Naomi Wolf Is A Delusional Old Hag

While most Americans were traveling to the beach this weekend thanks to Memorial Day, a holiday meant to commemorate the loss of predominately male soldiers who fought in our grandest wars, the Washington Post takes a messy liquid shit over its remaining male readership in publishing a piece of feminist propaganda by Naomi Wolf. Her thesis is that older women are better than younger women because they are more confident, more stylish, and have better resumes, and that older men who date those younger women are losers who are missing out on true happiness. Take a look at her opening anecdote:

Recently, I was at a party, and a man who, like myself, was in his late 40s, arrived with a woman 20 years younger. It took only a few moments of conversation before the rest of the group realized that the two had very little in common. And yet I did not feel the frisson of envy among the men present, nor did I see a bristle of jealousy from any of the stylish, accomplished women in their 40s. In fact, the mood of both genders was tender, almost pitying. The man may have imagined that he was showing off the youth of his date the way he might show off a new Maserati; but parading her around like an acquisition seemed only to make his friends feel sorry for him.

The party, which I imagine to have been stacked with menopausal women and their beta male hanger-ons looking to be thrown a sexual bone, had only one person worth the attention of the entire group: a man who spurned them all by deciding to fulfill his genetic destiny with a woman who could bear his child, not an “accomplished” woman in her 40s who is sterile and incapable of maternal duty.

Wolf’s jealousy can be spotted a mile away by even Stevie Wonder. There is no reason any woman would give a damn about why some man is dating some girl unless she secretly wanted to exchange places with the selected girl, who in this case was written off solely because of her young age.

This opening salvo sets the tone for an article which argues that non-fertile women, whose bodies have the habit of degrading into the shape of a soda can, are actually the best long-term mates for men. Believe it or not, this is what got published in the fifth most read newspaper in the country.

I look around at the magnetic and dynamic women my own age, I look at my own life, and instead that script seems more like a convenient fiction—designed, as so many aspects of “the beauty myth” are, to make women feel less powerful; in this case, just when their power, magnetism and sexuality are at their height.

Wolf knows what you want in a woman better than you know yourself. Forget about all that sexy, feminine crap I’ve been writing about. At the end of a long day at the job, where you’re working long hours for low pay in a strained economy, what you ache to come home to is a… magnetic woman. Magnetism will put a hot meal on the dining room table, it will take care of your kids, and it will give you orgasms in bed. With the addition of being “dynamic,” construction of our dream woman is now complete. I don’t want a woman with concrete sexual skills and homemaking abilities—I want one who can be described with corporate buzzwords that make me feel like I just came out of a bad job interview.

Since [writing The Beauty Myth], many of the issues I warned about have, indeed, gotten worse. The body size of fashion models and starlets has dropped still further; fashion ads showcase women who look as if they should be hospitalized. The technologies of cosmetic surgery have become so commonplace that there are communities in which women with unreconstructed faces are seen as bucking the norm. Breast surgery is almost universal in pornography, and pornography is almost universal in the sexual coming-of-age of both young women and young men; those images now have greater impact than they did when I wrote the book.

Wolf implies that the average American woman is so stupid and suggestible that she’s absolutely powerless to the evil forces of fashion magazines and pornography. She’s saying that a woman will follow just about whatever you put in front of her while having no ability to think on her own, that watching anal gangbangs on RedTube and PornHub is corrupting her soul and turning her into a mindless zombie consumer. In so many words she’s saying that today’s woman doesn’t have the strength to fulfill her womanly duties.

I completely agree with Wolf that women are not fulfilling their duties. To turn the tide, we must protect women from their environment by placing them in isolation cages away from all forms of marketing or entertainment. While they remain locked in those cages we must teach them real skills that further a household, such as dressing nice, cooking, cleaning, staying fit and trim, and child rearing. We must pass laws that forbid women the exposure to anything that doesn’t help strengthen the family unit. The first thing to be forbidden will be feminist propaganda written by childless women who are in all likelihood closeted lesbians.

Let me demonstrate how hypocritical this old broad is. Her book The Beauty Myth was published by HarperCollins, a company that puts out a never-ending supply of cheesy dieting and self-help books. It’s owned by News Corporation, whose 20th Century Fox studio reinforces more gender stereotypes in a single summer movie season that I will in my entire life. They also publish Vogue Magazine, which last time I checked is a fashion magazine that Wolf suggests is steadfastly destroying women.

A more recent book of hers called The Treehouse is published by Simon & Schuster, who just unleashed Eva Scrivo On Beauty onto the world, a book “packed with information on hair, skin care and makeup techniques.” It’s owned by CBS, broadcaster of the Superbowl, which has accepted millions of dollars from GoDaddy whose commercials feature attractive women showing off gigantic breasts. Wolf specifically singles out such breast enhancement culture as a horrible destructor of a woman’s self-esteem yet she is all too quick to show her ample cleavage at public events. It’s easy for her to criticize women trying to get a respectable chest when she already has massive udders.

I honestly don’t care about those GoDaddy commercials, Vogue Magazine, or any dieting book that fleeces women with dubious health advice, but if you’re going to make it your life mission to criticize cultural forces which you believe are destroying women, and at the same time cash royalty checks from those companies while they ejaculate that crap onto the the faces of American women, what does make you? It makes you a hypocrite and a phony.

She criticizes “beauty products” made by companies that supply profits for the companies that pay her. That would be like me publishing a men’s rights book with the same company that also puts out a gender studies textbook that says the only way to eliminate rape is to eliminate men. I should be rightly denounced for such hypocrisy, yet this woman can stay on her ivory tower and put out silly ideas in mainstream publications without being called out on it.

Wolf doesn’t care about women, she just cares about her bank account, her accomplishments, and her speaking engagements that take her around the country. For any woman to hitch her wagon to Wolf would be like a real conservative stroking the balls of Bill O’Reilly. One has to wonder if they even believe half the things they say.

When I am at a social occasion, the showstoppers are no longer the young beauties in their 20s. Rather, those who draw all the light in the room are the women of great accomplishment and personal charisma—and these are usually women in midlife. (Indeed, at events I have attended recently, cadres of conventionally beautiful young women seem now to be treated almost like wallpaper or like the catering staff.)

Can you imagine going to a party where all the men ignore young beautiful women who can still conceive children while going for old woman rejects whose breasts hang down to their waists without the aid of a bra? Can someone at the Washington Post fact-check this anecdote? Actually there is no need. The reason those “young beauties” aren’t getting attention is because they’re already with a man. Old hags have no choice but to desperately wrangle away the spotlight by being “witty” or “engaging” since they’re so desperate to meet someone—anyone—who will stick around for more than a casual encounter. A young woman does not have to try and does not need a multi-page resume listed with her accomplishments. As long as she’s attractive, she just has to be.

The change in social norms around the issue of women’s aging is immense. There is now an influential and growing demographic of educated, well-off women whose status, sense of self-esteem and sexual cachet rise rather than fall as they head toward midlife. I do not see younger women looking at accomplished women in their 40s with pity or derision: I see them looking ahead with admiration and even envy.

I sure don’t see social norms changing, but then again I don’t go to New Yorker-style social functions where feminist hacks lick each other’s pussies. Wolf offers absolutely no evidence to this “immense” change besides anonymous quotes. She provides no numbers to support the “growing” demographic of menopausal women who can get any man they want. Besides younger studs in their early 20s getting seduced by pathetic cougars who pay their bills, I surely don’t see a new paradigm forming that changes what men have done for hundreds of thousands of years. The day I see men of this country tacking on 20 years to the ideal age of women they currently prefer is the day we have evolved into a new species.

And can someone please tell me what “sexual cachet” is? I’m guessing it’s doublespeak for sexual desperation. We’ve arrived at the juncture where modern feminism has been reduced to single women armed with thesauruses. The movement no longer provides any sort of data, evidence, or even the flimsiest of surveys for their assertions. They’re doing nothing more these days but preaching to the choir of undesirable, lost women.

Many older women no longer see younger women as rivals in the same way. “I have empathy for them,” said one 54-year-old psychologist. “I want to mentor younger women, not compete with them,” remarked another friend, a 48-year-old photographer.

Substitute empathy with jealousy and mentor with sabotage and we have the most accurate quote in the article.

Certainly some men my age still date or marry younger, as our friend at the party sought to do; but in my own circles, at least, it is considered more macho for a man to have an accomplished woman his own age on his arm.

This is the first time I’ve seen a feminist use a reverse-shaming technique where she compliments a behavior that only beta males have been performing. If going for a 45-year-old woman is macho then I will never be macho. When I’m 60 years old, alone, decrepit, and staring at a warty dick whose glory days have long since passed, I will be anti-macho by going to Colombia or Thailand to sleep with 18-year-old prostitutes for less than the price of taking a woman like Wolf to dinner with nothing to gain from it except hearing her deluded opinions and mighty accomplishments. Dating a bloated hag like Wolf would put even the most strapping of men on the fast track to viagra dependency.

When I asked my single male peers why they were dating or having relationships with women their own ages rather than younger women, I heard variants of this: “Today, someone isn’t less cool as she gets older. She is just as cool or cooler. And, if a woman is taking care of herself, there isn’t really a difference sexually between a younger and an older woman – except that the older woman is more comfortable with herself and more sure of herself.”

Those men are single for a reason: they are unsuccessful in dating younger, more desirable women. They have no choice but to date their peers. I know of no society in the world where dating 40 and above is macho, preferred, or pleasurable. Such a society only exists in Wolf’s magnetic brain.

By insinutating that older women are so amazing, she strongly presupposes that younger women are stupid and undesirable. Wolf doesn’t really care about feminism or the female gender, she only cares about older women her own age, specifically herself. Her article is nothing more than a diary entry of a bitter spinster who can’t get a man and is jealous of those women who are outperforming her on the dating market. Wolf secretly hates the beautiful 23-year-old former cheerleader who has gotten the commitment from a handsome jock who wants to take care of her for life, since the ship has long since sailed for her to get anything but a sniveling dweeb who couldn’t fuck a 20-something girl to save his life.

So, at the risk of sounding socially incorrect, I am going to deviate from that script, and I invite all women of a certain age to join me. A great many of us don’t feel particularly wistful or rueful about our earlier physical selves. A great many of us really like where we are.

I like where I am.

In the Five Stages of Grief, denial is the first stage. This is where she’s at. Let me sum up the stages for the life of Naomi Wolf:

Denial: “Being old and ugly is beautiful. I can land any man that I desire because I’m a best-selling author, something that men specifically select for.”

Anger: “I keep getting passed on for younger, more beautiful women. Guys only fuck me once or twice and then dump me via text message. Even my Craigslist hookups are not calling me back. This isn’t fair!”

Bargaining: “Come on just give me two more years. I should be able to trick a decent man into marrying me. I’ll go to the beauty salon, I’ll dye my hair weekly. I’ll even cook real meals without using a microwave. I don’t want to die alone!”

Depression: “Wow I don’t believe this has happened to me. I wasted my entire life teaching women to be strong and independent and all that has gotten me is a life of loneliness and isolation. Maybe I should have been nice to all those decent guys who gave me attention instead of dismissing them outright because they didn’t agree with all my crazy beliefs.”

Acceptance: “Time to buy some cats.”

Here is some more evidence she’s in the denial stage:

Sure, I am startled when I forget to put a color rinse in my hair, and I look into the bathroom mirror and see a sheen of gray. But I look at it with a kind of gentle curiosity: So that is what that will be like!

I am overwhelmed with gratitude for a body that can move and hike and swim, seduce and be seduced, be exhilarated and overjoyed, and all of this in the blessing of being free of serious illness.

She found other ladies who are in denial as well:

A 59-year-old teacher said: “I’d rather look great for who I am than try to look 19. I feel happier in my skin than I did when I was younger.”

The most pathetic part of her article is when she tries to rationalizes her declining beauty:

There are many other delightful surprises about being at this stage on the journey. I don’t miss the brutal sexual harassment that young women receive from men—and I love the far gentler flirtation or civil compliments from cab drivers and park chess players my own age or older. On the street, young women are told: Give me some. Older women hear: I love your eyes. That is not a bad trade.

Did you read that? A benefit to aging is that she gets less sexual attention from the opposite sex, and when she does it’s from the creepy guy who sits in the coffee shop all day with stacks of old newspapers (newsflash to Wolf: he tells every woman she has beautiful eyes). Her argument that becoming invisible and undesirable is a good thing is so convincing that I bet hordes of young women are speeding up the process by dyeing their hair grey and tripling their tanning sessions to induce premature wrinkle formation.

Unfortunately for us, her opinions are not invisible as long as publications like the Washington Post give her a voice to spew nonsense onto the masses that I’m hoping fails to convince anyone but older woman who insist on denying the reality of evolution, sexual selection, and human nature. Men do not prefer older women. Men do not care about a woman’s magnetism. Men do not want an overly-opinionated cow who excels only in talking bullshit instead of maintaining a home. Wolf can continue to write articles and books for corporations that push the very culture she claims to be against, but nothing will change the immutable laws of human nature.

Until women realize that their window of opportunity is short for landing a quality man, they will continue wasting their lives thanks to enablers like Wolf, who would rather die in a house that smells like cat urine than see a woman succeed with men when she has so horribly failed.

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Yea, one of the great ironies of the dating ritual for men is that all the women who wouldn’t give you the time of fucking day at 25, will be begging at 45. Part of me feels bad for aging women. It’s a brutal world out there and when you look the mirror in the eyes and see your face aging and dropping, it has to scare the living shit out of you. No question, that aging is much easier on men than women.

And dude, nobody wants to fucking a 45 year old. Nobody. Given the choice between 27 year old tone blonde and 45 year old toned brunette, it isn’t even a choice.

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Awesome. 90 percent of old people only care about old people.

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Old hags in denial are beyond sad and pathetic. Nobody wants them outside of sexually frustrated betas hoping to get something, anything, sexual regardless of how disgusting and nasty it is. The vast majority of women over 40, as far as sex appeal is concerned, are of no interest from the physical aspect of relationships unless it is to much older men or younger men unable to attract women their own age.

Women beyond 40 would be best advised to focus on the friendship aspect and accept the reality that they no longer physically appeal to most men like they did when they were younger. Accepting the truth will make their lives less frustrating. And perhaps it will lead to healthy friendships once she drops the pretense that she’s “hot” and getting more attractive with age. No ladies, you don’t, on average, look better than you did twenty years ago as you pack on the pounds, get more wrinkles and have facial and bodily sagging. You just look old and worn out.

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You’re right. I want a old, dry, decrepit vagina attached to a self-loathing, jealous-driven, feminist-pandering, black-tie wearing, withering old hag in denial — who secretly wishes she was a man.

It all makes sense now. I’m done with banging beautiful, young women.

Wheres the [sarcasm off] button?

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When I hear or read about older women saying that they feel sexier, or are more confident, or any other positive quality in relation to their younger selves, I’m pretty sure the reality is that they are now more sure of their own relative standing in the social order. Young women of varying attractiveness are often unsure of where exactly they fit in relative to each other, and relative to attractive men.

Older women have realized and accepted their social standing, and that removes a lot of the uncertainty that they felt when younger making them more confident, which I think they misread as an increase in their attractiveness. An increase in confidence can make someone more pleasant to talk to, but it certainly doesn’t change their sexual market value.

Good post Roosh.

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I appreciate older women. when a younger woman is not available there are plenty of ok looking 30-40 year old women around.
I want to meet guys who actually want to fcuk older women and see what their deal is , do such men exist ? or is it just those that can’t fuck young girls who lie and say they prefer older women.

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Excellent post. The effort Ms. Wolf must put in to look like a passable old cow is probably triple the effort a twenty-something cutie expends. You’re correct in pointing out the only people who buy that garbage are brainwashed betas and other old hags intellectualizing the fact they are long gone over the hill. Real men from age 16 to 100 prefer young girls, period. Women following Ms. Wolfs’ advice (sabotage) will wind up in a witch coven with the kitty cats, lying to each other about how incredibly happy they are to be over 45 spinsters who can only get a hard penis of the plastic, battery operated variety.

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lol. Roosh, FTW.

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that just blew my mind, in a good way. thank you, I needed that.

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H A M

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Look on the bright side. If no one listened to Wolf and her ilk, a lot more people would be happily married with families. There’d be no use for Game.

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She’s another Jew in the media spewing hypocritical, toxic nonsense that appeals to the stupid masses and destroys any non-Jew society.

Newspapers, film, TV, magazines, commercials. All the crap in them is done by Jews.

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You should post a picture of her.

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Naomi Wolf pic as requested.

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Thank you Roosh!

This has really made my day!!

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quote: Wolf doesn’t care about women, she just cares about her bank account” -Wrong, as a jew change-agent, she cares about corrupting the people of the host country she parasites on, thats Jew job one, money and fame are just gravy.

the feminists almost to a man (woman) are jews, they destroyed the lives of those women and now that they are in their 40s/50s, wolf now soothes them by telling them its ok, and they made the right decisions. A classic jew con job….cause a problem, then offer solutions to the problem you caused, cause psychosis, and then set up shop as psychologist….the jew gets paid twice and reinvents herself. the next phase is to reinvent once again, and get paid a third time. dont you love gods chosen.

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like a lot of guys I enjoy a healthy dose of milf porn… my problem with older women is not so much their appearance (assuming we’re talking about the minority of women, probably foreign, who age well)…

it’s more about how their personality has already formed without me, probably through relationships with assholes. maybe the best option would be aw very fit widow, who’d had a good husband who had treated her well and who she’d appreciated, but then she’s always going to be thinking of him in the back of her mind, right?

catch 22 : P

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That’s funny. I was at a party over the weekend, too. It was mostly beta males like myself and their cougar partners. A stunningly beautiful 25-year-old woman walked in with her extremely confident and wealthy beau. He had a lantern jaw, an Italian designer suit, and unending charm and charisma. Life of the party. Yet none of us beta males were jealous. We took pity on her. We all felt so sorry for her that she felt the need to show off this attractive man with whom she obviously had nothing in common. Unless of course you count all the wild animal sex they probably have together, and the non-sexual fun of enjoying each other’s company. Really, really sad.

Like I said, we all felt sorry for both of them. Then we went home an masturbated furiously.

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Maureen Dowd to the white courtesy phone.

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Single women comparison with milk :

18 years old: Fresh off the cow. Awesome taste, the best you’ve ever tasted.
20 years old: Fresh milk, you enjoy a fresh glass.
25 years old: Good, you use it for cooking and in your cereals, doesn’t taste bad.
28 years old: You want to finish it quick before it goes bad.
30 years old: Starts to smell a bit. The taste is not bitter yet.
35 years old: You give it a shot to see if it’s still any good, the bitterness makes you spit it out.
40 years old: You pour it by mistake without knowing. You see the lumps, you flush it out immediately.
45 years old: You open it and immediately gag. You can’t even get the rotten lumps out of the bottle. Completely gross.

This is a generalization of American women. Some fit 30-35 years old foreign women can be decent for casual sex. But foreign girls are usually married by then.

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“A stunningly beautiful 25-year-old woman walked in with her extremely confident and wealthy beau. He had a lantern jaw, an Italian designer suit, and unending charm and charisma.”

She was actually 22.

And my Suit was Custom. From London.

Other than those two details, you got it.

– MPM

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great article. thanks a lot.
what a stupid woman..

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Powerful.Masterpiece.

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roosh is to an asian nerd what a pack of maltesers is to a fat woman: a guilty pleasure.
hell i’ll never make it as a badass player but his articles both shock and awe.
this was a great read as i like it when roosh uses his analytical, lawyer-like rebuttal skills for evil not good.
although wolf’s article was easy to smash away you did a good job mr roosh.
entertaining as always.

it’s kind of a bad indictment on society that some of the best writing is coming out of a guy that’s writing a blog focused on helping guys get laid.
i guess in the past roosh would’ve been a machiavelli-like character. helping aristocrats up the social ladder.
now he’s using the combined powers of science and psychology to aid guys understand human relations.
and vagina relations.

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Just to add to my earlier sarcastic comment…I have no problem with women of any age feeling confident with who they are and all that. There are some sexy middle aged women out there. But there is no reason to traffic in pretty lies; it’s transparently obvious. Wolf should just say, “I’m getting older, fatter, and more wrinkled, it’s tough to keep up and stay sexy. But I still try because I want to look good and feel good for my age and attract men the way I used to.”

How much do you want to bet the 22-year-old Wolf rode a few 40+ cocks in her day? I’m sure there was at least one community organizer or Carter campaign worker towing the feminist party line who got in her pants. I’d lay dollars to donuts that had Wolf been on the Clinton for Governor campaign bus 25-30 years ago, he’d have told her what a strong and powerful woman she was while yanking her pony tail.

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As left-hater, I have a certain admiration for the Clinton/Edwards hypocrti-liar set. Unlike most leftist men, who are beta bitches desperately cloying for any crumbs from the feminist table (Obama/Carter), Clinton-Edwards recognized that leftist women are easy, and have merely learned to spit out any disgusting platitude or political position that will get those birkenstocks in the air.

The amazing thing is the feminist hamster wheel: despite the fact that it is glaringly obvious that Clinton/Edwards only spit the feminist line for sex and power, leftist women will still defend them to the death/sleep with them, even when the lies are so abjectedly obvious that OJ Simpson would blush.

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nguyenimproved, don’t sell yourself short; you can, too, change to become alpha over time. Too many asian guys resign themselves to chump status. You’re better than that.

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You know a classic trait of a sociopath is the ability to endlessly rationalize their point of view or behavior. LOL

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All women, not just feminisits, are incapable of suffering for an idea.

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Hahaha! Excellent work again Roosh. You’ve exposed Ms. Wolf as a typical hypocrite. Unfortunately, she will never run out of brainwashed drones buying her special brand of nonsense.

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Interesting read. Re: #6 there’s nothing wrong with tapping some older ass to change it up – just don’t plan on sticking around too long but don’t worry their lifetime of disappointment with men makes your inevitable exit expected. Some of my more memorable encounters are with the cougar crowd. You ever watch the movie Spread?

You’ll enjoy the raw dog and no need to worry about pulling out or a phone call nine months later. Have your fun and experiment with multiple types of women.

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Rooshv, FTW.

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great post, roosh. @ 12 i feel the same

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I disagree that she should self publish. If someone offers her money to print her opinions (however lame), she’s a fool not to take it and use the megaphone. Editorial and Advertising decisions are (in theory) supposed to be separate. If I were published by NewsCorp tomorrow, I’m sure there are plenty of advertisements in its vast media empire that wouldn’t square with my opinions, either. I’d still sleep fine at night.

Just my $.02, love the blog, enjoy your travels.

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Yes…overall, Naomie Wolf’s message is a defense of herself and women like her. Everyone gets older, and most of us learn how to deal. Men do, on average, age “better” than men (gray and wrinkles on men is distinguished, while the same on a woman is just…old and raggedy).

I will say this though…women that have always taken decent care of themselves still look good in their 40’s, regardless of some gray or wrinkles (since most woman color their hair anyway, women only have gray when they make a conscious choice to stop coloring, or they have so much gray that it’s stupid to try). I’m in my 40’s, and I love women in the late 30’s to mid-40’s range that are still in decent shape. And it’s mostly American culture where all things young are considered preferable to older. The phenomenon of older man/younger woman is generally wealthy men. Average joes don’t have that option on the table most of the time. It isn’t “macho” for a man to be with a woman his own age – MOST men are with women around their own age. It’s a pipe dream for most men to trade her in for a 20-something.

I think it’s also foolish posturing to state that older women have shed insecurities. That’s nonsense. Women in general are insecure about their bodies. They’re just insecure about different things depending on what stage of life they’re in. The last 3 women I’ve fucked were 47, 44 and 43. The 47 year old has a tight, petite body, but she was still insecure about her breasts (the first time we fucked she would take her top off). The 43 year old thought she was fat (she was thick, but then while we were on webcam one night she’s eating a huge bowl of ice cream at midnight, and then moaning about needing to lose weight), then immediately afterwards asked, “am I going to see you again?” Ridiculous. Only the 44 year old was secure in her body and the situation. She was point blank – “I’m coming off a divorce, I’m attracted to you and want to fuck you. There will be no drama.” And there wasn’t, and her body was tight and curvy because she kept active and ate right. None of them, however, where wrinkled and sagging.

As younger men, I perfectly understand why a woman in Wolf’s demographic would not be appealing. At the same time, Wolf seems to paint everyone in her demographic as being badly deteriorated. Again, in American culture women let themselves go like that, then demand men still desire them. They’ll only put in a little effort after a man breaks up with them (they’ll go on a diet and run to the gym…for about a week),so they can try to snag another one, but don’t think to try to maintain themselves for the man they’re with.

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“The 47 year old has a tight, petite body, but she was still insecure about her breasts (the first time we fucked she would take her top off).”

I meant she WOULDN’T take her top off.

Naomi Wolf herself is an attractive woman. Definitely smashable. In her circles, a man around her age might want to be with her because of her accomplishments, because in her circles she would be a trophy. But most men wouldn’t care about that. They only care about if you’re good looking enough to get their dick hard, and if they can stand to be around you most of the time. Women STILL don’t understand this.

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I appreciated when Naomi Wolf spoke out against the ever expanding fascist police state. But this is just ridiculous.

“I think it is not good for our democracy that most newspapers and magazines are now owned by three or four megacorporations.”

But she is supporting that by publishing with them.

“I believe in publishing in as mainstream a set of venues as possible because that is where real change lies.”

Wrong. Real change lies in the people waking up and no longer buying or reading the propaganda outlets of the hypercorrupt establishment like WashPost.

“I am very happy to take Rupert Murdoch’s money — I also take George Soros’”

Wow. Two of the worst and most corrupt establishment hacks who are directly tied to the banking oligarchs and war racketeers ass raping the nation and – in the end – herself. Congratulations.

“to subsidize my radical message of social equality.”

Up your ass the kind of “social equality” you’re talking about, Naomi.

“But then again American feminists are not big on character.”

Limousine liberals generally aren’t.

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Naomi Wolf herself is an attractive woman

You have completely discredited yourself, as you are obviously not a desired man. Your opinion is thus as irrelevant as the old hag’s.

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Men learning female psychology go through the same five stages.

Denial: Women are all wonderful.
Anger: Women are all bitches.
Bargaining: Women are all bitches except for that one special girl I just need to find.
Depression: Women are all bitches, so I’m not going to bother with them.
Acceptance: Women are women, I might as well just game them into sex without developing an emotional attachment while my prostate still works.

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She could have said, “Older women can be more attractive if/when they’ve learned to treat men better, be less flakey, more passionate in bed, all in all more grateful, less stuck up and fake.”

That I might have bought, assuming they take care of their appearance. Yeah I don’t have any particular need for a woman who is “dynamic” : P

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She’s not the worst of the bunch.

I get this shit all the time, though: My SO is 10 years younger than me. My sister, my age, conservative and with 2 kids, rags on me all the time about how my SO is just another in a long list of frivolous conquests, wondering when I’ll get bored and ditch her for another model.

The problem is: My SO is younger than she is, hotter than my sister ever was, and I’m no great shakes (my brother got the Alpha looks and the 6’2″), and smarter than my sister, too – if horribly vain.

And she’s also been around now for a year. And she’s living with me. So the griping has become sharper and more judgmental – but just of me.

Her constant sniping is no longer public – she does it only in front of me.

I plan to knock up and keep this girl. Meanwhile, my sister rebelled by marrying a black guy who, while mild-mannered, tractable and loyal, is also not the Alpha she imagined him to be: He’s docile, pleasant guy who turned out to be everything my parents wanted (if not white and catholic).

So I pointed out: Call me a bastard, a traditional shit, a misogynist, and a player – but I scored harder than she did, though I haven’t bred yet.

Now, the only thing she has on me in the family is the fact that she has two kids, my brother 4 (though he doesn’t hold it over me: He’s my brother; my sister is a bitch about it: It appears to be her version of Major Accomplishment).

If I actually get married again, to a smart woman who’s hot and much younger than me, it’ll say “fuck your stupid delusions” to my sister.

I’d almost do it just for that.

Conservative women can be bigger bitches than liberal fembots.

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What do women and dog shit have in common? The older they get, the easier they are to pick up!

Wolf is a self-parody. Her articles and books are matronly lullabies for delusional hags and fugs and, more importantly, for herself. Yep, it’s that aging woman magnetism and dynamism that men really chub for. That’s the ticket. Wolf’s reply that “older women are desperate is a cultural myth” is one of those slippery evasions that feminists like her are known to engage in. Desperation of the sort that occupies the mind is for late 20s-early 30s women who still have skin in the game but are getting nervous they won’t meet and marry the alpha male of their dreams before all their friends do. In contrast, older broads who are about to careen into the wall can claim to feel less desperate because they’ve given up any hope of meeting a sexy man. Dropping out and finding inner peace out of necessity is not the same as being just as attractive to men at forty as you were when you were twenty.

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“Dropping out and finding inner peace” – sums it up.

If men were into older women, mainstream porn and the dating world would reflect this.

Reality hurts much.

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The one time I was with a 17 – year old when I was over the age of 20 (I was 28), while I thought she was 23, my thoughts were this:

This is one hot chick.

I didn’t put it down to age at the time. But thinking back, she was tight, hot and that had likely lots to do with age.

At almost 40, I find 25-30 is still fine.

But I chub pretty hard when I see a hot 20 year-old. What guy won’t?

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Desperation among the 40-plus set is not a myth. Hell, 30-something singles are desperate too. Most single women, regardless of age, have a touch of desperation to them, because no matter how “independent” a woman claims to be, there’s a hole in her life if there isn’t a man that’s fucking her in her life. Or at least a guy that WANTS to fuck her, but she’s playing games. Some may resign themselves to singledom, but they’re not happy there. Because Wolf is somewhat famous and decent looking, she MIGHT have options that the average woman of her age doesn’t. But I’m sure dudes aren’t competing to get at her either.

She reminds me of delusional fatties like the one that hit me up on this social site I’m on. She dropped an anonymous question on my page (though I know who it was):

“BBW are just as beautiful as a smaller woman, why do men choose to not show a BBW real Love????”

NO…no they aren’t! I gave her the whole “beauty is subjective” bit, and told her to focus on guys that ARE attracted to her, instead of guys that are, blah, blah. There are dating sites for BBWs, so she should be on one of those, instead of going around trying to convince EVERYONE (and herself) that her being fat doesn’t matter, and that’s she’s as beautiful as any other woman.

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Ali G already broker her down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyLSstqMvH8

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I asked my GF what she thought of dating a much older guy, maybe 15-20 years older. Interestingly, she had no problem with this. She said it was natural. In her opinion, it totally depends on the guy.

She says it comes from her liberal views on sex and relationships, but I suspect it’s her background: Daddy issues (“Daddy had trouble but he was the best man ever, I wish he had more time for me”) and her cultural background (European internationalist but also Persian: Older man younger women pairings are encouraged; for her, at least not frowned on; and they look for hard alphas as a rule: Persian guys tend to be macho in the extreme. She says she finds this unattractive, but when I met her, all the guys around her were Persian/Arab Christian/Maltese asshole types with money. I blew her mind: She never imagined herself with a white, typically conservative American).

But it means this: When I gamed her, she reacted immediately to hard game and controlled machismo. Mixed with vulnerability and humility, it still makes her swoon.

Point: I suspect the fact that I’m older makes a difference. She wants to be led by a competent male. The kicker was forcing her through mild injunction and competent organization to finish her master’s thesis. It glued her to me.

A guy 20 years older could have done that, too, and she’d be just as glued.

I suspect the right 30 year-old could have done it to her, as well.

Again, the age thing wasn’t a big factor.

Pushing the right buttons was.

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What is it with Catholic women in America, Gorbachev?

Where do they get this feminist shit?

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By that I mean white Catholic. I haven’t had any problem with Latin Catholic ones.