Perception of American Women As Masculine Is Going Mainstream

Recently, Gawker published a long article about American men who are using social networking sites, particularly VKontakte, to meet Eastern European woman. While it had an obvious slant against men, they let through a lot of facts that are regularly discussed here…

“American men are being decimated. That’s one of the reason homosexuality is so popular,” an FSU-fancier named Ken told me. “[American] women have become so dangerous, so damaging that it’s just not worth it.”

“Russian women know what they are,” he added. “They’re not men with boobs. That’s what they are in America, they’re men with boobs.”

Of course Gawker couldn’t help but shame men for using the internet to find non-masculine life partners…

These men say they prefer Eastern European women because they’re more family-oriented and traditional than their American counterparts. But they often fall into the bitter misogyny you’d expect from men who concoct sweeping sociological explanations for their shitty love lives.

The Gawker writer also threw in the word “creepy” a couple of times, especially when discussing the time she spent researching the site…

I started by mass-friending, picking women who looked friendly enough to not blanch at a random request from an American, and attractive enough to have possibly been hit on by recently divorced guys slumped over their keyboards in middle America. It felt creepy.

Going after attractive women in a foreign country for a relationship is creepy, but American women who cruise for cock on OK Cupid or Craigslist is not? It’s hard to find an American man who isn’t tired of this hypocrisy. It no longer works in getting them to do the bidding of women like it did before.

The article shows how it’s easier for an American beta to land a feminine woman abroad than in his own country. Sure it involves a few flights and dozens of hours in front of the computer screen, but the odds of scoring a traditional foreign wife via the internet is now apparently much higher than trying to wife up an American woman who prefers short-term memberships in alpha male harems. We may have underestimated how bad things are for the average American guy if young guys still in their prime are willing to sift through hundreds or even thousands of profiles of girls who live halfway across the world just for a shot at basic companionship.

Last week, the Eastern European woman I’m currently dating came over to cook me dinner. She brought a tupperware container and said, “I pre-cooked the veal for two hours so that you don’t have to wait long for dinner.” This normal gesture for her—while at the same time an extraordinary one for me—confirmed that my wholesale rejection of ‘fat men with boobs’ back in America was correct and logical. The kicker is that you don’t need masterful game to land a feminine woman in Eastern Europe—being a standard issue beta male will actually get you a serious girlfriend just as fast, if not faster, than being a cocky alpha who is a pro at fucking American sluts. For either type of man, taking a dive into this part of the world yields immense benefits in the form of healthier and more fulfilling relationships, even on a casual level.

We may soon arrive at the point where if an American man wants to get married with a normal weighted woman before he turns 30, he will have no choice but to go abroad to South America, Eastern Europe, or Southeast Asia. Instead of putting up with land whales on OK Cupid who have laundry lists of qualities despite their trashy tattoos, Skrillex haircuts, nonexistent homemaking skills, and tough guy attitudes, a man can sift through online profiles of thin and feminine foreign women that have actually been trained by their mothers on how to serve their husbands. He can leverage his Western citizenship to find the future mother of his child without worrying if she will divorce him and take all his money simply because she’s “bored” and no longer has “butterflies” in her stomach.

I expect the Jezebel crowd to soon associate foreign social networking sites to “sex trafficking,” “pedophilia,” and “online harassment.” The reason is simple:

Anything you do that increases your ability to be sexually successful while decreasing your dependence on dating American women will result in them trying to isolate and disparage you. The quickest way to enrage an American girl or her beta male orbiter is to state that you don’t need American pussy.

It no longer takes a dedicated manosphere reader to know that something is deeply wrong with American women. You don’t need to do hundreds of approaches to know that they have stopped acting like women. Thankfully, the average beta male with absolutely zero game now has options if he wants a feminine woman, whereas ten years ago he was stuck. If enough men say no to American hippos that treat them like coworkers instead of potential life partners, if enough men hit the road in search of real women who aren’t entitled to expect the world to be handed to them on a silver platter without providing any value in return, American women will have no choice but to adapt to a world sexual market where their worth is not as high as they think it is.

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DirkJohanson
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“You don’t need to do hundreds of approaches to know that they have stopped acting like women.”

Would it be that they have stopped acting like women. In fact, they have stopped acting like human beings entirely. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303877604577382321364803912.html

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I agree this thinking has “started” going mainstream. When will this thinking BLOW UP? When will American women start being shamed for acting like men? I fear that is still many years away.

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Double standards are for morons.

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This is all true.

However American men have also stopped acting like men.

Look at the way they dress like girls(skinny jeans, glitter on shirt like girls. Hating suits)

Or notice the way they bitch like little girls if someone has lit up a cigarette or a cigar (ie Manly pursuits).

Hell they even use the Internet to meet girls (instead of getting off their ass and doing it in real life).

American girls and American guys are almost one and the same.

If you think about it, they are perfect for each other.

– MPM

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Now you’re being called a rapist to compliment a woman in the street, I’m sure it’s just normal to go online in this situation.

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Dying 20 years early from sucking on burning weeds and stinking up everything around you and leaving your family without provision/protection, AKA “manly pursuit”. Why didn’t you include not bathing, also “manly”.

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Agree but you can’t bring them back here. They’ll be corrupted by the culture at large. Nor can or even want to isolate her from it. That’s a recipe for misery.

The only feminine women I do see here in the US is the Russians/Lithuanians. There is a huge population of them in my area and many of them are beautiful. But many want the bucks and the bling. I will say I know a few of them personally that work at Chick-F-Let (older teens in high school) of all places and even though they were born here, are feminine and above all innocent and easy to get along with. They find commonality with me because I’m the son of first generation immigrants and also share the same Orthodox views so we get along. Believe it or not, they do not like the culture here because of the players. I’d even go so far as to say they’re still virgins IMO because shame and respect is still valued and their community is close knit. They still abide by reputations as it should be. Another thing is many do not date outside their own culture because daddy is there to make sure of it.

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Having spent the last 3 years in Russia I can back up everything you just said. By the way you don’t have to learn perfect Russian to live there. Many Russians can speak pretty good English.

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“However American men have also stopped acting like men.”

This is very true.

So for the time being, an exceptional American male’s options are:

1) Put up with the hordes of fat, manly, entitled princesses
2) Become far more selective, limiting your options greatly
3) Move to another country
4) Find a time machine

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I don’t care what the feminists think. Unless laws get put in place that prevent guys from hitting on women overseas, their opinions mean nothing and are impossible to change.

Dating and relationships seem to be the last places where a person can discriminate on whatever basis they choose. It will be interesting to see how long it will be until this changes.

A man cannot own himself and be owned by the government at the same time. Apparently, the government views us as property that is not allowed to leave:

http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/04/04/owe-the-irs-bill-would-suspend-passport-travel-rights-for-delinquent-taxpayers/

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@ LE. It’ll be interesting to see what values those couples pass on to their daughters. How long will it take for them to bring feminism over there?

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This is a good post Roosh. Although accused of being arrogant, I really believe I have my shit together in many ways. But, I cannot seem to find women to whom I am attracted and it can be disheartening at times. Tried straight pickup – moderately effective, but never with girls I actually like; Tried online – subpar girls with unrealistic expectations (i.e., she’s a 5, but won’t “settle” for any man less than an 8); Tried set-ups – always over-hyped, under-delivered. Not sure what else is left.

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Being masculine is an HONORABLE and GOOD thing. When women try to be men – not only are they NOT masculine, they are even less masculine than their submissive, sweet and feminine sisters. YES, since masculinity requires accountability for one’s actions and recognition of one’s own biological gender, those sweet, submissive feminine girls are actually much more “Masculine” than overgrown, selfish and entitled cunts and single mothers who try to be men.

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Lmfao! I will not be submissive and theres not a damn thing you can do about it. Now go cry some more you silly bitch! Hahahahaha

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“I expect the Jezebel crowd to soon associate foreign social networking sites to “sex trafficking,” “pedophilia,” and “online harassment.” The reason is simple:”

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Actually, you’re too late.

They’ve ALREADY started doing this. Look up the cunt media’s “sex trafficking” smear campaign against BACKPAGE.COM (a Craigslist-type classifieds website).

These cunts will not STOP until every option for men to get their sexual needs met is CRIMINALIZED and demonized.

They’ve managed to rebrand prostiutes & whores as “sex trafficking” VICTIMS or “child trafficking” VICTIMS or “human trafficking” VICTIMS. Guess what the men who pay for whores/hookers are now called? You guessed it, they’ve called SEX TRAFFICKERS.

What are men doing to fight this COORDINATED attack against their right to purchase prostitute services between 2 consenting adults? Absolutely nothing.

No wonder we lose more of our rights in AmeriKKKa and the West everyday. Soon, the prison term for buying whores will be 10x what it is now. This is how it begins, it begins with these SLUR campaigns.

What are YOU going to do about it?

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‘Men with boobs’,

This concept needs more analysis to explain women’s seemingly odd behavior of violently shaming men who are looking abroad.

What do ‘masculine gendered individuals’ always do (even according to feminists): DOMINATE THEIR PEERS.

Now, when we look at the ‘mass shaming culture’ applied to men looking abroad to date, it becomes clear WHY they do it.

Their motive is simple: MAINTAIN SEXUAL DOMINANCE THROUGH SEXUAL MONOPOLY.

What sexual dominance you say? They know that the average betas have no sexual leverage, which is useful to dominate men in two ways.

1) DISTRIBUTING MEN TO WOMEN ACCORDING TO FEMINIST IDEOLOGY.
By maintaining sexual monopoly , western men are forced to settle for someone like them, i.e. fat, ugly, bitchy. They can thus dole out western males according to the collective preferences of masculinized women by attempting to reprogram males to value normally unvaluable traits in females, in order to dish out the existing pool of men in an equitable way(in their view). i.e. the beta male is forced to settle for the fat career administrative assistant 32-37 year old. They basically want to control the supply of men, choosing who/when you fuck and marry.
According to the logic of current feminist culture, female youth is reserved for women gaining more and more power in society., i.e. to achieve DOMINANCE. 35+ is the time to procreate and marry. Controlling the female supply through feminist ideology, by promoting this norm far and wide, is the key to this blockade.

2) ACHIEVING ECONOMIC DOMINANCE FOR WOMEN.
They know that betas are hyper-sensitive to even the slightest suggestion of sex by 20 something female due to the sexual embargo imposed on men (because it is in men’s nature to want a young female). These men, like any deprived individual, become docile and hypersensitive to commands by said young women, by even the slightest suggestion of sex.
All the young western women has to do is SMILE and the western beta male will do her bidding, whatever it happens to be. IF this isn’t total dominance (getting someone to do your bidding for a mere smile), than I don’t know what is! This sexual leverage is then leveraged for thousands of small advantages from both betas (and alphas in positions of power by actual sex), that accrue into substantial economic benefits for the modern young woman. Thus, we see the current phenomena of YOUNG women are currently absolutely dominating men that are under 35 years of age in all spheres of life. Look at any law firm, accounting firm, corporation, elite university. You see the same pattern developing. More women then men. Gee, I wonder why? If you don’t think sexual leverage is powerful enough to botain said benefits, then compare the average male trying to get a PHD who has to pay his way 100%, versus the female who stays for free with her beta boyfriend and has a side job as a waitress getting big tips from betas making 4x what the male PHD student makes.

WHY IS THE FOREIGN FEMALE SUCH A THREAT?
A guy who is looking abroad for women destroys their LEVERAGE USED TO MAINTAIN SEXUAL DOMINANCE, giving them the 2 above listed advantage: (1) forcing men to settle for trash wives, (2) leveraging their sexuality for economic benefits.
It therefore becomes obvious why the western female tries through all men necessary to promote the idea that man looking abroad = sex tourist, which in turn =pedophile, sex slavery, etc. the motive is TO MAINTAIN SEXUAL DOMINANCE THROUGH SEXUAL MONOPOLY.

Without this monopoly, the whole feminist house of cards falters.

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For those few women who are hot and put time into their attractiveness here in America, they almost always have a bow-legged walk by the age of 22. This makes them very repulsive in my eyes. Your best bet for a decent short-term relationship in the States is to find a younger 18 or 19 yr old girl in a more rural area. At least you can be one of the first dudes to decimate her soon to be pusfilled, sore encrusted pussy.

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American women are shit. Plain and simple.

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Just spent a week in Vegas. The entire time I was there literally every attractive feminine woman I saw had a foreign accent when they spoke. Unsurprisingly all of the disgusting tattooed lard asses in sweatpants and flip flops bragging about getting drunk on a Tuesday afternoon or fucking random guys, and there were quite a few, were doing so with American amd british accents.

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Keeping everyone living paycheck-to-paycheck; so they can’t come over to FSU; is pretty much all that is needed to sentence you-all to the thunder-thighs of the Murkabeest and her prevalent Whale-ism philosophy. Unless you are _really_ YoungTallCool.

I don’t know what to tell you, maybe Mexican girls are within financial reach and not utterly insane.

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Amen brother Roosh, Amen.

After being back in San Francisco for a week, I didnt have to walk more than a meter to see girls meandering the streets in sweats and baseball caps. Indeed being feminine here seems to stop at just looking someone decent on a friday/saturday night versus a lifestyle.

Even the vibe in the air when you see women who are dressed up here is that of smugness. Glad I have gone overseas now and am loving the greener pastures.

Last week before leaving Guatemala, I had a nice girl offer me here place, dinner and all with a smile and appreciation. Havent seen that in the USofA since….well never.

Cheers to greener pastures.

-Turner

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Right because the women in Guatemala aren’t poor and dont want your money at all! Lool idiot!

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“I don’t care what the feminists think. Unless laws get put in place that prevent guys from hitting on women overseas, their opinions mean nothing and are impossible to change. ”

Until? They’ve already started. IIRC, we recently beat the last wave in VAWA, but it’s still pretty ugly

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“The Gawker writer also threw in the word “creepy” a couple of times, especially when discussing the time she spent researching the site…”

The writer is actually a man which makes this even worse.

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Globalization is a bitch.

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After spending enough time on sites like Gawker,it has occurred to me that “creepy” is SWPL-fem speak for:
1. omega
2. non-compliant beta

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De-beta-ize and the problem will auto-correct.
The whole feminine masculine polarity is out of whack.
That is what Dr. V is trying to correct.

The Prophet
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Betas must also be punished. The beta who wrote the article doesn’t deserve to call himself a man.

Anonymous
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^ i bet in 2 years the author, adrian chan, is in Russia looking for GF (or asia).

the seed has been planted by him going on VK.

The Prophet
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“^ i bet in 2 years the author, adrian chan, is in Russia looking for GF (or asia).

the seed has been planted by him going on VK.”

Nah. He is probably a queer. I have never heard a straight man use the word “creepy” before.

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Excellent post. You really hit the nail on the head. It’s pretty sad what has happened to America.

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A bunch of betas going abroad and probably throwing money at these girls is not a good thing for guys like me playing the girls abroad. They will ruin it for real players.

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“…the average beta male with absolutely zero game now has options if he wants a feminine woman, whereas ten years ago he was stuck”

Actually, 10 years ago his options were even better. I’ve been told Estonia was a real poosy paradise in the immediate years after the USSR break-up. The same people told now it is much, much worse. I’m sure the situation was similar in many Eastern European countries, and in Russia itself.

Nowadays, with more material success, and with hordes of British & Italian sex tourists, womens’ attitudes have hardened in many places.

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Things may get better in some segments of the US – the Mormon birthrate is very high. Many Mormon women are feminine, put family before career, marry young (in college), are thin, and not promiscuous due to peer pressure (not drinking alcohol helps too). The popular Mormon mommy blogs are even popular with feminists – just like 50 Shades of Gray taps into the id of even the manliest of American female.
http://www.salon.com/2011/01/15/feminist_obsessed_with_mormon_blogs/

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Roosh, you are wrong. Things will get much worse, not better. Simple statistics tell you that no more than a miniscule number of men will ever go overseas for a long time much less visit and correspond with a women – less than 1%. Furthermore, don’t doubt the ferocity of the MATRIX. Feminists and other statists will restrict travel (see Severin FACEBOOK, aand the new pending IRS/passport regs).

In short we are screwed. Women here will not change – their pride will not allow it. The only thing left is for society to slowly crumble – which is what certain elites actually want. Sorry.

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Yet again Roosh, nail on the fuckng head mate.

The double standards and hyprocisy of Western women is without limits. At home the only want to fuck Alpha males and every other man (90% of the population can just go fuck themselves). Abroad, they are the biggest sex tourists in the business. The Caribbean would go bankrupt if it wasn’t for “liberal”, middle class white whores paying through the nose for the black bamboo. But when they write their travel articles in the press or come back home, apparently their desire to travel there is all about “beaches” and “the music” – yeah right.

White women sex tourists are now to be found all over the globe. On a personal level, I find their activities in the Muslim world to be repulsive as their hyprocisy and sexual predation is actually exceeded by them local Muslim men who see non Muslim women sex tourists as degenerate cum buckets.

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Man, if they (the women) are the ones paying, the black bamboo’s owner is the actual “whore”. Logic, please.
They see all sex tourists as cum bucket/frail sticks. Of both sexes.

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all american women are disgusting hoes. something to always remember. thankfully i learned this before some stupid guys who got married or had kids with one of these revolting beasts

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Of course you are right. But there are always exceptions. Like the girl i got … after gaming for over 2 years. I like to joke around with my buddies that the toughest part of pickup is finding the right kind of woman. More screening, higher standards just have to be there in the US … at least if you want a woman that acts like a women.

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Hilarious. It seems that there isn’t a setting in which it isn’t creepy for men to approach women. In fact, it seems like it’s becoming creepy for men to be ATTRACTED to women, something as natural as breathing. Don’t worry ladies – you’re getting your wish. We’re becoming less and less attracted to you, and we’ll continue to scour the globe for hot females to fuck and/or marry. All you’ll get is fucked and chucked by that minority of alphas that you’ll be sharing.

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For me its porn and the occasional escort unless it’s a particular type I can’t find here.

No matter where you go you can’t form any kind of attachment without risking everything you worked for so I don’t see the point.

Somehow I think this is by design.

They sure did a number on the family unit, these communists.

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I was really impressed with Eastern European women until I started seeing some pictures of them in there 30s and beyond. They seem to get bigger horizontally and sort of appear to be stout, wide women. Being as that I live in America I don’t know whether or not this is some kind of universal thing among all EE women that is genetic or is sort of the EE equivalent of American obesity but based on what I’ve seen I think its the prior. If this is the case, then marrying an EE woman at 25 is like buying a hot intenret stock at its peak value before it goes bankrupt.

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That’s true.

I wonder at what point men will simply give up.

What will it take?

The EE men gave up on their women….doesn’t anyone get that?

Maybe there was a reason?

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“The EE Men gave up on their women”

There are more males than females living in EE, so, it’s not a rare thing that every guy, or at least every second guy has about 5 girlfriends or frequently betrays his wife. 12 million more women than men live in Russia.

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Expressions such as ‘hater’, ‘creep’ and ‘forever alone’ only exist in America. Surprise?

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In the 70s, when I was stationed in the Philippines, we had a first sergeant of Japanese heritage who was born in Hawaii. Many wives would come to him and complain that their husbands were hanging out in bars and consorting with bar-girls. He had a spiel. He said, when your husband comes home, do you smile at him? Do you tell him how glad you are to see him? Do you tell him is good looking? Do you kiss him and put your arms around him and bring him a cold San Miguel beer.

If you don’t, he said, that’s you problem. Your competition is doing that. Step up.

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@40 ken…you touched on the thing that American women can’t seem to get through their heads. They’ve made the home such an unpleasant place for men, that he’ll do anything to delay that inevitable trip home, and will look for any excuse not to be there. Chris Rock talked about this in one of his comedy specials, about how a man simply has to stop off to watch the game, get a drink, etc. to prepare himself for what he faces when he walks in the door.

I see it in the profiles of American chicks on various sites. Rampant bitchiness and negativity. Going on and on about what they hate, what they don’t want, and what they AREN’T going to do for you. Or there’s so stupid message directed at other women – those mythical “haters” that motivate them, or claiming how jealous other chicks are of them because they’re so great. I can’t count how many times I’ve read on a woman’s profile a message like “Are there any more good men out there?” or “Where are all the REAL men?” You know where they are bitch? On planes heading to points West, East and South finding hot honeys to fuck and spend time with. That’s where. While you’re being “strong,” refusing to perform even the smallest gesture to please your man, there’s some chick somewhere around the world willing to wait on him hand and foot, and then fuck him silly.

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Totally agree Timothy. An example I have is this stupid ass single mom with 2 kids from 2 different dads posting stupid “woman power” crap on facebook 24/7. She is always talking about wanting a “good man” or a “real man” and about how wonderful she is. STFU hoe. You are worthless. I keep her as a “friend” on there just to give me a periodical reminder of how NOT to screw up my life with trash like her.

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Totally true. Just wish the focus didn’t always seem to be primarily on American women. There are women in other countries just as bad – and not because America influenced them. Sometimes, it’s the other way around *cough* Denmark and Ontario *cough*.

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Zak, what is your problem? Sound like a hypocrite to me. So it’s okay for men like Roosh to go abroad to slay foreign poosy, but it’s not okay for white females to do the same?

“The Caribbean would go bankrupt if it wasn’t for “liberal”, middle class white whores paying through the nose for the black bamboo.”

BS about them being whores. By that definition, Roosh is also a whore. You’re jealous because women are wise enough to copy men and head abroad for hassle-free sex?

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Gentlemen, something you have to consider about why women often become so fat, frigid and masculine in Western cultures:

THE PILL!

Those damn hormones really wreck the sexuality and femininity of women. They turn into harsh men-like robots, tetchy and aggressive. The pill keeps them on a perpertual, unnatural, phase of frigidity.

Those EE women have not been taking hormones since the day they turned 16, so of course appear more like “women” than their American counterparts.

And women in Central America very rarely live on the pill (hence the rampant rate of childbirth).

Now…who do you want to blame for women taking the pill and turning off their feminine hormones?

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Ofcourse once he does land this EE, South American or SE asian women, he must not return with her to the states. the culture will Americanize her real fast. Then she will divorce him, take his money and now he will no longer have the resources to get another wife. Also the divorce will destroy his psyche so he will no longer even have the mojo to go pick up women. So if he does choose a woman abroad for marriage, he better stay abroad.

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@44 AnonyFem…you missed the point of Zak’s post. Gawker was attacking men for going abroad for women, and Zak was pointing out THEIR hypocricy, since women have long gone abroad for their own sexual hijinks. On top of that, what stops women from getting “hassle-free” sex right here in the US? Especially since its women that cause the majority of the hassle? Women go abroad for SHAME free sex, since vacation sex doesn’t count, right?

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“Now…who do you want to blame for women taking the pill and turning off their feminine hormones?”

Here we go…yet another woman not taking responsibility for their own actions. No one MAKES a woman start taking birth control pills. It’s an option. Just admit you take the pill because you like getting raw-dogged.

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‘fat men with boobs’

hey I take offense to that, it’s glandular and has nothing to do with all the soda and ice cream!

Amerikkkan womyn aren’t too masculine rooshie poops,it’s just that your not man enough and need to man up you wussy!

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And if you don’t like your EE bride, you can always murder her, right?

“the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act (IMBRA), passed in 2006 after a few high-profile murders of women who came to the U.S. on K-1 visas, the type issued for fiancees of American citizens.”

http://m.askmen.com/entertainment/better_look/10c_ukrainian-mail-order-brides-part-1.html

Haha.

It’s not about me. I learnt the truth about the pill when I was a teenager and avoid it like the plague.