My Experimentation With “Older” European Women

During my first trip to Poland, it was tough to find a single woman older than 25 in the club, but something happened in the proceeding three years to where the the night scene is now full of them. I regularly witness a consistent flow of older women (ages 25-30) who failed to find a man during their prime and is looking for a handsome prince to sweep them off their feet.

There are four main advantages to dating older European women:

  • They flake less
  • They answer the phone and respond to text messages promptly
  • They require a lower level of game
  • They are more desperate to meet a man

The last point is what made me curious, because who wants to “game” a girl and have to be methodical about every text you send when you can just lay back and let the girl do most of the work? So for nearly two months, I did not exclude these older women from my dating pipeline, racking up a large enough sample size to understand what they are like. Considering that I’m 35, these women still felt “young” enough for me, but definitely older than what I’m used to.

There’s an important fact you need to understand about European women: she understands the urgency of her biological clock. European women are not as delusional as American women in thinking that she can postpone marriage forever. This is why the most elegant and feminine women in Eastern Europe are those who are older—they understand that a strong feminine essence is required to land a man. While a younger girl takes her beauty for granted and often dresses like a hipster, her older counterpart knows that men like beautiful women with long hair and red lips. This is why Eastern European women rarely hate on traditional ideas.

But even though they know of the great difficulty in finding a man after 25, they are still single. This endures in spite of the fact that there’s absolutely no shortage of beta providers in Eastern Europe who orbit these women starting from a young age. How is it possible that a woman who is hyper-aware of how hard it is to find a man after her physical peak and who had several options to land a beta male is still single?

The answer: they have severe issues that make them undatable.

An available Eastern European girl who is 30 years old is equivalent to a 40-year-old American woman because her loneliness persists in spite of her advanced mating knowledge and upbringing in a far more traditional environment. She’s still single even though her mother and grandmothers have been nagging her to find a man for over a decade.

All their issues can be boiled down into two categories:

1. Irrational standards. She believes that she can land a perfect man even though she’s not perfect.

2. She is more likely to disrespect the boner. Young girls can act silly and annoying, but older women consistently make boner-killing statements and exhibit frigid behaviors. Many of these come out of left field, suggesting some kind of social maladjustment.

I’ve had older Polish women say amazingly retarded things to me that just kill my sex drive for them. They also have emotional displays that fall on the far extremes (emotionally cold like an iceberg or completely unstable like a child). It can get to the point where you hope that they don’t speak because what they do say will make you less eager to have sex with them.

If we look at this problem from the perspective of natural selection, there must be a reason why European women remain single even though there are unlimited provider options for them while fully understanding that things get harder with each passing day. They are either turning down men in the hopes of doing better or are getting dumped by men for being a poor partner. Unless they had a serious illness that prevented them from dating between 18-25, they have no excuse. At least American women can say that they were working hard on their office “career.”

Even worse, older women are not easier than younger girls when it comes to sex. They understand that men generally don’t respect easy girls so they purposefully adhere to their “no sex until X time” rules, trying to snag you into a relationship before you get a sample of the goods. If you want to waste dozens of game hours, pursue older European women because you think they’ll be easier.

I’ve concluded that women over 25 have little place in my dating life—not for relationships and not for casual sex. While younger women take more game, more effort, and a higher tolerance for bullshit, the rewards are far greater, because the relationship is more pleasing to my boner. She also doesn’t see me as a marriage parachute before hitting the dreaded 30. This is a shame because I expect an exploding population of yoga-practicing older women to hit European streets in the next ten years, but I can clearly see them as the damaged goods that they are. I rather work my ass off for something younger.

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Roosh V
What age does it become far more challenging for most guys to get a relationship with a fine 21-23 yo?

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Ask me again in 5 years.

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“Most guys” don’t have a chance at a fine 21-23 yo at any age. A fat, slob, nerdy 20yo male doesn’t have a chance against a 40yo player. Age matters far less than experience. I’m reading Nick Krauser’s memoir and one of the money quotes is: “intermediate game is worth $2 million in the bank” (dedicated guys should be intermediate at ~1000 approaches)

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Nick Krauser, good as he may be, has the sole goal of getting laid until the white race is enslaved in 10-20 years time and ends shortly after. If this wasn’t the end consequence of his lifestyle, I might’ve had some respect for him, instead of expecting him to have his neck under someone else’s boot. I guess this is why I prefer Roosh because he acknowledges to a much greater degree things outside of game, whereas NK pretends to do this, but there will be no new version of him who is white in the future, because he lacks wisdom.

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Krauser, like Roosh, have shown men that they don’t have to buy into the horrible deal modern society has planned for them. Krauser has shown himself to be the best at what he does. Your envy and self-righteousness is extremely weak.

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I regret you do not see that the end result of too many following his behaviour is the end of the white race – to call it envy and self-righteous is to be so brainwashed by PUA fanboydom as to ignore warning of your own impending enslavement and destruction.

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just keep sleeping around guys. let blacks do the procreation untill the white race is gone. dont get married and dont have no kids. just keep fucking random chicks and then ask yourself why most women are whores

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They were whores long before they even knew I existed.

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I honestly don’t know what you could tell men to avert the depopulation process. It’s coming whether you like it or not.

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I agree with you, but the problem is that there is no reason to be invested into it.

I’m not buying into shares at the Buggy Whip Factory either – because there is no reason to.

I too lament the white race and what we *once* had – but we don’t have it anymore.

It’s like in the movie “The Jerk.”:

“It’s not the money I’m going to miss… it’s all the stuff it can buy!”

There’s really no point lamenting about it or trying to save money ***NOW***. The time to stop this bullshit was decades ago.

Have you ever watched the Disney Movie “Fantasia” where as much as Mickey tries to fix his past mistakes with magic, they just keep causing more problems?

That’s where we’re at.

Eventually it will all collapse… every time humans have gotten to this point, it’s led to destruction… so enjoy the decline. It very literally might be the last good times like this you will ever see. People in Argentina certainly didn’t seem to like going out clubbing and sarging for the latina babes after their economic collapse either. So enjoy the debauchery while you can.

There is only one Jesus Christ whose destiny it is to save the world.

Why does everyone insist everyone else ought to become Jesus Christ?

I am not him, and I suspect neither are Krauser or even Roosh.

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Yeah, that was interesting. A bit deranged, but still interesting.

The guidance is not “enjoy the decline”, because that is not how it works. I tried to profit off the economic decline after 2007, but I couldn’t come up with any good strategies for doing so. There is no enjoying the decline; declines are ugly. The best one can hope for is to survive the decline.

I’ve pretty much straightened it out in my head that human depopulation is inevitable. No one has been able to convince me otherwise. Truth be told, the extinction of the human race is sufficiently far in the future that it is not something I can worry about.

What does concern me is what happens to society when we pass the peak of the curve. What happens to society when people in general become aware that population is declining?

Two examples come to mind: One is urban areas, such as Detroit, that suffer a population exodus. I’m not sure what exactly to point to there, but overall it just looks grim. People become opportunistic and cynical when they do not sense a future.

Japan is the really disturbing example. The young people retreat into oddly dysfunctional behavior. The men go into solitary pursuits and presumably alleviate their sexual tension with pornography.

The young women descend into debauchery – but it’s a debauchery that does not involve actual contact with
men. I recall an anecdotal report that something like half of Japanese women have done pornography.

It is a bizarre world. Hyper sexualized women, yet less actual sex.

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It is not so much about age. I am 23 years old and love a man is in his 40’s.We are from Europe. I did not intentionaly feel that I wish to marry a older man, but he was the man I fell in love with, and his age was not consequential to me. I have friends who frowned upon this, they said they would never have a 15/20/25 years age gap, etc. , but guess what, it is not true. A friend of mine who sweared she would not, recently become engaged to a man 27 years older.

Of course I considered things such as the possibility of early widowhood (I pray not), and other negatives. But there are also advantages. And when I fell in love, I said to myself even if he were older than his age, I dont think I could part from him. Because by that point I was already too in love with him as a person. You understand?

Do not worry so much about your age. Worry about being the best man you can be, only. And a good woman will not be concerned about your age.

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What country do you come from?

Americannculture reaches younger women negativity towards older guys. Europe seems to have always been more cultured-I mean NFL and Cheeseburgers is not exactly elegant, right?

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Its more normal for age gaps across all of Europe, for the man to be older, moreso than the US

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its true. here in Germany women are generally not attracted to much older guys. maybe 5-7 yrs older but thats it. in Ukraine Russia and Belarus ist perfectly fine to date girls 10-17 yrs younger. but I would not push further than that. after all the woman has to be genuinely attracted to the guy

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25 yo women are the worse. At least here in Italy.
35-40 yo women are the best: their biological clock screams “IT’S LATE!!!”
I’m 41 yo divorced, I’m fucking more now, without efforts, than when I was 21 yo and I did efforts…

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I thought I had finally hit the wall..turned out it was just a unlucky streat. I’m 37.

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I can agree on all of roosh’s points, I am in Hungary and dated a few women around 25-30. They can be a real mess. And the baby rabies is insane in them.

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(Especially)Budapest women are a big disappointment. Seems like most magyar quality babes got already exported to italy, germany and austria one or two decades ago. The lepukkadt rest is fugly or are comsumer zombies with the average IQ of bread. Western SJW Media smartassness and hispter crap is spreading like a virus. Second and third tier cities like debrecen, szeged and Eger still got the magical, slender, long haired, shy and natural beautys, even though they get rare. Eastern europe is not the gold mine it used to be.

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I think most of the human race is shit. Its just that modern westernisation(read: marxist homogenisation) turns the culture into shit. I was shocked when I was the only guy who helped this drunk guy who was freezing to death in the cold. He literally fell down and was lying down for two minutes and people closer to me did not help him. I walked over and helped get him to a warm place so he did not die of the negative temperatures. People just don’t help each other any more. I was with a buddy whose job was to get paid tons of cash as he came up with the idea of exporting British jobs to Hungary, and then from there to India (like betraying your own countrymen for cash). I am no longer friends with this man because of this ideology that he followed. The only problem is, given cash, most western men would do the same. The west is just full of soul-less men too, only interested in poosey and cash, just like the women. We are so fucked.

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I thought Hungary was a hidden gem if you like lots of thin, attractive white girls. The only problem is that it has become too westernised – the attitudes are becoming too similar to the west, if not worse in some cases. Still, for a lot of men here, it offers more than US/UK.

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Wrong. I would never go there for game. Utterly Westernized.

The best girls in the world are in the FSU, but it is significantly harder than anywhere else in Eastern Europe, probably harder than anywhere else in the world.

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I can see the argument, but on the other hand I prefer to speak with women who are older than 25. Younger girls look sexy, but when they speak they sound so immature. I find that I can’t spend much time with them before I get irritated.

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I think the real question is the dating and relationship choices of men and women under 25, as they are the future of the human race. I think that older age demographics in the west are much larger and politically powerful groups than younger ones. SO we concentrate on the 30+ crowd and not on younger people, which is ass-backwards. Younger people are the future, and so we owe it to them to make it a good one, which is how societies propagate themselves. Societies which do not do this die out very quickly in the most painful ways (borne out repeatedly by history, such as ancient Rome or even Babylon).

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THIS. I’m a reasonably intelligent man, and so I want a woman who will arouse my intellect as well as my loins. Young chicks are just retarded, all narcissistic, reality tv watching, social media addicts who don’t know anything about the world. Give them a few drinks and you’ll really want to shoot yourself rather than listen to their nonsense!

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You hear this from men who have no options: “I don’t care that she is ugly, she’s not THAT ugly, I mean she has nice cheeks, she is nice to me”.

They rationalize their options. A true alpha male can have any TYPE of girl he wants. An alpha male with game can get girls in Russia who look like supermodels. Literally.

Options will change the way you view the world. A guy in a cubicle who hasn’t gotten laid in years will be really happy with a 35 year old hag. A guy with years in the game and experience with the highest-quality women on the planet will see the world through different goggles. The same happens to women who alpha widow, anything less than the best than they’ve had may be good for sex, but you won’t feel anything on an emotional level.

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That’s the point though, dude. I don’t want a wrinkled old prune, but I also don’t want a braindead young chick obsessed with Iphones, social media and reality television. I think 25-28 is a decent compromise

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In the West, a 25-28 year old girl is a bitter and unpleasant ex-whore with dozens of notches on her belt, yet with the same standards as her younger self.

In the West, the older the girl gets, the more shit she becomes. This is applicable everywhere, but especially in Western countries due to the psychological effects of the carousel.

If you want true human quality, you will not find that in Western countries, no matter what age range you go for. You have to go to particular countries where the quality of women remains high.

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Amen. GT, take a trip to eastern europe, south america or almost anywhere in asia (excluding muslim countries, of course) to get the most bang for your buck.

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I disagree. I’m a 25 year old American woman, and with age I become more and more aware of my instincts and am more confident in myself. I certainly have become less of a “whore” as I’ve gotten older because I’m more confident saying no.

I would occasionally hook up (not sex) with guys in college, but that was largely due to societal pressure. Once I left the college environment (which happened last year because I pursued a professional degree right after undergrad), I became much more confident in my own values. I don’t hook up with guys anymore. That was a phase I went through so I could feel “normal.” Now, I realize our culture is just messed up and the promiscuous girls are usually insecure – it shouldn’t be a goal to act like them. You try going to college in today’s culture – it’s all about the drunken hookups, and you really can’t escape it. There’s pressure from both men and women to act like a piece of shit.

At 25, I’m not a bitter or unpleasant ex-whore at all. I’m less promiscuous than ever, and it’s by choice. I finally feel confident being myself and not acting like my sorority sisters. I’m not bitter about being single because I know I have a lot of options – being single is my choice. I’m waiting for that special (and successful) guy. I also don’t like older men very much, so at this point, it’s a bit of a waiting game for the guys my age to establish themselves and become successful. Of course, I’m busy establishing myself as well. I don’t want to marry until I’m 30 or so.

Just some food for thought.

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If you expect a woman to arouse your intellect then you should first wait to reach your mid twenties.

It also wouldn’t hurt to go out in the real world and get some.

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Asian girls who are 25 are the worst of the bunch – they act as if they’re 5. While out in public.

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This is a dangerous road. With women’s denigration being complete as claimed on ROK and seeing too many older women who are ugly with much younger men, women’s entitlement is through the roof. With male-heavy demographics in the west, is the future PUA game going to be some young stud dating lots of 40, 50 and 60 year old ugly women who are cheating on their partners, and the guy getting laid is ‘alpha’? Consider the cases below from today:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2919685/Grandmother-61-brought-seven-children-benefits-wants-baby-toy-boy-lover-34-having-op-NHS-boost-sex-life.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2919566/Millionaire-matchmaker-perform-live-vagina-facial-Morning.html

Sadly, after seeing some of the women men are dating in the UK, I expect ugly womens’ expectations to go through the roof. Hurrah! Learn game so you can tap some old dry vag almost three times your age. Ugh….

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“Consider the cases below from today”

What in the world is going on in the UK? Are they some kind of race to see which country is the most degenerate: UK or US?

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Yes, and England’s winning!

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By the time women are in their late 20s a lot of them are already alpha-widows.

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Even so-called ‘good girls’ in med school who are attractive and girlfriend material (relatively speaking) can become narcissistic over time and/or become alpha widows/or they ARE the alpha in their mind. The problem is that the culture enables this, so until this changes, we will see more headstrong women with huge massive college debts who become whored out by their late twenties and/or alpha widows. I remember that half the girls in med school carried HUGE student debt. Most whored themselves out, then got a boyfriend who was doing well in class and/or rich to latch onto. Some dated drug dealers etc.. Not too many that looked like good long term material – I think there should be a Roosh or ROK post on which CAREERS (e.g. pharmacy) attract relatively better girls and which ones attract the worst (e.g. med school, law).

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Game is the only thing that works. I completed my masters degree recently and when girls ask me what I’m up to now I tell them I want to travel and do some freelance work for a while, which is true.
Even though I am way more educated than they are they still look down their nose at me though.
I feel like they basically just see me as either an entertaining clown, or a meal ticket, and I’m not interested in providing either. When I know that they are getting free scholarships for being women and shit like that I assume they are independent… They shouldn’t need me to give them free shit… But that is what they want… Seems like a big city phenomenon that either u are a dj or you give them
Money.
An individualistic male with his own dreams and vision has no place on the sexual market right now. Learn game and be a clown, or be an incel…

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This state of affairs will last 5 years before the west goes broke and the men have no jobs. So do they just enjoy the 5 years and then hold their shrunken penises as they die off? The way I see it, unfortunately, they will not prevail against what is loosely termed the ‘government’, not the way they are at the moment. I agree with what you say, its just that then what I said is the inevitable conclusion, with the timescale being possibly another extra few years at best. Then they just get sent down, unfortunately, ’cause I have seen who runs this place and the population are too weak and dependent to take that on, no matter what kind of spin the media gives the ‘elite’ to make them look weak and incompetent. Ironically, it is the third world countries like even China and perhaps India that come out best out of all this.

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If there is a draft, I will not die for the West… I will do everything I can to escape…

I wonder how many men would choose to sign up though…

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The ones that do will be retards and their deaths, lamentable as they would be, would serve to increase the IQ pool of the remaining men while skewing the gender balance in our favor.

Unlike WWII, it won’t be the masculine guys dying off, it will be the stupid ones.

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The men that will get the fuck out of dodge will be the minority i’m afraid

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What you have to come to grips with is that to most women you are barely human, you are a commodity. A hard pill to swallow even if it is Red. The best advice is to focus on what you want out of life. Most people are just trying to make a living instead of designing a life. Stay Focused.

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You prefer to date girls who are ten years younger than you instead of “Older women” age 25-30.. I think you sound very disordered! But then again, I am from Denmark, what can you expect;)

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He finds the girls between 18-25 the best for himself. He can get them.
In this article he described why he don’t want older than 25 women in EE.
So what’s the problem?

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Gotta be honest, 16-24 year olds are easier to get on with for long-term relationships. After that, you can assume 99% of women have had too much cock and its pointless to date them. I think asking the woman’s age is the most important screening question for me as to if we’d get along and whether I would bother making any kind of dating commitment to her.

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Can a woman who agrees with and is trying to understand your experience advocate for your cause? Is your cause merely to save the “patriarchy”? As an older woman who is trying to raise strong, intelligent, noble, self-sufficient, masculine, inquisitive, just but ambitious sons – I understand your frustration with older women who lack in character, sensitivity and emasculate men for their validation. I don’t want my son’s to end up with these women either. But are you trying to alienate all women from your discourse by failing to offer practical solutions? Roosh has written some articles about how women can have better interactions with “alpha” men but it mostly addressed appearance. It would be great to read about how can we also raise girls to be women of character? How are you raising your daughters to become women you respect?

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There are no easy practical solutions as children are shaped by their society and the beliefs that are imposed upon them – be a good parent, yet your children are still brought up by the TV, internet, society at large and peer pressure. Even more remote communities have internet and cable in second and sometimes third-world countries. Most of us here will not have children as we recognise that any future generation in western society has it bad and some of us do already. I think living in a town rather than a city helps, as well as more strict parenting at younger ages (regulate TV and internet). Still, bringing up children has always been a crapshoot, and these days it is actually the government (read: banksters) who are rearing children and the whole of society to be their dumbed-down slaves whom the banister chooses to destroy on a whim.

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Be pleasant and don’t be a whore.

A single one-night-stand, even the suspicion of one (and alpha males have the finest-tuned slut-radars in the world due to experience), immediately eliminates any worth the girl might have as a long term partner.

Anything except a sweet innocent little girl with a notch count close to zero, who dreams of love, and for whom sex is utterly intertwined with love, is settling. An alpha male has no reason to settle.

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Women should just be raised more strictly by their parents, and have a positive father figure who knows how to say “no”, who doesn’t treat them like little princesses, and who shows them what are the traits of a quality man. They should learn to be self-reliant, to be educated and respectful of others, not to be whores, not to be slutty, not to be nightclub addicts. It really shouldn’t be that difficult, in a healthy society…

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It is so refreshing to hear constructive ideas and I think we should all focus our energy in creating a healthy society. What is a healthy society? What does it look and feel like?

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I have in mind my parent’s society when I say that. I’m almost 30 and european so I’m talking about the balanced european societies that emerged in most europe during the 30 years after WWII. It’s sad to say, but too much money and luxury create horrible human beings, while disasters and sudden poverty create better human beings, with higher moral standards and more willingness to work for a collective cause and cooperate. that’s why I don’t fear the decline of the West: I know that, after some bleak years, a better society will emerge from the ruins.

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We, humans, do grow through struggle. On a different note, Roosh said his readers are intelligent and I agree. His writing is provocative, controversial but also genuine. However, when I try to ask my friends to read it they basically tell me- “what the hell are you thinking? ” Basically, thanks for responding with thought and respect. A lot of comments are ignorant and mean.

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you’re welcome. and I agree, there’s too much anger and frustration going on in the so-called “manosphere”, but after all it’s obvious. the men you meet in this part of the net are men who have realized their idea of a great life has become unrealistic in today’s world and that so many people lied to them. it takes some time to recover and find a new meaning in life (and some of them never even will).

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Haha was my comment just deleted? Now you seem even more disturbed:) I would not date you at any age and neither would any of my friends, but then again, we are from Denmark;)

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Your comment is up there, published, and some users even replied to it.

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You’re deluded and paranoid, like every good danish feminazi cunt.

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That’s not very nice. She is only saying what Roosh says all the time about girls (in a far less offensive way). I wouldn’t date Roosh either, he looks and talks like a nutcase – it is so obvious that he has mental issues.

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I thank Roosh for being our guinea pig and reporting back.

Hope he didn’t have to suffer too much for it.

The reluctance to settle down of the young Central European women I knew when I lived over there was motivated more by their concerns about economic security and establishing a career than a desire to keep riding the carousels of single life in the big city. Americans may have a hard time imagining how coming of age in a time of extreme economic insecurity can be scarring. An entire generation had their degrees, work experience and indeed life savings made worthless almost overnight as these countries rejoined global turbo-capitalism. The children in these families couldn’t help but be shaped by that. I don’t blame the young women growing up in such a situation for trying to build their own experience so they would be able to depend on themselves.

I’d be interested to learn from Roosh about the reasons the older women that he experienced remained single so long.

My own hunch:

1. Too busy building an independent career.

2. Having too much fun riding the carousel of single life in the big city.

3. Leftover women who get passed over because of grave personality defects; abrasiveness, selfishness or other neuriticism, that make them incapable of maintaining relationships.

Maybe any of you could weight these factors based on your experience?

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Too much hamster in there.

Girls in Central Europe are not starving. They ride the carousel for the same reason English and American girls do: a hookup culture that was imported by the tens of thousands of emigrants.

Girls in Moldova are truly truly poor and I don’t see them fucking random dudes every weekend. Or go to some provincial parts of Russia, where women have practically nothing. And I don’t see them going to clubs twice per week and juggling fuckbuddies from same-night-lays with no commitment or connection.

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When I went to study for an entire degree program in Central Europe, I was amazed how different things were from my Washington, DC university where I did my first degree.
At the European University, there wasn’t really the shallow “hookup” culture like in DC. Everybody had an established long term relationship – even if perhaps only serially monogamous. Of course my experience is based on a sample size of one, but it’s perhaps enough evidence for me to believe and assert that the young European women have a different dating style than their Yank cousins.

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Way too much hamster-talk.
I live in Poland now having moved from the West. Girls are not starving – these are not the poor 1990s. Any girl can move to London if she chooses to and most girls can easily find less exciting, but highly promising intelligent Beta men who will make a career for sure. The girls are simply not interested in them – they are comfortable enough to ride the carousel, fuck guys like me and leave all those boring men with potential waiting on the side-lines. The thing is that due to demographics many of those men don’t need to wait for them to come around at age 28. They just pair off with less hot girls.
Economics contribute to the fact that the women don’t ride the carousel until 30-35, but instead to 26-28, but that is not much of an improvement. I already met completely crazy and deluded 26-year-olds in Poland.
As women collect dicks, they equally start collecting shit and carry that bag of shit around forever. They are not men after all.

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Pretty much completely mirrors my experience with dating women over 30 (I’m 38) the two years I’ve been living in Bulgaria.
I’ve relied too much on online dating, and since it’s mostly been very difficult to even get replies from women under 30 I’ve been going out with way too many women over 30 (a substantial part of them “career” women, often with some travel experience – they are usually the ones with the best English skills, so they are the ones who have been easiest to hook online. Working harder on my Bulgarian now).

And unless they’ve been single mothers or widows – had one of the latter and a few of the former – I’ve had no luck getting them into bed, though I have gotten better at showing my intentions (I’ve given up on trying to put on a provider show, I could never pull it off convincingly anyway, and didn’t much care for faking it) so I now usually get disqualified for a second date instead of being dragged through a few more that go nowhere.

The few women in their mid 20s here I have managed to meet through online dating, made the road to sex on the second or third date relatively easy. Those in their late 20s have been a bit more unpredictable.

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Fuck provider game. Women have screwed themselves by their dating choices over decades, but what the hey, its too late to fix it now. Why bother dating any woman over thirty? Unless its your long-term partner/wife? Single women over thirty are single for a reason, they also probably like it, so you date (and rarely) commit to the ones you meet in their early twenties at latest, and you casually date the rest, which is what the women want based on their hidden dating history and how this comes out in their behaviour.

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The reason for me has been laziness – choosing online dating (where getting responses from girls more than 8-10 younger, even here in EE, is pretty rare for me) the last couple of years over night game (had a few successes here in Bulgaria in clubs, but I just haven’t enjoyed going out regularly since my mid 20s) or daygame.
Daygame is what I’m now trying to transition into, as it seems like the only truly viable way forward for me to get what I want. Which is obviously younger and hotter.

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Go do day game cold approaches.

How much do you spend/month to live in Bulgaria?

Does Sofia have the hottest girls or are hot girls in crapville as well?

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Lots of attractive and hot girls out and around here in Sofia during daytime as far as I’m concerned – both in the center and elsewhere in the city – but noticing the proclaimed choosiness among many guys on the RV forum, I’m sure some would disagree and say there are too many 5s and too few 8s and 9s.
The attitude of most girls here is generally friendly and fairly or very open, although despite everyone younger than mid 30s or so supposedly have learned English in school, you will still meet many who aren’t conversational – or claim they don’t speak any English at all (I’m sure that has probably just been used as an easy rejection on me sometimes in clubs).

Monthly base expenses for me – in a decent and not particularly cheap apartment, no car – are 1500 leva, around 890 USD.

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Brush up on online Game. You need to put the profile at age 30. When you meet you just say the girl, that you put your age lower, because if you didn’t then all those old chicks would be sending you texts and who would want that? (Do a little shiver move as if that is terrible). That little routine is by Fisto by the way. The Swooptheworld crew has some decent stuff for online Game.

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It’s all downhill for women after their 26th birthday.

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If you like long-term relationships, I’d say you MEET them at 16-22/23 (16 is legal in UK). After that it looks bad and at some point she’s gonna leave and take your shit too, with her ultimate protector, government, looking after her.

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>It’s all downhill for women after their 26th birthday.

http://i.imgbox.com/oVsowvhP.jpg

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What? Are you kidding me? Men age like wine? Yes, receding hair, miserable attitude and a pot belly is so sexy (obviously this doesn’t matter if you have grown old with them)! Last time I checked, we all get old and lose our looks (some exceptions). I will stick with my boyfriend who is only 4 years older than me and has the body of an athlete – thanks wink

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Men age like wine?

Yes, and you are just a woman, woman *tick tock*

I will stick with my boyfriend who is only 4 years older

…but maybe he won’t stick with you. After all you’re only 4 years younger *tick tock*

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When you hit forty, the 25-30 age bracket will be your 20-25 now. Then try sleeping with the 35-40 years olds to discover hell. LOL

Btw, Roosh your beard hair is greying rapidly. Do you have amalgam fillings? You’d look younger (and better) if you shave the beard off.

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I have maybe 2 or 3 metal fillings. The greying started 5 years ago and accumulated enough to where it’s pretty noticeable now. It doesn’t bother me.

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The reason they are single at 30 is because they have been riding the carousel their whole youth.

Poland, and many EE countries outside of the FSU, are full-swing carousel nations. It is not a matter of standards, these girls could meet Brad Pitt at age 24 and they still wouldn’t marry. The trend is that women are delaying the jump-off. 10 years ago in Poland the carousel would stop the second she graduated at 23-24. Now, it has been delayed until at least 29-30.

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I think it’s more 26-28, but whatever the age, the delay is indedd growing as we speak.

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I’m so disgusted by sluts who have ridden the cock carousel into their 30s. I’m Australian and this gross morbidly obese land whale media personality Chrissie Swan has just come out and bragged about riding the carousel. As much as Roosh complains about American women, Australian women are far worse. And then some mid 40s slut has just come out and bragged about shagging cricketer Shane Warne on Tinder, and being spanked.. does she not even care about how embarrassing this is for her children? Australian women have NO shame, they are all fame whores!

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Haha yea it’s pretty bad down here. I’d even say UK and American guys have it easier than us.

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Good thing Australian men are rated very highly overseas. There’s a reason so many blokes go travelling.

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Roosh, I agree that most older chicks that are single are single for a reason. But young chicks just annoy the hell out of me. They don’t know a thing about life. The bullshit that comes out of their mouths, especially when they are drunk, just makes me want to shoot myself! They are also on their Iphones 24/7, which I find to be one of the biggest turn offs there is… how do you put up with it?? My girl is a bit older, but she is part Ukrainian, which as you know is a good thing!

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They are also obsessed with mindless Kim Kardashian type shit, they worship dumb sluts. How on earth is she going to be a ‘pleasant girlfriend’, to use your terminology?

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During my first trip to Poland, it was tough to find a single woman
older than 25 in the club, but something happened in the proceeding
three years to where the the night scene is now full of them. I
regularly witness a consistent flow of older women (ages 25-30) who
failed to find a man during their prime and is looking for a handsome
prince to sweep them off their feet.

Hmm… yup. As I suspected.
http://www.census.gov/population/international/data/idb/region.php?N=%20Results%20&T=12&A=separate&RT=0&Y=2015&R=-1&C=PL

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Roosh, where would you place the South American women aged 25-29, given your experience there?

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Same thing.

When you think of Brazilian women you don’t exactly think of chastity, do you?

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I don’t, but I would say a lot of them are fit for short term relationships, in my experience. A lot of them are pleasant and feminine. The instability is somewhat there, but in most cases only becomes unbearable by the time the girl is very close to 30.

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Sure, but what you say is just as applicable to the Polish girls Roosh is talking about. If you just want to fuck her then great, but chaste she is not.

I believe that it is a mistake to invest yourself emotionally into a slut. Players eventually learn this the hard way. There is a reason why every civilization in history has considered sluts utterly undesirable as human partners.

But if you just want to fuck then things can work. Expectations are key, anything more than 3 or 4 bangs without any emotional connection is getting in too deep.

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Roosh, I see you’re sticking to your logic & philosophy from 3-4 years ago when you were 31-32. Bravo. (I wish you would have continued on with this piece about 10x more BTW) …

I empathize with you on this topic & agree with the beneficial reasons you presented in the opening, but as I get older, my scale moves too. Ultimately I would like to hitch my wagon to a 24-25 y.o. when I am 40-41.

Remember men. You age like a wine until about 55. Women age like cars & flowers. Think of yourself as a “stock-market” … every day, your stock slowly rises through your 20’s, 30’s & 40′ …. Just don’t sell your stock too short.

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I date younger women because females age faster than men. They mature a lot faster not only physically, but mentally too… & nature is not kind to women like it is men. In USA, women that are 30+ are nasty to be around. They grow meaner as those crows feet appear on their faces & their bellys grow fatter. They are unpleasant to be around in many ways. I detest American women aged 30-35. They still think they’re

It is natural for a 31 year-old man to be attracted to a girl that is 19-27. It is a law of nature, really. & in many EE countries, 19 year-old girls carry themselves differently than in the USA. They are street-smart, mature & very sexy. My current roommate is a 19 year-old girl from Ukraine & she is world smart from the hard-knocks she came-up from.

They want a man for his maturity & experience of an older age. They appreciate you as their leader & they will respect you as a figure of both strength & stability.

I empathize with you on this topic & agree with the beneficial reasons you presented in the opening, but as I get older, my scale moves too. Not too much, but some. Ultimately I would like to hitch my wagon to a 24-25 y.o. when I am 40-41.

Remember men. You age like a wine until about 55. Women age like cars & flowers. Think of yourself as a “stock-market” … every day, your stock slowly rises through your 20’s, 30’s & 40′ …. Just don’t sell your stock too short.

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My personal philosophy after dating a 30 ear old Polish girl for a year, is that if a woman is single over the age of 25, it is for good reasons… Too many dicks, maybe, or her expectations and evaluation of her own worth as a woman is too high, or undiagnosed mental illness, or laziness that prevents her from being the best possible version of herself, or just plain old emotional baggage that added up after one too many failed relationships.

Past 25, all of that stuff hits the J curve and makes a woman who might have been tolerable when she was younger undateable. The ones who are dateable, are already dating or married. In my girl’s case, she was cute, but she’d been with 20+ guys – most of them foreigners – and was bipolar.

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I remember, after spending a lot of time in the FSU, I spent two months in Poland swayed by Roosh’s recently published book.

According to what he mentions in that book, they sounded like classicaly K-selected girls who wanted marriage. For the first month I treated them like Russian girls, and I utterly crashed and burned. I think I dated like 6 girls and NONE of them went anywhere. The second month I adapted, ran Western game, and recuperated.

Roosh portrayed himself as the genius player who made sweet chaste girls come out of their shell. It wasn’t like that at all, and it turns out it was an intense hookup culture where girls fucked as much as in Scandinavia. They had the same mindset and way of viewing the world as in Scandinavia, but this was obfuscated by their apparent sweetness. It was a classic careerist “I don’t want a relationship” casual sex culture. An inherent part of the girls’ mindset. The absolute opposite of what was in the FSU, where casual sex was incredibly rare and every girl wanted a relationship.

I found the same to be true in other EU countries in Eastern Europe, and although I have no visited all, I think it is safe to say that the carousel is present and fully alive in ALL European Union countries. I cannot speak on the Yugoslavian countries because I have not been there, but I have heard ONS are not unheard of so I am skeptical. For now, it seem that the FSU is the only remaining place with quality women.

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I seem to be having a similar experience out here in Asia. How’s this for a boner killing comment from a 35 yr old ex catwalk model I recently was on a date with in Jakarta:

“Oh I can’t make it to [nightclub party I hadn’t invited her to] tomorrow night as I have to work at the fashion show…However if I can get someone to cover me then I can come. But could you give me the money I am then missing out on if I get someone to cover me?…”

I told her thanks but no thanks, then later told her it wasnt going to work out between us. She still showed up at the party anyway, and also thought she could just walk in onto our table like she owned it…

So I had security kick her off… smile

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“An available Eastern European girl who is 30 years old is equivalent to a 40-year-old American woman ”

Eastern European women hit the wall harder and sooner than most other ethnicities in other parts of the World.

“While younger women take more game, more effort, and a higher tolerance for bullshit, the rewards are far greater, because the relationship is more pleasing to my boner. She also doesn’t see me as a marriage parachute before hitting the dreaded 30. This is a shame because I expect an exploding population of yoga-practicing older women to hit European streets in the next ten years, but I can clearly see them as the damaged goods that they are. I rather work my ass off for something younger.”

A logicial consequence of the smartphone / social media wasteland we are living in. The disease is hitting all females across the board of all ages. Unöess it stops in america, in 10 years we will see in europe fat grandmas in thei 40’s at the night clubs hitting on men young enough to be her son.

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“Eastern European women hit the wall harder and sooner than most other ethnicities in other parts of the World.”

false. I’d say women who age best are, in order, japs, southern europeans and eastern europeans. I’m a european who has lived and worked between EE and SE for 30 years so I think I know this.
the worst aging women I’ve seen have been scandinavians, brits, northern europeans in general, and americans.

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I concur. I have had my fair share of birds in Belarus/Ukraine/Russia and anyone on the wrong side of 28 is indeed damaged goods. They fall into either of these categories (non exclusive):

1) Flawed unbearable character, impossible to live with for any period of time
2) Narcissistic eccentric entitled personality
3) Unrealistic expectations

4) Loose morals

(1) and (2) being the most common occurrence I have encountered.

30+ birds are, literally, untouchable marriage material for the locals in the 3 countries mentioned above. They end up fuck toys for married men, or providers for deadbeat lowlives.

They are easy pickings for foreign men. Still, highly damaged goods. Good for one or two shags but no more. You’re way better off with the younger ones.

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Not just over there… those categories apply to 25+ y.o. American women as well.

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I barely even take girls over 22 seriously. I guess there are exceptions to the rule, but the younger…the better. They are less tainted, less bitter about their experiences (havent had as many) and overall more youthful. In my view, youre either the loveable cad that fucks them and builds that eventual resentment in them. OR you’re that guy trying to fuck them 5 years later. When they are 27 and have a laundry list of things they do and dont want…all based on their memory of the carefree fucking and consequent emotional pain they felt as guys didn’t commit to them. Now YOU get to be the guy who “isn’t like” all those fun guys she fucked with complete passionate abandon. Sweet deal huh? Wake up folks!

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Older women at that age range are just desperate to want babies. If you don’t want them, just stay away from them.

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you know you don’t have game when women in war torn countries would rather stay in poverty than be with an asshat like roosh. Doesn’t anyone see the irony in how much this guy tries to act like he is better than women yet spends his life obsessing over them? Focus on your career, your hobbies, being happy. IF women are so bad, then stop desperately chasing them. Leave women to deal with actual men. But of course it makes total sense that EVERY SINGLE WOMAN today is the “problem” but himself. I sincerely hope my daughter never meets him or one of his follows- though they’d probably be more interested in butt slappin’ each other than actually being respectful to the opposite sex…

the reality is, i am almost certain this guy -and his followers- are closet gay. its where most misogyny stems from. or maybe you just need a hug from your mum. its ok, roosh. your mum might still love you.

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You should see them at 30-35 Roosh. Desperation written all over their face.

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Still though, nothing would stop me from tryen to hook-up with the foxy woman in the photo above for this topic

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I started dating my husband at age 22, married him at 25. He’s 7 years older than me. I was a virgin, we had a son, I’m 5’7″ and weigh 110 lbs. I am 30 now and my husband is bored of me. I’m pretty sure he’s thinking about cheating on me, if he’s not already doing it. Says he thinks I’m beautiful but just not interested in sex with me anymore. I did everything like how my parents told me to do. I cook, I clean, I look good, I keep a good job and I have no male friends. I regret my decision to marry young SO MUCH. I wish I had screwed around in my 20s. Hindsight 20/20, This is not worth it.

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6/10 attempt. You had me until “I keep a good job”

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How generous of you. My attempt was 0/10. I did it all wrong. I was a doormat. Step all over me and I won’t move an inch. Here’s my bitter red pill – the other day I didn’t rush home to make dinner like I usually would. I wasn’t home before he was. And for the first time in months, he paid attention to me. I stopped pleading, I act aloof, and he paid attention to me. Showing up smiling, looking sexy and thin and fresh is not enough to keep a man. I had to RUN GAME to keep him, and that’s my red pill. Thank you Roosh.

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You are an asshole, roosh. You ignored everything(!) this woman said just because of this little “job” part. You are going to the extreme: from fighting for men’s rights you turned into a women-hater. This makes you as bad as SJWs and casts doubt on your statements because you are not objective anymore. You need to be unbiased, since it affects other people’s views as well as yours.If someone wants to do be financially independent, maybe help family or just not to be bored at home (because it really is boring to stay at home for a housewife), it doesn’t mean this person is a SJW or whoever. You stop developing when you stop listening to other opinions and stop doubting yourself. What was the last time you thought “maybe there really is something about it that I’m missing”?

Don’t be a dickhole and give this woman an opinion on what do you think she should do. Helping other people is nicer than you think, even if they don’t have a penis.

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Helping other people is nicer than you think,

lol, now some troll wants to chicksplain to us what Roosh thinks? Yes, please, enlighten us on Roosh’s thought bubbles.

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the job is the part that ruined it, right?

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once u turn into a slut, dont expect to ever have a relationship that works! u cant turn a slut into a housewife!

its all speculation…. if u bust him…its his lost where so many men would jump at a woman that has her head on right cause its so rare!

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You were a virgin when you had a son? Sounds like insufficiently varied cock is the last thing you should be worrying yourself about.

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This may be a troll, as in a fictitious post designed to stir excitement, but I see it as a representation of the female reasoning when you’re 20: If I marry now, as a virgin, I may end up lonely and frustrated at 30. If I get my kicks out now, I won’t have regrets later.

The rebuttal, of course, is that getting your kicks out now makes you unable to sustain the relationship you think you’ll find later.

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I wish I’m just trolling, but this is my reality. I’m here reading this site, I’m reading everything that I can find on the internet. What is my husband thinking? What does he want? How do I get him to turnaround? Be 25 years old or younger… that’s how.

I’m at the wrong place, I know. I’ll shut the f up now.

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If you’re seriously telling the truth, and seriously seeking answers, then you should know you need help from someone with a deeper understanding of your personalities.

The point Roosh, et al, are making is that you didn’t miss out on anything by marrying as a virgin. Doing so doesn’t guarantee success, but the converse, that slutting it up before marriage increases the likelihood of failure, is definitely true.

Look on the bright side: Should you get divorced, you’ll have plenty of opportunities to have wild casual sex when you’re single. You didn’t miss anything.

Here’s some radical advice: Encourage him to go fuck 22 year olds. Believe it or not, you won’t lose him, especially if the home you provide is as comfortable as you say it is. He isn’t going to jump to some unknown, and he’ll probably think you’re amazing for not being possessive.

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The answer also depends on what country Rachel is from. The only reason I bring this up is because “bored of me” and “I wish I’m just” are not really how we phrase things in North American English.

Also if she really came from a conservative, traditional family than nobody in her circle would have considered her “young” for getting married at 25. Young? Last month I went out with a flyover hick 31 y/o MILF who was married at 17.

Rachel didn’t actually say she was a virgin when she married, but if so than her high-SMV husband was a saint for not banging her (or anyone else, right?) over a THREE YEAR courtship.

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The OP is not concerned with solutions or actionable advice. (Stop mansplaining, cishet logipressor!)

It merely craves attention and validation.

Also interesting:

http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2012/06/guide-to-birdwatching-in-manosphere.html

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Good points.

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Interesting, it could be the story of my ex-wife, but it lacks some important details and need some modifications:
“We had two childs”
“I developed no-fault complex and a strong tendency to scream against my husband in order to end every argument in my favor”
“I developed hyper-criticism against my husband and weird ideas about education of our childs, and I tried to impose my idiocy with screams”
“I developed and expanded my natural compulsory shopping tendency”
“I tried to use sexuality – i.e. female inferior sex drive – as a weapon against my husband: that was my last – and worst – move: he mocked me, starting to not search sex from me, and every time I asked him for it – quite humiliating for a precious woman as I’m – he fucked me regularly and I reached orgasm but he didn’t reach it: by this way he demonstrated me that he had full control on his body and mind, and I’m just only a weak female – on the long run I was psychologically destroyed by that”
See? Now the version is complete! smile

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Poland is a special case in so far that back from a few years ago the population from the baby boom of the 1980s became older and most of them are now 25+. You are right however about their reasons for not getting married.

I too find the best girls for Game to be the 18-25 crowd – they carry less shit around, are less jaded, are a lot hotter, enjoy sex more & are easier to bed (or better put faster, though it’s tougher in aggregate). Still it is preferable to get 5 rejections by younger girls instead of wasting 5 dates on a delusional bitter 30yo.

By the time this Indian specimen turns 25 and her notch-count hits 1000 I pity the Beta provider she is looking for by then: (NSFW) http://www.worldstaruncut.com/uncut/76997

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Are ‘Rachel’ and ‘Noemin’ in the comments here for real? What is this all of a sudden?

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Find ones who just got divorced, Roosh.

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I don’t know who Roosh is, but you guys sound like you need some serious intervention in your outlook on the world. You complain about the quality of women that you attract, and then you blame her for not being up to your standards. What kind of girl wants a guy who focuses his life on ‘the game’ ? It will be the kind of women you are complaining about. If you would focus more on becoming a decent guy.. you will attract a decent girl. That holds true in every country on the planet. No girl want’s an insecure, sex crazed alpha wannabee who’s number one focus is to manipulate girls into bed. If you consistently get girls who are a mess, have issues, and are immature.. the problem is you, moron.

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Ok, I did some reading on Roosh, and watched his appearance on that Ukrainian TV show. Ha Haaaaa I can’t believe you look up to this guy who had to leave the country to get laid.

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I do it too. It’s because the quality abroad of the Asian, Latino & Slavic female is far higher in every category vs. the Angelo-Saxon counterpart. But good luck with your Yankee female & her generous proportions, “Dave”.

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“No girl want’s an insecure, sex crazed alpha wannabee who’s number one focus is to manipulate girls into bed.”
Insecure = / = Alpha
I had more than 100 women in my life, not bad considering I was also married for 13.5 years (and I didn’t cheat during marriage!). I like women whom are a mess: they’re the best ones at fellatio. I don’t like “decent” women: they’re good at divorce-rape men. I avoided a divorce-rape, and I’m currently f*****g the female lawyer who was my attorney in my divorce. No more marriage, no more cohabitation, just only messy and perverted women for me! smile

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Sounds good Eric. I’m sorry your ex hurt you. It’s all gonna be alright.

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Meh, she doesn’t get alimonies, just only money for childs, and she’s currently alone.
I have unserious relationships with two women. Last Christmas she invited me, she’s trying to catch me again, but for me trustness is lost (it’s not a problem of cheats: I didn’t cheated nor she did, problems are deeper) so I suggested to her to do some female sexual tourism in Africa smile

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They’re also single because local men are alcoholic wife beaters, it’s not always the women’s fault take a look at some of the older dudes around: unemployed and drunk all day

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.hello im old single man from egypt my name is mahmoud abd elhai im 40 year ilooking for marriage old woman her age45-70 year ilooking for love contact me my mobil number 00201270455282