Re: Dilemma For Guys With Tight Game

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The answer I was looking for was “nothing,” explained nicely by Flashman:

Nothing, other than getting across a vibe of total sexual satiation through facial expression and body language, which will not register with all girls, especially those you cold approach without them having checked you out.

Game is broadcasting the maximum amount of attractive traits in as short a time frame as possible, but if the audition is cut off after 4 seconds, there’s not much you can do. In hindsight, a boderline harsh neg or bold statement (”you look like the kind of girl who would stalk me after we slept together”) might convey the information, but who cares. Unless a celebrity or heavily social-proofed, these rejections are inevitable and not worth a second thought or even slight bitterness.

It’s true there are some tricks you can use to possibly turn around the type of rejection I presented, and humor would be the way to do that as suggested by VK and Tyler, but I don’t believe there is a recovery that can consistently improve such an outcome.

The problem with approaching without social proof or a reputation that precedes you is that you can’t show your entire worth in an opening line. It doesn’t matter how good that line is or how alpha your body language is, but those things can’t simply can’t overcome a girl who is not open to chatting with a random guy who has no immediate value besides maybe an okay appearance. She must be open.

Game rarely ever convinces a girl to have sex. All it does is increase the probability of banging a girl that is thinking she may want to get banged soon. This is why you have to approach in numbers. Raw game is about working your ass off on many girls you want and waiting until one comes through. Then after you’re done with her you repeat the process. Until you build a reputation, social proof, or a valuable quality whereby girls initiate contact first, you will always be working.

So while that girl is laughing at you, maintain your composure and approach another girl later, and just keep going until you find one who is open to chatting with a guy. Then run that game that has proved deadly so many times before.

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Good post.

“The problem with approaching without social proof or a reputation that precedes you is that you can’t show your entire worth in an opening line.”

The is one thing that is known to help:

The Custom Suit.

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Carl Sagan
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This is good advices.

Basil Ransom
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Read The Dirt, the biography on Motley Crue per your recommendation. Some takeaways:

One of my conclusions from reading The Dirt per your recommendation: With high enough status, you can get away with almost anything – Tommy Lee stalks Pam Anderson and still gets her.

And banging tons of chicks and being a rockstar doesn’t necessarily endow you with alpha qualities. Three out of four of the guys still get fucked over consistently in their relationships.

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A friend of mine says, “It’s all a numbers game”. I guess this shows that holds true for men as well as women.

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“And banging tons of chicks and being a rockstar doesn’t necessarily endow you with alpha qualities.”

Yeah.

Ever seen a rockstar musician throw a football?

Looks exactly like a little girl trying to throw a football.

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There’s nothing more depressing than seeing an old rocker who has come to some sort of realization that it’s not all about the booze and chicks.

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“There’s nothing more depressing than seeing an old rocker who has come to some sort of realization that it’s not all about the booze and chicks.”

Wait. It’s not all about booze and chicks? Oh yeah, there is dressing sharp, cigarettes, stacking chips, steak tartare and travel.

And there is something more depressing. Its seeing a young rockstar trying to throw a football.

They look like little girls trying to throw a football.

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Damn good post, man. Very insightful.

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�There�s nothing more depressing than seeing an old rocker who has come to some sort of realization that it�s not all about the booze and chicks.�

It’s right about then that it becomes all about the booze. Without the chicks.

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Gettin blown out fast like that gets me in a zone. It’s like a reminder that nothing really bad happens after a rejection, it’s cool, and you can move on. The problem is every time I go out, I need that reminder….

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Yea, everytime I start opening in day or night my first few sets suck. It sucks especially if I’m only doing sporadic day game sets with really hot targets… and lots of times with a hot regular you get lazy and don’t try and game girls slightly less attractive.

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“Game rarely ever convinces a girl to have sex. All it does is increase the probability of banging a girl that is thinking she may want to get banged soon.”

Very insightful. Nice.

Roosh how do you have so much material to be able to make consistent insightful posts? Nice job.

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I was just thinking about this and will put up a post in it soon. The way to deal with this, is if you deliver a harsh neg, be prepared to agree with whatever she says about you (“You’re an asshole”), and then say something along the lines of “Do you know why I said that?”, and follow up with a DHV story. What usually happens after a harsh neg, is that if you can recover, the girl will feel an INTENSE amount of attraction for you.

As for how I approach women in general when I don’t have any real social value or expensive clothing on, I try to make them laugh. If you can make them laugh right away, then you’re in. I have my own stable of material for that, that usually works most of the time. I do agree that you should just keep your composure and move on should things not go your way though. Game is all about persistence.

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