Sex Has Become An Obsession

Have men always been as obsessed with sex as they are today? Was it thrust into their faces practically every single moment? I doubt it. Men of the past had to put so much more energy into survival that sex was seen more as the dessert instead of the main dish like it is now. Otherwise, the sex-obsessed ancient man would surely die of starvation or predation. What you think of as a normal level of horniness and healthy sex attitude would be vulgar and downright ill to men of the past.

I go online and there is sex in places it shouldn’t be. My Twitter timeline is filled with attention-whoring women who showcase their cleavage and beauty, retweeted by thirsty men. The trending list on YouTube is filled with women using their sexuality to get views, and even children’s videos have sexual themes. Instagram, an app I barely use, insists on recommending busty women who showcase and jiggle their breasts. The only way you can turn off receiving endless sex messages from the internet is if you don’t go on the internet.

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Even when I succeed in not thinking about sex, I’m immediately corrupted as soon as I walk out my door. Women are too eager to show me the curvature of their bodies, their breasts, their ass, and with yoga pants, even the outline of their chubby labia. Women have become so deranged with showing us their sex that many are petitioning the government to go topless on public streets. It doesn’t matter how much willpower you have as a man, they will attempt to suck you in and put your mind into thinking about fucking them so they feel a sense of validation.

Sex is our generation’s daily obsession. If men don’t spent hours on porn sites or social networking trying to “like” or swipe their way into a woman’s pants, they hop on an airplane and travel thousands of miles away to bang until they’re sick of it. While most of the third world is looking for economic opportunity, the comfortable men of the first world look for sex opportunity, because it’s one of the top things that gives them meaning in life. It’s so easy to survive that so we can safely dedicate ourselves to rock star sex goals at the same time we experiment with a diet or supplement stack that maximizes our testosterone level to ensure superhuman fornication.

Frankly, I’m tired of it. I’ve dedicated more time than 99% of men into getting sex. It has given me a community of men online I can talk to, which is great, but my soul has nothing to show for it. I don’t want to care about sleeping with a girl I don’t have feelings for. I don’t want to go on another bang mission, or travel to more countries to find a perfect woman who exists only in my mind. Enough! I can’t bear to look at another vagina for the sole purpose of using it as a tool to get a ten-second orgasm that gives me no pleasure as soon as it’s done, even though I know deep down that the next girl I sleep with will certainly be someone I do not love.

If some facet of the culture has been normalized by the time you reach puberty, you will think it’s an integral part of humanity. This means that any man born since the sexual revolution of the 1970’s will grow up thinking about sex and pursuing it far more than his ancestors. The situation is worse for men born in the era of internet porn, who don’t know what it’s like not to have hardcore ass-to-mouth videos on demand.

Even if you decide to shake this sex obsession, those around you have not. Girls will insist on displaying vaginas close up to your face, asking if you would kindly take a sniff. Men will insist that you need to “just get laid,” as if that will solve all of your problems. There’s no way to stop it unless you remove yourself totally from society, an unreasonable task. It looks like we’re cursed to have sex a daily part of our existence, whether we like or not.

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cmp679
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Needed to be said.

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Good Post, deep

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I’ve realized how detrimental this has become to our culture over the last 4 years or so. Now when I see a woman in yoga pants, the first thing that crossed my mind is hussy or slut.

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To hell with this sluts & whores, these ungrateful creatures are literally destroying reputation & divinity of the great system “Yoga”.

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Whenever I am out cycling, I see that almost 8 out of 10 females, irrespective of age who are “exercising” in yoga pants simply don’t have a body worth showing off.
These dillusional bitches think that they have such amazing physique/legs that it simply needs to be “displayed” for our viewing pleasure.
The 2 good ones have narcissism written in bold on their face.
There is a time and place for EVERY clothing style…..but who is to drill this into their pea sized brain?
It just seems shameless….. marketing their wares to random strangers on the street.

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Stop being a whiny BITCH and learn an instrument already…..

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If you think things are different today than in the past, you aren’t paying attention. But then again, I’m not surprised by the short-sightedness: you all seem to think “culture” is to blame for all your problems when in fact evolution is the real culprit.

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What the fuck do you know about anything? Evolution? Evolution tales hundreds of thousands of years dipshit…..now crawl back to whatever shithole you emerged,

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I know that you don’t get to 7 billion people without people being obsessed with sex. That’s evolution, pal. Not “culture” or whatever else you want to blame your shortcomings on.

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Ha ha….I’m not your pal dipshit….

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Still avoiding the substance, like a girl. Not surprising because men act like women when they experience cognitive dissonance. You’re a good case study.

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Case study? You think you’re an academic? Even more laughable.

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That cat is full of shit, trying to sound bigger than he is. First thing he does is insult all of the commenters here

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Thanks for the heads up…..

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Evolution doesn’t necessarily take hundreds of thousands of years. If some virus spread that didn’t affect a certain race and it wipes the other races out in a month..boom …the next step of evolution.

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I guess all those people who defected from the Soviet Union were just stupid idiots who wanted to blame Soviet kultur for all their problems instead of themselves and evolution? Howabout this: An intelligent and spiritual person seeks to rise above the depravity and stupidity that besets every human society in all times and all places?

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J- You don’t understand that people are constantly battling to fulfill deprivations of various kinds their entire lives, that you’re always unsatisfied and looking to fix things. You probably live a decent life and yet look at you: on here complaining, unsatisfied, trying to fix society, trying to “rise above” lol. Story of evolution. Of course, to admit this would be too painful, as you need to convince yourself things will get better one day.

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You aren’t paying attention. Before the 20th century in Europe most women tried to be virgins until they were married, fucking outside of marriage was a grievous sin. Did fornication exist on the sidelines? Sure, but it was not part of polite society.
Just by quitting porn (we did not have this technology before the 20th century) I became a lot less interested in sex. The survival instinct is a lot stronger than the sex instinct.

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It’s amazing how many simpletons are on these sites. Amazing!

You have obviously no knowledge about history at all. Sex has always been a factor, but it has never been so prominent and advertised as now.

In general a lot of fake and overhyped desires are created by advertisement, because it turns you into consumers who only get validation in life from flimsy temporary things.

A happy self-confident person has less “needs” and is bad customer.

This youth-hysteria has similar roots. As soon as you start to be more independent you get devalued and criticized as “older” or “old” (while in real that’s the case when you retire), to attack your self-worth.

Insecure people are easier to rule.

When sex is free and fun and you connect, you don’t doubt yourself. You feel awesome.

Constant sex is like a drug addiction, you need more and more stimulation with less return.

It’s definitely not healthy nor evolution.

Btw, evolution is pretty complex. No being survives by overemphasizing one goal. What a stupid argument.

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1. Animals are primed to fuck… Evolutionary priorities: A. acquire food, B. acquire shelter, C. Mate. That’s how your limbic system is wired
2. Average Human in the west has shelter and food taken care of.
3. Now he or she can devote as much time as they want to Sex. Courting, Flirting, Thinking about Sex, Attracting attention.
4. Sex without love is basically an animal function, does not fulfill the higher tiers of Maslow’s hierarchy, hence you feel unfulfilled after you satisfy your sexual urges.
5. Human brain isn’t designed to seek out truth or greater spiritual truths, it is a machine designed to survive and reproduce itself, therefore you as well as the average human prioritize sex and sexual gratification over higher level pursuits such as Art, Science, Spirituality, etc.
6. These urges are constantly being called upon and used by Freudian advertising in the modern and now post-modern age to sell you products.
7. One simply has to make the choice to not prioritize sex, no one forces you to look at porn, advertising, a girls ass. Show a little self restraint and channel your high sex energy into the higher levels of Maslow’s hierarchy.
8. stop throwing temper tantrums about how you got screwed by society, every high culture descends into sexual decadence. Rome, Israel, Babylon, the Assyrians, the Persians, The Caliphate, The Mayans, all descended into periods of sexual immorality. Simply choose to not be apart of it. Rechannel your energy.
TLDR: Evolution primes you to fuck, modern science makes fucking like a porn star possible, its up too you to channel that energy into something greater then your animal nature.

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I spent my whole life climbing the social hierarchy ladder to get to fuck hot chicks, now I have plenty of hot chicks that I can bang easier than a rich man in Patong still I get less satisfaction than ever before. Modern women take no work to get in bed, and they are for free so I see some serious declining business for hookers in the west.

What was the frontier in society 20 years ago, whether it be traveling to Amazonas, living in eastern europe or having multiple girlfriends are now common average Joe shit. I believe some men thrive only on the frontier, now the frontier has caught up to were we thought we could settle. If its comfortable and the majority of people in the PUA society approves of the decision its not frontier, people have to think your slightly odd. Its outside societal norms. You need to be “weirdo” by societal norms in a way that is good and pleasing for you.

Can you have a harem, with all the women working for you, bringing home the paycheck and giving birth and raising your offspring. Thats the new game,. Can you do this while spearfishing, making youtube videos and enjoying life. Yeah that kinda frontier homeboys wont catch up to anytime soon.

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“I spent my whole life climbing the social hierarchy ladder to get to fuck hot chicks, now I have plenty of hot chicks that I can bang easier than a rich man in Patong still I get less satisfaction than ever before.”

If you are compelled to brag here, more likely than not you are covering up your own insecurities and lack of perpetual success in this area.

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Typical soyboy reasoning, gasp.

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You reek of projection.

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Yes he does. I’ve never heard a man who actually gets pussy ever brag about it. Just like pretty women, they never have to say it.

He’s full of shit and so is Rooshv and every other incel on these sites.

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Btw Roosh banned me for telling him he doesn’t get any sex. The truth stings like a bitch.

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“Can you have a harem, with all the women working for you, bringing home the paycheck and giving birth and raising your offspring. Thats the new game,. Can you do this while spearfishing, making youtube videos and enjoying life.”

Sounds like Africa…yeah a great model to emulate. I hear the place is thriving!

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Your sarcasm is true, its not a good model to emulate on a national scale. The christian model of one man one woman is great and everything that came with it made western success among other things.

On an individual level thou this is fucking epic if one can pull it off in current world.

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Fuck that Harem Shit Boys. Let’s Mine the asteroid belt and build a New Space Fairing Super Race. We’ll Spin a Toroidal Space Station at 1.3 G’s all of us can have 3 wives and our sons will be Ubermensch who travel the Stars.
THAT’S THE NEW FRONTEIR BOYS.

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Roosh, you are not special, deep, or self-aware. You are just a horny dude who likes sex, trolling, and writing crummy philosophy. Your previous post concluded “Banging girls … is the goal thrust upon me.” No, it is your obsession. You left your career, family, country, and relationships to chase pussy. That’s fine, but don’t blame society for your own selfish choices.

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The only people who are obsessed with sex are those who aren’t getting any. Which explains you to a T.

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“When there’s no market for corn and cotton, pussy will sell. A man will beg, borrow, lie, and steal, just to take care of his dick. Most men don’t master pussy; it masters them.” Fillmore Slim, Godfather of Pimping.
(Or words to that affect).

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no this isnt quite right. while sex helps hormones in a man and can make his life a bit nicer, it is not the dominating factor of his actual survival (not talking about his genetic material but his actual existence). An example of this is that the reproductive system is not given a high priority when a man is in a fight-or-flight situation. You can be a successful happy man without any sex. You can live and thrive without being obsessed with sex.

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Its possible you are at a point in your life where you need to procreate. Creating life and passing on the things you have learned may be what your mind and your soul are saying.

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Great advice: create another generation to go through the exact same crap

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No, the only true way we can get more red pill is to breed more red pill. The opposite is how we got into this crazy situation in the first place.

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There is no red pill beyond the understanding that everything is futile and all life is is the fulfilling of deprivations over and over until you die.

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MGTOW

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MGTOW

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You’re really all sunshine and lollipops aren’t you?

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I thought people came here for the truth. Nah, you all just want to feel better about yourselves

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It was a joke sweetheart. There is no joy to your life. You are purely mechanistic in thought.

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Procreate? Roosh can’t even get a woman to bone him. How tf is he going to have kids?

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I get that impression about Roosh too. I had my first kid just a few years ago when I was 45. It’s really fulfilled me in ways I didn’t think possible (I know “fulfilled” sounds cheesy but I can’t think of a better word). I still get the wanderlust and urge to game women once in a while but now that I’m living more for my children than myself I manage to overcome the temptation. It’s a good life.

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We all have creative energy. When we keep wasting it, after a while our soul starts calling for creating something more significant.

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taylor swift is so hawt!

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She isn’t.

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So you’re full and empty in the same time, huh? Yesterday I read some story about female war reporter who have sex with her guide and that was her best sex in life! Why? Does he have great look, money, game or she simply find him attracitve? No! It’s because they were in war zone and it was dangerous. grin Roosh (in some meaning) need to go to war, where sex isn’t obsession or goal, it just happens.

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Maybe that Peterson guy was right about your genes turning on you if you don’t procreate by a certain age.

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What? When did he say that? Sounds interesting.

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im wondering the same thing.

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What’s up with all the pussies on here who are so obsessed with aging.

Where is the playboy who keeps having a good life and enjoys women, not just hookups, but actually enjoy sharing time with them.

Living life, educating himself, being himself.

Respect yourself and others.

You are all so needy and whiny, it’s unbearable.

Guy are biologically made to procreate all their lifes, stop spreading FUD!

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You know Roosh, perhaps not now, but one day people will realize the truth in your work. You speak such truth & wisdom about our world. Its not just the west that’s changing, it is the whole world. We exist in a difficult time as men, and we just have to play the hand we’re dealt, even if it’s a losing war.

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Even if they don’t, I’m grateful that so many men today are appreciative of the work I put out.

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“you’re a very wise man, roosh”

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I’m definitely one of those guys. Reading your work finally helped me make sense of the dating market. Most of all, your article on things you “require in the future mother of my child” was a major influence on my deciding to get married and have kids. My wife was a little older than 25 when I met her (but still over 12 years younger than me) and her skin tone isn’t that close to mine, something I don’t care about, but other than that she matches up perfectly.

http://www.rooshv.com/7-things-i-require-in-the-future-mother-of-my-child

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What beko said. You must feel like Cassandra at times. I know the feeling. You extrapolate the trends and see how it will all burn down. But no one else can see.

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Sex in the context of dating doesn’t work. Arranged marriages work.

Even in white societies, in the past (like the 1900s) they had arranged marriages of a sort(women’s parents would arrange a marriage with a man’s parents etc..). It is only in the last 100 years since women’s ‘liberation’ that they have had ‘dating’. Dating multiple partners is bad for women’s ability to stay faithful to any one future partner. Also, women’s liberation and dating are dependent upon third world largely male ‘slaves’ who work for pennies/a few cents a day in order to make the necessities of life like food and clothing that the first world relies upon. Without such a globalised economy, feminism and ‘dating’ could not exist.

Feminism makes slaves of men, as well as destroying marriage and society; that’s the point from the globalist’s point of view – its not about real female empowerment.

One last point – feminism (as engineered by bankers) goes hand in hand with multiculturalism and race replacement. So feminism ends up naturally with a race dying out. If women want to work, they should aim for proper female empowerment, and not ‘feminism’. Only 10% of women at best would truly be capable of empowerment and holding jobs – the rest should be home-makers and look after babies; but western women have been brainwashed into competing for (limited) jobs against men. This lowers the number of male breadwinners able to support a family and further impacts upon birth rates. No-fault divorce doesn’t help.

TL;DR ‘women’s rights’ destroy marriage and society. Only a few women can have such rights – the vast majority MUST be homemakers and baby raisers to have a sustainable and stable society. Our society has reached peak feminism and will collapse catastrophically because globalists have orchestrated feminism, the economy and brainwashing (they all go together) to its utmost extent. Modern women won’t voluntarily relinquish their ‘rights’, and few of them will survive to see in the next era/society, because they don’t fit into a traditional mould in making good wives and mothers. An economic collapse would easily end the lives of the vast majority of western society(read: the white race) and because due to social engineers, brainwashing and women’s rights; this is now inevitable and will happen soon/is happening.

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“Sex in the context of dating doesn’t work. Arranged marriages work.”

So why don’t you tell us all how your arranged marriage and how it has been beneficial.

“Even in white societies, in the past (like the 1900s) they had arranged marriages of a sort(women’s parents would arrange a marriage with a man’s parents etc..).”

No, in the States it was immigrant families who would get together and give “friendly advice” that they ought to date and mate. But, in the end, their children would end up making their own choices.

“Dating multiple partners is bad for women’s ability to stay faithful to any one future partner.”

Actually, dating multiple partners is bad for both men and women and their likelihood of being faithful.

“Also, women’s liberation and dating are dependent upon third world largely male ‘slaves’ who work for pennies/a few cents a day in order to make the necessities of life like food and clothing that the first world relies upon. Without such a globalised economy, feminism and ‘dating’ could not exist.”

That’s really not how it works.

“One last point – feminism (as engineered by bankers) goes hand in hand with multiculturalism and race replacement.”

First, what specific evidence do you have that bankers have “engineered feminism”? Second. race replacement is observably not happening in the United States.

“TL;DR ‘women’s rights’ destroy marriage and society. Only a few women can have such rights – the vast majority MUST be homemakers and baby raisers to have a sustainable and stable society.”

In the end, men and women have the liberty to choose who is empowered and the type of relationship they have with one another. They certainly do not need to be virtue signaled to death by your “advice”.

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Thank you for your input. smile

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Seriously, please tell us how well your arranged marriage is working, as well as the number of offspring you have sired as a result. (White) family formation is key to the survival of Western Civilization.

Clearly, you are practicing what you are preaching, right?

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Hes prob hypothesizing about the past. Not necessarily claiming it would work in today’s sesspool.

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Right now our birth rate is 1.77 per woman and it is continuing to drop.

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Human nature doesn’t change, but the conditions it manifests under does.

Put differently, the underlying capacity for depravity of humanity may never change, but the extent to which it can be acted out, let alone in the public sphere, will definitely change from one era to the next.

This is where the “manosphere” will eventually actually have a genuine schism. In our current resource abundance, r-strategies are dominant, because any time spent withholding resources and growing individual competence is time not spent reproducing, right?

Except that males don’t form any lasting bonds with females in genuine r-selection, nor do males apply selection criteria on females, because the quality of females is terrible, with rampant promiscuity often being the only way to vent sexual frustration. The frequent mating then produces large quantities of offspring as an accidental byproduct, but yet without that byproduct, the strategy is reduced to hedonism, and that’s why some folks pimping adaptation to r-strategies are doing men a disservice.

Female beauty is a product of selective pressure, but in an environment where selective pressures are reduced or eliminated, so will the selective power of those dynamics be reduced or eliminated, so feminine beauty itself will largely disappear because those spending time trying to find it will be drowned by the offspring of those who reproduced indiscriminately.

To support this, neither men or women can be selective about their sexual partners, and that requires reconditioning male behavior, and thus you get back to Roosh’s post. Women are already subject to their emotional states, but by default men aren’t due to differences in brain structure. As such, men must somehow be enslaved to something in the same way that women are, some external mechanism to get leverage over them, and so sexual desire becomes a control mechanism for male behavior.

If you’re familiar with Genesis 3, you’ll know how effective a choice this is, given that Adam knowingly disobeyed God’s command after his wife was deceived because he wanted to keep banging her. It’s not like there was anyone else around, so what do you think two naked people did while living in a garden where all their immediate needs were being met?

“Be fruitful and multiply.”

Now, you’ll notice that I haven’t talked about porn, abortion, birth control, or sexbots yet. That’s because those are the reason why the r-strategy is ultimately self-defeating on its current path, and why it will be reduced to mere hedonism.

Without actual offspring, the external culling mechanisms on r-selected populations will eventually overtake it and that species will die out.

Oh, it’ll be a glorious orgy with magnificent feasts that the last generation will experience, but without a future generation to carry the torch, other species whose strategies actually produce offspring will overtake them.

This is why, despite Western Civilization being inundated with resources, my children’s generation is going to be downright brutal across the board because they are going to grow up in a resource shortage from older generations having tried to burn out the hedonistic treadmill before they finally died. They’ll see the results of the “social experiment” and know exactly what needs to be done to avoid repeating such depravity.

This is also because of the dynamic where the only people having kids today want them, and that implies a K-strategy. r-strategists have kids by accident, K-strategists do so intentionally, and then invest directly in raising their young.

Compare the mating strategies of whales to the krill they consume, if comparing wolves and rabbits feels like it’s been overdone.

Thus why public schooling has been such a controversial topic, because they’re literal reconditioning factories that allow the childless r-strategists to asexually reproduce by reprogramming the children of K-strategists to think and act like them. This is why, even at the youngest ages, children are being indoctrinated into sexual depravity, to try and accomplish what they would have otherwise happened naturally by the r-strategist’s apathy in raising their own children.

I could keep going but you can see how everything’s connected because it all traces back to answering the question of “how will your species continue?” Roosh sees things through a sexual filter, and he’s not wrong to do so, because sexual dynamics are just a subset of reproductive strategy. Once you connect the dots to the deeper trends of sexual behavior, why it is what it is, all these various loose ends start coming together to form a rather simple and cohesive paradigm.

Roosh is heading down that path, and is already closer to truth than many other in the “manosphere” that are still trying to adapt to r-selection as if no human trends were ever broken.

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K-R selection theory is pseudoscience.

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r/k selection is an observable fact in biology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R/K_selection_theory

Applying this biological reality to human political groups is an induction that seems to have some useful predictive power.

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No, it is pseudoscience. Anonymous Conservative peddles this claptrap. A classic takedown from a while ago…

It is obvious why the author is ‘Anonymous’, this is a pure and simple restatement of Social Darwinism. Psychology is a science; this is anti science propaganda written solely to support the author’s political agenda. The author’s lack of understanding of the basic principles of behavioral and brain sciences, and inability to think outside the box of his/her obvious biases, is apparent within the first few pages. Although the author lists many references, the titles appear to have been selected purely to provide an air of legitimacy, not based on an understanding (at any level) of their content. I am sure this must be a favorite of Fox “News” fans as it is at much the same level. As someone who has taught Evolutionary Psychology, and considers this an area of expertise, I shudder at the impression this creates. I am unsure what to do with this ‘book’ now that I have it since it is too insubstantial to function effectively as a paperweight.

A footnote: The simplest way to debunk the notion that Anonymous is presenting a scientifically valid evolutionary theory, without using too much science, is to examine chimpanzees, our closest living relative. Both species of chimpanzee (the common chimp and the Bonobo) carry about 99% of the same genes we do, and both (based on number of offspring and investment in them) must be classified as K selected. Common chimps are often violent and maintain a strict dominance hierarchy, even to the extent of warring with (and even killing) their neighbors; whereas the Bonobo is peace loving and promiscuous, generally settling disagreements by having sex. The authors total lack of understanding of basic differences between r and K selected species is apparent in his designation of K selected species as predators and r selected species as prey. The concepts of r and K selection are based on differences in parental investment and are applied at a species or population level; r selected species tend to be short lived and produce large batches of offspring all at once, K selected species tend to be longer lived and produce smaller numbers of offspring over a longer period of time. The author wants instead to apply r and K designations to different individuals within the same populations of the same species, and often appears to conflate numbers of offspring produced by members of a species with the total number of members of a species observed (more = prey), although this appears to be a deliberate distortion it is possible that Anonymous is simply ignorant of the established use of r and K selection. So many species violate Anonymous’ approach to classification,however, that it is difficult to understand how the author could have come to this conclusion.. Applying this principle would mean that elephants, giraffes, gorillas, many antelopes and other herbivores … etc etc etc which are K selected should be classified as predators. The author’s total lack of understanding of evolution is apparent in their use of the term de-evolution … there is no such thing, Evolution occurs when some genes become more prevalent because animals with those genes survive and reproduce better than others … it is a response to the environment organisms are exposed to, Whales lost their legs and gained flippers because it was advantageous for them to do so … if the oceans began to dry up legs could be selected for again! This is NOT de-evolution … simply an evolutionary response to a changing environment. The term de-evolution assumes there is a hierarchy of evolution with some species being ‘more evolved’ than others, and assumes that more complex is some how better. This is absurd. Sharks are more ‘primitive’ in their design than whales because their design was successful, once it evolved it did not require change. Are there any terms in the title I missed? … this is not a book about science. Science uses rules for collecting and presenting data to ensure that the information presented is valid. When you redefine the terms being used (e.g. r and K selection, evolution, etc) to fit your agenda you can no longer claim to be presenting science. ONE final comment. The author appears to be fond of attacking negative reviews by stating the reviewers are not using science …. but does not ONCE support ANY specific statement in their own book by directing the reader to a specific scientific reference that could be used to check the accuracy of the absurd conjectures presented. The author instead uses smoke and mirrors by listing a number of apparently relevant references to mask their ignorance (or deliberate misrepresentation) of the content of these references.

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No, K-R selection theory is pseudoscience. Anonymous Conservative peddles this claptrap. An epic takedown some time ago…

It is obvious why the author is ‘Anonymous’, this is a pure and simple restatement of Social Darwinism. Psychology is a science; this is anti science propaganda written solely to support the author’s political agenda. The author’s lack of understanding of the basic principles of behavioral and brain sciences, and inability to think outside the box of his/her obvious biases, is apparent within the first few pages. Although the author lists many references, the titles appear to have been selected purely to provide an air of legitimacy, not based on an understanding (at any level) of their content. I am sure this must be a favorite of Fox “News” fans as it is at much the same level. As someone who has taught Evolutionary Psychology, and considers this an area of expertise, I shudder at the impression this creates. I am unsure what to do with this ‘book’ now that I have it since it is too insubstantial to function effectively as a paperweight.

A footnote: The simplest way to debunk the notion that Anonymous is presenting a scientifically valid evolutionary theory, without using too much science, is to examine chimpanzees, our closest living relative. Both species of chimpanzee (the common chimp and the Bonobo) carry about 99% of the same genes we do, and both (based on number of offspring and investment in them) must be classified as K selected. Common chimps are often violent and maintain a strict dominance hierarchy, even to the extent of warring with (and even killing) their neighbors; whereas the Bonobo is peace loving and promiscuous, generally settling disagreements by having sex. The authors total lack of understanding of basic differences between r and K selected species is apparent in his designation of K selected species as predators and r selected species as prey. The concepts of r and K selection are based on differences in parental investment and are applied at a species or population level; r selected species tend to be short lived and produce large batches of offspring all at once, K selected species tend to be longer lived and produce smaller numbers of offspring over a longer period of time. The author wants instead to apply r and K designations to different individuals within the same populations of the same species, and often appears to conflate numbers of offspring produced by members of a species with the total number of members of a species observed (more = prey), although this appears to be a deliberate distortion it is possible that Anonymous is simply ignorant of the established use of r and K selection. So many species violate Anonymous’ approach to classification,however, that it is difficult to understand how the author could have come to this conclusion.. Applying this principle would mean that elephants, giraffes, gorillas, many antelopes and other herbivores … etc etc etc which are K selected should be classified as predators. The author’s total lack of understanding of evolution is apparent in their use of the term de-evolution … there is no such thing, Evolution occurs when some genes become more prevalent because animals with those genes survive and reproduce better than others … it is a response to the environment organisms are exposed to, Whales lost their legs and gained flippers because it was advantageous for them to do so … if the oceans began to dry up legs could be selected for again! This is NOT de-evolution … simply an evolutionary response to a changing environment. The term de-evolution assumes there is a hierarchy of evolution with some species being ‘more evolved’ than others, and assumes that more complex is some how better. This is absurd. Sharks are more ‘primitive’ in their design than whales because their design was successful, once it evolved it did not require change. Are there any terms in the title I missed? … this is not a book about science. Science uses rules for collecting and presenting data to ensure that the information presented is valid. When you redefine the terms being used (e.g. r and K selection, evolution, etc) to fit your agenda you can no longer claim to be presenting science. ONE final comment. The author appears to be fond of attacking negative reviews by stating the reviewers are not using science …. but does not ONCE support ANY specific statement in their own book by directing the reader to a specific scientific reference that could be used to check the accuracy of the absurd conjectures presented. The author instead uses smoke and mirrors by listing a number of apparently relevant references to mask their ignorance (or deliberate misrepresentation) of the content of these references.

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It´s more of an outdated concept than a fact. Wiki says ¨The theory was popular in the 1970s and 1980s, when it was used as a heuristic device, but lost importance in the early 1990s, when it was criticized by several empirical studies.¨ That said, there may be a grain of truth to it.

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Nice catch.
The wiki page claims that themes from r/k selection have been incorporated into the broader “Life History Theory”, which also has its own Wiki page and has a section on r/k selection theory.
I suppose as a formal theory it has some holes in it, but I think even a serious biologist would understand that it is a useful heuristic for describing reproductive patterns.

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Just found this video by Jean-Francois Gariepy defending r/k selection theory. Not saying appealing to his authority de facto proves it right or wrong but I think it counts for something that a published biologist with a PhD thinks it is a useful concept.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX7Tj9Gyc4o

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Just for your information, Wiki (by a MAN) is now being infested by femicuntism !! Most of the content is altered to change facts and realities. Deliberately and desperately, images of pussies are shown, instead of MEN who put up the hard work and/or Invented the product/technology/concept etc.

I have downloaded previous/original (read: not altered, adulterated or infested !!) Wiki Dvd Images and will only use them.

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No, it is pseudoscience. Epic takedown of Anonymous Conservative, who peddles this claptrap…

“It is obvious why the author is ‘Anonymous’, this is a pure and simple restatement of Social Darwinism. Psychology is a science; this is anti science propaganda written solely to support the author’s political agenda. The author’s lack of understanding of the basic principles of behavioral and brain sciences, and inability to think outside the box of his/her obvious biases, is apparent within the first few pages. Although the author lists many references, the titles appear to have been selected purely to provide an air of legitimacy, not based on an understanding (at any level) of their content. I am sure this must be a favorite of Fox “News” fans as it is at much the same level. As someone who has taught Evolutionary Psychology, and considers this an area of expertise, I shudder at the impression this creates. I am unsure what to do with this ‘book’ now that I have it since it is too insubstantial to function effectively as a paperweight.

A footnote: The simplest way to debunk the notion that Anonymous is presenting a scientifically valid evolutionary theory, without using too much science, is to examine chimpanzees, our closest living relative. Both species of chimpanzee (the common chimp and the Bonobo) carry about 99% of the same genes we do, and both (based on number of offspring and investment in them) must be classified as K selected. Common chimps are often violent and maintain a strict dominance hierarchy, even to the extent of warring with (and even killing) their neighbors; whereas the Bonobo is peace loving and promiscuous, generally settling disagreements by having sex. The authors total lack of understanding of basic differences between r and K selected species is apparent in his designation of K selected species as predators and r selected species as prey. The concepts of r and K selection are based on differences in parental investment and are applied at a species or population level; r selected species tend to be short lived and produce large batches of offspring all at once, K selected species tend to be longer lived and produce smaller numbers of offspring over a longer period of time. The author wants instead to apply r and K designations to different individuals within the same populations of the same species, and often appears to conflate numbers of offspring produced by members of a species with the total number of members of a species observed (more = prey), although this appears to be a deliberate distortion it is possible that Anonymous is simply ignorant of the established use of r and K selection. So many species violate Anonymous’ approach to classification,however, that it is difficult to understand how the author could have come to this conclusion.. Applying this principle would mean that elephants, giraffes, gorillas, many antelopes and other herbivores … etc etc etc which are K selected should be classified as predators. The author’s total lack of understanding of evolution is apparent in their use of the term de-evolution … there is no such thing, Evolution occurs when some genes become more prevalent because animals with those genes survive and reproduce better than others … it is a response to the environment organisms are exposed to, Whales lost their legs and gained flippers because it was advantageous for them to do so … if the oceans began to dry up legs could be selected for again! This is NOT de-evolution … simply an evolutionary response to a changing environment. The term de-evolution assumes there is a hierarchy of evolution with some species being ‘more evolved’ than others, and assumes that more complex is some how better. This is absurd. Sharks are more ‘primitive’ in their design than whales because their design was successful, once it evolved it did not require change. Are there any terms in the title I missed? … this is not a book about science. Science uses rules for collecting and presenting data to ensure that the information presented is valid. When you redefine the terms being used (e.g. r and K selection, evolution, etc) to fit your agenda you can no longer claim to be presenting science. ONE final comment. The author appears to be fond of attacking negative reviews by stating the reviewers are not using science …. but does not ONCE support ANY specific statement in their own book by directing the reader to a specific scientific reference that could be used to check the accuracy of the absurd conjectures presented. The author instead uses smoke and mirrors by listing a number of apparently relevant references to mask their ignorance (or deliberate misrepresentation) of the content of these references.”

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No, K-R selection theory is pseudoscience. Epic takedown at Anonymous Conservative, who peddles this nonsense.

It is obvious why the author is ‘Anonymous’, this is a pure and simple restatement of Social Darwinism. Psychology is a science; this is anti science propaganda written solely to support the author’s political agenda. The author’s lack of understanding of the basic principles of behavioral and brain sciences, and inability to think outside the box of his/her obvious biases, is apparent within the first few pages. Although the author lists many references, the titles appear to have been selected purely to provide an air of legitimacy, not based on an understanding (at any level) of their content. I am sure this must be a favorite of Fox “News” fans as it is at much the same level. As someone who has taught Evolutionary Psychology, and considers this an area of expertise, I shudder at the impression this creates. I am unsure what to do with this ‘book’ now that I have it since it is too insubstantial to function effectively as a paperweight.

A footnote: The simplest way to debunk the notion that Anonymous is presenting a scientifically valid evolutionary theory, without using too much science, is to examine chimpanzees, our closest living relative. Both species of chimpanzee (the common chimp and the Bonobo) carry about 99% of the same genes we do, and both (based on number of offspring and investment in them) must be classified as K selected. Common chimps are often violent and maintain a strict dominance hierarchy, even to the extent of warring with (and even killing) their neighbors; whereas the Bonobo is peace loving and promiscuous, generally settling disagreements by having sex. The authors total lack of understanding of basic differences between r and K selected species is apparent in his designation of K selected species as predators and r selected species as prey. The concepts of r and K selection are based on differences in parental investment and are applied at a species or population level; r selected species tend to be short lived and produce large batches of offspring all at once, K selected species tend to be longer lived and produce smaller numbers of offspring over a longer period of time. The author wants instead to apply r and K designations to different individuals within the same populations of the same species, and often appears to conflate numbers of offspring produced by members of a species with the total number of members of a species observed (more = prey), although this appears to be a deliberate distortion it is possible that Anonymous is simply ignorant of the established use of r and K selection. So many species violate Anonymous’ approach to classification,however, that it is difficult to understand how the author could have come to this conclusion.. Applying this principle would mean that elephants, giraffes, gorillas, many antelopes and other herbivores … etc etc etc which are K selected should be classified as predators. The author’s total lack of understanding of evolution is apparent in their use of the term de-evolution … there is no such thing, Evolution occurs when some genes become more prevalent because animals with those genes survive and reproduce better than others … it is a response to the environment organisms are exposed to, Whales lost their legs and gained flippers because it was advantageous for them to do so … if the oceans began to dry up legs could be selected for again! This is NOT de-evolution … simply an evolutionary response to a changing environment. The term de-evolution assumes there is a hierarchy of evolution with some species being ‘more evolved’ than others, and assumes that more complex is some how better. This is absurd. Sharks are more ‘primitive’ in their design than whales because their design was successful, once it evolved it did not require change. Are there any terms in the title I missed? … this is not a book about science. Science uses rules for collecting and presenting data to ensure that the information presented is valid. When you redefine the terms being used (e.g. r and K selection, evolution, etc) to fit your agenda you can no longer claim to be presenting science. ONE final comment. The author appears to be fond of attacking negative reviews by stating the reviewers are not using science …. but does not ONCE support ANY specific statement in their own book by directing the reader to a specific scientific reference that could be used to check the accuracy of the absurd conjectures presented. The author instead uses smoke and mirrors by listing a number of apparently relevant references to mask their ignorance (or deliberate misrepresentation) of the content of these references.

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You’ve forced me to think harder on this issue so thanks for that.

My understanding was that K-selected behaviours are an adaptation to an environment of scarce resources, which leads to complex organisms requiring adaptations such as longer parental care for offspring, and a slew of other complex behaviours.

I don’t know if Anonymous Conservative (AC) is implying that all K species are predators, but rather that K species adopt certain behaviours such as more characteristically “conservative” social behaviours (e.g., explicit dominance heirarchies, in-group preference, deeper attachments between members, etc.). I think he would agree that Rhinos, Elephants, and other herbivores that operate in complex groups and exhibit K behaviours can be classified as K selected species.

As you point out, Chimps and Bonobos are almost identical genetically and yet their behaviours are vastly different. The Bonobos as plant eaters have adapted to the vast amount of resources available to them, while Chimps need to maintain their strict social order to survive in an environment where catching their next meal requires greater constraints and behaviours as a group (e.g., hunting gangs and respect for social rank).

I suppose based on R/K selection theory, one might expect that the “R-selected Bonobos” would mate and reproduce very often, and yet they are on the endangered species list. I agree with you that they should be classified as K selected because they must care for their young, but I think it is interesting that they mate and use sex indiscriminately as they do. This behaviour reflects in my mind the fact that strict competition between males is simply not necessary because resources are abundant for them. They seem to be a species that is evolving in the direction towards R selection, but they are constrained due to having already become so complex that parental care remains necessary.

In either case, I still think R and K selection are useful concepts. The Bonobo/Chimp example seems to fit along the R/K spectrum fairly well, despite the fact that the Bonobos appear to be a unique case. Essentially, I disagree with you because I think you have mischaracterized Anonymous Conservative here in claiming that he equates predator species with K selected species, and your Bonobo/Chimp example only shows that R/K selection is better thought of as a spectrum with some species acting as exemplars reflecting common responses to patterns of selective pressures.

And also, I am not entirely convinced that the entirety of homo-sapiens cannot be broken down further into sub-species. There are some clear differences between the races, and sub-species in nature have been divided by scientists on even less substantive lines.

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Hi Clark Kent ! How are you !?

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haha good bro
so much has changed since the good’ol days of ROK a couple years ago eh? lol

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Indeed. Those were the great days to share opinions, ideas, suggestions and comments. Ironically, the Disqus platform is by MEN !

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Seriously tho fuck Disqus… bunch of faggots…
Those old ROK comment sections really were gold mines of real talk.

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Quite true. Hopefully ROK will find a similar Comment platform soon. Its nice to talk to you after a loooooong time !! Have a good day.

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You too man.
Glad someone recognized my avatar hehe.
Cheers.

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Anonymous Conservative has a section in their book that deals with this sort of criticism, though it is past the first few pages. It doesn’t matter what other people “meant” when they referred to r/K unless AC relies on those other people’s definitions instead of AC supplying their own.

So not only is it a complaint that AC didn’t use the definitions and framing “everyone else” uses, so AC is wrong, AC is also wrong for not citing the definitions and framing “everyone else” uses which happens to be wrong and considered pseudoscience? Talk about trying to have your cake and eat it too.

AC is quite open about how many of the criticisms of r/K stem from how loosely the terminology has been handled over the years, but you’d have had to actually read the book instead of playing with logical contradictions.

Anyway, parental investment is a result of adaptation to, not the cause for, resource shortages. The reason I phrase it that way is that not being the causal factor for K-selection viability, using it alone to distinguish between r/K would certainly be very silly.

That would be akin to saying that classifications of automobiles should be by their emissions or fuel efficiency alone. Petrol or diesel doesn’t matter, engine performance doesn’t matter, pickup or sports car doesn’t matter, any logically distinct causes for the behavior observed should not be used to properly categorize the behavior?

Of course that is absurd and provides no coherent mechanism for analysis.

This is also why Anti-Gnostic hopes you aren’t keen enough to notice they are also anonymous and yet attack AC’s credibility for being anonymous. An anonymous person with no apparent credentials saying another anonymous person with no apparent credentials has no credibility is rather self-defeating.

When people don’t want to discuss ideas, due to laziness or incompetence, they’ll instead try to discredit the need to discuss those ideas in the first place. Dialectic is not an effective tool against rhetoric, and vice-versa.

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I guess this is where people get a little jealous of those who isolate themselves in monasteries.

That aside, what I think is just as annoying is the opposite reaction from the neo-Puritans, and as a result, it often seems that society is pushing a completely conflicting and inconsistent message.

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Females WANT to sexually reject 80% of the males and WANT to sexually approve of 20% of the males. It’s not degeneracy, its what a parasitic matriarchial SOCIETY actually is.
Bygone successful ancestral brotherhoods sacrificed “sexual obsession” to form a masculine patriarchial SOCIETY.
Such a time will perhaps return when the millenial generation dies out.

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So European women want to have at leats 20% muslims in their countries!

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Are you assuming that all European women prefer Muslim men? Unlikely. (If you really believe that and you’re of European descent, your insecurities are showing. Most women find European men attractive.)

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All women prefer men from patriarchy (muslims).

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Nah.

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“Females WANT to sexually reject 80% of the males and WANT to sexually approve of 20% of the males. It’s not degeneracy, its what a reproductive matriarchial SOCIETY actually is.”

Actually, females WANT to sexually reject YOU, hence your temper tantrum here.

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“matriarchial” society !!?? what shit you are talking Jay !?

Ever heard about Father of GYNECOLOGY !? and you are talking about “matriarchial” society !!!

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Men of any worth feel the same way, and do not consider many women worthwhile, no matter if you can get women or not.

Those who don’t want to reject many women, simply have no personality nor taste at all.

It’s not about status, nor perceived worth, it’s about whether she matches you or not, also in sex.

It’s pathetic and idiotic to try to please everyone and be their fantasy, while you wont get any pleasure out of being fake.

THAT is why many women weed out, others are so beyond repair that they are like drug addicts and just seek higher and higher kicks.

You all sound so brainwashed, incredible.

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Yoga pants should be banned. It’s ridiculous that women think it’s ok to walk around with their pussies and asses sticking out. That shit is underwear. Put a dress or jeans on you fucking whores.

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Remind me how you’re different than any other leftwing SJW that wants shit banned because things aren’t going your way?

I’m sorry great looking women in yoga pants don’t want to fuck you. Doesn’t mean yoga pants should be banned you incel fuck.

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failed troll has failed

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Actually I succeeded. Beautifully. Witness how buttblasted your incel friend is below. Stay salty, my friend.

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still failed. try agian

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It was a figure of speech, dickhead. But the point stands – yoga pants are vulgar.

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Can’t be any more “vulgar” than all the hardcore butthole porn you’re addicted to, eh there incel?

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Only the ones your mom’s involved in. Hold up – I have a webcam coming up with her right now.

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Unsurprising a sick piece of shit like yourself would joke about banging someone’s mother. And you unironically have the nerve to be “offended” by women wearing “vulgar” yoga pants?

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I just “unironically” busted on her face, too.

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Don’t lie. You don’t bust anywhere except into your poor lonely incel gym socks.

Better write your congressman and get those big scary workout yoga panties banned you silly little incel!

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I have the feeling you’re a female. You certainly write like one. I would guess you’re fat and unattractive, as well.

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Couldn’t be any less overweight or attractive than an incel like yourself who nuts inside his little brother’s gym socks.

Bottom line is, you need to quit blaming your embarrassing sexual inadequacies on women and their yoga pants. Your life failures aren’t other people’s problems, they’re yours.

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For the record, I only nutted on your mom’s face and back.

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No wonder you can’t get a woman to fuck you. You’re still stuck at summer camp for bullied fat kids telling retarded yo mama jokes.

Grow up and maybe some 2/10 will let you see the inside of her yoga pants. That way you won’t have to cry like an incel bitch about it here.

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How do you think I met her? Your mom’s a counselor over here at Creampie Camp.

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^woman

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If your only argument is “woman”, you’ve lost the argument.

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If you say so, woman.

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Bye loser.

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If you say so, woman.

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Lol’s woman tell is her super pissy, hateful comments. Plus this:

“No wonder you can’t get a woman to fuck you.”

No man would say that. Women don’t “fuck” anyone. Women get fucked.

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Whatever happened to you to have such disgusting thoughts, I am sorry for you.

All that hate and prejudice is neither good for you nor your environment.

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You problem is that you have no notion of respect. It’s sexual harassment from women to expose their sexual attributes this openly, even if you are not interested in them nor find them attractive.
It’s public, and the same way you don’t shout, spit, or punch people, you don’t shove yourself in their faces, just to feel validated.
It’s immature behavior, especially when it’s regular. And even more ridiculous when you don’t feel ashamed for it.

For some reason nobody understand limits anymore, it’s not social just warrior or left or right wing or anything else. It’s something many have forgotten: basic human decency.

All has it’s place. When you want her or like her it’s different, but there is a place for that.

For some reason women think that this is a one way street. They can be vulgar, but don’t accept the same in return. Well, a lot actually like it as well, if you treat them that way, but you get the point.

And that desperate need to get validated by men who want to fuck you. Pathetic.

Grow up. If you get criticized, it’s not because everyone wants in your pants or is jealous. That’s like saying that people who call you out for spitting want to swallow your spit.

How can you be so full of yourself? Again: pathetic!

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And the only place flip-flops should be worn is the shower.

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or the beach. they shouldnt wear flip flops either. I’m not trolling I’m serious. Tired of women showing off nonstop. It’s fucking annoying.

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No, you’re trolling.

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Female swimming instructors at Ryerson University in Canada wear very skimpy one pieces that you can see the ass cheeks glowing like the sun, but these swimming lessons are only in the summer season for youth and elementary school students. Makes me wonder why would a feminist university which complains of harassment of women and male sexuality would show their butts to tots at your local swimming pool?
I will offer US$100 for any man in Toronto who will take a snapshot of that female swimming teacher in the coming summer. Reply here and I will talk to you later.

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But lets also put things into perspective. We also live in a most incredible time – with so much freedom, comfort, new technology. We could have also been born during the war where 18 year old boys were forced into battle and died. It is however bad out there for men no doubt.

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The only problem is with the “ungrateful” pussies. The Freedom, Comfort and new Technology are all because of MEN. And these pussies will never acknowledge that fact !

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I’ve had a theory for a long time that social media is designed to distract us from using the internet so we don’t actual use it for something that would enlighten us. The masses are too busy looking at cat videos to become a threat from the power of information. Ever wondered why there is so much free porn on the world wide wank?

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this is gold

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Roosh turned into a Pariah for only trying to meet with 40 men in an underground bunker in Canada.

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Completely agree, Rosh. I used to have this problem. I used to masturbate every day and was completely horny. Watched porn regularly although it was not an addiction.

For me, God did the trick. I went back to my Catholic roots and you learn to change your thought every time you receive a sexual stimulus (such as a thot showing her body). Prayer helps too. Now I haven’t masturbated in about a year and I don’t feel the need. Every time I see a thot is like a temporary sting that only lasts one second or so. But you must learn to control your thoughts and Catholic tradition helps you to do that (I think other spiritual traditions must do this too but I have no direct experience).

God sent me a very traditional girl 20 years my junior (of course, I don’t live in America) . We try to stay pure although sometimes we have failed. We are engaged and will marry very soon. She is one of a kind.

I am not evangelizing: I know that most of you don’t want to change your life or have any interest in religion. I am only telling my experience. As you American people say, your mileage may vary.

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There is nothing wrong with daily masturbation. God is not the solution, it’s just another drug.

You need to do things in your life besides seeking validation, or rewards, do meaningful things, work on something that seems to be your purpose.

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I explained my experience and I said it works for me (and maybe for others too) and it won’t work for everybody. As I said, your mileage may vary.

On the contrary, you start preaching telling what to do and what not to do to other people that you don’t even know (God is a drug. Don’t do it. Do meaning things and something that seems to be your purpose – as if God couldn’t be those things).

“It’s amazing how many simpletons are on these sites. Amazing!”

“What’s up with all the pussies on here who are so obsessed with aging.”

You need to be more humble and less arrogant, as if you own the truth and everybody else is wrong. You seem the preachers of yesteryear.

People who are successful and valued in real life don’t need to waste time to come here to pretend they are the mega-man that should be admired by everybody. Successful people don’t treat others like a shit, only losers and wannabes do it. I guess you are a loser that masturbates every day because you don’t have a real relationship and comes here to try to improve your low self-esteem being rude to strangers in a 4-month-old thread. This goes beyond pathetic and you should get a life.

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You forgot to finish the article by “The End”…

Is this the End of Rooshv? I respect you for the guts you have had to represent Neo-masculinity in these times of pro-feminism years. Your writing skills are also deep and smart, for writing meaningful and “from the heart” articles. But these past 2 years you’ve been going down the negative path, age being most probably the main factor, as you admit yourself. Real gamers in the community have started to desert the forum since you appear to have lost the “essential skills” of a PUA and the essence of what your readers are asking. This recent negativity and attitude clearly appears to me those of a worn out man, probably due to lack to testosterone induced by age… And this is normal at nearly 40 y/o, mid-life crisis seems to be kicking in. You are about to divert to more physiological subjects, which you are good at I must admit, and I will probably continue reading you since I appreciate philosophical subjects as well. However, not the newbies looking for pussy wot be happy with this. this lack of balls you are portraying in your articles and in your new lifestyle discredits you from what your whole popularity has been built on: Game and PUA lifestyle.

The end???

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It’s more like the beginning.

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Well, I hate to admit but looking at the big picture, the Muslims got it right. They put their women in line so they have that taken care of. The West need to adapt, perhaps take a page from the book that the Mormons and the Amish use. You don’t see them struggle with this sort of problem. And both societies are thriving in America right now.

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Muslims got it right on a very short term basis, by mistrusting their own brothers.
The more long term solution is to trust your fellow men to overcome their own “sexual obsession” through discipline.

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“They put their women in line so they have that taken care of. The West need to adapt, perhaps take a page from the book that the Mormons and the Amish use.”

No, the West need not adapt nor adopt the ways of the Muslim when it comes to handling their women folk. Western men and women have the freedom to make their own choices.

Besides, how do you propose to put forth this plan in our current society? Have you even thought it through?

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How’s that freedom going for western women now?

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Fantastic.

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Including women have their freedom to open their legs to anyone and everyone and call it empowerment. Fantastic indeed.

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The freedom to do so, yes. But the will to actually go through with it? Not necessarily.

Stop your whining.

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Just look at the statistic. Single moms are glorified. Children are suffering because of that. Your women now are nothing but a cum bucket.

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I get it, you are angry because you get rejected repeatedly by women. Buy Gorilla Mindset, it will change your life!

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Lol.
You are so original. Never heard that mockery before. I’m so burned. Roasted. Big time.

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I get it, you are angry because you get rejected repeatedly by women. Buy Gorilla Mindset, it will change your life!

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Marriage, coverture, social shaming, and various other methods were used by Westerners for most of history to maintain functional relationships between men and women for the good of society at large. We can take inspiration from Muslims, but I think it’s better if we just take inspiration from our own history.

Every advanced culture on Earth has employed these kinds of practices because it leads to accumulated benefits for society over time. Societies with no ability to work towards improved future conditions by controlling immediate impulsive desires will never see significant improvement (e.g., non-colonized Africa).

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No, you don’t need shaming or other manipulative tactics.

You need boundaries and respect, and have parents teach that again, instead of excusing themselves by lame replies like “they are kiddssss!!!!”.

It has been common to degrade and belittle people, everywhere in media, and not in a good hearted way, but in a mean destructive one.

With purpose and respect a lot gets better. It’s simply basic human decency.

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The Muslims have nothing right. Its the type of religion you get when you have gamma males in control. And the child rape…its absolutely endemic within that religion and the countries who practice it. Its an utterly worthless religion that should have been left in the ash bin of history. Unfortunately it continues to plague this earth like a recurring bout of jock itch.

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No need to look to Islam. We only have to look at our own past, circa 150 or so years ago.

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No, they haven’t figured it out. So many Muslim women cheat on their men, and love doing it with white guys. They also can be very controlling in the family. Muslim men just act “big” in public.

The real issue is that people have no more goals and purpose in life, there are too many conflicts, and drugs and other distractions keep people from changing.

It’s not about ideologies, it’s about having a purpose and feeling useful, healthy, respected. But not many care, and so this vicious circle of seeking validation or status increases.

Once more people do what is meaningful and they get respected, all the rest comes naturally and things get more balanced.

Ads and other influencers however work against the feeling of self-worth.

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Well said Roosh. I’m exhausted as well. I’m on the verge of losing my girlfriend to her desire to “further her career and meet new people” as oppose to realizing what she has and build a family. I don’t want to go back to game, I’ve done it, it was fun in my twenties but hitting 30 it’s different. This society is so corrosive. Your writing keeps my sane brother. I thank you.

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do yourself and your mental health a favor and leave her ass.

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Get out and travel a bit. Game is our toolkit for the rest of our lives. It will be decades before appreciative american women reappear on the scene.

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Women now marry the state: “her career”, meet new people.

The state, the biggest procurer.

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Your problem is not your age or that you are hitting 30s. You are thinking in stereotypes, which is one of your problems.

You need to get in touch with other people, that’s it.

When you feel young, it’s because you feel right.

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If you work in a predominately male environment, doing a job thats both physically and mentally demanding it will do wonders for helping to dull the obsession for sex. Even better if you occupation is a calling of sorts,you’re self employed and you’ve got a traditional wife at home. As a society, men in particular , have moved so far away from work that brings meaning and value to society. That and much of the work requires little physical activity and is very far removed from the land and its natural cycles. It’s had a horrible corrosive effect on us as a species.
Im married to a traditional wife and work as a forester. At the end of most days, Im too fatigued to really be that horny. Its a satisfied fatigue however. I think under normal circumstances a good shag 2-3 times a week is normal. Anymore and its becoming a man’s main focus – at the expense of all of the other rich things that life has to offer.

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Have kids, man. That’s the only way I see you getting out of this rut you’re in.

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What a simpleton reply. Getting kids gets many people in a rut in the first place, especially if they think kids are a salvation.

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Bah.

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Bah.

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Thing is, we simpletons with families usually end up happier than you sophisticated genetic dead ends. If you don’t believe me, volunteer in a rest home some time. Even the ones whose kids don’t visit much at least have some hope from the fact they have family out there, somewhere.

I’ve been following Roosh for years. He’s progressed a lot, and I get the strong impression that he’d be better off with kids.

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It really is finally starting to get to you, ain’t it?

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Women dress more modestly in Asia, on average. When I see young Western women here a high percentage of them show lots of skin. The first word that comes to mind, involuntarily, is “whore.” I can only imagine what the Muslims think of our women.

Although I think Islam goes to far in controlling sex, there is a lot to be said for not having sex coming at you from all angles all the time. Western culture used to be like that. When I was a kid there were a lot of rules about “skirts below the knee” and modest clothing for girls.

Now high school girls, administrators and their parents blame boys for looking at girls who are showing off their bodies for attention in school. They come down like a ton of bricks on any teacher or principal who bans yoga pants or short shorts — “oh dear, slut shaming!” It’s very unhealthy.

This cannot continue forever.

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Islam is hypocrisy….Ever went to Saudi or Dubai? THEY WILL FORCE ON YOU, A MALE, to follow Sharia law, but for Western females, they can pose nude at special beaches, and men who get reported for harassment are punished under sharia law.

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It’s probably because they take those females as their whores. Whores are whores. Whores don’t follow Sharia law. Or any law for that matter. They will never let their own women expose their skin like those females.

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We played the game, but the game played us. We looked into the abyss while the abyss was staring back at us. We spent a lot of time to figure it out. Game has taken its toll on us; we lost what it takes to fall in love. We know too much, and the mystery is gone..

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Love is a product sold to women in books, movies, and music. Fear and respect kept marriage together for millenia. Love is a new invention and since its an emotion, it will fade and people will move elsewhere to look for it.

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Love is real (emotionally, spiritually and physically) but it doesn’t hold relationships together. Social structures and honest people do that. Many people “love” each other and still cheat. Its just not enough

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If anyone wants to experience what life is like with sex completely removed, just take opioids for a week or two. On the one hand, things are simplified. At the same time, although all physical desire for sex is gone and one is free to let the mind be absorbed in other things, I can´t help but feel that something is missing. At the end of the day, I´d rather have some sexual desire, even with the irritations it can cause, then have none at all. Disclaimer: heroin is bad!!

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Is DXM cough syrup an opiate? I’ve sold some of these from the States to at least 50 men living in the Greater Toronto Area in Canada. You need a prescription to get the pure DXM codeine syrup, and the OTC ones have sugar and other harmful ingredients which can cause very adverse side effects if ingested.

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DXM, though it looks structurally like it could be an opioid, does not bind to any type of opioid receptor in the brain (at least in humans). It´s mostly an NMDA-antagonist like PCP or ketamine. DXM can be a fun psychedelic and can work as an antidepressant, but it doesn´t repress your sex drive. Codeine will however diminish your libido.

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Join Amish cult

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I find this quite ironic because while reading this, the website gives me popup ads on how to get laid. The message is good, but contextually it needs some work.

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You have the propensity to say this because you’ve banged so many women that you’ve become tired of it. Sex is the means to validate your masculinity, and you have already proven yourself so there is no need to prove any further. However that is not the case for most men out there, especially men from third world countries who are not living comfortable lives and every day survival is a struggle. They suffer from both financial problems and sexual frustration, unlike rich white folks from the first world who can embark on global sex adventures fucking women in different countries to find the “purpose in life”. Sex may not lead to a meaningful life, but without it life is certainly doomed to frustration.

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Sex is a need, just like food. Both have become obsessions for some people, sure. They were never intended to be our religion or guiding light, or provide us with inner peace. “Game” is addicting for us western men because of a few reasons.

1. Our women have pulled back. The avg american couple only has sex 2 times per month. Greece and Brazil couples do it 15x per month.

2. Divorce rates and female slanted domestic laws make us want to be single.

3. Advertising, bars, clubs, gyms, restaurants, and social media shove it in our faces all day. Theyre all trying to make money on our sex drive.

How do we win? You can castrate yourself. You can go extreme mgtow. You can roll the dice with marriage, or a long term girlfriend ( but she’ll eventually probably stop being sexual.). You can fuck hookers.

Or you can accept the current situation, practice your PUA maybe once per week, and pat yourself on the back for not wasting $100k or 10 years of your life on a divorce.

The bigger problem with Roosh’s melancholic blogs nowadays is he keeps mentioning “love.” Relationships were arranged for thousands of years. Finding ” love” is relatively new, and with it comes the tragedy of heartbreak, endless optimization, and feelings of defeatedness.

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This Puritan neo-Victorian Anglo culture is sexually repressive, but why does the feminist and LGBT movement endorse SJWs to pose naked in front of children at Slut Walks and Gay Prides if they are repressive against heterosexuality?

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“Relationships were arranged for thousands of years.”

And, today, people have the liberty of choosing their mates. Women haven’t pulled back, nor are divorce laws designed to make men single, nor are various social places trying to make coin at your expense.

You are engaging in gamma virtue signaling.

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“And, today, people have the liberty of choosing their mates.” And it doesnt work. Love is a product sold to women. No reason for men to expect that it’s real. Treat it like a business decision again, and it will last. (just based on history.)

“nor are divorce laws designed to make men single.” They are designed to benefit women, which incentivizes women to choose divorce instead of working on the relationship. 80% of divorces are filed by women. Great work.

“nor are various social places trying to make coin at your expense.” Research shows over 90% of men at clubs are hoping to meet a woman. Bar owners hire hot, scantily clad girls as bartenders to attract the men. The whole business model is meant to make money off of men if you put those two facts together.

” gamma virtue signaling.” Not sure what that is. BRB reading my red-pill glossary

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“And it doesnt work. Love is a product sold to women. No reason for men to expect that it’s real.”

Of course it works, since love is not a product. And assuredly men (and women) today have experienced it as real and genuine.

“Treat it like a business decision again, and it will last. (just based on history.)”

That’s not reality.

“They are designed to benefit women, which incentivizes women to choose divorce instead of working on the relationship. 80% of divorces are filed by women. Great work.”

No, they are designed to enable men and women, unfortunately, to at times take the easy way out, and, fortunately, to at times get out of a bad situation.

“Research shows over 90% of men at clubs are hoping to meet a woman.”

Perhaps you found a research study that had this statistic. Congratulations. In reality, men and women go to clubs to meet the opposite sex, to people watch, to dance, and to enjoy themselves.

“The whole business model is meant to make money off of men if you put those two facts together.”

No, the business model is to make money off of patrons, and preferably attractive ones.

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Or you can go gay.

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The obsession is for validation, not sex. Roosh didn’t go off on his world tour because he wanted sex. He could have gotten all the orgasms he wanted by masturbating, he could have gotten all the pussy he wanted by simply lowering standards, he could have gotten all the HB9 pussy he wanted by earning some money then taking periodic trips to places where HB9 hookers are not too expensive, etc. What Roosh wanted was same as what all the other PUAs want: validation by women, validation by other men, validation by his own conscience (internalized version of validation by other men and by women). Validation is a variation on fame, which boils down to basing your happiness on what other people think about you. Those who purse any form of fame are doomed to misery.

The path I recommend is for Roosh (and other PUA’s) is to give up all forms of sex other than masturbation and sex with hookers and/or fatties, because these are forms of sex that give no validation. Deny your craving for validation and the craving will die and then you will be at peace.

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“The path I recommend is for Roosh (and other PUA’s) is to give up all forms of sex other than masturbation and sex with hookers and/or fatties, because these are forms of sex that give no validation.”

Who are you trying to clown?

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As I get older, I long to have sex not necessarily more often but just to have it period. We need a community health agenda that allows for sex to be available to us affordably though our healthcare providers and be legal. Sex surrogacy of some type but for regular access: http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2260-f23ck21ng-people-therapy-inside-sexual-surrogacy.html
May help a lot of people with social/mental disorders

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“As I get older, I long to have sex not necessarily more often but just to have it period, and it be of good quality.”

Get married. Have children. Move the needle forward for the sake of Western Civilization.

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I’m sorry, but didn’t mention that I have already achieved those goals (marriage and children), no, I would rather enjoy sex at this point in my life but not have more offspring or care about moving any particular needle for civilization sake. Social sexcare is a worthy agenda to be pushed in this country.

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“Social sexcare is a worthy agenda to be pushed in this country.”

That would be dysgenic.

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Yet you continue to profit from your books, teaching men how to get laid – you’re even currently working on a new one. I’m not a hater, and I even agree with the sentiment in this post, but the hypocrisy is there.

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The obsession is so bad that men attach their self-worth to how successful they are at getting laid, and men that can’t get laid, despite having all their material needs met, snap and reign havok on society (see: Elliot Rogers or anyone else who has committed violence over their idea of what they think they should be getting from women).

You make a good point about women using this obsession for validation. They’ve taken so much emotional abuse from men who have “hacked” their primal tendencies that every time I get involved with one of them I feel like I am stepping into an emotional snake pit. The emotional and spiritual price one must pay, even for a female companion, has increased significanly in the last few years.

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“The emotional and spiritual price one must pay, even for a female companion, has increased significanly in the last few years.”

You are overselling it here. In reality, it’s not as bad as you think.

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I think that’s all relative to the individual. If I’m making plans with one of my buddies and they flake on me 50% of the time, I drop them because it’s kind of weird. Even with females that -initiate- something with me, they flake at about that rate and think nothing of it. Then when you spend hours getting to know them, they ghost or it goes nowhere, and there goes 12 hours I could have been focusing on my business or health with nothing to show for it. Maybe it results in a lay, maybe not. But THAT, to me, is too steep of a price.

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It’s in our DNA, both men and women, to seek out sex, and procreate. Democracy, freedom, Capitalism, it’s all enabling of this. We are programmed by the media, sure. But we’re also reading philosophy, great literature, seeking deeper answers to life’s meaning.

Personally, I’ve had enough sex. I wrote books about it. I don’t really care. It’s a stage you go through, or you don’t. When I walk my neighbourhood I don’t see a world of fornication obsessed men. It’s still a small community the guys who go online to learn how to pickup women. It’s a problem they want to solve. Maybe some are obsessed with sex, and others want a girlfriend, or a wife.

Many men like my little Brothers are with their highschool sweethearts. They think my job is cool, but they’re not helpless betas, and they’re not sex obsessed Chads either. Some men just want the experience. I don’t regret all the sex with beautiful women I’ve had. And I don’t blame women for advertising their attractiveness online. Maybe that’s the experience they wanted, and hopefully they learn something from it.

My purpose for now is to write books. It gives me meaning. To ask, answer and solve problems.

Life is suffering and pointless. Deal with it! Laugh it off.

If you don’t want to write about sex and sex culture, write about something else. At least you have that luxury. I don’t!

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“Personally, I’ve had enough sex. I wrote books about it. I don’t really care. It’s a stage you go through, or you don’t.”

What books?

“It’s in our DNA, both men and women, to seek out sex, and procreate.”

Procreate, as in have offspring. How many white children are you father to?

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The chickens have come home to roosh……hahahahahah
Remember your own adage : Free Sex is Not Free

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Yeah man I know what you mean. I get less emotional enjoyment with each notch. It would be nice to have a real connection with a woman but they become less interesting by the day with each new Instagram story. Even many of the ones who are intelligent and have some substance degrade themselves with their ever increasing self absorption. It’s depressing but I’m not willing to give up.

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“I get less emotional enjoyment with each notch. It would be nice to have a real connection with a woman but they become less interesting by the day with each new Instagram story.”

You do realize the irony here–you bragging about your notch count, and then feeling less of a connection to a woman because of your own accounts.

Perhaps reexamining your own purpose in life would do you wonders.

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Why are you saying that?

Only recently I read your books and for the first time in my life tried night game. But you as the writer of the books wanted to stop going on a bang mission.

Man don’t retire early, we still need you! If you finally released your new game book I will purchase and read it.

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its part of roosh’s evolution. and many guys who go thru game and experience tons of success end up feeling the same way. its a dead end. but you have to go thru the process first.

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Hmm.. well put. This could even have been an article on a mainstream magazine that points to objectification & puritanism, because from whichever angle or side you look at it, thats whats happening.

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Back then men just took women none of this nonsense of today… Men fooked up letting that change…

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In a gynocentric society rooted in feminism what else would the message be. Sex is all women have and it shows. The feminine women that nurtures and cares is a male standard. The only feminine way a woman today is capable of is sexual and even that half the time comes off as slut signaling. No woman desires to be a wife but those same women what a husband. gynocentrism rules and sex is what is on offer for men.

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“In a gynocentric society rooted in feminism what else would the message be. Sex is all women have and it shows.”

Except we do not live in a gynocentric society.

“The feminine women that nurtures and cares is a male standard.”

Actually, that is a human standard.

“The only feminine way a woman today is capable of is sexual and even that half the time comes off as slut signaling.”

Not really.

“No woman desires to be a wife but those same women what a husband.”

Actually, women today generally desire to be a wife, so they seek a husband.

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Sailed over your head

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No, I got it. You are peddling Fake News and were summarily busted.

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Wow. It’s about time this was said. Right now I am in survivor mode. Sex was never my priority. Watching porn is a waste of time. Go out and interact with real people.

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Sir, that is because happiness comes from the pursuit of something, not from the achievement of it.

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After traveling the world for over a decade, learning about evolutionary psychology, and reading sites like yours I have come to conclude that there is no “perfect” woman. She exists only in our minds. Of course, I’ve always known that nobody is perfect but I finally understand what it really means. Woman will be woman regardless of where she comes from.

Although this was a bitter pill to swallow, I’ve learned to accept it for what it is (and use it to my advantage). Women will always be a part of my world but they will never be a part of my mission (even if children are involved one day).

I live at peace knowing that I have only myself to count on. Funny thing is, when I stopped prioritizing women and started focusing on my own selfish needs, they started dropping like flies around me.

It’s true what they say, “women are the dessert, not the main course”