NYC Observations

I went to New York City for a weekend recently, my first visit in several years. To put things into perspective, I stayed a month each in Cordoba and Rio, so the observations I’m about to share with you could be complete bullshit, but I don’t think they are.

– No flip flops. Not one stinking pair. The women put in effort, and they looked good. Very common were sexy high-heel boots. My lady friend wore an extremely uncomfortable pair for a couple dozen blocks including a walk through the incredibly Eurotrash Meatpacking district. She didn’t complain about her plight as a woman during the process, and neither did the men who approached her when I stepped away.

– Not as fat. Washington DC is the only place in the world where an average, plain-Jane woman with an okay body has her pick of the most desirable men. I’ve already beaten this point to death.

– A real coffee shop culture, and by real I mean cramped and snobby with passive aggressive notes about the environment strewn about, but no one in a stupid uniform asking “How are you doing?” when they really don’t give a shit. I could see it happening in one of their cafes that I meet someone in the same starving / bum boat as myself.

– Too big for its own good.
With thousands of possible nightlife choices, it may never happen that I find my most fruitful niche if I lived there. Even in comparatively tiny DC it took me a few years.

– Cheap and fast public transit. Taxicabs don’t charge more for extra passengers. Taking one with a group is cheaper than the already cheap subway that blew me away with express lines that skip stops. (The subway fare is $2 for two hours.) Compare that to what I pay for a 25-minute ride from a Maryland suburb to downtown DC at 3:01pm ($4). The DC Metro system is beautiful to look at but poorly planned, and run. I’ve been on subway lines in South America that are more efficient than ours. Even the Caracas subway which appears to be modeled after DC’s Metro runs better than the Metro.

– Cuter girls. I think if DC’s girls would lose their twenty extra pounds then they’d compete somewhat well, but they won’t, and even if they did their lack of individuality when it comes to appearance and less than shoulder-length hair would always keep them a step behind. For two nights I was more inspired than I have been in nine months.

There was nothing about my visit that told me I needed to move there instead of say the two South American cities I mentioned above, but I wouldn’t mind another visit in a few months. There are plenty of dirty hostels though most seem to be located in Harlem or other undesirable neighborhoods.

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NYC is a great town, but you don’t get much for your money in terms of space or quality. For those on a budget, it makes sense to live outside of Manhattan and commute in on the weekends for partying. In regards to the latter, it’s good to have a friend whose couch you can crash on for the weekend (or better yet, make sure you hook up and can crash at her place). One quick tip I learned when partying in NYC – carry a travel toothbrush (or those little tooth brush sleeves that fits over your index finger).

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Based on 15 years spent working in Manhattan I have to partly disagree about the inherent beauty of New York women. Given the city’s size and, perhaps more importantly, its pedestrian/transit orientation, you will encounter far more women in a particular amount of time than in almost any other American city. Because it’s the stunners you notice and recall, while disregarding the higher number of Plain Janes, it creates an impression that New York women are unusually attractive.

One place where the women seemed uncommonly beautiful was San Antonio. Most were probably tourists rather than locals, as we spent much of our recent trip in the tourist-heavy Riverwalk area. Based on overheard accents I’d surmise that they were mainly from the South and Midwest.

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I think your observations are generally accurate. However, the weekend isn’t the optimal time to come across the best the city has to offer. You will see alot more quality during the week. The weekends are not very good if you want to pull quality. The Bridge and Tunnel crowd (people that don’t live in Manhattan) come into town during the weekend and these guys hit on whatever has a pulse relentlessly. You get a mix of working class and douche guidos that typicaly use very heavy handed direct game. This results in elevating the bitch shield of most women so your game will have to be exceptionally tight to overcome this.

A lot of women will have no interest in you if you don’t live in Manhattan south of 125th St and if you say you’re from Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, or even Harlem you might as well be living in another country. Women will ask you or shit test you to figure out where you live. The golddiggers (and most women hitting 30 or over) typically ask you if you own your place and where its located. That being said, you could live in a closet in the East Village and still tap more ass than a guy with full floor loft in Queens. The pull of living in Manhattan can be so great that your chances improve even with girls that live outside of Manhattan.

I would say that if you want to find a place that will trash NYC in per capita quality then go to Miami.

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DC will lose in a comparison to NYC every time. But then again pretty much every American City loses when compared to NYC.

NYC is probably the only American city where people dress nice. SF is ok, LA is horrible Ed Hardy, designer jeans and crap.

DC girls, as a whole, are some of the worst in the world. There is nothing in DC that “draws” a pretty girl to the city. No Modeling, no acting, no porn. That being said, and maybe I have been lucky, but some of the best, most quality (Beauty, Breeding, Brains, and Bank account…the 4 B’s) have been girls in DC. NY is not to bad in that department either.

“With thousands of possible nightlife choices, it may never happen that I find my most fruitful niche if I lived there”

It just seems like that. Its actually very easy to figure out once you live there.

“Cheap and fast public transit.”

You have to get out of the suburbs. Simple as that.

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DF,

Great points.

“However, the weekend isn’t the optimal time to come across the best the city has to offer. You will see alot more quality during the week.”

So true. I will take a weekday night over a weekend night in NYC anytime.

I also agree that you must live in Manhattan. None of the “commute” to go party stuff.

“I would say that if you want to find a place that will trash NYC in per capita quality then go to Miami.”

Agreed. Girl for girl, Miami Beach destroys every other American city.

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The Hotest chicks i have ever seen are at an Ole Miss football game the last week in September and the FSU/Florida game in Tallahassee.

The game has to be in Tally though. FSU has more hot women then any place I have visited on earth.

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“Not as fat. Washington DC is the only place in the world where an average, plain-Jane woman with an okay body has her pick of the most desirable men. I’ve already beaten this point to death.”

I think you’re nuts. DC has the best female to male ratio in the country, and we also have tons of gay men making it even better. You must be hanging out in the wrong places. Seriously. My observation has been quite the opposite — men who have an OK personality but don’t even take care of themselves can get pretty good looking women, because there is a major shortage of non-drunk, non-fat, non-asshole, non-gay men here.

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Cabbage soup diet? Dude, cut the BS, if you’re only going to diet for a week, go with the tried and true laxatives and water diet. maybe it’s just a san diego thing…

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Roosh has stated that black women aren’t his thing, and DC is like 90% black isn’t it? So obviously there’s no way he could be satisfied with DC women. For that matter then, you wouldn’t like Detroit women, or Atlanta women or Baltimore women either. Roosh seems to most like the hot Latin women, so he should be in Miami or L.A. though both those cities are horrible for public transit.

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No flip-flops in bars: TRUE.

Not as fat: TRUE. But plenty of fat NYC people aside from Manhattan.

Coffee shop culture: TRUE. But the people lounging in Manhattan coffee shops during the day are trust fund kids.

Too big: TRUE. Bars are spread out all over. Hard to bar hop. Hard to find a scene that will last past 3 months.

Cheap/fast public transit: Cheap, TRUE. Fast, FALSE. And you do not know how bad a human can smell until you’ve ridden in the same subway car as a NYC homeless bum.

Cuter girls: FALSE. There are models, actresses, and richer girls here who skew the cute factor higher in Manhattan. But if you compare apples to apples (“normal girls” from the same economic bracket), NYC is the same as DC. NYC may even be less cuter if you include the millions of ghetto skanks.

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DF wrote truth:

“You get a mix of working class and douche guidos that typicaly use very heavy handed direct game. This results in elevating the bitch shield of most women so your game will have to be exceptionally tight to overcome this.

A lot of women will have no interest in you if you don’t live in Manhattan south of 125th St and if you say you’re from Brooklyn, Queens, the Bronx, or even Harlem you might as well be living in another country. Women will ask you or shit test you to figure out where you live. The golddiggers (and most women hitting 30 or over) typically ask you if you own your place and where its located. That being said, you could live in a closet in the East Village and still tap more ass than a guy with full floor loft in Queens. The pull of living in Manhattan can be so great that your chances improve even with girls that live outside of Manhattan.”

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p.p.s.

Take away the actresses/models, and Manhattan women are the same as DC women. But a lot richer, better dressed, slightly skinnier, and more status conscious than DC women.

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The meatpacking district is very Eurotrashy and filled with bridge and tunnel guidettes, golddiggers, Eastern European chicks, Western European tourists and lots of wannabe fashionistas, so you will not see many flip-flops there. I’m sure DC has a club or a strip that is also flip-flop free and full of in-shape women. But don’t make the mistake of thinking meatpacking district represents all of NY. Flip-flops are totally out of control in NY, and when you go to the more down to earth places outside of the Chelsea superclubs and the meatpacking Eurotrash zone, you will see it’s not that different than DC in terms of pear shaped chicks and flip-flops. Women even wear flip-flops to the office here. Even worse is a new low I spotted…a guy in a suit rocking flip-flops during the subway commute to change into his dress shoes at the office. Claimed his shoes were too uncomfortable to wear during the commute. A MAN.

NY may appear to have great women because of sheer quantity, especially if you go to meatpacking district where all of them will flock at once, but per capita it’s not really all that great. Because of the low amount of hot girls per capita in NY, when you have a 9 or 10 here the attitude is impenetrable because they know they have zero competition. When you’re in Sweden or Montreal for example, hot chicks were a dime a dozen and had way less attitude. In Sweden you feel like youre slumming if you talk to an 8.5.

I think per capita, LA is way better than NY. Even better than Miami Beach. LA is the “broke, hot chick” capital of the world, as my friend says.

100% true about not as fat as the rest of the country, but the further you get from Midtown Manhattan, the less that’s true. By the time you get to Brooklyn and parts of Queens, Harlem and the Bronx there are fatties aplenty. After traveling Europe and returning though, now NY women look overweight to me too now.

100% spot on about coffeeshop culture and transit here.

You’re right about girls being cuter here than in DC, but that’s faint praise indeed.

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Two very true statements in this comments section:

DF @ comment 3:

His whole comment is 100% spot on. Especially the bitch shield thing. Bitch shield is out of control here. But the positive to the NY bitch shield is that NY women have it set so high all the time that if a chick simply doesn’t blow you the fuck out of the water after 5 minutes of conversation, it’s almost guaranteed you can have sex with her.

Anon @ comment 10:

“Cuter girls: FALSE. There are models, actresses, and richer girls here who skew the cute factor higher in Manhattan. But if you compare apples to apples (”normal girls” from the same economic bracket), NYC is the same as DC. NYC may even be less cuter if you include the millions of ghetto skanks.”

I’m surprised no one sees flip-flops out and about here though. When I’m at the lower-key bars (not the trendier ones or the hipster spots) I see them all the time. Like West Village, spots around NYU, Murray Hill, etc.

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Southern California(from Santa Barbara down to the Mexican border) along with S. Florida is about as good as it gets for chics in the U.S. I live in L.A. and I’ve been to Miami. I’d say Miami is slightly better and the nightlife there blows L.A. out of the water, though SoCal is better for overall variety of interesting things to do and see.

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New York girls are easy, and they’re hotter than any other girls I’ve seen, but I haven’t spent any time in Miami so I may be missing out. If you can’t get laid here you are in big trouble.

San Antonio? FSU? Socal? Gimme a break, fake blondes with fake tits and spaghetti strap tops with jeans, flip flops during the day and heels at night. Maybe a cowboy hat on top in San Antonio. Forget that shit.

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That cabbage soup diet is legit. My mom lost like 20 pounds in three weeks on it. Doctors put obese heart patients on it to quickly get them light enough for surgery. If you’re on it too long you will get malnourished however. The key is that your body burns more calories digesting than the soup itself contains. You eat it constantly (even when you wake up hungry in the night) so that your metabolism is constantly firing…. The net result (assuming you dont binge on oreos after day three) is that you lose a shit load of weight very fast. So yes I’d recommend it for the majority of DC women.

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I can’t believe some of you homos care so much about what these bitches look like with their clothes *ON*.

You guys need to work on your Pimp-Ray Vision.

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Funny, no one talks about Chicago, Houston, Austin, etc… Hottest girls that can put both coasts to shame. But then, I’m talking about fly-over country…

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“” – Not as fat. Washington DC is the only place in the world where an average, plain-Jane woman with an okay body has her pick of the most desirable men. I’ve already beaten this point to death. “”

Ohhh yeah ? Try Melbourne , Australia.

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Yo Terps, do you see Houston or Austin anywhere on here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_city

no? then quit your bitchin. Chicago is legit though.

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That’s crazy talk, consider the distance you cover on the Metro and the time it takes to arrive. Plus you know when a damn train is coming. The NYC system is better in many other aspects, like pricing and how extensive it is, but the Metro wins on these. The subway can be a straight up pain in the ass sometimes.

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Plus you know when a damn train is coming. The NYC system is better in many other aspects, like pricing and how extensive it is, but the Metro wins on these.

If you go to the MTA’s website, there is a schedule for every single train line. For some reason many people, even New Yorkers, do not know this. But the schedules are pretty accurate. I use them all the time and I avoid long waits even in the dead of night.

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i’m a new yorker. i consider my time in DC as being spent in exile. that being said, it’s tricky to make these sorts of blanket comparisons. MPM hits it on the head; the job market has a lot to do with it. go to a college campus, and find the girls who care most about how they look. those girls are headed for careers in marketing, PR, fashion, finance, etc. DC attracts the studious ones sitting in the front rows who have been taught that their brain is their biggest asset. so, how you feel about women in these two cities says a lot about what you’re looking for in a woman.

here is where i do give it new york hands down. DC women think too much. sometimes getting girls in DC to stop talking about school/work/Obama for any significant amount of time is like pulling teeth. you’re much more likely to find a girl with a sense of adventure in new york.

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probably common knowledge by now, but they say Brooklyn is the new Manhattan and Bronx is the new Brooklyn.

so where does that leave lonely, neglected Staten Island? hahaha j/k

“Houston, Austin, etc… Hottest girls that can put both coasts to shame.” amen to that. i was just in Houston and Austin this weekend, and the women there were amazing.

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i was just in Houston and Austin this weekend, and the women there were amazing.

Agreed. I think NYCorey just hasn’t traveled all that much. Houston and Austin has NYC women beat in per capita hotness.

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SF is ok

San Francisco’s female population is fashionable, but still plain and boring looking when compared to their NYC counterparts.

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BTW, as a New York City Metro resident, NYC women are beautiful, but in a high class way. In other words, New York is filled with all the classically beautiful women who are socially acceptable for power marriages. If you like girls to be a bit skankier and prole looking, the local guido-filled suburbs may be for one’s liking. Otherwise, go find one of the daughters of the Real Housewives of Orange County, and get her to introduce you to her friends…

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“Houston, Austin, etc… Hottest girls that can put both coasts to shame.”

Yeah, but then you have to go to Texas.

Better to just meet those girls when they come to LA or NYC.

I really shouldn’t diss Texas too much, I never have really been there, except to drive cross country in my “transporting days”. I bee lined out of there.

“Real Housewives of Orange County”

Jeez. Orange County is a whole different can of worms. And when I refer to Orange County I mean Newport Beach and Laguna Beach. CDM.

I had an era of terror in that place. Not all its cracked up to be. If you are a Playboy and start swooping all the girls in either of those towns you will have a target on your back in two months time.

Too smalltime.

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I ment daughters of Orange County, not Housewives.

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Better to just meet those girls when they come to LA or NYC.

I’ve jokingly noted that Times Square has “hot” women while the corporate offices one block away by 6th Ave have “beautiful” women.

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“they say Brooklyn is the new Manhattan” – the only people saying that live in Brooklyn.

“Houston and Austin has NYC women beat in per capita hotness.” – perhaps our ideas of what is “hot” diverge, my man. I’ve traveled plenty. Although never to Austin, I have to admit. As far as I can tell it’s filled with slightly lower-rent Brooklyn girls. That entire Southwest region with the weak ass blondes is not “hot” to me. I strictly date dark-haired girls with style and class, that SoCal/Las Vegas pornstar look is not for me.

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yeah, you really haven’t been to Austin. there are beautiful girls of all kinds there – even ones with dark hair and style and class. who knew that even existed outside of the five boroughs???

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@Tampa 6, You’re dead on dude. The SEC contains the hottest girls i’ve ever seen, and I don’t even think it’s that close. I vividly remember a house party I went to in an apartment next to UF that had the 5 hottest girls I’ve ever seen there. Sweet mercy.

DC’s problem is it’s a Southern city with no Southern girls in it. They all just move here from NY and PA.

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Best looking city in the USA