My Firsthand Experience With Thirst

By the third week of my recent DC visit, I fully internalized the horror that became of the city’s night scene. While there were glimpses of pretty girls if you happened to step foot in the right bar on the right day at the right hour, there definitely was a decrease in attractive women who were open to being approached or even capable of having a conversation with a new man. It didn’t help that there was an increase in large mixed-set groups that were hostile to strangers.

On a Friday night a friend and I bar hopped to find a venue that was tolerable. Our fourth try was successful—we found a rooftop bar where the ratio was 1:1. I was actually getting eye contact from most of the women present, an early Christmas miracle in DC. Even though the scene was worse than what I was used to in Eastern Europe, I couldn’t contain my excitement, and it didn’t take long for a petite girl to give me unambiguous eye contact. I approached her without difficulty.

Now I must state that her hair was short, barely reaching the bottom of her neck. I like to think of myself as having low thirst, but DC is a harsh environment and I had few pans simmering on the stove. I decided to be a touch looser with my standards.

Her face was plain and pale, without any makeup, but it was symmetrical and free of deformities. The best part was her body. In a city of mostly overweight people, she was tiny, on par to what I am used to in Eastern Europe. It also helped that she was young (23). I decided to pursue the interaction with full vigor.

There was some natural chemistry between us, helped by our “foreign” status, with her being from England and me a tourist in my own city. My clown game was received well and I successfully passed her tests of my masculinity. For example, she asked me what I did for a living. I replied, “I don’t mean to be rude, but I can’t talk about it.”

“Are you some type of spy?” she asked.

“That’s not something I can talk about.”

“If you don’t tell me what you do, I’m going to leave.”

“You are a free woman and so can do what you wish, but unfortunately I am unable to share details of my employment with someone I hardly know and don’t yet trust. What do you do?”

The matter was dropped with me gaining value in her eyes as a possible criminal or secret government agent.

Another test she dropped on me was, “I can’t kiss you in public.” After accessing my memory stores for the optimum answer based on 13 years of running game, I replied with, “Don’t flatter yourself. I don’t want to kiss you.” This only encouraged her further and she attempted to tease me by narrowing the space between us. By the time we hit one hour of interaction time, I felt like I was playing a video game, with hurdles that were not especially hard but nonetheless required some quick thinking.

An additional test was when she inquired what I wanted to do at the moment. “Do you want to have sex?” she asked.

I said, “Sex? No I just want to go for a walk. I don’t like crowded places. Why don’t we step outside for a few minutes and then come back?”

“Okay but I have to tell my friends. I won’t take my jacket so we’re forced to come back.”

“You are free to come back, but it is a little bit chilly outside so it would be a shame if you caught a cold.”

“You’re right, I’ll take my jacket.”

We walked to a quiet bar where things got more intimate. My boner was operating at warp speed power and I was indeed ready to have sex. As if reading my mind, she said, “I’m unable to have sex tonight.”

“Unable” is a very specific word. “So you’re on your period,” I replied.

“Yes! How did you know?”

Instinct, young girl, instinct. I gave her my whole “I’ll drink the blood” spiel but she didn’t seem too keen, and for the first time in my life I seriously wondered if I really wanted to fuck a hole that was bloody. Instead, she suggested we “cuddle” at my apartment. Was this plausible deniability for her to bang me or did she really want to cuddle? There was only one way to find out, but before we left for my apartment, she said a couple things which gave me pause.

“Right now I just want to have fun since I’m young,” she said, “but one day I want to fall in love and make babies.”

My brain’s response: “She is on the cock centrifuge. When she’s tired of getting stuffed by men who don’t want to have a relationship with her, she will ensnare a hopeless dweeb. At least we’re in line to be one of the random cocks.”

My response to her: “I think it’s important to explore your sexuality while you’re still young to find out what you want out of life before you make any large commitments.”

She said: “I am a feminist. Like, there is still the wage gap issue where women make only 77% of men.”

My brain’s response: “We’re selling out if we don’t object to this, but then again that body is nice.”

My response to her: “I see.”

She said: “The problem with guys these days is that they are too nice. They don’t know how to be aggressive. They don’t know how to read body language or know when a girl really wants to do more.”

My brain’s response: “Give her a fake number, fake job, fake everything!”

My response to her: “A lot of people these days have lost sexual instinct, both women and men.”

I let the feminist remark slide. I did not object to it and I did not walk away, all because I was horny at that moment, strongly wanted to get laid, and was close to making it happen. It’s quite easy to make proclamations of not having sex with feminists when you’re in Eastern Europe and there aren’t any feminists around, but when you meet the feminist and she gives you a throbbing boner, those intellectual objections go out the window and you revert back to your animalistic state. My brain, however, would not let me get away with this act of hypocrisy before the night was over.

We took a taxi to my place and dare I say she was a bit affectionate, much more than a typical American girl. I’m not surprised because my experiences with British girls have not been so bad, and while my sample size is tiny, I like their sense of humor, their accent, and the ease at which they spread their legs.

My apartment was acceptable to her. She called it a “little bachelor pad,” the biggest compliment she gave me all night. She then made it clear where the interaction was going by grabbing me and kissing passionately. I grabbed a towel and said, “I will leave this beside the bed.” She let me take off her shirt and bra. She massaged my cock through my jeans and unbuckled my belt. Nine times out of ten with such de-robing, sex is going to occur. My brain geared up for this, but then she suddenly stopped and said, “No I can’t. I’m on my period. If we were lovers I would do it.” I tried to smooth talk my way into accessing her bloody vagina but it did not work. Then I moved to plan B by guiding her head to my crotch. She didn’t get the hint and tried to curl up next to me like she wanted to sleep. “Let’s cuddle,” she said.

She did not understand what it’s like to be a man and experience the sexual torture of being fully aroused while laying next to a half naked woman without any possibility of release. A decade prior, I would endure the night, get her number, and wait four days for a date, but I wanted an orgasm right then. I didn’t want a relationship with her and I didn’t want to date her. I also had already bought her one alcoholic beverage (ten dollar investment). There is nothing about her that is superior to my prior pussy average, and I do value a good night’s sleep more than a possibly future sexual encounter a few days later, with absolutely no guarantee she’d show up. So my brain made me say the following: “But your mouth isn’t bleeding.”

She exploded in anger, immediately getting dressed and calling me “weird.” She made a comment that she had been with “many guys” but not one said such a horrible thing. Telling her to “calm down” did quite the opposite, and she left abruptly. Stating my sexual needs in a crude manner caused her to lose all attraction she had for me. I shrugged my shoulders, masturbated, then had a pleasant slumber without any ache in my testicles, without any anxiety of having had sex with an emotional feminist who may have some slut guilt and revise the night’s events the morning after in front of the magistrate (or when she writes about it for

I wasn’t mad at this British girl. From her perspective, she did the right thing. She has tons of options in the city with men who will “cuddle” with her all night without caring if they get laid or not, who won’t request her delicate lips on his genitalia. There are men who will wait three or four dates to have sex with her, so I will be the first to admit that in DC she has high value. While she did have attraction for me, there was no reason to forgive my offensive wow-just-wow statement because the very next night she could find another man higher than me in attractiveness who makes her aroused and puts her sexual needs before his own.

In the end, I was disappointed in myself. I tolerated pronouncements that went against my values just so I could get laid, but both my behavior and hers were logical based on the environment we were in. The supply of pretty girls are lacking so a man will lower his standards. Guys are not lacking so a woman will raise hers, expecting a man to—more or less—be perfect, without making her feel uncomfortable at any point in the interaction.

I would fear living in DC for the long term, not just because it would decrease my overall happiness, but because of what it would reduce me to. After a night like this, I couldn’t help but recall what it has reduced me to in the past.

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  1. Kowalski July 4, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Well written but respectfully, when are you going to find your dignify and self respect? That whole scenario was painful to read.

    American women become invisible to American men for guys who spend time in non feminized cultures. Fuck, the above story would never happen to me because I’d be spending my energies on how to get back outta da USA.

    1. TJ July 4, 2014 at 10:37 am

      Put the same girl in Eastern Europe, S. America or SE Asia and she would be complaining that no foreign guys were trying to hit on her.

    2. Joshua July 4, 2014 at 10:39 am

      At least he didn’t settle for the cuddle.

    3. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:21 pm

      Considering this woman was British, I am not surprised she’d had ‘many lovers’. The problem is, the women here once used to be exactly what I’d like. Now they dress terribly, put on weight and have become androgynous cock-monsters. I mean, I my N count is low, so there is no point in dating these women for me, I would never wife a woman ever again, and even if it comes to ONS, I have to jump through hoops to get laid with someone that I don’t actually like. The vast majority of women here have morphed into this.

      I did notice that EE women and from other places were not as extreme as the above example, so unless I am going to date acceptable women in the 16-21 age range as their N count is lower and they aren’t so full of man-hate (getting rarer all the time to see due to demographics in many parts of Britain) I have to just LIVE overseas! The c0ck carousel actively encourages these days an explosion of supplicating betas and low quality women.

      Obviously this feminism experiment ends once the number of weak-willed betas and useless women reaches critical mass, at which point the banksters (governments) will enslave entire nations due to these useless fagg0ts. I’d say that in the UK we’re already there, but I don’t expect to see full blown totalitarianism until the US falls to it too, which will take another 10-15 years.

    4. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:39 pm

      It doesn’t help that such women become invisible, for those who are forced to live in American culture for whatever reasons and hence have to interact with the low-quality drivel on offer.

  2. Roger Daily July 4, 2014 at 10:06 am

    I would have tried for a titty-fuck and/or a handjob, but your bit about her mouth not being bleeding is legendary.

    1. ATC July 4, 2014 at 10:56 am

      And this was not long after she told him, “The problem with guys these days is that they are too nice. They don’t know how to be aggressive.”

      1. A Life of Abundance July 4, 2014 at 11:50 am

        It goes to show you how utterly self-loathing the preponderance of American women are. They will say blatantly contradictory things while baking into the current dating zeitgeist bullshit memes like ‘rape culture’ which enable false accusations and accept as valid any rationale for why ‘consent may not have been truly given’.

        They will say and do anything to avoid responsibility, bottom line. Because they hate themselves, do not trust themselves, and cannot accept how miserable their lives are as they look back on how decisions they made of their own volition created their current misery. They just can’t deal with it. So they set up a feminist meta-environment in which everything they do will always be ‘a man’s fault’, no matter what.

      2. TJ July 5, 2014 at 3:40 am

        When you lack physical strength, creating cognitive dissonance in the mind of your enemies is very useful. Which is why women evolved that ability.

      3. Westsider December 5, 2017 at 6:01 pm

        Probably the most clarifying comment I’ve ever read on DCB or RooshV.

    2. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:27 pm

      When she said ‘are you a spy’

      You should have said:
      ‘I’m Jack Blower, I work with CTU, the cunt-teasing unit. This is going to be the longest day of my life..’

      Sorry. I just like saying the most absurd 5hit to women because I find it funny.

      1. Chris James P July 16, 2014 at 7:54 pm

        You gotta find the fun in life.

    3. anonymous July 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm

      n a city of mostly overweight people, she was tiny,

      The girl was likely too petite to have boobs. So titty-fuck was out of the picture.

    4. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 3:55 pm

      Btw, this is modern British women. Link is below. This 18 year old blew off 24 men in a club, sucking each one for like 3-4 sucks each, so she could win a ‘holiday’. Turns out, the ‘holiday’ is the name of a drink. This was common enough 10-15 years ago too,’cause I’ve seen it in the UK. These noble women of such great charm and virtue are allegedly the future of the white race. This is why patriarchy was invented – to prevent social collapse.

      1. black french July 5, 2014 at 2:54 am

        The only decent white chicks are FSU girls and I fear they will be all included in the EU sooner or later. Unfortunately, other races are following the lead. So this chick is the future of the whole human race.

      2. anon1 July 5, 2014 at 11:47 am

        Fair skinned south Americans too. Some light skinned Turkish and Persian girls too.

      3. Ashley August 3, 2014 at 7:55 pm

        agree. I have (bizarrely) slept with more Turkish girls in London than I have British. Persian girls I’ve found to be cliquey and inaccessible but very cute and feminine.

      4. anon1 July 5, 2014 at 11:48 am

        Yep as a Brit I laugh when Murica talks about its trashy women. We’ve got them beat

    5. Professor Jesus July 12, 2014 at 2:33 pm

      I live in DC. A cesspool of social decay. There are women with principles, but they don’t go out at night, nor should they, the bars and clubs are full of the lowest class and most worthless scum of the city. People need to be drinking so they don’t notice what assholes they really are and are surrounded by.

      A city full of 40 something women looking for someone to have IVF with. Full of 30 something women looking for a starter husband. Full of 20 something women looking to bone. In DC, it takes some time, but me and the boys find a couple of reliable restrooms to use and just hang out. It’s a great place to make money, have some good friends, jog or ride your bike on the waterfront. As far as the women go, make sure to put the toilet seat liner down before you relieve yourself here, these toilets get used by a lot of bisexuals with herpes & HIV.

    6. guest July 17, 2014 at 4:42 pm

      I would have just jerked off on her and spill my spunk all over her body…

  3. nameless July 4, 2014 at 10:14 am

    As a video game playing omega living in the USA, I don’t see the purpose of the long, painful process of leaving my basement and learning game if this is what I’m looking forward to. My genetic potential is likely lower than Roosh’s as well. I’m comfortable where I am.

    1. Roger Daily July 4, 2014 at 10:15 am

      Go to Asia.

    2. Ricky Vaughn July 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm

      Why don’t you get out of the basement and become a better man. Getting laid can wait and that’s a poor excuse to play vidya all day

      1. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:38 pm

        Being a better man has its own curses in this society. I am not against what you have said, but there is a negative consequence to bettering yourself in the western environment, and one day you might understand what I mean by this. I hope you remain fulfilled, but if you are ‘aware’ you will eventually reach this point.

      2. Ricky Vaughn July 4, 2014 at 8:01 pm

        You have to fight the good fight no matter the odds or the forces lined up against you. There is a reason despair is a sin.

    3. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:36 pm

      I don’t play videogames. I work hard at med school and hard to learn game and hard to be a better man for years. All of which have not helped me live a more fulfilling life as the society is f*cked. Which is why I’m leaving the UK as I have lived abroad in many places and know the situation is different elsewhere.

    4. GetItGoing July 6, 2014 at 10:41 am

      You have to look at the bigger picture. Improving yourself will affect you in other areas of your life and will benefit you in ways you dont yet understand.

      Ultimately even if you dont use ‘game’ you’ll be a better, mire desirable man who can get a higher quality woman and youll be more likely to reach your potential in life.

  4. A Life of Abundance July 4, 2014 at 10:17 am

    Great write-up, Roosh. Was with you every step of the way. My gut reaction was that you could’ve been more indifferent at certain points, that might have altered the outcome…which, of course, is not the point – but there was an air of deference in the ‘you are free to…’ responses and also that whole serious response ‘…explore your sexuality while you’re young…’ bit. It communicated a bit of ‘I’m really trying to get laid by you specifically, tonight – and am attached to that outcome’. Actually your ‘I see’ response to her feminist bullshit line was perfect. You just have to know at that point in the interaction – if you two do have sex, you’re going to have to go the kindness/gracious/’best wishes on your journey’ route afterwards. In other words, treat her like the Eat Pray Love wannabe chick and ‘validate her experience’. That’s imperative after banging a fuckin’ feminist.

  5. ATC July 4, 2014 at 10:32 am

    The purpose of Game is not to be “married” to a strategy but to find out what is currently working for naturally “succsexful” men, and imitate that.

    So if in DC 2014, that means being in large mixed sets, shouldn’t Game evolve into teaching guys how to join and be effective in large mixed-set social circles?

    Game in some ways has become a male-brained ideology – it means you are the red-pill hunter, that you flout convention. But the scene has evolved here. It is evolving even in places more hospitable to Roosh’s game. And anyway, we can’t all go overseas.

    To quote an old song: “people are still having sex” (even in DC or Toronto). So Game must find out how and adapt to whatever they’re doing.

    1. Joshua July 4, 2014 at 10:41 am

      These are usually groups of couples, girlfriends, gays, and beta orbiters. These groups are feminist dominated as a rule.
      A horrible horrible world for trying to bang.

      1. ATC July 4, 2014 at 10:48 am

        The girls in these large sets are still attractive (Roosh implies he tried to open them), so it’s still worth it to figure out what kind of guy they fuck in 2014.

        If it’s not a cocky, funny guy who opens sets, that’s fine.

        If hypothetically they were fucking Chris Gethard-type herbs, then Game needs to evolve to teaching men to act like a faggy SWPL. Pragmatism above ideology.

      2. Joshua July 4, 2014 at 10:57 am

        The most masculine beta orbiter gets to be a fuck buddy. He’s supplemented with ONS’s, guys in other towns, and possibly a secondary fuck buddy. The betas all know this and are angling hard to be that secondary fuck buddy on any particular night. The girls in these situations are horny and DTF, but they fear the slut label, as they’re probably dibsing the betas for eventual enslavement. If you’ve got solid looks and confidence it’s a winnable situation but it’s a bad call if you’re looking for results. These are groups of hometown or school friends or perhaps coworkers- groups of blue pillers perpetually strengthening each other’s blue pill frames

      3. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:59 pm

        Is he masculine? Or just a man with muscles or ‘fronting’/media-version of masculinity? I don’t meet masculine men too often in the West any more.

      4. Black French July 5, 2014 at 4:14 am

        My dear friend,
        Men with muscles have higher testosterone levels and testosterone is linked with masculine behavior.

      5. anonymous July 4, 2014 at 3:33 pm

        ATC — that’s nice in theory. But ‘progratism’ requires that the process be practical.

        What would you have Roosh do — take up a new Farragut Square office-drone job every 3 months, just to find cubicle drinking buddies, so he can be in a mixed group every Thursday?

        Maybe he should join a kickball league, and pray that he winds up on a team that’s not mostly chubby feminists?

        Or maybe you want him to join a Meetup group for Shenandoah Valley hikers, and invest dozens of hours for a prospective ‘mixed-group’ of one queen bee, three mediocre girls, and some tools and chump dudes?

    2. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 2:34 pm

      What’s a successful man?

      The only men who are successful with women are those running any variant of social circle game. Even then, the environment doesn’t favour 97% of men who’d have to spam approach to get acceptable women, compared to the effort and the quality of women they’d get in the past.

      The most successful me I see these days are egotistical government-whipped beta fagg0ts who have sold their own children and their own nation out for a bit of easy cash and pu$$y. This is the kind of ‘alpha’ that western society produces and rewards. This is no alpha, and he is mostways getting enslaved too.

      1. Jim July 6, 2014 at 2:00 pm

        Seriously do a more in depth write up of this while concept of government controlled half ass alpha males.

        It’s like 1984 in Murica now- can you imagine how awesome it must be to be a regular guy in Colombia or Poland? Those guys have it made in poonwonderland.

  6. DavidSNESGAMER July 4, 2014 at 10:52 am

    Game compared to a video game. This is very much how it feels after a few years:

    By the time we hit one hour of interaction time, I felt like I was
    playing a video game, with hurdles that were not especially hard but
    nonetheless required some quick thinking.

  7. yohami July 4, 2014 at 10:54 am

    “But your mouth isn’t bleeding.” is lame and you’re bending to her verbal frame instead of understanding her behavior: She wants sex. Tell her it’s going to be OK and act like it’s not a problem at all. Grab a few sheets or towels and put them under her and fuck her good. Or fuck her in the shower. Romance for her and orgasm for you.

    1. yohami July 4, 2014 at 10:56 am

      No girl goes to your place to “cuddle”. She’s there to give you an opportunity to fuck her. Saying that you’ll take her mouth instead means she made a mistake and that you’re an inferior man who wont push through obstacles to get what you want – hence she’s offended and wants out.

      1. Aurini July 4, 2014 at 12:05 pm

        Girls often change their minds, for the stupidest of reasons.

        Her mental process.
        “Oh, this is just like a date, where I get to have sex! But I’m bleeding so I can’t have sex – shut up, brain, I’m having fun doing the early portions! I want to have sex! No, I’m bleeding, I don’t want to have sex!”

        There was no barrier to be pushed through; she’s just an irresponsible idiot who allows herself to get into untenable situations.

      2. BatCountry July 4, 2014 at 5:32 pm

        Combine Roosh’s Agressive, pragmatical nature with Aurini’s intellect and you get Genghis Khan 2.0

      3. evilwhitemalempire July 5, 2014 at 5:12 am

        Fem cunt: “So what do you do?”
        Genghis Khan: “I’d rather not say in present company.”
        Fem cunt: “The problem with you men these days is that you’re too nice all the time.”
        Genghis Khan: “I raid villages and rape women.”
        Fem cunt: “But I’m on my period.”
        And so Genghis Khan walked back to his apartment to jerk off.

      4. anonymous July 4, 2014 at 10:48 pm

        Tell us more, keyboard warrior.

      5. scratche July 6, 2014 at 11:39 pm

        What’s wrong with wanting the mouth instead? Hell, more and more I wish I could get women to just give me head with nothing expected in return, that seems like the “alpha” thing to do. Let’s face it, the vagina of a strange woman can be dangerous and the mouth is less risky when it comes to STDs.

        Also, no way in hell was sex ever going to take place. Women don’t get pissed when a man asks for a blowjob if they truly want to have sex with that man. When a woman truly wants a man, that man can do no wrong. Look at all the women defending the “hot mugshot guy”, this is how women behave with men they truly desire.

    2. ladderff July 4, 2014 at 11:07 am

      what a fucking keyboard stallion.

      1. yohami July 4, 2014 at 11:13 am


      2. anonymous July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm

        As Roosh has said many times before, he pushes through period objections until the girl comes around and agrees to sex.

        But in this case, she was insistent about no sex.

      3. Hansel July 29, 2014 at 11:50 am

        Dude seriously? I am not a white knight by any means, but his comment was a little over the top. I immediately cringed when I read it. I don’t feel yohami’s comment is out of line.

  8. Ternarydemon July 4, 2014 at 11:47 am

    “Let’s cuddle,” she said.

    Ahh, the CuddleZone. It has happened to me. Attractive enough for a makeout but not for a fuck. Either you fucked it up, she really is not horny, hamster in overdrive, etc. Most likely, Slutguilt.

    Unlike the friendzone, you may escape the cuddlezone with good game, as she finds you somewhat attractive, but it may take 2 or 3 more dates. Attractive women deserve the investment, but not your average girl from a bar or tinder.

    1. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 3:11 pm

      Agreed, but only if she’s younger and attractive. If she’d make you wait but has had other guys in there on the first night many times before, you’d better off date younger for serious dating and go for the 22/23+ crowd for casual.

      Almost all of the men in the UK I know with long-term relationships met their partner/spouse in the 16-21 age range. ALWAYS. I don’t know who is seriously dating or wifing the older women, but one day they will have their relationships implode/discover they’ve been had.

      The future of long-term dating is women with low N counts (almost always NOT white women, unfortunately), women who do not drink or drink sparingly, and specific to the UK, social circles and women who are 16-21 when you first start dating them. Most UK women don’t get this once they are PAST that age and still think those options are open to them. I guess if they drastically lower their standards, and even then, their relationship is likely to implode as they get bored.

      PRO TIP: Only younger women get to have choice in who they keep over the long-term. Older women (22/23+) are just dry vaginas whose sole purpose in life is to be taxed.

      1. Ternarydemon July 4, 2014 at 4:53 pm

        From my travel exprience, the UK is a difficult dating market regarding local women: it still uses a class system, so the best women are on the top income percentile, and feminism, obesity, drugs, alcohol and tobacco don’t help the working class girls. Also, white anglo saxon genetics for women are among the best for 15-20 years but among the worst for 24+. A country for pump-dumping but not for a keeper, unles you are rich.

        Anyway, you may be cuddlezoned by any woman, and I agree with you that only the younger and attractive ones deserve further investment.

      2. Troy Francis July 6, 2014 at 4:34 pm

        I’m English. I live in London. Your point about social class is misleading. Many upper class girls are pigs. Many working class girls are gorgeous. There is no reliable correlation. In the UK, as everywhere else, SMV is the only game that truly matters.

  9. Michael July 4, 2014 at 12:02 pm

    Who is so offended by oral? oh wait feminists

    I really don’t think she wanted sex from the get go, even if she was on her period. She just wanted to check you out on a more personal level. you write:

    //“Right now I just want to have fun since I’m young,” she said, “but one day I want to fall in love and make babies.”

    I think that falling in love and making babies is on her mind at all is interesting, women who mention that on a first meeting bother me. Shes actually looking for a LTR, she is looking for a reason to ditch you. Hence going to your place then initiating sex then stopping. She wanted to make you beg for sex, so she would feel in control, she hates the idea of being a slut. Cuddling was just a test like training a dog to not eat the treat without a command.

    That’s my opinion.

    1. seth datta July 4, 2014 at 3:04 pm

      Since she’d ‘been with a lot of men’ (whatever that means), I find the fact she’d want kids and marriage amazing. Who wifes these useless women up? In fact, who marries these days, considering the hazards??

      She’s already at quarter-life crisis stage despite being 23 and the hamster is on full blast. High N counts + western women makes women craaazzzy.

    2. evilwhitemalempire July 5, 2014 at 5:27 am

      “That’s my opinion.”


      Not just yours.

      Still “Your mouth isn’t bleeding” is about the best line to end the thing.

      Only he should have said it much, much earlier.

  10. ATC July 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm

    Lea Michele is currently fucking a “dating coach” (actually a man-whore, but he told her “dating coach” which she apparently thought was cool).

    Sure, stay with the fake name “Burt,” but maybe your job title’s SMV is on the rise.

    1. bipolar alpha July 5, 2014 at 6:00 pm

      The your mouth isn’t bleeding comment at its root was really a test to establish who has the high ground and in this case ended in a draw.She had superior options(cock carousel) and roosh I believe at that moment
      was more anthropologist than horny guy.Its depressing watching how dysfunctional woman have become .If you observe woman walk in the states you notice they have a strut that signals confidence and entitlement.Guys kind of walk around in a lame or weak manner.Every lever of power is in firm control of feminists to control and abuse so at its core woman have become a vastly superior gender.And for anyone who believes the alpha fantasy its a highly perilous existence where armies of BETAS unite with leveraged western super feminists to destroy you emotionally socially financially physically.Elliot Randall types have wreaked havoc on the alpha fraternity.And feminists have destroyed some of the most powerful men in the world.Bill Clinton ,Clippers owner Sterling,Elliot Spitzer,the list goes on

  11. szaman July 4, 2014 at 1:00 pm

    The key moment in this story was obviously… but your mouth doesnt bleed. Now,i suspect your vibe during the whole date was rather on the serious side? Am i right roosh? Overall,seeing you on youtube my first impression is intellectual type,not really super cheerful. There are guys who smile and laugh ten times more than you.They set and command happy go lucky vibe. Burst some crazy shit,dominate her totally by making her laugh at her own period and nonfuckability.
    This way,you should have been able to score,perhaps.

    But! If your vibe was an inch too serious when suggesting a blowjob,case closed you lost.

    Either way,usually when a girl sets a cuddling mode directly, it kind of kills the sex aroma.

    You were going for the kill,hats off.bravo for that.
    Awesome chick would suck your friend and cuddle afterwards. There is a needle in femunists brains which forces them to attract conflicts with men.Point is,both man and woman cocreate the time spent together.
    She was too femicreepy or you were too manlypushy. Next please!

  12. Dario July 4, 2014 at 1:40 pm

    As you look back do you wish you hadn’t spent as much of your 20’s in DC?

    What are some of the best EE cities for game presently?

  13. Бай Хуй July 4, 2014 at 2:28 pm

    So she complained about men are not being aggressive enough and you offered her a blow job!!! I think you’ve lost a lot of readership with this post.

    On a slightly different note, it quite dangerous to stick your dick in a bleeding pussy. You risk serious infection. A woman is also more likely to pass on blood-borne diseases like HIV and hepatitis to a partner during her period, and she’s more likely to develop yeast or bacterial infections because the vagina’s pH during menstruation is less acidic.

  14. Prof. Ligatte July 4, 2014 at 2:33 pm

    Can confirm: much laughter had.

  15. Dead Vargas July 4, 2014 at 2:57 pm

    Demographics are a bitch.

    1. Ian July 6, 2014 at 4:05 am

      Truth. You players who live in good towns dont even comprehend what a weesh ass shit town can do to your game amd the best talent in weeshville is always 6 or 7.

  16. Ruckus July 4, 2014 at 5:04 pm

    A flat chested, short-haired, british girl in DC. Thank god I live in the southwest.

  17. Blue Tropic July 4, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    I think it’s wise to not contradict her beliefs and go with it until you fuck her, as long as you rip away your final victory over her. After defiling all of her holes bad you can tel her how stupid she and her beliefs are and toss her away like the garbage she is. This is my modus operandi with fems, it achieves more for me and hurts them more than just ditching them early when you’ve already made a time and energy investment in them and can be out late empty handed.

    In it to win it.

  18. Eric Khalifa July 5, 2014 at 12:44 am


  19. evilwhitemalempire July 5, 2014 at 4:53 am

    Period hell.
    She was obviously just leading you on.
    Don’t they teach about cock teasers at PUA university?

  20. J Cecil July 5, 2014 at 5:26 am

    Roosh I was looking at this data

    and remembered names of Countries you mentioned with good, caring, loyal women- Colombia, Poland, Brazil.

    If we had these kind of women like those Countries we could be saved from much misery all around. Men in those Countries have no clue how blessed they are to right off the bat find a loving, sweet, feminine woman as you have written before.

    Best wishes.

  21. Juan July 5, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    We can do whatever we want in this life, but if there is an afterlife, we are
    going to pay for it.

  22. johnathan blaze July 5, 2014 at 2:23 pm

    Great story.

    Since you had nothing to lose, you might have well just whipped your cock and started stroking it. If she didn’t help you out than she would probably just have left.

  23. Mike July 5, 2014 at 9:58 pm

    Roosh your stories are too real.

  24. Mr Willson July 6, 2014 at 12:54 am

    So you tried kicking some game, ended up getting salty that it didn’t get you laid on the first night, and blame it on the dudes that ARE getting laid? You must be the first dude ever to have a thought like that! Good thing you wrote this piece!

  25. Igniss July 6, 2014 at 3:19 am

    Perfectly described. The last paragraph really hits home.

  26. Ian July 6, 2014 at 4:03 am

    Grand Game Pimp Hustler Mac

    Will we ever see a “Bang Romania”?

    Ive been looking on Russian Cupid and the badest hos are posted up in Belarus and Romania IMO.

  27. Andu July 6, 2014 at 7:15 am

    Don’t be so harsh on yourself. Although I haven’t been yet in DC to know its ‘microclimate’, you seem to have displayed more value than what she’s used to. She accidentally admitted it: “She made a comment that she had been with “many guys” but not one said such a horrible(I would say: have balls to admit what they were there for) thing”. The problem was after this. You were filling with disgust and voma caused by what she said earlier. At start you choose to tolerate her bullshit so why didn’t you continue to do so ? Wouldn’t it have been better to hold her for a second to your chest, tell her: “please, don’t leave”, kiss her and re-engage later after she calmed down? Anyway, doesn’t matter now, what’s in the past stays there and you’re gonna have lots of better stories to tell here. I wouldn’t be surprised if she’ll see you again around she’ll approach you even though she burst in indignation out of the door by your undisguised, natural request.

  28. Lalitaditya Muktapida July 6, 2014 at 9:45 am

    Hostile mixed sets? Sounds like India to me.

  29. zaqan July 6, 2014 at 10:54 am

    I mean it is DC. What are you expecting? Government parasites and blacks. The only decent parts are probably the colleges.

    1. satch7 July 6, 2014 at 8:46 pm

      suck a black man dick you racist faggot

      1. MystiKasT July 7, 2014 at 11:57 am

        blacks ruin cities

    2. MystiKasT July 7, 2014 at 11:57 am

      he is right though

  30. zaqan July 6, 2014 at 10:59 am

    We need to have fat shaming week and get all these whales to stop it. My friends girlfriend has globs of fat hanging off of her and I really wonder about his sexuality. The worst part is that she wanted donuts and coffee. Its like she doesnt even care. She probably would be a bit cute with 100 lbs or so off, but all the fat people I know are just so lazy. They dont like to exercise, they love to eat. Oh but its a glandular metabolism problem. Gimme a break. Youre a lazy fat sloth and should be incinerated.

  31. scratche July 6, 2014 at 6:29 pm

    That was hilarious, I tried some blunt my-needs-before-her-needs before with a girl of higher value than me once and had pretty much the same thing happen. I could only laugh about it because the reality was she was trying to use me for entertainment purposes and she got pissed that I circumvented the bs and didn’t give a shit that she left. So I didn’t get laid, probably wasn’t going to happen anyway so I basically saved time and money – better to know sooner than later.

  32. walawala July 7, 2014 at 8:56 am

    Great post. I’ve been in a similar situation but early in the interaction. Throughout this it felt like you were in control but in reality she was leading the interaction. She initiated, you responded.
    A while back an ex ex ex gf contacted me out of the blue. She’d just broke up with her then bf and asked me if I would come over and “cuddle” but she didn’t want to bang.
    I told her: “I’m a man you’re a woman…that just won’t work.”
    Reading your post made me wonder…did I lose a change to bang this girl?

    But then again I DID bang this girl that’s why she was contacting me.

    But then again she was clear in what she wanted….or was she?

    So I blew her off like you did. I didn’t want to chance being put in a position of being “thirsty” or begging for it.
    We never did meet up. She told me that if she banged me she would “get crazy again”. Nice girl. But some girls are just so damaged that even if I had said “I want to try again….”—she would have seen me as pandering because during our relationship I was so dominant and dumped her.
    As for the “your mouth isn’t bleeding”… I also said something like this once. My now ex gf was claiming she was on her period. “So?” I said. She was claiming it would be messy…but something was up.

    “Do I need to start fucking other girls?” I said. We banged a few more times that night. There was no blood.

    We broke up two weeks after that.
    I have since been wondering…am I too much of an asshole? Did I push these women away?

    The answer is no. Girls will do what they want to do regardless of what you say.
    From your story that girl seemed to be playing you for attention, for validation, for fun. Perhaps as you point out this is a cautionary tale. Was this interaction doomed the minute you agreed to leave with her knowing what you knew.
    The last lines in your post sum up nicely the Sexual Market Value dynamic.

  33. DEB July 7, 2014 at 11:58 am

    Hey Roosh! Ban this Is address it’s McDonald’s Odessa 🙂

  34. PeterAndrewNolan July 7, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    And that story Roosh is why I never once tried to chat up an English woman while I was in the UK for 2 years.

    Even when I was in the UK I only talked to eastern european women.

    I could never live in the west again….99% of the populate hates me in the west. The men are worse man haters than the women. Then, of course, I am 50 so it is a bit different for me.

  35. Tom Dane July 8, 2014 at 7:14 am

    Imagine that one has to spit a combination of perfect game and clown game just to score a girl who is at best mediocre. On top of that she is, of course, an unpleasant feminist. Shit, why bother ?

  36. 20th Level July 8, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    LOL….that story played out like a Seinfeld episode. Since I live in the states I’ve been in the exact same situation many times where the girl blows out and you’re like “Oh well, see ya…!”

    With experience now though I have learned to play the situation differently. You have to treat the night like a marathon and not a sprint.

    I would have taken her to bed and we would fall asleep. After an hour or two when we are asleep in the bed I move in because she is relaxed and her subconcious kicks into boyfriend/girlfriend mode. She is used to middle of the night half asleep lovemaking with past boyfriends. Just keep getting her worked up and you won’t have to say a word because she is on autopilot and everything just ends up happening naturally.

  37. anon July 8, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    It really is sad that women don’t understand what it is like to be worked up hooking up and then have no concern or awareness as to how painful and awful it is to have blue balls. These women have enough smv that guys fawn all the fuck over them for whatever table scraps(cuddling) they can get that they never bother to learn about blue balls.

    I think you probably could have gotten jerked off at the least without saying something so obviously crass and being more subtle.

  38. Truth July 17, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    Modern women SOLD OUT on men for the Government.

    They are happy to use the Gov. as their new “Man” in life.

    Today’s men play second fiddle.

    Women have sold us out, why should we ever take them seriously again?

    They have played their hand and showed their true colors.

  39. Virtue July 17, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    Roosh, thanks for keeping it real, man. I laughed. And if you are this honest about DC, then maybe you’re really being honest about Eastern Europe. In which case I should get my ass over there as soon as possible.

  40. Rael July 28, 2014 at 3:45 pm

    I’ve been in similar situations once or twice. Here’s how I handled it. instead of making a smart remark like “but your mouth isn’t bleeding” which kind of reduces her to a hole, I said this … “I’d really like to cuddle with you all night but if I don’t have an orgasm my sexual instincts will probably make me do something stupid when I am half awake with a nearly naked beautiful woman in bed next to me. If we’re going to do this, I’m going to have to masturbate first.”
    The response has often been: “Is there something I can do to help?”

  41. AdventureCapitalist August 9, 2014 at 11:51 am

    Depressing lack of social skills and knowledge.
    One of the worst parts of a period for women is the pain from cramps. Having an orgasm relieves that pain. That’s a fact.
    Combine that knowledge with a bit of sensitivity (women are embarrassed at the bleeding), and use a blue or green color towel which will not show blood, and dim the lights, and you are home free.
    If you want to be a gentleman, you can even ensure that she is covered/wrapped with the towel when the lights go back on and she heads to the bathroom to wash up, you can tell her to close her eyes as you wash her off in the shower. She never really sees the blood and feels good about the bang and herself.

  42. GT November 17, 2014 at 10:51 pm

    Wow. DC really does sound like a hellhole. But I have to say, you gave up your principles AND didn’t get laid. If you weren’t going to get laid, you could’ve at least called her out for her feminist bullshit. But easy for me to say I guess, I don’t live in DC