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It is called not being shy and just talking to women. I did it 30 years ago before it was even called an approach. Rejection is part of the numbers game to get laid.

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Yeah, I was doing it back then too. Someone recently in the Internet Marketing age put a new label on it, wrote a book about it, and created what many young men thought was revolutionary. We know it by the moniker and title of the book, “The Game”.

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I know a guy who was ok looking and got rejected by something like 50 women without a single bite. He was devastated. I liken it to someone going into the boxing ring and getting pummeled 50 times without laying a blow. What’s the point of it?

That’s not to say I don’t think that facing rejection has tremendous value. On the contrary, feminists whine that men earn more during negotiations because their usual tactic of waiting for someone to make the first move makes them poorly experienced with assessing their worth (both financially and even sexually).

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well I had one young buck ask how I did it. Bear in mind, unlike Roosh, I am not tall. I am not good looking. I am fat. I am short. BUT, I do not give a shit what people let alone women think and I have BALLS of steel. I laugh and act like a jerk. It has worked well and I have banged hot women in the USA before going global. Rejection hell grow a thick skin. It is part of life. Dress well, exercise and develop a sense of humor. I actually do worse with FSU Russian women that Roosh loves so much as they have been the biggest ice queen cunts to me even though I can speak Russian. Latin women are the best.

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I’m reminded of a term the German U-boats had for the period between the start of WWII and just before the Brits developed radar: “The happy times”. In the west, women expected men to approach them and rewarded men with thick skins such as you describe. There were a set of rules of engagement of course: The guy wouldn’t continue to bother them after she said no emphatically and the woman wouldn’t call up other men or her employer to beat him up or get him fired.

You used a key term: “act like a jerk” and I wonder if you’re one of those guys that gives the rest of us a bad name (granted, they were helping, of course). Namely, a lot of “tease” women liked having men not take no for an answer to prove he really liked her (the ultimate shit test) and the men fell for the game effectively helping to put men on probationary status (if he dumped her or she just wanted to be flaky, she could charge him as a harasser). This was codified in the “sexual harassment” legislation of the 90’s where men were fired over behavior that most women expected during courtship. It’s ironic that gamers in the states are so good with game precisely because they have to be but also once you develop that skillset, why settle for just one woman? So American women become assustomed to a higher level of game than is healthy.

I spent a lot of time in the FSU and ice queens they aren’t. They actually are far more feminine and emotionally open to men than I think American women are but they don’t play as many games and consequently, it turns them off. That’s not to say they are totally reasonable (they are women after all) but they are unlikely to want to bang a guy “punching above his weight” simply because he pesters her for it and puts on a little clown game and negging.

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Poor guy. Rejection sucks. I hope he’s happily married now.

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I’m raising a daughter now and I appreciate the value of controlled negative experience to help toughen someone up. She sometimes gets a boo-boo and this helps her to be thoughtful and handle future hardships that come along.

In any case, I knew that particular guy about 30 years ago and have forgotten his name but I remember the look on his face after going through those 50 rejections. It was like he’d gone through a war. I have other friends from that period who had similar experiences and many of them are divorced because the relationships and following marriages they went into lacked a context of, I daresay, equality between the couple or at least balance. After about 15 years or so, I think the guys either said “I could have done better” or they just didn’t get along because the relationships were so unstable.

There’s an old saying: don’t shop when you’re hungry. I always try to grab a snack before I hit the supermarket otherwise I’ll come home loaded with potato chips and snack cakes.

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Forum’s giving me a MySQL error saying that one of the tables has crashed.

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a female judge advises women to stop getting into wasted/ slutty mode, because in doing so they are in danger of being raped
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-39233617

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Sounds like something Judge Judy would say in her uniquely cunty condescending way.

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I think everyone should take better precautions. Women should stay safe, men should stay safe.

But ultimately, no amount of drinking or scantily clad dressing can make a man stick a hard penis inside of someone when they can’t consent. It’s just not factual.

Same thing with a guy who is drunk and a girl comes onto him and starts grabbing his penis when he cannot actually consent at the time, because dude is drunk off his ass. Guess what? She just molested him.

No one can make another person do anything. He might have been sexy as hell sitting on that couch and drunk, but did it give her the right to touch his junk? I don’t think so.

Same with the girl. She’s sexy and drunk. But can she consent and do you have the right to go to penis heaven on her drunk ass ? I think not.

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Thanks. Respect. As you say-something out of nothing=greatest skill. Last several days i was thinking-if someone can get something not fat and fuckable out of nightclubs in 2017, without spending a lot’s of money and using social circles-then,no doubt-he has highest level of socialization skills on the earth. Is it worth to learn and try? I really don’t know-it depends on personality of an individual. All i can say-it feels great to know,that you are at the highest level wink

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Thank you Roosh! BTW, you do look way younger and better without the beard. I recommend shave it, go for clean look. I had one when I was 25 but as soon as mine went full grey, I went with short clean look which serves me better. Women think I am 20 years younger than I am which helps with women.

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This is multiplied x30 in the states though, where the “Don’t even LOOK at me” look is common. This early neutralizer can devastate, but mostly just informs. You gotta be quick and move along. Speed is key

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Except this f****d up, weak ass idiotic type who cannot take rejection
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39315449

The world is changing….in a while approaching women will be last century’s thing, there is more and more madness around

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Disagree with Roosh. On the contrary, women are amazingly honest on dates perhaps because they have this shot to their ego when a man has asked them out, gamed them, and even playing the right to rejection. Like with cold approaches, women are at their most powerful before the man has laid them and they know how to use it.

In my day, it wasn’t really “shit testing” by women to be cynical about men “saying what it took to get laid” because that was the paradigm they created and fed on. They LIKED men giving them attention and using sex as a doggie treat and at the same time, were angry that men were “lying” to them. I heard this all the time from female friends and laughed my head off. I especially laughed when their hamster wheel kicked in and they said: “If he isn’t honest with me rather than saying what it takes to get laid, I won’t give him sex!” That’s like punishing a dog by denying him treats if he’s indicating he wants treats.

I’m from an earlier generation when most young men had to cold approach women because options were limited. It’s amusing to me that because it was so hard for most men, that they overlooked the obvious signs that the woman they did manage to lay (and then date and marry) would be a heap of trouble. Guys: If she’s on a date saying she admires golddiggers and how she used and abused previous boyfriends or husbands, run for your lives! But I find it strange how the men ignore these red flags and then after she gets nice with him (because she got laid and knows now he’s in the driver seat) the men forget what the women said in their drunken first date rants. There’s the saying about watching how people treat the waiter on a first date. See how she treats her exes because that will be YOU when she is annoyed at you for some reason or she doesn’t need you at that moment.

I like Roosh’s point and I admire men who do “put it out there” and face their demons but at the same time, I think a bigger one is actually having the ability to say no altogether. Not just being a sour grapes loser, but even deciding to throw a fish back in the water even you spent hours fighting to keep it on the hook.

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The women you were friends with sound horrible. I hope you’ve had a better experience with friends since then.

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I did! I think in life it helps that as time moves forward, we leave the bad people behind and retain the good people and eventually, we see the world as full of good people. As I was coming of age, I noticed that some people I met continued to rant about how awful people were but they weren’t editing the bad people out of their lives.

It’s funny you should make this comment because I just got a facebook friend request from a crazy ex girlfriend of 20 years ago. I was considering accepting it if only to find out what happened with our mutual friends I had lost touch with or perhaps her daughter’s status (I had a fondness for her) but it’s good to just let that sleeping dog lie and move on. My wife reads my facebook feed and she has seen pictures of this woman so it wouldn’t go well (and for reasonable reasons) for me to allow this person back into my life even electronically. She was one of the people I note who complained about all the people in her life being users while she treated people such as myself poorly while keeping the users around.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAoSHtkBhAY

and ? think still women are super cute goodsmelling women?? super cute how she sprays out this good smelling water and guts mhh and then this cute baby boy with its slime and blood and pussy slime god isnt that perfection, isnt that what god intended?? good dreams everyone and sleep well .. and that is where you came from you are nothing more than shitted out of that.. but nooo we are so super intelligent creatures created by god himself, we are no animals.. eehhh nope that video is once again prove , and I bet daryush moms was black and veeery hairy pussy mhhh must taste good ..have a good night

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This made me lol.

Ilijas Jung M5M πŸ‡©πŸ‡ͺ
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Amazing video, testosterone so good
It spikes so damn hard, will remember that at daygame.

Pump and pump,
-IJ

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They really should be proud. I’ve seen girls be mean to guys for absolutely zero reason. The cold approach has worked for me, because I find men who do that to be strong, and brave enough to be vulnerable. That’s the kind of person I want in my life, friend or otherwise. Rock on dudes. Rock on.