My Existence Is Becoming Illegal

On Friday, Jezebel published an article that contained a list of “hate” sites in the manosphere. They used a site called Man Boobz as its authoritative reference, a misandrist hotbed written by an overweight feminist woman with large breasts. I scored a spot on their list because I don’t always call women back after I have sex with them:

Roosh Vörek is a Maryland-raised PUA (“pick up artist”) whose specialty is sex with foreign women; his blog is a sales vehicle for his books like Bang: The Pick Up Bible and Bang Iceland: How to Sleep With Icelandic Women in Iceland, which one Icelandic feminist group described as a “rape guide.” Vörek likes to talk about his many “notches” (seductions) and such things as “American cunts who I want to hate fuck.” He adds: “I’ll be the first to admit that many of my bangs in the United States were hate fucks. The masculine attitude and lack of care these women put into their style or hair irritated me, so I made it a point to fuck them and never call again.”

The quotes-out-of-context game was played for several more sites you probably know, such as In Mala Fide, Spearhead, and A Voice For Men, though I am the only game blog to have made it (Heartiste should have been on there). Jezebel makes it clear that all the sites are “woman-hating” and “misogynistic.”

Hold on, my mistake, I’m getting reports coming in that Jezebel didn’t write this list at all. It was actually published by the Southern Poverty Law Center, an organization you may have remembered from high school U.S. history class. It was important during the black civil rights era in the United States, eventually suing the KKK out of existence. To save helpless victims of the American patriarchy, they are now attacking a group of guys who empower men, along with a bearded fellow who teaches how to score some of that sweet poonani.

Reason magazine published a response with a headline channeling The Onion: The Southern Poverty Law Center Is Now Writing About Pickup Artists as Hate Groups.

Take note, America: Having consensual sex (Roosh is not a rapist, but a seducer) with someone you don’t actually like and then never calling her/him again will land you in a reputation-ruining** SPLC report [which] gets sent to every law enforcement agency in the country

Business Insider also put up an article:

Be careful, fellas: If you use your personal blog to rant about women, a civil rights group just might publicize details about your mortgage and medical history.

Our cause is real, and it has arrived. Ironically, it is my inclusion on the list which has people gunning for the SPLC as an irrelevant organization. Here’s what the National Review had to say:

Now, piggybacking on the two minutes’ hate against Limbaugh, [the SPLC has] found a new arena of hate groups, comparable to neo-Nazis and the skinheads: the “manosphere” of misogynist web sites, including, among others, “Roosh Vörek . . . a Maryland-raised PUA (“pick up artist”) whose specialty is sex with foreign women.” As if that weren’t funny enough, one of their sources of information is—I am not making this up—something called manboobz.com.

Instapundit also weighed in. Finally, there’s a surprisingly fair article in the Huffington Post which almost makes me out to be a nice guy.

Two things I’ve written come to mind…

“Anything you do that increases your ability to be sexually successful while decreasing your dependence on dating American women will result in them trying to isolate and disparage you.” [Source]

Check.

“Being a man is already a crime or soon will be.” [Source]

Work in progress.

If a girl doesn’t like you after she has consensual sex with you, or has bad feelings in her tummy, she can say you raped her. Go to jail, creep. Rape laws are intended for real rapists, but they are being applied to fake rapists.

If a girl doesn’t like your approach, there will be a law on the books that will deem it illegal (they’re currently working on it in my home city). You’ll be arrested and have to explain a criminal record of “public sexual harassment” to potential employers. It is intended for perverts, but it will be applied to normal guys like us if you happen to have the bad luck of approaching a girl with issues or other mental problems, of which a whopping 25% of American women suffer from.

Instead of banning game, an Orwellian task, your elite masters will attempt to neutralize its effects by giving women a “put him in jail” card that she can use at the beginning or end of the process. Don’t like your approach? “Officer, he assaulted me by touching me on the shoulder.” Feeling regretful for slutty behavior? “Judge, he raped me while I was intoxicated.”

It is clear that gender hate is now a one-way street. Men can hate women but not the other way around. Men can rape, women can’t. Men can be abusive, both physically and emotionally, but women can’t. Men can be misogynist, but women can’t be misandrist, a word that is unknown to most of the American population. Men can be described as lazy slobs who play video games all day, but women are perfect as-is in a country where there are organizations trying to convince you that being fat is both healthy and beautiful. Male teachers get sent to pound-me-in-the-ass prison if they have sex with a student, but female teachers only get a slap on the wrist. If you’re a man, you’re likely a perpetrator of hate, violence, and abuse to innocent American women, even if you don’t yet realize your thought crime, but never the other way around. If an American woman is being “strong” and “independent” by criticizing you, you best stop whining, man up, and accept her masculine behavior as the new normal in today’s glorious utopia.

If a group called RadFem is outed for advocating real hate and abuse to men—of fantasizing about killing men—then you should just ignore it. No media outlet will dare report on extreme feminists. They will not be put on any liberal think tank’s hate list. But if some guy teaches men how to get laid while making fun of women who have long since stopped acting like women, his name is not only put on such a list but it’s forwarded to law enforcement agencies across the country. If another man teaches men how not to get raped in divorce court or get his kids taken away, he’s advocating hate speech. The supreme irony is that the principal source for the SPLC list is a vehement anti-man web site, Man Boobz, whose main audience is lesbians and transsexuals. This is who they consult when constructing a report that may have serious consequences for those heterosexual men mentioned. It would be like President Obama asking me to construct a list of gay guys who have may have said meanie things in the past.

Look back ten years. Do you remember hearing about false rape accusations? Was there a such thing as “street harassment”? Now imagine ten years into the future. How much more “progress” will they make? My only hope is that the sites who made the SLPC list will attract a larger audience who helps push back feminist attempts to outlaw normal male behavior. This arduous process, for the most part, is unacceptable to me. Life is too short to fix a broken culture, to change the minds of so many brainwashed people who are primed since birth to deny reality. I believe the only real solution is expatriation. Until that solution can be achieved for you, learning game and carefully choosing women you get involved with will suffice.

When I first found out that I was on the SPLC list, I laughed. I accepted all the congratulations from my readers on Twitter and on the forum, but at the end of the day I felt depressed. I felt depressed because I know that my ideas will never be widely accepted in my lifetime, that as long as I write I will be constantly attacked. I was attacked in Iceland, I was attacked in Denmark, and I was attacked by neo-Nazis in Estonia who called the police on me for having a drink at the club. And now the establishment in my own country is on the verge of declaring my writing and ideas to be illegal. I don’t know exactly how I got here, but I have a feeling that this is just the beginning.

If I knew years ago that blogging about getting laid and travel would put me on a hate list by a civil rights organization, I would have stayed anonymous. Too late now. I will be silenced at some point, but until then I will go on with my big head held high. I’m far from done.

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Jersey
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Stay strong Roosh. You may have just been a guy who wanted to get laid more when you started, but now you’re the focal point for thousands of us. You didn’t choose this role, but it chose you.

The funny thing is that only because of your journey are you now properly prepared to handle all of this. I mean, the Denmark and Estonia troubles have gotten you ready to take on the onslaught that is coming your way after the SLPC list.

And they’ll also bring with them thousands of frustrated men that had no idea that game involved anything else than fuzzy hats.

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Anyone who doesn’t agree with “liberal” elites and the liberal establishments in the West will soon find that they are persona non grata. The liberal establishment does not respond well to argument and reasoned debate; rather they have found out that smears, hysterical accusations and threats have been much more successful in silencing anyone who doesn’t agree with their party line. It takes courage and conviction to take a stance against this knowing full well what awaits you.

Having observed “liberals” in action in the UK, I know the extremes that they will go to and how they will make alliances with some truly vile and dangerous people and groups to persecute certain other groups in society. We also know of the limitless hyprocisy and double standards of liberals and femininsts. For example I have read a few articles in the popular press from “feminists” trying to tell us that the Burkha is about “freedom” (yes I know) and other such amoral doublespeak.

Don’t be intimidated by these bigots Roosh. Their first attack is always to see if you will wilt; don’t let them bully you into compliance with their agendas.

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The world has gone nutes. if this is what the New World Order defines as “illegal”, then EVERYTHING becomes illegal (even ANY phonecall can be interpreted as harassment). One thing we have to admit is that these so called “Law Centers” have their origin precisely in the States, where intimidation like this kind of “bigbrothery” is dehumanizing our world.Many revolutionary folks were only recongnized after their times. Tragic but true. Again, don’t let this “judgment” and intimidation come to you. The world if full of hysterics, and we got to defend ourselves from their hysterical actions.

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Roosh, dOn’t forget the sunny side of this news: you get some free publicity here, which will translate in good sales numbers.

Phil
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Look at it this way Roosh–the Establishment’s warped ideology does not occupy anywhere near the majority of minds in the West.

The only people who take Jizzebel seriously are ugly wymins in places like law school and “education” school.

Rafael L
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You must be doing it really great so as to cause these reactions smile

Chuck Rudd
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Roosh,

I think that what you write about will be accepted in short order. In fact, it’s clear that it is already being accepted. The root message has gained traction which is why groups like SPLC and feminists have taken to attacking the man (and men) behind it. I mean, that’s not a surprise nor is there much room to condemn their criticism on those grounds. The men of the Manosphere enjoy being called assholes. But the desire to be seen that way is different than being a violent or dangerous individual. That’s where they go wrong.

Game and MRA, as we know, are not in the same camp. But the fact that SPLC goes after you shows the weak rationale that the group is using to go after MRA as well. It’s all a fundraising tool, and the founder of SPLC is much more dangerous than any of the guys mentioned in the report.

Self-plug alert:

http://goodmenproject.com/ethics-values/the-southern-poverty-law-centers-creepy-mission/

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As for the SPLC, they are currently in the business of hounding perceived ‘thought’ criminals as much as anything.

The Establishment behaves this way because they MUST–such is the foundation of sand their house of cards is built on.

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I’ve been very happy to see shout-outs on Instapundit, The Agitator, Reason and other libertarian-leaning sites. And wondering when you’d address it. You didn’t disappoint me.

You know what they say: No publicity is bad publicity. Wear it as a badge of honor, Roosh. The SPLC has been a laughingstock for years. The SPLC annual hate-crimes tally is widely ridiculed for exactly what you’d expect – setting the hate-crimes bar so low that it becomes an exercises in thought-crimes counting, which reveals more about the counters than anything happening in the real world.

Maybe you’re right to be paranoid. I sure hope not. You’ve got a shitload of company on the enemies list, that’s for sure.

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Scary shit. I had a chat with the cops once as someone called the cops saying I was harassing women. I thought it was because I was a brownie approaching some white girls. It’s happening to white guys also. Yikes!

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Another thing, Roosh:

The Thought Police wouldn’t be on your case if they didn’t have gnawing worries in the backs of their sick minds that you are succeeding.

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And the scary thing is that what the SPLC does is bordering on libel, if not deep in it, but they are state supported, accepted organizations.

Trying to sue them for libel would be suing the whole state behind them.

And once the link between the enemies of men like SPLC and the state is made, another red pill is swallowed,

Question remains, how to move forward.

the icelandic whores of feminists declaring Roosh’s books as “rape guides” need to tell their girls first to stop slutting it up with men who they met five minutes ago, and should be sued deep into the hells of femishitting for libel and slander.

If Roosh is a “rape guide” author, that makes cosmopolitan “monthly rape guide for women” and almost all other feminist publications “guide to murder” “guide to theft” “guide to rape”, “guide to genocide”, “guide to infanticide”, “how to kill babies (not just unborn)” etc…

The difference is, one group is subsidized by the PTB, the other, roosh, is a group trying to make ends meet while paying for the femishitters by their confiscated taxes.

The SPLC have shown to the normal public something that was clear to readers of un-PC thought: That they will not be arguing with logic, reason and facts, but that they will lie, smear, libel, and slander and just be outright dishonest in their attacks towards people who are scraping the ground for some kinds of rights for men.

Kony2012?

I know which motherfuckers should be parachuted over there. to save costs, with no ammunition. Give them some flyers, and some sunscreen.

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Damn Dawg, thats some fucked up shit. I have read some of your books and a bunch of your posts. They are insightful and written well. I don’t know how the fuck you end up on a “Hate” list. Apparently, its ok to fuck & pick up on women, just can’t write about it. Well we will just have to see what the Courts feel about the First Amendment. Its a shame about all the haters out there, but in the end the rule of law will certainly triumph. Thank God for Due process. I think you will be ok. Keep your head up & keep inspiring us to approach and get our Fucks on.

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I think you need to take a deep breath, go for a hike in the woods, get off the internet for a few days, and get over yourself.
No one is going to prison, no one of authority actually cares. The “establishment” is not out to get you, this is not the 60s. Some random people on Stormfront posted about you, and a random part of the SPLC led by a bull dyke who sits in a cubicle and churns out memos, mentioned you in a random report they put out. And then the “blogosphere” which a vast majority of actual humans don’t even know exists, churned out some articles.
Lastly – “I felt depressed because I know that my ideas will never be widely accepted in my lifetime”

I really don’t understand that. First of all, given that you are statistically likely to have another 50 years of life, how could you possibly know that? Things change a lot in just 5 years.
And what does it matter if your ideas are accepted or not widely? I mean, thousands of people read your books and visit your forum, and fawn over you and even think you are an example, is that not enough of an ego boost for you? You know that game works, you know that it makes your life better, and that’s all that matters.

The G Manifesto
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International Playboys are the most persecuted group in America.

Anonymous
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Don´t let this BS spoil your break!

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If there is one positive out of this, it’s that it brought the pick up and men’s rights communities closer together.

I see these 2 communities as very similar (share many of the same goals).

It’s about not putting up with shit from women. About expecting a higher standard.

Anonymous
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this is starting to get ridiculous.

ponymaruni
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Keep doin yo thing mane. we got yo back keep yo head high. Keep preachin brotha

Mike
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Roosh,
Hang in there. I’ll buy another book to show my support. I will continue to implement the teachings and be a foot soldier for you.
Mike

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Some interesting things about the SPLC and Morris Dees…http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/MorrisDeesFactSheet.pdf

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More than anything else it is the presentation of your information that’s getting you in trouble smile At issue is not that you are teaching men how to seduce women. It is the way you are characterizing American women in general: negative generalizations are never going to be taken well doesn’t matter how true they may be. At the end of the day we both want the same thing. The difference between your and my approach is that I believe in a win-win approach. Both men and women have to work together to build a successuful relationship and both have to feel they will win something in the end. As much as you put down the femininist some of your rants aren’t much better. In general your work and assessments are good. It’s your objective and information delivery that could be tweaked a bit smile

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As someone already mentioned, the one positive out of this is free exposure. Stay strong roosh, you still have the protection of the 1st amendment to fall back on if anything happens, remember that.

Also, when your hiatus ends, how about a post about when you got kicked out of the club in Estonia by the police? Sounds like a great story. Stay strong bud.

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How about a video response to the SPLC?

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Take off your furry hat roosh and get serious. Do a video response and tell the SPLC what is on your mind.

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I agree with Amante, the packaging of information is important. But please don´t make this site a showcase of PC bullshit. That would be over the edge. Freedom of expression, period.

[Roosh: You guys are right. I will roll out with new, liberal-safe packaging that matches this site in mainstream acceptability: http://ow.ly/9BCw3 ]

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God bless you Roosh for offending as many people as you did and for spitting in the face of political correctness and feminist “progress.”

They will ridicule and hate you, but always stick to your truth. The moment you will try to please others with your writing is the moment you will lose.

I’m happily married and have no need to the bang books, but I will still buy your book just for support.

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“I was attacked in Iceland, I was attacked in Denmark, and I was attacked by neo-Nazis in Estonia who called the police on me for having a drink at the club.”

I don’t understand what neo-Nazis in Estonia have to do with being a manosphere blogger. I feel ya Roosh, but this just doesn’t make sense, unless, of course, you’re just having a massive self-pity party, in which case, knock yourself out, I guess.

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As a big fan of Steve Sailer, who is also on the SPLC’s hatelist, I look forward to seeing more of your readers also begin to read other literature that SPLC attacks. Interesting times ahead.

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Let’s hear about those neo nazis in Estonia. The ones who called the police on you.

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Dude,

You thought you were just out to get laid and now you’ve become a freedom fighter. What a fucked up country we all came from.

Don’t ever let these assholes get your down or stop what you’re doing.

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I stopped reading at “written by an overweight feminst [sic] woman with large breasts.” Clear misogyny. Your blogger friends who wrote supportive comments are right– the only people who would take this recent controversy seriously are women “in places like law school and ‘education’ school,” along with any other educated person, male or female. You were born with every advantage– heterosexual, white, male. Congratulations for using those advantages not to educate and better yourself and/or the world, but to make your gender look stupider and more bigoted than normal.

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Roosh your blog is great. Keep your head up and ignore the naysayers.

JoyStick
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nice post. just curious.. what was the point of calling out roissy?

dicipres
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Angry White Woman,

you see
“written by an overweight feminst [sic] woman with large breasts.”

as “Clear misogyny”

and yet make the claim

“make your gender look stupider and more bigoted than normal”

which is a “sexist” remark, but it is ok under feminist logic since it is sexist against the male gender.

To understand why you are a sexist feminist scum, think about what would happen if roosh would have made the following statement: “make women look stupider and more bigoted than normal”

Conversation with feminists is a waste of time, and you just make that more clear. I write this comment not for you, but for all the others who still have capability to free, non politically correct thought process.

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Correction:

In the the heat of the moment, I accidentally wrote “sexist feminist scum”

I apologize for this comment.

What I actually meant to write is “worthless sexist feminist scum”

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Bless You !

dicipres
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Another correction:

After long and careful consideration and deliberation, I decided to change “worthless sexist feminist scum” into “disgusting worthless sexist feminist scum”

Again, I was lacking in proofreading. I regret any inconveniences I may have caused.

Ravi Macho
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Bless You again !

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Do not let them discourage you.

It is not anymore about game or pick-up art, it became about ideals.

About training and studying and practicing something as a passion.

About the conscience and the capability to self determine one’s own fate.

About human thinking and individuality.

About freedom.

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Roosh,

Don’t ever stop!! You are telling the truth. People that live in reality know this!

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Fair point. Let me try again:

I stopped reading at “written by an overweight feminst [sic] woman with large breasts.” Clear misogyny. Your blogger friends who wrote supportive comments are right– the only people who would take this recent controversy seriously are women “in places like law school and ‘education’ school,” along with any other educated person, male or female. You were born with every advantage– heterosexual, white, male. Congratulations for using your privilege not to educate and better yourself and/or the world, but to make yourself and your gender look stupid and bigoted.

Thanks for all of the names.

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“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you…

Then you win.”

– Mahatma Gandhi

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It’s funny on the day I start a blog labeled ApocalypseMan, this is indeed where we are headed when I read this. We imply women’s rights supporters are liberal…well I’m quickly learning that extremists on the left are against free speech as much as extremists on the right, for whatever serves their agenda.

This is really sad. Obviously some of the stuff written on here can seem a bit extreme to some…but that’s the point. This isn’t mainstream thinking. It’s like Bill Maher said on his show last week…what do these people want? They want us all to speak like Whitehouse spokesmen? Not offending anyone? People’s lifestyles and opinions aren’t supposed to make everyone happy. But why has it come to this? When a man says he doesn’t like the way things are with women and says why, he is punished for it? I mean, this is ridiculous.

I guess no publicity is bad publicity, but getting threatened like this is an absolute joke. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. I’ve never read anything here that suggests doing something terrible to women. If you really hated women…and I mean hate as it would be defined by “hate-crime”, well you wouldn’t be having sex with them would you? Or wanting to? Makes no sense.

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Amante:

No point to complaining. Who here even bothers to debate with these women? They are angry people, they refuse to see the other side. This site isn’t mean to have meaningful discussions with women, as far as I can tell. Some men could use ideas from here to take action in their own lives to avoid painful mistakes and be happier. Actions speak louder than words. Discussion with feminists. Lol.

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Roosh I’m so sorry that they are doing this to you.

I’m a girl and I wish I had read your blog when I was 18 or 20. I never understood men, but after reading your blog I have a greater appreciation for men. I understand where your coming from, I see how women act that hurt men and how society has changed that has hurt men.

In some ways I like your blog better than Heartsy. Because I know that you’re coming from a genuine place of male frustration at the world…and you are not trying to put some ‘brainwashing’ ideas out there.

You are the Genuine One whose Opinions I Trust.
And that is exactly why it was you who was put on the list.

Roosh, we will keep the battle going against all this bullshit.

Best of luck and you always have a friend in AFemaleCat.

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Roosh , if in the end of the day everything goes wrong , you will always have Brazil. You know you are welcome here.

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Roosh, no bullshit, your site and heartiste saved me. I used to be beta as fuck. I gave a girl in college who failed a class with me a card & chocolate with a note saying how wonderful she is, and how she shouldn’t let a grade keep her down, etc. etc. We studied together and all this crap before then. What happened to me? I got shit on.

Then, I found game. After game I went from a 25 year old who couldn’t pick up a 35 year old to picking up 18 year old girls.

If game didn’t work I wouldn’t use it, but it works. Thank you for doing men an enormous favor and making me realize how naive I was to think that women actually care about a guy who wants the best for them versus wanting them for sex.

Stay strong brah

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“Instead of banning game, an Orwellian task, your elite masters will attempt to neutralize its effects by giving women a “put him in jail” card that she can use at the beginning or end of the process. Don’t like your approach? “Officer, he assaulted me by touching me on the shoulder.” Feeling regretful for slutty behavior? “Judge, he raped me while I was intoxicated.” “

When that happens, men will be seperated into two camps – the ultra-polite “nice guys” who will obey the new laws and sexually disgust women (including the feminists), and the jerks who break the laws and objectify, wolf whistle and grab ass and get laid like gangbusters.

Come to think of it, maybe we’re already there.

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Don’t worry lad in a couple weeks you’ll realize ho irrelevant this all is. Some fem bloggers and a public pressure group with time to kill isnt even on th average persons radar screen. Your lif will be exactly the same as it was last month in a week, month and year from now.

It’s irrelevant with a capital I

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Everyone here is starting to realize the joke our government has become. At the same time, I hope more of our American brethren are awakening to the fact that the Left vs. Right, Democrat vs. Republican, Liberal vs. Conservative arguments are all BALONEY!

We have all been duped. There is no difference between the left and the right! The only true political scale on which views can be measured is the following:

Individualist———–|———–Statist

You either believe in more power for each individual, or you believe in total power for the government to run our lives. Understand this, and you will understand American politics and how both sides are just different sides of the same coin, the coin of big government!

Understand your civil rights. No government or person has the right to impose laws or take aggressive action against a person, whether it be through taxation or physical violence!

If this has at all interested anyone reading this, I urge you to explore Libertarianism as the answer to the problems that plague our modern society.

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Roosh, any publicity is good publicity….

You probably sell more books this week than you have in a long time…