Guys Who Make A Lot Of Money But Still Don’t Get Laid

I spoke to an old friend the other day and we talked about a couple guys we went to college with. I remembered Steve, one of our classmates.

“Hey Steve took me off Facebook for some reason,” I said to my friend.

“Strange, he didn’t say anything to me about you.”

“Well since he’s a cardiologist now maybe he took down his profile because too many patients were trying to add him. I read about that problem in a newspaper article.”

“Hold on let me check.” Thirty seconds later: “Yeah he took me off too.”

“He probably deleted his profile.”

“You know he’s making serious cash now right?”

“How much?” I asked.

“Like half a million a year.”

In college Steve got more play than me, hooking up with the occasional girl from class (since I was getting zero play that wasn’t particularly difficult). He had a pretty cocky personality around other guys and even though he became much gentler around women, it was enough to get some attraction going.

After college he went to medical school and I went to work in the private sector. He got a girlfriend not long after that. While I’d peg his looks at about a 7, she was only a 4—a definite downgrade. My friend and I would talk about why he was going out with her. “Maybe she has a really great personality,” I’d say, followed by obnoxious snorting laughter. We didn’t understand why he was selling himself short, but agreed he’d probably step up after he was officially a doctor and making the big bucks.

Well, they’re about to get married. I highly doubt a prenup will be signed.

Talking about Steve made me do an evaluation of my life.

Cons: I have very few possessions. I don’t make a lot of money (a friend of mine joked that I probably qualify for public assistance). I don’t have health insurance. Every day I push concerns about the future into the back of my mind.

Pros: Freedom and mobility.

If I was a doctor making half a million a year, I’d sleep with fewer women than I am now. It’s possible I would land one really beautiful bride, but I currently desire variety, not monotony (while the act of banging doesn’t make me a happier person, the conquest does). I’d have more comfort and stability in life, but that’s what I want when I’m 51, not 31. If I worked 60 hours a week or more it’d be impossible to bang the girls that I have, along with doing just about everything that I have accomplished in my adult life so far (cue laughter from the haters).

Too many guys overestimate the benefits of a high paying job. What percentage of doctors do you think are pulling quality pussy? Surprisingly low, but if you want to land an ambitious yet plain Jewish or Indian girl with overbearing parents then it’s a great profession to get into. Do you really think doctors or lawyers have the ability and energy to creep on the side with the girls that you’re able to bang with game and free time? Truth is I know a ton doctors and not a single one is outpulling me, in either quality or quantity. I see pictures of their girlfriends on Facebook and I’m not impressed, especially considering their true cost per notch is more than $100,000. Mine are in the low four digits.

If you’re going to argue that a man’s job is important, I’ll agree with you if you’re talking about fashion photographer, club owner, bartender, surfing instructor, and so on—the jobs that put him in contact with a large number of sexy women. But lawyer? Doctor? Investment banker? Corporate executive? Raise your hand if you know guys with those jobs that get zero pussy, or have to pay out the ass for a pseudo-hooker.

Okay now put your hand down.

Game is the great equalizer, the savior of man. You can have a job where you’re stuck in front of a laptop all day and still pull more and hotter than a guy making half a million a year. If I was making that much money and pussy wasn’t raining from the sky, I’d feel disappointed and tricked to say the least. A twenty dollar game book and some practice would’ve gotten me much more.

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making money is pointless unless you have the free time to enjoy it

hoarding money is also pointless beyond a small savings account to cover emergencies, better to spend experiences and goods that the gov can’t devalue or outright steal from you

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Its pointless is you’re a lefty liberal who can access social services.

If your a con/lib, you starve without that or some charitable dom to wipe your bottom for you in exchange for your subservience..

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You’re judging everyone through your horndog lens. Most guys don’t go to work every day thinking about how it relates to getting laid. Most guys with high paying jobs like the intellectual stimulation and the sense of accomplishment, and the status doesn’t hurt. “How does this get me pussy” is not in the top five issues.

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I agree with Frank slightly on this one. There are plenty of days where I want to get laid and there are some where I’d love to waste money on some good alcohol and chill out. Money can still get you other possessions and he could buy top end hookers.

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Would they exist if women in the past didn’t bang men like them?

He doesn’t need to be aware thats what gets him laid.

Women are not banging homeless dudes for the most part, no matter how smart or talented. Just try it your self. Dress up like a bum, walk around with a cart, speak Shakespeare and Quantum Electro Dynamics and see how much vag doesn’t fall on your cock.

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some of these guys are insanely good at their job and derive much confidence from it, yet crumble went they try to talk to an attractive girl. all that time, money, energy, and they still can’t get what truly matters.

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They don’t need to try to talk to girls. Girls try to talk to them.

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Not really smart guys are not sought after by women to be honest. I’m a smart guy I’m actually really smart but I’m lazy and I procrastinate and I’m also the class clown yeah yeah. Anyways since all those qualities hide my nerdiness and intelligence I have observed how women actually look down on smart men, why maybe they are insecure or since because all they have is looks or maybe they are dumb and next to a smart man it shows a lot.

But since this is my experience I can’t speak for all. Even though I don’t exude nerdiness and geekiness I still have bad looks from women like how dare him be smarter than me.

It’s crazy but it is what it is. Smart men to dumb or average women are like hot women to ugly men or nerdy men.

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Its difficult to manipulate someone who is much more intelligent than your self. Also, its difficult to act as though you bring value to the “relationship”

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At the end of the day it’s a balance.

Do I like working tons of hours for lots of cash that I can’t do anything with because I don’t have the free time? No.

Do I like spending tons of hours at the bar or any location where the focus is meeting girls, when I could use that time for other hobbies? No.

When I was 20 I probably cared about banging lots of broads. I also cared about making a lot of money. Now in my 30’s both of these items seem pointless.

There are two things men overvalue in this world. Money and women. They can be for varying reasons. I believe this blog, as ironic as it is, tends to overvalue women. Spending most of your free time trying to get laid, whether it’s easy or not, is a form of giving women a lot of value.

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Your saying that if women didn’t make you work for that punnany, you still wouldn’t prefer to have multiple ladies?

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Keep fooling yourself.

Fun memories of past triumphs in bed aren’t going to keep you warm or put food in your stomach when you are 55 and live in a rooming house with the other dregs of society.

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Yea but when you’re 75 you’re going to look back and wish you shagged more bitches.

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R, you must know a bunch of antisocial losers.

My friends have money, travel, do sports, and people are drawn to them for the qualities they have, not because they try and use some gay pickup lines.

I know several high powered lawyers, bankers, senior consultants, traders, etc, and they all have more pussy than they know what to do with.

They are naturally confident, they can relate to people without being cocky.

The fact that you think you could even come close to competing with the real men in society shows just how deluded you are.

Get the hell out of your parents basement, and stop bragging about banging an occassional 5.

Also, you are being a cynical fraud if you think buying a PUA (the gayest term ever invented) is going to make someone a man.

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BURRNNNRD HIS ASS BOII

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Question for Roosh and his international readers:

Does this same principle hold in foreign countries, especially poorer ones? My unformed impression is that if you are rich in Colombia or Brazil, whether you are a doctor or lawyer or landowner, you will get laid in equal quality and quantity as a nightclub owner in America.

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still making a decent cashflow is important.

the trick is to make a lot and work the least! unless your work is your dream career…it will rarely be investment banker or cardiologist…more like nude photographer à la Richard Kern .

“I donâ��t have health insurance”

how can you get one?

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When your buddy Steve learns a bit about game,
he’ll be pulling nurses, candy-stripers, and other MD’s round the clock.

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You could go to med school, Roosh.

I know an American doctor who moved to Brazil when he was in his 60’s. Doctors (and nurses) have a lot of mobility. You can pretty much live / work anywhere.

You could join Doctors without Borders.

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Having money is fun, but getting zero pussy is a miserable life.

Money is really only fun when you have some pussy to enjoy it with.

It’s a lot of fun to take trips with a smoking hot chick and banging her out in some hotel room. Shit is utopia in my eyes.

Crazy out of the country sex in secluded hotel room is what dreams are made of

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I’d have to disagree with this one as my observations from being an intern in the Investment Banking industry back in college was that many of those guys do pull like rock stars. Yea, they were cookie cutter millionaires with the cut of your typical downtown financial businessman but many of them do get quality girls simply from being high profile.

Of course, there are certainly guys who have high paying jobs and don’t get laid, but I’d say the options for a Doctor, Lawyer or Investment Banker to be a “Game Guy” is much greater than someone who lives in his parent’s basement/attic (no offense).

I’d be willing to bet that overall there are more players in high end jobs, than in low-end jobs, but of course that’s just speculation.

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Agree with #4. Is the point of this post that money does not give you game? If so, that is obviously true and hardly needs mention here. Or is the point that people shouldn’t be doctors or lawyers because, while they will make a lot of moeny, they will not have much free time to enjoy it? That is highly debateable.

We should all imagine any given woman with a smooth space between her legs, like a Barbie. What is her worth then?

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This agrees with my experience. I have been unemployed for months, and I can easily get laid (opportunity cost of about 600 euro, assuming minimum hourly wage).

My lifetime true cost per notch is about 2500 to 3000 euro. Pretty good I think.

All that aside, I would now prefer to have a decent high status job. It would allow me to move to a hipper city, wear better cloths, and buy a car. In addition to my game, that would take me over Roissy’s alpha rubicon.

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The thing about having money is that if you have game first it really doesnt hurt. Like having big muscles, fly clothes or a big dick. Do you need all those things to pull and bang girls hell no… do they hurt? Fuck to the no

Some rich guys are like your friend others are banging three girls at the same time on the reg no problem, pic your poison

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Even if money is not important for getting women, it’s important for your own security and well-being. Financial struggle is depressing and confidence-sapping as well, which don’t help with pursuing women. You need to find some balance between money, time off, flexibility, and mobility.

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The man is a cardiologist, so he obviously has set his goals in life much higher than picking up pussy. It’s one thing to have a laugh at some pen-pushing drone in a cubicle who makes 35 grand a year and never gets laid, but Steve obviously deleted Roosh from his facebook because Roosh’s very presence on his friends list would be an embarassment.

The times that these holier than thou, wannabe bohemians are most annoying is when they bite the hand that feeds them. They can criticize McDonald’s, Wal Mart and MTV all they want, but talk to Roosh when he’s having heart problems someday in his older age and grovelling in Steve’s waiting room.

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The cardiologist may live happily ever after with his ugly wife in his cocoon of pussy ignorance.

Or he may have a midlife crisis one day, divorce his cow of a wife, buy a ferrari, rent Mystery for a wingman, and bang 22 year old nurses and hot chicks left and right.

He wins either way as long as he doesn’t get hitched to gold digger along the way.

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Frank # 2 I Can tell your notch count per year is pretty low. Also this a game site, so why wouldn’t
we think about how it relates to getting laid?

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Roosh V., Gynecologist?

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“Too many guys overestimate the benefits of a high paying job. What percentage of doctors do you think are pulling quality pussy? Surprisingly low, but if you want to land an ambitious yet plain Jewish or Indian girl with overbearing parents then it’s a great profession to get into.”

Just about sums up my past two relationships, but hey now that I want to take a year off before med school and try my luck at biodiesels I might qualify for latinas…

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Working as a doctor would offer a sense of immense fulfillment. I am a scientist and I enjoy what I do. I commend your player abilities. However, I cant dream of a life where I get up every morning and think “Ok how to get more pussy today”. People dont work to get pussy man.

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Roosh. Simple rule. You shouldn’t chase trains, cars, or women.

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“However, I cant dream of a life where I get up every morning and think “Ok how to get more pussy today”. People dont work to get pussy man.”

Oh yes they do!!!

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I would venture to guess that these men are driven by different ambitions or haven’t realized they’ve been sold a lie. Game requires hours. Lots of them, and they may see that the initial opportunity cost as too great if they are banking $500K a year and trying to divest themselves of outrageous medical school costs.

Dabble and you’ll get nowhere, only consistenly applying the principles of game and exposing yourself to all plausible (and some outrageous) scenarios that get in the way of pussy will anyone then start to see progress. Personally, I prefer my doctor/lawyer to be at home in bed with his 4 the night before I need him rather than him be on the prowl fighting the inevitable fatigue and hangovers that invariably come with the game lifestyle. Not everyone has the energy for the work hard play hard lifestyle. That’s why 10% of the guys do 90% of the banging.

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agreeing with #9. whole lot easier for a doctor to learn game, than it is for a random guy to become a doctor/lawyer/banker, etc

like you said, anyone can master game. it’s the great equalizer. it just takes time.

little bit harder to become a doctor. most people won’t cut it in med school

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Most of these idiots (high paying job types) are slaves to their work and have massive egos based on make-believe.

I have gotten more high-quality pussy at 200-300$/hr than many of them will get in their entire lives. The funny part is they could also buy it- if they wanted to, but are too proud to do so.

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Got the money and I agree with Roosh. Free time and game are the key to getting girls.

I finally got time and I’m working on getting game. Life is much better.

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Man Comment # 6 had me in tears….

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This assertion that people take difficult jobs to win pussy, and that they don’t understand the alternatives, is just absurd. You are completely stuck in your warped perspective as a very lazy guy with a bad case of pussy-on-the-brain.

Please grasp that most guys with good careers would be bored to fucking death living your lifestyle, pussy and all. Some language flashcards and diary entries don’t cut it for challenges. And the kind of people you just bump into at Starbucks or bars don’t cut it for company. Frequently lunching with a bunch of super smart and traveled engineering Phds is a stimulating experience that you will never have. Not that you’d necessarily appreciate it, but that’s the point here. Different strokes for different folks.

The other thing you’re ignoring is that a lot of guys genuinely like to buy stuff and go on expensive trips. You and I may enjoy a degree of asceticism, but a fair number of people genuinely love their big screens and SUVs and one week in Monte Carlo. Stuck in your warped perspective I’m sure you think they buy the stuff in a deluded attempt to win pussy. But that’s not really the deal. Some people just actually like money and stuff. Again, different strokes.

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In NYC its always hilarious to see bankers with no hair when they’re 30. brings a smile to my face

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The trick is making the most amount of money for the least amount of effort, like your friend in Medellin.

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Those that just focus on getting pu$$y mock those who work all the time and make money.

Those that make money tend to mock those that focus on just getting pu$$y.

Making money and slaving away working is boring. Going out all weekend and picking up girls, showing them constant attention, gets boring too.

Either way you are a slave to something. Seems like a lot of people, particularly from these comments, are on one side or the other.

I don’t see a lot of balance here. Probably why our society is such a mess…overcompensate with one thing, to distract from everything else.

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Something always has to give…. whether its having money, having a high status career or having time to game women. It’s almost impossible to maintain all three.

Don’t overgeneralize about top tier career guys though. You are right that many of them do at least partially pursue their jobs for the high status benefits (women)…. and they are gaming and having just as much fun as everyone else. The job is no substitute for game, but just like a nice body, its a powerful addition.

There will always be lame people in any field that requires a massive amount of education, but for some people, the work hard/play hard mentality is in full effect.

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Having much doesn’t hurt with women….. but it doesn’t compete with game in and of it’s self.

Status is more important than money. Girls don’t/won’t actually know how much money you have, but if you appear to have status…. that’s all that matters..

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I have friends with money…

One of my boys makes $250k+ a year and drives a snazzy new Beemer….

Another one of my boys managed a million dollar account, made some money, drives a brand new Corvette and wears nothing but Armani and shit like that…

I live below the poverty line and wear the same 8 or 9 shirts in rotation… and I bang higher quality and quantity than both of them combined…

And my game is far from polished, I’m nowhere near as good as most guys with game…

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@Roosh #30

Convenient that your quote clipped half the comment.

Try having fun in your 50s when you have nothing to offer women. No career, no property, just a bunch of faggy books. Good luck with that. Think game is going to get a girl to lick your 55 year old, wrinkled balls? Not a chance.

You’ve gone from one extreme (never getting tail) to another (rejecting society and trying to be a hedonist).

And don’t tell me that I never get laid or spend too much time working.

I’ve banged 70 women this year, haven’t worked in 8 months, and probably have more in my checking account than you’ve earned over the past two years.

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@Wonka

Game trumps all, but I’m sure you are enjoying some benefits by association from your friends with money when the opportunity arises. I would.

Money is probably the least important supplement to game, but it helps. Severe lack of money can cripple your ability to do things and limit your overall spontaneity. Also there’s nothing attractive about a guy who has to count everything or be cheap…

If a person can do it, nothing beats having an impressive pad in a sweet location. Pregaming, parties, bringing girls back, or just chilling on a Wednesday………girls notice and enjoy it. Hey, Nice things are Nice.

Overall it costs alot to get pussy with money and without game its downright foolish, but money is still a necessary part of the equation if you want to get 8’s and 9’s who arent complete idiot heewoors.

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Roosh #30…
i dont disagree with your reply here.
it can depend what you’re speciality is,
like if you run a cosmetic dermatology practice, you’d have a lot more time, or a more normal schedule, than say a cardiologist

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To spend 10 years becoming a doctor because you think that it will satisfy you is so low probability, especially given the time that it takes, that that reasoning reeks of ignorance or the inability to properly gauge risk and reward.

I would venture that most doctors, like most people in other professions, derive no significant satisfaction from their work. At least satisfaction in the sense of real enjoyment or that is otherwise not delusion to justify all the time and money spent to get to where they are. Imagine spending all that effort only to make 100-125k per year. And to be nothing more than a gatekeeper to specialists, pharmaceutical dispenser, and likely a mediocre diagnostician. Thats where most doctors are. As doctors move up the ranks in specialization, I would surmise that satisfaction increases. But most doctors are generalists. Insurance, demanding patients, lower respect than in the past, payroll and office expenses, and little free time are what these generalists put up with for their average low six figures. To top it all off, beyond very simple health problems, they aren’t the ones that heal the patients.

Most people who claim that there work is there life either are very lucky to have fallen into something fulfilling or are lying to boost their status and to justify the work that it took to get there. Most work, across all professions, is either repetitious, low paying, high liability, dirty, high danger, or some combination of the above that makes it less desireable than not working. ie: Most people dont look forward to work.

You only have one life. Once you have your necessities met, the rest is details. For someone to sacrifice their freedom for a beamer and a flat screen is simply compensation for not knowing how else to fill their lives. Having consistent access to incredibly beautiful women, and the time to spend with them, is one such way to find fulfillment.

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“Too many guys overestimate the benefits of a high paying job.”

So, true… I used to work a high-salary job in finance and hardly ever saw action because I was so exhausted, demoralized or pissed off after work to do much of anything – including pursuing girls. Really boring, pathetic life at that time.

Now I live a life similar to that which Roosh leads (with the consequent significant drop in income). However, aside from being much happier, the flow of vagina is like night and day. I get way, way more girls now and of much higher quality. The high-earning period of my life is a source of embarrassment to me now.

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what about commercial airline pilots. I can only imagine that these guys get a lot of beautiful women. Starting with the flight attendents.

I really do not know if having money helps or not.

I am having a really hard time right now. Everytime i approach i get shot down. I don´t mean being shot down lightly, i mean really harsh. The kind of rejection where the woman looks you up and down and then turns her back. Picture megabitch and you get the idea. It is really affecting my opinon or women.

Yeah….. I am down right now. Any words of encouragement to get back in the game.

thanks guys.

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alright. enough of the pity party….

Just got to get back in there. that is the only way. Take the hits and keep moving. No matter if you have money or not.

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@ Roosh 43

I haven’t worked in 8 months because I busted my ass after college, got a job at an investment bank, invested my bonus money wisely, and have now chosen to take a break. I’m living off interest.

I got where I am because of hard work and planning.

I’m not busting your balls here. You are short sighted. Trying to make up for lost time is going to cost you in the long run.

Chasing a buck and chasing a fuck go hand in hand. Don’t discount the value of hard work. If you do, you will wind up broke and lonely in middle age.

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Roosh, the other day you said many people called your friend Karl a loser, but you defended him because it was his choice of lifestyle.

Now you are criticising other people for their choice of lifestyle.

Not cool.

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^^^^ well said

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im a doctor……and actually in the middle of residency, which is SIGNIFICANTLY tougher, work-wise and hour-wise….

and i literally see a different girl almost every night. and sometimes i have to cancel dates just because i get sick of it

so the point is, its about your priorities. whether you’re a doctor or investment banker, or homeless, if you have game or want to bang multitudes of women, you can.

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Money tends to be of more concern to women when they are over 26 and want to find a “mate” for breeding, or gold diggers who want to be bought things. Under 26 being cool and fun is way more imporant qualities in a guy than a girl.

I very good PUA here in sydney australia was very AFC 5 years ago(28 at the time). He was earning around $1million a year give or take i would say, and a 7/10 looks as well..but couldnt get laid how he wanted to. He did a lifestyle course with the Mystery guys who taught him how to create a good lifestyle which will attract women.
The result was he got to know niteclub bouncers, hot waitresses, bar tenders all on a first name basis on the most exclusive clubs in town (through good tips and confident politeness). When he saw a group of hot girls he would ask the girls over or send them a bottle of Moet from him. Money was of no concern…add this with the girls working there knowing his name…many new girls thought he was a bigshot…and he was in some sense….he just had to build the confidence amd social circle.

The guy ended up bagging some hot models and now has awesome game…built around lifestyle mainly. He attracts girls in with a great lifestyle.

Obviously this is due to money and status…still its a good example of how money works to increase game.

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A friend of mine once asked me if I could choose, which would I want: money, looks or charm?

The right answer is “charm.” Money, once spent, is nothing. Looks fade over time. Charm can get you money and lasts your entire life.

Game is crucial because it helps you develop your natural charm, also known as your emotional intelligence. You learn to read people, put them into your frame of reference, and eventually, if you’re very good, get them to do what you want them to do. Ask any politician (or high-class hooker for that matter).