece of shit”, lmao. If anything, we are of the same gender (or sex), haha.
“Armed with Knowledge” – yeah, that is a common type of username for that kind of degenerate straight American dude. Weird.
Not a single thing you write makes logical sense, but hope you enjoyed the last word. Syke!
Lol, this is somewhat true. Women are hypergamous; that is, they strongly prefer to date up. Most guys are indistinguishable. No social status, brains or money, etc. They have nothing going for them. They are on the same level as the girl they are trying to bang. So they are toys until a real man comes along.
The problem with this is that it still all comes down to “game”. Because if you’re rich and powerful, that doesn’t make a woman inherently sexually more attracted to you. It means you’re being “used”. Is Bill Gates the most attractive or “alpha” male, just because he managed to become one of the richest business owners on the planet? Will women inherently respect him and crave him and fantasize about him as a man because of this? Not in today’s culture. In today’s culture, sexual values have been artificially skewed to favor shallowness, falseness, and degeneracy. We live in an era of deception. “Values”, “truth”, “faith”, “passion”, “purpose”, will all become increasingly meaningless in time. The “alpha” competition of modern society is not the same “alpha” competition in prehistory – in prehistory it was foundational, the origins of classic “manhood”. Because while competitive inner selection was necessary to produce superior people for survival, those people also needed to have enough collaborative value to have collective strength. Collectivity has been humanity’s survival asset. False “alphas” of the fake, manipulative, charismatic, psychopathic variety would have destroyed our species from the getgo. They are not “natural” selection. They are a post-evolutionary mutation, a traitorous parasite to our species. And they are hierarchical. The psychopathic powers at the top, owning the world, like to promote lesser psychopaths because they are more likely to compete amongst each other rather than rise up and cast off the top. A world of psychopathy becomes a world of illusion. Lies become truth. Natural and spiritual evolution loses its path. Religion is just an allegory for these inherent existential truths.
This post is almost comical in its stupidity.
Yeah, because proclaiming that it isn’t true and that you get all the women somehow makes you feel successful and worth something, right? Admit it, you are a woman’s dress and you are a juggling clown on the street like millions. Crazy that we Have to deny the truth because it strikes the root of our natural inclination towards what encompasses success.
Imagine if women who failed to get pregnant were shamed for failing to become fertile and somehow had to prove their worth by denying that they aren’t successful.
Fucking parallel universe here.
To use Platos allegory of he cave- what are some interests that could evolve them from their bland lifestyle?
Illuminate them with your insight?
I’m sure you consider yourself a “dynamic, multidimensional woman” with an “interesting personality”. And therein lies the problem since everyone else sees you (and a scary percentage of western women) for what you are – a delusional, combative waste of time.
And you saying “everyone else” does this or that or sees someone as this or that proves that is true.
Are you actually insinuating that meatheads, the only group to which you cunts flock to in droves for your squirting fun, are the ones complaining here?
Wow, just wow.
So comically true!! Nice job.
Happy ? Ok, understood and it does make sense as the State is Providing for you everything on a Golden plate. But, Proud ? of what !?
Proud because right from “ass wipes” to the “Internet/Facebook/Twitter etc”. are Invented, Innovated and Pioneered by MEN ? And you don’t have to do anything, other than Masturbating and …… !!!
“The manosphere, besides being obsessed about male prowess to the point of homoeroticism, seems to attract people with the most average taste and basest intellect.”
Hahaha! So true.
Manosphere = Gay
This post is as discerning as it is grim. Everything was so much better before smart phones. I mean, just five years ago there was a lot less flaking in the scene. Before smart phones, if I got a girl’s #, I’d probably end up on a date with her. Since smarts phones, the opposite is true. There is a causal relationship between the increased options women have and the flaking and general lack of reliability (and accountability–women today have no honor) men must endure because of it. Game is now a lot of work, for pleasures that are much more fleeting than they used to be. Meanwhile, women in the Anglo world become more intolerable every year–it’s extremely rare to meet a very good-looking woman here in the US who isn’t an entitled cunt, though many men still seem to be too obtuse to see her true colors. Still, this same ignorance saves these guys the pain of knowing just how bad their own condition is, like solders on the battlefield who cannot see the bullets coming.
Why should women today have any concept of honor–of keeping your word, doing the right thing, being accountable, etc.–when no matter what, there’s always a fresh crop of men lining up to get walked on just in order to get laid?
Getting laid should mean a woman got attitude and disrespected a man and got laid out with a right.
Because they don’t have to be held accountable for anything any longer. Our society has now given them a free pass to be “empowering”. That means no more using simple common courtesy at all.
The ‘You go girl’ attitude….has even replaced just everyday manners. Sad but true…..look around.
Exactly. And they still expect us to respect them as adults. Here, they have all the freedom in the world… and they refuse to choose responsibility, honor and love over “Me, me, me.” They literally are making it clear why the patriarchy existed. Why men needed to force these values on women.
beacause they wanted slaves???
Ur an idiot farah , grab a book sometime.
Any recommendations??Or maybe you are just deluded
Making someone behave properly is not akin to making slaves, you moron. Any way smelly c***s like you doesn’t deserve any further explanation !!!
Can the women make the men behave properly ???Oh yean.I forgot ,women don’t have the spiritual and intellectual level to address men thats why it goes one way.And as far as I know the man authority is not limited to directing the wive ti behave properly.
Only a very mentally disturbed woman would start a topic like this since she was Never normal to begin with.
Your comment makes absolutely no sense .
common sense is not “so common”, you filthy bitch !
It does to me.
Well sure it does.
Don’t bother to reply to this creature, it is like; throwing stone on “pile of shit”.
You got that right.
ahahhahahahaha.Bunch of pussies of men who want to feel manly by controling their wives
You might be smelling your mother’s cunt and mistaken it for mine
Said the retarded bitch.
looooooooool.Feel so sorry for your
Lol so because we’re acting more like you males with the “me me me” bs and actually fulfilling our own needs, wants, and desires because your gender has failed for thousands of years to do so… we’re the bad ones? Get fucked by a donkey.
When males actually develop manners as a whole maybe women will treat you with the courtesies you expect but can’t seem to give yourselves.
Women don’t respond to manners…it’s all about “who”. Thor (Chris Hemsworth) could smack you in the face and you would enjoy it versus just your average man. Women say these types of things in society, daily, but it’s all nonsense when you see them in action (practical).
All women eventually hit The Wall eventually. Surprisingly, the prettiest American women can hit the Wall HARD and EARLY – most often by 35 (a little more if their asian).
Take solace brother in that it is truly a Mans’ World. If a man takes care of their health and maintains a healthy lifestyle, men can actually get better (e.g., increased income, status, etc.) and more handsome and distinguished with age. Foreign women outside the U.S. generally regard American men as a good catch and boyfriend and husband material, if that is indeed your end-game – nothing wrong with that even if your an Alpha Male. Foreign women generally prefer older men, rather than younger guys. For indigenous American women, it only gets worse with age – women in America are judged harshly by their appearance, even by other women. American men can always go to southeast asia to find some young, hot chick that will really like you and see you as the great Man that you really are.
Ba-Damn. I’m so happy to be an American Man, God Damn it.
Sounds desperate. but, when yours is a welfare state, and the laws are feminist corrupted. what else to expect? at the end, Women will feel the heat, when men of future generation will show their back.
“If a man takes care of their health and maintains a healthy lifestyle, men can actually get better (e.g., increased income, status, etc.) and more handsome and distinguished with age.”
MORE HANDSOME WITH AGE???? Are you fucking kidding me? Or do you really prefer and get hard for older dudes? That is YOUR taste, then, but please, that is not true at all lol.
Most men start balding way before 35, they find it much harder to lose weight and maintain muscles, they get flabby chests and stomachs, wrinkles. Oh so handsome, indeed! Also, their sperm is now garbage that should never be used for procreation anymore, not if you care about humanity’s future and healthy offspring.
Women all over the planet prefer a hot young uy. The hot young studs have youth, good looks, and stamina (lol) on their side. No baggage, std, or drama to worry about. The older guy probably has a divorced behind him, with children, child support, alimony, and a std. An older body, flabbiness, wrinkles, is probably balding/bald, hard-on problems and a hurting back (LOL) and mutant sperm that should not be used for procreation anymore. What kind of young girl would put with that? Only a stupid lower female or a desperate, financially poor woman. For the young girl, the hot young stud has many more years to assist her in raising children compare to the older guy who will impregnate her with mutated sperm (not the best offspring there, maybe god forbid a sick baby) and in 20 years, she will be wiping his diapers. Gross.
“Foreign women generally prefer older men, rather than younger guys.”
Not most foreign women at all. The only ones that could put up with that are the golddigger ones that want to escape their misery. She won’t like YOU and see you as a great man in any way, though. You are just a tool. Guys that are that blind about their own grossness and oldness and seek young chicks that SHOULD be with young hot studs for the sake of humanity (most women all over the world prefer men up to 2 years older than them), as only young and fit men have valuable sperm, are not great man. Much to the contrary, you guys are the shittiest trash to ever exist in this planet, using your money to manipulate young poor females and ending up screwing our genes with your mutant sperm, and in the end human civilization.
Men like you are shit. Not “alpha” at all. Any real alpha would punch you in the face for wanting to screw humanity and our genetic pool even more.
That was funny
You sound sad and desperate. Do you not like the idea of a man owning his autonomy, having personal agency, telling women to go fck themselves?
u been saying some real sht up until now LOL now u just sound like ur trolling and just saying w/e u have to as long as it disagrees with w/e anyone says on here QQ just saying LOL…
We have swallowed the red pill. We are now on the Nebacanzza, except that there is no hot loving Trinity that we get to fall in love with.
I am not sure how I landed on this page while looking for something else, but oh boy! I didn’t think the dating scene is equally hard for guys as it is for some of us shy girls. Yes, that’s right I am a girl. After reading some of the posts here I have realised how a girls shyness can be assumed as being rude (mental note to correct this in myself) how making connection with modern woman is equally difficult for men as it is for women themselves. Being of eastern decent and having grown up in a household with traditional values where I was constantly reminded the importance of being independent was very confusing. However it made sense right after my first real job. I was financially independent but not emotionally independent so getting married seemed to be the right thing to do, with a guy who I thought I had a connection. Now my worlds were torn apart when being financially independent he wanted me to behave as a submissive wife seeking his permission for everything that mattered to me. I was prepared to ‘submit’ if this was beneficial to the relationship but not where he could go about his life with gambling away my hard earned money. My objections to this made him feel less of himself and I was accused of being ‘strong headed’ ‘dominating’ female who did not know how to live with a man. So I decided to leave him and haven’t been back to the dating scene since. Reading this makes me think how we all want the same things in life but somehow in this modern society where women have taken two steps further to match with those of men we have reached a stage of disconnect. The relationships I see working well in today’s times are ones where men are not trying to lead but walk with women, they are no longer only the ones talking but are also good listeners and have genuine interest in their female partners lives. Then there are these alpha males who aren’t ready for modern women yet so women with these men still choses to stay two steps behind and listen to them talking about ‘their jobs’ ‘ their dreams’ ‘ their knowledge of the world from various travels’ to make them feel they are leading us. Turn the tables and you have lost the interest of these men.
Anyway I think you guys all know what works for you and what doesn’t and especially if it’s just about picking up and sex then what’s there to think about… Right?but I just thought you could all use a bit of female perspective. Hope this doesn’t offend anybody coz I am just a girl what do I know? 🙂
I love that you’re listening to us, you care. BUT what modern women don’t understand is that two people can’t drive the same vehicle at the same time. What we need to do is concentrate on helping the drivers understand the road and the passengers better. We need to concentrate on making better men out of our boys. And dare I say, we need to work on making women / ladies out of our girls. By fighting among ourselves, all we’re doing is ignoring the kids. I’ve seen my fill of bad drivers. They all look like they don’t care. That’s not good. People can get hurt in the wake of a self-servicing and selfish / reckless and thoughtless driver.
then start teaching yours sons to stay home and nurture children since they have nothing to do
I earn over $95,000 a year how much do you earn? You don’t even have the right to smear women with your misogynist post. I’m reporting this website to the Toronto police.
And what, exactly, do you expect the police will do?
Why are riding a city bus if you’re ear 95k a year? Toronto is a suburb city, you need car.
Because she doesn’t make 95k a year
Obama’s thought police can’t stop us yet
Has to be a troll, wow
again please leave you dirty asshole whore…
no one cares about your posts.
lol…fuck the Toronto police. And that 95K a year is low compared to me…so keep on working. Maybe you’ll get my respect one day when you start acting like a lady, again.
You’re weak, shut the fuck up.
horrible attitude some of you feminists have. so u report to the police and what ? want to harass some guy just for posting their opinion ? incredible. just wait until sex bots replace people like you. and make no mistake , that will happen
Now go and get my sandwich !
I will rape you to death you filthy cunt.
and if you have sex with one you will be getting hours of texts from them per day afterwards is the worst thing
Give a woman a phone and a dildo and she acts like she’s set for life. Men on the other hand, rightfully see phones and toys as a means to an end and that’s it. The best of us, the family man values family and friends, intimate partnerships, loyalty and love of another person one helluva lot more than a tool. And it’s really ugly when women so commonly and so easily generalize us all as sex-fiends.
This may sound like a crazy interpretation, but I think the chorus of “Smells Like Teen Spirit” is about this:
With the lights out, it’s less dangerous
Here we are now, entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now, entertain us
I’d take Zeppelin, Soundgarden, Nirvana, or Alice N Chains over any of this top 40 mind control we have today. Even if all the bands I mentioned were probably a bunch if druggie hippie dudes in their personal life’s I guarantee you they had higher its than the brave new world Generation Y and millenials around today.
The 80s, with heavy metal like Metallica, offered a gutteral response of protest to the downward spiral. It was angry – pointing a finger outward.
The 90s brought us grunge, where the anger was still there, but now with the sentiment of resignation. Kurt knocking himself off was a metaphor of the American male.
Fast forward to the new millenium, and all the men have been effectively removed. We only have the voices of Beiber and Bruno Mars – more boys than men. They are the only acceptable voices for Team Feminism.
The decline of music in the US represents the decline of the American male.
There is no long term satisfaction for the life of an ‘alpha’ , as this post testifies.To keep women satisfied requires a level of male authority way beyond your childish clowning. Are you going to carry on with this charade?
“To keep women satisfied requires a level of male authority way beyond your childish clowning.”
Hamsterlation: Hurry up, man up and marry a slut.
I come home in the morning light
My mother says when you gonna live your life right
Oh mother dear we’re not the fortunate ones
And girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have fun
The phone rings in the middle of the night
My father yells what you gonna do with your life
Oh daddy dear you know you’re still number one
But girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have
That’s all they really want
Some fun
When the working day is done
Girls – they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have fun
Some boys take a beautiful girl
And hide her away from the rest of the world
I want to be the one to walk in the sun
Oh girls they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have
That’s all they really want
Some fun
When the working day is done
Girls – they want to have fun
Oh girls just want to have fun,
They want to have fun,
They want to have fun…
I prefer Lene Lovich’s “New Toy” to Cyndi Lauper’s “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” …
“I want a new toy … to keep my head expanding …”
I suspect that Lene Lovich would have seriously kicked Cyndi Lauper’s ass in a no-holds-barred cat fight … 🙂
Hell, making men look like clowns is even in commercials:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJ8mCV39M8
Christ man, is it really that bad???
It doesn’t seem so to me. Women still want relationships. I just don’t see that it’s so extreme…plenty of good women want to try a relationship with plenty f men. If they’re unsatisfied, a bit messed up in the head or don’t know what they want, they’ll move on. But a lot don’t….
The ones that stay around will usually be insufferable to deal with. If a woman feels that she hasn’t “settled” for her best possible match, she’ll either:
1. Cheat and move on and possibly come back later with her tail between her legs
2. Get him to break it off (i.e. get his permission to slut around and find something better)
3. Be insufferable and combative while blaming him for her behavior
4. File for divorce and ruin him emotionally and financially while raising fatherless kids who grow up with no male influence and think people like Justin Bieber and Carson Kressley are ideal masculine role models.
Granted, some women are not like this. Some modern women are genuinely self-actualized, secure and accountable to themselves and others, but these women are in the very, VERY small minority and are likely already committed to quality men.
The women you are likely seeing that are happy in their relationships are usually fully convinced in their own minds that they’ve found their best match. I wish them the best. But the reality is, many women feel they’re entitled to better men than they currently have. Their expectations are grossly misaligned with reality.
I think what Roosh is trying to argue here to some extent is that more and more women are following this model of errant behavior and the trend is very disturbing.
Amen!
sounds like self-improvement is a fool’s gambit in the modern world; time to stock up on heroin and ecstasy. getting busted will only increase attraction.
Lol, this is mostly true. See: http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/millennial-sexual-revolution-relationships-marriage
However, when you have money and power, it’s a completely different story. Adaptation and the struggle to survive is a secondary drive in the evolution of animals, behind the desire to expand one’s power. All life seeks primarily to expand itself. No matter what type of situation individuals find themselves in, their will to power comes through in some way or another. Most people are losers with nothing to offer.
Sad, but true.
This post is refreshing in its honesty. Way too many guys in the manosphere engage in what can only be described as therapeutic bravado. Understandable, given the miserable state of modern gender relations, but delusional.
What you write here is correct. Women need male tax dollars of course, but they do not need any one of us individually (that is certainly their perception anyway). Nor do they particularly want us. It’s a hopelessly lopsided market, that is somehow becoming increasingly lopsided with each passing year.
On a related note, I would content that the manosphere grossly overstates the number of carousel riders, and grossly understates the number of carousel watchers. That is, women who are so delusional and narcissistic about their own worth that they believe, subconsciously or not, that they are too good for everyone. So they wait… And they wait.
Both carousel riders and watchers squander their assets in different ways. The rider feeds every man in her entourage until there isn’t a drop left in the milk jug. The watcher just lets the milk rot on the counter. From a man’s perspective, it’s six of one and half a dozen of the other. It makes no difference (though I would content that the watchers are a worse problem than the riders – at least sluts serve a purpose).
Either way, they are an endless source of frustration. But in our lashing out, we reflexively label them all sluts anyway, as we know subconsciously that we can get more mileage out of accusing them of being excessively slutty than excessively (snobbishly) chaste.
{Citizen Kane clap}
ll of you whining idiots, complaining that women don’t need you guys anymore (thanks goodness)… do you guys need women? Individually speaking, of course? Do you guys feel any neediness for women and that is the reason you guys feel butthurt when women can lead their own lives without having to obey a male “master”? Cause really, all that nonsense is just ridiculous.
I have to laugh at your sexism and also the sexism of the author both are anti egalitarian pricks believing separate ideologies one of which was directly created by a mixture of bourgeoisie capitalists and the hence mentioned so called “jews” that nazis complain about (when in fact what they are really complaining about is an esoteric sect that is familial not ethnic in nature and which also recruits non familal people into it albeit mostly in lower orders and positions, the racist thing really does my nut even if its specific to the Ashkenazi group who not actually Semitic therefore are not jewish unless that is their religion because 99.9% of Ashkenazis are not in said familial group and of those that are they are very diluted Ashkenazi because it is a familal not ethnic thing) im talking about certain types of feminism here) and the other was a reaction to said problems of those ideologies and whilst not directly created by the same bourgeoisie or esoteric alliance (more on my fairly unique position on this later) it was entirely of their planning as yet another result of dialectical syntheis (problem (of their creation) reaction solution, of course the solutions further their aims of breaking down society in whatever form it is taking in reponse to their external pressuers)
The problem with some feminist is they blame all men for the actions of a violent minority, some are just wanting to forecfully convert hetero or bisexual women to lesbianism through covert means of man hating instead of the feminism I admire which aims to break down gender binaries not reinforce them as an excuse to bash men with for the sterotype of women being romantic and men being dogs fertilizing things is in fact a media created image not a reality and is then used by that same media to prepose a solution to that particular problem
The problem with some maybe a lot of mens right activist is that is all about shaming women and exaggerating a real problem and also believing so called progress is via brining back old gender binaries that where created artifically by the same people that are now creating the new ones, the same people that are stopping mens geneder binary being trully broke down so people can be free.
The problem with some socialists is that they fail to see the religious side of the problem from the estoerics instead somehow believing the media indoctrination its all the fault of established religions like ISLAM (which inspite of its oppression in women in some places and horrific sucide bombers (whose ideolgy was in fact influenced by esotercis who diverted them at the end of the 19th centuary or so from their core beliefs) or Hinduism/Christianity etc. The ones that see the esoteric symbols then say it all means nothing or it just looks cool etc are the biggest tools along with the ones with the ones who claim because some tv show said the “illuminati” ( correct name is order prefctibilis which sounds a lot less silly) where a secular organisation that that must be true or that because the founder on his death bed said the order was finished when said order was more secretive than the masons is actually a trust worthy guy whose word can be took as gospel.
Said idiots also often have never read a book by Albert Pike called “morals and dogma” or the great book called “Pawns in the game” (of which I believe most but not all content to be true) and dont understand the rules of numerology then attempt to make jokes mocking it, if they actually understood how it worked and made a logical rational spoof that obeyed the laws of numerology and the religious like importance certain groups give to certain numbers as outlined by Mr Pike and that it comes from the ancient Egyptian religions they might get it and elicit a smile because they do not shows them to be rather unintelligent or at least lazy!
At least half the folk banging on about numbers are not doing so because they find numbers fascinating like idiot savants but that because they understand to the elite certain patterns are important, the sad thing is said patterns are always found between noteworthy news items yet attempting to predict when these events will come is impossible because their are a hell of a lot of days and years between momental events like say world war 1 and world war 10 that can have 333 days between them for example or one terrorist boming and another that can have 7 days or 666 days between them ( repetiton of 33 such as 333 or 3333 and of 666 along with 7 and 11s are the sacred numbers to these sects and a lot of it is to do with square numbers its them not I that put the importance on these numbers because to them it is like some form of ritual to make events occur after a certain number of days. I also believe part of it is that they control the press so if an event doesnt quite align with their wanted figures they can say it does so something happening at 1 minute before the next day they will just report as being the next day any way, its not all down to them having meticulous ability to get their own way also the 666 is more a mock Christianity than sacred number type thing to them compared to those other numbers)
The problem with some other smarter socialists is that they recognise that their is a conspiracy but put it all down to the rothchilds some even are brave enough to admit that it goes beyond just the negatives of capitalism and is a specific familal issue but they then deny the religious element, some even smarter ones on the verge of correctness acknowledge both but dont see the threat of a worshipping Lucifer ” I dont believe in so it can harm me is their response” yes but whereas some sects worship lucifer in a way that wont harm us and so as a Christian I dont care if their not harming me or others some darker sects do in fact believe stuff like they are better than the rest of us etc and that our lives are worthless, that we should die to make more room for them (as the georgia guidestones suggest) and that children should be sexualized and other such abhorrent things as oppose to the consenting adults not harming others trope the other form of luciferanism espouses which is not particularly threatening on its own. The scary thing about some of the darker sects of luciferanism is that they actively believe we need to be killed in order for them to either get power from lucifer or in order for them to become like gods we must be sacrificed, its not the existential threat of a lucifer people need worry about but the fact that a largely familal power structure has such insane resources and the means to make such dystopian and totalitarian visions come true.
The problem with some capitalists/far right religious types from mainly america but some other places too is that they blame socialism for everything whilst not seeing the difference between far left heroes of mine like Guevara and Hugo Chavez and totalitarian Marxists like Marx whose manifesto I believe was a desire to misdirect the cause of egalitarianism engrained in our hearts in a negative direction via inclusion of superfluous and nefarious material in amongst the good of his work as an attempt to hide a lot of crap amongst a core good he claimed to believe in but didn’t, he has a picture of him with his hand under his jacket in a pose which is often incorrectly refereed to as “the hand of free masonry” when in fact it is the hand of esotericism, which is a diverse and not totally negative group but the forms he was associated with, jacobanism, theospianism and rosecruxianism where very negative forms of esoteric religions.
They also fail to realize that the reason certain negative feminist forms are being promoted is because the elite families are scared that true egalitarian and libertarian socialism will break out and tax all rich people more not just every one excluding billionaires and cult members… So they need a division away from traditional socialism which aims to divide and conquer, heck even I am aware that all isms from socialism thru to capitalism are ideologies initially started by said same families in order to divide us into groups that cannot work together for collective peace, individual and human rights and technological and ethical progress.
They fail to see that the esoteric elite hope for an ultra capitalist feudal system in addition to religious hedgemony.
Marxists, true marxists not idealist marxists who don’t actually agree with many of his more negative tenants, certain feminists and men rights group and certain humanist groups and even capitalists are ALL being used as pawns in the game because when society collapses they will blame these radicals and political ideologies and then it will be said religion is needed after all and of course which religions step foward to be the religion of the previously secular and atheist peoples? Yup very narrow and dark forms of esotericism as opposed to all the more benign and flowerly self meditation and betterment forms…. The forms practiced by the elite.
The solution is for people to become socialists but a different kind of socialist, firstly we need unity to recognize we are human, and direct democracy ala what Hugo Chavez instituted where members of the public directly vote on local issues. A socialism divorced from the writings of Karl Marx and instead with a firm dose of FU to the esoteric cults and a strong focus on individual rights, freedom and inherent human worth, one in tune with the utopian ideal we are all equal and that peace not continual revolution or subservience to a party is the ultimate aim. Will this happen?
No racists will continue to blame “the jews” feminists will continue to blame “the men”, mens right groups will continue to blame “women” capitalists will continue to blame “socialists and point out marx was an esotericist” socialists will continue to point out the monetary, Capitalist-like aspect of the elite whilst largely failing to recognise the religious aspect or at best naively thinking non belief in a religions deity saves you from the negative consequences of those who do believe in a Lucifer (again not all Lucifer worshippers will have the threatening supremacist or abusive beliefs as there are diff sects).
The atheists will continue to blame the religious yet give the negative esoteric sects a free pass (or offer up examples of more harmless esoteric sects as to why that means ALL esoteric sects are harmless) and the religious will continue to blame the more hateful “millitant” atheists along with american religionists also adding unnecessary hateful comments about the more benevolent esoteric sects which makes open minded people from Muslims, Christians and Hindus etc all look like closed minded jerks.. All this divide and conquer and being led by the “blindfold” will cause us all to miss that which is “hidden in plain sight” and will eventually lead to their plan succeeding UNLESS someone can get us to realize the common enemy and get people to let go of their anti x-race hang ups, anti x-gender hang ups, anti social welfare or anti buisness hang ups and work together for a team at least until the main threat is dealt with and if such does not happen at this point in time say 300 or so years later we will all be baby eating sickos worshipping PAN and having no human rights laws nor any decency or empathy.
That I do not want for humanity and nor do we deserve it, we should not let said sect manipulate things via dint of creation of different political ideologies and then the resulting new ideologies that occur as a backlash to problems created via the first set of crazy ideologies.
Oh and one last problem, even those aware of esoteric sects tend to make the mistake of blaming all esoteric sects and some for whatever reason feel the need to bring the pope or the queen of England into the conspiracy theory which makes zero sense and is just not true as being in said sect is against the religion of the pope and whist the royal family are formally members of one of the sects all most all of them bar 1 notable exception do not talk like they have any actual knowledge of what their own sect let alone the higher up levels of the sects actually believe, for most they are more focused on their church which makes them defacto non members of the elite for me!
Yeah, I was sooo sexist, huh.
And dude, why post a book for me to read? That has nothing to do with my comment, fuck off lol.
Yes, I soooo sexis in my comment… not.
And dude, don’t write a book for me, please. It has nothing to do with my comment.
Haha! I have now officially seen it all within the manosphere.
First, you complain about the women that are sluts and carousel riders and now you complain about the ones that are on the opposite end and prefer to keep themselves chaste for the better quality men.
You’ve finally realized that not all girls are stupid enough to fall for your silly ‘game’ tactics and are upset that all you can rack up now are used up sluts that would give it up for any guy that just happens to say the right thing at the right time.
It has finally dawned on you that while you may enjoy the brief physical release and novelty that these sluts provide, it is no comparison to the fulfillment that you receive when you have sex with a girl that won’t just give it up for just anyone, that actually loves you and won’t be quick to trade you up when times are tough.
In your slut hunting and inability to hold off for a girl that’s actually worth your time or pursue a girl that wants to wait a little before hoping into bed with you, you attempt to shame these good girls too by calling them ‘narcissistic and delusional’. Well, newsflash buddy, these girls are the ones that actually have a good deal of self respect for themselves and are, in most cases, the ones that would provide more fulfilling love and sex lives. They don’t wait until the milk rots on the counter, they wait until they find good men that are worthy of such milk. But nope, you would rather run after sluts, because apparently, ‘it’s a numbers game’ and then come on blogs like these to bitch and whine about how you get no love or attention or sex from the worthy girls. You may think sluts are dumb, but funny enough, they really aren’t. They’re just doing the same things that you’re doing. You ride your carousel with them and they ride their carousel with you. You cannot fuck freely and wantonly and expect the people that you’re fucking to not do the same to you. You want a high quality girl? Be a high quality guy and only pursue the high quality girls.
You cannot eat your cake and have it. If you want to stop feeling like you’re a clown or disposable to these girls, go after the more chaste ones, court her, respect her wanting to delay sex until the relationship has progressed enough and reap the fruits of your labor by achieving a more physically and emotionally satisfying sexual relationship.
Ohhhh stop it, men feed your worthless ass, so just shutup.
No bitch, men don’t pay me shit, I have my own money, I laugh everytime that I meet some loser who wants to pay me anything, eww I mean I have a job, no thanks honey. That’s what many of you would like, to pay everything so you can brag about it later, you pussy ass.
”Worthy girls” lol guys I have some news for you: all girls are slut who loves the D, the ones who pretends to be good are only doing that, pretending, a woman doesn’t need to spend months without sex so she would be ”respetable” lol that’s pure sexist shit.
Alex you are a prudish and you don’t get it honey, just like all the prudish and stupid girls out there whom always end up being fucked up by men, those men are sexist pigs, they just like to hate women and talk shit about them, blaming them for everything, no matter what type of woman you are, so stop with your prudish bullshit like if you are superior to the ”sluts”.
Anyway, all humans want sex, male and females, monogamy and all that it’s nonsense and unnatural, the sooner you accept it, the better.
I agree, it is a tragedy. You can choose to be different though.
Where we are going with this was described by George Orwell in 1984:
“We have cut the links between
child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman.
No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But
in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children
will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a
hen. … ”
It is almost as if this whole dynamic that Roosh describes serves some sort of evil purpose. Whether by accident or design something is being created. As I get older and see more I am beginning to realize that it is by design. I wonder why.
Why? Seriously?!
Read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike. Check out Real Zionist News.com and iamthewitness.com
Henrymakow.com is good too.
Please grow up. Conspiracy people often cannot face the idea (reality) that no-one is “in charge of it all”.
This idea is deeply scary for some people – so they actually derive comfort in conspiracism. Hey, at least “someone is pulling the strings”.
Hey Roosh, one of the best post of 2014!
Hey Roosh, I’m back! As I said before, I enjoy reading the
posts from you and ROK blog but I am giving my two cents this time…
It’s silly to even ask about needs, women and men are born to need each other. Unfortunately,
in life one must also adapt and attempt to survive without. Through history men
would go off to war and most did not come back. Women had to survive and
provide for themselves and the children left behind. Speaking for my fellow Soviets, check the
history. World War II took a whopping 13 MILLION manly-military-men to their
graves. That figure is almost as much as the sum of every other country
fighting combined!! Competition to grab the few men returning was undoubtedly
high, women either upped their game, settled to share a man, or settled to
survive without one. This statistic not
only backs up my issue with your blog claiming women can’t be both feminine and
strong, but at the same time it also explains what circumstances need to take
place to raise the future daughters with the types of traits you admire. (And
the type of sons for the traits I admire.) For more current examples, have you
read about the consequences China’s favoritism for male sons has done over the decades?
There is like 30 million more men than women reaching adulthood, resulting in some
scary stuff due to circumstance. (And you thought living in DC was bad??)
My point is, asking a woman if she wants a man, the answer is undoubtedly yes.
Hesitation only exists from lack of specification of what kind of man (preference
is on a good smart masculine man). Since the gender gap is small then the
selection pool is high. If I were to ask you or your readers if you want a woman,
the answer is undoubtedly yes. BUT if given a choice between stereotypical
Americans, you’d probably choose to survive with your hand. Well in your case,
jump ship to Ukraine/Poland. This leads me to my final note…
You said:
“Women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men
anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. They seek hedonistic
pleasure.”
That’s a statement true for modern men as well. It’s true for all humans
that grow up with a sense of entitlement, security and luxury. When they no longer have to worry about their
needs they adapt to worrying about their wants. Women are good at making a
home, but men no longer seek to make one with her. Why would they when they can
keep their bachelor pad and bed a new girl every night? Imagine if tragedy struck, who would you think of? I doubt a
random girl. It would be the beautiful one that gave you the comforts of a home,
the one you emotionally connected to and the one that filled you with purpose
in life as a man. When tragedy strikes, there’s no shame in an Alpha having
Beta feelings, because the right woman will be there to make you feel right
again.
…
It’s thoughts like this that make me believe that it takes a war or something
truly bad to happen to jolt today’s modern society back to caring about what’s
actually important in life.
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P.S. I apologize for how lengthy that was, please don’t block me!
Stupid computer glitch, posted as guest first and now I can’t delete it!
Hey Roosh, I’m back! As I said before, I enjoy reading the posts from you and ROK blog but I am giving my two cents this time…
It’s silly to even ask about needs, women and men are born to need each other. Unfortunately, in life one must also adapt and attempt to survive without. Through history men would go off to war and most did not come back. Women had to survive and provide for themselves and the children left behind. Speaking for my fellow Soviets, check the history. World War II took a whopping 13 MILLION manly-military-men to their graves. That figure is almost as much as the sum of every other country fighting combined!! Competition to grab the few men returning was undoubtedly high, women either upped their game, settled to share a man, or settled to survive without one. This statistic not only backs up my issue with your blog claiming women can’t be both feminine and strong, but at the same time it also explains what circumstances need to take place to raise the future daughters with the types of traits you admire. (And the type of sons for the traits I admire.) For more current examples, have you read about the consequences China’s favoritism for male sons has done over the decades? There is like 30 million more men than women reaching adulthood, resulting in some scary stuff due to circumstance. (And you thought living in DC was bad??)
My point is, asking a woman if she wants a man, the answer is undoubtedly yes. Hesitation only exists from lack of specification of what kind of man (preference is on a good smart masculine man). Since the gender gap is small then the selection pool is high. If I were to ask you or your readers if you want a woman, the answer is undoubtedly yes. BUT if given a choice between stereotypical Americans, you’d probably choose to survive with your hand. Well in your case, jump ship to Ukraine/Poland. This leads me to my final note…
You said:
“Women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. They seek hedonistic pleasure.”
That’s a statement true for modern men as well. It’s true for all humans that grow up with a sense of entitlement, security and luxury. When they no longer have to worry about their needs they adapt to worrying about their wants. Women are good at making a home, but men no longer seek to make one with her. Why would they when they can keep their bachelor pad and bed a new girl every night? Imagine if tragedy struck, who would you think of? I doubt a random girl. It would be the beautiful one that gave you the comforts of a home, the one you emotionally connected to and the one that filled you with purpose in life as a man. When tragedy strikes, there’s no shame in an Alpha having Beta feelings, because the right woman will be there to make you feel right again.
It’s thoughts like this that make me believe that it takes a war or something truly bad to happen to jolt today’s modern society back to caring about what’s actually important in life.
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P.S. I apologize for how lengthy that was, please don’t block me!
“Why would they when they can keep their bachelor pad and bed a new girl every night?”
This kind of solipsism is one of the reasons why it’s difficult to take female commenters seriously.
No more than 1% of guys (maybe less) is even capable of ‘bedding a new girl every night’, or anything even close to that ridiculous number. So your argument about men no longer desiring to make a home with a woman is based on an absurd premise.
Hmmm You’re right, I did make an absurd statement. I am in no way trying to sound like I am close minded, so it is my fault for coming off that way. I do give you props for even reading that far down with all that I wrote by the way! Most of the internet, RooshV and ROK included, all make wild claims and it’s just a haphazard reaction to throw one right back in on occasion. And I guess I might as well point out that I wasn’t blaming men with that statement. I meant to say that anyone living in today’s globalized/Westernized society is accustomed to so many options…one of which is guys no longer having to be in exclusive physical relationships because plenty of girls give it up without having that conversation (both parties at fault) that most guys and girls feel it’s easier and more fun going around the carousel than settling with one. It’s hard to cover every view point in one comment, or even one post. So don’t let this one comment give you the impression that I think one way or another or that I think I know it all or that I should be disqualified as someone to be taken seriously. I probably would have just written off Roosh as a misogynist if I stopped reading after only one of his posts. Instead I got intrigued by his perspective that sometimes aligns with mine. So I come back and read this blog the same as you, because I learn something.I come here to evolve. I’d like to think that’s what taking the red pill is.
Hmm. No. You write with a fairly reasonable tone, but what you’d like to think is irrelevant. The Red Pill is a metaphor for awakening to the veiled truth of the reality around you. In other words, most of our modern western cultural “truths” are an enormous deception designed to cloud and confuse perceptions in order to manipulate. And just like the movie, until you “take the red pill” you are a potential agent of the system and cannot be trusted. It has nothing to do with evolution or learning new things. Barring interference by the agenda-driven, learning and evolution are just the natural consequences of life on this planet. If you want to understand red pill thought, ignore these nuenlightenment indoctrinators (feminists) and their buzzwords. Instead pay attention to life itself. Truth is not hate, even when it weakens your position.
Good job taking the one exaggeration from her comment to discredit the entirety of what she was saying.
Would it have made you feel better if she said,
“Why would they when they can keep their bachelor pad and bed a new girl every weekend (or every other weekend or every month or every 3 months)”?
The frequency doesn’t actually matter. The point is that men have become the commitment gatekeepers and it takes some sacrifice on the part of a man, to give up a life of novelty and commit to just one woman. No one can deny that. And I’m not saying that there aren’t men who happily make this sacrifice especially if they find the right woman, but you cannot ignore the significant number of men who would rather not and prefer to stick with the novelty.
Ah, but men are still being conditioned to give our all for women. That mindset continually gives us feelings of duty and responsibility that we’re not teaching women anymore. We are teaching women that whining and crying, stomping your feet and yelling like a kindergartner will get you anything you want. What do men get for all their suffering? The possibility of sex?? No. We get to hear how we’re all perverts for wanting sex from women, how we’re all oppressive bastards for wanting women to support us in our dreams, how we’re chauvinists for having pride in ourselves, our wives and our children. Basically, we’re not entitled to any joy in this life other what a woman will allow. THAT IS NOT RIGHT.
“Basically, we’re not entitled to any joy in this life, other than what a woman will allow.”
Isn’t the reverse of this, what the patriarchy basically stood for?
Women weren’t allowed a lot of rights, their behaviors and actions were heavily regulated by men. And anything that a woman wanted to do had to be approved by either her father (if she was unmarried) or her husband, if she was married.
I’m not saying either society, then or now is good, but one of your previous comments upheld the patriarchy as the should be standard of society, and frankly it sounds just as horrible, except for the opposite gender.
This is the realest shit you ever wrote
Roosh this is why I read your articles above and other game blog out there. It’s not just that you speak with complete sincerity about the times, about women, about life, no you are sincere even with your own dealings with women, your own feelings about what your doing are laid bare about what you’re doing. A clown, I have to admit that is a very powerful statement and I can certainly relate. It’s comforting to know I’m not the only one that feels that way.
Brothers this is the reality we are faced with. Only woman of past generations or from strong families can avoid being entrapped by the matrix.
The key IMO is to keep investment level extremely low…with patience, experience, maturity and understanding the rare and illusive unicorn (or at least close to it) may very well be within reach. Cultivate the right identity and there are decent woman that will be drawn your way.
Warm Regards
Women seeking traditional relationships exist. But only if they pass this one, important, essay question.
– Is family important to you?
If the answer is yes, congrats — you have found a traditional woman. If she says “I don’t really talk to my family” or “We’re kind of distant” or “It’s been a while since I talked to them” — then you know her value system is fucked up. This is the only reason women in Eastern Europe, Latin America, Africa, and parts of Asia are more warm, effeminate, and traditional — respect for the family structure. This is what our generation is actively destroying. It is also why poverty is more rampant in third-world countries. The family structure is something free, that does not require money or stimulated entertainment to take your mind off of what is important to your core value system.
Think of all the ways we replace family, and sincere relationships with…toys. Television, food, video games, pornography, drugs. All can be used minimally, but the use of them is abused more so in developed countries (US, Canada, Westen Europe, Oceania.) Why do you think there are more drug epidemics in (ironically) wealthier nations? Because it liberates people from needing family, and emphasises replacing family with consumerism to grow the economy, and line the pockets of those in positions of power.
Subsequently, this is why you hear modern men, and women complaining all the time. “Where are all the women?” or “where are all the men?” They have bought into consumerism, and the religion thereof. As human beings, we need things like community, friendship, and yes — husbands, and wives — to make our identities more whole, and to feel valued. Do these conversations between ROK/Roosh vying against Feministic blogs ever feel, petty, small, and childish? Does the over-the-top dialogue, mean retweets, and name-calling strike you as conversations adults would have?
They behave like common schoolchildren fighting about coodies, and “s-i-t-t-i-n-g in a tree” jingles. Our modern-day men, and women have been reduced to behaving like eight year-olds behind a keyboard.
The problem with overt questions is that women will often respond with dishonest answers.
The best way to know is to screen them out by watching what they do.
– Are they house proud?
– Do they take pride of their environment? cook, clean and take care of themselves?
– Do they love and respect men?
Important things to look for when with a girl. I’ve yet to meet a single one that ticks all of the boxes.
American men ticking all of the boxes would be an even bigger rarity.
I tick them all. And I’m British.
“From the first little worm they dare us to eat, to the last big shovel full of snow they convince us we can move, we are nothing more to women than an amusement park ride with life insurance.” (Married With Children, Season 8, Episode 2: Hood in the Boyz, 12th September, 1993).
World will continue to bleed and suffer as long as we dont find a solution to Jewish problem…
“Then I will simply repeat my performance on a someone new, because I’m a skilled clown, and that’s exactly what women today want.”
Yeah! That’ll show ’em!
Giving women everything they want hasn’t worked out too well for guys, on any front, so why continue to be a clown? Why not aim a little higher than performing for women?
You are right that modern females expect constant drama and excitement, and will sabotage relationships (and marriages/families/children) so they can get a new fix with the Next Guy. Very much consumerist depersonalization, as you note.
“so why continue to be a clown?”
Sex
If Princess Casting Couch wants you to be a clown, embrace your innermost evil clown in all its magnificent evil glory.
OH, OH … Princess Casting Couch likes rough play, likes being slapped around a bit? Baby, you’ve got the bonus play!
Do you go Arnold Palmer on her ass, or do you get her punch drunk like Muhammad Ali? SO. MANY. CHOICES.
It’s hard to pedestalise a woman when she’s trying to wipe the smeared make-up and spooge out of her hair and eyes, or when you can see your hand prints on her ass from how hard you’ve smacked it, or when she’s owning that shiner you just gave her for being mouthy like it’s a bag of silver dollars …
Become your own Insane Clown Posse.
OOOHHH YESSSSS I totally believe you meet many many many submissive masochist women like that to fuck! I mean, BDSM people actually go out with sane people that respect their sexual choices, not with little shits like you.
But hey, that is the porn you enjoy watching and now you keep fantasizing about it being the sexual preferences of all women (and all men) and praying that will become true in your life, uh? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Dear Jesus, you are a sad sack of douche. Replace “men” in the title of this post with “I, myself, and people who treat women the way I treat them” and maybe you’ll get a tiny inkling of whats wrong with this picture. Until then, a sad douche-clown you will remain.
Don’t give up on your quest for happiness Roosh.
It’s a sick world out there for sure. But as long as you maintain your integrity. It won’t matter that the world around you screwed up. At least you can hold your head up high and say “At least I gave it my best shot”
I have enough game knowledge to now use it sparingly. And I have a personal rule – “The less I have to use it on you, the more you’ll be worthy of my long term commitment.”
İ was trolling through okcupid for the past 5 days. it’s funny how in almost 90% of the profies, girls had the same message me:if you can make me laugh,have something interesting to say,and don’t message me if u only want sex written.I was thinking to my self that these bitches here only want a clown and are here just for attention whorin and entertainment. I blame the weak males for this shit.if only they had some dignity and didn’t sell it for a very low chance of getting a hole on a pretty face.
DAAAMN RIGHT!! I’ve done the same with POF shit.
All North American females only want a tall, dark and handsome millionaire, who’ll behave like a clown, grant them full access to his money, never object anything a female wants and never dare to have an own opinion.
THAT’S what I call a dream male for a North American female, just some kind of a pussified robotic millionaire with absolutely NO self esteem.
So much this.
You prefer women who don’t take your personality into consideration? Sense of humor is part of who you are, your personality. At least she isn’t going for guys with six packs only… come on.
What do you want women to ask for?
NOTHING
And do you also ask women for nothing?
When men complain about the unattractive women and pass them up for the attractive ones, are you not asking women for beauty?
When you complain that some women are too bitchy and boring and pass them up, are you not asking for them to be nice to you and be more interesting?
And you men whine and complain that women these days are ‘entitled’. It’s amazing that no one sees the blatant hypocrisy.
This.
Now, the women on OkCupid are requiring the men that write them be feminists or in other words, manginas. They want a man who can’t think for himself. A drone who refuses to value the men in his life. If he can’t value himself, how can he truly value his partner? In fact, manginas are more likely to cower in the face of danger than an alpha. Those weak manginas in the government are letting women walk all over them. It’s been like this since the early 70s.
All the women on those sites act like spoiled brat teenagers. They sound they’re constantly sitting on high horses… and some of them are so overweight, you wonder how or why they could possibly climb up that high. It makes you feel like they deserve a good shove off the horse and a good spanking. I mean, seriously. They want everything without giving anything.
Of course, they all have of good excuses. They owe it to themselves to be so selfish and self-absorbed, because so many men have been so “evil” to them or women close to them. It’s a horrible generalization that only a person on a high horse can make.
Yeah. Oh well, in 10 or 20 years when they all hit the wall us men will be living our dreams while they turn into old spinsters!
Hahaha!! ‘living our dreams’
Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but men hit their respective walls too. They loose their hair, get fat and their dicks don’t even get as hard as they get older. There are actually more overweight Western men than Western women. A lot of these women you call sluts now are smart enough to enjoy their younger years now and still get married before they get too old, while men keep sleeping around until they wake up one day and realize that they’ve become the creepy old dudes standing at the corner in a bar/club. Whether you like it or not, maybe not all but a lot of women will always have options.
But that’s fine, keep thinking and hoping that when you’re older, you’ll still have a shot with young and tight 20 year olds…reality will soon hit you like a slap in the face.
Dictatorship is the answer. Spread the word guys.
Dictatorship would mean that if I was in the power I could just judge you as not worth of living and torture you painfully everyday just to finally slit your throat after some 3 or 5 years. Well, spread the word!
“Men have become an utterly replaceable and expendable commodity in a girl’s life”
They’ve always been. The context of today’s life just shines more light on that fact
Not so much. We believe that bullshit because war hasn’t ravaged this continent in a long time. But have an invader roll up California and then all of a sudden men will become a must have accessory. Better to have a Sheepdog next to you when the wolves come a calling.
Nah. If hubby meets the business end of a bayonet, she can always happily hook up with Chong the Invader.
Men haven’t always been fungible, as they are today, but they have always been interchangeable.
So sick, and so true.
How did we get here? I think the answer lies somewhere in this thought.
Neither sex needs each other so we dedicate ourselves to corporations,
entertainment, and base pleasures instead, and this is a great tragedy
that most people believe is a sign of progress, a cause for celebration.
All of our lives we have been trained in school and in society to be good little workers. This society is the result. Perhaps the hippies were on to something when they asked if there wasn’t more to life than working for the man. Course they fucked up everything but that doesn’t mean the question wasn’t worth asking.
Brave New World, anyone?
Roosh-
Lets hear some more of those “rotating stock of questions I ask women “in future posts.
Ps-Hipsters and the word irony are cheesy but-
Isn’t it ironic how lousy women are yet men give up their best of all they’ve got to chase them?
Women need to be put back down from their pedastool.
I was thinking the other day. Has a woman ever in your life pleasantly surprised you? As in you underestimated her and she ended up having more depth, character and intelligence than you initially surmised?
Then, on the flip side, how many times have you met a woman, and she struck you as fundamentally decent when you first getting to know her, but at some point she demonstrated that you were giving her way too much credit and that she was not what you thought she was.
I can say the first scenario has pretty much never happened…and the second scenario doesn’t happen very much anymore either, mainly because I rarely assume a North American woman is decent. I am rarely wrong about that.
yeah, the 1st scenario has been true of several south american women i’ve met.
THIS!
Whoever coined the term “enjoy the decline” was on point
I always thought it was Aaron Clarey/Captain Capitalism.
This is so dark. Your nihilism is strong lately. Pretty bleak perspective, but very logical and considerable.
Ain’t no nihilism on here. Roosh is just stating the obvious and ain’t afraid to face the harsh reality of the modern Western World.
I think you’re mistaken. Nostalgia or a yearning for tradition is quite the opposite of nihilism.
I definitely understand the nostalgia aspect; reminiscing on a bygone era of social dynamics that have been tragically washed away by delusional and “progressive” ideals. All’s I’m saying is that your outlook here has a very “why bother” vibe to it. Like everything is shallow and pointless with regard to love, relationships, and the sexes. That’s what I’m getting out of it anyway.
In the manosphere, “nihilism” is an ego preserving euphemism for “gives me bad feels.”
Isn’t everything shallow and pointless with regard to “love?”
If you treat women as disposable, you are not ‘yearning for tradition.’ Asking women directly if they ‘need’ men after gaming them is silly and honestly comes off as a little creepy to them. You can’t treat women as disposable and then bitch that they treat you the same way (unless you *want* them to be hurt?). A real man tries to find a woman on equal ground with him, not someone who is desperately dependent on him for survival because what kind of healthy relationship is that? PS Wishing suffering on children because of poor parenting is low as shit. Make up your mind, Roosh. Do you want to pump and dump all the time and then bitch and moan to the men who circle jerk to your “nostalgia” and “bravery” or become the sort of man that a woman feels like she actually needs?
And what if North American females openly reject attempts to build a relationship based on equality?
North American women want MONEY and MONEY ONLY! Qualities like honesty, integrity, equality, respect, support and mutual understanding do NOT matter any longer and are considered a weakness, a fault by all the modern North American females. Any independent, self respecting, honest male who dares to stand up and be counted, to lead by example and to have an OWN opinion is an automatic LOSER by North American standards!
Why do you people keep acting like a life without needing a job or another person to help you when you’re an old, broken-down geezer is so demonstrative?? We’ll all be there. We’ll all need someone there to clean up after us because we’re too old and weak to make it to the toilet. We’ll all get to the point where going to a job is physically impossible. And it is so wrong of to require that person be our children. Men and women need each other eventually. I will care what excuses you idiots come up to fight against that simple truth.
I was thinking this sort of stuff years ago. The trials will always end up outweighing the prize. You can’t outdance the level of entropy generated by the female herdmind. It’s an unstoppable unthinking or rather unconscious bullshit machine. Women control virtual reality, they always have another level of shit to throw out, shit made from the grist of male suffering and societal destruction.
Dead On….great article
Women eventually need a man after the wall hits and they have little remaining value. That’s when they begin to ask “where have all the good men gone.”
Even this trend is changing right now. Only a few women now wonder where all the good men have gone. An overwhelming majority of North American females pretend they never hit the wall and keep acting as if they were 20 years old when they hit 40 or even 50.
And why should they change when they have an endless line up of sex hungry and desperate males roaming the street of any city or town in North America and willing to do anything in order to get access to that elusive pussy?
Post-wall women can think they never crossed The Wall that is the Rubicon river of attractiveness all they want – but they cannot deny reality. Being an older, single, post-wall woman is a very lonely life. Sure they can get sex, but who with? As time advances, the type of men that they want to bang with goes down, and hard, and then fast – Very few women can age gracefully. No matter how accomplished, woman are still viciously judged on looks, whereas men are judged on achievement which gets better and more pronounced with time, which women of all ages find very attractive (I speak from experience with my own success with younger women that I consider very much out of my league). What kind of man wants to have a relationship with a post-wall woman? Men that they were used to getting are NOT interested in women their own age – they want the pretty 20-25 year old (or at least under 30), and they can get them. Even average-looking, older American guys can go foreign and get a much younger, nice, decent, pretty women that thinks their the greatest thing. Do these post-wall women have this option? I suppose it’s fine if all they want is sex, but what kind of life is that? – Without any true companionship, without connecting with another human being ever again? It’s still a Mans’ World in my opinion. Don’t be so pessimistic if your a man – Think about it.
Just go on OKcupid.com – I’m astonished at the number of over 40, even over 30 women who are still single, no kids, and most clearly being post-wall. I live in the DC area and this phenomena is very common. My advice to young pretty women is to lock down a man for marriage when they are young, preferably before 25. But most will not take this advice, and they act surprised when they are 30, still single, post-Wall, and cannot find a Man that they like. These women just assumed their appeal would last forever and never end, but it’s really based on their looks, Not their personality, career achievement – It’s brutal. They enjoyed their years of easy banging with all of the attractive guys they wanted, and then one day, these women become invisible to these desirable type of men.
I’m with you on this one about POF or OKCupid dating sites.
But I still say that ANY woman in North America can easily get whatever she wants and whoever she wants just by placing an online ad. She’ll always get a line up of desperate and sex hungry males willing and ready to cater to any of her demands and requirements in a vain hope to get access to that elusive female pussy.
Media, cell phones and cosmetics sure can cloud reality for them.
ur hypothesis is wrong. I am 45 years of age, of European descent and I feel uncomfortable when those groups of Grade 12high school students keep on staring and cat calling me at the bus stop. The Toronto police should arrest those young potential rapists and prosecute them as adults.
Your living in a fantasy world, no one is looking at you. If they are? They’re talking about you schizophrenic behavior.
Awww, your hurt little “feelings”. Suck it up and quit being so weak. You’re an empowered, strong, independent woman, right? NOT.
Yup. And they show up with their disheveled, stretched, flat-tire vaginas carrying the DNA remnants of 50 different dudes and a host of lies about how she’s only been with 1 guy. They’re so predictable.
We’ll be sunning it up in the Cayman Islands and wondering where all the good women were, LOL.
Truth hurts, and this truth hurts more than others. You can notice how men are nothing more than clown at a bar where every guys takes approaching and talking to girls so seriously, while to women it is really a clown show.
Roosh,
Of course they see use as a toy. You’re in a nightclub where the tacit implication is everyone seeks sex. Naturally, women don’t need to convey anything special, or noticeable personality. There’s maybe 10 guys who would go with every girl there — no problem. Allow me to borrow an analogy from one of your narratives (involving the Philippines.) And for the sake of argument, the examples below are of average attraction, and at the age of 25.
American Women in the United States seeking men (10:1)
American Men in the Philippines seeking women (10:1)
In both scenarios, each party are treated so well by the one they’re attracted to, that the need for personality, charisma, and charm is non-existent. So you can basically “leech” off the free attention of others, raise your ego, and be excruciatingly selective.
If you sought women in other circumstances, you may change your perspective on this culture. Do you think your mother met your father in a dingy nightclub smelling of cigarettes, and cheap beer?
Probably not.
This is the good old “if you only met a girl at the library” fallacy. While nightclubs are bad bet bets for LTRs, they’re especially bad bets for women (because men who want LTRs are usually Betas who will be too intimidated to approach amid all the clangor and competition) – not bad bets for men.
Firstly, most women go to nightclubs (or attention whore on online dating sites) regardless of their profession or other circumstances. But for the sake of argument, let’s assume that there is one that doesn’t. Do you truly believe that she is going to be any less attracted to game and dominance in high amounts (again, whose only providers are Alphas)? Her attraction is stoked by exactly the same things, only they seem a bit more classy because they’re “artsy” and whatnot. Sure, there is a chance, but it is a weak correlation at best. Equating women who don’t go clubbing with “good girls” is shortsighted at best and reeks of the Madonna-Whore complex at worst.
Note that I’m not claiming that there are no good women, I’m just pointing out that it’s foolish to think that a woman is somehow of high quality just because you met her outside a club. That might have been valid 40 years ago, but today we’re too far gone for it to be a reliable bet.
I want to believe the opposite and this is my counter argument:
Every man watches porn. Every single man is turned on by porn.
When I was a teenager back in the 90s we didn’t have broadband internet, so you’d look up the half nude girls on Page 3 and such and when you could muster the courage, you’d buy a porn mag and endure the laughs from the staff. Oh man, that first porn magazine, I can remember it in graphic detail 15 years on.
Then along the way came internet porn and more and more extreme porn. The porn that was perfectly adequate in the 90s now wouldn’t give much of a boner (for the porn addict).
Isn’t it the same for the club slut? The more she gets exposed to fist pumping steroid using bros, to smooth talking club promoters, to jetset millionaires, to male models, the less excitement she is going to find in a regular confident guy.
Exposure matters. A girl who doesn’t go to clubs won’t have the same exposure to fleeting male attention and will need less alpha stimulation to get the same feelings.
Roosh I think you’re missing a valuable piece. The “Magic Switch”. 90% of all women have what I call a magic button and it’s not between her legs. It’s a switch that turns off everything they have been taught from birth and leaves them completely vulnerable. The downside to this “Magic Button” is that it takes masterful skill, planning and a lot of work to flip it which most men either aren’t capable of or don’t care to spend the time or effort.
What is this switch based on you ask? Like men women are born with raw natural instinct. A mans instinct is to hunt, gather and protect. A woman’s instinct is to nurture, be wanted and love and be loved. Women’s lib and society has taken a woman’s raw instinct and covered it over with many layers, which are almost impenetrable. I say “almost” because there is the “Magic Switch”.
90% of all women can be completely OWNED by one man that knows how to flip her personal switch. What do I mean by owned? I mean that she will always see you as the only man for her. No matter whom you’re with or whom she is with, no matter where you live, no matter how much time passes. You could be out of each other’s lives for 7 years. She could even be married with kids and call her out of the blue and say, “drop everything I want you”, and she would make it happen.
Like I said 90% of all women have this switch but what flips it is different for each one. The bigger question is, are there any girls out there that are worth the effort and if they are will one be enough to keep you happy?
Mr. Anomy
Rather than a clown, I feel more like the dancing organ-grinder monkey, that’s being led on a leash by the clown.
Roosh-
I will work with some woman who had kids by one guy and who is, her 2 kids are, her mom is, supported solely by her second husband. She does not work-she starts in June
I had her tell me point blank that she doesn’t need a man. The cognitive dissonance is simply uncharitable.
See:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2595538/The-sixty-somethings-look-half-age-back.html
Another article showing some wish-full, delusional thinking by post-wall women, fortunately some are married. Langdon could easily be mistaken for a old trannie.
Christie Brinkley at aged 60 is still attractive and definitely an outlier and not the norm. Unfortunately, she gives younger pretty women the false impression that they can do the same.
Young pretty women really need to lock down a good Man before they exit their Window (aged 15 – 29) and hit The Wall.
Ur stupid I am 45 years old and young Toronto men can’t keep their eyes off me but most of them are losers who can’t find a job because they are lazy and sexist. This is 2014 not 1894.
How man cats are you up to now?
I reckon your hovering around the low teens as we speak.
I highly doubt eligible Toronto men are eying up a 45 year old post Wall woman when hot 21 year old Asian girls are shopping on Younge Street.
45? You old fucking bag. How is that wall treating you? Better yet, how is your imagination treating you?
Join us, Roosh. MGTOW is waiting for every PUA who finally gets over his need for acceptance from women. Getting over than need is as simple as growing older. Ditch your little black book and your closet full of oh-so-carefully selected expensive suits, shirts and shoes and join us.
I’m not a PUA, but PUA is hardly about “getting acceptance”. It’s very much about men getting something they want, their way.
The MGTOW you speak of is a depressive sub-culture. I hope you realise this. Noticeably, half the webpages look like this: coloured text on a gloomy, pitch-black background (a subtle sign of depressed bloggers). That’s not even getting to the content.
Past an initial discovery of MGTOW ideas (which have some merit), that sub-culture harms people by keeping them depressed and fixated upon women.
BTW – Why have there been no assassinations of some of the worst feminist arseholes yet? I’m really surprised at this.
I’ve gotten to the point where I can predict what a “stock” American woman is going to say to interact with me. It really makes me have no reason to want to have a conversation with them. It’s a shame really. And this isn’t even just about women anymore either. America is just fucking divided in general and we’re really getting taken to the cleaners because no one really wants to come together and really solve issues.
Why do that when you can look at the next American idol or talk about the latest movie flick.
Spot on, Jason! I totally agree with everything you wrote on here!! Especially the ” American idol and movie flick ” part.
Since the Ukrainian crisis get ready for new stock of beautiful women coming our way. War does have its advantages.
Buddy, you sound like a huge chump who resents women because you can’t get them to play with your ding-dong.
The writer is a loser and obviously knows that he is jealous that Toronto women earn more money than men and we have bigger butts and breasts which is the envy of the world.
I agree. Women in to do have large butts and an ugly personality to match. Wen they smell the dirty ass of the niggers they lick, Mayb they will realize gud ol fashiond Mormon values triumph the free coke niggaman giv
I can only imagine how fat you are.
“bigger butts and breasts” is femslutspeak for “I’m a giant waddling lardass and this is how I spin words to avoid dealing with the reality of my 45 years on the planet and my impending irrelevance”.
You also “make more than $95k a year at 45” or so you brag. I was making that at 31. Step up your game, brogirl.
It’s as easy as breathing to get a modern woman to “play with your ding-dong”. It’s next to impossible to keep them around for any length of time. Did you read the article?
Hmmmm … ironic that you have no clue what is wrong. Even if told it would bounce off as some peoples head is too hard and stubborn to see that their stink isn’t something someone is willing to stick around for.
So ironinc … I am dating a man that wanting to play ding aling on the the first date. Want to talk a line of crap woman hate. I listenened, I was nice, we played ding aling … have been playing ding aling but I truly am not interested in him except for his recreational value cause he has no other value other than hating women. Anyway … time is about up because I am tired of his ugly thinking and hate towards women … and guess what … he thinks he loves me because I have shown him nothing but kindness and respect. He dug his own grave with his hate, his arrogance, and his mouth … he is not a pleasant person he is an abusive bulling creation that would be a misery to live with. He wants to marry … not thanks, he has recreational value only and even that is getting old as he is not a good person despite his high thinking of himself. We did what he wanted, I followed his lead, we ding donged, he just isn’t a person that gives a crap about anyone but himself so … time is winding down … he is going to be pissed and hateful when I leave. However I have found the best game to play is to become just the opposite as I have been so that then he feels it is a blessing we are ending it, he will call me a crazy bitch, that way it looks like he has won or escaped versus being dumped. As I told him … I’ve dated fat men, skinny men, ugly men, handsome men, fit men, younger men and older men, rich men, unemployed men … the only thing I am searching for is someone who won’t make my life miserable and who treats me how they want to be treated and is worthy of me following their lead — you want to ding dong on the first date … you are not worthy … but we can ding dong, bang, bang and enjoy the recreations for 2-4 months, after that it isn’t worth the time, money or effort dealing with someone who you know isn’t all that good of a person.
Having healthy children is the greatest happiness in the whole fuckin’ Universe.
I have had countless experiences that brought me happiness and I always remember them, but having children, my friends, is the meaning of life.
THE MEANING OF LIFE
This is more important than banging 100 girls or having two girls suck your dick in a drug party or winning a street fight with your superior fighting skills or kicking everyone’s ass at whatever you are good at.
That’s not what these highly impressionable dumb broads learn in useless majors, all of this is is result of them not liking Math.
Men respond to the market. Well said
Roosh, you hit it out of the park with this one. Thank you for your honesty. Feminine “virtues” are what we find lacking. This is what I see you fundamentally highlighting. Unfortunate for us, women have herd mentalities. Question: where can we find herds that promote feminine “virtues”- aside from the Manosphere? Shit man, I tried the religious route and found myself in the mist of another enemy to feminine “virtue”; Puritanism. Roosh, we can’t get sucked into their fucked up frames; we are not clowns, even if they perceive us as such. We are Men. Remember, Virtue actually means Manliness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtus_(virtue)
We can’t expect women to be virtuous.
You losers deserve to have lost ur misogynist manufacturing jobs in the recession. The tables have turned and you men deserve to be quote oppressed unquote.
Idiot can’t even use BBcode properly.
You’re the Filth that God created.
What have women produced? Not much.
It’s not progress to mess with nature and biology. Both sexes need each other, otherwise we wouldn’t have two sexes! All this bullshit feminist, I don’t need a man crap is for control. It enslaves us… anyone that can’t see that is full of it and needs to wake up.
When society collapses, and men run in gangs with submachine guns, shooting and destroying, when women are running in the streets in terror of having their brains splattered on the pavement or being hacked into pieces…that is when women will again remember why they need men.
I don’t want any of this but it’s going to happen, as inexorable as the ocean tide. War, violence, and death are what women have no answer for.
Well, they do have answer. It’s to blame men.
The enemies will be raping them; the men that “loved” them will be raping their enemy’s women. Whenever a lawless state comes, men start systematically raping women (and many children).
Women already have the answer, they know most men act like psychopathic torturers when they are free to and that the best they can so is to make everything in their power to make it never happen and maybe one day abolish war altogether. Now men have to stop being that war hungry…
Typical, dumb, feminist psycho remark. Lump ALL men into a group and say that we’re all responsible for rape, murder, and war. You dumb b!tches keep singing the same tune over decade. It’s getting old.
Very True, and most of the women nowadays are Worthless.
you are doing the same you idiot
With so much makeup that these women put on nowadays makes them real Clowns altogether.
Rubbish. Not very bright, are you dear?
You know, it’s interesting… I live in the DC area (Alexandria), my friends and I all have grad school educations, and every one of us wants a husband and a family we can love and take care of. I myself am married and expecting a child, and I adore my husband. He’s my rock and I couldn’t live without him. He makes me a better person (and I hope I do the same for him).
I think this is a narrative you’ve invented for yourself and you’re so far into it that you can’t see beyond it– that the majority of us want to come home every night to someone we genuinely like. There’s something to be said for that partnership, that trust. If it’s not for you, great, but what’s with the sweeping generalizations?
You know how many women have said that same thing you just did, only to draw up a profile on AshleyMadison.com a few months later? My ex wife was head over heels, make you sick to her stomach in love with me and it took one year of marriage for her to get bored and want to move on. And no, I don’t say this cause I’m still hung up and bitter about it, I hear stories like this every day. Exceptions to the rule exist but the rule still stands.
You’re neither seeing nor understanding the bigger picture of the things we discuss here.
They do need men, they need alimony and community property once they divorce a man.
… alimony and community property that most women don’t ever ask for.
Alimony should be abolished.
this is the most depressing shit ive ever read. years spent as beta have groomed me to desire the opposite, but the facts are this is stone fuckin cold truth. what a shame
Depressing state of affairs but sadly true. I’ve taken the red pill a while back and while I’m not totally against relationships with women as I am in one now; I know she will likely get bored sooner than later and want to move on. All relationships are temporary. Pre wall women are constantly fighting her hypergamy to stay with the man she’s with.
The clock is ticking on all of us….
Women are just not worth the effort, for the most part anymore. It would seem in this age of no-fault divorce and increasing standards of attraction (I.e. DEMANDS) on the part of women, the only recourse for a guy who doesn’t want to get bound and divorce raped by some fattening cow is to divest himself of all “positive” mating traits, become a total psychopath and reap the rewards as swarms of insecure, pathetic women flock to you.
Sad, but true.
Seeing your reply and my original comment, I realize I meant to put: “…swarms of insecure, pathetic women TEMPORARILY flocking to oneself.”
Even if you’re getting easy pussy by being an uncaring loveable asshole, it’s only temporary.
Amen. The one highly desirable thing women brought to the table aside from sex was companionship. They can’t even do that anymore.
LOL. I’m already a psychopath but it doesn’t help much.
I’ve been saying this for the last couple years. All the dudes I know in tdot that just don’t give a shit about their careers and don’t mind leeching off other people get all the action with girls. They perform for them but provide nothing of lastig value. The middle class dudes who work hard to stay out of debt and take care of themselves get treated like rapists. The girls bounce from one performer to the other… And the performers who think their little princess loves them end up with nothing to show for it when they get replaced by a new act. I’m saying fuck it and just focusing on self improvement. I’ve already seen a couple of these career bitches wake up and realize the wall is coming
***get treated like rapists or get roped into provider role when the girl gets older***
You have committed the ultimate folly of asking a woman what she wants! Of course she will never tell you the truth! Women are masters in creating artificial demand for themselves, this prevents them from saying yes to your question (which is totally needy behavior in itself), DO NOT not fall for it! She wants and needs a man even more than a man wants and needs a woman. Remember, it’s a man’s world. Men can do well by themselves, women cannot. Women need a man for accompaniment, they need a man be there to take care of stuff and they need regular dicking. I know a bunch of women who are desperate for man, but can’t find him. Men are DEFINITELY not clowns, only those who are made to think they are, are. Men rule.
Actually, women live way better without men than vice-versa. Women connect much better with one another than men do with one another and they usually get all of their emotional needs met by connecting with their mothers, sisters and girl friends or book groups and so on, they can take care of most stuff or pay for someone to do it for them and for dicking… nothing a vibrator or dildo can’t do.
Saying men rule won’t prove a thing. A small minority of men ruled by oppressing, killing, not giving rights and weakening others – only like that they can be stronger, by putting others (including other men) down. That is not strength, that is the biggest cowardice and weakness one can have.
Advocating for lesbianism? What a surprise from a feminist.
Rubbish. Men invented 99% of everything.
No way. Even pop culture reflects that you’re wrong!! Look at every boyfriend or husband on prime time TV–even the cartoons and…and…hmm. Well, uh, never mind. I’ll be over hear playing Call of Duty on my PS4.
I’ve read this post many many times and it is, in my opinion, the best manosphere article ever written.
All you said is true, fantastic article
Women are huge assholes
Well Most of them certainly are these days, that is for sure.
The writer of this article sounds like a woman, in that he is over-dramatizing things. Most women still like to have a family and allegedly (according to studies) have less than six sexual partners in their lives. So it’s like you describe the one half of reality and not the other.
Where is your Nobel Prize?
BOOOM Goes The Dynamite.
Take THAT FemiNazi’s!
Though… men have all-ways known… real men…
Play On Playa. ” )
Keep up the Right Fight.
Men = positive Yang creators
Women = negative Yin destroyers
OH! And pretty much agree with the other commentators and their witty remarks and realizations coupled with personal experiences… but I DID NOT read them all!
I will perform like the good clown I am so that she is entertained enough to have sex with me.
You sound like a sexist A-hole who’s been dumped a few times. If men are clowns, then women are objects. Or we’re all just people. Get over it, dude.
sounds like YOU got your little butt hurt. Thinking YOU need to do your crying somewhere else.
Wahhhhh so sexist!!!!! Shut the fuck up.
Why do you hate women so much? I don’t understand. I treat men with respect and don’t see them as clowns. This is so full of hate :/
he’s some ugly dude that nobody wants to fuck, plus he’s a sexist pig who thinks that women should submit to men and please them if not they are sluts or bad women, aww poor thing.
Men DON’T need Women, Women DON’T need Men, we don’t need each other for anything else than reproduction.
In today’s world men already invented the things that liberated us from the parasitic housewife, we invented the washing machine, the dishwasher, the toaster, the microwavable meals, and so on.
We don’t need women, and women don’t need us, very soon for reproduction too thanks to artificial wombs and sperm banks, why bother with each other?
I see where you’re coming from, but this is all a big fantasy today. As history records, when women gain power over men in huge numbers like in Greece and Rome, they bring about the end of that civilization. Our society is really on the thinnest ice possible right now. When we collapse, those women and children won’t have the protection the government anymore. They’ll need us again. BUT, because they are so far removed from their traditional roles and duties as women… we will be having to do all of the work, making us weaker, because we’ll be having to piggy-back some retarded, useless bitch the whole time.
women had power over men in rome???hahahaa
Well most of the women out there today just stink, and are very stuck up too.
Of course they are stuck up. It’s called self-righteousness, and it leads only one way (not up!).
And You’re very Pathetic as well unfortunately.
Please please PLEASE don’t talk shit about birth control. It’s a good idea for all of us. Stop talking like it isn’t one of the greatest things that our species has come up with. Right up there with internet, indoor plumbing, and safety procedures.
Sleeping around isn’t as big a deal as being a corporate wage slave. Wage slavery is a much bigger problem.
“Whatever natural connection that once existed between the sexes has now been severed.”
Traditional cultures existed because of the scarcity of resources. In biblical times, women were seen as property and of economic value, especially kings who would allow their military leaders and soldiers to have the women of the lands they invaded.
The natural connection you’re speaking of will come back when men and women stop expecting to have happiness from a traditional perspective. Your conclusory paragraphs are indicative of someone who just wants to fuck and be happy.
Well, everyone should consider fucking and being happy. It’s pretty damn simple. We have birth control for it.
I’m pretty sure this attitude “For the next girl I meet, I’m not going to ask her if she needs a man, because I know she doesn’t. Instead I will simply ask her if she wants a man, and if the answer leans yes, I will perform like the good clown I am so that she is entertained enough to have sex with me. Either she or I will eventually get bored and the relationship will end. Then I will simply repeat my performance on a someone new, because I’m a skilled clown, and that’s exactly what women today want.” is not a new one… pretty sure it’s basically been the dominating one among men. And now we are blaming women for that attitude? Don’t worry guys if things keep going the way they have you may never actually have to be accountable for anything you do 🙂
In your mind does accountability = being an entertainment clown?
What he’s talking about is a real phenomenon, although the author might fair to point out that often times both sides are being clowns for the other. Date face I’ve always called it.
Is that much different than women having to be unnatural versions of themselves for men to ever pay attention to them? The effort they put into their looks is also ridiculous, as men should be attracted to “natural” women and not some dolled-up, fake version of them. Men expect women to be entertaining (eye-candy in a superficial way) and fake way more than vice-versa. Most women In North America just want a confident personality and some sense of humor.
I’d agree that both sides put on a ‘date face’ and game for both sexes is sometimes initially more important than other attributes. I’m not sure if men or women have it ‘worse’, I’ve watched both my sons and daughters date as young adults and find both have challenges.
Confidence and sense of humor are certainly attributes that make both sexes more desirable.
I think you’re confusing men with women. Women are never held accountable. That’s why we’re in the crap we’re in now. You women need a good proverbial spanking!
Guess what guys go out there and already do exactly what you say you are going to do… and all you’ve done is maybe break some guy code bc you are doing it from a place of anger which kind of builds the argument that the one’s who have been doing exactly that since high school were and are still doing it from a place of anger. Guys that go out there with a mindset of “well i’ll just be interesting so I can get you to sleep with me, but this is ultimately going to go nowhere” are clearly coming from a place of anger. And then to add insult to injury it’s because guys know women so well and it’s actually what us women want. You’re talking about people’s daughters and sisters and to say women want to be discarded is outrageous. And to say women want to play the field alternatively to having a meaningful relationship with a man tells me you don’t want to be taken seriously.
I have daughters and new to this entire discussion, as skeptical and critical as I am of some feminist assertions I find I’m just as skeptical and critical of some of the generalizations I’m seeing. But you’re being silly if you don’t think this entire movement is born of a real grievance and a real inequity, some by law, some by culture norms, and some of confused gender motives.
I want my daughters to have meaningful relationships, meaning a partner in many significant areas of life. I want the same for my sons. I want neither disadvantaged by societal bias or government.
I don’t disagree with some of your criticisms, but do you see any of the truth these men are communicating?
“Anything required for a woman’s survival or pleasure can be easily achieved without her having to put forth commitment, sacrifice, or labor. She can shave her head, gain 50 pounds, and disfigure herself with tattoos yet still have many suitors to—at the minimum—have sex on demand. Her food and shelter will be provided by a state which has embarked on an extraordinary effort to compete with men for her devotion and loyalty.”
Men have to compete with the state for her devotion and loyalty? I’m pretty confident men don’t even compete with each other, let alone the state (LOL), for her devotion and loyalty.
Not sure that’s the point Kristen. The point of the paragraph you cited is not competition between men and the state, but the change a socialist state has on sexual economics. This goes to need. I don’t want to live in a society where women need a man to provide because she is not allowed to labor for her own wages and, thankfully, that wasn’t the author’s point in that paragraph.
Educated women who have their own money just don’t like self entitled losers! It’s pretty simple. The reason why 3rd world chicks are so easy is because their societies still tend to over value men and do not hold them to any behavioral standards. This means that, as long as she remains uneducated and unemployed, he gets to beat her, rape her, cheat on her, have babies with other women, not treat her with common decency…you name it! Western men are quite attractive to these women because they are still a step up from their men (at least that is what they think until they get married to them. The only time this is NOT true is when the man is old as fuck and just needs a warm body. And the woman obliges him because she will inherit all his crap when he inevitably dies before her).
Western women like for men to talk to them and engage at a deeper level than many are capable of. Luckily, we have a society of Beta men. They can be a bunch of pussies testosterone wise, but they can at least make a home with us, provide friendship, and forgo the urge to be lead by their dicks instead of their brains.
What is a decent man to you? And is a decent man the same as a decent women, are the standards the same?
LOL! Decent men have jobs consistently, are not intimidated by women with their own money and minds, and have some kind of inner strength, such that they do not need to degrade the women they are with to “feel like a man.” My own husband is a good example of this, but he is rare and grew up in a household full of women where education was valued. Standards for women and men are not the same, because men do not necessarily require that the woman always have a job, and women are usually attracted to – not intimidated by – men who are smart and have money. We do have a tendancy to lose respect for men who are consistently out of work, as these men become depressed babies for us to take care of.
You seem to believe that men have low self esteems and that men seek women to cure those self esteem issues. I seem to notice the opposite.
Regardless, decency is not relative, otherwise it is a meaningless barometer. Just as ethics can’t be relative, what use is an ethic that applies to one group or person, but not another? Men and woman may value different traits, but that is not an issue of decency. One gender is not inherently more decent that the other gender. Specifically, the goals for most men are not inherently less decent that the goals most women may have.
What do you mean by, degrading? Specifically what actions against or with a women are you referring?
Degrading might be the man snapping at the woman or telling her that she isn’t pretty anymore, to hide his shame over not having a job. He does not want her to feel TOO good about herself. Or if she is attractive and other men notice her, and he is not a confident man, he may ask her not to wear things that make her feel good about herself. This is VERY common when we date men with low self esteem.
Men often do not notice when they have self esteem issues, so I could see how you might be ignorant on this one 🙂
Also, I have said nothing about one gender being inherently more decent than the other. I specifically writing from the perspective of women and documenting the challenges we face when trying to be with a man like the one who wrote this article. I also defined what I meant by “decent” because you asked. You have incorrectly inferred that I was saying that women are more decent than men.
You could reverse the genders in your first paragraph and it would define many marriages I know. The male hatred and snark is strong in you, infantilizing and shaming meant throughout all your statements.
You’re perception that ‘most’ and ‘many’ males need self esteem boosts from women is wrong and unsubstantiated.
You might look at your own comments and see how many times you mention money, it’s telling as to what you feel about gender roles. Men are not born to be silent laborers for womankind.
What you might be missing is the necessity for a shift in social paradigms to a much more negotiated relationship, one with togetherness and separation not defined by the State or old societal norms. This is what I feel many of these men are reaching toward, not a search for self esteem, but a search for self empowerment. Despite the snarkiness and femhate in many of the articles, it appears to me a movement that is asking nothing of women, but rather that men negotiate better for what they value.
No, “infantalizing” a man would be me agreeing that women should pet them and treat them like children. I am saying the opposite – that we should expect them to be men. Also, this is not an “all men do this” scenario. I am clearly speaking about a specific segment of the population. If this does not include you, then you have nothing to worry about 🙂 Also, it is well documented that man often have issues processing their emotions and are more likely to lash out at the people closest to them. I will let you do your own research on this one.
There is no “snark” in my commentary. Just my own account of how I see the issue. The perceived “snark” may be coming from the demons in your own mind, or the impatience you may feel with having a woman disagree with you.
When I mention money, I am just stating a fact of life. Most modern women do not want a man to pay her way, despite what many men’s rights activists think. Not middle class and upperclass women, anyway. Lower class women have issues that may include “having a man pay for everything.” However, we DEFINITELY do not want to be stuck with a man who has no money or resources because it is so intimately tied to his sense of masculinity in relation to the woman he is with. If she also has no money, everything is all good. If she DOES have her own money and he doesn’t..Houston, we have a problem! The only time I have seen this NOT be a problem is if the woman and man make a conscious agreement for the woman to be the breadwinner and the man to take on the house duties.
I think if you read feminist articles (rather than “extreme” feminist articles) you might see that feminists are simply expecting equality. I think that modern women in first world countries have no problems with changing societal norms, as long as it does not include us being expected to invest a lot of time and energy into figuring out how to raise a boy into a man. And like it or not, life costs money. It’s why many women prefer the single life, rather than trying to be with a guy who has no resources, since most of us would also like to have kids. A guy with no money AND a child to feed is not attractive to those of us who are educated.
I am happy that the State has programs to help single mothers, because it is a growing population in North America, and an indication that, for whatever reason, the men that helped them produce these kids are no longer around to help care for them. I would say that women HAVE / ARE shifting our traditional roles, but that their are not enough men available who have made that shift with women. Luckily, we are seeing a rise in the male feminist!
You should be careful thinking people that disagree with you are threatened by your education, intelligence, or womanhood. That might be considered a false sense of self importance.
I’m well read on feminism and your view of it seems to mirror most of what I understand of the movement, including the death cult and call for socialism and the reduction of individual rights. You cannot say you for both equality and positive rights, they are opposing principles. Good luck keeping your cognitive dissidence at an equilibrium.
Just callin it like I see it! Later dude!
Typical. You don’t see how you’re setting the rules for your house.
Men are thrown out of the house when they lose their jobs, either because they’re upset by their failures or the women consider them useless. The same rules don’t apply to women. That is total BS. Your husband sounds like a typical mangina, who is so desperate for the opportunity to get in your panties, he’ll throw away his own wants, needs and desires, his own personal integrity just to follow your rules. BUT, women should be willing to do things HIS WAY as well, if you seriously want an equal relationship.
No, you sound like the typical modern feminist. You want to be able to have your cake, eat it and have everyone else’s cake too. It’s your way or the highway.
I bet if your husband said, “I need you to stop working for a while,” you would spit in his face. However, if you got fired and he threw you out for whining to him about it, you would spit in his face. Do you see how your BS hypocrisy works??
That’s why the patriarchy is a better system. It gives men and women purpose and focus. And it keeps bitches in line.
LOL! You sound like you have some serious mommy AND daddy issues! Luckily, many of us do not think in extremes like you do. And most educated women with money would prefer to be alone than to be in an EITHER patriarchal “system” OR matriarchal “system” because we CAN.
You sound like an insecure loser.
the guys confronted you about your bs, and instead of debating you go on to name-calling
you are thrash
Honey, I was speaking the TRUTH – not “name calling”. I suspect that you are also a loser.
3rd world chicks are hot .
You are devaluing “third-world” women. Your attitude leaves a lot to be desired, and it shows.
Nonsense. You want everything except accountability. Unfortunately that won’t get you anywhere.
Stuck Up women are everywhere nowadays. Really not that nice women to meet anymore for many of us men that are Seriously Looking.
This was on a woman’s OKCupid profile:
My self-summary
I desire what most women want ~ someone who makes me laugh and also feel safe, so basically a clown ninja. 😉
(But for real, I’m way more afraid of clowns than any ninja)
And for many of us men, most women today are a waste of Humanity.
I am a soft-natured, truly feminine woman who accepts and realizes that men and women need each other like yin-yang, and that we follow different roles in life, but I do not believe in putting total 100% dependency on a man just in case he is some sly sadistic narcissist that is out to prey on women and just use them, and just in case he is I can fend for myself. If I put total 100% dependency on a sadistic asshole like this then I am screwed. He could throw me out the house and deny our children. Women need to have some sort of independence for their own safety. We cant go around playing the damsel in distress role all the time so we can be rescued because there is a damn good chance we would end up needing rescuing from our rescuer.
If the modern women think men are clowns, they’re total Idiots all together.
I don’t blame the Feminatzies for this total degradation of the Alpha males. I blame the single mothers who are everywhere and raising little manganaes and white knights . Modern men are becoming very weak . American media brainwashed boys to think that they worthless with no women so …..Its pathetic really . Black guys are not like that tough . I have couple black male friends ,I could tell you they are strong Alpha males ,they don’t take crap from any women . I like them a lot . Are they Misogynist at times . Yes ,they are . So what ? Do I like it ? Yes I do . Why ? Because ,no one dares to challenge the modern women . She is become so arrogant and so self centered its unbelievable . The fact that women contribute almost nothing , I repeat NOTHING to science or inventing something useful ,hell they don’t even need to go to wars and risk they life’s .That’s how brainwashed men are .’ Men up ‘ they say . That’s pure Misandry if you ask me . No ,no You ‘Women up !’ and go to War in the front lines and start paying for dates and do some yard work and fix the roof . Fair is fair . Gender equality !
LOL spot on 🙂
God forbid if these women today had to struggle just like the women of the old days did, and years ago there was no such thing as a high maintenance woman since many women now want a man with Money.
I’m sorry this is dumb. I see what he’s talking about and how corporations could be behind this like it makes sense, But that isn’t all it. Women are just more educated now in general. its our choice to want more in life and we haven’t necessarily been “brainwashed to not want a man since a young age.” We grow up with the idea now that women should be achieving more and we should have bigger goals and yes work also. but work is part of life. You can’t be an a strong individual just sitting on your ass or staying at home. we are more individualized now and we like the independence. This just sounds like a very disappointed guy. sorry you guys are so butthurt about it as if it makes you uncomfortable about your position as a man. guys and their egos…
I do not look at men this way. I am the mother of a wonderful son, and I would never want him to be treated as a clown. He has a very nice Greek girlfriend. She is sweet and intelligent, and I love her.
I’ve known for a long time women are nothing more than worthless whores & pigs who have no problem killing their own children in their own wombs. Trusting women have become impossible, in every sense of the word. Trust me when I say karma has the final say, the female gender is self-destructing. Learn to sit back and enjoy the show.
Well many women nowadays just like Sleeping Around so much more than ever before.
Being a clown trying to appease women’s desire for entertainment is beta male behaviour.
Leadership! 🙂 You are the George Washington of this message board .
Why do you need a girlfriend for public image? Screw public image!
Wow. lol this is why women are treating men like clothes. Because of people like the author. Apparently all he wants from the girl is sex because he assumes that she only wants to be entertained. Sad world we live in.
This article saddens me so much…It is not true (at least for me!) I’m in my 30’s now living in the US, from the US, and have yet to meet a man here in the US who wasn’t like this type of modern woman you described. Men who are always looking for the next best thing or too immature to initiate a meaningful conversation or connection. I would love to meet a grounded and sincere loyal man for marriage/soulmate because that’s the kind of woman I am and have yet to find it. All I seem to find are immature men, selfish and clueless about love- more interested in themselves than in “us” or the big picture. No one seems to believe in waiting for love anymore, but that’s how I am- I have no interest in hookups or flings. So, not every woman is like the woman you describe in this article! It is lonely holding oneself to a more honorable standard – I feel like I’m in a small percentage- but know will be worth it when I finally find a man who feels the way I do and I look forward to that day I find a man of equal integrity, and a “Strength of love”. Women need to feel independent, and strong, but they need to know what love looks like in order to find it- and sadly a lot of people don’t know what a healthy love looks like (therefore cannot recognize it, and so keep hooking up-a perpetual cycle of unhappiness.)
Have you got a sense of humour?
actually – women are much clingier than men these days… at least in Cali.
Yea.. I get where this writer is coming from. But, I went another way with it. For about 3 or 4 months I entertained women who wouldn’t even acknowledge me outside of what was socially accepted. They all started doing the exact opposite. I guess in a way I was acting like the author, a clown. I never showed anything but, happiness and the only emotional reaction I showed was laughing. Although, inside I was crying. They really liked that behavior.
But, I won’t generalize women because it worked. I just used that experience as a lesson learned about human behavior. To be honest; and it may seem like an over exaggeration but, acting like that for so long compared to just being myself was traumatizing emotionally. So, I have completely backed out of approaching the opposite sex, unless it’s business related or I am on some sort of personal mission (making them feel comfortable or think I care so things won’t be awkward for her).
I live in the US so, I am pretty much pressure free, aside from the occasional family inquiry of my relationship ideals. I like that guys are expected to make the first move. That way I know about 98% of the time, a female will not approach me unless she wants something. And if they do converse with me, I can just toss myself into the friend zone by exploiting (and satisfying) their need at the present moment.
To be honest, the only drawbacks are feeling a deep emptiness (unless I am doing something productive) and getting hit on by gay guys. Oh yea, I forgot to mention, I also have to mentally degrade myself around women I find attractive so I won’t do something stupid. Well stupid to me at least. Eh, could be worse.
I wish that we could bring back the women of the good old days because they were the Best compare to today.
I find it hard to believe that so many people prefer to grow old alone….. I don’t share the cynical opinion of this article. The search for the great love has not died for all women and I sure hope it hasn’t for all men.
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It is their mother’s fault how these women were raised today, very poorly.
This spot on. I live in Canada and all I see is girls getting with guys who play these phony clown roles.They never keep it up for long though and relationships always end. Also Canada has a birth rate problem … lol wtf?? Who ever heard of such a thing? You would think their biological clocks would eventually knock some sense into them. I think money has a lot to do with it as well. Its hard to get by these days and staying in a relationship eventually leads to costly commitments such as weddings, children, mortgages, joint bank accounts. People who don’t have money might look forward to the security that significant other brings while someone who has money or is capable of earning their own will only see a treat to their way of life.
Well said! And check out chemtrails. That’s what’s killing you slowly… not in 50 years, no… more like in 15 to 35…. if you’re young now.
sounds suspiciously like Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Look at me . . . Do I look like I can be a clown?
How could one not need a man???
Men are the most interesting, amazing mysterious beings. Their brains work differently, they have lives unlike a woman ( in that, I mean mine. Seeing as as a woman.) Their hormones cause them to act differently.
There is nothing so provocative – as discussion with a man one loves, or admires their intelligence or wit. Wherein could a woman find a way to inspire totally new ways of thinking or seeing, without doing years of Raja yoga or some such?
Viva la Difference!
My male friends are my dearest treasured source of joy and information. My closest male friend, worth more to me than gold. What I have, from the the love I give- will never rust. Thieves cannot plunder it. ” For there will your heart be also. ”
How dear, how sweet, how lovely it is to be female. To be feminine. When there are stout hearted men in the world.
You do realize sucling their dicks through your comments isn’t going to get you laid by an alpha, right? There is a such thing as a beta bitch and judging from your disqus, you are it. They don’t even respond to you. Pathetic. Grow some ovaries.
Do I actually sound like that? I was unaware. I was trying for just being really, truthful. And nice, really.
I want nothing, except knowledge.I am in no way, seeking male eros. I love someone, whom I respect beyond all others.
– Entertaining the idea even, is alien.
I find the idea of looking for male company on here wrong. Not just wrong but badly so.
I think it would be one of the worst, most disrespectful things a woman could do on here- would it not? Not just ignorant but lacking empathy to everything written here. By every man.
I do understand Men need their spaces.
As a woman-If at all entering one ( and respectful to even be allowed, men have their codes of honour) My best guess, the above would be one reason why men exclude women from them. It is not for me to know.
I do not expect responses, as I was trying to be nice. It is done without expectation, or it is not generosity but pandering.
I am only finding out about how women ARE, from from such as this. Really had no idea. ( I don’t know many, personally. Truth.) Ive a disability.
This is also why I have such a sympathy, this time and try to make some nice feelings, of caring.
I know exactly how it feels to be shunned, to be treated like a freak of nature, to be used, to be left behind in school, to have my rights taken from me. To be unloved. To lose all my possessions. To be afraid.
I don’t pity myself. A good man taught me that.
I owe that man.
But how would I feel, if I gave up- seeing this happen to a entire sex, not just the few and the freakish this time- mass hysteria.
And not cared? So to say what I said. I meant it.
So a apology for seeming to make a mockery of this site. It is entirely my fault. I hope that you will forgive me?
But, although your comment is rather unfortunate in showing that I am to know what I seem ,when posting- I thank you.
You see, you have done me a favour of showing me, how my misunderstanding of typical social expectations- is really a bad fit for posting here , unless I stick to concepts and ideas only. I was hoping to be another point of view, since it seems women have turned so terribly wrong. It was foolish.
I won’t do that again.
(Thanks again. Truly.
You see, men tell it to one straight. This is sensible.
If my father, a sensible common-sense man, had not done this for me, later in life- and now, it would hurt. Every day.
If my father had not taught me science, drilled into me, forced sometimes with stern caring – to not be total fool, I wouldn’t use this as another entry in my scientific trial on interaction with other people.
Scientists don’t cry when testing shows their theory wrong. They say, well that theory is definite rubbish. And make anther theory to test.
They don’t go cry about it. ( If one does, then obviously they don’t understand exactly what science IS.
“The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes.”
[–Sir Winston Churchill–]
“Fortune, seeing that she could not make fools wise, has made them lucky.”
[–Michel de Montaigne–]
These men on these sites hate all women, including you, their sympathizer, not just a particular flavor.
You would serve your scientific purposes better by interacting with men of substance. Not these little boys with mommy issues.
The opinions held on these sites is not of the majority. You are doing yourself and other women who were raised by good men a disservice by entertaining this bullshit.
I’m also having a hard time wrapping my head around why a woman of your intelligence is buying into this mentality. You work in a male dominated field where you more than likely have to work twice as hard to be heard or taken seriously. You know by experience more than most that these men are not facing any real adversity. It could be as simple as they aren’t getting what they believe they deserve because they act like a bunch of cry baby Kanye West’s at an award show because they were slighted by one woman who was a bitch.
This is not how women “are”……..There is no excuse for patronizing these hate sites as a woman. There are so many online communities….and this is what you choose to attempt to join? If they took you seriously for a millisecond, you’d eaten alive for being both a female and having a disability. Get the fuck off these sites and interact with other women. This is not ” how we are”…you know better, you ARE a woman!
Much more than half the women out there nowadays are very sad to begin with.
This is all sadly true.
Today’s men are not really men, they are weird, immature over grown frat boys who are obsessed with porn, sports and their BROS!!!
Nothing to offer between the ears, erectile dysfunction is starting WAY younger now and they all think they deserve some hot chick even though they all look like ish,
No ambition, no drive, NO BALLS, they just hide behind texts and computers.
They don’t know anything, forget knowing what they want.
Its SO SAD, tit was NOT like this 10 years ago.
You can’t make plans with them cuz they flake, you can’t ave a conversation with them cuz they are kinnda dumb, they can’t cook, don’t travel, know nothing about being healthy.
BUT they can list off stats of any sports player you ask.
Maybe even some porn stars names too boot.
Men have done this to themselves.
Rubbish.
Just too many low life loser women that are everywhere nowadays that have certainly caused this mess to begin with.
You may well be right; your discourse has the ring of truth in it. But God, you are a depressing SOB.
There is a distortion in the ying yang balance, we are now living in a corporate society where it is creating an environment where you have to do everything for yourself and whatever you can to fit in, this automatically creates negative side effect of not helping others, destroying the environment, the same goes for women and men when you disrupt the cycle of how they’ve breed for thousands of years it will create an imbalance, therefore creating negative side effects that the author hit a home run on
Hmmmm … men after WWII created their clown face … women adapted the the clown. Funny how men create problems then try to make the stink the woman’s fault. I’ve dated a lot of clown men who always has his eye wandering … men who have cheated on their wife and she kicked them to the curb … yes, men have become nothing more than clowns with cocks that they are so proud of.
As a young girl I watched my Dad cock around on my stay at home pregnant and barefoot mother. Hmmmm … 5 girls in the family … uhhhh … we learned a valuable lesson … don’t depend on a man he will just get you pregnant, chase other women with his cock haning out, and that stupid look of lust on his face … so we became independent women with pride and dignity who got an education to take care of ourself. It is truly a gift to tell a lusting cock to get the hell out versus deal with his ugly disrespect and stupidity. So lust away boys and blame your foolishness on women. Amazing how men can’t see their stink.
I’m dating a man now who thinks he can disrespect me, call me names and the such ….. hmmmmm … a man wouldn’t put up with this crap but can dish it out …. Yes I am done with him and working on leaving him …. has nothing to do with another shiny cock waiting as all you ill behaved men want to believe … and everything to do with the fact is most American men are no longer good guys … you are no more than a bunch of damn clowns who are vulgar.
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I think you are playing a losing game here. There are more options than provider or clown, but you will fail to meet any women who do not fit into your schema. Once you go immediately into dancing like a clown to earn her reward, you are dooming it to the limited few nights before she is bored. : I think you have cause and effect reversed.
My wife agrees with your skirt analogy, though pick up artists annoy her, she thinks they are not rare or novel, they are cheaply made and do not go with anything in her classy or comfortable wardrobe. She says the reason women like shopping is to find that perfect dress, that fits like it was made just for her, at an affordable price. There is too much cheap crap out there pretending to be stylish.
Everything sexual in modern society ultimately comes down to “game”. Because if you’re rich or “powerful” or successful, that doesn’t make a woman inherently sexually more attracted to you. It means you’re being “used”. Is Bill Gates the most attractive or “alpha” male, just because he managed to become one of the richest business owners on the planet? Will women inherently respect him and crave him and fantasize about him as a man because of this? Not in today’s culture. In today’s culture, sexual values have been artificially skewed to favor shallowness, falseness, and degeneracy. We live in an era of deception. “Values”, “truth”, “faith”, “passion”, “purpose”, will all become increasingly meaningless in time. The “alpha” competition of modern society is not the same “alpha” competition in prehistory – in prehistory it was foundational, the origins of classic “manhood”. Because while competitive inner selection was necessary to produce superior people for survival, those people also needed to have enough collaborative value to have collective strength. Collectivity has been humanity’s survival asset. False “alphas” of the fake, manipulative, charismatic, psychopathic variety would have destroyed our species from the getgo. They are not “natural” selection. They are a post-evolutionary mutation, a traitorous parasite to our species. And they are hierarchical. The psychopathic powers at the top, owning the world, like to promote lesser psychopaths because they are more likely to compete amongst each other rather than rise up and cast off the top. A world of psychopathy becomes a world of illusion. Lies become truth. Natural and spiritual evolution loses its path. Religion is just an allegory for these inherent existential truths.
Woman’s only fault is the fact they gave birth to dick heads such as yourselves. Perhaps coming out would help?
This is ridiculous. As a woman who just entered my 30s, has two BA degrees and 1 nearly 2 MAs but was unable to complete number two..I look much younger than am most people guess around 21, am told no ego very attractive, smart, loving. However I have a genetic disorder more than one I was born with and I cannot work and be the breadwinner, so yes I am beautiful, smart, funny, a great partner for relationship or marriage but my being unable to work and yes needing and wanting a good man puts me at a disadvantage in this day and age especially with younger men, if you can’t do it all you are to quote an ex a liability to my life if I can’t work it’s expected to do it all. So I feel like 1950s girl stuck in a strange land these days. Can’t work, need a man, no matter looks must be a gold digger…no I just can’t work but am just as smart, attractive and funny as ever was. So don’t lump us all together out there..in the way you treat women. The expectations about women you listed puts girls like me at a disadvantage.
Well you’re just one of very few women that are left that are old fashioned since in today’s world Hardly any are old fashioned at all unfortunately. This is the Real Reason why many of us Good men are still Single today because of all the Greed And Selfishness that these women have now since it is all about them. I always wanted a Good old fashioned woman since i am a Good old fashioned man that was raised very well by my parents when i was growing up which today Most of the women out there are Nothing like that at all. Women are really to Blame for many of us men still Not married today since we really have No Reason at all to Blame ourselves.
Long post here, sorry everyone.
I’m a 36 year old male with asperger syndrome, so I had to learn about social interaction since aspies are not born with innate social skills. 95% of my friends, colleagues and family are female. And I can tell you now, I have *never* encountered a woman who, when asked honestly, says women as a gender don’t need men. Nearly all of them will say that women need men just as much as men need women.
Women are human. Humans are social animals who are designed to rely on each other, and who frequently go off the rails in isolation. Women who claim they need men like fish need a bicycle are angry, hurting and possibly anti-social, just as men who claim they don’t need women are. It’s virtually an act of bravado for a man to say he doesn’t need a woman; it’s socially accepted and even expected for a woman to say she doesn’t need a man.
I have found that, among both genders, the people who most viciously proclaim they don’t need the opposite sex have been severely hurt, used, rejected. News flash: men are not the only ones who need sex, women are not the only ones who need romance, and NEITHER gender is less likely to hurt the other.
I know women who stalk, lie to get sex, cheat without regret, bully and harass. I am willing to bet at least half of female stalking incidents don’t get reported because, well, it’s not PC, is it? And everything tends to be blamed on men anyway – it’s always somehow our fault when a woman commits rape, murder or other types of high-profile crime, and that’s if the crime doesn’t turn into a media circus because she’s hot, which seems in many cases to engender sympathy with her so her sentence is reduced compared to a man’s in the same situation.
I recently quit a popular dating site because I became scared of two of the women I’d been talking to (at different times). The women who use online dating are a NIGHTMARE. They’re arrogant, egotistical, choosy, rude, disrespectful and in some cases plain dangerous, ESPECIALLY when they don’t get their way – I deleted my profile and cut all ties after what happened with a girl only a few days ago.
Yeah, I’m a man and I’m scared of some women; I’m an aspie remember, and aspies are smart enough to retreat from physical danger, whatever its source.
Now don’t get me wrong, generally women are warm, loving and considerate, and I would never go to another man for advice, as they deliver useless, sarcastic comments such as “Just shag her”. On the other hand, women are as imperfect as men. There are no angels in the world – we’re human. Some women are wonderful, some are terrifying, and the sooner we admit we were MADE for each other, and learn to somehow get along, the sooner our world will be a better place.
Why would I act something that is not totally my personality or character? Forget it is rather die single.
You know, its really interesting that men feel very similar to women in these regards, but either sex is either too ashamed or not self aware enough to admit this to the other for fear of beingseen as weak. I dont think either gender fits this paradigm, its just easier to soothe our wounds of feeling rejected by saying the system is rigged as opposed to saying we simply arent playing our catlrds right.
What you end up with is a mass collective of warped maladaptive defense mechanisms forming a cultural collective that is deemed to fail and evade our satisfaction. It doesnt take long to over ride a culture prexisting bias and make it as if it never existed..just think about how an average 20 year old views the concept of racism today as opposed to 20 years ago. It will take some serious work to turn that horse around, especially when it is easier to fuck, shop and overwork than it is to feel, especially in light of our compounded self loathing caused by these distraction. Good luck to all of you men out there capable of love, if you truely do exist.
Signed: A girl (not a fembot).
This topic was obviously written by a Stupid woman.
This is
a little simplistic for my liking. I am a man that generally agrees with most
of your points but I do not like the one sided arguments that you make. This is
subjective and not objective writing.
If a woman came to me and asked me if I need a woman I would say maybe, and
only sometimes. When I’m out with my friends or working or doing things for
myself, I do not need a woman around. However, I would say that it would be
very nice to have a woman around at some times, and isn’t that the same vice
versa? Does that make it a no?
The fact is, not only do women and men need each other less than before, but
they are also degenerate versions of women and men in the past. Men used to be
taught and brought up to be brave, to be somewhat aggressive, stand up for
themselves, defend their friends and family and to have a sense of duty and
morality. Women used to be brought up to serve (in a: it’s a pleasure to serve
way) others, help, love, be kind and faithful to their partners, as well as
provide alternative thoughts, encouragement and motivation for her partner.
But what about in 2015? Metrosexual guys who couldn’t find their
balls in a week of Sundays, fat, Playstation playing 26 year old puppies with
the courage of a mouse. They disrespect not only women but each other and
everyone around, they have little desire for achievement, and are often
arrogant and simply want to party and play all the time.
And of the women in 2015: extremely arrogant, feelings of
entitlement, huge expectations (that are often borne true as you mentioned) and
now, at least equality, if not superiority, to men in terms of jobs and
pay.
We cannot say that it is one or the other of the sexes that has
become less appealing. Both, as much as each other, have. This is because the
world we live is an environment in which such human beings, with such
characters, are the most likely outcome.
Instead of blaming the opposite sex we should be looking at the only 2
solutions to this problem:
1) Change of society.
2) Responsible parenting.
I assume you are American but you may have heard that a certain
Jeremy Corbyn has been elected as the leader of the labour (democrat) party in
the UK. His views and policies are far left, but also somewhat old fashioned.
He essentially wants to bring the UK back to the 70s (e.g separate train
carriages for men and women and lots of public ownership). It is a fact also,
that a much higher proportion of young people support this leader than any
other leader now or recently (I am included here).
Now this tells us that the current young generation and upcoming
generations have started to become saturated with today’s societal wrongs. They
no longer want to live in a world as it is now and want a significant change to
society. We should applaud and support these movements where we can, we should
call for changes to society at universities and at worldwide young people
protests. THAT is what is needed to change this.
2) Parenting responsibilities. This is only really possible if
society changes and the values that we see as favourable change towards the
conventional (e.g. as those in the 60s and 70s. and as those of traditional
humans).
However, we can still say that there is a large onus on parents
to take charge of the characters of their children. Inasmuch as possible,
parents ought to strive to incubate moral and traditional values into their
children, irrespective of what society may do outside of the house.
Parents should not separate, for children growing up with single mums will
inevitably lack awareness of the male sex (for example, boys growing up to
single mothers tend to be less masculine, more docile and generally much like
the stereotypical ‘modern man’. whereas girls in this situation tend to
struggle with understanding men, their intentions and desires.)
Thus the issue is not a simple issue of which sex is more wrong
than the other. It is both cynical and sexist to assume that one of our sexes
is somehow more responsible for the decay of society. It is society which is
responsible for its own decay. In general, simplifications of matters in
society tends to result in blunt conclusions, which I respectfully say you have
done here. After all, every one of us had an equal chance to be born male or
female. To suggest that one of the sexes is, has been or ever will be inferior
is to suggest that god plays dice. And we all know that Einstein said he doesn’t
:).
Today my “girlfriend” told me I had to be her “clown” and “entertainer”.
I really like women’s sincerity. If men have troubles with women it is just because they don’t listen to them. Your post is the requiem to men-women relationships.
Blah blah blah. Just reading this sexist article epitomizes why women see all men as clowns. You all have selfish, sexist bad attitudes. You think all kids are produced only by the women. You assume all women don’t work. You assume it’s not men’s fault women can’t make enough to survive even though it is men’s fault. You deny thousands of years of abuse and control. You don’t use birth control but presume women should. One sided drivel from sniveling man babies.
Most women of the 50’s and 60’s were so much more Better than today, that is for sure.
So essentially…the author feels that many young women are starting to act like…many young men have and do? Complete Autonomy and Selfishness? Maybe this is a new cultural trend or what the author has experienced but it certainly doesn’t define every woman. Regardless of our genders, if we are decent, loving people, we all just want a connection with someone. As a Woman, I don’t want a Man unless he is respectful, empathetic, and spiritually mature. As I strive to be the same. Otherwise, mainstream men are not worth my time as I am not a mainstream woman. I am a rare Woman, therefore the type of man I desire is even rarer. So I like cats, writing, and the occasional masturbation. Thank you for your time. 😀
Roosh, so wise and intelligent. I had never thought of myself as a clown. THat is true though =(. Well that is fantastic to know. Now I will stop being a clown for woman. Better to go without sex, than to selll my soul to get it :D.
Women are sexist. The clown observation is dead on, Roosh. The amount of prejudice women have towards men in social settings is ridiculous. Especially true in DC.
Even if you’re a 10 on the looks scale and have great game, you’re considered a player or an a*hole. You can’t even ask a girl who looks familiar if she was at the party you went to the other night, without her psycho friend going ballistic on you (happened to me last night; I just laughed and talked to other women nearby).
Portland, OR and the PNW are just as bad. Maybe worse than DC. The misandry is fierce in these parts.
we seem to be at each others throats, women, men, Jew, Serb, Australian……why is this so, its so sad,,,,, social engineering, positive discrimination, fascism….why have we turned against each other in this ‘civilization’? why have we allowed this shit to happen…who does it serve, come on people wise up and be human again, you only live twice !
and yes the Jew blaming is really lame….move on
Another Good reason why many of us Good men are still Single today.
Strange how there’s women who feel the same way looking for men. They want men like you and they are the traditional American women you want . One of you smart men need to help these women and find them traditional men and get them married. There has to be a dating service. That would really make the liberals mad. Then make lots of babies!!!
Most women today unfortunately are certainly Not like they used to be.
Well most of the women of today are very high maintenance, independent, selfish, spoiled, greedy, money hungry, picky, and narcissists. And they have the nerve to call us Good men clowns since their really such Losers too.
I won’t say much, but I do not think there’s anything wrong with a woman wanting a career and education for herself. I do not think there’s anything wrong with anyone seeking assistance from the government in times of needs, even politicians and the most powerful businessmen take resources from the government, when needed or wanted. But, since American culture only truly demonizes powerless individuals who cares about all of that.
In 2015, I would never tell any of my children, male, female, or otherwise that they need another individual to survive. People are much too unreliable. You can gather the skills, the education, ingenuity, and experience to attain a career and/or business on their own. Because, I think companionships can be wonderful, but when they go awry, they can ruin everything.
I know alot of comments and even the blog, speaks as if men are ideal creatures (SINCE THIS is a Blog for men), when they are not. Men have shown themselves to be abusive, philandering, emotionally-detached, materialistic, entitled, unreliable, and very poor with money, like all other humans are. What if a man decides he doesn’t want to be in a relationship, anymore. What if a man dies or becomes horrible injured, if he is not rich or has some type of inheritance, the woman is going to have to provide for herself and her family.
I don’t think a woman has need a man, or man has to need a woman. Can’t two people just simply want each other and spend their lives, together. I don’t think needing someone strengths a relationship, necessarily. Just because I need a man, that’s not going to make my relationship with a man better. That just means I have rely upon him more and accept his transgressions, more readily. I don’t think that is healthy situation.
Men are only clowns, when they present themselves as such. That is you projecting a label onto yourself (selves). Isn’t that what you would call self-fulfilling prophecy. Moreover, you said:
Women don’t seek out comfort or stability in men anymore—they seek entertainment. They seek distraction. They seek hedonistic pleasure. This is why provider men (beta males) are so hopelessly failing today to secure the commitment of beautiful women in their prime,
Don’t men often do the same thing? Have done it for centuries. Why is it bad if woman does the same thing?
The very sad thing is that many of these women today want the Best and will Never settle for Less which really would Explain why many of us Good men are still Single today and Not by choice. Quite a Change in the women of today Unfortunately compared to the Good old fashioned women of years ago which Most of them were Nothing at all like the women of today are.
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2009/08/people-who-claim-that-women-dont-like-them/22830/
I could replace the noun ‘woman’ with ‘man’ and it all ends up the same way. I loved your piece. Sad as it is.
Maybe you’re just going after girls that are all wrong for you. Or your not attempting to engage them in any kind of serious brain stimulating discussion that would lead to a deeper relationship in which a woman would actually feel that you were a necessary component to her life. I’ll tell you one thing right now, the one bachelor trying to show me the most interest acts the most bizarre and the most flakey and our relationship is at a stand still because of it. I just cannot take him seriously and it sucks because I like him but his behavior just puts me off.
Uhm… wow…
How is this anything different than victimising men and generalising women as evil culprits? You could write the same text exactly with reversed sexes, which kind of itself is a proof of its absurdity.
I really don’t know where to start… this text and this website in general are just so extremly absurd.
I mean, wanting to have sex and optionally be loved ist one thing – that is completly understandable. And trying to manipulate people into doing that might be questionable, but we all do that in some way or another, more or less. So that’s also kinda overlookable. But common, basing those things on pseudoscientific cultural-psychological explanations?? And selling those personal point of views as truths?
How can you condemn women to be so superficial and materialistic, if you yourself generalize and reduce them to entertainment-seeking consumers? How can you want to be perceived as an individual, if you don’t treat others in the same manners?
You know, in my experience people see what they want to see and what they have already convinced themselves to believe… So it’s really not a wonder that you report of sex encounters that are only interested in what you think they are.
I would truly be interested in a response from anyone. I would really like to know if you believe all this that is written here…
Ha ha, brill!
yep, especially men like you lmao
And many of us men do agree that many women today are such Losers too.
The real Good old fashioned women were the Greatest of all compared to now, that is for sure. It is just too bad that their all gone today.
Oh… My…. I rarely post on blogs like these, but I felt pushed to. I am a woman, and I never felt like I needed a man. I was too excited about my own future (which isn’t a bad thing.) Men would try to court me, impress me, buy me things, but you’re right, it didn’t really mean anything. It never really felt authentic to me. They tried to swoon me into being with them, before they even knew who I was as a person.
If somebody came up to you, clearly thought you looked attractive, and wanted to buy you dinner, take you on a fancy date, etc. etc., you’d like that, right? But what if several others were doing the same thing? This is what I would call “shiny item syndrome.” You’re just “trying things on”. You’re being courted and you like it. But that’s as far as it goes most of the time, right?
Now, what if you met somebody and you had a really good conversation, say at a coffee shop. Everybody is sober. You start to get into some really cool topics. You feel emotionally connected. You begin to form a bond. But, you don’t put pressure on this relationship. You let it unfold organically. Maybe you don’t see that person for a few weeks. Maybe you just text here and there. There isn’t really any romanticism because you’re not quite there, you haven’t figured each other out. You don’t KNOW them well enough, but you do know that you really enjoy their conversation and company. You begin to hang out casually. You begin to form a really strong friendship. You sincerely LIKE each other. You support each other’s dreams, goals and aspirations. You emotionally confide in each other. If you met somebody like this, would you get “shiny item syndrome”?
It’s highly unlikely.
We don’t NEED a man. But what we ALL need, men and women, at our deepest core, is CONNECTION. We need to be loved and feel loved. It’s ingrained into our DNA. We don’t NEED to be courted, swooned, and have empty sex. What we NEED, what all of us NEEDS, at a very deep level, is to be understood, appreciated, celebrated, comforted, and safe. When you focus on THESE intentions, making a woman feel these emotions in a way that is absolutely genuine (and if you love her, you should naturally be able to supply these emotions to her,) she will not have “shiny item syndrome.” And you know what? She will repay the favor. She will make you feel understood, and loved, and appreciated, and cared for. You won’t just have sex anymore. You’ll be making love, and strengthening a deep and much-needed connection with one another.
To say that this is lost is false. It’s not lost, but we ARE more protected. We’re afraid to be vulnerable, all of us. Maybe we’ve been hurt in the past, or have been dis-trusted. We connect more over a screen rather than face-to-face. I can speak from experience that as soon as I saw my relationship getting too raw and vulnerable, I wanted to back out immediately. I was scared to be vulnerable and fully authentic to somebody. And then we want to look for the next person, the next superficial thing. Because it’s easier not to fully open and commit to somebody. It’s easy just to have one-night-stands and flings. They don’t expose you (and we’re all very protected.) But once you’re open to connecting & meeting with somebody that makes you feel safe to express yourself, you will never, ever be seeking out the next best thing. Because you know are already full with all of the love and appreciation that you need.
“It’s hard to dispute the notion that a woman who believes she doesn’t need a man won’t make as good of a relationship partner as one who does.”
Maybe we make better partners. Guys want time & space to do their own things with their pals – it’s easier for us to give it to them when we’ve got something going on outside the house. I can’t turn into a frumpy, nagging housewife-type because my man would leave me. And he can’t turn into a fat video-game addict because I’d leave him. So for years we’ve been putting in the work to stay attractive to each other, in every sense.
In this day & age, when people have so many dating options, you have to be a really good partner to keep a quality partner. Which means working hard, keeping fit, and being good in bed. I really don’t see what’s so hard about it.
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Well that is certainly another Good reason why i really miss the Good old fashioned women that we once had years ago that were really so much better than today.
You cannot find those women in Western countries, you have to go to Asia or South America for that now.
Most women today are Real Losers anyway which really speaks for itself.
Most women today are completely unattractive and not even worthy of a pursuit anyway, you see women with men who can scare and make small babies cry these days. That is how horribly unattractive so many women are these days. Many people are up in arms about immigrants from third world countries coming into the US and Europe but the fact is that the birth rate in the US and Europe are below replacement levels, people are not having kids, and looking at your average female, most young men have no interest in having families anyway. That is why politicians are allowing people from high birth rate countries in South America, the Middle East, and Asia to come to the West because white birth rates are falling.
Then again we really have to feel very sorry for these women today which years ago many of them were Most likely dropped on their heads when they were born.
It is very sad that so many women over these years turned out to be such Losers just like the one that wrote this article.
Quite a Change in the women of today compared to the women of years ago that were so much Nicer and a hell of a lot Easier to meet. What in the world happened to the women of today? What a shame.
We’re all fuckboys now.
It is very Obvious why there are so many of us Good men that are still Single today which the women are really to Blame for that one.
Career Women totally Suck do to their Greed And Selfishness that they carry around with them Everywhere they go.
Obviously an article written by a male. There are no points of argument, just one, big, passive-aggressive misogynistic blobby rant. Too many undisclosed points of hate, probably derived from no longer being needed by the female sex. Poor baby, go cry in your soup.
And you’re a Loser as well.
First of all it is a real shame that a Retarded woman most likely started this topic to begin with which really makes her a real Pathetic Loser too.
Men in Western society are not being socialized to recognize, acknowledge or understand subtle issues of gender-differentiation, or even, androgyny. Competition is their steady diet. It’s too bad.
fizzziks,I’m black (and 5’9″) so while I enjoy the NBA,I CERTAINLY DON’T REGARD basketball as my part of “black authenticity,” which comes from starving cities of education funding,causing many young blacks believe their only way out is entertainment,including sports.Even brainy young blacks (and poor whites) without such educational-and familial support will fail to reach their potential,which can be gleaned in the “gangsta rap” and “dudebro” cultures which have dumbed down North America.
I KNEW THIS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER I SAD TO MY SELF FUCK IT AND IM DONE WITH WOMEN FOR A ABOUT 20 YR AGO FUCK THEM FUCK THE BITCH NAWALT BULLCRAP 95 ALL THE SAME
Women with tattoos are very Pathetic horrible looking creatures.
Frightening.
“Her interest in a man is not unlike her interest in a new television show or Apple product, and your only hope is to have sex with her as many times as possible until her attraction diminishes and she moves on to the next guy in line”. This is a perfect description of on-line dating.
Ridiculous.
Women and men have brains — They function equally at that level. Meaning every human being has the right to learn and work and enjoy culture.
Women are more delicate than men physically, and emotionally for this and biological/chemical reasons — so men and women do not function the same at emotional and physical levels. This will always b like this, so women will always appeciate good caring men.
I am sorry your reasoning is so poor, or that you write this crap just to get money, misleading so many men who read and believe this.
Developing oneself at an intellectual level doesn’t mean you are going to be a bad person seeing men as objects – actually, the more intelligent and knowledge-invested you are, the more you will appreciate and respect other human beings, including men – AND EXPECT THE SAME IN RETURN.
I am a delicate woman. I WANT a man in my life – but a good one. A smart one, a respectful one, and handsome for what my eyes consider handsome. Not settling for less or having the right to get to know different men so we can see how we get along, doesn’t make me a bad woman – actually I think it is the other way round.
If anything, today’s men have to work harder if they want to have a good woman by their side.
Do you really want women choosing you for your money? If I were a man, I would be ashamed of writing the kind o texts you write, for the big, clear conclusion one gets by reading this is: this man is resentful that the fact that today’s women can freely choose gives him his real (lower) value in society.
And one can easily grasp that by reading in your posts that, while you crave for ‘a saint woman at home’, you ‘give advise’ on how to bang them here and there. You don’t want love or smartness or good at any level, you don’t want honor. You just want things, and that is how you see women.
By the way, you describe us argentine women as not following men’s games, so suggest others to go to Brazil or Colombia where women are ‘easier’. And criticize us because of that. I am sure I speak on behalf of lots of women, argentine and non argentine, when I say that we proudly try to be the best we can and expect for good men or nothing.
I’m a traditional girl who wants those things, and tries very hard to get those things, and has for years, and doesn’t think of it like a game, and doesn’t put out. I think of it this way: you either enjoy and embrace the shallowness of what the world has to offer, or you’re absolutely miserable.
There is no one who values your time, your effort, the things you do to make yourself attractive, whatever. They value Hot n’ Now, and on the off-chance they don’t, they value a false sense a superiority. The latter transcends gender, and is a symptom of our generation, but also the generations before us. It’s a stubbornness mixed with a need to always be the dominant person in any small-talk conversation or casual relationship. We don’t have a set class system in America, but a class stock-market. Unfortunately, people have an inherent psychological need for the hierarchy we pretend to scoff at. So, people are always petty and on-edge about “winning” a conversation and becoming the vice president of the bagel appreciation club.
If there was no investment for me and it was all just a game, I could have done much better right now than single in my late twenties with no prospects. My life would be much more sensual and living and my attitude would be a lot more vain and commandeering. I suspect that men are attracted to the Modern Woman, or in actuality, the Modern Female Narcissist. I’m pretty, but I seem much less exciting, and I immediately fade into the background as a woman.
I have rarely read something more accurate, though I disagree with the defeatist conclusion.
This is about as true as it gets for many of us. I live in the Toronto region and I am fucking garbage to these women. I feel the sadness in this article. A brutal rude awakening. Very difficult to refute this.
I’m a woman, and I do not need a man because I am independent. I’m not living by the state, I have a job that pays great money. I MAKE my own money. A man or the stateam does not need to make money for me. Not every woman is dependent upon the state or their men. She can be dependent upon herself and herself alone. I will never degrade myself to depend upon anything or anyone else, especially a man or THE STATE. That’s quite sickening because what if there is no man to help me or a state to provide for me, how will I live? That’s why I need no one. I don’t need a man for protection (I can fight trust me) nor for money. The only reason I would want a man is for love not entertainment. I want a man to love me, not fuck me like some animal. Besides that, I do not need anything or anyone.
Well goody for you being very independent. What do you want a Medal for it? Not happening.
Is this serious??? I found this site because of an article about caffeine. I’m deeply disturbed by the content here. Human beings are complex. Why are people so obsessed with trying to ‘land’ another human being? What about spiritual growth? Is this what most men think about and are after? I can’t quite bring myself to believe it. Maybe if you went inwards and understood your true nature which is beyond that of a man trying to get his sexual needs met, you might have a better chance at intimately relating to other people.
I do agree that the emphasis on being ‘self-sufficient’ is quite high these days and I think it has been overblown in importance. However, that’s not what people truly want. Every single one of us is indeed looking for a true connection. Of course, many of us have triggers and emotional issues that can prevent us from connecting. Usually, we are shit scared of being taken for a ride and having our hearts broken. That’s pretty much the reason why people are going for superficial kicks. But is that fulfilling??
Well if us Good Men are clowns then what the hell are they? Oops can’t really say that.
Women Have Contributed Nothing To World Civilization And Culture
There has never been a matriarchal civilization or culture; there has never been a great female scientist, mathematician, artist, writer or composer. Why?
It is a very well-established fact that women have contributed absolutely nothing to world civilization and culture. According to the most recent research on gender differences in terms of world cultural and technological achievement, of all the major accomplishments that have contributed to the rise of modern Western culture, not even 0.1% were invented or discovered by women; as a matter of fact, of all the major contributions to human civilization and culture, not a single one has been made by a female, not even by a hermaphrodite. In the sciences, there have never been any great female biologists, chemists, physicists, or mathematicians. In the liberal arts and humanities, there has never been a single great female composer, artist, or writer. But what excuse does any woman have for this historical inability to create and manage an entire civilization or invent anything worthwhile? She cannot mention the feminist dogma of female oppression at the hands of an all-male patriarchy, because the vast majority of women have had far more privileges and wealth than the vast majority of men. Men have struggled against almost insurmountable odds, such as war and poverty, and have managed to achieve some of the world’s greatest scientific and literary accomplishments. On the other hand, for untold millennia, women have led lives of almost complete luxury, untold wealth, and a level of sensual pleasure that beguiled even the imagination and have still managed to contribute virtually nothing to the course of human civilization. What could possibly explain this tremendous gap in achievement between both genders? As the classical philosophers of ancient Greece and Rome observed, women are biologically and intellectually inferior to men; women are subhuman because they are defective in mind and weak in body; indeed, it would not be far off the mark to point out that the vast majority of women have always been borderline mentally retarded. If women have been the slaves of men throughout history, it is because of those forces of natural selection which have ensured a near-total female subordination to the firm hand of patriarchy.
This dearth of female accomplishment in both the arts and sciences also complements a wealth of ethnographic evidence, which strongly indicates that there has never been a civilization that was matriarchal or dominated by women. In all times and places, the human female has always occupied a subordinate role to the superior, more highly evolved male. This means that every civilization and culture that has ever existed has been patriarchal or male-dominated. By virtue of both her biological and intellectual inferiority, the woman has always been obliged by her superiors to perform some form of very simple household maintenance, including baby-making. Otherwise, for those women who happened to be much more fortunate than their sisters, they could be expected to prostitute their vaginas for money, power, or status.
I want this thread to be a list of whatever achievements women have contributed to world civilization and culture. In fact, I am daring all the feminists, Marxist radicals, and Jews who might be reading this article to list even one legitimate contribution to world culture by a woman. And please do not cite women like Marie Curie or Jane Austen. Marie Curie was a highly masculinised female who received a substantial amount of help from her husband, Pierre. And Jane Austen was simply riding on the coattails of previous male literary achievement. In order for the achievements to be considered legitimate (1.) the woman must not have received any help from a man, especially a husband or lover and (2.) the accomplishments must be original and have revolutionalized the technological, scientific, or artistic basis of Western society in some way. By these standards, neither Marie Curie or Jane Austen can be seen as anything else other than as high testosterone mediocrities who became famous almost by accident.
Women have contributed virtually nothing to human civilization and culture. This is because all women are mildly mentally retarded animals and subhuman primitives who do not possess the necessary intelligence or creativity to develop a civilization or make a scientific discovery of world-historical importance.a
Most women nowadays are certainly Low Life Losers to begin with and the Biggest Cheaters as well.
” her lack of judgement in selecting worthy mates”
For any 100 women there will be maybe 50 decent man. Most are clowns because they choose so. And then they blame for same things ther ppl, like you do.
You feast on average man poor image and direct them towards hating.
Seriously people, u thought u will forever be priviledged to control over some young women and use her as your home whore/maid, otherwise u wont satisfy. I wish u to go back 100 years and wish see what u whine about then.
This is an excellent primer for making men understand what they face today. The old set of books is no longer applicable.
By Master Plan you must be implying a divine creator or, the elitists like The Rothchild fmily’s control over central banks thus western socio-economics?
Well i do certainly have to say that Most of the women in the 50’s and 60’s back then did really put these low life loser women today to real shame.
You must surround yourself with the most shallow people on the planet. You admit you have zero trust for women and oodles of contempt for all women for simply acting exactly as you do. No woman in her right mind would stay with someone who frightens them and as suave as you may think you are women sense your feelings and run; unless they’re a bunch of drunken hoes which seem to be your target group. As a woman who actually fits your model of feminine attractiveness(as laid out on your site) and is engaged to the love of my life whom I respect, trust and need above all others and who works hard everyday for little pay. I understand your frustrations society and share many of them but these behaviors are not propagated only by women. They arise from a lack of moral and spiritual guidance on the part of families and society. (I am agnostic and have never subscribed to any religious order other than faith in humanity and kindness to all people.) I am therefore confused as to why you believe disrespect in the only way to combat disrespect. I hope one day you find someone you can trust and get to experience what a real relationship is like. I have never intentionally physically hurt a person before but if you keep this up I’ll have to challenge you to a few rounds in the ring. I have to work hard for my money and keep fit and if your character is indicative of your physical prowess- you’ll get beat by pretty girl 🙂
The real loser has just spoke.
Ironically women feel the same way about men. its like a self eating snake. Women blame men for making them cold hearted “clown audience” by men’s non committal attitude and unless we women are the skilled soapie scribes that rack a cliffhanger after every episode, once a man feels he’s ‘got’ us and the thrill of the challenge and chase is over, he will lose interest and move on to the next herd.
It’s not just women in general who are celebrating piss poor behavior, it’s also our mom’s. This is a sad thing and it is destroying men who once had a lifetime fondness for their mothers. My own mother, who is a religious zealot, has spread untrue rumors about me to family and friends. She also stole something of great value to me. My grandfather, who was a sergeant in the Aleutians in WW2, had a 1917 .45 Colt Revolver. It was the prized possession. On his death bed he gave it to me. Guess who has it now, my mother. Guess who will not give it back to me, even though I’ve hinted that I want it back. She learned these thieving ways from modern day feminist propaganda. Guess what she lost out of this…her son, the only son, out of three, that genuinely cares about her. I’ve been so nice to her, and been there when no one else was. She’s a widower as my dad died of cancer fifteen years ago. I felt responsible to be there for her. Now she is alone. She will remain so. I moved away and will probably only visit once in a blue moon.
Could it be that the poor woman sensed some incarnation of Eliot Rodger in the making? Quite a few of you lot here do send thesame exact vibe lol Anyway, there should bee no shame in seeking professional help.
Anyway, best of luck to you all!
Well i will certainly have to say that the real Good Old Fashioned women of years ago really did put these women today to real shame.
So you complain about women treating men like playthings. Playthings that actively need to make women happy. Playthings that really have no inherent value other than their “service” to woman?
Dude…. Have you even read your own articles? That is exactly how you want women to be. You want want women to be in the same role you don’t like for yourself?
If we’re clowns to them then what are they? You wouldn’t want to know.
Yeah I’m 33 and divorced I’ve pretty much have given up hope for anything. When you start wearing jogging pants and a white tee that’s says I hate my life, women start to walk in the opposite direction even in Wal-Mart and I’m pretty sure that’s the universal dress code. Im by no means entertaining, I’ve completed nothing noteworthy, and I lack the necessary social skills it takes to date in this country, and to top it off I’m taking in 8.33 an hour with two fifteen minute breaks mopping the floors at a local school cafeteria. Chicks find me repulsive so I never had a chance anyway no matter what century we live in.
American women suck altogether because of their very severe mental problem.
It is the brave new world, and if you are a man there is a target placed on your back so that any level of entanglement or entrenchment in a woman,s life can end legally with you emotionally and financially responsible to her up to and as long as a lifetime. Be afraid be very afraid to touch her is to be potentially owned by her.
wow…you nailed it down. Great read and sooo true.
Wow, the women of the past really did put these Loser women today to real shame after all.
https://www.18karatreggae.com/2015/03/21/almost-every-woman-is-a-prostitute-and-almost-every-man-pays-for-sex/
This is true, incidentally it has a photo of Donald Trump and Melania Knauss Trump. Great example, but its true women marry and have sex with men for financial gain, even those who do not explicitly label themselves as prostitutes. Even in polite society such women call themselves “escorts” but alas. The point is that a man’s attractiveness in the eye’s of most women lies within that man’s earning power and financial status. A guy with money will always get top picks for pussy. Drive a high end car, wear fancy clothes, have a big wallet, women will line up to suck your cock. This is the rule EVERYWHERE. The best women suck the richest cocks. People tell me about religion, race, culture, other bullshit, fuck off. Everything is about how a guy can provide a life for his woman. That is why you see ugly fat slobs with beautiful women, case in point, Trump with his wife.
Even if you are not handing over cash to her before or after sex, the chances are you are using financial resources to court that pussy. That is why guys with money usually never run out of pussy. And in many ways getting into a regular girlfriend-boyfriend, fuckbuddy, or even husband-wife relationship will be more financially taxing than just visiting some hooker.
Excuse the fuck out of you? You’re right, you are clowns.
Women aren’t brain washed. I was raised by my FATHER not to need you fucking idiots because even he knew how worthless ya’ll are.
You think women should be held responsible because your gender is worthless and does nothing but stick their dicks in what ever they can? Males are on welfare just as much as woman. If males kept their dicks to their worthless selves, women wouldn’t have kids to take care of. Oh and btw, we have jobs, asshole. We’re taking them from scum bags like you who don’t deserve them.
If any woman you meets reads this article, she’s going to drop you like the cold turd you are. You don’t deserve any woman, ever. You are vile scum.
Women are only worth a few bangs? That’s how males have been treating women for MILLENNIA ya fucknugget! Doesn’t feel so good to have it thrown back in your faces to be reduced down to your dicks, does it?!
You’re fat, though.
I think the next holocaust should be woman. No I’m not a beta male lmfao. I just hate them. The whole I have to be entertained bs, social media pschopades, stuck up attitude, entitlemen, the list goes on. I just hate every single thing about them. They need to be purged. Yes I’m aware what this means for the species. I don’t talk to them, give them the time of day nor acknowledge their existence because they aren’t worth it. They are waste of oxygen and deserve no rights. The want to just sleep around like retards them chain them to the bed or kill them.
You don’t care.. Yet here you are caring
I just wanted to say that I am so happy to live in the Balkans! People still do care about each other.The only thing that worries me is that we emulate everything western indiscriminately. I just hope we fall behind gender relations like we do in everything else lol
That is because women don’t ‘need’ you anymore, just like men don’t need women. We can provide our own stability and so we can chose a partner that we actually care about. You spend a post nit-picking women and how they aren’t ideal anymore, which is exactly what the women you’re complaining about are doing. Picking and choosing the right man for them. When you marry an ugly, feminazi for her baby making uses, then you can complain about women being unwilling to chose a man solely based on his ability to work.
But that’s just it Susan: If women don’t really “need” men anymore then why do you revert back to stereotypes of women “wanting” men as breadwinners/protectors and women as baby making machines? This invites us to quibble over what comprises a “want” or “need”. In theory, we can go full Buddha and say we don’t “need” anything and could even remove “wants” as well.
But that being said, I’ve often observed on this forum that PUA’s are perhaps the most “needy” of all men out there: They spend a significant fraction of their time fretting over how to entertain and please women to get laid. The smartest guys, I think, are those I knew who “strung” girls along by saying what it took to get them into the sack, moved in with them, and then went on an extended “engagement to engage” for about 8 years before the woman moves on. Then he would repeat the process.
On the other hand, as my wife observes, even supposedly liberated career women usually “need” men because due to the modern capitalist era, the cost of living can be quite high. Sure, a middle class woman can become a single mother but the burden is enourmous. My wife says that she is much nicer to me since we have a daughter because, being smart, knows that what women often do by treating men badly is undermine their own lives.
I chuckled at your final sentence of a woman choosing a man “solely” on his ability to work. Of course, we see that modern feminism never freed men at all but made them rather just additional, disposible accessories similar to a handbag or… say a baby. But at least a woman who recognizes the value of a man’s work and cuts him slack elsewhere is at least showing some dignity for what he brings to the table. It amused me how aging biological clock tickers demanded that men not only poop money out of their butts for her “chivalrous” seeking side, but then he should also pander to her notion of equality and put on a clown show and, of course, be trustworthy and not lying to her.
In the end, nothing has really changed except that feminism has harmed society, men and ultimately women as well with this pretense of fake equality.
Speaking of clowns which so many women nowadays are just wearing too much makeup and should join the circus since they really fit right in.
This is an incredibly limited view on modern women and life, no doubt written by a jaded, disillusioned person. I pity this author. Of course, this author is obviously judging all modern women based on the shallow, superficial ones met, whatever fraction that is of the whole, which is insignificant if under a million or even a billion since there are billions (plural) of modern women in the world, encompassing an enormous breadth of ages. Men can be so much more than clowns, and women can be so much more than stereotypical “princesses.” Just use your imagination.
Interesting article. This may be pretty common in the West but in Asia, in my country, it isn’t. Of course we have westernized Asians too, but our deeply-rooted culture is so deeply-rooted that it is almost impossible to get rid or forget. Minimize? Yes. Get rid? Nope. Because there goes two mantras the people live by: There is forever AND there is no forever.
The latter is produced by heartbreak and the previous is the inculturated notion to most of us.
There are still tons of women who value men and want to settle down. Girls here for instance, don’t normally make connections to get banged. Sex is not even a normal occurrence or necessity here when meeting the opposite sex or having a night out.
No need to take on the clown label all the time.
Hi. I am a 34-year-old loner who has never had a girlfriend, and will most likely die alone. From having a mother who was a verbally abusive sadist who loved to explain to the world what garbage I am, and having a former best friend all the way back from high-school who constantly picked women up off the streets, damn near impregnated them that same night, and regularly demoted me to a Third-Fucking-Wheel… I don’t even like talking about sexually at all.
I am also a Muay-Thai kickboxer who worships physical training and violence, and I want to maximize my fighting skills, so that I can take on my real enemy; guys who hurt women, and guy who fucking brag to me about their fucking sexual scoreboards!!
This message is for any feminists and lesbians who have actually been hurt or attacked by men in their past:
I ask you to channel all of that hatred, desire for vengeance, and justifiable anger, and aim it at ME. I want you to talk shit to me, and explain to me why I am fucking GARBAGE. PISS ME OFF… so that I can train harder, and improve my fighting skills more quickly and efficiently. Demonize me, and treat me like the bad-guy… so that I can take on the real bad-guys. Talk me into committing suicide if you want to… I can’t even deny that I probably should. Hell, if you want, I’ll even compare your words to those of my mother, and give you tips on how to Improve your ability to talk shit. After all, your ability to talk shit is pretty much your greatest weapon, and you need to make sure that ability is razor-sharp, and ready for use at any given time.
So if you want to tell a man how little he means to the world, then fucking DO IT… TALK SHIT TO ME!!
(Maniacal Hyena-like laughter)
Hi. I am a 34-year-old loner who has never had a girlfriend, and will most likely die alone. From having a mother who was a verbally abusive sadist who loved to explain to the world what garbage I am, and having a former best friend all the way back from high-school who constantly picked women up off the streets, damn near impregnated them that same night, and regularly demoted me to a Third-Fucking-Wheel… I don’t even like talking about sexually at all.
I am also a Muay-Thai kickboxer who worships physical training and violence, and I want to maximize my fighting skills, so that I can take on my real enemy; guys who hurt women, and guys who fucking brag to me about their fucking sexual scoreboards!!
This message is for any feminists and lesbians who have actually been hurt or attacked by men in their past:
I ask you to channel all of that hatred, desire for vengeance, and justifiable anger, and aim it at ME. I want you to talk shit to me, and explain to me why I am fucking GARBAGE. PISS ME OFF… so that I can train harder, and improve my fighting skills more quickly and efficiently. Demonize me, and treat me like the bad-guy… so that I can take on the real bad-guys. Talk me into committing suicide if you want to… I can’t even deny that I probably should.
Hell, if you want, I’ll even compare your words to those of my mother, and give you tips on how to Improve your ability to talk shit. After all, your ability to talk shit is pretty much your greatest weapon, and you need to make sure that ability is razor-sharp, and ready for use at any given time.
So if you want to tell a man how little he means to the world, then fucking DO IT… TALK SHIT TO ME!!
(Maniacal Hyena-like laughter)
That’s a little heart breaking, Roosh. Even still, I would like to be your apprentice clown.
The woman that wrote this topic to begin with is most likely a lesbian anyway.
There is only one difference between a modern woman and a spoiled child, the woman views herself as oppressed. Society gives women everything they could ever want; yet, we are supposed to believe they are underprivileged. The problem with the modern world is that people have it too easy. If life were more difficult, they’d know what it meant to have a real problem. If you want to correct a spoiled child’s bad attitude, stop spoiling them. Women don’t need more, they need less.
Then again i could only imagine what they are.
women are nothing more than sex toy to the modern man.
Well the way that i look at it is that most of the women today are so very retarded altogether as well as very dangerous too.
So glad I found a wonderful, grown man who doesn’t think like most of the clowns on this post. ROT IN MISERY, LOSERS! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Most of the women today Aren’t human at all.
Whatever happened to the real Normal Women that we once had years ago? Today it is very unfortunate that most of them are very mentally disturbed now.
I need a man.
Women are nothing more than sex objects and should be treated accordingly. Have your fun and GTFO, move on to the next one. You’ll be much happier if you avoid the whole relationship trap.
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Unfortunately just too many very retarded women everywhere nowadays.
I’d say women today have totally lost their value. They pull their pants down so fast why would any man want to marry one? Jesus, you know they’ll have an affair on you and then divorce you and screw you financially. Feminism is going to cause an awful lot of old maids or Lesbo’s.
Intersting article…
On the one hand men seem to become immasculated which can also bring some good traits out that are attractive to a woman. This wouldnt be a problem, but the ability to provide not with money but with a strong sense of being responsible for himself (at least) and respect women (because they were the once immasculating him) seems difficult.
Women also dont have it easy. It is a mens world and that is just how it is. Women have had to play hard for a mong time in work life because that is the language men understand or immature men have issues dealing with. It seems like a bit of a powershift to more equality drives men& boys insecure and looking for identity… well that is what women deal eith since way longer. It s just harder because it is a new thing for men. Just try to go with it by still being yourself and sticking up for yourself by respecting others.
The internet, but especially in the online dating sphere made me hate women with passion! I tried to be cool and nice and interesting, but all I got for the most part was me being ignored and lonely to the point of a breakdown. I was facing a cognitive dissonance inside myself, I still am, to be honest. Througout my past I was always thought by society that women are the gentler, the weaker, the most sensitive gender. They just want real love and bla bla bla, have to be put on a pedestal, become the center of your word bla bla bla beautiful, smart, fair, victims… Yeah too bad I don’t believe in Santa Claus anymore. The truth is totally the opposite. They are the worst manipulators, liars, killers that play innocent and pretends to be seen as innocent always, the poor poor gender that was picked on for millenia (I wonder why). In short they have become the real today’s assholes that think the they are entitled to get to the top of the world just because they have golden vaginas. They are abusing their position of power and they do it shamelessly using their sexuality. Most of the stuff on them is fake, but yet they are shameless. They use make-up to change their appereance, they use all kinds of visual trickery to make them more sexual appealing. They use all thise trickery and shamelessly pretend they are more then us, it’s true they tret us like clowns, but on the other hand we can’t take them seriously either, because they just don’t deserve it.
The Article is written by a Femisinist lib hate men..what do you expect.. but yes women have been A* lately to men…and so women going to suffer as well…it can also work both ways…Bitch!
Women are brainwashed and told to be… assholes to men now.. So what can one expect now..??
Femisinist Hate Men Lesbian Slut ..wrote this Article. Screw u2.
This is very well understood. Good examples can be seen by reviewing womens’ profiles seen on plenty of fish (pof.com). There are plenty of hateful, inconsiderate, and demanding profiles. I wonder if any of these women really understand the WHY they are getting no response. Dense or self inflicted ignorance or stupidity. What concerns me is the collective stupidity.
So true, they just want that master clown
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You sound like such a loser. Maybe the problem is you see the only goal being to bang them? Don’t chase skirt, let it chase you. Go to the gym, eat correctly, work hard at yourself. Be an example to be followed.
Oh brother. We are all born alone and we die alone. Along the way we live in our bodies, alone. It greatly enhances life to have others in our lives and the right mate, male or female is a tremendous gift BUT, not having a loyal, caring person while sad, is not automatically a death sentence. It is healthy to be in a relationship out of desire and not need. As to society taking care of all women, again, oh brother.
I can only imagine what they really are.
I’d laugh if we became an anarchist society with no rules or laws, woman would be crushed as they are genetically and intellectually inferior
And most women really belong in a circus altogether, especially with all that makeup on them which doesn’t really help at all either unfortunately.
Most of these women today are just pieces of shit to begin with. Case closed.