Neomasculinity Receives Mainstream Recognition

Infowars reporter Paul Joseph Watson recently did a summary video on neomasculinity:

It has received over 40,000 views in three days.

In case you missed it, I previously laid out the principle doctrines of neomasculinity.

The recognition of neomasculinity by a large outlet reaffirms to me that splitting from the “red pill” was prudent and necessary. The red pill term has served its use in the past five years, but a quick perusal of the red pill subreddit or related blogs show that it’s too focused on sex at sacrifice of greater political and cultural issues. It has become an entry-level group for men in their 20’s who just started getting laid, but this can only serve as a transitory stage.

Once a man has gotten his fill of casual sex, and is looking for deeper meaning in his relationships or satisfaction with life, the red pill has few answers besides running “dread game” on your wife, maintaining “good style” to attract young females when older, or the ever vague “work on yourself.” Neomasculinity will aim to fill in these gaps by serving men regardless of their age or involvement in the game.

You may be confused at all the different men’s groups on the internet. Here’s a brief summary:

MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way)

This group is for men who do not want to deal with women at all. They have decided to forgo having physical or emotional relationships with them, and so here you will find the greatest percentage of voluntary celibates, similar to the herbivore men of Japan. While a few MGTOW do pursue sex, the majority despises game and any attempt to be more attractive to women, and have the most amount of hostility towards them. They correctly understand the problems of society, but provide asexual solutions that appeal more to men who place no importance in sexual relationships.

Men’s Rights Activists

This group is designed for older men who have already been badly burned by family courts, though many younger men who believe in a literal definition of equality are also members. While MRA’s attempt to provide ideological answers for what men should believe, it yields no answers for how a young man should structure his life, and considers ideas of being masculine and fulfilling your biological sex role as oppressive and “gynocentric” (many MGTOWs believe this as well). It also does not give advice on having relationships with women.

PUA (Pick Up Artists)

PUAs are a collection of businessmen and marketers who share game knowledge to sex-starved men in exchange for large sums of money (e.g. $3,000 for a weekend workshop). Their work is almost entirely commercial and aims to teach men how to get laid with the highest quantity of women with no concern for the long-term effect this has on society or their students’ well-being. PUAs ignore the cultural reality of why game is needed, and sugar coat the results a typical man can get from it.

The Red Pill

The red pill is a non-commercial version of PUA with cultural observations thrown in. They hold firmly and obsessively onto rigid dogmas such as the alpha/beta male dichotomy to explain all male behavior while basing their “truths” upon a shaky foundation of pop evolution. Because it has no council of elders to guide the ideology, it is now being steered by the mob and watered down—or outright trolled—by entryists who are blue pill.

There is no denying that game works, but it can’t exist in isolation without a complementary ideology that gives men life guidance besides just sex. Hence, neomasculinity, which has begun to touch on politics and I predict will soon branch out to aiding women (on separate platforms), for one can easily see the folly of elevating the value of men while not doing the same for women (i.e. “You are now a virtuous man, but during the time you gained great virtue and self-actualization, women have declined in their virtue and weigh 175 pounds on average”).

I will help develop neomasculinity with the community—and its analogous form neofemininity—into a complete philosophy that doesn’t focus only on Western-style casual sex. Men will need answers for how to live and understand the world not just during their most horny years, but also for a long time thereafter. The other men’s groups are needed, for they serve men at a specific point in their lives, but ultimately those groups will be stepping stones for the final destination of neomasculinity.

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The only other man I currently trust to be a protector of neomasculine ideals is Quintus Curtius. He has made bold prediction about its future: http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-47659-post-1026679.html#pid1026679

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Roosh, do you have any plans to attempt to get your new philosophy accepted by mainstream academia?

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No, but if academia comes to me I will share the materials they request.

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Could happen. Have you ever read Robert Pirsig’s “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance”? It led to his “Metaphysics of Quality” being accepted by mainstream academia. I believe the University of Liverpool now offers a PhD in it. You remind me a lot of Pirsig.

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Since Roosh uses scientific method to compile and present materials, and doesn’t veer far from it, except maybe occasionally in his short stories/essays, it really wouldn’t surprise me if academia took interest.

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I want to get involved in the neo femininity discourse. How can I? Also, as an anthropologist at heart, I can easily see this movement growing rapidly since there’s a palpable need for answers, solutions, guides, to create, maintain and foster healthy relationships between the sexes.

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You can drop me an email with what you had in mind.

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Yes, definitely. As the moderator, you may have my email. How do I email you?

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I’d be interested in your anthropologist ideas concerning femininity. I think promoting neofemininity would be trickier. Men tend to seek out answers to their problems, but women are sold their problems as well as their solutions.

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There’s a good number of women who are seeking answers and are interested in challenging the divisive feminist claims that created and continue to feed this backlash. Now to talk about femininity from an anthropological perspective I would need more time. I cannot make claims without the research.

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I don’t think it would be an impossible task. I’ve had success in arguing economical issues concerning feminism. Without the post World War II manufacturing economy second wave feminism would not have been possible. Similarly I don’t think without the industrial revolution women wouldn’t have been concerned about voting rights either considering wealth was tied to an agricultural economy as well as family wealth.

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why are feminists so preoccupied with petty and trivial issues in the West, while a large majority of women outside the West are living horrible lives and enduring genuine suffering.?

And why do they ignore real rape culture in places like Rochadale, Rotheram, Oxford, in the UK and Malmo in Sweden. Where incidents of rape have risen against the general Western trend of it declining.

Not trying to catch you off guard, just genuinely curious why they ignore these issues.

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It is similar to what Booker T. Washington, a black republican and former slave warned about:

“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of
advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.”

Feminism isn’t about solving actual problems. It is about profiting through state endorsed funding to provide them with their jobs. For instance, rape culture we all know is not about rape on campuses. It is about the colleges getting funding to build facilities and create jobs on campus for feminist who have no profitable skills in a free capitalist market.

Rape is already illegal and punishable by strict sentencing and the sex offenders list in the U.S. The real problem concerning actual rape victims is lack of funding to police departments to test rape kits. Most of the real issue is the back log of rape kites preformed by hospitals and reported to police.

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“The real problem concerning actual rape victims is lack of funding to police departments to test rape kits.”
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Don’t think so.

Most of the rape hysteria on college campuses turns not upon whether sex occurred, which is not disputed but rather the question of whether the sex was consensual.

Absent certified unedited video tape of the event, and real time blood alcohol level readouts (and maybe not even then as feminists will argue mental state), the “rape epidemic” (and the government jobs populated by SJWs that the “epidemic” required to justify the jobs) will never be allowed to go away.

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I am not arguing any of the SJW rhetoric and have stated the hysteria bullshit is to profiteers to get funding for their pet projects. My statements about rape kits, that you quoted me on, are about the actual victims that do go to the hospital and file a police report. There is an underfunding of those kits and many are back logged. I was referring solely to those where a rape has occurred and proper contact with the authorities happened.

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Heartiste has all the answers buried in the deep recesses of his blog. HE is the Red Pill council.

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His unapologetic prejudice tone is alienating. He is hilarious though.

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I bet it is, but for a such an important and delicate topic that involves 99.999% of the population, being harshly straight to the point is essential for flawless understanding, especially for aspiring Lotharios. (And especially since it has important cultural, political and even demographic aspects, as Roosh’s newly introduced “neomasculinity” shows.) So the guy fills an otherwise dark void, IMHO. Survival and prosperity are too important to sacrifice clarity for politeness.

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Heartiste has gone too far in to the evo-psych/human biodiversity quagmire.

He discriminates against non-whites, ignoring the fact that “diversity” is the work of the ruling elites, and blaming the social discord it creates on non-whites. That is incredibly ignorant to me.

As far as Game goes, he is on point and sharper than a scalpel, but I stopped reading his blog when I became involved with Roosh’s forum. The quality of discourse there is very high indeed.

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He doesn’t ignore the roles of the elite in “diversity”, read these:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/05/05/sweden-where-does-she-go-from-here/
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/the-moar-white-baybies-troll/
Although he is quite brief about it.

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There are probably a great deal more links than that supporting my claim. 2 articles is not significant weight to support you.

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Heartiste is the Miley Cyrus/Macklemore of game. An appropriator who wants to be recognized as an innovator. Blacks had been talking about game for the last 40 years. Doubt me? Go check out Iceberg Slim, The Mack, old school Too $hort.

My beef with him is that not only did he appropriate with no recognition or credit of what came before, but that he’s constantly spewing contempt for the people who pioneered the concepts that put food on his table. Imo, it’s indicative of a general lack of character.

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Never heard about these guys, and I only read CH and Roosh so far, but knowing this ROK article, this doesn’t sound suprising:
http://www.returnofkings.com/2090/how-black-america-has-predicted-our-future
Black people needed to pioneer these concepts earlier, I guess. To CH being racist… well, I haven’t made my mind up on that yet, I guess I should read more. A lack of character wouldn’t surprise me though… and I know that it’s attractive to Western chicks, but we ain’t part of that group grin

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CH is a ‘release valve’ for white folk. But he is not the real deal as he is run by banksters and hides this. Same for pretty much Alex Jones and company etc..

Control the information flow and you control the people.

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Can you expand/give a link on the bankster bit? I’m pretty new to the ‘spere.

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Sadly, there is enough info out there which makes me wonder if you are a troll. Google is not difficult and references can be followed up by someone with a genuine interest.

Many people have a bankster connection, including the original proponents of modern PUA, Style and Mystery.

I seriously doubt you are anything other than a corporate-zionist troll.

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Had a quick try, didn’t found anything, apart from a forum claiming that he’s fake. Thought I’d save the time searching for ages, but whatever…

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jared’s misdirection is pretty funny. “I don’t have to prove my absurd assertions because the proof is everywhere”. Sure, his crank theories are obvious to him because he’s a nut. Sad, because he’s also a brilliant guy.

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There’s no denying that, but the flaw of the red pill is that it is entirely dependent on the theory of evolution, which I will soon show has grave problems.

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Looking forward to reading evolution applied to modern human behavior

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Just go here: http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=27011 very very interesting stuff.

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Roosh: everything CH says is proven by real life, so if evolution(ary psychology) as a theory gets disproven, I think any alternative theory would immediately offer the right explanations.

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I agree totally. Evolution is a lot of so-called “peer-reviewed” opinion-based science with changing “truths” and philosophical explanations. Conclusions changes according to popular culture, from generation-to-generation and whoever commands the most articulate syllabus of the day. I haven’t tried to submit an article in a long while, but I’ve been waiting to hear this sort of viewpoint from Roosh or anyone who is courageous enough to call out the non-sense of this junk-science. You don’t even have to believe in a Creator to conclude that some kind of intelligent design is behind the creation of the universe. The whole idea that non-intelligent life evolved into intelligent life is absurd. It’s also unnecessary for those who believe in evolution to make-up such a story when most of these folks feels there’s no purpose in life to begin with. I love motivational videos, but I cringe every time evolution is invoked because it cancels the motivation when they say: “…we evolved for no purpose at all”.

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That’s one problem I’ve had there. It appears that the psuedo understanding of evolution is basically glorified hamstering on their end.

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Heartiste is ‘Chris Weidmann’ on a Google search. Certain other things about that site make me go hmmm… Its owned by banksters, but sadly, ALL sites are and only the odd blogs here and there are free from any influence. Even sometimes ROK and affiliates make me understand how pervasive that influence is. There’s a big culling coming…

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His last name is German because he’s German-American, as in Aryan German.

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Yes, most likely German.

His name is James C. Weidmann, formerly of Roissy blog fame. He is an unabashed white nationalist and appears to be a one-man operation. I doubt he is “bankster run”

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The changes in his writings makes me believe there are a few people or a different person comparing his works. Personally i don’t see, or may have missed, any growth or slow changes to explain the gap or differences between the new and old stuff.

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Congrats on your new pursuit Roosh. Your breakdown of the current men’s sub-communities is spot on. As I have questioned before; how does a modern man thrive in today’s society? Not cower in fear or run off to a spot of land in the middle of nowhere, but first recognize whats wrong, then live their lives adapting to this current state. Neomasculinity can apply to each one of the sub-groups above. Except for sexless MGTOW, which has never been appealing to me, our calling as men is to adapt and make the best with what we have got. Thats a real solution. Not bailing out or copping out.

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Btw, the bankers are going to genocide certain western nations more than others via economic collapse and staged wars – you if you choose to stay are the mule/donkey that does all the hard work till you get ‘offed’ in the worst possible way, a maximum of 10-15 years from now.

‘Bailing out’ is mislabelled – its called ‘leaving due to common sense as the masses get the culling they deserve, as they’ve gotten so braindead/enslaved.’ I was hoping for a spiritual revival to God and that women would stop aborting their future generations; now, I sadly can see that in order to have a society that does not have perpetual evil, you would need a different mindset than that found in all western societies.

I think you are the one who is ‘cowering in fear/being an imbecile’ as you get your lights knocked out by the ‘progress’ you are working towards. The worst thing about a totalitarian society is the people who in their weakness accept that state of affairs as being ‘the new normal’ legitimising such evil until they get what they are deserving of due to their ignorance/apathy/head in the sand syndrome. You cannot adapt to a society that actively hates your existence/independence/race etc…

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Neomasculinity? It was once called Christianity before it became the feminized Churchianity of today …

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He’s right
Catholic or orthodox though still has merit

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F*** Christianity already will ya. The three big monotheistic religions have regressed the Old World by a millennia (and patriarchy is not all there is to it), no matter what your mama and the local priest tell you.

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Just to make sure you don’t get me wrong, what I’m saying is Christianity is not responsible for “neomasculinity”, it wasn’t any different in the pagan world before it. Just because we are not Scandinavian socialists doesn’t mean we have to be the extreme opposite. Now stop rubbing abrahamic doctrine on people’s noses.

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Another idiot who speaks about things he knows not (history religion) beyond dumb tropes. Enjoy yourself kneeling before your goddesses then.

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Where did you conclude I know nothing about it? I’m an atheist btw

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I saw the article yesterday on prisonplanet and was thrilled about PJW spreading the word. I even sent the clip to my girlfriend to maybe enlighten her on how guys are sick of womens shit and they need to start growing up or reap the consequences. Ill let you know how it goes.

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so, how did it go

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I havent heard from her in a few days. I guess we broke up. Oh well.

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I’ve got to hand it to you Roosh, you coined the term, it pretty much covered all basis in definition, and here we are months later. Winning.. all this work is paying off brother.

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Sounds like you’re finally looking for a relationship Roosh

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Kind of ironic that this still pops up after a minute here:
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Thank you for taking a break cribbing Roissy/Heartiste to write here. I hope he’s receiving royalties for your books.

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You know that’s not true Roosh. You’ve been an inspiration to both TRP and the manosphere on whole. It pains me to read this stuff. I understand why you’re doing it, but what’s going to happen after you follow in Tucker Max’s footsteps?

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You were a fair ally up to recently, but you have decided to align yourself with the emotional “red pill” mob.

I’m surprised at your foolish choice, because you were there to witness how adoring that subreddit was of me a few years ago, and how this year they soundly turned against me. You think they won’t do the same to you? I won’t be there to help you when that happens.

Throwing away an ally for the mob is a poor choice indeed, and you will learn it soon enough. I hope it makes you wiser.

Good luck with your books.

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I’m not your enemy Roosh, I’m just confused as to why you’ve decided this. I quote and credit you in both books and will continue to, but this seems like you’re try to reinvent yourself personally and financially by blowing up the manosphere you had a major part in creating.

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“seems like” ?

No, he isn’t trying to extract maximum financial gain, he’s doing something he believes in, and he wants to help other men. $50 to go to a lecture is very affordable.

Roosh is right. you are aligning yourself with an emotional mob. I’m very sad about that as I admire your work a great deal and purchased your first book.

I will not be buying any more of your books. ever.

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I’m not sure why you’re seeing it this way Rollo, maybe you’ve let all the keyboard jockeys over at Reddit get to you? You even brought it up yourself on Reddit – you expect a visionary and a man who helped create a movement to just coast along quietly making bang guides and never pushing the envelope? If we don’t have people doing actual work to bring this to the next level then really it’s all for nothing. Just a bunch of dudes talking on he Internet.

Instead of trying to poke holes in a person that is doing what they love, tryingt o help others and rally support, while also making a living, why don’t you try to be more supportive and look at this more objectively? If you want “The Red Pill” or whatever you want to call your ideology to proliferate and actually make a difference in the world then it has to grow. It needs mainstream attention – it needs faces and speakers. An army of bloggers isn’t going to cut it.

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If you were confused (as I am) the correct way thing to do is to ask Roosh to clarify the reasons for his rebranding, why he now disagrees with TRP, not accuse him of being a sellout. That was an emotional reaction, and I hope you’re man enough to admit it. You’re accusing a guy who was content with living in his dad’s basement of selling out for money. If you’ve followed Roosh carefully, this was a long time coming. I’ve anticipated this ever since his post on the manosphere being dead after the Mark Minter affair, and Roosh’s depressing posts which began basically after his Poosy paradise experience in Poland ended. Ever since then Roosh has realized that casual sex, and by extension any hedonism provided by an abundance of wealth, will not provide fulfilment. Of any red piller, no one can claim to have gone deeper into that life than Roosh; his conclusion is that it’s the wrong path.

That being said a distinction should be made between the Red Pill description and the Red Pill prescription. Description is what you do mostly, Rollo. You describe the reality of sexual selection and all its relevant implications. The prescription is to spin plates and live that life. It’s not clear what exactly Roosh is disagreeing with, the description, the prescription, or both, and why.

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It just seems like a logical progression to me Rollo. You learn components that add up to build a greater bigger picture is what my interpretation has been of Roosh. I like the material all you guys have written.

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He’s attempting to go big, its political in nature. Politics is messy he’ll probably have to offload some of the stuff in order to get leverage in the MSM. He’s very inconsistent with his principles. This is because principles serve his higher cause which is to gain more influence and power in the world, not simply money. You seemed to have reacted quite emotionally to all this, which is understandable given he is playing you. He isn’t being transparent, he intended it to go this way. You seem to me like a genuine guy, Roosh isn’t but no politicians are. If you want power and influence you can’t be a guy like that it doesn’t work. People are a means to an end, red pill is a means to an end, you are a means to an end, neo-masculinity is a means to an end.

I note that his army of forumites and commenters like obedient rats have suddenly realized that “red pill” was wrong all along, missed the bigger picture. Its like it happened over night or something lol. Its a co-ordinated effort as all his moves are. He’s not to be trusted, but that is how it works. Politicians routinely stab each other in the back, its just how the game is played.

For those that would like to see Roosh fail I think that his downfall will be racial politics. I really hope he does go big though because I just want someone to fck over all the bullshitters on the tv. I just want someone on tv who can make one of those lefty/fembot/fake equalists look like the lying 2 faced cunts they are.

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I think ‘red pill’ has split between the neoreactionary crowd and the hard ‘alpha beta’ types. Red pill as a concept is still sound, but ideology has a way of making itself felt.

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Rollo:

I think you are by far the best of the Manosphere writers at doing what you do, which is exploring intergender dynamics in a clear, systematized way (though it is a bit cerebral for the masses). The information you provided helped me save my marriage a couple years ago. I’m grateful for that and still follow your work.

With that said, permit me to make two criticisms:

1. You are not very effective at marketing. I’m sure you would agree with that. Yeah, I know you are doing this all as a side gig and need to keep your cover and your day job. This is the vast majority of manosphere men. However, to effectively promote these ideas, we need some people who can do so openly, publicly and aggressively. There are millions of men out there who need help. Paying a little bit of money is not an issue for many of us. I don’t begrudge Roosh if he is able to make a couple of million out of this, as long as he’s genuinely helping men. Think of all the men you don’t reach, but could if you promoted yourself better. Their pain and suffering is at least as real as your principles.

2. You don’t want to pollute the message. I get that. You will focus only on intergender relations. However, looking at the big picture, men ultimately need more. To create a movement that has a chance of making some kind of bigger change, we need more comprehensive ideas. I am still on the fence about this latest initiative from Roosh, as I don’t know exactly where he is going with it. However, I’m willing to give it a chance. So far it seems that, despite all its flaws, ROK has been able to reach a lot of men with important content (though quality of posts varies a LOT).

The world doesn’t need another Tucker Max (let’s hope Roosh can become more than that), but it doesn’t need another Rollo either (no one is going to surpass your work in your field).

Pains me to see you guys fighting, and I don’t think anything good can come from that.

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Whatever you do- don’t become like Art of Manliness! Their advice is dated by decades (ie: “have a variety of beverages for your lady”), hokey (a guy reminiscing on pointless experiences from his childhood), blue pill (just see their “Relationships” section). Their articles are FLAT- whenever they give advice on a topic like “charisma”, you can tell the author isn’t coming at it from a real-life perspective. You can tell the author doesn’t have any charisma HIMSELF. What has always made this corner of the manosphere unique is that what we tell each other comes from a place of personal experience – storytelling – it is “real”. Our observations are current- and reflect the reality on the ground today.

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Mabye they give shit advice on purpose – they have to neuter western men and white men, so they can conquer the society. All of this is banker propaganda against western populations. Greed, control and racial supremacy is behind it all.

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Congratulations on the video Roosh, this is liquid gold. But I only disagree on one subject: playing videogames is not the opossite to self-improvement; tha day is long enough to read, learn, work, and have some fun.

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Good for you, just don’t follow on the footsteps of Tucker Max as someone said. Your books are great.

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There is no simple way to fix marriage. Marriage has been on the decline for decades and will eventually go extinct for all but the wealthy. Recent research (Breaking Up Is Hard to Count: The Rise of Divorce in the United States, 1980) shows that the divorce rate, rather then getting better has been getting worse. In 2012, not including California, there were 2.4 million divorces. California, with 40 million residents, stopped reporting their divorce rate more than two decades ago. Why? They had a 75% divorce rate for four straight reporting periods. Four other states stopped reporting their divorce rates as well. What does this mean? It means that the 50% divorce rate is at best a conservative estimate. Those with a vested interest in promoting marriage will tell you that only 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce.

I’ve been single, married and divorced and can say with all sincerity that getting married was the most horrific decision of my life. I gave another human being legal, emotional, psychological, physical, spiritual and financial power over my life – and she used that power to destroy me. I thank God every day that I didn’t have kids with her and that our marriage was short. Never again will I give someone that kind of power in my life. Those pushing marriage should realize that tens upon tens of millions of men, over the past 40+ years, have been destroyed through marriage and divorce – which is the real reason why men are opting out. The three books every male should read in high school are (1) The Manipulated Man, (2) The Myth of Male Power and (3) Stand by Your Manhood. This of course will never happen. Why? Schools are now controlled by feminists (hypergynocentrists).

Men opting out of marriage has long been a dreaded act in all societies. Every effort is being made to shift the cost of single mothers to men (single/unmarried men paying for abortion, birth control, maternity costs, paid maternity leave, all forms of welfare). Men pay the vast majority of taxes but the vast majority of discretionary spending at the state and federal level for related programs go to women’s health, education and welfare. Women have Affirmative Action, Affirmative Consent, alimony, child support, Title IX, the VAWA and they live longer. Do women pay for men’s higher auto insurance premiums?

Be wary of those with the “I’ve been married for 20+ years and it’s wonderful” stories. Many of them will one day be on a divorce support site writing things like, “I can’t believe this is happening to me. It came out of the blue. She was my soul mate. I never thought this could happen to me!” Grey divorce is now and has been the fastest growing sector of divorce for many years.

Most of the advice you’ll get to save marriage is all focused on keeping the wife happy. It’s the “happy wife – happy life” response. This advice has been given for decades – to no avail. Again – many a man giving that advice will one day find himself divorced, broke and suicidal. Divorce is filed most often by women because (1) even now, men are the majority of breadwinners, (2) no-fault divorce means the wife can cash out at will and (3) the courts are biased in favor of women (gynocentric).

No matter how many times you tell people the real reason marriage is dying, they’ll deny it. Everything is always the man’s fault – so the fix will always be presented with a gynocentric taint or be blatantly gynocentric. If the wife divorces, the man didn’t make her happy. If the man divorces, he’s a cheating, loathsome misogynist. You’ll be told that men live longer when married (horribly skewed lie), that most people want to get married but can’t financially (even though it’s cheaper to share expenses) and because cohabitation is the easy way out. In the UK, they’re working on the ‘Cohabitation Rights Bill’, which will force legal marriage after X number of months of cohabitation. It’s being billed as a way to make breakups after long terms relationships more fair to women – by giving them the same rights to alimony and asset division that married women enjoy. Several countries already have this law and the marriage rates there have declined even further. Soon, it will not only be unwise to marry, but also unwise to cohabit.

Marriage is dying because it is the most corrupt, gynocentric institution in existence.

How did women think they could walk away from their traditional roles and think that men wouldn’t do the same? The female mind is defective or it’s purposeful ignorance.

The media (movies, books, TV, music) have long been used to shape (brainwash) social behavior and attitudes, often with significant damage done to the target audience for the benefit of a particular class or group. Promoting marriage is asking men to sign the most anti-male contract on earth. Yet – all of media (movies, books, music, TV) push men into destroying their own lives through marriage.

Why is it that so many fear men standing up for themselves and saying, “I’m not going to marry you. I’m not going to cohabit with you. I’m not going to sign a contract that gives you the power to destroy my life. I can stay single, regardless of whether or not I get sex and not go through the anti-male, life destroying process of marriage and divorce. There is nothing good in marriage for men – so I refuse to get married.”

It’s such an obviously righteous male sentiment – but will nevertheless be attacked by those with destructive, wholly naive, patently gynocentric, delusional illusions and enchantments regarding male disposability. The same anti-male thinking goes into male-only selective service. Cultural misandry is so deeply embedded that the majority of women are fine with male-only selective service. Male disposablity is a culturally accepted norm among women.

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Only the current laws and state mind set enable this. Should someone create fair laws, this would cease very soon.

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If you remove the financial incentive for women to marry – then women will remain unmarried – which is why prostitution is the oldest profession.

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I might be too naïve, but I think if the natural flow of the job market would be left undisturbed (i.e. women would only choose feminine, low paying jobs like nursing, teaching, etc. and there wouldn’t be state and corporate encouragement for them to choose manly jobs like IT, engineering, etc.) and welfare would be reduced effectively, that should give them enough financial incentives to marry, without relying to robbing men. What do you think?

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I don’t think so. If you look to Sweden, I think that’s where we’re heading. The Swedish government recently threatened to heavily fine or dissolve corporations that don’t have at least a 40% female board membership. That’s naked Marxism/socialism. That’s forced redistribution of wealth and power from men to women. That’s destruction of the patriarchy. Why aren’t there laws demanding women die 40% of the time in war or in work place deaths? I know why. Do you?

Don’t be naive.

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My only guess is this:
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/the-fundamental-premise/
Although this is exactly the stuff being questioned right now.
I agree with you that you guys (I’m not American) are heading to the Swedish way, I’m just wondering if marriage would survive (i.e. women would have financial incentives) under more natural (less socialist) conditions (like undisturbed job market and less welfare). I know that this is only a thought experiment, and the Swedish fate is the likely way of things going in the future.

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Exactly. Great reply. The only way things will change is if men claim their sovereignty. Otherwise, men will always live as slaves to the gynocracy (live as naive, white knights). You can’t bargain effectively from the position of boot licking.

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Marriage was killed over one hundred years ago with the original feminist tender years doctrine. The entire point of marriage, and patriarchy, is to establish paternal kin selection so that men have a reasonable belief that his children are actually his children. And he owns the children.

This is gone now. The solution is to bring it back. We could make up a new contact where a woman could give her reproducing ability to a man so that the children are his. They do not belong to the woman and we must fight them further becoming state property. As that is the real goal. The state raising children to be loyal to the state.

Remember in 1984 your children have become your enemy as the state are their parents. We are already living this and it’s getting worse.

When the misandry bubble pops we must not push for the state to take the children from women but for a new contract to appear where women can actually give children to men. And can’t take it back whenever they get bored.

We could push this with the homos. Fight for homo rights where a woman grants a man, even a defective homo man, the children. They are his property.

If rich alpha men have access to this contract they will find hot women who will sign it. And these status whores will push this status symbol, of granting a man his own children, and other cows in the herd will follow along. As cows are prone to do.

If you want more info in this search Google for Daniel Amneus a Case for Father Custody. It’s a free pdf and should be on the sidebar. Ok here’s the link. This is important info:

http://www.fathermag.com/news/Case_for_Father_Custody.pdf

We must fight the state to take our children back! Even if we must destroy the government to do it. This guy, who ran for governer of Tokyo, is who we all need to become.

https://youtu.be/df7jOd6HcIY

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For your sake, I’m glad to hear that you have re-focused. It seemed that you were burning out from the casual sex around the world life, so it’s good to see you trumpeting broader political/cultural issues. Regards.

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For what it’s worth, there’s nothing I disagree with regarding the tenets of “neomasculinity”, but I find it a bit strange to include “Red Pill Truths” as part of those tenets while simultaneously denouncing those truths here.

Care to explain?

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Rollo you really damaged the lines of communication by writing that comment on the 18 ways to get laid. The result is now a back and forth of ad hominem attacks between you and Roosh. I’m hoping you two can grow up and shake hands like men and then proceed to have an intellectual conversation on what the future of the manosphere should be and why. This will take a while for you two to sort out as I’m sure Roosh has reasons that he has yet to share with us for why he has abandoned the Red Pill and which conclusions he disagrees with and why. I suggest apologizing to Roosh if you want this to go anywhere, since you began the mudslinging.

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There are “red pill truths” and then there are theredpill subreddit. I think these two are sometimes mixed up a little the subreddit having a big newbie bluepillish participation.

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“Red Pill” is the entire ideological platform.

“Red pill truth” is a way of seeing a world. It can be simply reduced to “truth” but I wanted to throw “red pill” in there as an homage.

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Not to disagree with your definition and criticism for what “The Red Pill” became, just that originally it was a metaphor for truth about the nature of men and women (women especially), and where the “blue pill” was systematic obliteration of any recognition of the legitimacy of those truths by culture.

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AF/BB is a real phenomenon. However it’s obvious that women aren’t strongly attracted to Alpha male semen in the way that is commonly described on the man-o-sphere. Any chubby, middle-aged woman can set up a free account on Ashley Maddison and guzzle Alpha semen by the gallon every night of the week. 90% of the female population doesn’t do this. To most women having sex with an Alpha doesn’t mean very much. Locking down an Alpha is the prize and sex is one tool women use to accomplish that. Many men get goals and game-play confused.

In certain ways there is a huge disconnect in how women behave and how they are described in the man-o-sphere.

The guys that women are most intensely attracted to are neither Alphas nor Betas. Women are attracted to children and motherhood. For reference look at how women smile at their children and compare that to how they smile at their husbands/boyfriends. It’s not even close. The fact that women are most strongly attracted to motherhood is rarely if ever addressed.

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The alpha/beta male distinction is not as sharp as TRP asserts it is (it’s more of a continuum), but similar to how physics uses models which simplify reality, it still explains the female sexual selection strategy. Furthermore, their view of history (i.e. that men in the past were even comparable to the beta males of today) is laughable. If you travel to an Arab country today, you’ll find something remarkable; virtually all the men are alpha in their behaviour. Beta males don’t exist there as far as behaviour is concerned. Sure, there are social class distinctions based on wealth, status, prestige, in which women will obviously find a man who is more wealthy as more attractive; but even a man of low social status there has a natural alpha attitude. Historically speaking it was similar in every other part of the world. The beta male imo is a recent phenomenon and is the product of feminism. He’s the androgynous man. The beta male of the past still had alpha behaviour by today’s standards, but was of low social status (if that makes sense.)

For this reason, an additional distinction needs to be made in the manosphere; being alpha/beta in terms of social status and being alpha/beta in terms of behaviour. These are two different things, as we have rich guys like Mark Zuckerburg who are beta in behaviour but have alpha social status, and we have poor guys like your average Russian man, or men of the past, who are alpha in behaviour but beta in social status. Women are attracted to alpha traits in both social status and behaviour, but of the two, behaviour is more important as far as love is concerned, and social status is more important as far as settling down is concerned. The Red Pill currently never takes this into account and needs to rework their current theories on what constitutes an alpha male and what constitutes a beta male. This, in my view, is the biggest error made by guys like Rollo and Roissy (other than the prescriptive errors of telling dudes to waste their life chasing tail).

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I agree. Alpha personality is one half and Alpha social status (abundance) is the other. A man needs to work on both.

I want to add that if a man doesn’t want his life’s focus to be women he should avoid spinning plates. Anybody in business will tell you that nothing requires more time and energy than a start-up.

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I also agree with your comments on motherhood. Imo this is the greatest female instinct which is suppressed in the modern woman because they are told that it is socially unnacceptable for them to have children when they are in their biological prime. No doubt that deep down a woman’s body is shouting to her to get pregnant and this creates subsequent psychological stress. Just look at some of those ghetto teenage girls who intentionally get pregnant; they say very clearly that they desire to have a child who loves them.

There is also another consequence of your insight about motherhood. Throughout the manosphere, especially with the MGTOW guys but even on Rollo’s blog, there is this general agreement that men always lose in relationships. This is only because these gentlemen only look at relationships from outside the perspective of having a large traditional family. If you’re talking about just you and a girl, no kids; yes you lose. You have to put in way more effort to charm her and get in her pants, and usually the man will end up putting more money into the relationship too. (As Roissy once said, a man is lucky to break even, even if he is alpha. Imo only pimps/giggolos are exceptions to this.) But if you take into account that women are primarily responsible for raising your children; the balance shifts. Women have to expend extraordinary amounts of effort to raise children as compared to men, and for that reason, their parasitism is really a form of payment that is more than justified. This is something most MGTOWs don’t understand and for this reason most of them go beyond the standard disapproval of the current circumstances; rather they hate the state of nature itself because of this percieved injustice. I’ve heard Barbarrossa (their leading ideologue) say it myself. He said that even if things were ideal for men like in traditional times, they still lose because women parasite off them. This is because he doesn’t take into account a huge part of feminine nature; motherhood.

I really hope Rollo reads these comments and replies to them on his blog or something. I’m wondering what his opinion is and whether he’ll adjust current Red Pill doctrines accordingly. Someone should send him an email directing him to this thread.

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I’d never really looked at it that way but that’s correct. Getting pregnant permanently lowers female SMV and it costs literally tens of thousands of hours. Our wives make enormous investments and sacrifices for our children. Despite these costs most women have a tremendous desire to be a mother. This part of the equation is never discussed or analyzed.

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This part of the equation is never discussed or analysed.”
Which is not surprising seeing the efforts to supress these female instincts. But yeah, the guy’s right.

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Well, CMG, you definitely set off DR01D, and he took that straight to Rollo’s forums. So the idea got discussed, though it was through the AF/BB lens.

I think you’ve got an interesting idea, and there’s a pressure point in there that men haven’t fully learned how to push on. When they figure it out within the Culture War, the results will probably be fairly epic. But as an external observer, I’d guess 2-3 TRP/NM cultural evolution cycles away. Or a little while after the point when many Millennials start hitting the wall and grasping the marriage strike.

You may not like this example, but Israel is a really interesting case. It isn’t just that the very orthodox are having lots of kids. Though they are. It’s that they’ve shifted both the level of religion and the average number of kids within Israel’s secular society. Which doesn’t like the religious, and is still pretty feminist in a Western sense.

I don’t fully understand how they did that. But I’d like to. It’s just below Fethullah Gulen on the “how in heaven did they do that” list.

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I read droid’s rant on tRM, but I didn’t agree with him completely. I think Rollo rebutted his points well. Droid’s final point was that motherhood was a seperate instinct, and i think that has some validity, but it isn’t a sexual selection strategy. Plus I think that giving side of women comes out when they are trying to lock down an alpha. Just look at the extent hoes are willing to go to earn the love of pimps. Or the way 1950’s wives served their husbands.

Not exactly sure if the Israeli orthodox are exploiting a pressure point of women’s instincts for motherhood so much as they are creating the right environment for it to happen. For example, they are hold a mother in much higher esteem, removing stigma around early marriage, have a much higher stigma for a woman who is unable to land a man, create stronger family values, etc. Plus there is a political necessity for Israelis to reproduce at high rates, if they don’t then in a hundred years the palestinians will outnumber them 10:1. Not to mention the surrounding Arab countries. More babies = more soldiers.

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Without Alpha Social Status, a man cannot have Alpha Social Power… and without social power, you aren’t “alpha,” because without other men’s social co-operation, you won’t achieve jack shit. In fact, other men will go out of their way to ruin you so you don’t have power.

Incidentally, this was one of the problems Gilgamesh had – the god-king from “the oldest story.” One of his problems was that he had “divine rights” to women, and he rode around the countryside banging people’s wives willy nilly, which pissed a lot of people off.

Scroll to the bottom of page for “The Keynesian Sexual Marketplace”

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I think most PEOPLE in the west have become zombies, having lost all sense and free will. They have no survival instinct and will do as the media instructs them.

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Roosh,

I’m a bit confused as to the distinction between Neomasculinity and the Red Pill. Your one paragraph was insufficient to explain the difference between the two movements and I will explain why here (to give you an idea of what you should elaborate on.) My request is for you to reply here to write a detailed post answering this comment.

First, your main intellectual critic of the Red Pill is that they found their worldview on evolutionary psychology, which, for reasons you read in Darwinian Fairytales, is not able to explain the full scope of human behaviour. However, this critic is insufficient; you must go beyond that and show specifically what conclusions of TRP are false and why. This includes both their descriptive account of reality, as well as their prescriptive account of what men should do. Of the two, it’s more important to critic their description of reality and explain why it is false. Simply pointing out that evolutionary psychology doesn’t explain everything doesn’t mean that what they’ve explained in terms of sexual selection strategies is false; especially when virtually everyone who gets into game can see the theories are sound for themselves.

Second, your assertion that there is no council of elders seems false, although you are in a better position to know. The council of elders for the Red Pill, up until very recently, was yourself, Roissy, and Rollo as the big 3, and a few others who made valuable contributions (Dalrock, and Vox.) Every major idea you find in the Red Pill community has its origins in one of these major blogs, and the mob which you speak of is controlled entirely by these voices. If tomorrow Rollo and Roissy endorsed neomasculinity, you would find virtually no dissidents in the red pill community. Also Dalrock kind of already endorses neomasculinity since his brand of Red Pill was Christian and hence never about getting laid. This uncontrollable mob seems to be from your perspective as a leader, but from a third person perspective you actually have fairly good control over the direction of the mob.

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If this is the direction western society is to go, I suspect it will not be a winning move as it does not solve the core problems behind society, many of which are due to banking fraud and subsequent social manipulation. It will merely be the end quite swan-song of a society that is hell-bent on its own destruction.

Q: Why do the bankers need to continue paying western men a decent salary, especially now they control the money, they can run off anywhere in the world, and they now control the food supply which is brought in from fragile networks which originate in other countries?
A: They don’t. Now that western society is spiritually corrupt and morally perjured from the average citizen funding wars with the taxes etc.. the banker doesn’t need western men any longer or feminism. He just will replace the natives and/or destroy the society to maintain the resources (eg oil) whilst getting rid of the consumers (ie you and me).

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It’s a step in the right direction. Establishing solid family units is definitely a great stride forward in the larger fight against the bankers. In fact, it’s a necessary step.

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“you must go beyond that and show specifically what conclusions of TRP are false and why. ”

Have patience.

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The haters that are accusing Roosh of doing this as a cash-grab need to consider the amount of income he is foregoing by making this change in direction. Roosh is not denouncing red pill truths, he’s saying they are insufficient to promote a solution to the problem being analyzed. He’s also saying that the red pill subreddit is a space controlled by the very enemy that the subreddit has declared war upon, i.e. feminists like Ellen Pao. The point is that the subreddit is as doomed as the German army was in Stalingrad. Winning battles but losing the war. They’re walking northbound on a southbound ship.

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No i think he’s also denouncing Red Pill truths because he disagrees with evolutionary psychology, which founds the entire RP theory. Roosh needs to write a detailed post explaining his position more clearly, and delineating what he accepts from TRP and what he rejects.

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I confess to not knowing much about evolutionary psychology in particular, but I know a thing or two about psychology in general. Psychology is not a science. Freud never conducted any research utilizing the scientific method in a rigorous manner, and he never cured or healed any patient. Freud’s student Jung went off in his own direction, similarly to the way Roosh is blazing a trail, and Jung had more success then Freud in his treatment of patients. I still say Roosh is expanding on, rather than denouncing TRP. You might say he is re-inventing it, and some might say that is arrogant, but maybe it needs to be done in order for it to evolve, and if not by Roosh, then by whom?

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I don’t think he is aware necessarily of any ulterior motive – I just don’t think that his social theory (?) will change the underlying sickness of western society and is merely a way to passively become what the society wants from you (blind obedience) before it goes tits up a decade or so from now. Perhaps that’s okay for some guys, but it is a hollow experience. I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

Western men cannot be as their ancestors were, but there is a lot to be learned from past eras. The Roman Empire became decadent and we live in its collapsing phase as Byzantium. Perhaps collapse is inevitable due to peak evil from our leaders and peak ignorance of the masses, who if they could only learn the basics, like loving God and loving each other(no more abortions, no frivorce, no more accepting passively of staged wars etc..), would have a better outcome. The degeneracy of today’s west is appaling once you have you eyes opened.

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The Roman Empire became decadent and we live in its collapsing phase as Byzantium.

Absolutely spot on!

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I wish more people could just learn spirituality and turning to God. The vast majority of religions are similar and share a similar history. I suspect they all talk of the same God (bar perhaps one, which is pure Luciferianism). Christianity and other religions have their flaws, yet they were a better basis for society than consumerism and abortion rights etc..

All these religions talk of an end period of time too, where the human race becomes vastly reduced in number due to its folly. I suspect sooner rather than later, which is why Christ and many others called for people to repent as we are all guilty on some level – no one is perfect, especially if his actions have consequences which he/she cannot foresee. The worst is when false prophets preach, even those are found within Church and mainstream Christianity, which has become subverted. A one on one relationship by those seeking God works, not worldly doctrines which are not based on truth.

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Amen bro.

But Christianity has built a lot of blue pill AFC’s. We’ve strayed from the spirit of wisdom. I thank God for the red pill!

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The only thing I don’t get is what do you mean by “shaky pop-evolution” and why do you question the basis of RP stuff; from a neomasculine perspective, they just highlight why neomasculinity (=cultural regression for the better?) is needed. But I’m looking forward your clarification article, hoping that the “council” will stick together.

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The great advantage that women will have over men in this culture battle is that men’s currency is self-reliance and pride where women’s currency is consensus.

The manosphere is a great thing and I’d hate to see it fall apart over petty infighting. I think the differences between mgtow, red-pill, neomasculinity, PUA, etcetera, are meaningful and valuable. To say that the mgtow should go fuck off and die, or that neomasculinity is a trad-con throwback, or that PUA are part of the problem seems stupid unless this is simply a means to further the dialogue.

Divide and conquer is the name of the game.
United we stand, divided we fall.

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“United we stand, divided we fall” – that has been the problem since the beginning. Men demanding men band together as herd creatures, like women, in order to ameliorate their differences, rather than seeking out and using their own unique masculine qualities to fight back.

If we fight back as women, isn’t that just more androgyny – the very thing destroying us?

“United we stand” is female-principled herd thinking.

The Wolf Pack represents masculinity:

Be Strong Enough to Stand Alone
Be Yourself Enough to Stand Apart
Be Wise Enough to Stand Together When the Time Comes.

It seems this is what Roosh wants to do… and since I’ve done it myself repeatedly in the Manosphere, I fully support him in it!

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I actually agree with you. The manosphere needs leaders and a variety of perspectives/talents.
I just think we have to keep our eyes on the goal rather than derail our focus too much on infighting. The kind of internal bitching that trolls do.
I don’t want Rok to waste time on pettiness.

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There can be growth by constantly questioning and refining the status quo.

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The late Steven Covey in his book – The 7 Habits of highly Effective people — stated that one must strive to achieve self reliance or independence. But after that there is something bigger – and that is to become interdependent. That means one is to force oneself to become dependent on others – thereby integrating in the community and working for everyone’s benefit. So the Wolf pack view of Masculinity is really just the first stage of achieving self reliance. Just look at older men who are really successful in their personal lives — they are the ones who learned to become interdependent – and often engaged in spiritual endeavors.

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All we’re all doing is sharing a seat on a ship, a ship that’s sinking, and then stating in 1000 ways

“hey look guys the ship is sinking!”

“o rly” yes ti’s Ship really is sinking, ah ill stay on it and do nothing

“reads another article about how the ship is sinking”

“o rly” ship is sinking in this way, that way”

its like religions, at the end of the day, they have different gods, different ways to pray, different interesting mythological stories, but the consensus is that if you act moral, somehow you will live forever in paradise

It does not matter WHY or HOW the ship is sinking and we do not need more articles stating the various ways in which it is sinking, OR WHICH PLACE TO MOVE TO WHERE THE SHITSTORM MIGHT BE CLEARER

1)WHO/WHAT IS STEERING THE SHIP?
2)WHY ARE WE ON A SINKING SHIP?WHY NOT FORM OUR OWN SHIP
3)HOW TO SAIL AWAY FROM THE SHITSTORM

OPTION 4)

IF WE CAN’T AVOID A SHIT STORM, LET’S BE GOOD RUTHLESS SAILORS , THIS IS THE BEST OPTION IMO, THE SHIT STORM IS GONNA SPREAD ANYWAY, SO FUCK IT, BE A GOOD SAILOR

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I’m currently trying to roll with options 2 and 3.
But in the end it’s every man for himself. When those survival instincts kick in all bets are off.

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way too much over-thinking across the board. Today, I walked into a small coffeeshop, only to hear the 3 ‘baristas” behind the counter ( 2 girls in a heated discussion about “how” to propery respond to rape news, with the one guy obviously cornered and awkward.) This is a whole new problem too: Entitlement beyond reason. It’s lIke “you work at a fucking coffeeshop, shut your damn mouths” The customers , including me, where all lined up, and subjected to this loud scene.

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I don’t see the reason for all the beef. The Red Pill encompasses pretty much everyone – sometimes even the PUAHATe crowd who hate Game. Within the Red Pill there are different individual directions and anyone can pick a path or forge his own at his leisure.

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I’m an EC at the TRP sub and many of us have seen the sharp decline. Allowing links as posts is bad enough. A few of the ECs have tried to get things back on track but we’ve already mostly moved on to other subs. Many of which are private and by invite only. Where greater issues of power and hierarchy in our culture are discussed. And the true problems, of which feminism is just a symptom.

I know you are with us and I fully support men moving past fucking some stupid sluts and us defining masculinity ourselves.

Learning some game and getting your dick wet is fine. But it is in no way a solution.

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I hold no grudge due to my recent treatment on TRP, and know that the tantrum going on there is a sign to the senior members that a wrong direction was taken.

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Yesterday I discovered that the reddit admins have shadow banned my TRP account but only from one sub, theredpill. I am not shadow banned from any other sub, at all, but as of last night I am shadow banned from theredpill. As an NRx endorsed contributor who encourages men to react and not just fuck these stupid sluts. It gets old.

We need to get off reddit. I have no idea who is even running the sub anymore.

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Update on theredpill sub. It appears that glo and a few of the other ECs, working with at least two of the mods, have taken over the sub. They have instituted automod shadow bans on the ECs that disagree with their plans. The plan?

To monetize the red pill sub for profit. So that’s coming hard right now. The noise to signal ratio is going to increase as this group doesn’t care about quality, only quantity. And expect a push to have “super ECs” selling their products through the sub.

Abandon ship!

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OT: I would like to read some reactions to the Josh Duggar story. If he had petted some neighbor girls and left his sisters alone, we wouldn’t necessarily call it “molestation,” but rather the fumbling efforts of a young man who started to explore the mystery of Game.

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It would be very interesting to get together the 4-5 heads of these tenants for a round table discussion youtube video at some point. Maybe down the road, while slightly political seeming in nature it would be, it would shed real light on the broad spectrum of historical development that has occurred in men waking up from their societal slumber.

While I’ll never subscribe fully to anything like MGTOW or MRA, PUA (having a big lifestyle driver component) and Red Pill will always be evolving I suspect. With Red Pill the majority of your epiphanies will occur daily/weekly at first until you really internalize the truth. It probably the hardest part for everyone here, because it’s so depressing at first. Like a soldier with PTSD you are left in awe. Every month the details of my red pill observances being played out still create smaller, less dramatic discoveries, just not the face melters they were in the first few years.

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Re badge red pill in order to disassociate from the others. Noticed you have blocked Rollo on twitter. Looking to break free from the others and pretend that neo-masculinity is a radical break from red pill when a lot of it is the same ideas. Roosh is very strong politically, he builds bases well, knows how to use the internet, how to get ahead. Looking to raise the bar and aim a lot higher than internet blogging level. Looking forward to seeing how this pans out and whether there will be a lot more mainstream engagement. Not having a face for a lot of the others destroys credibility Roosh is out there its his trump card.

However I don’t believe Roosh is primarily interested in consistent principles. His main aim is Machiaveliian and power/influence driven. Principles are less important than influence which all politicians know. Interested to see what the evolution thing is all about, again I would say that its less about the objective truth of the matter and more about where he can position himself in order to get maximum affect (some alignment with tradcon, religious right?).

This is not meant as a criticism, the opposite, nobody can expect to make big strides in this sort of arena, without intellectual fudge and compromise. Ive found a lot of these blogs have become a bit boring re-hashing the same ideas over and over. Offloading them is probably a good idea in the long game. Roosh is the ONLY guy involved in all this “manosphere” who ever looked like he could go big, and after all if its not going to go big then whats really the point? To have a small area of the internet where anonymous guys can share non-conformist positions. Great to a point but Roosh sees the bigger game.

I think Rollo is hurt by all this, feels a bit let down cut out etc. I think he is right that its a deliberate attempt to make a break and maybe even destroy the manosphere by making it utterly toothless the way those neo-reactionaries are. The reason people can shame all this is that internet blogging is low status. Anonymous commenting is low status, nobody really cares its got no bite. Just being on TV, even if ridiculed, is higher status.

Roosh has an edge that none of the others have you can see it in his videos. Its the desire for power/influence. Really hoping this goes reasonably big quickly. Im sick of all the bs on MSM, needs people like Roosh to go after it not hide away on blogs.

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I think Roosh’s thinking genuinely changes over time (with age and experience) and is not only contrived for maximum impact. At the same time there is no doubt Roosh is playing a game of chess.

If you follow his writing long enough you can almost predict his next philosophical “epiphany.” From the notion of clown-game to the idea of modern men as evolutionary dead-ends, etc. You can trace the logic from point to point, and this is part of why the development of the manosphere is so much more interesting than the garbage we see on television.

Roosh has some skin in the game and is prepared to make himself a public representative.

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Before today, I had no problems co-existing with MGTOW and TRP, and believe they still serve a role for guys entering this part of the sphere. They chose this bitter outcome.

“I think Rollo is hurt by all this, feels a bit let down cut out etc. ”

That’s funny, considering he started laying down snark against me a month ago on Twitter and TRP. If he feels let down, it’s from his own doing by publicly attacking someone he claims to “respect.” If you publicly come after me or disparage/hurt one of my sites, we’re going separate ways.

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It’s pretty disappointing that Rollo is acting in such a feminine manner, i.e. making snarky disrespectful comments and then if you call him out on it, he acts like you’re overreacting …

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Where does Athol Kay fit in?

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Man-o-sphere failure #1. It is self evident that AF/BB is not the primary driving force behind women.

I’ve read hundreds of articles/threads on the man-o-sphere and I can’t remember a single one that correctly postulated that motherhood was the strongest force driving female behavior. And it’s #1 by a mile. Women don’t smile at us the way they smile at children.

The way some authors write you’d think women were primarily concerned with branch swinging and collecting copious amounts of Alpha semen. In most cases that is fundamentally incorrect. ANY woman can cheat with a man several SMV points higher than her. She can set it up tonight. The fact that most don’t tells you more about female interests than 1,000 articles on RM.

Red Pill attempts to explain and predict female behavior without ever considering that wombs are for having babies. This fact is never analyzed with serious thought or reflection. RP does not discuss the core of the female experience. To most women children are more enthralling than men. Look at their faces for confirmation of this self evident fact.

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I want to add that although feminist theory is wrong about virtually everything at least they understand that sex is the prime driver of male behavior.

The man-o-sphere still hasn’t codified the fact that children are the prime driver of female behavior. For a group of guys trying to explain women that’s a fairly big data point to miss.

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“To most women children are more enthralling than men. The man-o-sphere still hasn’t codified the fact that children are the prime driver of female behavior.”

Only children from the BEST men that women THINK they can get which matters. If simply children from ANY men is truly the prime driver of female behavior then abortions would not exist and women who got pregnant courtesy of foreign male invaders will thank their lucky stars because they will become mothers and have children instead of lamenting that the males of their own tribe failed to defend them from the rampaging raping invaders.

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It’s not children it’s infants. And there is not much to discuss. Read Schopenhauer:

It is certainly a revolting idea that widows should sacrifice themselves on their husband’s dead body; but it is also revolting that the money which the husband has earned by working diligently for all his life, in the hope that he was working for his children, should be wasted on her paramours. Medium tenuere beati. The first love of a mother, as that of animals and men, is purely instinctive, and consequently ceases when the child is no longer physically helpless. After that, the first love should be reinstated by a love based on habit and reason; but this often does not appear, especially where the mother has not loved the father. The love of a father for his children is of a different nature and more sincere; it is founded on a recognition of his own inner self in the child, and is therefore metaphysical in its origin.

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“The man-o-sphere still hasn’t codified the fact that children are the prime driver of female behavior.”

If you read RoK’s articles and the comments below, this is constantly said and referred as a part of traditional cultures

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The AF/BB paradigm also implies that it’s the BB that get to reproduce, albeit with the reformed slut. By TRP’s own evolutionary paradigm, they are admitting that betas are winning the evolutionary race over the alphas.

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Hi Roosh, but even in that case the motherhood aspect of AF/BB is a tertiary afterthought.

In the real world women eagerly sign up to become mothers despite the fact that child rearing causes a substantial and permanent hit to their SMV. AF/BB doesn’t speak to that. On paper AF/BB makes sense but in reality it doesn’t describe very much.

Despite countless postings to the contrary women don’t lose the ability to get Alpha sex at age 30. Women can get as much NSA Alpha sex as they want right up to menopause. Sex from even the highest status men is cheap and easy to come by. What women lose as the wall approaches is the ability to lock down an Alpha. That’s what the epiphany phase is about.

Sperm is cheap. Arnold Schwarzenegger’s mistress and son for reference.

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Roosh, I underestimated you. In 2009 while reading your old blog I thought you’d tire of this and return to West Bumfuck, USA, and resign yourself to being an auto parts salesman. You’ve proven me wrong. Congratulations. Onwards and upwards, bro.

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Recent photos of the adult Josh Duggar show soft, beta-ish features. I suspect the indignation over his alleged “molestation” back in his teen years of his sisters and of some girls outside of the family derives from the sense that he stepped out of bounds into alpha boy territory, when he should have stayed in the sexual reserves like a good beta so that he could “develop himself and wait” for his turn at sexual relationships in his 20’s.

We know how well that plan works out for a lot of beta boys. And we really need to call bullshit on this idea that you prepare for sexual relationships by doing unrelated things, like studying math to become an actuary or whatever. Sexual experience is its own training.

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God bless you, Roosh.

And Rollo too! You two men (and others) are giving us hope.

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Any plans to extend these efforts outside the Anglosphere? I’ve been living in France for five years, and while the situation here is generally better than in the US (many French women still know how to be feminine, at least), the same problems still exist among both genders and seem to be getting worse. Third wave feminism is propagated everywhere, even if men here might push back a bit more. What’s interesting is that neo-masculine ideas have already hit the mainstream here a while ago: in 2006 a journalist named Éric Zemmour published a book called Le Premier Sexe decrying the evils of feminism, the masculinization of women and the femininization of men. It caused a lot of debate when it came out, and the guy is still in the mainstream media a lot. He could be a potential ally if neomasculinity seeks to reach beyond the Anglosphere.

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In terms of a French equivalent of the manosphere, though, I haven’t encountered much beyond PUA-oriented stuff, and even then not of very high quality. Mostly salesmen.

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There’s too much work to be done in the Anglosphere. Frenchmen will have to organize on their own.

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Didn’t the French invent feminism?

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Not as I understand it – for example, http://www.returnofkings.com/54181/feminism-comes-full-circle-into-embracing-aristotles-natural-slavery

I do know that Simone de Beauvoir contributed to 2nd-wave feminist ideas, but I’m not aware of anyone other than her. Feminism definitely has a strong presence in France, and I haven’t really looked into the history of the movement here, but I was always under the impression that in its modern form it originated mostly in the US and became a cultural yeast infection that spread abroad.

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Here’s my video response to The Red Pill subreddit’s hyterical reaction to the above post:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK2UMK9ohpo

Which has now angered MGTOWs.

Drama links:

http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/36vyiw/rooshv_slams_the_red_pill/

http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-47693.html

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The “Mig-tows” really don’t have much of a leg to stand on when they criticize you for renaming a movement, Roosh. They took MGTOW 1.0, completely threw out its founding document with hardly any examinition or thought, (ie. They confuse masculinity with traditionalism), then renamed the movement according to their own ideology, which did not co-incide with what they found… then they got angry at Paul Elam for contradicting both themselves AND MGTOW 1.0. and trying to co-opt the movement they CLEARLY co-opted themselves – and even openly admit to! (Sandman calls it MGTOW 2.0 for a reason, you know!).

Although you clearly disagree, what you are writing about with Neo-Masculinity is actually very much in-line with the original goals of MGTOW back in the mid-oughts. What it actually was about was re-instilling masculinity in men by following principles that were congruent with masculinity, and rejecting the push for androgyny and government interference in our lives.

In fact, when I look through your list of Neo-Masculine Principles, I see almost the exact concepts I’ve put forth in my online book The Masculine Principle. I am, btw, one of the earliest and was once one of the most vocal of MGTOW’s… but no longer identify with the movement since they threw out their founding principles on fabricated bullshit charges like “traditionalism.”

What really happened is the “Migtows” came out of Paul Elam’s left-wing supporting site, and since MGTOW (1.0) was CLEARLY a sexual libertarian ideology – alienating the left – and since it called for “masculinity” and “femininity” rather than androgyny, they labelled everything traditionalist sex roles, rejected it, and re-wrote the script on their own – without the council of their elders, as it were. See, now they get to accept queers and leftards, even though the ideology was originated to be something totally different.

I don’t really care that you reject the notion of MGTOW 1.0, Roosh. It’s really not what people think it is anyways (It is about using the male principle to men’s advantage rather than rejecting it and mimicking females – ie. NOT the marriage strike). It lasted for such a short time in its original intention, I suspect that by the time I shut down my site a few years ago, I was about the only guy left still promoting the original philosophy… which is why I recently re-wrote the whole fucking thing and took every single mention of MGTOW out of the thing, as well as making a statement of complete independence.

I won’t sign up for another “movement” ever again (lesson learned) – including Neo-Masculinity – although, I will support and endorse it, since it promotes the exact same things I have believed and tried to bring forth over the past decade or so.

You are indeed wise to “protect the principles” of your new ideology fiercely. This was MGTOW 1.0’s greatest mistake. The idea of building a “movement” based upon masculine principles, however, was not a mistake.

I hope you have better luck with it than I did!

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THERE WILL BE NO GAYS IN NEOMASCULINITY …………………………..NONE

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Sold

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I’m glad to hear of this logical progression to Neomasculinity… I’ve followed Roosh for a long time now (maybe 5 years) and while some things I’ve read over the years are tongue in cheeck, 99% is solid, how it is, down to earth truths and you can’t beat that.
The people will always follow the gritty truth, be it in music of any genre or philosophy.
No fancy backdrops, no cunning subliminal advertising and expensive cars on show to sway the minds of men is needed here, this isn’t movie, pop, bullshit… This is a mentality, philosophy a means of putting those doubts you always had into coherent thought and action and improving your LIFE.
Nobody doubts Roosh, there are no realistic threats. the only worry I have is that Roosh one day throws in the towel, and if he does it will be our fault for not supporting him enough and I don’t think that’s likely to happen.
Continue your work Roosh, all hard working strong thinking and reasonable MEN whose lives have improved because of the seeds planted many years ago by you (and fellow leaders) thank you.

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Thanks Roosh. Im getting pretty tired of the cynical have-sex-and-enjoy-the-decline advice that’s been floating around

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Good stuff Roosh. i look forward to future publications in the realm of Neomasculinity.

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Best of luck to you, Roosh.

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OK. I declare myself a neomasculinist.

I have a pretty young wife. I take my young children to church. Red-pill was the best thing that ever happened to me. It opened my eyes.

But you brother are the best of the bunch and I’ll follow you.

I like what you are organizing here.

I don’t care about game or getting laid.

I like the real change/political direction you are taking this. This is the good fight. Nothing else poses a greater risk to society.

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The bickering and cat fighting among factions of the manosphere is completely unnecessary, and dare I say, faggy as hell. You know who fights like that? Chics and homos. Within any burgeoning movement, solidarity can be an underrated asset, and there’s no need to burn any bridges within the community. Rollo is a fantastic writer, who manages to put a very intellectual spin on the core ideas developed within the Manosphere, and is more easily digested than much of the material found on RoK and Roosh’s blog. Rollo’s blog was my first exposure to the manosphere, but Roosh does much better work when it comes to examining society beyond the limited scope of relationships and the inner-workings of the average woman’s mind.

That being said, I see the different factions as complimentary to each other. Just because Roosh has decided to refocus his efforts upon a new path, doesn’t mean that other perspectives from the manosphere need to be ignored or downright rejected. If you want to start cult, sure go ahead down that path, but I’m pretty certain that is not the case.

Roosh, you have proven yourself to be an intelligent guy, I’m looking forward to see where your new philosophies lead, and hope that these ideas continue to seep in to more mainstream channels of discourse. Cheers

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Women actually fight and bicker more than men do… the difference being that in the end they all subscribe to what the herd decided, as a cummunity.

Men fight just as much… the difference being that when they’re done disagreeing, they either buy eachother a beer, or tell eachother to fuck off forever and go their own way.

Solidarity is a bullshit meme taken from the feminine principle.

Bulls do not herd!

I repeat:

THE BULLS WILL NOT HERD!

Yetch to all this new age “unity” talk.

What’s next? A round of Kumbaya around the campfire before we exchange tampons with eachother?

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http://theamerikaaner.blogspot.com/2015/05/who-do-you-agree-with-roosh-v-or-dr-oz.html

I did something on my blog about the interview with Roosh and Dr. Oz. Feel free to check it out!

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Awesome video! You can count on this Roosh follower to go wherever you go.

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I wish I could downvote that.

Follow Roosh because it’s right, for Christ’s sakes. Not because he’s Roosh.

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Open question that nobody has ever answered. Maybe neomasculinity will answer this. If AF/BB is the driving force behind female behavior then why don’t most women have free accounts on Ashley Maddison or other hookup sites? Any woman interested in NSA sex with an alpha can get it right up to menopause. The supply of easy to get Alpha semen is infinite. And yet despite the availability of top notch alphas for easy hookups most women aren’t interested.

Pictured below is 43 year old porn star Lisa Ann. She’s slept with countless, millionaire sports stars. Almost any woman could do the same and there are plenty of pictures to prove it. I’ll be generous, forget about STDs and rate Lisa Ann an SMV5.

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In case you think men are interested in Lisa Ann because she is a porn star guess again. It doesn’t make a difference what her job is. Any homely woman interested in NSA sex has instant access to the top men in society.

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Crickets…. I’ll answer my own question.

AF/BB does not correctly describe or predict female behavior.

1) All women including those that possess limited physical attractiveness retain sexual access to the top Alphas in society up until the start of menopause.
2) Regardless of a woman’s SMV she has the ability to cheat with men that are positioned many points higher than herself. The advent of the internet makes this easy and discreet.

Commonly observed behavior indicates women are not strongly interested in sexual access to Alphas.
1) Most women don’t cheat on their partners with Alphas.
2) Most single women don’t search out top Alphas for casual sex.

This disconnect between AF/BB theory and female behavior does not support the AF portion of AF/BB. Although it’s self evident that women (on average) treat men of high status with much greater regard and believe them to have higher sexual attractiveness their behavior and choices are not predicted by this hypothesis.

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AHHH! Kill it! Kill it qith fire~!!!

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“Open question that nobody has ever answered. If AF/BB is the
driving force behind female behavior then why don’t most women have free
accounts on Ashley Maddison or other hookup sites?”

Since that is an open question then please allow me to take the liberty to try to offer an answer : Perhaps because most women are simply lazy and expect their price charming to just fall from the high heavens to later show up
at their doors with a fist-size diamond ring then kneeling down whilst
declaring his undying love for her? Or mayhaps quite a number of women
don’t even speak English at all let alone figuring out what the heck Ashley
Maddison is but surely that won’t stop them at day-dreaming about landing
an alpha male like this woman here :

http://shanghaiist.com/2015/05/23/hubei_woman_becomes_celebrity_seeking_perfect_husband.php

Ugly
as fuck, hit 30 already, utterly shameless and absolutely delusional.
Utterly shameless, absolutely delusional and a total absence of laziness
are the likeliest 3 factors which preventing the majority of women from
OPENLY doing what she is doing but deep down inside they ALL crave for a man at
least 3 or 4 higher SMV than themselves.

To give an analogy,
I’m a MGTOW but I personally and I believe most of MGTOWs will rather die sooner than passing an offer from women like Tulisa Contostavlos for a NSA but that doesn’t translate that MGTOWs will ACTIVELY try to approach Tulisa in order to solicit a NSA from her for MGTOWs are not delusional in the least to entertain the possibility that a woman like Tulisa would want to fuck them without at least half a million Euros in return.

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From your link,

“My standards for my future spouse are: He must live in the city centre of Shanghai. He was born in 1980 , 1981 or 1982. He should not wear glasses. He must have a good character. He must be above 170cm. He must be the only child of a successful business man or government official.”

HAHA! The same everywhere in the world.

Back to your answer, I don’t think the explanation could be that women are lazy. When somebody wants something they tend to pursue it. Only a small percentage of women pursue Alphas for NSA hookups. They don’t want it, they don’t care.

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“Back to your answer, I don’t think the explanation could be that women are lazy. When somebody wants something they tend to pursue it.”

It is probably the timing, I trust that when the ugly in the article was any younger it was inconceivable for her to deign herself to stoop so low by doing what she is doing now. In other words, her standards for a man never change. However, her delusion level has dropped to 99 from the previously 100 which allowed her to do what she’s doing now.

“Only a small percentage of women pursue Alphas for NSA hookups. They don’t want it, they don’t care.””

That I can agree but at the same time I believe only a very tiny percentage of women do not want a man who is at least 3-4 SMV higher than themselves, case in point : the actress Julia Roberts, a true NAWALT amongst us.

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That’s a 100% true fact. Women are only attracted to superior men. Anything less and they feel they’re settling.

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“Women are only attracted to SUPERIOR men.”

And yet they said they only want EQUALITY ….. LOL

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Interesting, neomasculinity has little to do with being a novel idea and more to do with a repackaged idea of classical (traditional) “religion” bearing monotheistic properties. I am not saying it’s a bad thing, just that it already exists (or rather existed) in many divine texts. Your comment about fagosexuals is most refreshing because it is such a toxic ideology that has attempted to poison the sacred pool of humanity that it has to be put down in the most degrading terms possible.

Myself being a strong subscriber to the traditional religious ideology, is a staunch enemy of homosexuality and all its forms (butt sex and all)…

You standing up to its tyranny has really rejuvaneted individual (and broken) fellows like myself to at least put up a pitbull type of fight against this degenerate fuckery…

I am not sure how long this war will go on, but as long as bastions of ideology and hope are in their respective places, I will put up as strong a fight as possible (I have a lot remaining in my tank).

In order to clean this pool of degeneracy and moronic lunacy, it has to be a collective effort by all the good men and women who want to see their generations grow and prosper in the times to come.

I haven’t lost faith in red pill ideology though, I firmly believe that some of it can still be salvaged, provided that ALL of its good and wholesome aspects are transferred over to something much stronger and reliable (such as your ship)…or even mine…

Your name is translated as ‘Darius’ in English (or modern Roman, as opposed to Daaryoosh stemming from classical Persian language) so maybe you might live up to your name and do something incredible for the downtrodden. Good luck as my best wishes and prayers are with you.

Just make sure that you win.

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What is neofeminimity? Where can I learn more?

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It will be worked on after neomasculinity is more solidly established.

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Nice in theory however are you married yet? Also you talk about repelling a slut. So my guess is that you don’t want to marry a slut and other men shouldn’t do otherwise. Considering the fact only a small minority of women aren’t sluts (as you claimed 5 or less on your article. So a large percentage of men will try to a small minority of women. Also much older men wouldn’t want to marry someone in their early 20. A guy approaching 50 isn’t going to want to marry a woman in her early 20’s. Sorry but you haven’t thought this through.

You need to walk the talk before people take you seriously.

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Your email says two things: you are a female and were born in the 60’s.

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Roosh what about guys like myself who are neomasculine but don’t fit into any of these categories?

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Absorb what will help you with your current goals.

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Absorb what will help you with your current goals.

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Or, you can always go read the pre-approved super-alphas like yourself, who deem themselves “smegma males” like Vox Gay.

Stop ranking yourself as a top male to begin with. It is pathetic and reeks of desperation to validate oneself. Everybody hates people who do things like this – maybe that’s your problem.

Save money until you are rich.

Work-out until you are strong.

Mind your P’s & Q’s until you are powerful.

Then reap the benefits of living a good life!